In today’s episode, I answer the critical question: Should you use DeepSeek? You’ll learn that it depends on your specific use cases and infrastructure. For non-sensitive, non-private tasks, DeepSeek is an absolute yes, due to its terrific performance and incredibly low cost, especially via API. You’ll discover that even at full price, DeepSeek’s API is about 20 times less expensive than competitors like OpenAI, making it a top choice for cost-effective AI solutions.
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In this final part of DeepSeek week here on the blog and the channel, let’s answer—wrapping up everything we’ve discussed. Should you use DeepSeek?
It depends on your use cases and infrastructure, is the answer. It depends, which is the least satisfying answer in the world. Should you use it for non-sensitive, non-private informational tasks? Yes, absolutely, yes. Its performance is terrific, especially if you’re using it through an API. So, anyone who’s building an app that uses AI absolutely should be using it for non-private information because it is so low cost.
When I was starting to test out the model, I went to my CEO, Katie, and I said, “Hey, I’m going to drop 50 bucks on their API to get started.” And she’s like, “Okay, well, how long is that going to last? If you’re going to be hitting it and doing coding experiments with it, what’s the price going to be? How much are we going to get hit for?”
And I said, “Yeah, I’m going to put 50 bucks in and we’re going to see just how far that goes because it might be great. It might—I might burn through it really fast.”
In that time, I’ve built a few different apps, fun ones, like an emoji crossword puzzle and a few other things—nothing sensitive, nothing private, nothing client-based. I just wanted to give it a shot. In that time, and I’ve been using it now for probably half a month, aggressively, with very frequent API calls—thousands of API calls, nearly 20 million tokens—how much have I spent? 1.34. I’ve spent1.34 until then.
Now, granted, they’re on promotional pricing right now. The pricing is going to go up to 27 cents per million tokens input and 1.10 output on the output side. So right now, the discounted rates are 14 cents and 28 cents out. That’s going to go up to 27 cents and1.10 out. Now, you might say, is that good? Is that bad? How does that compare to everything else? Well, if we were to look at the pricing for other models, even their full pricing is crazy good.
So, OpenAI is GPT 4. Oh, let me go back to DeepSeek’s pricing here. 27 cents per million input tokens, dollar 10 output tokens. It’s going to average together. It’s going to be about 75 cents or so. OpenAI, 4.38 is what it is going to cost to use the regular model. DeepSeek is going to go to call it buck 50 or so after the promotional pricing ends—buck 50 for a million tokens. OpenAI’s,26. So buck 50 at premium pricing versus $26 for the same level of service. That is stupid cheap. That’s 20 times less expensive.
So, should you be using DeepSeek if you are doing stuff where you’re going to hit the API pretty hard and you’re going to run the bill up in terms of calls to the API and the number of tokens you’re following through it? Absolutely, you should for anything not private, anything not sensitive, absolutely you should. It should be your first choice because it will save you a ton of money.
We talked in the previous episode about privacy. Should you be using it for private things? And the answer for that is no, unless you’re running it yourself. If you’re running it yourself on your hardware, then it’s all the cost of your hardware and your electricity. And I would strongly encourage you to have the hardware to run it locally because some of the distilled versions of it, like the little models they’ve modified, [are] absolutely incredible, incredible state-of-the-art performance for small models in an environment that you run it on your desktop. Yeah, it’ll spin the fans on your laptop a little bit, but you don’t need a nuclear reactor for that. You don’t need access to rivers full of fresh water to run a high-performance model on your desktop.
When you look at the scores that the DeepSeek Llama versions have gotten on various benchmark tests, they’re so incredibly good compared to even the big data center models. So, let me pull this up here. This is in their paper. OpenAI’s GPT40 on the math 500 score test scored a 74.6. Claude Sonnet score is 78. 01 Mini scores a 90. Llama, the DeepSeek version, 94.5. That is state of the art for a model that you can run on your desktop.
Now, how do you get set up with that? There’s a Trust Insights live stream. If you go to trustinsights.ai/youtube, you can catch the past live stream on getting started with local models because that’s how you’re going to deploy. You’re going to deploy it locally if your computer can run it. You need at least 64 giga RAM and preferably 16 gigabytes of V RAM, video RAM to do it. 128 would be better. So, you need a big laptop. I’m running this on a MacBook M4, and I have enough memory to have the 128-gigabyte version, so I have enough memory to do that. But even like an older M2 MacBook, as long as you’ve got 64 or 96 giga RAM, you can run some of these DeepSeek distilled versions and get incredibly good performance with just the cost of your own electricity. And if you’re in my house, I have solar panels, so it’s effectively solar, effectively free.
But the bottom line is this: Chinese AI companies—I saw Kimi came out with a model recently. ByteDance came out with a new model. There’s a bunch of really good video models, and now DeepSeek and its LLMs—Chinese model makers are making incredibly high-performance, high-quality models, giving them away for free and providing very low-cost options for us to use them.
I would encourage you, regardless of where you are in the world, I would encourage you to not develop brand loyalty with AI models in the same way that you don’t develop brand loyalty to the engine in your car. You might have brand loyalty to the overall car, but not to the engine in your car. Now, as generative AI matures, I think it’s really important that you keep the idea of brand loyalty at arm’s length away because models change so fast, technology changes so fast that you should be agile enough just to swap out, say, “Okay, well, this is now state of the art, and as long as it meets your requirements, let’s switch to that and just keep surfing the waves of technological change.” Your foundational principles that Katie talks about all the time, like good requirements gathering, understanding your organization, and your people, and what the purpose is of all the stuff—that stays the same. As the technology changes, you just swap things in and out.
As you are building software, it is really important to build abstraction layers in your software. So, any kind of app that you’re building where you have an AI model, you want an abstraction layer in there so that as models change, you just pull one old model up, put a new model in. It’s like driving your car into the shop where they just pulled the engine out, put a new engine in, everything hooks up because you’ve taken the time to not hard code a model of anyone’s into your app. When new stuff comes out, it’s easy for you to pivot. It’s easy for you to make changes. That’s what’s going to set apart companies who are successful with AI in the long run from companies who get too fixated on some company or some brand or some agreement to pivot.
If—and I know this is happening because I’ve talked to a couple of clients—if a tech company is pressuring you to sign an exclusive agreement with them, run. Run as fast as you can away from them because the technology is changing too fast. Today’s state of the art could be tomorrow’s laggard. And if you want to continue to offer state-of-the-art capabilities to your customers, you want the flexibility to say, “You know what? We’re changing. This DeepSeek came out. We’re changing when the next big thing, when Mistral releases Mistral Large 3 and it beats the pants off of DeepSeek, you want to be able to change.” Say, “You know what? It was fun. Moving on.” Think of it like that. Make sure that you don’t fall in the brand loyalty trap. And believe me, especially in the tech oligarchy that exists in the United States, they’re going to push real hard to create that brand loyalty. “Oh, I’m an OpenAI guy. I’m a Google Gemini guy.” No, don’t be that. Be “I’m a results guy or gal or person.” Be a results person. Be a state-of-the-art person, and don’t be loyal to any one technology provider because, A, they can all go away, and B, you want to be nimble. When the technology is changing this fast, you want to be nimble.
That’s going to do it for DeepSeek week here on the blog and the channel. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll talk to you in the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.
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