Nick asks, “May I ask you, what business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature or functionality is more valuable for you?”
I use four business messaging platforms in the work I do:
- Slack for my company and many others
- Watson Workspace for my work with IBM
- LinkedIn Messages for outreach
- Facebook Messenger as a last resort
In terms of usage, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack. Having everyone in the same place and deep integrations is essential; I’ve wired my CRM to Slack, my marketing automation to Slack, my eCommerce gateways to Slack. Brand24, my media monitoring service, integrates into Slack. Every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification in Slack. When you make a purchase digitally, I see it in Slack. I run Hubspot’s Growthbot in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers. When you mention me on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, a blog, a news article, etc., I see it in Slack. With its new push integrations, Slack now works with my article archiving service, which means that I can streamline my newsletter creation process.
Watson Workspace is an interesting take on Slack, bringing the power of IBM Watson’s AI to a Slack-like environment, but without the literally hundreds of connections to third-party systems, I don’t see transitioning out of Slack any time soon. Like so many other software ecosystems, it’s really the application platform that matters the most – for example, I’d have to rewire literally dozens of forms on my websites to migrate from Slack.
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In today’s you ask I answer Nick asks, What business messenger or collaboration tool do you use? What feature functionality is most valuable to you?
That’s a great question. I actually use four different business messaging tools slack for my company. And for many others, I participate in probably 15 or 16 different slack instances on a day to day basis. Most of them my company,
Watson workspace, which is IBM to take on slack for my work with IBM LinkedIn messages for outreach specifically for prospect outreach. In fact, Nick was actually asked me this question on LinkedIn and Facebook Messenger as a last resort, particularly for people who I have developed a business relationship with because it’s easy to message them and know that your message got there. It’s circumvented.
You’re the corporate firewalls and spam buckets and things like that. Now, in terms of usage, in terms of what I do, I spend the vast majority of my time in Slack, having everyone in the same place. And deep integration is essential. That’s really where I find that slack does a better job than the competitors that are out there. I’ve wired my CRM to slack for my marketing automation to slack. My e commerce gateways are required to slack brow brand 24 by media monitoring services integrated and slack. So what that means is that because it’s a messaging service, it’s effectively sending notifications in one place where I can see them and not like overwhelmingly cluttering my screen with pop up some bells and whistles stuff. There’s I have channels setup for my different types of notifications, and everything has its place in a nice, neat, orderly structure. So every time you fill out a form on one of my sites, I see it as a notification and inshallah on slack it’s a little form fill.
Which is has all the contents of the the forum. Phil I could see you know who did what when you subscribe to the newsletter
I see that in slack when you make a purchase digitally, I see it in slack. My payment gateway system is tied to slack. So when you buy a book or when you purchase a table for for consultation from Trust Insights, I see that right and slack I run hub spots growth bought in Slack, which is an essential tool for mining data about customers and prospective customers one of my favorites Dharma shock rated it where you have a little bot in slacking a chat with it you say
growth bought Tell me about cnn dot com and I’ll tell you all the data that it knows like the annual revenue number of employees things like that super helpful for having that little bit of business intelligence right inside the workspace tool that you’re in anyways when you message me or when you mentioned me on on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and blogs, news articles, which I thank you
Very much for the people who are constantly mentioning the work that I do with Trust Insights, I see it and slack brand 2014 pops a little notification in our coverage channel. And, and the, hey, here’s another article about this or you were mentioned in this article on stuff which is really terrific
when slack made its new integrations allow applications to push to it more easily. And now works with my arc. The article archiving service I use, I use pocket and I use feed Lee. And so when someone shares a link in Slack, I can say that straight to my pocket, which is really important because I use pocket as a repository for all the links that I read or scan or check out during the week and that makes it of course in June, my newsletter on the weekend. So having those links being able to participate in all these different slack communities and start feeding interesting articles in is yet another way where I can I can streamline the newsletter creation process while still maintaining high quality.
Because obviously I try not to participate in conversations with people who are not smarter than I am. And so all the slacks that I participate in them
fantastic that you know, there’s so many talented smart people experts in what they do. And when they share a piece of content, sure enough, let me make sure I read it and and consume it and save it for later and then share it into
into my newsletter for everyone else to benefit from that expertise as well. Watson workspace is an interesting take on Slack, it’s IBM
sort of collaboration space, and it brings the power of Watson’s AI to a slack like environment. You may have just seen the news, Watson won a debate Ralph held its own in a conversational debate.
But as with so many slack competitors,
if if the environment doesn’t have all those dozens or hundreds of integrations to all these third party systems, it’s
I don’t see transitioning out of slack anytime soon, unless they do something egregious with their product. Because like so many other software ecosystem, it’s the application platform. But third party platform that matters the most. It’s why Apple’s iOS system is still such a strategic advantage for the platform. I mean, you think about the iPhone is not like some magical piece of hardware. It’s substantially better than every single
other smartphone app. It’s cool features. But from a hardware perspective, it’s no different than an Android phone from Samsung, or HTC or whatever. What makes it different is the ecosystem the lock in that a vendor creates by saying, like, yeah, you bought all these apps, if you leave the system, you spend all that money for nothing. And yeah, so a lot of them are free apps. You can find equivalents on other platforms. But there’s a reason why it works like that. Just like when people bought Windows Windows. The operating system has all these applications that are not available for on the Mac or Linux or other
systems. And so it’s that locking. That’s what slack has successfully done. I think better than any of the other collaboration tools is is really nailed Hey, we’re going to let every system connect with us. And we’re going to put a huge pile of connectors out there and other vendors because they see the adoption of the uptake have built their their integrations to slack and it makes it so difficult to leave. Like in my personal website I’ve got all my web forms now with I use Gravity Forms a WordPress plugin that connects right just like I would have to go in and rewire dozens of forms on my website in order to migrate from Zach and that’s only if Gravity Forms provided an integration into a Watson workspace or HipChat or or you know any of these other vendors
which I don’t see them doing anytime soon they they’ve gone with the market leader and that convenience of being able to have my stuff one click install on my WordPress website and boom
go right into slack or right into the, um, all these different places is, is really helpful. So
features and functionality is is less important than application ecosystem and platform development. It is
from a software perspective, the ability for us to add in lots and lots of extensions and add ons, and packages, and plugins and things to make every environment just like we want it. There’s no software developer that can put every single feature imaginable in a plat in a product. And you probably don’t want to I mean, if you look around at like Microsoft Word Look, I’m sorry that nobody uses right?
There’s like one law firm that uses that very specifically feature and that’s it. Now, granted, they aren’t they probably a very good customer, but nobody else uses that one tiny little weird annotation feature.
And so by having that robust third party environment, everybody can build essentially their own slack with the base platform and then all the ads
Didn’t go into it. And that’s true for all the software companies for all these software platforms, the most successful ones, embrace the third party ecosystem. And don’t try to do everything out of the box themselves. If you are marketing your own stuff, think about that. From that perspective, what do you bring to the table what’s your core offering and then how extensible is your offering to other things and it’s not just you know, software even something like a kitchen mixer look at the Kitchen Aid line part of the reason they’re blend their their mixes are so successful is because you can pretty much attached like a lawn mower to them
and and make it work so,
so think about that extends ability as a core feature in your own marketing. Great question, Nick. Hope it was the answer was helpful to you as you embark on your own
messaging and collaboration adventures. As always, if you have questions or comments, please leave them in the comments here or the link below and please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. Talk to you soon. Take care
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