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  • You Ask, I Answer: Twitter Performance Report Metrics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Twitter Performance Report Metrics?

    David asks, “I’m working on a Twitter performance report. I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance (assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement, and not necessarily conversions). My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable – albeit imperfect – metric, since absolute numbers like retweets, likes, and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month + general seasonality. Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs do you use? Thanks in advance!”

    Social media metrics from a platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, but they rarely tell you what that platform’s impact is.

    Conversions do matter, and your report will have more long-term impact if you show how Twitter is either assisting or delivering conversions.

    That’s something Google Analytics will be able to provide once you’ve configured it correctly.

    I’d also look at Twitter’s ability to generate website traffic, as well as what Twitter’s returning user numbers to your website look like – that shows you’re delivering an audience over and over again, building loyalty.

    So new audience from Twitter (awareness), returning audience from Twitter (engagement), and conversions from Twitter, either as leads/sales or as alternate sales (like newsletter subscribers) will really demonstrate the impact you’re looking to show.

    You Ask, I Answer: Twitter Performance Report Metrics?

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    In today’s episode, David asks, I’m working on a Twitter Performance Report, I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement and not necessarily conversions.

    My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable.

    I’ll be imperfect metrics since absolute numbers like retweets, likes and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month plus, General seasonality.

    Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs Do you use Thanks in advance, okay.

    Conversions do matter.

    You’re going to find that the report is of a lot less interest to people if it does not talk about how you’re helping support the business.

    So let’s get that out of the way.

    First, your report has to address conversions if it doesn’t.

    It will be you will be asked to at some point, take care of that upfront when it comes through social media platforms, the metrics from the platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, right? They tell you this tweet work, that tweet did not work, or this many people started following you because of that tweet.

    social media platforms rarely ever tell you what that platforms impact is to your business.

    The exception to that rule is Facebook’s analytics and don’t particularly like or trust those.

    You’re going to want to look at this social media platforms impact on the rest of your business through a tool like Google Analytics.

    Now, should you keep looking at this case, Twitter analytics and diagnosing what’s working what’s not? Absolutely, absolutely.

    But for the impact side, you’re going to want to look at Google Analytics, you’re going to want to look at your marketing automation system.

    You’re gonna want to see what happened after somebody engaged from With your tweets and stopped by website, and maybe did something of value.

    So conversions absolutely matter.

    All that has to come through Google Analytics to start with.

    So make sure you’ve got it set up correctly, that you’ve got Twitter identified as social media, that you’re not dropping attribution.

    Make sure that you’re doing things like using UTM tracking codes on links that you share on Twitter to other to your website so that again, you can properly attribute the any of the activity data you see in Google Analytics, back to Twitter.

    So what metrics should you be looking at? Well, think about the marketing operations follow awareness, engagement, conversion, and conversion.

    conversion.

    Remember, the conversion does not need to be, hey, I bought something right now.

    Right? Especially for b2b rarely going to happen, someone’s going to buy an expensive service conversion.

    Could be a lead generated a conversion could be a shopping cart started, right? A conversion can be someone signing up for your email newsletter and giving you the ability to reliably reach them.

    So all those things I think are valuable and vital conversions.

    program goes into Google Analytics, make sure it’s tracking them.

    And then you can start to see Twitter’s real impact.

    The metrics that I would look at if I was going to put together a Twitter report today that demonstrated the impact of Twitter would be just the top line metrics on the platform.

    As you outlined, your addressable audience that you reached the engagement on Twitter, and then new users to your website from Twitter, how is Twitter doing at generating new audience giving you the ability to reach out and bring people in to your conversion engine right your website.

    If that number is zero, then Twitter is definitely not having any impact on your business, beyond maybe brand awareness, but it’s not delivering butts and seats or heads and beds or people walking in the door, because they’re not even interested enough to click through on the links that you share that go back to your website.

    So new users is the first one second metric that everybody forgets about is returning users.

    People forget about returning users, returning users, or people who have coming back to the website, they found something of sufficient value that they like, okay, I keep coming back.

    I’m gonna keep reading your blog posts, I’m going to keep doing these things.

    And they’re doing it from Twitter that’s showing you that your Twitter audience is engaged is paying attention to you.

    And then when you share something new, like a new blog post, or a new white paper or a new announcement about a product, and it gets people to come back.

    That’s a good thing.

    That means that your Twitter audience is loyal to you.

    And you want to compare it to say like your Facebook audience and they return to users.

    Some things to see.

    Does Twitter do a better job than average of bringing people back? And third are those conversions? Right newsletter signups email marketing, signups lead generation, prospect generation, whatever the thing is that your business does with its website.

    If you’re using good web analytics software like Google Analytics or Adobe analytics or whatever, you want to be able to see how did Twitter contribute to those conversions? It will not necessarily be a last thing right or not a sob.

    Hey, they came from Twitter, they bought a Gulfstream jet like that, that doesn’t happen.

    Or if it does happen to you’re very, very lucky.

    But did they sign up for your email newsletter, hey, there’s value in that.

    And you can talk another time about calculating the value of your email newsletter, subscribers, but in doing so, You can now say, hey, Twitter is pushing measurable business impact into your pipeline, your sales pipeline of some kind.

    Because again, your job, particularly with those very top of the funnel activities, like social media marketing, is not to try and sell somebody something it is to try and nudge them into the next logical step in your marketing operations follow, and then that takes on doing its job.

    So Twitter gets you that awareness and bringing some new audience to the front door.

    And then when somebody walks in the front door, it’s up to the website to get them to take the next step to raise the hand and say, I’m interested in learning more, and so on and so forth.

    If you can show that with your Twitter report, you’re going to do really well in impressing people that hey, this is a channel that matters.

    This is a channel that delivers people that are interested Potentially qualified even to our sales mechanisms to do our ability to generate revenue.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    You may find that when you put together a report like that, that Twitter doesn’t generate impact for you.

    For some companies, it’s not the place for other companies.

    It absolutely is the place it depends on your audience.

    But when you do this report, expect the unexpected.

    And also expect people to ask Okay, this was great.

    Can you do this for LinkedIn, for Facebook, for Pinterest for Instagram? And even if nobody asks you for that, you should plan to do that so that you can compare apples to apples with the same types of numbers from Google Analytics, what channel is delivering real results? Where should you spend your time? If the answer is no Facebook or Instagram or you YouTube, then you know that once you establish that then you can change your strategy you can change your ad spend, you can pivot your tactics to where you’re getting the juice.

    Alright, so that’s what I would say goes in that that Twitter report yes the top line metrics, and then your marketing operations funnel data from your web analytics that say here is the impact of this platform.

    If you have follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon take care.

    One helps solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

    Visit Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you In today’s episode, David asks, I’m working on a Twitter Performance Report, I’m trying to determine the best metric for demonstrating our performance assuming the thing that matters for the moment is engagement and not necessarily conversions.

    My feeling is that engagement rate could potentially be the most valuable.

    I’ll be imperfect metrics since absolute numbers like retweets, likes and replies can fluctuate based on how many times we tweet in a given month plus, General seasonality.

    Is that a fair assumption? What KPIs Do you use Thanks in advance, okay.

    Conversions do matter.

    You’re going to find that the report is of a lot less interest to people if it does not talk about how you’re helping support the business.

    So let’s get that out of the way.

    First, your report has to address conversions if it doesn’t.

    It will be you will be asked to at some point, take care of that upfront when it comes through social media platforms, the metrics from the platform tell you what you’re doing right or wrong on that platform, right? They tell you this tweet work, that tweet did not work, or this many people started following you because of that tweet.

    social media platforms rarely ever tell you what that platforms impact is to your business.

    The exception to that rule is Facebook’s analytics and don’t particularly like or trust those.

    You’re going to want to look at this social media platforms impact on the rest of your business through a tool like Google Analytics.

    Now, should you keep looking at this case, Twitter analytics and diagnosing what’s working what’s not? Absolutely, absolutely.

    But for the impact side, you’re going to want to look at Google Analytics, you’re going to want to look at your marketing automation system.

    You’re gonna want to see what happened after somebody engaged from With your tweets and stopped by website, and maybe did something of value.

    So conversions absolutely matter.

    All that has to come through Google Analytics to start with.

    So make sure you’ve got it set up correctly, that you’ve got Twitter identified as social media, that you’re not dropping attribution.

    Make sure that you’re doing things like using UTM tracking codes on links that you share on Twitter to other to your website so that again, you can properly attribute the any of the activity data you see in Google Analytics, back to Twitter.

