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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “What data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing? In a dashboard published to senior management the last pages of the pdf were dedicated to marketing data. It was visitors to the website, impressions from paid media, Facebook Likes, Twitter Followers, and another data point or two that to me put an undue burden on the reader. Any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness (or at least influence) of marketing?”

    Fundamentally, it depends on marketing’s goal. Is it sales? Is it new customers? Is it revenue? This is why KPI mapping is so essential as an exercise. What’s the core outcome? Then run a multiple regression analysis to determine what other metrics correlate to that goal, then set up tests to prove causality.

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    In today’s episode Steven asks what data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing and a dashboard published a senior management here, the last pages of the PDF we’re dedicated to marketing data was visitors to the website impressions from paid media, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, etc.

    and it put an undue burden on the reader who had no clue how to do that translation any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness or influence of marketing? So really good question because we see a lot of this in marketing reporting and analytics where people to sort of back the truck up, pour the data on the desk, and and make a huge mess of things.

    Avinash Kaushik calls it data puking, who got whatever you want.

    It’s not a good.

    Fundamentally, telling the story of marketing means telling the story of business impact and business impact for the most part for most organizations, most of the time.

    It’s going to be about revenue.

    It’s going to be about can we add dollars to the bottom line in some fashion either directly or as part of process marketing in many b2b organizations is all about feeding sales, feeding the sales team giving them leads.

    Glenn Glengarry Glen Ross, you know we need more leads, stuff, the leads are weak.

    And in a b2c company, it can be actually just getting customers in the door, right? It can be actual purchases, it can be people signing up for a tour, it can be people requesting a brochure, but whatever it is, there’s got to be a core business level goal that marketing is helping to serve.

    Again, most of the time customers revenue, sales, all that stuff.

    So this is why one of the first things that every marketer needs to do is to Part of the strategic planning is what’s called KPI mapping, key performance indicator mapping, that it reminded the definition of key performance indicators that if it doesn’t get you, it gets you fired or a bonus.

    It’s a KPI.

    And that’s the starting point to figure out what is the impact of marketing.

    So take the overall organization goal, the overall goal, probably revenue in some fashion.

    From there, what number or numbers directly feed revenue? Maybe it’s open deals.

    For example, in a b2b company, it might be shopping carts in an e commerce company, it might be admission requests or admission applications at a college right but there’s got to be something that leads to that, that revenue in a number and then from there, what number leads to that? And from there, what memories that new actually starting to build that story of that chain of evidence that leads to the business outcome you can About once you’ve done the basic exercise and you’ve gotten to a KPI that marketing is directly responsible for so let’s say in a higher education institution, for example, if applications are to applying to that college or university are the major goal, then what can marketing see of that? Does marketing actually see those applications? Does marketing have access to the data on the website for people downloading the applications? Maybe we’re filling them out online.

    If so, there’s your KPI.

    The next step is take all that other marketing data that you mentioned, paid media impressions, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, visitors to the website, email sent and all this stuff, and run what’s called a regression analysis to determine what is the mathematical relationship of all these metrics.

    To the KPI, right.

    So if we’re saying, I’m going to keep going with the higher education analogy, if we’re saying that applications, which really is like, sales, right? It’s a contract essentially, applications is your KPI.

    Then what of all those numbers has a mathematical relationship to applications? And if it turns out none of them, then guess what? We don’t need any of them.

    In our reporting, we just focus on the KPI.

    If, on the other hand, it turns out there is a mathematical relationship between say, Facebook engagements and likes, tweets and views on YouTube.

    And that relationship is statistically relevant.

    You now have a testing plan, right? Let’s go with YouTube views.

    If it’s a higher education institution, and there’s a views of the of the campus tour videos online, great Now what happens if you increase views? Do you see a corresponding increase in applications if you’ve, if you’ve established this correlation, you now have to prove the causation through testing.

    And then once you’ve done that, and you’ve proven that there is a relationship and the relationship is causal in nature, then fundamentally what you end up with is a KPI.

    And one, two, maybe three metrics that have the strongest relationship that you’ve proven to that and that’s the number that you tell in the story.

    That’s the number those are the numbers that go in your dashboard.

    Because you know that they they translate to your KPI and your KPI translates to business impact.

    Maybe as email subscribers, maybe it’s email, open rate.

    You’ve got all this data.

    But which of it matters.

    That’s how you build a story.

    Because a story is fundamentally nothing more than in many cases, sort of a beginning, middle and end recounting of what happened in a way that has a logical coherence to it.

    And it’s it was a very exciting story.

    But that’s a story.

    And so if you can sequence out those numbers and discard all the ones that don’t contribute to that story that are not relevant to that story, you will be able to have a, if not compelling, at least a a meaningful and useful story about the effectiveness of marketing, but requires you to gather all that data and do that analysis.

    That’s the way that I would approach any situation where you’ve got somebody who’s putting data on your desk, and you want to make sense of it.

    Do the KPI mapping, do the regression analysis, do this testing to prove it and then remove and went out everything that doesn’t belong.

    There is You don’t have the data, then you have to do your your, your best with what you’ve got, right? So if you only have certain data points, you can repeat the exercises as much as you can.

    If you don’t have control over the data itself, like if you don’t work in marketing, and you’re just curious, then you got to collaborate, got to work with a team that is responsible for the data and responsible for making the data happen in order to be able to, to really create a good story.

    So it’s a good question.

    It sounds easy.

    It’s It’s simple.

    It’s not easy.

    I think that’s an important point.

    It’s, it’s very simple to do.

    It’s not easy to do.

    It will take a lot of time, it will take a lot of effort.

    But once you do it, and you get good at it, you get really good at boiling down all the data.

    That’s only the stuff that matters, then focusing your efforts on that.

    And that’s the point of something like an exercise like this not only to be able to tell the story better, but then to focus your efforts in such a way You’re expanding your resources on things that really matter.

    So really good question, important question.

    I hope that this was helpful.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: A/B Tests for Non-Random Situations?

    You Ask, I Answer: A/B Tests for Non-Random Situations?

    Kanako asks, “What are best practices for conducting A/B tests on non-random situations?”

    The short answer is for randomized controlled trials, there isn’t a best practice for doing things non-randomly. You need randomization to reduce the impact of confounding variables, and this is something marketers do wrong many, many times.

    Ways A/B tests go wrong:
    – Extrapolating a selected population to the whole population
    – Allowing self selection
    – Group randomization of individuals
    – Insufficient sample size

    Be clear about what the population is, then randomize from it using true random selection. That’s the only way to avoid things like selection bias.

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    In today’s episode Conoco asks what are the best practices for conducting a B tests on non random situations? All I mean, the short answer is don’t.

