Author: Christopher S Penn

Get Ready With Me: Generative AI Webinar Prep, Part 4 of 5
In today’s episode, we’ll transform raw data into actionable insights, exploring how generative AI can enhance employee engagement and technological innovation in the hospitality industry. You’ll witness the power of AI in crafting practical checklists and personalized travel itineraries that cater to specific guest preferences. We’ll even delve into real-world datasets, like TripAdvisor reviews, uncovering the potential for AI-powered analysis to optimize guest experiences. Join me as we unlock the transformative potential of AI for hospitality!

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Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, this is part four of my “Get Ready With Me” series on how I prepare for a webinar using generative AI. So let’s continue.

One of the things that is challenging about the consumer, generative AI web interfaces is they often can’t handle large amounts of data in a prompt itself. The developer versions of software can; [they] will do typically a much better job of this.

So we see here now, it’s extracting out the key themes from this dataset. So we’re going to go ahead and take a screenshot of this. Now, let’s duplicate this slide and change the opacity of this. This becomes more prominent.

All right. Another example: hotels have property management software. Let’s see if we can find some — what is hotel property management software? Let’s take a look at some images. Ah, look — we have — have we got here? With this is an image of — of property management, front desk operations interface from Clock PMS, and this is room — this is room stays.

So let’s open this image in this new tab. For any kind of extraction, we want to work with a model — we want to work with something where we can extract useful information from visual [to] identity information. So let’s go ahead and save this. Let’s save our notes, create a new prompt.

“I have attached an image of the front desk operations for our hotel, from our PMS, or property management software. The image shows our capacity, which guests are booked for which rooms. Provide an analysis of our property based on the image. How are we doing in terms of keeping our rooms full?”

Now we’re going to take that image that we saved — get “run calendar view style, room occupancy, dates, high occupancy, possible trends, several rooms are locked with maintenance.”

So this is super helpful for our example. Let’s go ahead and put the navigation out so that we can — because, yeah, we’re not necessarily trying to say that we are experts necessarily in — in hotel and property management. We do want to show our attendees we’ve done our homework, and we can — and we can give them examples of, “Here’s the software that you use in your industry, and here’s how generative AI” — even if it doesn’t plug into that software — “could be made to work with that software by taking things [like] screenshots and turning [them] into useful and actionable insights.”

Let’s move on to our next section of the deck, which is going to be summarization. I like this. That’s fine. This is, “Summarized call, customer history.” I’m going to leave this in here. I’m going to swap this out. This is our example of monitoring YouTube channels. And we’re actually going to — should we do an example? We [will] do a new example of how a hotel manager might — yeah, we might want to.

So let’s do this. Let’s go to YouTube. Let’s — and let’s [search] for “hotel travel hacks”. All right. Let me go ahead and close all these other tabs because we’re going to need a list of URLs.

So we’re going to look [at] — pull out — “Cheap Hotel Hacks”, “Hotel Hacks For Smart Traveler” — all right.

So we’ve gotten a good selection of the major hacks. We’re going to take that list of videos, clean it up just a little bit here, and now, as we did earlier, let’s take out the closed captions. Okay. So, as we did before, we now have our data file of the hotel hacks that people have come up with from YouTube. So let’s go ahead and get this in here.

“Today, we’re going to summarize a collection of transcripts about hotel hacks — ways travelers can make the most of their hotel stays, save money, and do unexpected — take advantage of unexpected loopholes. Outline the hacks discussed in this collection of transcripts in outline format, ordered by priority. In descending order, priority is determined by the positive or negative impact — actually, this is the negative impact — by the negative impact on a hotel property’s revenues.”

Since our audience is obviously hotel folks, they would want to know, “What are people saying online?” And what are they saying online? “What tips are the audience being given that could negatively impact your business?”

Okay, so let’s see what [it’s] come up with for hotel hacks — hacks that directly cost hotels money in booking: cancellation, rebooking at lower rates, bidding for upgrades to first-class, using bereavement rates when you’re not going to a funeral — that’s kind of scummy. So I would definitely say that’s — that’s worth — Yeah, people are awful.

Price matching with third-party sites, finding owner-direct rentals, using corporate rates, claiming corporate rates — right — not being an employee of the company with a negotiated rate, booking mobile-only discounts, using free amenities, etc.

So yeah, this is useful for — if you were a hotel property manager, this is the kind of thing that you would want to know what people are being told about, what people — being told — what’s in their media diet that could impact your hotel chain.

Remember, we are — if we go right back to our — our key priorities list, our key priorities list is recruiting issues, brand differentiation, playing your experience kind of — technological innovation. We’re using — this falls into technological innovation and that very core [of], “Hey, we need to make more money.”

And remember, in the key priorities for hotels, [it’s] “We need to make more money.” Well, this is how you’re being cost money, and there, you may or may not want to close some of those loopholes.

Let’s see. I’m going to get rid of this slide because we don’t need it for this example. Let’s go into our fourth category: rewriting.

So NDA examples — good. The training and professional development is good. That — that one’s good. I want to do one for — to address recruiting because I think that’s important.

So let’s go to — let’s go to our — our consumer model here. Start ourselves a new chat, and say, “Let’s get our expert prompt rolling for what the Gen Z employee cares about.” So we’re essentially having the model export out its knowledge of Gen Z and the things that they care about within the hospitality industry.

Right, so we have all of these — these key areas are the things that Gen Z would care about.