    So what metrics should you be looking at? Well, think about the marketing operations follow awareness, engagement, conversion, and conversion.

    conversion.

    Remember, the conversion does not need to be, hey, I bought something right now.

    Right? Especially for b2b rarely going to happen, someone’s going to buy an expensive service conversion.

    Could be a lead generated a conversion could be a shopping cart started, right? A conversion can be someone signing up for your email newsletter and giving you the ability to reliably reach them.

    So all those things I think are valuable and vital conversions.

    program goes into Google Analytics, make sure it’s tracking them.

    And then you can start to see Twitter’s real impact.

    The metrics that I would look at if I was going to put together a Twitter report today that demonstrated the impact of Twitter would be just the top line metrics on the platform.

    As you outlined, your addressable audience that you reached the engagement on Twitter, and then new users to your website from Twitter, how is Twitter doing at generating new audience giving you the ability to reach out and bring people in to your conversion engine right your website.

    If that number is zero, then Twitter is definitely not having any impact on your business, beyond maybe brand awareness, but it’s not delivering butts and seats or heads and beds or people walking in the door, because they’re not even interested enough to click through on the links that you share that go back to your website.

    So new users is the first one second metric that everybody forgets about is returning users.

    People forget about returning users, returning users, or people who have coming back to the website, they found something of sufficient value that they like, okay, I keep coming back.

    I’m gonna keep reading your blog posts, I’m going to keep doing these things.

    And they’re doing it from Twitter that’s showing you that your Twitter audience is engaged is paying attention to you.

    And then when you share something new, like a new blog post, or a new white paper or a new announcement about a product, and it gets people to come back.

    That’s a good thing.

    That means that your Twitter audience is loyal to you.

    And you want to compare it to say like your Facebook audience and they return to users.

    Some things to see.

    Does Twitter do a better job than average of bringing people back? And third are those conversions? Right newsletter signups email marketing, signups lead generation, prospect generation, whatever the thing is that your business does with its website.

    If you’re using good web analytics software like Google Analytics or Adobe analytics or whatever, you want to be able to see how did Twitter contribute to those conversions? It will not necessarily be a last thing right or not a sob.

    Hey, they came from Twitter, they bought a Gulfstream jet like that, that doesn’t happen.

    Or if it does happen to you’re very, very lucky.

    But did they sign up for your email newsletter, hey, there’s value in that.

    And you can talk another time about calculating the value of your email newsletter, subscribers, but in doing so, You can now say, hey, Twitter is pushing measurable business impact into your pipeline, your sales pipeline of some kind.

    Because again, your job, particularly with those very top of the funnel activities, like social media marketing, is not to try and sell somebody something it is to try and nudge them into the next logical step in your marketing operations follow, and then that takes on doing its job.

    So Twitter gets you that awareness and bringing some new audience to the front door.

    And then when somebody walks in the front door, it’s up to the website to get them to take the next step to raise the hand and say, I’m interested in learning more, and so on and so forth.

    If you can show that with your Twitter report, you’re going to do really well in impressing people that hey, this is a channel that matters.

    This is a channel that delivers people that are interested Potentially qualified even to our sales mechanisms to do our ability to generate revenue.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    You may find that when you put together a report like that, that Twitter doesn’t generate impact for you.

    For some companies, it’s not the place for other companies.

    It absolutely is the place it depends on your audience.

    But when you do this report, expect the unexpected.

    And also expect people to ask Okay, this was great.

    Can you do this for LinkedIn, for Facebook, for Pinterest for Instagram? And even if nobody asks you for that, you should plan to do that so that you can compare apples to apples with the same types of numbers from Google Analytics, what channel is delivering real results? Where should you spend your time? If the answer is no Facebook or Instagram or you YouTube, then you know that once you establish that then you can change your strategy you can change your ad spend, you can pivot your tactics to where you’re getting the juice.

    Alright, so that’s what I would say goes in that that Twitter report yes the top line metrics, and then your marketing operations funnel data from your web analytics that say here is the impact of this platform.

    If you have follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Interview Marketing Interns?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Interview Marketing Interns?

    Lily asks, “I will be interviewing summer interns for our marketing department this week and I feel stumped on engaging, productive questions to ask. My usual angle of focusing on past professional experience(s) may not really apply! Any go-to questions you recommend for these types of interviews?”

    Fundamentally, what do you want to learn? Will this person work hard? Will this person be a cultural fit? Will this person be motivated to solve problems on their own? Does this person think creatively? Does this person have an aptitude that you might want to harness as an employee down the road? Even if someone doesn’t have long work experience, they have aptitudes you can look for.

    You’ll focus a lot on behaviors. If you have front desk staff, use their help to monitor how the person behaves while waiting. How did they greet the staff?

    You’ll also look at basic fit questions. Could you, for example, tolerate being stuck at an airport with this person?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Interview Marketing Interns?

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    In today’s episode Lily asks, I will be interviewing summer interns for our marketing department this week, and I feel stumped on engaging on engaging, productive questions to ask.

    My usual angle of focusing on past professional experiences may not really apply any go to questions you recommend for these types of interviews.

    So interns, not terribly different than interviewing other employees, except that they have substantially less work experience.

    That said, you still have to the same things right.

    And you’re still dealing with human beings.

    And so you have to make a list of the questions that you want answers to.

    Will this person work hard? Will this person be a cultural fit for the company without reinforcing existing biases? Will this person be motivated to solve problems on their own? Does this person think creatively Does this person have an aptitude that if their internship works out, would you want them back? Right? Would you want them back as a full time employee? Even if someone doesn’t have a lot of work experience, these are things that you can look for.

    So you got to focus on behaviors, but things like cultural fit and working hard.

    Those are pretty straightforward.

    You can ask someone tell me about a project that you worked on that didn’t go well.

    Tell me about a project on a team that didn’t go well? How did you handle it? Tell me about the experience and listen to the answers.

    Listen to the answers about how they use language.

    How much responsibility do they accept for project a team project that didn’t go well? Right? If it’s entirely Oh, it’s everybody else’s small team.

    I did my part and they didn’t.

    I don’t know if that’s necessarily a kind of person you might want on your team.

    On the other hand, if if they, you know, collapse, and and they’re like, it was all my fault.

    I’m completely useless.

    Not that I don’t think someone would say that job interview, but it is it is a nonzero possibility that that might be an outcome.

    And that’s again, somebody that you might not feel comfortable having on your team culturally.

    When it comes to things like thinking creatively, there are all sorts of interesting things you can do.

    Simple one is just give them some prompts to solve because them some theoretical, you’re interested in marketing.

    Great.

    Are you studying it in school? Tell me about how you would solve a particular product marketing problem.

    Here’s how would you make this product better? You can ask for attention to detail things things that every job candidate should logically do.

    Hey, did you go to our website? Okay, great.

    Tell me three things you liked about it.

    Tell me three things you didn’t like about it.

    You and you read in this case, you’re just asking for their opinions and How they answer those questions is just as important as what they answer them with.

    Are they willing to be honest with you and say, Well, you know that I picture the dog on the run page.

    I mean, I’m not a dog person, you know, that kind of response you’d want, you’d want to be able to see, can they give you honest opinions? One of the challenges of hiring people is that you don’t really get to know the person until you at least 90 days in because in a lot of cases, people don’t it takes people a while to be comfortable.

    And so you may actually feel comfortable with the person by the time their internship ends.

    So again, these are things you want to ask for upfront, to the extent that you can focus a lot on behaviors.

    If you have, for example, front desk staff, chat with the staff afterwards, like hey, do you remember that person? How did they behave? How did they proceed? themselves, were they polite to you? You will obviously want to be very careful about somebody who is impolite to the front desk staff.

    Right? That’s definitely not somebody that you want on your team.

    How do they treat you? Ask yourself basic personal questions, again, being aware of your own biases.

    But questions like mentally Is this a person that would feel okay with being stuck in an airport for like a six hour layover? Like, is this person like, Yeah, I don’t know that.

    I would want to spend a whole lot of time with this person, again, being aware of your own biases and, and your own preferences.

    Because one of the things that tends to happen in hiring is we tend to hire people like us.

    And that’s not necessarily a good thing.

    We actually want diverse perspectives and opinions.

    Ask them how they handle interpersonal conflict.