    An A B test is a more properly named randomized controlled trial.

    You have a hypothesis you have a control group of people who don’t receive the test.

    You have a group of people who do receive the test, and then you have the measurement to see if there is a statistically significant difference between the control group and the test group.

    If you do things non randomly when it comes to the selection of who is in each group, you are going to potentially blow up the test.

    Create a an outcome That is statistically not meaningful, or hat worse off has some kind of bias.

    And so in order to test properly, you need to have that randomization to reduce the impact of those biases.

    So real simple example, let’s say, let’s say you’re running a test on your website.

    And you want people to try out the new interface, right? So you say, hey, try out our new interface.

    At this point, now you’re doing what’s called self selection where people can opt to be in either the group that stays the same, or the group that is different.

    Why would this be bad? Well, think about this, what is the behavioral change that makes somebody choose to be in a different group? Right, they may have a different personality type.

    They may have a potentially a different skew towards it.

    Gender a skewed towards and ethnicity is skewed towards behavior.

    Maybe most smokers might choose that out whether smoking is being a smoker or a nonsmoker is is relevant to your population may or may not be something you want to investigate, but just the fact that someone can opt into a test group automatically sorts those people by something other than randomization.

    And that group may behave differently than the group that’s left behind as opposed to a randomized group where everybody has the same chance of behaving in a similar situation where the control group of the test group, so I can’t really think of situations where you would want to have a non random controlled trial.

    You can certainly do things like focus groups, maybe To get qualitative information do you want to try and, and get a well mixed sample of your target population rather than the eight people that you know that to come talk about something because again, they may not be representative of the population as a whole.

    There are four ways that we see a B Tests, Surveys, all sorts of things go kind of really off the rails.

    That self selection is sure one of them the randomizing of individuals in groups, as if as long as it’s not done randomly, like say, you’re going to take everybody with a gmail address.

    Well, that’s not really a great way to, to, to assign people to a controlled trial, particularly doing anything regarding email marketing, for example, because Gmail addresses may behave differently than hotmail addresses or AOL addresses for those people who still have them.

    So you want to have avoid doing group randomization of individuals.

    If you’re testing the individual randomized at the individual.

    If you’re testing our group grand, you can randomize at the group level, but then you should not be using individual level data.

    Third would be extracting, oh yeah, extracting a extrapolating a population, to the whole population that’s been selected.

    So this is one that we see a lot with email marketing, and testing.

    People will send out email to a specific email list and get it behavior, whether it’s an A B test running on site or whatever.

    And then extrapolate that behavior to the whole.

    You see this go wrong a lot with testing a lot with surveys.

    You will send out a survey to your email list.

    And then you would say well marketers believe that AB testing is overpriced.

    Well, no, only the people that you email believe that.

    And if your sample is not representative of all marketers, then it’s your conclusion is invalid.

    There are a number of companies that have been doing this with surveys over the years.

    They email their their database about their product or service or niche.

    And then say, marketers believe this will know only the people who are on your email list who have a self selection bias, right? your email list has a self selection bias people do not opt into emails that have companies that they don’t care about.

    So only the people who are on your list care enough about you to have given your your them you their email, and they have a bias.

    Right.

    People who are in for example, my analytics for markers slack group, which if you’re interested in joining, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers.

    People who joined that slack group, by default have a bias towards being interested in analytics.

    If they did not care about analytics, they wouldn’t join.

    So if I were to run a survey about analytics to an analytics group, I’m going to get very different results than if I ran the same survey to a random group of markers.

    So the extrapolation is, is important.

    And the fourth one is insufficient sample sizes.

    Again, when it comes to to a b tests, if you run a test and you test, you know, 10 people, and your website gets a million visitors a day.

    You’ve got a statistically invalid test that’s that.

    So small a sample cannot be used to extrapolate to the behaviors whole boxes is too much too large of a chance that you’ve got people in there who don’t behave like the rest of the population.

    So when you’re running, testing For a B tests, you have to make sure that you have a large enough sample.

    Now the good news is, for a lot of a b testing software like Google Optimize, it decides when the sample is statistically significant.

    So you may want to run a test in a certain timeframe, it won’t let you it will run the test until it has an answer of some kind or can’t come to a valid conclusion.

    That one’s not as much of a problem but generally speaking, there are no best practices for non random controlled trials, because they should not exist.

    So be clear about your population is randomized at using true random selection, we have a computer Assigned Numbers randomly assigned groups randomly.

    That’s how you avoid things like selection bias or confounding variables and stuff without that randomization.

    Things just get messy and you’ll end up with bad data from which you will make bad decisions.

    So do it well do it with randomization and and you struggle with that.

    There’s plenty of software and tutorials on how to do the randomization.

    But make sure that you’re doing it.

    You’re not doing non random controlled trials.

    Good question.

    Technically complicated question.

    So if Yeah, if the last few minutes were a lot of math words, it’s okay.

    But just be aware that of the idea that you always want to have a random sample.

    You don’t want to have non random samples.

    I can’t really think in the Navy test of a situation where you’d want something like that.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    Jackie asks, “How does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us, we’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls?”

    Data science is a methodology that can be applied to any data you happen to have. In the case of cold calling, as long as you have data about past successful and unsuccessful calls, you can start to build a hypothesis and test it. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Jackie asks, how does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us? We’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls.

    Well, data science is a methodology.

    It is a methodology that can be applied to any data you have remember that data science is the extraction of meaningful insights from data using the scientific method.

    So, the question is, what is well, there’s a whole bunch of questions but first is what do you want to improve if you are selling via cold call? That is a very labor intensive practice.

    You have to spend time, even if you’ve got the dialing part automated, as a lot of time and effort picking up the phone or talking to people, right? People take time.

    And so you would like to be able to do more calls to be more productive, you would like to be able to have better outcomes right to be able to sell more stuff to get fewer people who say mean words to you and hang up hang really and more people who would be willing to give you you know, five or 10 or 30 minutes or however longer cold call process is to hear the pitch and possibly say yes.

    So you have questions you need answered, right you How do I make myself more efficient? How do I make myself more effective? data science is one of those tools you can use a methodology you can use to answer those questions.

    In the case of cold calling, I would hope that you have data from the past about what constitutes successful and unsuccessful cold calls.

    So you should Do you have a list of numbers you’ve called who those people were, if you’d be to see the characteristics of those people where they came from, we’ve got that number from typical demographic information, such as like a household income, gender, etc.

    for businesses, you’d be firma graphic information that you would have.

    And you would want to use data science techniques, particularly statistical techniques to understand what do the people who are successful cold calls in the past? What do they have in common? Right? Remember that you’re going to have a lot of engineer data as well.

    So you should have the date and the time that you made a call.

