In today’s episode, you’ll get a breakdown of the three versions of DeepSeek: V3, R1, and the distilled models. You’ll discover how each version performs, from the user-friendly V3 chat model to the advanced reasoning capabilities of R1. You’ll benefit from seeing these models in action, including a demonstration of a locally hosted, completely private version that you can run on your own computer. Tune in to learn which version is right for you and how you can leverage them.
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Welcome to Part 2 of Deep Seek Week, if you will, on the channel here and on the blog. In the first part, we talked about why Deep Seek is such a big deal, why everyone’s paying so much attention to it. Today, we’re going to talk about the different versions that are available to you and me and the kind of results that we get out of them. So there’s going to be three different flavors of the Deep Seek technology. There is V3, which is their chat model, which is the equivalent of Chat GPT’s GPT-4. All you talk to it, you know how to use it, you’ve used Chat GPT forever, it’s the same exact thing. There is R1, their reasoning model, which is the advanced thinking model, and then they have these distilled models that they’ve made of other high-performing AI models they tuned with their processes. These three sort of, I guess, categories are what’s available to us, and we can run them in a bunch of different ways.
This is something that makes Deep Seek very different than Chat GPT or Google’s Gemini or Anthropic Claude. With those companies, you have to use their services. You cannot run Google Gemini on your own computer. You cannot download Open AI’s 01. With Deep Seek, you can use their services, which are provided through their company’s website and stuff like that. And we’ll talk in the next part about whether that’s a good idea or not. But you can, if you have the hardware, you can download and run these things yourself. So let’s briefly take a look at the way it performs, and we’re going to use their interface to start. Now I do want to emphasize, read the privacy policy because it is very permissive for them, which means that your data is going to be going to be used. So just being aware of that, that is, that’s what’s going on here. Let’s start with a—let’s start with a standard prompt.
I’m going to have Deep Seek, the straight, the straight chat version, compose some song lyrics. I’ve got a very long prompt here that says we’re going to write a song about social media, X threads, and Blue Sky, and so on and so forth. Actually, I’m going to make a quick modification to this. So we’ve got our long, our guidance for lyrics. Let’s see how Deep Seek itself performs. This is going to be the V3 chat. So it’s got, it’s no different than GPT-4, which means that you’re prompting. I’m using a fairly naive prompt because I just want to see if we can make a fun song about Blue Sky. And I came up with decent, pretty decent scrolling through the cast, it’s a little fight. Elon’s got the Nazis and Zucker’s got the right. Threads is just an echo where the same thoughts repeat, Blue Sky’s got the vibe. It’s a retro tweet treat. That’d be a tough to say. But it did a pretty credible job there.
Now, let’s take that exact same prompt, start in your chat. I’m going to turn on reasoning mode. So this turns, switches it from V3 to R1, their reasoning model. Let’s see what happens with this. We give it that. And now it starts to do chain of thought aloud. So it’s saying, hey, I think I need to start doing this. I need to be, it needs to be this. I’ll break down the key elements. This is what this means. These are the jabs. And it comes out with, just quickly eyeballing this, a better result. Elon’s X marks a spot where brain cells decay, a rocket man tweeting, I don’t know, mean display while Tony Stark cosplay runs. Oh, man. It did a decent job. I can scroll clearly now. The trash is rinsed out. That’s, that’s, okay, that’s pretty darn good. So this is R1.
You can see that what R1 did was it took some time to basically sort of have a meeting with itself to come up with some options before spitting out its output. This is, this is pretty darn good. Now, the third model that we’d want to use is we’re going to use one of the Meta-Llama models, but we’re going to use the one that Deep Seek tuned. So this is one that runs on your computer if your computer has enough memory. So I’m running a MacBook M4 with 120 gigabytes of RAM. This model occupies about 50 gigabytes of memory for the model itself. Plus, it requires five or six gigabytes for the context window. So we can see already just on what’s doing. It’s got its own chain of thought. So it’s saying, here’s what I think I need to do. And now I’m going to start doing the thing.
This is obviously, you can see also considerably slower, but because this is locally hosted, it is completely private. So if I put this to the side here, we can actually see the Llama, the Deep Seek version of Llama churning away, trying to figure out what words, what probabilities to do. So it’s going through this chain of thought first and then we’ll assemble the lyrics. So it’s not much different procedurally from this version of Deep Seek, where you could see the chain of thought. This version, because it’s a much larger model, is capable of more advanced thought, more thorough thought. But this is still not bad. So let’s wait for this to finish up. So what you’re seeing here from the Llama version that Deep Seek tuned is not bad.
I would rate its performance roughly on par with maybe GPT-4 or maybe the previous version, GPT-4V. It’s not as good. You can tell just from a purely qualitative perspective, it’s not quite as good as the more advanced model, but that’s expected from a model that you can run on your laptop as opposed to a model that requires a data center. So these are the versions of Deep Seek that are available to us. Again, if you have the hardware, and for running V3 or R1, you need a lot of hardware. When Nvidia’s project digits come up, the 3,000 computer that has 120 gig of shared memory, you’re going to need three of them tied together, which it can do to run Deep Seek R1 locally.
However, that would give you state-of-the-art high-speed output for under 10 grand, which for a small to mid-sized business is reasonable. It’s not great, but it’s reasonable for a large enterprise. It’s terrific. And for anyone who wanted state-of-the-art performance, I mean, that’s a lot cheaper than buying in an H-200 at50,000. So those are the versions that are available to you. Now, you’ll note that the web version doesn’t require anything other than for you to create an account and log in. The downloadable versions do require extra effort to put together, but the trade-off is that a downloadable version that you’re running is completely private. You can do whatever you want. And there’s no difference between that and any other app that’s on your computer that doesn’t call home. So I think that’s a great place to stop because we want to transition into part three, which is, is Deep Seek safe, especially given some of the hype that’s being discussed right now. So we’ll come back and talk about that in the next part, until see you then.
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