In this episode, discover how failing up corrupts workplaces and sabotages AI. You’ll learn why promoting incompetent people poisons company culture and metrics. You’ll see how bad data from these performers can train AI to repeat failures. You’ll get actionable steps to clean your data and stop failing up. Don’t let broken systems break your AI—watch now to protect your organization.
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In today’s episode, let’s talk about failing up.
In a recent Trust Insights newsletter—linked in the notes—my partner and CEO, Katie, talked about the dangers of allowing poor performers in an organization to fail up.
These are, as she states, folks who get promoted despite their abysmal track records because they play the game better than they do their actual work. They know how to play office politics. They know who to schmooze. They know how to throw other people under the bus, how to deflect blame and take credit. They’re really good at hiding how incompetent they are.
And they leave a long track record of junk—claiming successes that aren’t theirs, handing off failures to other people, or making subordinates take the blame for their terrible management.
But there’s an additional hidden danger to allowing that kind of behavior to persist in an office culture—one that even encourages failing up. And that’s a pretty prevalent thing.
In fact, the very concept of the Peter Principle—where you ascend to the level of your incompetence because organizations keep promoting you out of things you’re good at into things you’re not good at—until you stop rising.
This has big consequences. Obviously, it makes workplaces terrible to work at. But in the age of generative AI, this causes an additional problem: Are you teaching AI to fail?
If you’re training your AI systems on a corporate knowledge base full of failures disguised as successes, your AI is going to learn to think like these terrible performers.
What is success? What is failure? We’d like to think we’ve settled on tangible, real-world KPIs. Then you go to a conference or a meeting where people talk about things like “ad value equivalence” or “the number of social media followers” they grew for their company. And I’m thinking, That’s not super helpful. I mean, it’s better than zero results—but if your company is asking you to make money and you hand them a bunch of followers, that’s not success. That’s not end-goal success.
The danger of those who fail up is that they love to spin these metrics to make them look like successes, even if they don’t accomplish actual goals—like revenue, customers, or customer retention. They just spin a lot of nonsense to make themselves look good.
Then, in 18 months, when they’ve either been promoted out of the role or moved on to victimize another company, you’re left with a record of what looks like success but is actually failure.
You may have a large quantity of data in your organization that appears successful—but isn’t, because it didn’t achieve the end goal. And if you blindly use that data with your AI tools, assuming everything this person did was good, you’re going to teach AI systems to mimic those failures.
Generative AI systems work best when you give them your data—but the asterisk is: if your data is crap. And if your data is crap because people are disguising failure as success, you’re going to teach AI to pursue and mimic those patterns.
The key takeaway is straightforward:
– Prohibit failing up as much as possible. Don’t let people fail up in an organization.
– Barring that, ensure all your data—qualitative and quantitative—is screened before handing it to AI. Do a reality check on the KPIs that matter.
– Did this person’s tenure as CMO or VP of Marketing result in real metric increases?
– Did they bring in more money? More leads? Happier customers?
– If they didn’t, then—as painful as it is—discard that data. Archive it and put it in the back of the warehouse with the Ark of the Covenant. Don’t give it to AI tools.
AI systems learn from what we teach them. Try to avoid teaching them the habit of lying about failure and calling it success.
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