    And so from that you would extract the year the month the day of the week, the day of the month, the day of the quarter, the hour of the day, the minute of the day.

    How long each call was, how long did it take for someone to pick up? How many rings did it take? As you can see, just from a simple action, like picking up the phone and calling someone, there’s a lot of extra data you can engineer out of it.

    And all of those statistics are things that you would then feed to data science software to figure out what features or, you know, data points, either alone or in combination with each other, lead to a successful outcome.

    This is a technique, formal technique name with a specific technique name is called binary classification.

    You have an outcome, successful call on successful call.

    And then you have all the information that went into it.

    And you would run a binary classification algorithm on the data and figure out are there things that indicate The likelihood of a successful call and maybe it is hour of the day maybe it is household income, or a number of family members.

    on the business side, it might be annual revenue, yeah, could be domain name.

    Whatever the thing is, you then find your classifiers.

    Your have been called feature importance or how how important a particular data point is.

    And then you begin testing.

    You begin the scientific method if calling at lunchtime on Tuesdays is the thing that is most most likely recorded the album related to a successful outcome.

    Then eat lunch early on Tuesdays doubled the number of calls that you do during Tuesday at lunchtime.

    And you test you see how many successful calls or ideally you do it like a control tower.

    where maybe you and a co worker, do calling on Tuesdays or around lunchtime.

    And you make double the number of calls, your coworker makes the same number of calls.

    And if that they normally do and an ideal you’re doing double the number of calls they are during that Tuesday lunch, and maybe they take half an hour off for lunch.

    And then you compare your results after a few Tuesdays and say, Okay, now here’s our hypothesis, correct? Does calling on Tuesdays at lunchtime yield more successful results than not? And by having that control of doing things normally on a Tuesday, versus doing doubling the volume on a Tuesday at lunchtime? Do you see greater success rates? Do you see a statistically significant difference in success rate? That’s how you approach all these problems.

    Just because you’re doing what we’ve considered traditional or old school sales doesn’t mean that you don’t have data, or that you can’t use data science techniques to improve those process.

    is the same for, you know, postal direct mail postal direct mail can be very, very effective in specific certain circumstances in specific situations.

    If you know what data you have, you can be very efficient in your mail, instead of spending a million bucks to drop, you know, postcards to every single person on the planet, you have maybe 500 households that you know, or that you’re going to test for likelihood, a much greater improved responses.

    That’s how you use the stuff.

    That’s how you apply the scientific method to your data, develop testing criteria, and then see if you get causation.

    See if you get better results.

    That’s data science.

    That’s how you apply it to any of these situations.

    So, step out on the mindset, you’re, you’re doing something traditional, and that was all this fancy new technology and step into the mindset of the scientific method.

    What can can we prove or disprove about an important question to our business using our data? That’s where the change for you will come and make your make your business work no matter what it is make it better.

    Thanks for the question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    Shane asks, “What’s the validity of domain authority in the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EAT? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions?”

    The answer to this question requires some statistical knowledge. Fundamentally, the outcome we care about is traffic from organic search, so the question is, does domain authority have any relationship to organic search traffic? Let’s see what we find from the SEO tool AHREFS and the R programming language; bear in mind every SEO tool has its own version of domain rating, so you’ll want to perform this test using the data from the tool you use, with your industry-specific data.

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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, What’s the validity of Domain Authority and the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EA t expertise, authority and trust? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority? Or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions? So this is a really good question because it requires a little bit of data homework, domain authority or domain rating or domain strength are arbitrary metrics put together by various SEO tool vendors, mas, RF, SpyFu, sem, rush, etc.

    To give you some shorthand about how important that domain overall is.

    So how do we do this? How do we go about turning an arbitrary metric into something that we can potentially get us out of? Let’s go ahead and flip this around here.

    To do this We’re going to need a whole bunch of data.

    And we’re going to need to understand at a very basic level, is there any mathematical relationship between whatever your tools domain authority measures called, and an outcome we actually care about.

    Now, for the most part, we’re going to care about organic search traffic, right? That’s the metric that is probably most meaningful to marketers because it means we actually got people to the front door, right? So let’s, we’re going to use the our programming language for this.

    You can use this as a statistical tool of your choice, IBM Watson Studio, SPSS, our Python doesn’t matter.

    I’m going to go ahead and I’m going to, let’s run all the prerequisites here so we can get all of our libraries loaded.

    And then we’re going to load in a whole bunch of exports from the RF tool and the exports.

    I’m using our Essentially articles with the most common would have called stop words in the English language, the or, and a in as you etc.

    These are going to give us a wide wide selection of content not just any one particular industry.

    I’m looking also at articles this year published within calendar year 2020 at with working links.

    Now what I’ve done is I’ve taken every metric they have and exported about 10,000 links per different metric because we want to see are there is there more than just domain rating or domain authority we want to look at.

    Let’s get rid of some row numbers here.

    And then let’s add in a days old just for fun to see if the age of the article matters.

    Going to load our correlation plot library.

    Remove numbers that are not remove variables that are not numbers you’ll see in the original data set here.

    There are things like the article title, the URL is Author of those are not necessarily things that, at least for this experiment we particularly care about.

    So let’s go ahead and then set any na which means not available to zero and run a correlation.

    We’re going to run a Spearman correlation tests.

    There’s Pearson spearmen.

    And the other one, I can’t remember the name it Pearson correlations are good for for normal distributions where there’s a bell curve of results from marketing data most of the time, most marketing data looks like a power locker where you know, though the Pareto rule 8020 rule, and so you want to use a Spearman correlation most of the time, and let’s remove the results of variables correlating themselves to that doesn’t help anybody and will draw plot.

    Okay, let’s zoom in here.

    Now what we’re looking for is there’s our domain rainville rating variable.

    And we’re looking for numbers in this section.

    Really a point two, five or better that Kate’s eight a week moderate correlation or, you know, minus point two, five week negative correlation basically looking for any correlation to major numbers that we care about.

    And the one that we really care about, is this one, the traffic number, right? What is their relationship between domain rating? And that organic traffic? And the answer is no.

    The other absolutely the point 008 Spearman correlation.

    That pretty much says there’s no relationship between domain rating in this tool and the outcome we care about.

    Now.

    question is What relationship is there between traffic that would be important? Number one here is referring domains, right referring domains.

    point five nine is a very strong correlation between traffic which is the outcome we care about.

    And referring domains.

    What else we got here we’ve got point four, two, median number of social shares.

    That’s interesting most of the time, there isn’t a strong correlation between social shares and SEO but in this particular set of 72,000 URLs, there is that I think bear some more investigation.

    And then next on the list here is number of words.

    That’s another interesting word point three eight, Spearman correlation.

    Again, we know that there is a bias in some types of algorithms in search towards longer form content.