Now let’s go to indeed.com. Let’s go into “hotel”. Go away. And let’s go into the Boston, Massachusetts, mark — market. We have here The Eliot Hotel. Let’s see if we can actually — “Guest Service Agent, Hilton Boston Park Plaza” — Great! Let’s take this text.

I’m going to open up a text document here. Now, rewriting from our preloaded prompt area, we’re going to make a few little changes here.

“Here’s the job description — description from Hilton Boston Park Plaza for a guest service agent. The job description is written for a generic employee. Examine the job description and then outline how well or poorly the job description addresses the specific needs and pain points of Gen Z employees.”

So that’s going to be our prompt. Let’s go ahead and feed this into Gemini and hope it doesn’t choke.

It says, “Hey, here’s things that are good: emphasis on benefits, growth opportunities, diversity, inclusion. As [for] improvement, [there’s a] lack of purpose and impact, flexibility — lack of flexibility — traditional tone, which is a big deal. [And it needs a] big career path.”

So it’s great using the information provided and the facts in the existing job description. “Rewrite the job description to be more tonally appropriate for a Gen Z employee in the hospitality industry. Confine your writing to the facts in the original job description” — because we don’t want [it] hallucinating things like benefits [that] don’t exist.

That’s not — that’s — I would say that’s an improvement. If we had more information, we could certainly have this do a better job. I would say that’s the advice that I would give to any employer is to say, “Let’s take the existing job descriptions, take the known things that the audience cares about, and have these tools do a better job of writing your stuff.”

If you look at this original text here — full job description — “one of the most historic hotels in the city” — so from old to bold. That’s a nice rewrite.

Okay. Our fifth category: classification. So this is sentiment analysis. Hmm, we have those hotel reviews, let’s do — and they’re in JSON format, which is even better. Okay, so let’s go and take our — go back to Gemini. Save this. X.

Okay, so we now have — we’ve taken our JSON content set — here’s 20 reviews. “Perform a sentiment analysis, minus five — minus five to plus five and a large data set.”

And now we have a very nice sentiment analysis. So this will go into our slide deck as an example of how to classify text, which again, will be super helpful for hotel managers to know.

Our last category is question answering. Let’s see, how do we want to tackle this? Because there’s a lot of really good examples here, but these are all very, very real estate examples of how do you answer [a] question. I’m going to keep the agent in place.

That is it for part four of my “Get Ready With Me” series. Stay tuned for the fifth and final part! See you on the next one!

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August 22, 2024
Get Ready With Me: Generative AI Webinar Prep, Part 3 of 5
In today’s episode, we’ll transform raw data into actionable insights, exploring how generative AI can enhance employee engagement and technological innovation in the hospitality industry. You’ll witness the power of AI in crafting practical checklists and personalized travel itineraries that cater to specific guest preferences. We’ll even delve into real-world datasets, like TripAdvisor reviews, uncovering the potential for AI-powered analysis to optimize guest experiences. Join me as we unlock the transformative potential of AI for hospitality!

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In today’s episode, this is part three of my “Get Ready With Me” series on how I prepare for a webinar using generative AI. So let’s get right back into it.

“Create a checklist of employee engagement strategies, tactics, and methods that an individual property manager could use to audit the property’s employee engagement practices.”

So we’re not trying to have [it] solve this for, like, all of Hilton, but if you have a general manager for a specific location, go through this checklist and say, “Okay, are we doing the basics?”

One of the things about best practices — a lot of people crap on best practices and say, “Oh, you’ll never be a leader. You’ll never be an innovator with best practices.” Well, no. This is like, get your house in order with best practices first. Get a solid, basic foundation because you can’t innovate if your basic structure is broken. If your employees hate you and your customers hate you, no amount of AI innovation is going to fix the fact that your employees hate you and your customers hate you. You need to adhere to best practices to achieve a minimum level of competence. That’s what best practices are: a minimum level of competence.

So with this checklist, we can say, “This is what goes in the presentation. You should do this.” So we’re [going to] swap out our real estate example here for a generation.

One of the things that we forget when we’re doing webinar setup is that this — this is actually valuable in and of itself. So you can take the data from something like this Gemini example, and it comes out in Markdown format. Let’s turn [it] into a PDF, and from that PDF, we should now have a hospitality engagement best practices checklist.

It’s a two-and-a-half page document, which is pretty decent. “Do these — are you doing these following things?”

Now, this is — this is a tangible benefit. This is something that you can give away in a presentation and say, “Hey, if you want to download our hospitality engagement best practices checklist, here it is.”

Anytime you’re working with generative AI — I mean, anytime you’re working with data, period, but especially with generative AI — there are all these byproducts of the work. So I’m getting ready for a webinar — a webinar. I’m building the pieces for this webinar, and this is a byproduct of it. I could take this piece of content, which is very good — it’s not groundbreaking, but it’s a good set of best practices — and it can become part of the deliverables for the webinar if I wanted to [say], like, “Hey, here’s a — here’s a thing you can grab ahold of.”

So as you’re using generative AI, don’t just use the tool and say, “Okay, I did the thing, whatever.” Capture some of its outputs and its byproducts, and make use of them. Find a way to take that thing and make use of it.

Now let’s go on through our examples here. We have some more basic examples that we are [using] commonplace. This one is an interactive example. This is — this is from the mortgage [talk] — one of how we use generative AI to create a best practice thing for technological — for, yeah, for building your own software.

An example here would be how could we use it for — if we go back to our major use cases, if I’m a property manager at a hotel, how would I — how would I demonstrate technological innovation? Maybe in generation, I could create a custom GPT or another type of service where people could interact with [it] and get ideas for visiting the area. Hotels already have this information. Go to any hotel website [and it] says, “Hey, here are the things that are of interest in our area.” But if you knew your customer really well, if you had decent data, you could build an interactive experience.