    Hey, when you get into a confrontation with a friend Friend, how do you productively resolve the confrontation? How do you deal with uncomfortable conversations? How do you deal with a lack of motivation? Everybody has those days when you’re like, I don’t want to get out of bed, right? Someone says I never have a problem is either very, very, very unusual person or they’re not telling you the truth because everybody has one of those days sometimes.

    Ask them, how do you motivate yourself? What are the things that you are passionate about professionally? What are the things that you are interested in personally outside of work? Again, being aware of the boundaries of what’s acceptable to ask interview questions, because there are a whole slew of questions that are either inappropriate or flat out illegal to ask.

    But you can ask all sorts of questions about your field to about marketing.

    Who are some authors you read? Right was the last marketing book you read? And what did you take away from it? What marketing blogs? Do you read? Which marketing? People do follow on YouTube? Or what slack communities are you a part of? And if you get somebody who’s like, none of these things like okay, you know, for an intern, that’s not a deal breaker, it absolutely be a deal breaker for full time employee.

    But it will help you find the, the gems in the rough, right, because somebody who is interested in marketing who is interested in the profession, who does read blogs and follow people on YouTube and stuff.

    That’s somebody who’s already self motivated.

    Right? As somebody who is a self learner.

    And those are really good things to ask for.

    And again, these are things that you need no job experience whatsoever to do.

    In fact, the way many people teach their marketing courses I’ve guest lectured for a bunch of folks they encourage their students to ask to go out and, and subscribe to blogs and newsletters and things.

    And so if you have somebody who isn’t doing that it’s like, Okay, did you? Are you here? Because you just need the job? Or you need the experience? Or is this something you’re actually interested in? And that’s really what you want to find out.

    You want to find out? Are you here? Just a punch a clock? Are you genuinely interested in learning more about the profession of marketing, because again, an internship is not a lifelong commitment by any means.

    And it is supposed to benefit the intern as much as the company through education.

    So if you are interviewing people who are frankly uninterested in their education, they’re not going to be a very good intern, and they’re not going to be a very good marketer either.

    So, identify that hunger for knowledge for learning how things work for learning the ropes for building skills, ask them Have you started or Have you completed your Google Analytics certification? Right simple things like that.

    If they’ve never heard of it, then they might be somebody who’s not necessarily gotten the best education.

    That should be an opportunity to dig further.

    And if that person’s interested, then say, yeah, you know, while you’re here, maybe you should do that.

    Or you should take that examination.

    And that that certification because it professional certification is never a bad thing.

    So lots of things you can do that are not reliant on work experience.

    I’ve got follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Impact of Google Ads?

    You Ask, I Answer: Impact of Google Ads?

    Alessandra asks, “I am running a Google Ads campaign for a customer, but results are not showing (yet). The conversions are few, thought CTR is over 7%.
    Besides analyzing ads, keywords and landing pages, what “business” considerations can I make to the client to convince him that it’s worthwhile to continue to invest in ads? What can he learn for his business from the results of the campaign?”

    How far down the marketing operations funnel can you see? Leads generated? Shopping carts filled? One of the challenges of ads is the potential disconnect once someone arrives on site – that’s where Bob Stone’s 1968 direct marketing framework helps lend a hand.

    You Ask, I Answer: Impact of Google Ads?

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    In today’s episode Alessandra asks, I am running a Google Ads campaign for a customer but results are not showing yet the conversions are few though click through rate is over 7%.

    Besides analyzing ads, keywords and landing pages, what business considerations Can I make to the client to convince him it’s worthwhile to continue to invest in ADS? What can he learn for his business from the results of the campaign? Well, the big question here is how far down the marketing operations funnel Can you see? If all you have access to his ads data, then you can basically show them that you’ve got you’re probably the right audience.

    A good offer a good creative, that’s Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework.

    But one of the challenges with ads is that there’s potential disconnect once somebody arrives on site right? Imagine Imagine have this really compelling ad for a coffee shop, right? And you do a great job of getting people interested in the coffee shop and you do a great job of getting people excited.

    And they they fire up Google Maps and they get directions.

    They go there.

    And when they get there, the sole barista that’s working there is asleep on the floor.

    All right.

    Now, did the ads fail? No, the ads did their job.

    They got people to the front door, they got people even through the front door, and then the customer experience went off the rails.

    That’s not advertisings fault.

    That is a product marketing problem.

    While it’s technically just flat out business problems.

    So the question is, is the lack of results because of conversions because of something that you did wrong in the direct marketing framework? Or is it because there’s a disconnect between the two between the ad and the experience The way to figure this out is again, look at that old framework list offer creative list these days means audience do that.

    Do you target the right audience with the ads? The people who have a high propensity of buying or retargeted based on existing conversions or look alike? Audience? If so, your list is probably in pretty good shape.

    Is the offer in the advertisement, likely to entice somebody? And this is where? What is in the ad? Is it synchronous with what happens when you get on the site? Is it a Is it an offer that makes sense as an offer that it does not feel like a bait and switch? There’s this whole bunch of these ads on Facebook that are like advertising Oh, you could you know, get a free product and then you click through and it’s like, you pay money and you leave review and then they refund your money.

    Well, that’s not free.

    Right, though, by the way that you should immediately report those ads.

    camps.

    But that’s not free.

    It’s a complete disconnect between what was promised in the advertising and what was actually delivered.

    So you want to make sure that that’s not the problem.

    And of course, there’s a creative in this case, because you’re getting high conversion rates, higher high click through rates, it’s probably not a creative issue.

    So either the advertising offer is out of sync with what the offer actually is, or you’ve got a bad experience on site.

    The way to remedy that is ideally, have access to Google Analytics, ideally have access to the data that’s happening on site.

    What happens when somebody gets to the landing page? Do they immediately bounce away? If so, you’ve got a landing page problem.

    And that’s something you should again be looking at that the the offer the creative the layout, whether it renders properly on mobile devices, the usual things you do to diagnose a landing page.

    If you don’t see a super high bounce rate, then you have to wonder is there a In fact, a problem with the audience is this product that you made some assumptions on who you’re going to advertise to.

    Are they in fact not the right audience? Right? Again, if if you advertise, say espresso drinks right and people click through and they get to the homepage and it’s it’s a coffee shop, but you are just totally going all out on your frozen summertime beverages.

    People may look at that and go well that’s not really what I came here for.

    I’m not a cold coffee drinker, I’m I’m a hot coffee drinker.

    And they may they may choose to go away because again, you’re you’re presenting something that they didn’t ask for.

    They thought they were getting one thing and then not getting it in terms of other things that other business considerations.

    One area that you can explore and it is fraught with danger if you don’t do it properly.

    You can look at branded organic search.

    So the premise is that if you are running any kind of promotion, advertising, public relations, influencer marketing, and it’s doing its job, one of the things you should see happen is synchronous with the advertising.

    And commensurate with the spend on the advertising, you should see an increase in branded organic search of some kind.

    And by that we mean looking for the company’s products or services or name.

    If I take out a whole bunch of ads for my company Trust Insights.

    And I just go all out on paying cpms.

    I don’t care about click throughs.

    I just want to I just want people to know the name of the company.

    If the ads are effective, I should see a commensurate uptick in the number of searches for Trust Insights in organic search because again, people are aware of This company, hopefully, it has piqued their interest.

    Hopefully they have gone to click through and and are gonna search for us.

    Now I say that’s fraught with difficulty because it requires statistical analysis requires you to be able to do cross correlation functions to see, not only is there a relationship, but what is the time lag on the relationship? And is the time lag on the relationship synchronous with what happens for unpaid efforts.

    Those are challenging questions to ask for folks who don’t have a statistical background.

    So it’s something you have to keep in mind.

    But that is an additional business consideration you can look at, do you see? brand organic search, marching in lockstep with the paid advertising you’re doing? At the end of the day, though, it all comes down to conversion.

    If the conversions are not happening, that’s the number one priority, figure out why the conversions aren’t happening.

    Make sure that if you don’t have one in place, all right And you’re spending a decent amount of money, you may want to consider a website satisfaction survey, one of those four key ones that ask simple questions like, did you accomplish the task that you set out to when you came to the site today? Right? And you run it and targeted only on people only on the landing page with the ads, so that you can ascertain.

    Is there something on the experience side of the site that is preventing you from being able to pregnant the customer from being able to do what they wanted? If so, that then tells you it’s a customer experience problem and not an advertising problem.

    You can also ask, you know, you can’t new came to this page from an advertisement did this page fulfill the ad, the ads promise again, if you get feedback, saying Nope, it didn’t, then you know, you’ve got a disconnect between those two.

