In this episode, learn how generative AI is revolutionizing the software industry. You will discover why companies are now building their own software, ditching expensive SaaS subscriptions. You’ll understand how AI is slashing software development time and costs, shifting the build versus buy balance. You will explore how this change impacts SaaS vendors and empowers businesses to create tailored solutions. Watch now to navigate the new era of software and make informed decisions for your tech stack.
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In today’s episode, Lisa writes in, “I just saw a thing on LinkedIn about Klarna, the software company, kicking 1,200 SaaS providers to the curb, including Salesforce. And when you read the details, it says, Klarna, CEO, Sebastian Simiatowski—gosh, it’s a Polish name—casually dropped that the bombshell on an earnings call, that they’ve basically built their own. They use generative AI to build their own CRM, and so they’re dropping Salesforce.”
So, what’s my take on it?
Here’s the thing. The ongoing equation for software companies and SaaS in particular is build versus buy. That is always the balances. Which do we do? Do we build? Do we buy?
When you buy it, you pay money, and in return, you don’t have to make the software. You don’t have to maintain the software. You don’t have to provide updates to the software. You don’t have to do anything to the software. It just happens for you.
Now, there’s upsides to that. It’s lower maintenance. If you don’t have the technical talent in-house, you don’t have to maintain it. You have to fix bugs. You don’t have to worry about infrastructure. You don’t have to worry about security. All that should be taken care of by somebody else in exchange for lots of money. That’s a good model for a lot of people.
When you build it, you don’t pay money to other people except maybe some infrastructure costs. You instead pay money to a developer. You pay money to a QA person, a product manager. You…is a product that you have to maintain internally. You’ve got to patch the bugs. You’ve got to keep it secure. You got to do all these things to make this thing run and stay running and be highly available and all that stuff.
Here’s what’s different now in the world of generative AI. The equation is always, do we spend time and effort, or do we spend money? When you look at the time and effort in the era of generative AI, particular with tools like Ader or Klein or Cursor, any of these AI-enabled development tools, suddenly the scale starts to tilt because now you don’t need 5 or 10 or 15 developers or QA people to run an app. You might need one or two or maybe three, and it becomes a lot cheaper.
On the flip side, one of the things with SaaS companies is you’re kind of stuck with them. That’s what SaaS companies are always talking about. How do we make our product more sticky? How do we make it harder for people to leave? How do we make it harder for people to change to a competitor? What can we offer in our product that makes it very difficult for someone to ever exit? That’s why for years, we’ve always said, if whatever vendor you’re working for, if there isn’t an export button that exports to like CSV files, don’t use that vendor because they’re trying to lock you in.
When generative AI dramatically reduces development costs and QA costs and dramatically reduces the effort it takes to make changes or updates to a system and knows the best practices for securing a system, yeah, it suddenly starts to look more appealing. Here’s the thing, here’s the part that SaaS vendors don’t want to talk about at all: nobody has a moat. There is no moat anymore. There is no moat that prevents someone else from developing a competitor. Even if you’ve got your proprietary interface and all this stuff, the reality is CRM or marketing automation is an idea. You cannot copyright ideas.
So, someone could take the idea, like, “Hey, I want a CRM that does this, this, this, this, and this. And I also want to do this that no vendor offers. I want to do this that no vendor offers,” and so on and so forth. You hand it to generative AI with the help of a skilled developer—please don’t do this without the help of a skilled developer, it will just go badly—make the thing. It will be exactly what you want. You have to still maintain it. You have to still work on the infrastructure. You have to still provide the security, the high availability, but the cost to create the thing is much, much lower.
Back in the early 2000s, I worked to the financial services company. I was reasonably good at PHP, reasonably good at MySQL, and we built a custom CRM. It took me six months to build this thing with the web interface and the database and all the custom fields and stuff. Eventually we ended up hiring two or three more developers just to advance the thing because we hit a limit of my level of skill. Six months.
When I think back to the product requirements of what was in version one that took me six months to build, with generative AI, I could probably build that in about a day, maybe two days, because I know exactly what the layout is. I know exactly the database layout is. I know what the requirements are for what it had to do. Yeah, it would take 8 to 12 hours instead of six months to make the same product.
When build is 50%, 60%, 80% cheaper, by starts to look like a bad deal. Yes, there is the whole, let somebody else handle the mess for me, but more and more, generative AI is going to change that equation. If you are a SaaS company, assume that product is not the advantage anymore. Product can be very easily replicated.
So, what else do you have that would differentiate you in an age when everybody can make your product? Is it the service? Is there unique data that your platform has access to that other people don’t have and that they couldn’t easily replicate? Is there a relationship? Do you have…does your software come with an account manager who knows the industry and can provide that expert-level, serve strategic advice? Is there downstream outputs that you can provide or upstream outputs that you can provide that, again, are very hard for generative AI to replicate?
If you are a product-first company and you’re doing as much as you can to reduce your costs on support and stuff like that using AI, well, guess what? You are making it easier and easier for an AI system to reproduce your company, your crown jewel, the thing that makes you money, and it puts you at substantial risk, substantial risk.
So, to answer Lisa’s question, what’s my take? My take is that SaaS companies have no moat when it comes to product and that the build versus buy equation is tilting dramatically in favor of build for product itself. What will allow a SaaS company to remain in business is all the stuff that isn’t product. If you are cutting costs everywhere with AI, then you are making yourself obsolete very, very quickly.
It is incumbent upon every company that makes software as a product to say, what is our non-product advantage? And it is incumbent upon every company that uses software to sit down in question, should we build this, particularly, should we build this tailored to our industry? Should we build this tailored to our company?
Think about something like Libra Office, the open-source office productivity suite, that is the open-source movement’s answer to Microsoft Word and Excel and all that stuff. It is very good. It has been very good for a very long time. Companies who are looking to save on licensing costs will use Libra Office. It’s cross-compatible with all major document formats. It’s very good. The same reason people use Google Docs.
What would it look like? Because it’s open-source to take the Libra Office source code with detailed prompts from how you use office software and a coding environment like Ader or Klein or Cursor and say, remove all the stuff that we never use. And here’s a whole bunch of things that the legal profession uses. Let’s remove these features from the code base and make a slimmed-down, streamlined version of the software that is tailored for the work that we do. Or there’s this thing. I wish this software did that nobody’s software does. How do we build this into a fork of this for ourselves?
This is one of the reasons why I think open-source software is so important for every company to understand what’s out there, what is freely available, what is things that you can modify, because in the past, yeah, you would have had to devote a dozen developers to tuning and maintaining open-source software for your company. Now it’s like one developer and generative AI. Suddenly that equation is very different.
So, that’s my answer to Lisa’s question. If you are a company that uses software, you should be looking and reevaluating build versus buy. If you’re a company that makes software, you should be thinking about how customers might do an end run around you and then focusing on what are the advantages that you bring that are not software, even though you’re a software company.
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