    And this for this data set seems to bear that out.

    Now, bear in mind, let’s go ahead and flip out of here.

    Very mind a couple things with what it is we’ve just analyzed.

    We took a very generic data set from a single SEO tool, the RF tool in this case, and we did a Spearman correlation to see with the outcome we care about, does domain reading matter for this example? The answer is no.

    But There are some caveats on this.

    Number one, this is not niche specific, right? This is not industry specific.

    Instead of using the as the keyword term, you might want to use a piece of industry jargon from your industry and run this exact same analysis for your industry to see if there’s something specific in your world that matters much more than the generic English language words.

    Number two, caveat is that each SEO tool out there does its domain authority equivalent rating differently.

    They have different behind the scenes algorithms, Maz has domain authority.

    I think sem rush has doing strength RF says domain rating.

    So you’ll need to rerun these results with exactly the same technique, but export it from the tool that you use, because it may turn out that another vendor has a reasonably good domain authority.

    This particular vendors domain rating doesn’t really mean anything compared to the organic traffic outcome, and sidebar on that if your vendor doesn’t provide you an organic traffic number, then you can’t really do this analysis because you don’t know what outcome it is you’re going after.

    So make sure whatever venue you use, there’s a traffic outcome as well.

    That way you’re benchmarking against something meaningful.

    Now, as we all know, correlation is not causation, right? Just because an article is longer does not mean that it will likely get you more organic traffic, it means there’s a relationship between the two.

    So as with all good data science, once you have some kind of answer here, in this case, we did that we found median shares was interesting.

    We found a number of words was interesting.

    Your next step is not to immediately change your strategy.

    Your next step is to set up an experiment.

    start testing it We produce no longer blog posts.

    Let’s say you do a blog twice a week on every other blog is a longer post by, say, by meaningful amount likes, if you normally blog 300 words or every other post this month should be 600 words.

    And then at the end of the month, you check and see, did you see a relationship between longer posts and more organic search traffic? You may you may not, we don’t know you won’t know until you do the test.

    So that’s your next step is to test out and make sure that a correlation has a corresponding causation through your testing.

    So keep that in mind as well.

    In this case, my conclusion is for this data set, domain rating or domain authority isn’t a meaningful metric here.

    You have to test on your own.

    Don’t rely on just a generic test like we just did, to draw the conclusion for yourself, test for yourself, find out for yourself and then you can Go ahead and publish for your industry or your clients what it is that works best for your niche.

    So really good question.

    I wanted to show this as an example of the kind of work that you need to do to make that analysis so that you can get an answer that’s customized for you rather than a generic because the generic answer may not be applicable to your industry.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Where To Start Using Marketing Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Where To Start Using Marketing Data Science?

    Ashwin asks, “I have data around me related to campaigns – emails, phone calls, and survey data – so how should I start analyzing it?”

    First, let’s recall that marketing data science is about the application of the scientific method to data. Our first priority, then, is to use the data we have, techniques like KPI mapping, and some exploratory techniques to build the hypothesis we want to test. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Ashwin asks, I have data around me related to campaign emails, phone calls and survey data.

    So how should I start analyzing it? Nope.

    First let’s recall that the the entire point of marketing data science is to apply the scientific method to data right to marketing data, in particular for doing marketing data science.

    And therefore, we need to start the scientific method, the scientific method begins with a question, then you define the problem and the data you need.

    And you build a hypothesis that building on that hypothesis is the first start.

    So before we can go any further, we need to understand the question and we need to define the the data we’re going to need.

    So if you have all this data laying around, that’s great.

    What is the problem What is the question that we’re trying to ask it trying to answer? Are we trying to find out what drives revenue, drivers leads, builds, loyalty reduces complaints, there’s all these different outcomes that we want to know.

    most marketers have at least some role in creating demand that results in either lead generation or sales of some kind of revenue targets.

    So that’s the place that you normally would start and you do an exercise that we call KPI mapping, where you take that ultimate end goal and then map backwards.

    The steps you need to take in order to find a metric that is within your measurement sphere.

    So you might care about revenue and revenue comes from in a b2b example, closed one deals in the b2c example would be you know, consumer sales.

    And from there okay, what drives that number? Well, if closed one deals are created by Open deals, sales are preceded by say shopping carts, filled shopping carts.

    And you just keep working your way back until you get to a metric that you have control over.

    You have visibility into and you understand what influences it.

    And from there, you define what other data do you have? And do you need any other data.

    So let’s say your b2b marketer, your key metric, the KPI that you probably care about really is going to be that lead generation.

    And if you’re a b2c marketer, you’re probably care very much about shopping carts filled on the e commerce side or maybe people who walk in your store, whatever the case may be, find that number.

    And then you build a hypothesis.

    If you say that The green button on our website would perform better as a red button.

    And you believe that a change to the red button would give you an increase of 5% in your shopping carts filled.

    Now you have a provably true or false statement, right? That is a singular condition that you can go and test.

    And that’s that right there is the heart of data science is I’ve come up with a hypothesis.

    Now I need to use the scientific method to test it out to prove or disprove that statement.

    To go and change the button color, you collect data, you analyze it and you find out the red button has no lift sales, okay? You’ve disprove them hypothesis.

    So the question is when you have all this data, emails and phone calls and survey data, what is it you’re trying to prove? Chances are and this is something you get to in that different Fine stage early on, you’re not going to use all that information all the time, you may only use some of the pieces of data, you may want to do a deep dive into a particular data pools if you have all these emails, great, what influences open rate of your emails, time of day, day of week, domain name of the email you’re sending it to.

    So in that defined stage of the scientific method, you’re going to be doing a lot of what’s called exploratory data analysis where you’re going to engineer out all those features that essentially would be like extra columns in the spreadsheet from the data to try and come to a point where you can develop a hypothesis.

    So the question is, what drives emails? Is it the length of the subject line? Is it who it sent from Think of all the characteristics of an email that just sitting in your inbox, all the different ways you could analyze it? And then, being based on that corporate hypothesis, you hypothesize that sending emails on Sunday results in a 15% greater open rate than sending email on Tuesdays.

    And it has to about point you can begin the testing process because you have a provably true or false singular condition that you’re testing.

    It’s important to say that that singular condition is vital for good testing, because if you’re trying to test more than one variable, same time, it gets really messy, it gets complicated you can be done.

    There’s a technique called multivariate testing, but you need really good software for it and you need a statistically relevant sample size of your of your population.

    If you have, say, an email list of, say, 1000 people, you’re gonna have to test with about half of that list just to get any kind of margin of error, that’s reasonable.

    You may just have to test the whole list.

    And so it becomes if you have a small sample size, it can become very, very difficult.