    So I would say focus on the diagnostic side to figure out why your click through rate is high, but your conversion Right is, is non existent, that’s going to be able to help you understand what’s going on with the advertising.

    And if the customer is not interested in running additional ads, at least you can take those best practices and put them towards the next customer.

    Maybe make it a part of the campaign that’s integrated, so that you’re running those diagnostics from the very beginning and you’re, you’re understanding how it is that people are finding the experience between the ad and the action that you want them to take.

    If you have follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Hiring a Director of Digital Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Hiring a Director of Digital Marketing?

    Margaret asks, “A friend of mine is looking to hire a Director of Digital Marketing, hoping to expand an existing company and their online presence/optimization/customer reach. What are some absolute musts for a job posting, and what would you consider overkill?”

    Start with the outcome. What are they expected to generate? Leads? Audience? Awareness? What’s the KPI that will get them a bonus or fired? Once you know that, work backwards to determine the necessary skills that are an appropriate fit for your company. Be a good partner to the candidate – tell them the goal and ask them how they’ll achieve it. That will do more for you than an arbitrary list of skills that may or may not get the outcome you want.

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    In today’s episode, Margaret asks, a friend of mine is looking to hire a Director of Digital Marketing hoping to expand an existing company and the online presence optimization customer reach.

    What are some of the absolute must for a job posting? What would you consider overkill? Well, there’s a lot of stuff in there right? online presence, optimization, customer reach, with any kind of hire, with any kind of job, start with the outcome, what are they expected to generate? Like online presence is kind of an amorphous concept, right? Like, yes, we have online presence.

    Well, great.

    How do you measure that? What are what are the KPIs, the key performance indicators that this person will be responsible for? What will get them a bonus or what will get them fired.

    That’s going to be key to making a good hire.

    If you Know with clarity, what it is that this person is ultimately responsible for at the end of the day, then you can make that part of the job description, right? You say we expect you, Director to generate 2000 qualified leads per year by whatever legal means necessary, right? If you have that KPI, then it becomes much easier to figure out okay, what are the skills and whether the tools and techniques that you have available to you that would allow you to do that.

    So for example, you say you’re required to generate 2000 leads per year.

    And we are a company that is a salesforce.com company and we have Salesforce par dot and Salesforce Marketing Cloud and all this good stuff right.

    Now, the job descriptions actually pretty clear, right? You’ve got to be able to generate leads.

    You’ll have a target of you know, however many and you’ll be managing a team of three people to achieve that goal and Traditionally, in the past, the company is used email marketing and social media, whatever.

    But an a really key consideration here is that if you start with the goal, if you start with the KPI, then as long as you set the parameters like this is our marketing tech stack.

    You don’t have to list every single, you know, possible job to do on the job description.

    Instead, you list the goal you list the tech stack and you say when you come in for an interview or when you respond to this posting, tell us how you would do this tell us how you would generate 2000 leads per year show us examples of lead generation that you’ve done in the past and that will give the hiring manager a lot of insight into Well, this is this is how this person is going to do the job.

    The last director I hired the big pain point four for me and the big responsibility for the job was managing a team.

    Right? managing the team well, and getting the team to perform well.

    They did the the director I hired didn’t have a responsibility for lead generation because that was my job.

    But the part that I desperately need help with is managing the team.

    So when that job posting went up, and when the job search was going on, that was the lens through which we were focused and we’re able to make a really good hire.

    If you try and throw every single thing of a job description, you know, every possible hat this person could wear.

    You run into two things one, you will get a job description is very unfocused and will probably be a turn off to a lot of people because as you as David Mesa says, you know, we put a we put a little list of everything here so that it communicates clearly we are good at nothing.

    And to that’s going to really bump up the cost of the candidate, right because the cat, you’re going to weed out candidates who may or may not have every single skill.

    And those people who do who are qualified are going to be very expensive because you’re going to need them to do everything if you read the job description carefully.

    If on the other hand, the job description is highly focused, your job is demand generation or your job is audience growth.

    And that is the key priority for this position in what this position will be doing.

    We all understand everybody understands that.

    Yes, jobs can change over time.

    positions, needs corporate priorities, those things change over time.

    But if you are, and your organization is willing to commit time and money and effort to hire a full time person, whatever that person is responsible for, it’s got to be a pretty big priority.

    Otherwise, you would have probably outsourced to draw hired a contractor or an agency to handle it if it was just a short term need or was not a strategic priority.

    That was literally the bread and butter of the company, you hire and go through all the commensurate difficulty of hiring for the things that are the highest priority.

    So what is the highest priority? Be a good partner to the candidate to like I said, ask them, How would you solve this? How will you approach this? How will you do this job? If the goal is crystal clear, you must generate 2000 leads.

    Tell us how you’re going to do that.

    assume you have a small budget.

    assume you have not nearly as many staff as you would like, assume that you can’t change the technology stack even though that may or may not be true.

    How would you within those constraints do the job and that will give you a tremendous amount of insight into the candidate, how they think how they solve problems.

    The other challenge you will get with a job description.

    That’s over really broad is you will get some candidates who, how do I put this nicely? They talk a good talk, but they can’t walk the walk.

    And when the job description is so scattered, they can fake it in the interview and the responses.

    Oh yeah, here’s my experience with this and with this and with this and with this and with this and because the job description is so broad, so broad.

    It sounds like they’ve got the goods when in fact they don’t they have you know, their their knowledge is a mile wide and not centimeter deep.

    If on the other hand, the job descriptions generate 2000 leads a year it becomes real clear whether somebody has the experience to do that.

    Or they start throwing up red flags every year.

    everywhere like, well, I would need a team of 12 to do this or my last job.

    I had managed a team of 15 people and he started listening this person go well what did you You do exactly Well, I manage this and this and this like, Okay, great.

    You’re You’re good manager if you can get the results.

    But if there’s a if there’s a component to the job that is essential to that KPI, and it sounds like that person doesn’t have the skill to do that particular task that will come out more easily if the job descriptions highly focused rather than a broad scattered mess.

    Especially if the people doing the interviewing do not have the subject matter expertise that they should in that particular task, which makes sense.

    That’s what you’re hiring for.

    Right? But you want to be focused so that your bs detectors work better.

    When you press something, okay, well 2000 leads a year.

    What’s your what is what are your first 90 days look like? What happens that first 90 days because that’s a quarter.

    All right, that’s 500 leads How you going to generate 500 leads in your first 90 days.

    You’ll get some interesting answers.

    And you’ll very quickly get someone to realize, Ooh, that’s a tough challenge.

    Or they may say, here’s here’s what we do we immediately look at everything that is in the sales pipeline is abandoned.

    But we do some retargeting to immediately try and get some easy wins we, what does your email marketing program look like? When was the last how often you send out a newsletter, you don’t send out a newsletter.

    Great, we’re starting one tomorrow, you start to get very clear responses.

    So that’s how you tackle this, be focused about the KPIs and you will get a much easier time job with the job description and with the hiring.

    If you have follow up questions on this, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tools or Concepts in Marketing Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tools or Concepts in Marketing Data Science?

    Jessica asks, “Which should we focus on learning most in marketing data science, concepts or tools?”

    Without a doubt, concepts. You learn frying, not a specific model of frying pan. You learn painting, not a particular paint brush. You learn to play any piano, not just one kind of piano.

    You Ask, I Answer: Tools or Concepts in Marketing Data Science?

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    In today’s episode, Jessica s, which should we focus on learning most in marketing data science concepts or tools.

    Without a doubt, concepts, think about when you learn to cook, you learn frying, right? baking, boiling, you don’t learn a specific model of oven, you don’t learn a particular brand of frying pan you learn how to do the thing.

    And ideally, that knowledge is one that you can transfer broadly within that category.

    So if I have a eight inch frying pan, a six inch frying pan or a wok, I should be able to apply the same principles of frying.

    You learn painting right now the specific brush, although you may have techniques that are well suited for a certain type of brush, but you’ll learn painting, you learn.

    You learn to play piano, right, and in theory, you should be able to play Any piano whether it’s a little you know, 32 key miniature USB device or like an 88 key grand piano and in a Carnegie Hall, you learn to play the piano, not just one kind of piano.

    Marketing data science is exactly the same.

    You learn how to apply different concepts, different ideas, different techniques to data and not necessarily a specific tool.

    Now, do you need to use some tools? Yes, absolutely.

    You cannot fry without a frying pan.

    Man.

    If you don’t know how to handle a frying pan safely, you’re gonna have a bad time.

