In this episode, master the essential levels of product market fit to recession-proof your business. You will learn the critical differences between “done for you,” “done with you,” and “done by you” service models. You’ll discover how offering all three levels can expand your customer base and stabilize revenue in any economy. You will explore practical strategies to use AI to optimize your service offerings and identify market gaps. Watch now to strengthen your product market fit and ensure your business thrives through economic changes.
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about the thoroughness of product market fit. How thorough is your product market fit?
Broadly speaking, there are three levels of product or service, a scale, if you will. This is true of every industry, B2B, B2C, large scale, small scale, big ticket items, individual items. The three levels are done for you, done with you, and done by you: done for you, done with you, and done by you.
For example, done for you: Starbucks. You go to Starbucks, you get a large cup of coffee, and you’ve got your cup of coffee and you’re happy. Everything was done for you.
Done with you: you go to the grocery store, you get a bag of roasted ground coffee. It’s been roasted, it’s been ground, it’s pre-packaged, all you got to do is put it in the coffee machine. Or another example would be like a Kurig, a K-cup.
And done by you would be like a bag of green coffee beans, beans that are unroasted. You’ve got to roast them, you’ve got to cure them, you’ve got to grind them, and you’ve got to make your own cup of coffee.
That’s a product example. A services example, let’s take AI agents. Done for you: Trust Insights builds you an AI agent. We just go, here’s your agent, and it’s just been done. You don’t do anything. Done with you: maybe Trust Insights builds a product requirements document, a PRD, and a work plan for you to build your AI agents, all the heavy lifting of what’s supposed to do and what are the things that could go wrong, all that’s been done. Maybe there’s some sample code. You assemble it and then, of course, it’s, it is, you have it and you’re ready to go. Done by you: we might give you a course on how to build AI agents, a Trust Insights course on AI agent best practices—no sample code, nothing, just good luck.
We see this in cooking. Done: you go out to dinner. Done with you: get a meal kit. Done by you: you got a recipe and you got to do all the work. You got to get the ingredients, you got to cook it and stuff like that.
This scale is important from a product market fit relationship because value and price goes up the scale. You get a bag of the green coffee beans, you can get for five bucks. You can get like 50 cups of coffee out of that because you got to do…you got to provide the roaster, you got to provide the grinder, you got to provide the labor, the expertise to know how to roast coffee properly and not burn it. You get a lot of coffee out of it. If you get a can of coffee that has been pre-roasted, you might get like 25 cups out of that because it’s not maybe not as much. And you go to Starbucks and for the same five bucks, you get one cup of coffee because it’s done for you. The more the customer has to do, the less we charge for it. The more that we have to do, the more we charge for it.
This is generally true across almost every industry. There is…why do we care about this? The takeaway here isn’t to know which level you’re at because yes, some companies, they specialize in one of those categories. The takeaway here, as we’re in a very, very uncertain and volatile economy, is to have some kind of product or service for each of the levels. Why? Because everyone has different needs. Some people, they just want you to do it all for them, like cook me dinner. Some people want to do it themselves, like, “I want…I’m a control freak and I need to have the green coffee beans so I can get the exact roast I want. I want a full city, I want between full city plus and you’re not going to find that on the shelf.” Those people, they want to do it all.
Some people want the convenience of “done for you” at the price of “done by you”. This is where product market fit falls out, where someone says, what’s the expression, “Champagne tastes on Miller Light budget.” We’ve all heard that in the consulting world, of course.
In any product service world, if you only have one level of service, if you only have “done for you” and someone comes in with a “done by you” budget, you can’t serve them. You can’t accept their money. You can’t trade value because you’ve got a mismatch. You don’t have that pricing. If you have other service offerings, you can say, “Hey, I understand you don’t have the budget for ‘done for you.’ I’ve got this ‘done by you’ option that is, you know, you have to provide all the work and the expertise,” and then that satisfies maybe, this satisfies their needs.
Someone comes to Trust Insights and says, “Hey, I’ve got this big huge project. Can you do it?” And we look at the requirements, go, “Sure. Yeah, we can do this. The budget’s going to be 50,000.” And they say, “But I’ve got10.” Like, “Here’s a blog post you can read.” They say, “I’ve got 200.” “Great. Here’s a course you can take. Take our prompt engineering, a mastering prompt engineering for marketers course.” They say, “I’ve got2,000.” “Okay, well, maybe we can provide some code samples and things and you can give you the the meal kit equivalent.”
