Genevieve asks, “What tips would you give to someone wanting to start a podcast?”
Having been a podcaster since 2005, I have so many. Let’s start with the basics.
- For business, have clear, measurable goals.
- Start small. Your smartphone and a $40 headset or mic are good enough.
- Your first 10 episodes will suck. Acknowledge it.
- Use AI to transcribe if you don’t have time to do it yourself. Text is still how search engines find things, even today.
- Be regular and frequent – the Seinfeld rule.
- Great content follows the 3E rule – so must your podcast.
- Podcasters always worry about the tools – worry about the audience.
- Expect to pay for ads to grow your audience unless you already have massive brand equity.
- Measure your podcast with Google Analytics™ and traffic to your podcast website. Downloads aren’t useful.
- The most powerful marketing tool for your podcast is an email list. Build with that as a secondary goal to your overall business goal.
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JOHN we have asks in today’s you ask I answer. What are some tips you would give to someone wanting to start a podcast. Now I’m going to assume this is for business purposes. If you’re going to do this for personal purposes podcasting far fewer best practices exist as a student for fun. And that’s totally awesome and I would encourage people if you want to start a podcast for fun. Great, go for it for business. There are sort of 10 basics that I think are important for starting a podcast and doing it well for business purposes. Number one, first and foremost, kind of clear measurable goals. Why are you doing a podcast. What is the the end goal that you want to support if you don’t have this don’t do the podcast and it’s true of any form of marketing. If you don’t have a goal, don’t do it. So even waste your time number to start small, your smartphone and a $40 headset like this wireless one here or.
This little Wiimote of ads. It plugs right into your headphones is good enough podcast just tend to worry a lot about the technology, the tools and the gear is good enough to start once you get some traction. Once you get some audience, then you can start to worry about all the other stuff like really expensive microphones and things. Number three, your first 10 episodes are gonna suck acknowledge it. That’s just the way it is expecting your podcast to be perfect out of the gate. Not going to happen and your show will evolve over time there will be
changes and how you do stuff. There’ll be updates and upgrades along the way. So, but acknowledged the first 10 episodes will be awful. They will be the things that you will go back and laugh at and that’s okay. Number four, use artificial intelligence transcribe your show. If you don’t have time to do it yourself by hand text is still how search engines find things even, you know, it’s still 2018.
But search engines still use text. First, there are a number of good services Amazon transcribed just came out of beta there’s auto dot AI,
there are there’s Google speech to text Watson speech to text from IBM a number of good services that can transcribe at very very low cost. So take a look at them, I would say, give,
give, Google Watson and Amazon a shot at transcribing a podcast. My recommendation is read off of a set of prepared notes and then
record your reading of it then stick it into each of the services and then which and compare the transcripts that come back and whichever is the one that’s most accurate for your voice use that service because different services handle
the way people speak differently
Google seems to do best with my voice in the way I speak because I tend to speak very, very quickly. The other services, don’t do as good a job, they kind of Mangle.
things a little bit number five be regular and frequent follow the Seinfeld rule. Whenever I speak about podcasting and marketing in general I will ask the audience
unless it’s like entirely people under the age of 30, but I’ll ask the audience when was Seinfeld on them and the folks a little more gray hair and audience all also it was Thursdays at nine okay what channel NBC and I always point out to them, you know, you still know this. This is almost 20 years is more than 20 years later now Seinfeld went off the air in 1997. Why do you still know when Seinfeld was on because it was great content and it was on regularly and frequently. So those those rules your contents got to be good but also should be regular and frequent and scheduled so that if your show is good people know when to expect it. People know when to look for it. And one of the signs of success for podcasting blogging any form of content more.
Really is if you miss an episode someone least someone hopefully a lot of someone’s all go Hey, where’s this week’s thing where is it
that shows that you’re doing it right, because people want it and they miss it and they know when it’s supposed to be there. Number six, great content follows the three he rule content has to be engaging educational or entertaining one of those three things has to be true in order for content to be good. Ideally, that’s all three if you can if you can hit entertain engage and and educate all at the same time you’ll do great content if your content has none of those No one’s going to listen to the show.
Number seven podcast is always worried about the tools worry about the audience focus on growing your audience
unless you have a defined audience from the start, like say employee is just doing an employee podcast that you know you that you don’t have to worry about growing it.
beyond the confines of your company, but if you’re trying to grow it for marketing purposes worry more about getting audience and worry about the tools. What microphone you should be using really important number eight expect to pay for ads to support your show, unless you already have massive brand equity. Now if Walmart or Amazon
wants to roll out a podcast and they want to, you know, put it on the front page of their respective websites, guess what they’ll have a million subscribers tomorrow easy
but for everybody else we can’t do that real another good example. Will Smith when he started his Instagram account 10 million subscribers almost immediately why because he’s entertaining engaging
and sometimes educational but he has massive brand equity. He had no trouble getting that because people already love him. Most of us are not that situation. Most of us are not Will Smith, so expect to pay for ads. The idea that you can use social media unpaid alone to grow your podcast isn’t going to happen anymore.
have to use advertising the cheapest advertising right now is display through really good DSP and Facebook and Instagram. That’s where you’re going to find the the lowest cost advertising. As of April 2018, so that will will change over time. So always be on the lookout for where the the next easy to access audiences number nine measure your podcast with Google Analytics and traffic to your podcast website downloads are not useful. They are no longer useful tool because so many services will grab the raw audio file, but they will then cash, they will keep a copy of it so that they can serve it up to, subscribers without having to re download and hit your server over and over again. And so that’s not a reliable measure of your shows growth, it’s, it can be directional but it’s still not great Google Analytics and traffic to your podcast website or to your podcast page on your corporate website.
The way to go because you can see how many people are actually showing up there
and that’s a good a much better barometer plus if you focus on traffic to the podcast website, then you will get all of the attribution that for all your other conversion goals like you know form fills and things on your website that come from have it using Google Analytics as the standard the gold standard for measurement finally number 10 the most powerful tool that you can build with your podcast for your podcast is your email list your podcast should have an email newsletter, it should go out every time a new episode goes out, it should contain the show notes for that episode and
growing that list is your secondary Business School, whatever your primary business goal is that everyone that’s still obviously the most important form bills, whatever, but the secondary goal should be getting people to subscribe to an email list because again you can measure that you can identify it.
Visual people with that and that is an asset that everybody in marketing can use it is you know the the sales team can use it the CRM can use it. Your retargeting and remarketing lists can use it. And so
an email is just an absolutely essential part of building your podcast so great question. JOHN def in terms of what tips you need to start a podcast. These are the starting 10 there was an entire universe of podcast marketing out and I’ll put a link in in the show notes to a blog post series that I wrote as well. So make sure that you check out the notes to this episode as always thank you for watching this is subscribe to the audio for this as a podcast as well. And I’ll put a little link in the notes to that as well. Thanks for watching as always subscribe to the YouTube channel an email newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.
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