Laura asks, “Say you wanted to drive A LOT of traffic, organically, in a white hat way. what would you do first? where would you guest post or comarket or???”
It really depends on your goals and the quality of the traffic you intend to drive. If you, for some reason, just need to pad your traffic numbers, the white hat way is to commission a bot network and just have bots hit your site all day. That will have ZERO business impact for obvious reasons. If you need high quality traffic, then the best thing to do is, after setting up your goals and tracking, do some serious audience research. What sites does your audience consume? Watch the video for full details.
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In today’s episode, Laura asks, say you wanted to drive a lot of traffic organically in a white hat way, what would you do first? Where would you guest post or co market or etc? It really depends on the quality of traffic you intend to drive. So one of the most important things you need to have in place is, what are you trying to measure? Do you really just want clicks to your website, I mean, the white hat way to do that would be just commission a button network to hit your site all day, from varying random locations, I will have zero impact 00 impact on your website for obvious reasons, because they won’t be a single human out there, but would make the traffic numbers go up? That’s generally a poor strategy. If you need quality traffic, you have to determine first, what is that traffic worth? What goals do you want them to achieve? How we going to track it with something like Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager. And then the way to get traffic out of that is to build a program that gets the traffic from where, you know, it lives, to where you need it to go. Modern public relations is where should be that what tends to happen with things like guest posting or co marketing or PR is that we focus we have a tendency to focus on where we think people are, instead of paying attention to where they actually are. One of the things that I like doing in audience analysis is look at where people are spending their time. And you can do this through a variety of tools, Facebook, Audience Insights, Google Analytics data from your own Google Analytics data to see where you’re already getting traffic from. using social media research tools, like talk Walker, where are people? Where is your audience spending their time? And then from there? Do your research, what publications do they share? What where do they leave comments, all those things? And then kick it up a level and say, okay, you know, where your audience lives, and you know, where you’re getting your traffic from, you know, where they spend their time. Now go to a competitor? What’s a competing company, or event or whatever? And where did where does their audience spend their time? Where does their audience get their information from, and then go after those publications, those sites, those guest blogs, those podcasts. It’s not difficult work to do. It’s just in a lot of cases, laborious work to do. But it’s how you figure out where you’re going to get your, your real growth from. So for example, take my site, or my company site, trust insights.ai. Who is in my who’s in our audience? Well, a lot of it is based on a personal mailing list, who mentions us who comments at us and so on and so forth? grab their information from again, social media monitoring tools, what publications did the did our audience share? Cool. Now we’ve got a list of places that we should be guest posting, or pitching or running marketing programs, or even in an ad system, like for example, stack adapt, or Google ads, or any Display Network Really? Whose site can we advertise on? based on where our audience is? Right? So if two thirds of my audience gonna make this up and say two thirds of my audience spends their time reading, comic book.com, right, is that available in one of the DSP is, can I advertise there? Because if my audience hears that, that’s where they are. And then if we go, say, again, this is purely speculative, but imagine that we see are an aspirational, competitive, like McKinsey, or Bain or BCG. Cool. Where is that audience pull that data? Where do they spend their time? Now we have that list of sources and domains, let’s go pitch those people. Let’s go get articles place there. Or if they have a podcast, see if there’s podcast audio ads available. There are really good audience research tools. I mentioned Facebook Audience Insights, there’s tons of audience research tools, research data available to you. That lets you reach an audience. If you have some budget, run some surveys, right? run some surveys and identify where your audience spends their time, ask them, What podcasts you listen to, who are your top three social media influencers, to follow, and so on and so forth, you can do that. Especially if you’ve got a mailing list. So like my personal mailing lists, close to 40,000 people now
I run a survey, I try to run a survey once a quarter to them and say, Where are you spending your time?
What?
What captures your interest? What topics Do you care about? What are your biggest pain points, and use that information to help triangulate. If you identify, for example, people say like, maybe Google Analytics is their biggest challenge. Cool. Now go back and repeat the process. You have whatever people saying about Google Analytics and social media, and what sites and blogs do they read, who should you be quoting who should be you be putting into your publications and and name checking and your social media posts to catch their attention to build the relationship to set up potential future interactions? There’s a really great book references a lot, a little out of date, but still mostly relevant called spin sucks by Ginny Dietrich, who full disclosure is an advisor by company. But one of Jenny’s rules is the rule of 10, which is do something give value to a publication or to an influencer at least 10 times over 10 weeks before reaching out so that when you do reach out, they know who you are, I they’ve heard your name, they’ve heard of you and your pitch will be much more likely to be successful. So that’s would be my strategy, going after? Where’s your audience? Spend your time? Where’s the competitors? I can spend their time what is the audience have a key topic, spend their time do that research, do that analysis, it will take a long time, right when we do this kind of research for clients is typically, you know, anywhere from a 20 to 80,000 project that takes from one to three months depending on how much detail you want to dig into. But in the end, you have an action plan, this is where you need to go, this is what you need to do. This is who you need to talk to in order to generate the kind of results that you’re looking for. So that’s, that’s the solution for driving a lot of traffic. The thing that where people go wrong is they will there’s there’s a hidden qualifier on that statement. A lot of people think how can I drive a lot of traffic for free, you can not high quality traffic, there is no free lunch anymore on the web, on search and social in anything. Today on the internet, you get what you pay for. So if you have zero dollars, you have to give tremendous value to other people to make up for the fact that you’re not giving them dollars, right you know, pile of money. Or you just if you have the pile of money, buy ads. Buy influence by sponsored content, whatever the case may be, if you have the money spend the money if you don’t have the money, you have to create the equivalent value and creating equivalent value for something like a50,000 ad spend is a lot of work. So just know that there is no free lunch period, anywhere on the internet. Those days are long gone. If you have questions, please leave them in the comments below of course and please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.
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