So let’s pretend — what’s a good hotel? Oh, there’s the Boston Marriott Newton. That’s a decent hotel. Hmm. Oh, The Loft — there’s The Loft near my house.

So let’s do this. Let’s build a — let’s use Gemini and start a new chat here. [Say], “Let’s plan some day trips in the Metro West Boston area. I’m staying at The Loft hotel in Framingham, Massachusetts. I’m a Gen Z traveler who is interested in experiences as opposed to more tangible purchases, and I’m really interested in off-the-beaten-path, unique experiences that avoid tourist traps. I enjoy nature and short hikes and walks. I don’t enjoy tourist traps. I don’t enjoy large crowds, and I’m not especially interested in shopping. When I dine out, I try to avoid chains and support local, independent businesses.”

Our next use case is extraction. This is a case where we’re going to want to find some data about hotel travel. Maybe we can find a dataset about hotel reviews. So we go to Perplexity, and we say, “Find a data set of hotel reviews.” And we have the Carnegie Mellon Hotel Data Set Review. We’ve got a GitHub — this is a 2020 vintage here. The Carnegie Mellon data set says 40 — 33,300.

Let’s take a look at the ZIP file here. Okay, so this is really good. This is an export of data crawled from TripAdvisor. So let’s go ahead and take a screenshot of this because this is the kind of ugly data that people would be interested in being able to parse. So we’re going to put that into our presentation here. And now let’s go to our generative AI model, start a new chat, and let’s go ahead and get — let’s get a couple of — a couple hundred rows. Good. “Something went wrong.” No kidding. I bet you can’t handle something that large.

Let’s go to — that’s it for part three of my “Get Ready With Me” series. Stay tuned for part four. See you on the next one!

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August 21, 2024
Get Ready With Me: Generative AI Webinar Prep, Part 2 of 5
In today’s episode, you’ll follow along as we continue preparing our hospitality-focused webinar, diving deep into the practical applications of generative AI. You’ll learn how to select compelling imagery, ensuring it’s both visually appealing and ethically sourced. We’ll then craft persuasive use cases around key challenges like employee engagement and brand differentiation, showing you how to tailor your message for maximum impact. Tune in to discover the secrets of creating presentations that resonate with your audience and drive real results!

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In today’s episode, this is part two of my “Get Ready With Me” series on how I prepare for a webinar using generative AI. Let’s continue.

In a lot of ways, the ways that companies and corporations tend to address legal and regulatory stuff is by trying to circumvent regulations and do so in a way that is beneficial to the corporation but at the expense of the general public.

This is true across industries. It’s not unique to the hospitality industry — it’s everyone. But in the interest of using AI ethically, we would like to discourage people from using it to manipulate the law any more than they already are. People will anyway, but I don’t have to tell them that in the webinar.

So we’ll skip past that. Brand oversaturation — this is a pretty easy one. We’re dealing with your brand and your marketing. How do you do brand positioning? How do you do stuff like that?

So this is going to be some good, useful things. So we’ve got our major issues. Let’s go back to our presentation.

Now we’re going to set up some of the use cases we talked about. So let’s talk about dealing with recruiting issues. Brand — what do I call this? Brand differentiation. Brand differentiation. Employee engagement — well, see, the thing is this is “Generative AI for Hospitality” with a focus on marketing, but I think employee engagement might be useful there to talk about that. Okay.

Recruiting issues. What else do we want to do? Experience economy and technological innovation.

So those are five major challenges, and I think we can build some decent use cases for all five of those. So let’s go ahead.

Now the next thing we’re going to need is we’re going to need some imagery to populate this. We’ll use Meta’s AI because the Meta AI generator generates some pretty decent clip art-like stuff. And very critically, for people who are concerned about the ethics of using image generation models, Meta’s models — for good or ill — are trained on data. Data from Meta and publicly available data, but data from Meta, especially things like Instagram and Facebook.

Meta can prove that people have signed the terms of service agreeing to allow Meta to train on the data that we give it. So from an ethics and law perspective, Meta’s models are probably more compliant and are not infringing on anyone’s intellectual property as opposed to, say, like Stable Diffusion or open AI, where they did not get permission to scrape images off the web. Meta got permission — perhaps not knowingly, and perhaps — as someone to say — coercively, by saying, “You can’t use Instagram if you don’t give us permission to train on your data” — but at least there is a paper trail that says, “Yes, we had permission to use all these images you uploaded to Facebook over the last 20 years to train our AI”.

So the image quality — you’ll get — you’ll see some fun stuff. But we’ll go ahead and build some — some of the art for this.

So our five areas are: recruiting issues, brand differentiation, employee engagement, experience economy, and technological innovation. So we’ll just go ahead and make some images here.

Okay, so now we’ve got our very nice little image chicklets of the different major issues that we want to talk about in this video, the webinar: recruiting issues, brand differentiation, employee engagement, the experience economy, and technological innovation.

We’re going to remove this slide on sales hacks because we don’t need it for this talk. That was for real estate and sales. Our screenshots of our major services still look pretty good, so we can skip past that. Let’s see — Watsonx — this screenshot is out of date, so it is time to update that.

Okay, this is now up-to-date. We can see that [it] has the current models that are available in Watsonx.

