You Ask, I Answer: Communicating Marketing Results to Non-Marketers?

Allie asks, “Do you have any tips for sharing marketing results like social media and email marketing analytics to a non-tech-savvy staff?”

Most staff in an organization aren’t going to be interested in marketing results unless they work in marketing. Instead, they’re going to want organizational results, so connecting the dots between marketing’s outcomes and results the organization cares about is essential.

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In today’s episode, Ellie asks, do you have any tips for sharing marketing results like social media and email marketing analytics to a non tech savvy staff? Well, here’s the thing.

Does anyone care? Most staff in an organization are not going to be interested in marketing results unless they work in the marketing department because they’ve got other stuff that they’re doing and to a non marketing person’s not going to be clear, what marketing does that helps them with their job right or that helps the organization overall succeed.

People want to look at organizational results, what has happened that benefits the organization overall, or what is marketing doing that is making their life easier.

So if you have somebody in finance, for example, what is what is marketing doing to impact finance in a positive way? If it’s things donations or revenue or e commerce sales or leads or something, the biggest challenge for all of us is to communicate results.

That means something to the person we’re talking to.

One of the, one of the complications we run into a lot is that we care as we should, very much about the work that we’re doing, and the results we’re getting.

That’s a good thing we want we want to care about our jobs, right? That’s generally accepted as a wonderful thing.

But nobody else does.

And it’s not their job to it’s not their role to understand how it roll or what we deliver to the organization.

And so, we have to figure out how to transform what our results are into language that means something to them.

And that means, particularly when it comes to things like marketing technology, that instead of looking for a technological solution, we have to look for a a human communication solution.

What is that The thing that that person cares about.

That may mean doing a formal exercise like KPI mapping, for example.

Or it may just mean talking with that person and trying to understand what it is that they need.

There’s a concept of user stories that my friend and business partner Katie Robbert talks about a lot, which is sort of the who, what, why, as a CFO, I need information about marketing, to understand marketing’s performance, right.

And being able to write out what it is that each person needs from marketing will greatly help out understanding those what to communicate from from the marketing activities that we’re doing.

Social media, email marketing results, things like that people probably don’t care unless they need something to impress the board of directors with on the assumption that the Board of Directors doesn’t really know or care about those homiletics either.

So what do you have, that somebody else is going to care about? If you have VP of sales, then something like lead generation be very interesting to the VP of Sales like, yeah, I need to feed my sales crew.

I need more leads better leads.

The old Glengarry Glen Ross says the leads are weak.

I mean, I mean better leads, being able to explain to them how you judge lead quality and things like that to somebody in HR.

What is marketing doing to communicate things like open positions and stuff? And how have you helped feed that particular part of the website? So it’s less a question of marketing technology and more question of what is the recipient of the message going to get out of it? Now there are some things you can do from a technological perspective that are better than others.

Using dashboards connected to real time data sources is generally a better thing than static PowerPoints because it gives people the ability to get the results they care about once you’ve researched that, once you found that out, it gives them the ability to get that data better and faster and at their convenience and not yours.

So you can hand them a live dashboard and say, This is yours.

And anytime, anytime you want to know you wake up at 3am, and you want to know an answer, you want to know about these measures, here’s how you get to them.

That tends to be something people appreciate.

But it also has to be something that requires little or no training.

So looking at something like say Google Data Studio, from an end user perspective, is a good tool to use because it looks familiar.

And it should require very little interpretation, very, very little explanation, which means that if you have a dashboard with like 40 things and flashing knobs and stuff all over then that’s not gonna help anybody.

Generally speaking, when you look at an organization and you look at the people in it the average person who does Doesn’t work in marketing is probably gonna really only care about one or two marketing numbers, right? If you’re, you know, the HR person, you’re probably really only going to care about website traffic to the careers part of the website.

And maybe, depending on how that your company hires, maybe you know, number of job applications submitted.

That’s a real simple dashboard, one graphic traffic, one graphic for job applications, and you’re done.

And the person who’s on the other end of that in a day tracker should be to look at that go, I get it.

traffic to our career sections up or traffic to our career section is down.

Part of that exercise is also asking somebody, okay, of the data that I’m going to give you.

What decisions are you going to make with it? If I give you this information about website traffic to your section, the website going up? What decision will you make from it? If the answer is nothing, then valid questions, so do You need that information? Do you need yet another email or another notification? Or another thing on your desk? If all it’s all it’s going to do is clutter up your life more? Or are you going to make a decision on it say, oh, gosh, website traffic is to the HR section is down.

Okay, well, what do we do about it? We run some ads for job openings.

Do we send more emails? Do we increase the size of our employee referral program? That information is what you need in order to help communicate specific marketing results.

Same for social media, right? If you’re monitoring brand reputation, you’re communicating brand sentiment, what decision do you make from that? Who makes that decision? Is that something that belongs in marketing is something belongs in communications? Is it something that belongs in the C suite to say like, Hey, are you our company’s reputation has declined by 2.5 percent and it has this impact.

What do you want to do about it? At the end of the day, nobody makes a decision.

The information didn’t need to be communicated, right? data without decisions is distraction.

Something we’ve said for a long time data without decisions is distraction doesn’t help anything.

Only data that helps you make decisions is useful.

So give keep that in mind as you look at all these results, and the people you’re communicating them to, what decisions are you going to make from this data? If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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