    So Decide what you’re trying to test.

    Right? build that question, define it, do your exploratory data analysis, come up with your hypothesis? Very often what will happen is that the first time run, you do go through even just an exploratory phase, you’re going to end up with like 10 or 15 different hypotheses, you’re going to end up with a whole bunch of stuff.

    And the question for you will then be, okay, well, what is the most important and that’s that that’s the reason why we do the KPI mapping early on so that you can figure out what is closest to the end of the chain of evidence for revenue, right? If you’re testing audience metrics, but your boss cares about revenue, you and your boss is so far apart on on different metrics that while your investigation and your proof may be valuable, it will not have the impact that your Boss is looking for what your company is looking for your stakeholders.

    So make sure that you use that KPI mapping to prioritize either the most important thing to the company, which is pretty much always going to be in revenue, at least in normal business, or you prioritize the thing that’s most broken thing that is just working lease.

    Well, that’s, that’s where you’re going to spend your time.

    So figure that out, figure out how to figure out what it is that is the priority to test it and then go with that really good question.

    Challenging lots to unpack lots of experimentation do that’s the other thing with data science, you’re doing a lot of experimentation.

    So give yourself some time.

    Give yourself some resources and, and be patient.

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  • What is Ethics in Marketing?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    We live in challenging times as marketers. Our effectiveness is now dependent on so many different strategies, tactics, methodologies, partners, tools, and audiences that being effective sometimes appears to conflict with being ethical. Every day, we see stories in the news, in our social feeds, in our blogs about marketers crossing the line, doing dishonorable or outright criminal things in pursuit of marketing results, from disingenuous product pitches to illegal data harvesting.

    How do we balance the results we must generate with creating results we are proud of?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    Most ethics discussions revolve around moral values of good and bad, right and wrong, which can vary significantly depending on your spiritual, religious, and cultural backgrounds. To reconcile these variations and find a definition of ethics which is most compatible with varying morals, we’ll look at a perspective called utilitarian ethics, a perspective suggested by philosophers such as John Stuart Mill.

    Utilitarianism defines ethical practices as: Those practices that result in the greatest good and/or the greatest happiness for all.

    Thus, adapting this definition, ethics is marketing is to market in ways which create the greatest good, the greatest happiness for all.

    Examples of Ethical Failures in Marketing

    Based on this definition, what would be some examples of marketing successes, but ethical failures?

    • Achieving our marketing goals by making outrageous claims that earn clicks or leads, but making the lives of our sales and customer service teams miserable.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing and selling a product that causes more harm than good.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing with false claims but damaging our relationships with the media, with the public, or with government officials.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by polluting or destroying the environment around us.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by using data to target vulnerable customers and amplifying negative emotions to compel them to buy our product.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by spreading or amplifying false information to create emotional reactions in our ads.

    All these examples highlight ways in which marketing achieves success, but at the expense of others.

    Ethics in Marketing

    When we use our utilitarian definition of ethics, clear, concise definition, applying ethics in marketing becomes straightforward.

    First and foremost, does our product or service result in greater harm than good? If so, then we will have an awfully hard time marketing it using ethical practices because its very existence is harmful. In a situation where our product or service is inherently harmful, we should probably find work elsewhere. This is something I struggled with for years when I was working in the student loan industry. Ultimately, my solution was to try to get people to do everything possible not to use our product, but then offer them the product as a last resort and educate them on the consequences of it. In the end, however, I ended up leaving the field to work somewhere else.

    Second, many marketing practices have little to no ethical impact. For example, much ado was made of the fact that a notable social media influencer didn’t write all of their own social media posts. Other social media practitioners decried that as inauthentic. Is the use of a ghostwriter ethical? If the posts were helpful, if the posts provided value, then the practice was ethical in the sense that it was doing the maximum good possible, even if the influencer wasn’t writing a single one. All that was required was that the authors of his posts were creating the maximum amount of good, as much or more than the influencer. If the influencer could only afford to write 2 posts a day that benefitted his audience, but his ghostwriter could write 10 of the same quality, then by definition he brought 5x more good to the world.

    Third, some marketing practices are clearly unethical. For example, if we lie about what our product does and the consumer ends up finding out the reality after purchase, we’re creating unhappiness. We’re doing harm. If we tell the truth about our product or service and set realistic expectations, our customers will be happier because we meet their expectations. Behaving in an ethical manner is the cornerstone of long-term profitability! Create more happiness rather than less, do more good rather than less, and it’s inevitable that people will want our product in their lives more.

    Finally, remember that the definition and ideal to strive for is to do the greatest good possible, which means minimizing or eliminating harm when and where possible. What if we’re confronted with a situation where a small amount of harm is generated, or significant harm to a tiny number of people, and a large amount of good results? Our goal is to explore ways to remove that harm, and to find a better way to achieve the same result with less harm done. What if marketing adopted the Hippocratic oath – first, do no harm? How would your marketing change?

    If we set our goals to require that we create the maximum amount of good possible, there’s a strong chance that we’ll create innovative new ways of doing the same old things. That eventually leads to transformation of our products, services, practices, and company, a transformation that we will be proud of, proud to market as loudly as possible to the world. Do enough good, create enough happiness, and the world will want us to win.

    Disclosure: this post was written in 2012 and has been updated to remain relevant.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    Talesa asks, “What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, quarterly, yearly, even daily?”

    Start with this simple question: what do you need to make decisions on at those frequencies? What decisions do you need to make daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly? That guides what data you need to look at – and then I recommend building Google Data Studio dashboards to pull out and highlight those data points, and then schedule regular emails from Data Studio.

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    In today’s episode to Lisa asks, What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, daily, yearly, even? What monthly, daily, quarterly, yearly, etc? Start with a simple question, what decisions do you need to make at those frequencies? Right? What decisions do you need to make every day, every week, every month, every quarter every year? chances are there’s some pretty typical data points you need for things like setting budgets, making calendars, etc.

    Those decisions should then drive what reporting you’re looking at.

    One of the critical mistakes people make with tools like Google Analytics is they just dive in, start clicking around, find a bunch of stuff and consume the data consume the analytics, but they don’t.

    They don’t have any reason for doing other than to look around accepted periods of time when they got to do like a quarterly reporting or something like a quarterly board reviews, etc.

    and not having a very clear purpose and function.

    Not having a very clear idea of what you want to use the data for means that it tends to become very onerous.

    And Google Analytics is a fantastic application.

    I love it.

    It is the backbone of a lot of the work that we do at Trust Insights.

    But it’s a lot of information.

    And so the first thing you need to do is figure out what exact information you need from it.

    And then I would say, don’t use Google Analytics.

    Be like, Okay, wait, you just said you loved belt.

    Don’t use it for reporting.