Something like that, you think it’s not a big deal, but it is one of those things where if you’re making a talk to an audience, and potentially in that audience is someone who has experience in the field — in this case, generative AI — it’s a good idea to make sure that there are little nods to the level of expertise that you should have for a talk. So having screenshots that are, you know, two years old in generative AI would be a pretty — a pretty obvious indicator that you haven’t updated the talk, and if the material isn’t fresh, maybe the ideas aren’t either. Keeping even just things like screenshots relatively fresh is a great idea for subtly communicating that, “Yeah, this — this thing is up to date.”

Let’s continue through. Our regular stuff on the way LLMs work is still pretty good, although I think I might want to do a new dump truck picture at some point, but not today. That’s a photo from the State Library of Victoria. That’s generated.

Let’s see — prompt engineering. So I like to do the word cloud activation here, or basically explaining how models synthesize outputs. And then we get into our three most basic screenshots, which talk about prompt length. These get updated for every single talk because it’s just a basic good idea. And we’ll talk about things like hospitality and hotel marketing.

So let’s go over to Gemini here. So in this next section, what we do is we do three different prompts. We do a very short prompt in Gemini: “What are the best practices for hotel and hospitality marketing in 2024?” and you get a very generic, bland answer.

We double the length of the prompt by being more specific: “Best practices for independent hotel chains in the New England region of the USA, especially the Boston metro area” — it’s more stuff. And you go hog wild and create a long prompt that — that sort of details what you’re doing as if you were the hotel owner, like, “Hey, here’s the stuff we’re trying out.”

Of course, you get a much more specific result. And this is all part of the section on, “Here’s how to — here’s how to use these tools, these AI models, to get better results”.

So we generate these each time, specific to the industry. We go past our RACE framework and our PAIR framework — there’s no need to update those, those are up-to-date, prompt libraries up-to-date. And that brings us to use cases, which is the next section of this.

And this is where I like to have — and I’m going to take a screenshot of our initial five challenges because we’re going to need to reference these challenges in our use case development for these slides. And it’s important to note that for — for this process of making these presentations, if we want them to be credible, if [we] want them to land with our audience, our audience has to see themselves in the presentation. We can’t just do a generic presentation. We have to use the knowledge that we’ve accrued to simulate what it would be like to be that customer, and in doing so, we’ll be able to create examples that resonate with them. And so we need to have those — those use cases handy as we — as we move ahead.

So our first example for generation — let’s reference our list. Our list is things like recruiting issues, differentiation, employee engagement, experience, economy, technological innovation. What would be a good generation example, and perhaps something on the employee engagement side of things?

So let’s create a — let’s go through a prompt of how would you generate even just some ideas for this. I’m going to start off with the PAIR framework, which is available from Trust Insights. We go to trustinsights.ai/pair — you can download a copy of the PAIR framework there.

I’m going to put in my — my canned prompt, and my prompt says, “Let’s explore best practices for employee engagement in the hospitality industry. Recognition and appreciation, development and growth opportunities, open and transparent communication, empowering employees through autonomy and decision-making, work-life balance and well-being. Common mistakes less experience issues make undressing the value of development, failing to communicate effectively, micromanaging, stifling initiative, neglecting work-life balance. Things generally believed to be true but are actually false: high salaries [equal] high engagement, it’s solely HR’s ability, responsibility, etc. Things generally believed to be false, but are actually true: tangible ROI, small gestures of appreciation to have a big impact, and so on and so forth. Lead by example, celebrate successes, empower employees to be problem-solvers, never stop learning.”

So an example for hospitality would be to generate a checklist of useful practices that would be appropriate for a hotel chain. So let’s actually go ahead and ask for that. So my prompt here is from these best practices and our conversation so far.

That is it for part two of my “Get Ready With Me” series. Stay tuned in the next one for part three.

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August 20, 2024
Get Ready With Me: Generative AI Webinar Prep, Part 1 of 5
In today’s episode, you’ll join me as we dive into the world of hospitality and explore how generative AI can revolutionize the industry. You’ll discover the power of language models like Google’s Gemini to analyze vast amounts of data, uncovering key challenges and potential solutions. We’ll uncover surprising insights from industry podcasts and see how AI can be applied to address labor shortages, shifting consumer trends, and more. Tune in to gain a competitive edge in the ever-evolving world of hospitality!

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Christopher Penn: This week, we’re going to do a multi-part series on getting ready for a webinar using generative AI tools, a bunch of different data sources, and things like that. I figured we’d do kind of like a “get ready with me” video series — except that instead of putting on makeup and trying on clothes, we’re going to get data, process it, fry it on, and convert a previous webinar into the webinar that we’re going to be doing this week.

Like I said, this is going to be a multi-part series. We’re going to talk about using generative AI tools to quickly adapt a presentation and make sure that it’s relevant for the audience. So this week, Trust Insights is putting on “Generative AI for Hospitality”. Hospitality in this case refers to hotel and hotel-like businesses and the kinds of things that they would need to be doing to attract and retain customers.

So broadly speaking, when I adapt a presentation, I take the existing shell of a presentation and I change the parts that are industry-specific. Let me go through here and show you very briefly what’s in the average presentation.

You have housekeeping. You have the major issues facing that industry, some explanation about how generative AI works, and some basic examples of prompting. Then we get into the use cases: the major use cases — generation, extraction, summarization, rewriting, classification, and question answering.

This is the portion of the presentation where I try to have as many industry-relevant examples as possible, going through and identifying what those are and demoing them. After that, you have “when should you use AI”, “when should you not”, some of the warnings about AI, some of the challenges that will be specific to that industry about generative AI, and then, of course, preparing your career.

