You Ask, I Answer: Establishing Marketing Key Performance Indicators

Magdalena asks, “From your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?”

It depends. What is the goal of your marketing? That’s what the key performance indicator is. I define KPI as, if this number goes to zero (or the maximum bad state), you get fired. So for every company, and every practitioner, that number will be different. For every industry, it will be different. For every company size, it will be different.

The important thing is that a KPI has to have business impact. It has to, in some way, turn into dollars – and the closer it is to actual dollars, the more meaningful it is.

Something that marketers should do as soon as possible is a multiple regression on all their marketing metrics, with their KPI as a target. Watch the detail for full answers about how to convert organizational KPIs into personal KPIs for everyone on your team.

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In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, from your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?

Well, it depends

what is the goal of marketing? What is the goal of your marketing because that’s what your key performance indicators going to be. And it’s going to be wildly different. Depending on your company, your industry, the company’s size, how you do business, and even very down to the practitioner down to the individual person, the marketing coordinator, just KPI is going to be very different than the CMOS KPIs as they should be.

I think it’s important to define what a KPI is my definition that he uses if this number goes to zero, or whatever the maximum bad state is, but it is number goes to zero. You got fired, right? So the marketing coordinator at say, a massive fortune five company

their personal KPI may actually be like yeah, you gotta guess more Instagram followers. And if you don’t, you’re fired, right? So that there’s a personal KPI there that that indicates whether that person is performing well or not. However, at a business level, at an organizational level, a KPI needs to have business impact. It needs to be it has to, in some way, turn into dollars. The only exception to this is when you have an outcome that is a non dollar outcome that your company or your organization is going after. And really the only non dollar outcome because even nonprofits for example, have things like donations and corporate donors and stuff like that to pay to keep the lights on the the only non dollar tangible outcome I can think of in as an example would be a politician seeking election where there’s a measurable outcome elected or not elected, but it is not a financial outcome. At least the election isn’t

Is our collection isn’t Sorry, it’s maybe a little cynical.

But in order for everyone else will have KPIs that are that have to turn into dollars. And the closer that your KPI is 2, the more meaningful it is, and the more valuable it is to your organization. So, for example, let’s take a in the b2b marketing world

website traffic is pretty far away from dollars, right? It’s, you know, you got a whole bunch of stages, you know, some of the sales pipeline, they got like 44 stages in their CRM website traffic way on the end, and so it’s it’s really far away from dollars. On the other hand,

if you were a super clever marketer and you’re using AI chat bots and all these crazy new technologies, and you could reliably deliver sales qualified leads or even real opportunities to your sales team. Guess what, that is a

Very close to dollars. And so your performance as a marketer would be

much more closely watched, but also much more valuable to the organization because you are delivering as close to dollars as you can get within your role. And so when you’re, we’re trying to decide what indicators to use for performance and marketing. The closer we are to dollars, the better. The same is true in any other industry. If you are

if you’re working in b2c

in retail, the closer you can get to know someone taking an idol off the rack and putting other register the better so if you are doing you know, end cap performance or in store walk ins and things those are much more valuable than say brand awareness that’s not to say that brand when there’s isn’t an important but it is part of the chain of evidence that gets you to take the item, put it on the register and and have the person checkout so that those KPIs need to be as close to dollars as possible. Now,

you say welcome.

Not everybody in the organization, whatever can have, you know the register checkouts or mortgage applications or or car sales or oil wells drilled as as their KPI that is true so what you need to do in order to get to get to take the business KPI and decomposes you need to do what in statistics was called multiple linear regression a multiple regression

you’re going to take your KPIs laid out on a giant spreadsheet bought as with as as fine a resolutions you can get so maybe its monthly day a cool weekly did a better daily data great and then you’re going to take all your KPIs they’re going to be columns in the spreadsheet and then you take all your other metrics so social media followers mentions brand awareness clicks on ads

newspaper articles, press releases sent out that day to talk shows that your your executives were on all that stuff everything you could possibly lay out

into a spreadsheet that has a nonzero value.

And then you’re going to run this statistical tests this multiple regression to figure out what combinations of variables have a strongest statistical relationship to your KPI. So it might be like, okay, with a number of Instagram comments, plus clicks on a pay per click ads, plus

talk shows plus articles in our trade magazine plus number of conversations at conferences equals it has a strongest mathematical relationship to to sales or sales qualified leads or or store walk ins. Once you’ve done that math, you established correlation. And then the next step is to do testing and you say, okay, for whatever reason, Instagram comments plus

videos on YouTube seem to have the strongest relationship. So let’s double the amount of work that we do on those variables and see

If leads increases proportionally. So if we double the amount of YouTube videos that do well, and we double the amount of Instagram comments we get do leads also double,

and that’s your test causality. Once you’ve tested causality, and you’ve established that, yes, this mathematical relationship is because these variables, cause the KPI. Now you have the ability to take those variables that you know cause the KPI and assign them to people like a Social Media Manager instead of followers on Instagram. Turns out that doesn’t have a mathematical relationship or causal relationship with leads, but comments containing the word great, do so make stuff that people comment, that’s a great, that’s your new KPI. Hey, pay per click management

and now CPA around25 and click through rate above 10%. That’s your new KPI. And so you can decompose based on all of the metrics you have. You can decompose your business KPIs into individual KPIs, and everybody now knows what to focus on. And that’s so

valuable because it means that instead of having to try and do everything, you focus on the stuff that is mathematically working 80% of the time, and then you leave 20% of your time and efforts to experiment with new stuff to always be testing and trying out new things. But if you do that, you’ll waste a lot less money, you’ll waste a lot less time trying to measure and do everything, you focus only on the things that you mathematically proven first, through correlation, then through testing and calls out to establish causality that works that generates the business outcomes that you’re looking for. Now that math is not necessarily easy, but it works because you’re you’re using the scientific method you are proving that what you’ve done will have a a real business outcome that is measured in dollars or as close to dollars as you are allowed to get in within your role so well, great question. The main indicators of performance and marketing or whatever is working to generate the

Business outcome. Great question. This is also a part of the series for brand 24. So you’ll see this on the brand 24 website as well. If you have questions for you ask answer or for any of the the podcasts and blogs and stuff that that I do for myself and for Trust Insights, please leave it in the comments. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and we’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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