    The same is true in data science, you need to be able to use tools like Python or R or IBM Watson Studio, but you use it in the service of the concept.

    So learning things like regression, multiple regression classification, clustering Association.

    dimension reduction, principal component analysis, any of these techniques are things that you absolutely need to learn and what tool you use to apply those techniques is largely up to you.

    You have any number of these tools, I would say start with the open source ones because a they’re free and be when you’re writing the code, you have the most control over the techniques and over the tools, you can specify the parameters that you want to use.

    Now sometimes that’s good, sometimes that’s bad, but in the beginning, for sure, it doesn’t hurt to have a good look at the guts and the inner workings of something.

    It’s kind of like it’s kinda like the difference between you know, frying something in a regular frying pan or I want those like really crazy fancy appliances that like auto fry and boil and all this stuff you don’t really see See what’s going on.

    Right? You don’t understand caramelization of the mired reaction in one of those fancy machines.

    Yeah, absolutely see that in a good old fashioned frying pan and you understand what’s happening to your food.

    And so you can make adjustments or change the way you do things, maybe change some ingredients.

    Same is true in data science.

    If you stick all your data into a really fancy auto ml system.

    You might see some of what happens on the inside but not really, right as opposed to writing a regression algorithm yourself or using x g boost or using lasso or ridge regression.

    When you do those things, you see the outcome pretty clearly.

    Does it take longer to learn that way? Yes.

    Does it take longer to get to usable production results that way? Yes, absolutely.

    But in Doing so you learn how the techniques work, and more importantly, when they don’t work.

    When you’re doing marketing data science, that’s really important.

    The ability to say, I know when ridge regression or lasso regression, or logistic regression, or linear regression are the right choices to make based on the data that I’m working with.

    And the outcome I’m trying to achieve.

    If you leave it all up to a machine, it may or may not make the best choice for your data.

    I have run into that personally, gosh, so many times where an auto ml algorithm will try to to do a bunch of stuff on the data set, and it doesn’t understand some of what’s going on.

    Here’s a very straightforward example.

    A lot of these automated data science tools operate on the data pretty naively, they won’t look for example, for near zero variables which are variables where Most of the time, the zero they don’t look for or knockout correlates.

    So let’s say, here’s an easy one.

    Let’s say you’re doing an analysis of tweets, right? And you have all these tweets, and you’ve done character counts only 140 characters, hundred 70 characters, hundred 80 characters.

    And then you do an analysis of how many words you know, 1015 2030 words in a tweet.

    The two numbers, character count and word count are going to be perfectly correlated, right? Because they’re, essentially are derivatives of each other in some ways.

    If you put that into a machine learning algorithm that is trying to predict or understand what feature what column in your data set has the highest relationship to an outcome you care about, like no retweets.

    Those two columns can screw up the analysis Because they are so highly correlated, what you would have to do as a subject matter expert is look at that.

    Okay, which one do I care about more, you know, Twitter makes character count, a lot more important than word count.

    So that’s it, let’s knock out word count, we don’t necessarily need that we do want to have that character count in there.

    This is something that again, a lot of automated data science tools will not know to do.

    They will not know to do that, or they won’t be able to do that because they can’t tell which is more important.

    You have to understand the concept of correlates.

    And you as a subject matter experts in your data, have to say, you know what, let’s get rid of word count.

    They’re highly correlated.

    They’re probably not going to yield tremendous insight together.

    So knock out one of them.

    And let’s and use that for for the same regression analysis.

    You can’t do that without understanding the concepts.

    If you only focus on the tools, you will Follow the instructions on the tools push the buttons, and you may not get the best analysis.

    Now, is that a shortcoming of the tool? Yes, yes, it is.

    Is that something that the vendor of that tool could fix? Maybe, but probably not.

    Because again, that decision about which column to knock out is a subject matter expertise decision, and that’s something that machines simply do not have.

    So, learn the concepts, focus on the concepts, build expertise in the concepts.

    In doing so, in applying that, you will get to a point where you will learn the tools, right, as a natural outgrowth of trying to learn the concept of trying to make the concept work.

    That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pick up the manual and learn the tool do but focus on the concepts.

    That’s where you’re going to get the most value out of marketing, data science, the most value of the education and professional development you’re trying to do.

    It will give you The best understanding of how things go wrong and ways to fix it when something goes wrong when you get an analysis that makes no sense.

    Only knowing the concepts will get you past that hurdle.

    Otherwise, you’ll spit out up a spurious analysis and maybe makes bad decisions from it.

    It’s a really good question that’s spent a lot of time on this.

    to focus on those concepts.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Link in Bio Solutions for Instagram?

    You Ask, I Answer: Link in Bio Solutions for Instagram?

    Jake asks, “What’s your favorite “Instagram link in bio” platform? I tried LinkTree for a while and it seems like IG is starting to crack down on things like that.”

    Generally speaking, I prefer to roll my own when it comes to stuff like this. You have more control over it, especially the output, and you don’t have to worry about a service being discontinued or raising its prices 10x overnight. All you need is a regular responsive webpage.

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    In today’s episode Jake asks, What’s your favorite Instagram Lincoln bio platform.

    I tried link tree for a while and it seems like Instagram is starting to crack down on things like that.

    Generally speaking, for simple services where there’s relatively low complexity, you’re better off having your own, you’re better off having your own service that is under your control that you can tune and do as little as much as you like, and is not reliant on the third party.

    One of the great challenges we face in marketing right now is the crazy explosion of point solutions for pretty much everything.

    My friend Scott Brinker creates this landscape called the mahr tech 5000 was named that three years ago when it had 5000 different marketing technology solutions this year 8000 among them, things like you know, the various Lincoln bio solutions, which is fine.

    But it always increases the complexity of your marketing technology stack.

    If you can, if you have the capability, try rolling your own try building infrastructure that you have control of, if you have the capability to do so it reduces your costs.

    And critically for basic stuff, it you don’t have to worry about a service provider vanishing overnight and then having to scramble to fix a bunch of things right? nor do you have to worry about a service provider saying, Well, you know what, we’re going to increase the cost 10 x now, which has happened to me, I had one provider that went from 25 a month for a particular technology service to500 a month.

    And they said, Yeah, we’re doing this because, uh, you know, whatever the reason wasn’t, you know, it’s fine as their rights, their software they have the right to do that.

    I have the right to not be there.

    customer and I’m like, Alright, I’m going to a different solution, I’m going to an open source solution that I host on my own servers because I don’t want to pay that much money for this particular service.

    Same with a link shortener.

    I was doing some work with a popular link shortening platform and it the pricing on it just went through the roof.

    And I was like, You know what, I’m gonna use an open source package and and run my own server and then I don’t have to pay any money other than the hosting for the server.

    And I can do as much as I want there’s no limits.

    So, that is the approach I tried to take whenever is practical to do so if there are either pieces of code you can write yourself or open source packages that you can swap in for proprietary packages.

    You will save your company a lot of money and you will give yourself the reassurance that the service the function is one that is under your control.

    So let’s look at the Instagram Lincoln bow page, I’m gonna bring switches over here, this is a very simple piece of code.

    And all it is, is it has the URL that you change, but the Lincoln bio, and then some Google Analytics tags, because one of the things that people like about services like, you know, the link to use the world is they get analytics on it.

    Well, I like analytics, too.

    I like analytics more if it’s in an interface that everyone’s familiar with, like Google Analytics.

    So in this case, I have it set up so that it sends essentially, link click data to my Google Analytics installed, so that I can go in and look and see, you know, track with the sources, the mediums campaign codes, and I don’t have to append that to the URL, and it does the thing and sends it off to Instagram.

    What does it look like? What does the code actually look like? The the Lincoln bio part that is the link on Instagram as one URL on the web server and then it goes to a page that looks like this, where for those of you who use link tree looks real simple, right? This is just a WordPress page, it’s just a page on the company website.

    Nothing fancy, nothing special.

    Just got a little bit styling to make it look like a link tree.

    And it works great.

    It gets people exactly where I want them.

    And this is a page that you can maintain in WordPress.

    So if this is going to be like the permanent page on your link on your, your Lincoln bio, then guess what this This fulfills the function.

    So if you don’t care about the virtual clicks on the Instagram link itself, put a page like this on your WordPress, install, write, style it a little bit, and then use this as your Lincoln bio and then it’s just another page you maintain on your website.

    It keeps things simple, and keeps things clean.

    It is under your control.

    And if you’re as long as your template is responsive, like this one here.