So that’s the general flow of this presentation. It’s really well-structured to be able to pick up one portion of it and switch it out with the other. I also go through and make sure we change out screenshots of things as technologies evolve so that it’s current and not showing stuff that’s wildly out of date.

So this is hospitality. The current deck we’ve got here is a real estate one, which obviously is not at all the same thing. So the first thing we need to do is — in the presentation, I like to start each one talking about the challenges facing an industry. So we’re going to change this to “key challenges facing hospitality”. Get rid of the previous generated images, all of which are generated with Meta AI.

Now we need to figure out what the challenges facing the hospitality industry are. There are some that are perpetual. “Heads in beds” is perpetual. It’s what the hospitality industry does. Companies are always looking for how to increase the number of heads in beds, how to increase the profitability of said heads in beds, and how to reduce expenses for serving those heads in beds without necessarily compromising quality.

However, there are specific issues to this industry that we would want to know. How do we go about doing this? Well, we’re going to need two things. First, we’re going to need a snapshot of the industry itself. Second, we’re going to need an ideal customer profile of the major players in the industry: what challenges they are facing.

How do we get that? Well, it turns out one of the best sources for understanding an industry is that industry’s podcasts. Every industry has got a podcast of some kind right now because podcasting is absurdly crazy. Most podcasts sensibly and correctly have stuff on YouTube.

So for the hospitality industry, this is [a] great show called “No Vacancy”. They are up to like episode 892. It’s a weekly show, and they publish a lot of content about the hotel and hospitality industry.

What we want to do is use the closed captions data from maybe this year’s episodes, feed that to a language model, and ask it to just summarize, aggregate, and synthesize what the major issues are. There are ways to do this individually, but you can also — and probably should — do this programmatically.

What I’ve done is I’ve gone and grabbed just the closed captions files — not the audio or the video — for this year’s episodes. Let’s go ahead and clean this up. Now we need to get this into a format that generative AI is capable of processing. This right here is very messy. These are VTT files, VTT transcript files. VTTs are marked up. You can see inside of one, there’s all this extra stuff. Good news is it’s relatively easy to convert that. So let’s go ahead and convert that in Python.

Okay, so what we’ve got now is we’ve taken our files, we’ve gone through the transcripts and gotten all that VTT stuff out so that they’re normal text files, and then consolidated them down into one single text file that’s called “main data” here. You can take a look here and see how it looks. It looks really okay. You can see there’s markup in these files that denotes what episodes or what.

Okay, so now after all is said and done, we’ve taken our huge folder of VTT files. Each one has been cleaned up to remove the VTT formatting, and then each file now has been consolidated into one big text file. You can see the episode title, the transcript from that episode, and then this file goes on for 434,000 words, which is quite a lot. But this is basically the last eight months of this podcast.

Our next step is we need to boil down these eight months into something that is a little more digestible. So let’s go ahead and bring up Google’s Gemini language model. Gemini is my preferred model for this use case because we need the very large context window. Gemini can hold up to 2 million tokens, which is about 1.5 million words. We saw that our transcript file here is 434,000 words. That is about 600,000 tokens. So that means a tool like ChatGPT can’t handle this size data; it has to be something like Gemini.

The first thing we want to do is understand what’s in this file. Let’s give this a prompt that helps us sort of highlight the issues in the hospitality industry. My prompt here is: “You are a hotel and hospitality management expert. You know hotels, customer care, and running a hotel business. Your first task is to read through these transcripts of issues facing the hospitality industry. Once you’ve read through them, outline the issues in outline format. List this in descending order by priority. An issue has the highest priority if it will substantially increase or decrease revenue for a hotel or hospitality company.”

So this is 549,000 tokens. We’re going to go ahead and let Gemini do its thing. Okay, in less than 90 seconds — less than a minute and a half — we’ve had Gemini go through eight months of this podcast to get an understanding of the hotel and hospitality industry.

So in descending order of priority, our major issues are:
- Financial and operational challenges: a profitability squeeze as labor costs and insurance costs go up, continued resistance in ADR — I don’t know what that means, so let’s take — let’s see if we can figure out what ADR means in the context of hotels — average daily rate. Oh, so the price of the hotel. Continued increases in average daily rate may face consumer pushback, leading to revenue stagnation. Yeah, the prices are too high. High-interest rates impacting financing, tight lending environment, deferred capital expenditures, pressure to catch up on deferred maintenance and renovations while facing higher costs. Solutions and opportunity: revenue enhancement, cost optimization, strategic partnership.
- Labor challenges: talent acquisition, retention, difficulty finding qualified workers, employee turnover, changing employee expectations. Younger generations prioritize work-life balance, flexibility, and purpose-driven work, requiring adaptation and company culture and benefit offerings. Solutions: enhanced recruitment strategies, improved engagement and retention, flexible scheduling, benefit packages that cater to employees’ needs. Give employees aid to see autonomy in their roles.
- Shifting consumer trends: experience economy, the rise of alternative lodgings, a focus on sustainability, technology-driven expectations. Guests expect seamless tech-enabled experiences requiring hotels to integrate technology thoughtfully and efficiently. Blurring of business and leisure travel lines between businesses leads to becoming increasingly blurred, requiring hotels to cater to blended travel needs — that is true.
- Solutions and opportunities like legal and regulatory challenges.
- Targeted legislation over-reliance on hospitality for societal issues.
- Brand oversaturation: major hotel companies launching new brands leads to confusion. Brands struggle to clearly define their unique value proposition.
This is a really good, helpful snapshot of the entire hospitality industry and the things that people who are in this industry might be facing.

