In today’s episode, you’ll get my single most important piece of marketing advice for 2025 and beyond. As we head into an increasingly AI-driven and chaotic world, you’ll discover why building a strong brand is no longer a luxury, but a necessity for survival. Tune in to learn how investing in your brand can help you weather the storm and thrive in the years to come.
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In today’s episode, Michelle asks, “What one piece of marketing or PR advice would you give to companies as we head into the new year?” It’s that time of year for trends and predictions.
Looking at the big picture—how people are using social media, digital marketing channels, and artificial intelligence—there’s a pretty clear answer. The answer has been the same for the last 10 years, but there’s more urgency to it now: build your brand.
Brand is absolutely essential. There’s a great definition from Seth Godin (2006): “A brand is the emotional aftertaste of experiences.” What is your emotional aftertaste? How well do people recall you? When they do recall you, what do they feel?
You’ve got to build your brand like never before. Invest in your brand like never before. Whatever you’re spending on brand, it isn’t enough. For the people who work with you or for you, help them build their personal brands like they never have before.
We are in an AI-enabled search era, a tumultuous, chaotic macro environment. Everything going on—from climate disasters to instability in governments around the world—creates a psychological and emotional drain on us. We have less time, less energy, and less space to think than ever before. We’re overwhelmed. Our to-do lists keep getting longer. Every company says, “You’ve got to do more with less.” Even I—I co-own my company—even I am saying this to myself. We’ve got to do more without costing more.
So when people are under tremendous pressure, what do they do? They go into survival mode. They go into, “I just got to get through the day, the week, the month, the year. I want shortcuts.” My friend Chris Brogan has this great quote: “When times are good, people want strategy. When times are bad, people want tactics.”
When you look at how people are approaching generative AI and modern digital marketing, people are asking about tactics. “How do I do X?” When people are saying times are not good, it means that instead of investing the time to be thoughtful and do their research, people are going to default to heuristics, to snap judgments, to doing what they’ve always done, because that’s what they know, and they don’t have the bandwidth for more. It’s not that they’re stupid or ignorant; it’s that they’re under such strain that they’re in survival mode.
What does that mean? It means they will default to who they know. My friend Mitch Joel has this great quote: “It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.” That is brand. Brand is being in someone’s head, having that mental real estate, so that when they’re under stress it’s like, “We’ve got to get this AI project going. Who can I talk to? Chris Penn. I know Chris Penn. He does that stuff. I don’t have to think. I don’t have to research. I know that brand. I’m going to go to that brand.”
When you want to order something and it needs to be there the next day, yes, there are a lot of independent vendors, stores, artists, and craftspeople. But if you’ve got 30 seconds to make a decision, you might say, “I’m just going to go to Amazon. I know it. It’ll get here. It may not be great, but it’ll get it off my list.”
In 2025—and again, it’s been the case for 10 years, but especially since the pandemic—people are going to spend less time deliberating and more time getting things off their lists, unless they are at risk, and then they will deliberate forever. If you are in complex marketing, like big-ticket, high-risk marketing, sales cycles and decisions are going to slow way down. Everyone’s going to be in wait-and-see mode, like, “Is it safe to make this purchase? That’s a big investment. Maybe not. Let’s wait.” Sales cycles are going to extend into infinity in 2025 because people will be dealing with a chaotic environment and be risk-averse.
Your brand is the antidote. Your brand is the emotional aftertaste of experiences. If you communicate trust, safety, being as sure a thing as possible, people will resonate. People will think, “I don’t have to think. I’m going with Trust Insights. I don’t have to think. I’m going to MarketingProfs, B2B Forum, Social Media Marketing World, or the Marketing AI Conference.” I don’t want to have to investigate whether a new show or conference is right for me. I know these brands. They do a good job. It’s good enough. It’s off my list. Done.
The only way to be on people’s mental shortlists in the next year and the foreseeable future is to build your brand. So please invest the time to build your brand now, starting today. Whenever you’re watching this, starting right now. The best time to do this was 10 years ago. The second best time is right now.
That’s my one piece of advice as we enter the new year. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk on the next one.
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