In uncertain economic times, when you think back to 2020 when the world went into shutdown for a few months and budgets got and projects got canceled all over the place, think back to 2008, the great recession, when Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers kind of went boom and the markets all collapsed, companies that had only one service offering really struggled, only one level of service offering. They really struggled because they didn’t have something when somebody else said, “I used to have a big budget, now I have a small budget. What can you do?” And those companies were either forced to dramatically discount their services just to stay in business, which is, you know, running at a loss is granted that better than running at no income at all, but it’s still running at a loss and you can’t sustain that for very long, or they have to turn away business and the addressable market that they can serve, the available market they can serve shrinks.
Funny thing, this has been long experience of consulting people, tend to come in for a “done for you.” They find out the budget, they say no, and you give them a “done by you” and they’re like, “Great, thank you.” They go off and do it. They often try it and then they realize they’re totally incompetent at it. Then you can come back with it to them and say, “How about ‘done with you’ or ‘done for you?’” It’s a much easier sell to that person because they know they can’t do “done by you.” They tried to save a few bucks and they end up paying more, and that’s okay. That’s okay. It’s a good business strategy for your company to let someone, if they they say, “This is the budget that we can spare,” great, here’s the offerings that are available to you.
If you don’t have all three options of “done by you,” “done with you,” and “done for you,” you can’t upsell, you can’t downsell. You can’t cross-sell. If somebody says, “Yeah, I wanted to work with you, but my budget got slashed 85%,” if you only have one offering, you’re…you can’t sell to them. You can’t have them as a customer. If you have that “done by you” option, and to be clear, we’re not talking about deeply discounting your services, we’re not talking about that. We are talking about having options that provide value commensurate with the the budget that the customer has. You don’t have to give someone champagne on a Miller Light budget. You can give them Miller Light if you have Miller Light handy.
The other thing that changes is scale. “Done by you” scales really well. Everyone can buy the $199 course for Trust Insights and there’s no additional work for us. It’s done. Here it is. Go do the thing. If everyone bought a quarter-million dollar AI agent enterprise deployment from Trust Insights, we couldn’t do it. We just don’t have the resources to scale up to do thousands of these very expensive, laborious, very in-depth deployments a month because we do things like requirements gathering and stakeholder interviews and input calls and surveys. It’s a very thorough process because it’s an enterprise deployment, and we want to get it right, but you can’t do that thousands of times. You can sell a course thousands of times.
So, if your company is in a model where you have a big “done for you” option that costs big budgets and you need to scale revenue, but you can’t scale your resources, look at those other levels. Look at “done with you.” Look at “done by you.” What could you scale in those other categories that would be less of a resource strain for you?
Here’s what you should do: write out your current product market matrix of what you have in those three levels: “done for you,” “done with you,” “done by you.” Spend time drafting. Spend time thinking about it. Spend time with your voice memos app recording information about it. Then use the generative AI tool of your choice to say, how can we tune up these offerings? You don’t have a “done with you” offering and you have a “done for you” and you have a “done by you” and you don’t have a “done with you,” ask generative AI, what would it look like to have a service offering that’s a mid-range offering here, mid-range value, mid-range effort to complement this product market fit?
If you do that, you will be well-positioned for any kind of economic upturn, downturn, twist, turn, who cares? You will have options. As your reputation grows, as your business grows, if you have only “done by you” and maybe a little bit of “done with you” and you have no “done for you,” you could be missing out on a whole very lucrative market. So, you would want to do this exercise with the generative AI tool of your choice to figure out what does a “done for you” look like.
The hardest part I think for most companies is going to be that middle level, the “done with you,” because it’s…it’s not as clear as, “Hey, customer, go do the thing yourself,” or, “Hey, customer, we’ll take care of it all.” That middle level with that middle value is something that you can potentially have a market gap for. If every one of your competitors is either a “done by you” or “done for you” and nobody’s in that middle with “done with you,” there’s a market opportunity there. There’s an opportunity for you to make some revenue from a segment of customers that are not being served by either option.
So give that a look. That’s going to do for today’s episode. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you soon.
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