Knowing this, we can now start to think about, well, what — if anything — would applications be where we could add generative AI capabilities for it. So for example, labor costs and property taxes and the cost of consumables — yeah, there’s no hotel going to be able to use generative AI to address those issues. Average daily resistance — daily rate resistance, consumer pushback — you might be able to do [something] on the marketing front explaining what a consumer gets for their money. So we’re going to bookmark that as something [of] potential interest. Interest rates — can’t do anything about that. Can’t do anything about [the] lending environment or capex. Labor challenges, difficulty finding qualified workers — so labor shortage, this is a big one where, if you were to go into job boards for how companies are trying to hire hotel workers or look at the recruitment strategies, you might find that the way that they’re marketing working in a hotel could use some improvements. So we’re going to put a pin in that for areas where generative AI could be useful.

Let’s take a look at shifting consumer trends: experience economy, alternative lodging, sustainability. A lot of these are travel trend things. This is a case where generative AI could be enormously helpful by listening to consumers at scale and being able to adapt your marketing and adapt your product, your product offerings, using generative AI.

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Be very cautious of AI search results tools.

Not that it’s a bad idea to think about how your brand is positioned within language models like GPT-4o (the model that powers ChatGPT today), Claude, or Gemini, but because it’s a nearly impossible task to make that determination.

If You Don’t Feel Like Getting Into The Weeds

Today’s newsletter is going to be very technical so here’s the TL;DR:

Using “AI optimization” tools to determine your “AI SEO” is a bit of a fool’s errand because AI models do not work the way search engines do. If you want to influence AI models, the best thing you can do is publish very high volumes of very high quality content – in other words, traditional SEO. The main difference is that instead of links as the gold standard of measurement, it’s appearances around the public web.

That’s it. Go home. See you next week.

…now, if you’d like to stick around for the detailed explanation, grab your libation of choice, find a comfortable position, and let’s dig into the weeds.

Part 1: How AI Models Work

To learn why trying to measure our findability in AI models is a bit of a fool’s errand, we first need to know how these things work. As a reminder, a model is the engine of today’s generative AI tools. Services like ChatGPT use models like GPT-4omni under the hood.

When these models are built by deep-pocketed technology companies, they’re trained on massive amounts of text data, 7-10 petabytes of text, mostly extracted from the public web. To give you a rough sense of how much text that is, all of William Shakespeare’s plays fit inside roughly 5.4 megabytes. 7 petabytes is 1.3 billion copies of Shakespeare’s works. If each volume is about 3 inches tall, 7 petabytes is a stack of Shakespeare’s books that circles the equator twice.

That’s how much text you need to train today’s models. It’s also why only a few companies can make state of the art foundation models – it costs millions of dollars in time and hardware just to digest that amount of text.

The first part of the process is breaking down words into tokens, little three and four letter fragments of words.

Then, every token is turned into a number.

Then, every token’s position is compared to every other token’s position in a massive statistical database. That’s what is under the hood in every large language model: a big pile of statistics. The way I recommend people think about this conceptually is to think about word clouds. In any given piece of text, what’s the word cloud for EVERY WORD in that text? That’s essentially what’s going on, conceptually. (Mathematically, that’s not true but no one wants to do linear algebra in a newsletter)

When we ask a model something, using a prompt, the model breaks down our question into tokens, then goes into its library and fetches all the word clouds it can find that match those tokens.

For example, suppose you looked at all the word clouds on the Internet around the term Starbucks. You would see words like coffee and tea. You would also see thousands of other words. That’s what is inside a large language model. When we give a model a prompt, what comes back are the most related words (actually tokens, but words is fine for this conceptually) that the model maker’s software has seen all over the Internet.

This is why attempting to measure a brand’s presence in a language model is a bit of a fool’s errand. It’s not like regular SEO, where you can see how web pages relate to each other through links. Instead, every part of every word is related to every part of every other word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, and document.

Part 2: How People Behave

The technical obstacles to measurement are tough enough to deal with. However, there’s an additional wrinkle. In old school SEO, we pay attention to things like words. You’ll still see things like keyword lists floating around, and keyword planning tools. Those are fine when you’re measuring links and checking the text of words in links as a way to determine what a page is authoritative about.

All that goes out the window in generative AI, because that’s not how people talk to AI. People don’t type in things like:

“Trust Insights consulting” or “management consulting firm”

They ask real questions and have real conversations: “Give me a list of recommended management consulting firms that specialize in healthcare in the Boston area,” and “Who is Trust Insights and what do they do?” And “What’s a good recipe for guacamole for people who are allergic to citrus?”

You might think, “Oh, then we can just ask common questions and measure how often we come up in responses, right?”

Except, going back to part 1, every word gets tokenized when we prompt a model. The more words, the more tokens, and the more specific and clear the response… and the harder it is to predict what people themselves are going to type into an AI model, and the more likely it is the model is going to return different results.

Here’s an example. Suppose I type in:

“Who is Trust Insights and what do they do?”

I’ll get a response from Google’s Gemini model that looks like this:

Now, suppose I type:

“What does Trust Insights do and who are they?”

Before we look at the results, it should be clear that these are basically the same question. We should get basically the same answer, right?

Nope.

These are wildly different answers. Both are factually correct, but you could not easily predict what the answers would be. If you’re trying to measure even whether or not your brand is in an AI model, you can see how complicated this could get.

Why does this happen? Remember that the way these models work, they take into account the order in which words appear when they’re first trained.