    Google Analytics is a great tool for analysis.

    Hence, the name is a great tool for data collection.

    It is not a great tool for reporting.

    The tool you want to look at for reporting is Google Data Studio, which is a dashboarding tool that plugs into Google Analytics natively.

    allows you to extract just the pieces and bits that you need in order to make decisions and put them on dashboards.

    So, based on the decisions you need to make, like I need to make monthly reports on these topics, or I need to make decisions about my SEO program for the next month, or I need to make a budgeting decision on advertising.

    Every week.

    Make write out a list, maybe start a spreadsheet or a Word document or something like that.

    Have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly.

    Make a list of what questions you need to answer or what decisions you need to make.

    And then identify the key data points within Google Analytics that answer those questions.

    If you’re saying like I need to judge my, my, my ad effectiveness for display ads, okay, great.

    You need to get data about display advertisement performance from Google Analytics and you can then make a list up like the channel grouping that you want Or the source, medium, etc.

    and then build a Data Studio dashboard for each of those key questions.

    So you might have a daily dashboard for daily questions you need to answer, weekly dashboard monthly dashboard quarterly dashboard yearly dashboard.

    And the reason to do this is you want those dashboards to be distilled down to the data points you need to make decisions on, and then have them be pre built so that when it comes time to make that decision, you know, like, I gotta, you know, take two hours to go trawling through Google Analytics and get the data points from everywhere, don’t just go to the dashboard that you made, put the work in up front to get the great reporting structure, and then just go in and grab the information that you need to make those decisions.

    I also recommend with Data Studio, you can schedule it to email you.

    And this obviously lacks the internet interactivity of the real dashboard.

    But more than anything, it’s just a good way to remember yourself to actually look at those dashboards.

    If you know that you have a quarterly board review coming up at the end of every quarter, that a week before have Data Studio drop, essentially an email reminder in your inbox saying, Hey, here’s the data.

    And again, that will help you help reduce those last minute crunches when it comes to dealing with reporting asks, right because the you built the dashboard, the data is there.

    And you can, you can take the time then to do your analysis, to derive your insights from it rather than just copying and pasting and, and ignoring the data.

    That’s probably the most impactful thing you can do use tools like Google Analytics and Google Data Studio to get the data together.

    And then the time that you would have spent clicking around and taking screenshots and Google Analytics and stuff, it is time you can now spend doing actual analysis to say hey, These are the trends we see.

    And here’s what this means.

    And here’s how it impacts the business.

    Here’s the decisions that either we’re going to make, or the decisions we need approvals on TrustInsights.ai One of the things we have is called the st reporting framework, which is just a five part structure about how all reports should start.

    And then you customize it customize, which is summary of the stakeholder has two minutes, they should read that the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happen, the next steps as to what decisions you need made, and then the timeline, the timeline of those decisions.

    And by focusing down into that very clear framework, you can eliminate a lot of fluff that goes into reports.

    And the reports purpose is clear.

    Either you’re giving someone a report to to obtain a decision or you’re presenting a decision and waiting for them to effectively negated override it either way By being that focused in your reporting, it’s very clear what it is that the reports purposes.

    And again, I can’t emphasize enough, have those dashboards in place so that you don’t need to run the reports.

    They’re just pulling data all the time.

    Anytime somebody opens the thing up, that will save you enormous amounts of time I was doing some client work the other day, and I put on my agenda of, you know, send report monthly reporting to this client for some of their SEO stuff.

    And I’m like, I could just build a Data Studio dashboard.

    And then every month, send, have it automated, send them a reminder, like, Hey, your reports ready.

    There’s no extra work for building the report every month.

    Now I can invest my time for that client, something more valuable to them, which is doing the analysis of it, and giving them recommendations or suggestions or asking them for decisions like hey, I noticed this thing slipped here.

    How do you want to optimize that page? Or I noticed this page is doing really well.

    Maybe you should add it to add some paid dollars behind it to boost it.

    That’s the that’s the value that you bring as an analyst or as a data scientist.

    It’s not regurgitating data.

    It is presenting your interpretation of the data, and the ways you think it will help the business grow.

    So use the tools, use the schedulers, save time, and then and then use the saves time to add additional value that the report alone can convey.

    That would be my best recommendations for Google Analytics reporting.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science and Executive Buy-In?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science and Executive Buy-In?

    Albert asks, “What is the best way to sell the idea of marketing data science to executives that don’t see its value, without making them lose face or look bad?”

    Generally speaking, most executives want the same things – save money, save time, make money. Without pointing out specific failures, look for opportunities where a campaign has gone off the rails because decisions were made that went in the face of data, and share how proper use of the scientific method could have saved the campaign or prevented the mistakes in the first place.

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    In today’s episode and Albert asks, What is the best way to sell the idea of marketing data science to executives that don’t see it’s value without making them lose face or look bad? So data science is a practice, right? There’s nothing really to buy.

    It is a methodology using the scientific method, and technical, mathematical and business skills.

    And so it blends in pretty well with pretty much anything that’s going on in an organization that has data and wants to get more value out of it.

    Generally speaking, is is not always true for all organizations and people but generally speaking, most executives want the same things right.

    They want get their bonus, they don’t want to look bad, they don’t want get fired.

    And fundamentally, it comes down to wanting to save time.

    Save money or make money, right? Those are kind of the three big levers that most executives want to be able to have at their disposal.

    How can I make this go faster? How can I think make things more efficient? How can I make things more productive? And this is true across, you know, almost every industry and discipline.

    So there’s a couple different ways you can sell in the idea of data science to an organization first is, you know, without pointing out specific failures, unless they’re pretty high profile, and everyone knows it, or ideally, pointed out competitors, failures, people like that a whole lot more.

    look for opportunities where campaign went off the rails because people made decisions that went in the face of data went in the face of proper analysis.

    You can see when a competitor has a misstep, and you’re like, you know, if only they had actually done some research and And not put out an ad or campaign or creative or an email that was so tone deaf or out of step with a marketplace.

    That’s how you can point out the value of data science to somebody who doesn’t necessarily understand it.

    A lot of the times you don’t get buy in for a few reasons, right you one is they don’t understand what it is they’re buying.

    Two is they feel there’s too much risk.

    And three, there’s not enough upside.

    If they feel there’s too much risk, it’s because they don’t understand it is because they don’t understand in this case, a discipline way of thinking right there’s you’re not selling somebody a piece of software.

    Yes, there are software costs or agency costs or whatever.

    Once you make a commitment to go down that route, but the principles of data science the discipline of data scientists That’s that its way of thinking.

    So when you look at a competitor that’s made a misstep and made a decision that flies in the face of data, share how proper use of the scientific method could have saved that campaign, it could have prevented the mistakes in the first place.

