Yes, you're in a depression

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There’s no formal economic definition of a depression like there is a recession. That said, a depression is basically a really bad recession. The current environment fits that description aptly. Despite wishes to the contrary, more folks are realizing that we are in the midst of a new depression.

Wall Street Journal:

International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn said the world’s advanced economies — the U.S., Western Europe and Japan — are “already in depression,” and that the IMF could slash its global growth forecasts further. The “worst cannot be ruled out,” he said.

The IMF managing director’s comments to reporters after a speech in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, represent the most dire estimate thus far of the state of the global economy by a major political figure, and were far more pessimistic than forecasts released by the IMF as recently Jan. 28.

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Scotland On Sunday:

‘WE SHOULD agree as a world on a monetary and fiscal stimulus that will take the world out of r… depression.” Thus spake Gordon Brown at Prime Minister’s Questions last Wednesday, creating shock waves as far afield as Washington (“He said the D-word!”).

San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank President Janet Yellen:

The economy is “severely depressed,” and the U.S. faces “horrific” deficits over the long term, Yellen said in response to audience questions.

Manhattan in the depressionYes, it’s a depression. The D-word. It’s okay to say it. It’s okay to admit it, because to use it brings our public discourse in alignment with reality.

Often quoted are the unemployment rates during the last depression – 25% of the workforce. During the last depression, that accounted for 11,385,000 people at the peak.

On Friday, we hit 7.6% unemployment – 11,616,000 people.

Percentage-wise, the percent of the labor force unemployed during the depression of the 1930s was much higher than today. That’s what you hear politicians say over and over again as they try to soothe anxieties of the public that are looking at a very different reality than the marbled chambers of Congress.

In terms of real families, real kids’ mouths to feed, real parents awake late into the night, we’ve just surpassed the last depression.

If we’re willing to drop false pretenses and admit in our public conversation that yes, this is a real depression, perhaps that’s the wakeup call that our political leaders need to hear. Drop your stupid partisan agendas, BOTH parties, listen to the economists who have been proven right over and over again in this climate (Nouriel Roubini, James K. Galbraith, many others), and get America moving again.

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11 responses to “Yes, you're in a depression”

  1. chelpixie Avatar

    For once, I pretty much agree with you without a branched off argument about “what if”.

    I wish both sides would sit down, shut up and get to work. Their bickering isn't getting us anywhere.

  2. Albert_Maruggi Avatar

    Penn, if you want to smile in the face of depression, the best comment on your post is Carlin on soft language

    enjoy on your way to the bread line, er soup kitchen, er I mean food shelf, there that's better.

  3. Albert_Maruggi Avatar

    Penn, you want to smile even through this depression? No one can comment on your post better than Carlin on soft language

  4. Chel Wolverton Avatar

    For once, I pretty much agree with you without a branched off argument about “what if”.

    I wish both sides would sit down, shut up and get to work. Their bickering isn't getting us anywhere.

  5. Albert_Maruggi Avatar

    Penn, if you want to smile in the face of depression, the best comment on your post is Carlin on soft language

    enjoy on your way to the bread line, er soup kitchen, er I mean food shelf, there that's better.

  6. brandon Avatar
    brandon

    We can not be in a depression because to be in a depression we would have to be in a recession for two years. Technically we didn't go into a recession until later last year. Therefore this would still be a recession not a depression.

  7. brandon Avatar
    brandon

    We can not be in a depression because to be in a depression we would have to be in a recession for two years. Technically we didn't go into a recession until later last year. Therefore this would still be a recession not a depression.

  8. brandon Avatar
    brandon

    We can not be in a depression because to be in a depression we would have to be in a recession for two years. Technically we didn't go into a recession until later last year. Therefore this would still be a recession not a depression.

  9. One Ounce Silver Coin Avatar

    Brandon, I fully agree with you. Recession should not lead you to a depression. Everything is part of a game. Once you are in depression, recession will continue for ever-only for you.

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