The order of words matters. In search engines, in traditional search, word order matters very little because it’s a much different language technology. In language models, word order and even seemingly unimportant words can trigger different token activations and lead to very different results.

Imagine how problematic this becomes when an informational query like “Recommend some top consulting firms in the Boston area” and “Recommend some Boston area top consulting firms” yields totally different results. Good luck measuring your brand presence on every possible way of wording informational queries.

Part 3: A Cornucopia of Models

Okay, so the conversational nature of generative AI means it’s very, very difficult to predict what an AI model will even say, much less measure our brand strength in it. Let me add an even bigger wrinkle.

There are many, many more models in generative AI than there are in traditional search. In traditional search, you mainly have to worry about ranking well in Google. In generative AI, you have a much, much wider field. Here are just a few:
- Google’s Gemini powers Gemini (the app) as well as Google’s AI Answers and every other place they try to stuff Gemini.
- GPT-4omni powers ChatGPT and the many, many companies that have built their infrastructure on OpenAI’s platform, like Hubspot’s ChatSpot.
- Anthropic’s Claude models power a variety of writing apps as well as their own web app.
- Meta’s Llama family of models power Meta AI and the AI search in all of Meta’s apps like Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Messenger.
- Mistral’s family of models power apps and services around the world but especially in the EU.
And there are many, many, many more. You can see and test the top 89 (yes, 89) in LMsys’ Chatbot Arena:

Any company or tool saying they can measure your brand’s presence in AI had better be able to query at least these major models, not to mention the tens of thousands of smaller models that are in production, like IBM’s Granite in WatsonX.

In fact, IBM WatsonX is a great example of how challenging even answering the question of AI presence can be. People building enterprise apps on that platform can choose from over a dozen different models. If you want to influence large enterprises using the WatsonX system, you’d need to influence each of those models.

If any company or piece of software is telling they can measure your brand’s presence in an AI model, and it can return that result in less than a day, they’re lying. There’s no kind way to put it. They’re lying. You would need to query dozens, if not hundreds of different ways of asking a model questions about your brand, tens of thousands of different ways to ask questions about your industry or niche, and ask those questions of at least half a dozen, if not more models. Chatbot Arena, one of the top sites for testing and measuring models, has 89 top models to test. Even fully automated, you’re not getting that answer in under a day, and certainly not for free. The compute costs alone would be in the hundreds of dollars just for one model.

Part 4: Ground Truth

Most generative AI services that offer consumer interfaces have started creating grounding in their software; that is, the software gets answers from the model and then essentially fact checks them with website data, typically from search engines. Meta’s AI model does this. ChatGPT does this. Google’s Gemini does this.

Which means… while people may not necessarily use search engines the way they used to or as much as they used to, optimizing your content for search engines is still vitally important. Showing up in search engines means that when an AI model is unsure about its answer, if the model has the ability to call tools (like web searches), it’s going to ask the nearest search engine.

Those sites and pages that do well in legacy, traditional search will be the points of reference for AI models that are checking their own work, which is a polite way of telling you not to fire your SEO team just yet.

Part 5: So What Do We Do?

Let’s get to the So What? as Katie Robbert likes to say. Okay, we effectively cannot measure our brand presence in an AI model because the architecture of the model simply makes that infeasible.

But what we can do, what we know how to do, is create content on the Internet that’s available for models to learn from. Almost every AI company making models uses some or all of the Common Crawl archive of public web pages as the base data for its model training. Common Crawl is a regularly updated massive archive of text, 6.2 petabytes as of the last crawl, and is something you can – if you have the disk space – inspect yourself to see what’s inside. You can download portions of it and see what part of your website has been scraped. You can see what news outlets, what blogs, what podcasts, etc. are inside their archive – and by extension, inside the training data for language models.

We can and should be creating high quality, high volume content everywhere we can. Make YouTube videos at scale – we know for sure companies like NVIDIA have scraped millions of hours of YouTube video for their model training. I am almost 100% confident OpenAI has scraped the same from YouTube, because in their voice transcription model, Whisper, it recognizes and tags my voice in audio

We should be creating content in all the places we know scrapers go, and AI models go to obtain training data. Github. StackExchange. Reddit. YouTube. Local news sites. Substack. Various social networks.

And finally, but probably most important, we should be building brand like crazy. You should be building your personal brand by being in as many places as you feasibly can be. You should be publishing guest content wherever you can. You should be on every podcast that will have you. You should be joining livestreams and being on any YouTube channel you can be.

We want models to train on our names and our topics from as much text as possible, which means we need to create that text in as many places on the Internet as we can. However, instead of chasing inbound links as we used to in SEO, now we’re just chasing placements, period. Believe it or not, this is where public relations firms and teams could make a huge difference for their companies. The best firms and teams excel at getting media placements, so their strategy just has to pivot from “we want top tier media” to “we’ll take any media we can get”.

You Can’t Reasonably Measure AI Brand Strength

The bottom line is this: yes, you can measure your brand’s placement in AI, but it’s a time-intensive, compute-intensive, very expensive process to do so if you do it well. (it’s free and easy if you want inaccurate, incorrect answers)

However, you can absolutely measure the impact of AI on your business using the gold standard of measurement: asking people how they learned about you. There is no substitute for this, there never has been, and when done properly, will always be a timeless, valuable source of marketing attribution.

If you’d still like to try measuring brand strength in AI and feel like lighting a lot of money on fire, my company Trust Insights will try to talk you out of that but will still do it if you absolutely insist..

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Christopher Penn: This is part four in our series on how to avoid generative AI altogether. My friend and colleague Mar asked, “How do I avoid generative AI? Particularly, how do I protect my data? How do I not use this stuff?”