    Oh, you put out a an advertisement for a certain thing on a day that was culturally insensitive, right, that’s a clearly doing something in in the face of known data.

    And it’s a way to say to somebody Look, this is if you just done a little bit of work, and run a small test to an to an audience to prove the value or to prove effectiveness, then you can will have a big one.

    That’s the scientific method, right? You test with a hypothesis, proven true or false, refine it, and repeat over and over again until you figure out what really works.

    That’s the essence of data science.

    It’s just the scientific method using your data.

    So for buy in Focus on the competitors.

    Find the lever that works for the executive.

    And ultimately, show them how you would have done things differently.

    And when it comes to launching your first data science initiatives within the company, look for small, easy things to start with.

    Right? Don’t try and build a massive, massive infrastructure.

    say let’s I want to use the scientific method properly, to AB test, a call to action on the website, right? So that way you can use existing tools like Google Optimize, that can handle the test, collect and analyze phases of the scientific method.

    I say I’m just looking to try and improve conversion rates on that button there by 2%.

    It’s very, it would be very difficult for an executive to say okay, you want to improve conversion rates on one little thing for a short period of time, with no investment.

    What do they got to lose? Right, using industry proven tools, find that pilot and if you happen to deliver more than 2%, great.

    If you don’t, they’re not out anything and you can say, yeah, we ran an experiment, we proved that there is no value in changing the color of the call to action.

    Right? That’s easy.

    That’s simple.

    That is understandable.

    People can wrap their brains around that and go, Okay, we’re just going to run a test to try and improve conversion a little bit here.

    Right? Run AV test in email, and look at your calendar, look at your organization and say, Okay, we’re going to do this at the least busy time, so that we’re not you know, don’t do it.

    Like if you’re a retailer and you’re and you want to embrace data science, don’t do it in the middle of the holiday season, right? Do it after the holidays, do it when it’s quiet and you’re still getting some traffic and stuff, but your whole company’s future is not hindering on it.

    That way, people again, you’re trying to mitigate risk.

    You’re trying to reassure people that this is a relatively risk free way of thinking about using your data.

    So there’s a lot of different ways to approach this.

    It depends ultimately on your company’s culture, and their appetite for risk and your ability to present a low or no risk set of use cases that are small in size that will let them see some benefit but not terrified people.

    All right.

    Good question, Albert.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    Oz asks, “There’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid: should Google even have all that data? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods?”

    Two points I think are super important: minimum viable data, and behavior rather than PII. Marketers who want to save time, save money, and avoid risk need to adopt both practices. Let’s talk through what these mean and how they’d come to life.

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    In today’s episode AWS asks, there’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid.

    Should Google even have all the data it collects on consumers? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods.

    So there’s a lot to unpack here.

    But fundamentally, the big technology companies have acquired data largely through us giving it to them, even if we’re not aware of what it is they’re doing or how they’re doing it.

    And by aggregating data, using all the different technology at their disposal, should they have it? The off the cuff remark that I made when I was asked this question on LinkedIn is that data collections a lot like sex in that if everyone is a willing and informed and competent partner and gives consent then it’s fine.

    It’s where you run into trouble when you try and hide things when you try and make your Terms of Service onerous when you try and make data removal, onerous, effectively withdrawing consent that you get into more frankly, ethical violations when you prevent somebody from willingly withdrawing consent.

    Again, just like the sex now that’s a bad thing to do.

    I hope that would be obvious to everybody but but obviously with a lot of the legislation is happening, it’s not.

    And marketers who are self aware enough to realize that cooperating and respecting consumers rights is in the long term best interests, apparently are not as common as I like to think.

    So I think there’s two ways to deal with this today, in which marketers can be more effective and mitigate risk than before.

    Actually they’re going to be some bad apples that are will ruin a lot of stuff.

    So we need to, again prepare for that in advance.

    So there’s two ways of this minimum viable data and behavior based data.

    So let’s tackle these Minimum Viable data means you do an analysis using the best technology available to you to figure out what variables actually matter to the outcome you care about whether it’s conversion, lead generation E, commerce, checkout, you’re collecting all this data.

    We all are.

    And the question is, is any of it relevant? Does having somebody whose age and weight and whatever have a mathematical relationship to the outcome that we care about? The answer is no, we stopped collecting it.

    Right? There’s no reason to collect something that if we can mathematically prove has no relationship to the outcome we care about.

    There’s no reason to collect that data.

    That data is a liability.

    That data is a lawsuit waiting to Because when and I mean this seriously when you are breached, and it will happen to every company.

    At some point in some fashion, you want the minimum viable data there.

    It should be encrypted.

    But even if it wasn’t if it was only two or three data points as opposed to every piece information on a consumer, your risk is lower.

    Right? So we want to run that analysis for minimum viable data.

    The second thing is to focus a lot more on behavior and a lot less on static information.

    A lot of marketers rely on things like demographic or firma graphic data, you know, this person is 23 years old, they’re Jewish, they’re male, they’re, they live in this place.

    And again, if no one’s actually done any analysis to prove that this data has relevance, we may just be acquiring a whole bunch of it for no reason.

    But more importantly, behavior matters a lot more than static.

    The example I use all the time is my little pony, right? If you are a marketer, and you think my little pony is something that will girls eight to 13 would collect you into focus your marketing focus your efforts.

    I gotta buy data for households that have that information.

    But if you focus on behavior look at who buys this stuff, there’s a whole segment of guys 26 to 40 who love this universe and have a way more disposable income than eight year old you would miss that you would miss the their very existence because you’d be so busy marketing what you think the market is as opposed to paying attention, paying attention to people’s data, to their behaviors to their, what they do less about who they are more about, what is it that they do? How often are they browsing a website? What are they putting in their shopping carts, etc, etc.

    So we need to pivot as an industry away from buying identities and more towards paying attention to behaviors.

    Take your website does, it doesn’t actually matter.

    If you run the analysis of your own Google Analytics doesn’t actually matter that you know, someone’s age, or gender, or even topical preferences.

    If you’ve never done the analysis, you may or may not find it relevant.

    I know on my own website, it’s a lot more important to know which pages somebody visits on the way to conversion, then necessarily who they are.

    If I can remarket and retarget.

    Instead of towards an identity, I can just remark it towards everybody who’s visited the About Me page, because I know from a mathematical assessment that that is one of the top pages people visit before they convert.

    If I can do that, I’ll get much better results than trying to market to only 35 43 year old men, I want to focus on every has been to the page because they all have the same intent.

    I don’t care who you are, if your intent is you want to hire me to speak at your event or you want to hire Trust Insights to fix your data problems.

    And this pattern of three pages that people visit is the pattern, I want to encourage you to go through that pattern, I want to change my navigation to encourage that pattern.