    It makes it so easy for people to find the resources that you want them to have and bonus If it’s a regular web page that’s responsive, you can change other parts of this.

    You can do a B testing on it, you can do a bunch of things that you can’t do with link tree.

    You can’t A B test different offers on link tree.

    You can’t swap around the order the buttons and do all these things.

    Or if you can, I, I’ve used link tree once.

    I don’t know if these are paid features and up.

    Why pay.

    It’s a web page that you run on your website, you use Google Optimize, to do the A B testing.

    And now you’ve got all the marketing technology facilities you could possibly want.

    on a web page.

    You have your Google Analytics running on here so you can see the traffic to this page.

    You have Google optimized for a B testing if Google Tag Manager so you can track and cookie and run campaigns promotions to this page.

    You could use this page in your Facebook ads.

    Keep it simple, keep things as simple as possible.

    That’s the solution I recommend.

    When we’re possible.

    Keep it in house.

    Even if there’s nothing more than a simple web page, and do it yourself.

    Now that link redirected I was talking about is not an essential part, you can just have the page itself.

    And that’s the link that goes in your bio.

    And you just adjust this as you need to.

    If you want the link redirector for the extra analytics, that’s something else you have to code, but it’s not a deal breaker, right.

    And it’s just additional data.

    So that’s a solution I would recommend.

    Are there other services that do what LinkedIn does? Yes, of course there are.

    Do you need to pay them? I personally don’t think so.

    So if you have follow up questions about this, feel free to ask in the comments box below.

    But again, keep it simple.

    Use your existing content platform.

    What makes this page useful is it’s just a bunch of CSS.

    It’s just you know, standard design stuff, nothing fancy no additional plugins, you can just put it right in the HTML on your web page.

    Looks great.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Duplicate Content and SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Duplicate Content and SEO?

    Simone asks, “Does Google Search ding us for duplicated content or should I just throw this out the window and let my editorial team publish the same content across multiple sites?”

    Google’s search algorithms attempt to find the most authoritative version of any given piece of content. Sometimes that’s your site. Sometimes it’s not – especially if your site isn’t as robust, authoritative, or trustworthy as a site you’re syndicating content to.

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    In today’s episode, Simone asks, Does Google Search ding us for duplicated content? Or should I just throw this out the window and let my editorial team published the same content across multiple sites? So on the topic of duplicate content, here’s what happens with Google.

    Google looks at a piece of content and kind of fingerprints it and then looks around at its catalog and sees where else it is seamless.

    And then based on that, it tries to figure out which one is the most authoritative, which one is the one that will give the user the best experience.

    And so it’s going to take into account things like reputation, expertise, trustworthiness, all these ranking signals that it’s come up with.

    That will help it decide when it shows a page because it’s going to show the best results.

    Not going to show All the results, it picks up, it’ll show the best result in a Google search query to the end user.

    The trouble with syndicated content where you take a piece of content and you pitch it everywhere and throw it on every blog, and get reporters to publish it, etc, if you can, if it’s impossible these days is your site may not be the best choice.

    Right? Even if it’s your content, your site may not be the best choice.

    If you have a piece of content, and you put it on, it’s on your blog, and it’s on, say, The New York Times.

    Just by virtue of reputation, and user interface alone, who’s going to win.

    Probably Google is going to see the New York Times version as the authoritative version saying this is clearly the most reputable authoritative site and you your content will get consumed but it will not get consumed on your site and will not benefit your site because A better ranking site has taken that advantage.

    So when you are publishing content, there’s two ways to get around this.

    One.

    don’t publish it elsewhere.

    Right? That’s by far the easiest solution is if you’ve got something that you’ve invested a lot of time in, and you really want it to contribute to your site’s search engine optimization efforts, your SEO efforts.

    Keep it in in your wheelhouse.

    Don’t let other sites have that same piece of content, you might create an extract or abstract or summary, a shorter version, much shorter that links back to your site.

    And that’s a great way to do that.

    It’s a great strategy, but don’t give away the whole thing.

    The second way which is less reliable, and therefore, somewhat more challenging, is when you publish that piece of content A make sure it’s on your site first, by a substantial amount of time, like, at least a day, ideally a week and use what’s called the rel canonical tag.

    A rel canonical tag is a meta tag that goes into your website.

    For that piece of content.

    Ideally, it’s set up as a part of your content management system.

    So it’s on every piece of content.

    And it basically tells Google, this is the original piece of content.

    You may see this other places, but this is where it appeared first, and this is this is who the owner of this piece of content is.

    Now, the challenge with that, of course, is that if you just hand another blog, that same piece of content, they put it on their website, and they have the same rel canonical tag turned on and they’re CMS.

    Now you have essentially you’re back to square one.

    You have two sides battling out that’s why the timing is important, making sure that it appears first on on yours Because logically, if it appears first there and Google fingerprints both and says, Well, this one appeared earlier, the system knows that that is more likely to be the original piece of content.

    So the timing difference combined with rel canonical can help.

    But fundamentally, don’t give away the best stuff to other people.

    Right? give away the stuff that’s okay.

    That helps establish your reputation that helps broaden awareness.

    But for the things that are your crown jewels, they belong on your site and your site alone.

    So make that decision when you’re when you’re building your content strategy.

    What are we going to give away? What are we going to rent essentially, and by that I mean those abstracts as extracts the short versions of your your better pieces of content, and what are we just not going to give away.

    The other thing that is You may want to look into is if you’ve got people who are taking content from your site without your permission, you can file copyright infringement claims with Google takedown notices and such saying, hey, can this site is scraping our stuff that in itself is a full time job because there’ll be plenty of sites that will scrape your stuff.

    And it takes a while to to pursue them but certainly anything that scraping your your big stuff, you might want to to get like a virtual assistant or somebody to go out and chase those sites, filing those claims with Google, sending down takedown notices, cease and desist notices and all that stuff.

    That takes time and money.

    And I would only say that would be a problem if you notice it in your search engine.

    Rank monitoring tools.

    If you see sites that you’re competing with winning on keywords that lead to scraped content that is yours.

    That would be I sort of the threshold, I would say where you’d want to go out and pursue those those folks who are doing that, because that obviously is causing harm to your business.

    If it’s not causing harm, if you know some bot farm is scraped your entire blog, and it’s showing up in monitored links in your in your SEO tool, and they’re like domain authority is like to and stuff and you badly outrank them.

    That’s not an issue.

    So that’s duplicate content.

    A lot of people will refer to a duplicate content penalty, there is no penalty, right? Google does not say we’re going to punish you for for having duplicate content, Google is simply going to say, we’re going to find the best version of this piece of content.

    So your site will not incur some kind of mysterious penalty and vanish from search rankings.

    That kind of happened a long time ago and is sort of stuck with people who have not kept their SEO knowledge up to date.

    But that is no longer the case and has not been for a very long time.

    So that’s, that’s duplicate content.

    Be careful where you wiki.

    Ultimately Be careful who you let borrow your stuff.

    Same as anything.

    All right? Don’t let people borrow your best stuff.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Change a Podcast’s Brand?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Change a Podcast's Brand?

    Jason asks, “What are the precautionary steps if I need to change the title, description, artwork and such for a podcast so I can avoid losing momentum and not break anything with the new version of the show? What are the implications for being discovered in the podcast searches?”

    Treat this like any move. Avoid changing the root domain if possible. Tell your audience and your customers what’s going to happen with plenty of advanced notice, and consider some transitional artwork and messaging. From a technical perspective, as long as the URL doesn’t change, you won’t break anything infrastructure-wise.

    Be sure to update the description and feed details – again, think transitional. Have stuff like “The show formerly known as” so that people aren’t surprised – and by having the old show name in your description and maybe even title, you’ll still catch those folks who are searching by the show’s old name.

    More than anything, do some basic SEO work and see where your existing show is getting links from, so that you can reach out to those places and get them to update the title and description.

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    In today’s episode, Jason asks, What are the precautionary steps? If I need to change the title, description, artwork and such for a podcast so I can avoid losing momentum and not break anything with a new version of the show? What are the implications for being discovered in podcast searches? So this is a good question.

    podcast searches, particularly on services like Spotify, apple, podcasts, Google podcasts, etc, are very rudimentary.

    They function like SEO did like 15 years ago, where it really is all just very primitive keywords and things.

    There’s none of the AI that you would expect from like a Google search that would detect intent and things.

    So specific terms specific names, brands matter a lot.

    So treat this move that you’re talking about like any other move, right? Treat it like a website.