It’s getting complicated because more and more vendors are seeing the marketing impact of saying, “Hey, we’ve got AI in our product.”

In part one, we talked about legal stuff. In part two, we talked about infrastructure. In part three, we talked about software. In part four, this part, we’re going to talk about marketing and content protection.

Number one, you need to move to self-hosted marketing platforms: things like the Matomo, the Mautic system—anything that is open-source that you host on your hardware is the way you want to go. You cannot use SaaS-based services for the most part. No matter if it’s HubSpot, or Salesforce, or whoever—everyone and their cousin is building AI into their software.

In their terms of service, there’s licensing that says they may or may not be able to use this for derivative works. As I said in part three, just because a vendor today says, “We’re not using AI,” they are one acquisition away—one new private equity [investment] away—from saying, “Hey, we need to monetize everything. Let’s sell all the data.” Only if you own the infrastructure can you prevent that from happening.

Number two: average advertising has moved to AI. AI is showing up everywhere: “Generate some ad copy! Generate some images! Do this with generative AI!”

The only place you can be sure that people are not using your data to train—at least not at scale—is in non-digital advertising, advertising in the physical world. Things like billboards, bus wraps, direct mail in the customer’s physical mailbox, flyers, inserts in bank statements, pizza boxes—you name it. If there’s a non-digital solution, it is much harder and more costly for anyone to get data from the physical world into the digital world, compared to digital stuff. Non-digital advertising is a way you could market your company and not have to use—or have your data be exposed to—generative AI easily.

You will want to patronize services, apps, networks—whatever—that specifically prohibit AI. There are some—there’s one called Kara, I think that’s the name—but there are apps and ecosystems that are starting to pop up where people are like, “Yeah, we don’t want AI here.” When you see those places, that is a place for you to support, to invest in, and possibly to market in.

Generally speaking, if a company has an AI offering, you should not do business with that company. Avoid using any services from Google. Avoid using any services by Meta. Avoid using any services by Apple. You name it: if the company has an AI offering, you probably don’t want to be using their services, which—again—makes life very difficult as a digital citizen trying to avoid these things. That’s what we talked about in part three, about ad blockers and stuff cranked up to the max. It’s hard to totally prohibit having your data collected, but there are options for doing that.

There are some things you just can’t use. Google, in particular, you just cannot use Google services, period.

When it comes to protecting content, you want to make sure that your legal team (which we talked about in part one) has ammunition and can say, “Hey, we specifically said you can’t use AI.” If you see someone using your content with AI, you have grounds to stand on because you’ve made it very clear: you can’t use AI.

That means when you publish stuff online, you’ve got to block it and put CAPTCHAs up on everything. Your website is basically going to be a CAPTCHA page, which will not do good things for your SEO, but, in doing so, it prohibits crawlers from taking your content because everything’s got a CAPTCHA on it.

You need to visibly or audibly watermark all your creations. Anything that is yours: you have a watermark on it that has your brand name on it and says “AI use prohibited.” It can’t just be your watermark. It has to be “AI use prohibited” on everything you create.

There are metadata standards, like C2PA, that allow you to add metadata to content as well that says, “Here’s where this content came from,” and certifying that it’s free of AI. But you need the visible stuff, too. It says, “AI use prohibited.” Your lawyers need to be able to point to an example and say, “Hey, this person—big letters at the bottom of the video—’AI use prohibited’, and here it is inside your training data. You are violating this person’s intellectual property rights.”

The same way you can put a copyright notice on your content, you, as an owner of intellectual property, have the right to say what your content can and can’t be used for—whether someone honors it is another story, and that’s why you need a lawyer to enforce that.

But if you do that, then—if you label everything—you’ll have a much stronger position because no one can claim ignorance. No one can claim, “Huh, that big, bright set of letters at the bottom of the screen? I didn’t know what that meant when it said ‘no AI use’.”

You want to also put canary traps in everything. Canary traps are unique things in your content that, if they show up somewhere else, could have only come from you.

A simple example: a lot of image generation tools, in early versions, you could say, “Create a Getty Images watermark,” and they would create a Getty Images watermark. Getty Images was like, “If you hadn’t used our data to train, it wouldn’t know how to do that. It is replicating our watermark perfectly. It means you used our data without our permission.” That lawsuit is pending.

If you embed unique text strings in your blog posts—like “zxz7312AYM,” or something—then, when you query it, search for it, or whatever, if it shows up in any search results or in any generative AI tool, you know where it came from, because it could not have come from somewhere else. Only you would have been doing something like that.

You even need to do things like watch your email list. There are services—there’s one called Listery—where they subscribe to every newsletter they can find, and then, when that newsletter gets emailed to them, they put it up on the web. You need to block them. When you’re managing your email subscriptions, [look for] people who are subscribed to your email newsletter—you’ve got to get rid of them. You’ve got to block that domain. “You may not subscribe to this newsletter.”

That’s a lot of the marketing and content protection. As you can see, it’s a lot of work. It is a lot of effort, saying no to generative AI, and being serious about it substantially harms your marketing. There are entire categories of things you can no longer do.

You can no longer do SEO, because Google has a monopoly on search, and Google is using generative AI everywhere. You can’t do SEO. You can’t have a website that’s optimized for search, because you are prohibiting search engines from finding it. If it ends up in Google’s search catalog, of course, it’s going to end up in Google’s training data set as well.

So in the last section, we’ll talk about what all this means, how to do due diligence, and some things to think about. Stay tuned.

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