    I want to change my remarketing to encourage that pattern of behaviors.

    When you do stuff, particularly on properties that you own, you need to collect much less data.

    And you don’t need to collect any identifying data you just need to be able to say that person is following behavioral pattern we know leads to conversion let’s keep encouraging them.

    Doesn’t matter who it is wait for them to give information by filling out a form or whatever.

    And then respecting their privacy respecting their their data because again, Most of the time, for most of the situation, we don’t need a whole lot more than just basic contact information so that when the person fills out the form, we can get back in touch with them.

    That’s about it.

    Don’t need much else.

    I fundamentally, for a lot of the marketing that I do, I really need an email address and maybe a phone number.

    That’s it.

    Not much else has proven statistically valid in the data that I was collecting.

    So there you have it.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here because there is going to be a reckoning for marketing.

    If marketing doesn’t get its act together and figure out how to analyze the data it’s collecting, and then how to discard the data that doesn’t need any more.

    But a really good question magine they’ll be more follow up questions in the comments, but please leave it here.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI?”

    Something I say in all my keynotes: AI is math, not magic. There’s no magic here. AI is just the application of mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    In turn, that means AI can’t do things that fundamentally aren’t math at their core. When we do NLP, that turns words into math. When we recognize an image, that turns pixels into math. Something fundamentally non-math, like emotions, is out of reach of AI.

    It also means AI can’t do anything not in its training data.

    AI is narrow in scope and task right now because the math of one situation can be quite different from another. Artificial general intelligence is a long way off still.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI? Oh, there’s so many to choose from.

    Fundamentally, and this is something that I say in all the keynote talks I give on the topic.

    At its core AI is math, not magic.

    It is just the application of advanced mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    When you decompose major algorithms and all these really cool techniques, you’re still just doing math.

    Something like for example, extreme gradient boosting, at the end of the day, boils down to some filtering, and regression.

    Statistical regression, it’s very well done.

    It is execute on data that is far beyond human capacities to do.

    But it’s still just math.

    And it’s relatively simple math at that, once you get past all the distillation pass all the the gradient descent and stuff like that.

    take away all of the mystique, and you’re left with a pile of math.

    And that makes Ai no different in many ways and other mathematical tools that were used to like calculators and spreadsheets.

    Right? If you think about AI is a spreadsheet and just a really, really fancy one.

    Then you suddenly it does take away the mystique and the the cool factor, right? Oh, it’s just like a spreadsheet.

    But then you think okay, what are the limitations of spreadsheets? They can’t do things that aren’t math.

    I guess you could In, do some limited things and some like cute illustrations and maybe a table of non math data.

    But at the end of the day, it still is a computation engine.

    And that’s what AI is, which means that AI can’t do things that are not fundamentally math at their core.

    If you take the advanced techniques that exist in AI, natural language processing, at its core, it’s it’s still math, you take words, assign numbers to them, and then do math on the numbers.

    And that’s what natural language processing is.

    It’s one of the reasons why, even though some of the models out there like GPT-2, or distill or Excel net, or all these things are so cool, and can autocomplete paragraphs or even documents.

    There’s still just doing math, they’re still doing probability.

    And it’s one of the reasons why if you were to type in, you know, two plus two equals the words into all these things, they’re going to predict An outcome that shows they don’t have any actual understanding of the words.

    They’re just doing math on probability.

    And so you end up with some pretty lame examples of, of how these things can’t reason they can’t understand truly.

    The math is just doing forecasting and prediction, statistical probability.

    If I write the words, you know, what do you believe about, it’s going to come up with probabilities about what the next word in that sentence is going to be for the next sentence.

    When you do image recognition, it’s trending pixels in a math and tactically pixel already math.

    There’s, if you look at a sensor on a camera, a digital camera, there are three color sensors on each pixel.

    And they’re either lit up or they’re not lit up.

    And again, it’s mathematics.

    And so when you’re recognizing an image or looking for a face in a video or brand new Go still just mathematics.

    Even the most advanced image recognition algorithms functionally are like, distillers.

    I explained this in one of my keynotes as well, if you were to take all that image data and boil down to a pattern that the machine can recognize, in many ways, it’s no different than taking a bunch of, you know, grain mash and stuff like that or beer and distilling it over and over again until you get whiskey.

    Right.

    That’s what deep learning is.

    It’s distillation of data.

    It’s not anything magical.

    All this means that something that is fundamentally non mathematical in nature, like emotion or reasoning, or even logic, human logic machine logic is fundamentally out of reach of today’s AI machine cannot understand How you feel it can make probabilistic guesses about the words that you use to describe your emotions, but it cannot feel it cannot understand.

    And therefore it can’t do things like empathy.

    Because it’s simply a non mathematical thing, at least with today’s technology.

    Now, that may change in the years ahead when we do have access to vastly larger amounts of computing with stuff like quantum computing, but this is still years off.

    From today, as I record this, when we understand that AI is nothing more than a spreadsheet, it also means we understand that AI can’t do anything not in its training data, right? If you don’t put it in the data to for the AI to learn from, it can’t create it, it can’t create something from nothing.

    Now, if you have some of these really large models like the GPT tos of the world, they’ve trained on a tremendous amount of text and so much more than a single human could ever learn in their lifetime.

    And that’s where Uc AI seemingly creating things they create, because they have a much larger knowledge base to draw from.

    But they’re not creating anything new.

    They can’t create something that is never been seen before.

    All of AI is currently what’s called narrow, narrow and applications focused on a specific task.

    Because creating a general purpose AI, or artificial general intelligence.

    There’s no model for life.

    Not today.

    There may be at some point, but if you think about back to the math example, if you’ve got a spreadsheets all decked out to do accounting, and you try and get that spreadsheet without making substantial adaptations to do calorie counting, even though they’re both math, they’re very different tasks, and they use very different formulas underneath.

    And so you can see how, how difficult it would be to make a spreadsheet that could easily do calorie counting and five ads and virus prediction and ROI of marketing, it will be so difficult to come up with a model that was universal though.

    We don’t have that capability in machines.

    We have it as humans, because our brains are massive parallel computers.

    But machines can’t do that.

    So, when we talk about misconceptions people have about AI.

    It is fundamentally that it is not a system of magic.

    It can’t create something that doesn’t exist.

    And it can’t do things it wasn’t trained to do for the most part outside of a specific domain.

    It’s math, not magic.

    Good question.

    We could go on for quite some time about this topic.

    So let’s leave it at that.

    If you have follow up questions about it or you have misconceptions of your own, or think you believe that are your own and that you would like some clarification on leave in the comments here.

    Be happy to do follow up questions on this topic about more specifics.

    misconceptions and AI.

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