    Try not to change the domain name.

    Try not to change URLs, if possible, because that adds a level of technical complexity that you do not want.

    Updating RSS feeds and things like that.

    If you can avoid changing the URL, then what you need to do is create a plan for transition period, maybe a month, maybe she wants it depends on the cadence of how fast you release your show.

    If your show is a daily show, you could probably make the move fully in about two weeks.

    Depending on I guess, the easiest way to look is is to look at how fast old shows stop getting downloads, you know, other than like the ones you twosie here and there.

    If your listenership tunes into a show and listens within 24 hours of of it dropping, then, you know, give yourself a few weeks to move.

    If on the other hand, a show doesn’t really taper off until like a month then you might need to Give yourself a couple of months of transition time.

    In the transition time, what you want to do is tell people that things are changing, give people advance notice, you’ll want to craft some transitional artwork that incorporates the old shows look and the new shows look at the same time.

    So if there’s a picture of your just your face for the old show, and there’s a brand new logo for the new show, maybe in the transitional artwork, there’s a picture of your face and the logo together.

    Your messaging has to be the same as well, letting people know on the air, hey, this is going to be changing in however long.

    When you next open your podcast listener, you’re gonna see start to see some of the changes.

    It’s still the same show.

    It’s still the same person.

    It’s still it’s still me.

    But don’t be surprised if in on you know, set an arbitrary date on July one.

    The name has changed in your podcast listener, and please keep tuning it.

    For more a technical perspective, as long as the URL doesn’t change, you’re not going to break anything infrastructure wise.

    You do want to update the description and the feed details.

    And, again, we want to be transitional here.

    If the show is, you know, almost timely podcast with Christopher Penn, or in this case, let’s say if the Christopher Penn show becomes the most timely podcast.

    The transitional name should be almost daily podcast with Christopher Penn or almost timely podcasts, the show formerly known as the Christopher Penn show, right so that a people aren’t surprised.

    Be the, the name is people get set to get familiar with the name in their their pod catcher of choice.

    And see, you want to take advantage of those very primitive SEO metrics, right, those SEO tools that are in podcasting, you know, Pete very primitive keyword searches.

    If someone is searching for the Christopher Penn show.

    I want to have that For sure in the description of my podcast forever, right, maybe at the end of my description we’ll say formerly known as the Christopher Penn show.

    But in the title of the show and the episodes, I will probably want to have that transition period of the almost timely podcast.

    The artist formerly known as Christopher Penn, whatever is in the description so that people searching for it, catch it.

    Now for a little while, that’s going to be ugly.

    Got some really long titles, but you’ll be giving people the chance to make the transition to mentally make the transition it depending on how large your listener bases and again how frequently or infrequently record, you might even start with flipping the names around.

    So if your show is the Christopher Penn show, and the new shows the almost timely podcast, but Christopher Penn show soon to become the almost time we podcast and then do four or five episodes like that, and then flip it around the almost half hour podcasts formerly known as the Christopher Penn show, and then four or five episodes that and then at the end You have the almost half of the podcast but in the description of each episode, and in the master feed description, you’ll have the show formerly known as Christopher Penn show that way.

    You’re continuing to attract any searches for people who are looking for the old show while you’re capturing the new show.

    One other thing that’s really important with podcasts is there are tons of podcast directories and things like that, that have links to shows there are syndicators and aggregators, more so with podcasts and blogs than with like social media.

    By the way, make sure you update all your social properties, usual stuff for any any kind of brand change.

    You need to go into the SEO tool of your choice and look for all the inbound links to the old show, including individual episodes.

    And then if you have the time, go and hunt down those links and ask people To change the title, the description of those links, the the wording, the anchor text on those links.

    If you don’t have a ton of time, I would take that same data extract from the SEO tool of your choice, sorted in descending order by URL URL rank, or whatever your tools equivalent is, and at least take care of the top 10%.

    Right, so that you’re getting the most equity redirected, in terms of branding and name and anchor text changes possible to help boost the new show to help to get the new show up and running.

    The messaging for that could actually be very similar.

    So if somebody is linking to Episode 14 of the Christopher Penn show, I would reach out to them and say, Hey, I just want to let you know thanks so much for linking to me, I’m changing my show’s name.

    Would you consider changing the link text to Episode 14 of the almost highly podcast formerly known as the Christopher Penn show so that again, I’m capturing both of those things.

    I want to make sure that getting as much of the link redirects the anchor text changes as possible to boost helping people find the new name of the show.

    Finally, like all things in podcasting, make sure that you’re doing your outreach, your your rounds, your promos.

    It’s so funny people have forgotten how to do promos.

    It used to be nothing to do in podcasting back in, you know, oh 60708 and people just don’t do it anymore.

    And it’s a shame because it’s a good way to get in front of another audience easily as long as the audience’s is a peer of yours and non competitive.

    So give that some thought as well.

    There are tons and tons of podcasts and nobody remembers that should write about that.

    At some point.

    I just lost podcasting culture.

    So that’s it.

    It’s treated like a brand chain, treat like a brand move to all the things give people transition time.

    Try not to break the technical aspects and you should be fine.

    Keep the old name around.

    titles and descriptions especially so that you can attract searches for them and let the directories know where they are.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Making Instructional Screencasts?

    You Ask, I Answer: Making Instructional Screencasts?

    Thomas asks, “What tool do you like to use to record your computer screen? Looking to make an instructional video and I want to show the steps on the screen as I go.”

    Without a doubt, Techsmith Camtasia. It’s the best tool for the job, especially if you want to do more interactive stuff like hotspots in videos, show keystrokes, etc. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Thomas asks, What tool Do you like to use to record your computer screen looking to make an instructional video and I want to show the steps on the screen as I go.

    The tool that I prefer, I recommend strongest TechSmith Camtasia is available for Windows and Mac computers, I use the Mac version.

    And what I like about it is that it has a lot of instructional elements that it’s well designed for teaching with it.

    There are a lot of tools can just record your screen right, you can do that with like video conferencing software, but you don’t get any of the interactivity.

    So let me show you a very quick example here.

    Let’s go ahead and move this up.

    Within Camtasia, what you can do is I did a brief recording here, do things like cursor highlights or spotlights to show only a specific part of the screen you can see there’s a version of it there where I’m highlighting, essentially just where my cursor is, which is awfully handy if you want to be able to teach people what it is you’re doing.

    There are other effects that I think are super helpful.

    One of which is the ability to show keystrokes.

    So as you’re typing, you can’t really see it here.

    I bring them to the bottom.

    You can see at the bottom, there’s a little keystroke, there we go.

    That’s better.

    And it will show you this is what I’m typing on the keyboard.

    As I’m doing work, these little things.

    There’s a lot of them.

    There’s no masks, there’s green screen effects, interactive hotspots.

    These are the kinds of things you’re going to want in an instructional video.

    One of the tricks to doing this is if you look at the way the system is structured, and you look at all the features that are available in it, you’ll want to spend some time you know, getting them Hang of what all the different buttons do.

    And then treat them like actors on a stage or actors in a movie script.

    Think about what you want each one to do it, plot out your lecture your instructional video as though it were a movie.

    And so instead of having just straight cuts or directions for actors, which of these effects where they make sense Do you want to use because they said, there’s a lot in here and there’s some that are kind of fun, but like this reflection, one, it’s not super useful for instruction.

    The ones for instruction that you’re going to use a ton are going to be things like these cursor effects to able to highlight where something is happening on screen, and be able to animate and, and and fit things on screen.

    Picture and picture is going to be one of your best friends.

    So in this example here, I can take this video, I was scale it down to 25%.

    And so in the final Video for today’s episode, which is where this is going to go, I’ll be able to bring this up and be able to have the picture in pictures like we have it right here.

    And again, that’s just a way for you to be able to have your lecture show up on screen or reverse it, put your your face and your, your talking head in that little corner and have those big slides and things take up most of the room.

    Recording instructional videos is filmmaking.

    It’s a very specific kind of filmmaking, right, you’re not going to win an Oscar for it.

    But it requires the same amount of planning and thought that you would put into making a motion picture.

    It’s not as easy as just turning on hitting record and, and just hoping it goes well and you’re winging it, which I have done and it turns out badly every single time.

    So the software is important, having the different features having the different buttons, the ability to have a library of you know, music and intros and things the ability to store all favorites, be able to use them easily.

    These are great tools and Camtasia is one of the best tools for this for instructional videos.

    But as with everything, the tool is less important than how you use it.

