In today’s episode, you’ll uncover the challenges of removing unwanted data from AI models, and why it’s like trying to unbake a cake. You’ll discover why simply deleting data isn’t effective and explore practical strategies like model pairing and low-rank adapters to mitigate risks and improve AI outputs. You’ll gain valuable insights into refining AI behavior without compromising its capabilities, so tune in to learn how to make your AI safer and more reliable!
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In today’s episode, let’s answer the fairly common question: can you remove data from an AI model? Suppose an AI model knows something that it shouldn’t. How would you remove it? How do you unbake a cake?
When it comes to generative AI and language models in particular, there are a lot of people who are correctly concerned about what’s in the models. There’s absolutely some amount of things like hate speech in there. There’s a tremendous amount of bias. There are piles of information that’s irrelevant most of the time. And that’s because these models are trained on us, on humanity, on content on the internet that comes from human beings. And not all of that is good. Not all of it is great, and some of it is pretty darn downright terrible.
So how do you deal with it? How do you—suppose you want to remove that? Maybe you’re building a chatbot, and you’re like, “Oh, I don’t really want this model to know anything like racist language.” How do you remove it? It’s really tough to do. It’s like unbaking a cake.
Many people turn to approaches like fine-tuning or obliteration to alter the contents of the model itself. This is largely an exercise in futility. And it’s not because the intent is bad—the intent is very good—but it’s a futile exercise because inside of an AI model, if you were to pry it open, is a vast network, a huge set of spiderwebs of statistics, of numerical relationships interwoven and dependent on each other, like a house of cards almost. Trying to remove some of them is akin to trying to remove—take a dessert like this, right? And this has peanut butter on the outside of the pretzel. Try to imagine, “Oh, I don’t like peanut butter, but I’m going to try and remove it from this dessert.” That’s not going to go well. Or removing the poppy seeds from a multi-grained cracker. Yes, you could do it. You could take each pretzel with a knife and a scalpel and start scraping all the peanut butter off. It will take you an enormous amount of time. It’ll be a lot of effort. And what you’ll be left with at the end of the process may not be usable. It certainly will not look like this.
In the open models community, this becomes apparent when people try to uncensor a model, to reduce the number of refusals a model gives when you ask it to do something it doesn’t want to do, that has been—the model makers have tried to insert some form of ethics or morality. For example, if you’re using the consumer version of Google Gemini, it will not answer questions about politics at all—absolute refusal. It will just say, “Hey, I’m not built to help out with this.” So if you were saying, “Hey, who should I vote for?” or “What is this political platform?” or any of those things, it won’t. It will just say, “Nope, won’t do it.”
And those absolute refusals—that’s the model maker’s right to do that—but some people are like, “I would like a model that can help me answer these questions.” So if they were to download an open model, maybe they would want to make sure that the open model would answer these questions, and there are ways to uncensor these, but the process causes damage to the model. Imagine taking a sheet of paper and saying, “I want to remove all of the words that begin with the letter C,” and you get an X-ACTO knife and you start carving out the paper. Well, you’re going to damage stuff on the other side of that page, and you’re going to reduce the readability of that page. Can you do it? Yes. Will it be as good as the original? No.
So how do you get what you want—safer model responses? Maybe, “Let’s make sure our website chatbot can’t be overtly racist.” How do you do that? There are a couple of different ways. First, there are techniques like low-rank adapters, very technical things that can change some of the model’s functionality without changing the model itself. If you’ve ever used a program like Adobe Photoshop or Google Chrome, you have a plugin or a browser extension. These are pieces of software that get added on to the base software. It doesn’t substantially alter the functionality of the base software, but it has changed some capabilities, and, can cause some problems. There have been Chrome browser extensions that will just crash your browser, but they exist as a way to help you get capabilities in your browser that it doesn’t come with. And things like low-rank adapters in AI can do very similar tasks.
Second, and more helpful and more aligned with the ways people want to use AI today, particularly for public-facing applications, is what’s called model pairing. Suppose you have a big foundation model like Google Gemini, Anthropic Claude, GPT-4 from OpenAI. That model, you’d say, “Hey, respond to the customer and create an output.” And instead of the model’s output going straight to the customer, there’s a second model paired with it that has a very specific job, like, “Hey, make sure that this response is not racist,” and maybe it’s tuned to look specifically for racist content. And it would check the work, and if it sees racist content, it would send it back to the foundation model and say, “Hey, try again. That was pretty rude. Try that again,” kind of like a supervisor or quality assurance person. The big model makes something, the QA person checks it and says yes or no, this is good or bad. Maybe you have the models looking for—”Hey, let’s not mention our competitors in our responses,” whatever the thing is you would—the use cases you would want to prevent a big model from generating—you have a smaller model tuned to deal with that.
This approach is highly effective. It is so effective, in fact, that it is the underpinning of a lot of AI agents. A lot of AI agents are nothing more than a couple of models or a few models chained together, connected to each other, to do different parts of tasks. The downside is that this is a very costly process because instead of having one model that you’re running, now you have two. You’ve doubled the compute costs. You’ve potentially doubled the financial cost. And so it’s very expensive, and there’s a speed penalty as well. But if you want to ensure better outcomes and reduce the probability—not eliminate, but reduce the probability—of AI doing bad things, it’s the best approach to take. Because as models get more capable, they get better and better at performing the specific tasks we ask of them. And so if you have a model saying, “Hey, don’t be rude to people”—the supervisor models themselves are getting much better.
At the end of the day, AI’s outputs will never be deterministic, never be absolutely guaranteed. You’ll never be able to guarantee that this model will not be sexist or bigoted or whatever, but techniques like model pairing and low-rank adapters can dramatically reduce bad outcomes. They can make them extremely rare, and they’re way easier than trying to unbake a cake.
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