    Right? If you can’t cook, there’s no difference between a 5 frying pan and a50 frying pan, you’re still going to make garbage.

    So take the time to learn this take the time to learn some basic filmmaking to go with the software.

    If you don’t, you’re not going to create very useful instructional videos and the thing about instructional videos in particular is that they are very different from regular films.

    And instructional video has to have a very strong structure in it that helps people get information into their heads.

    So if you just open up Camtasia and start recording and start talking, it just comes as you know, word vomit It’s not going to be very helpful to the end user, they’re going to be lost very easily.

    If you have a very clear structure to your instructional videos, you’ll do much better.

    So one of the ones that I use is very simple as what why how, what is the thing is a first quarter video? Why is the thing important second quarter, and then how the last 50% is using the software to demonstrate how to do the thing and if you do it in, that’s just one example of a storytelling structure for instructional videos.

    If you do that, you will get much better results.

    The tool will help you with the how, but you’ll be able to think about how you want things structured.

    One of the things Camtasia does really well as it has dropped in templates.

    So you could actually create placeholders in say a 10 minute timeline here and label them what why house so that you know you have to fill those things with that particular content in order to be able to create a reliable compelling and helpful.

    instructional video.

    So that’s my recommendation.

    The one exception I will make is if you are doing something as a live stream, if you’re going to do something as a live stream, I would recommend OBS the open broadcast studio.

    It’s open source software, it does not contain any of the instructional tools.

    But it is free software for streaming that does a really good job of capturing different scenes and stuff.

    And you can do some of the you can do like subtitles and lower thirds and and that’s really about the extent of what you can can do, at least with a product out of the box.

    But that is a great tool for streaming.

    One of the things I like about it is that it also records a local copy of what you’re streaming on screen, which you can then take render and put into Camtasia and then you can add some features some of the features like highlight and stuff don’t work with with prebuilt videos you have to record using the Camtasia software itself, but other things like subtitles and stuff work just fine.

    That’s how I would that’s the exception to the rule.

    So use OBS for live streaming use Camtasia for recording, and you’ll be able to create great, compelling useful videos.

    So good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Different Types of Writing Careers?

    You Ask, I Answer: Different Types of Writing Careers?

    Alanna asks, “Let’s say you have a job that is making you pretty unhappy (Marketing Manager, supervising one other person) and you are realizing that you hate Google Analytics and content calendars and pixels and you really just ended up here because you like to write and it got out of hand. What would you do? What kind of job would you look for?”

    It depends on what you want to write and how good you are at it. There’s room in the marketplace for actual writers of things like fiction, if you’re good enough. There’s room for technical writers, content creators, editors, grant writers, copy writers. It all comes down to what you’re really good at.

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    In today’s episode a lotta asks, let’s say you have a job that is making you pretty unhappy.

    I’m unhappy, marketing manager, supervisor, one other person and you’re realizing that you hate Google Analytics and content calendars and pixels.

    And you really just ended up here because you’d like to write and it got out of hand.

    What would you do? What kind of job would you look for? Okay.

    It depends.

    It depends on what you want to write and how good you are added.

    There is still plenty of room in the overall marketplace for actual writers, people who write things, nonfiction or fiction.

    I have friends who make living as professional authors, professional fictional authors.

    That’s what they do.

    They crank out terrific books.

    A lot of them That is something that is in more demand than ever actually the number of people who are looking for in the, in these uncertain times, stuff that’ll go on your Kindle, you know, and not just writing either writing, art any kind of creativity is stuff that there’s room in the marketplace for and I will also say that as much as I love artificial intelligence and what it can do it’s not going to replace fiction writing anytime soon.

    Unlike things that well I it’s not gonna replace writing in general anytime soon.

    writers in general, because every act of writing, as long as you’re not literally copying and pasting and you’re good at it offers a unique point of view that has not been created before.

    Machine learning and AI are really good at creating things from things they’ve already seen.

    But When you go and write something for the first time that is brand new, nobody has seen that before.

    And it’s very difficult for machines to come up with stuff that is genuinely uniquely new because they are trained on things that already exist.

    So there is plenty of room in the marketplace for actual writers, as long as you’re good, as long as you’re good.

    And you create stuff that people want to read.

    On the sort of the paid nonfiction side, there’s a ton of jobs, technical writers, for example, people who make documentation, all those manuals, all those, you know, bug reports and things.

    And there’s room even for a tremendous amount of creativity in that if you look, if you open up your smartphone, and you go into your app updates, and you read the app update notices, there are some that are like you know, bug fixes and improvements, very boring stuff.

    And then there’s others that are written with a sense of humor written with some fun love heartedness because the writers there can.

    There are plenty of jobs in the creative field writing things like script, especially now, in a world where anybody with a smartphone can make a film that doesn’t look bad.

    Again, on the nonfiction side, there’s content creators, people who write blog posts, for example, white papers, research, tons of writing there.

    There are grant writers, particularly for educational institutions and nonprofits writing grants to to win money from governments and nonprofit other nonprofit organizations.

    They’re copywriters, people just write copy that will then be used in white papers and webinars and such.

    There are editors, tons of different kinds of editors.

    So it all comes down to what you’re really good at.

    And if you enjoy writing and you’re really good at it, there’s a market for you.

    There’s a market for There’s actually a tremendous market for ghostwriting, and for clean transcription.

    So one of the things that I know friends of mine have done is they want to write a book.

    But they themselves know that we’re not great writers, but they could sit down and, you know, in interviews, get out a little audio voice recorder like this, right? And talk for hours and hours on end, and turn that into an end have a proficient talented writer, turn that into a book that you’d want to read, that still captured that the essence of that person’s voice, but didn’t require them to sit down to the keyboard and write things out.

    There are a lot of people right now in the space where they want to build their personal brands.

    They want to do all these these things, and having a book for good or ill still is one of the heroes sticks that people have in mind that says this person must know what they’re doing.

    they’ve written a book, right? It speaks well to the authority of books in our culture, that it still has that much sway that you’re having a book with your name on it of some kind, mean something.

    But again, a lot of people are not great writers.

    A lot of people do not have the time or the are not willing to commit to the discipline it takes to write a book I’ve written at this point, I think 22 of them and I just badly hammered out my first piece of fiction beyond 60 some odd thousand words it takes a lot to do that is to sit down for 30 6090 days for a couple hours each day just at the keyboard banging it out.

    Realizing the last 2000 words you just wrote were absolute garbage you have to select all hit delete and try over my book AI for marketers second edition I took the first digit Select all delete, and start over.

    And I’ll probably have to do the same thing with the third edition because it the field changes so fast.

    So there’s a tremendous amount of opportunity out there.

    What I would say is if you’re thinking about making a change into a creative writing career a go and do your homework join.

    There are so many writing groups on Facebook and other places that you can join and figure out what it is you want to do while you’re doing the job you’re doing.

    Because this is not the time to quit a job without something lined up.

    Hmm.

    While you’re doing the job you’re currently doing.

    Do some, I don’t like the word networking, but do some networking, do some informational networking where you you just want to talk to people in those positions and hear what it is that they do have virtual coffee with them, right we’re all still attached to our webcams.

    Having a spresso have a gin and tonic, depending on the time of the day with somebody at a in a career that you might want to just ask them what their work is like, how much of it is actual writing, how much it’s project management, how much is of this, this or that? Let’s see what’s out there.

    You may find, for example, hearing people’s experiences that you may not want to be a technical writer or a grant writer, those are there’s not a lot of room for creativity, particularly in grant writing.

    You have very, very stringent requirements, but it is writing.

    On the other hand, things like ghost writing, and marketing copy, there’s a lot more latitude, depending on how well you market yourself.

    Now there’s the catch.

    A lot of folks who work in in the writing industry, I guess, are freelancers they are.

    They are individuals sole proprietors going out there and doing the thing.

    And that’s very much a feast or famine business as well.

    agencies in particular need really good writers, public relations, advertising marketing.

    So again, do some informational networking, ask people what their work is like.

    I know when I worked in an agency, one of the frustrations people had was that they were they had so much to do, that their writing quality suffered, it made them really unhappy because they couldn’t, they knew they couldn’t do their best because they didn’t have the time to do it.

    So again, go out, talk to people figure out what it is like for them.

    See if it’s for you.

    Maybe do try some freelancing on the side if your your current conditions allow you to moonlight.

    Maybe give that a shot and see if it’s for you if you can make it go.

    But if you’re if you’re talented enough, but there is a lot of opportunity out there for folks who love to write.

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