Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    You Ask, I Answer: Which Technologies Will Thrive During a Pandemic?

    The obvious ones: video conferencing software, webinar software, VPNs and other security software. Non-obvious: cloud office software, because IT can’t come to your house to fix things. Cloud IT management software. Pretty much cloud anything because again, IT can’t come to your house, and if it’s in a browser, IT can manage it. We’re also going to see new use cases of drones and other automation, like physical plant security. In marketing specifically, it’ll be video, content marketing, and analytics. Content marketing should surge forward for the savvy marketers. Video and audio production will soar. And analytics will be an essential ingredient for managing ROI in a recession.

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    In today’s episode sangra masks what technologies will be essential as the world goes virtual for a few months due to the pandemic? Well, for starters, the obvious ones anything collaboration related, so video conferencing, webinars, virtual conferences, all those things that people need in order just to be able to have meetings and be able to get work done.

    Things like Google suite for for the office, LogMeIn, GoToMeeting and GoToWebinar you name it.

    If it’s a type of communication software, it’s going to do well slack.

    For example, I expect slack to do extremely well during this period.

    Non obvious stuff is going to be cloud stuff cloud office software, because guess what, it can’t come to your house, right? I mean, for a variety of reasons, but especially during a pandemic, they’re not going to be traveling out to make house calls.

    So as long as you have a great computer with a functional browser, and good enough internet, you’re going to have be relying heavily on cloud software.

    So Cloud office software, cloud IT management software, cloud antivirus, you know, all things cloud.

    Because again, it can’t come to your house.

    technologies like faster internet, by any means whether it is 5g, which is still too early for almost everyone, or just faster Wi Fi, I would expect to see some change out of things like routers and Wi Fi access points, as people realize that the thing that has been collecting dust in the corner of their living room for the last five years is a little out of date.

    And picking up with the faster stuff I had a router at my house here that I’ve just replaced not too long ago, and it was a substantial change in speeds.

    So again, it’s all infrastructure stuff.

    I think there’s A lot of knock on effects for infrastructure that we have will not see until you know, I’m we’re through the pandemic period.

    But it’ll be good for the technology companies that make infrastructure stuff like you know, Netgear, Cisco Systems, etc.

    Now, we’re going to see some interesting use cases of automation, and specifically physical things like drones, or Boston, robotics, their spot drones, the walking dog like drones, because many things like physical plant security, things that you can’t really do virtually, solely virtual, you need to have something there.

    That is, you know, walking the perimeter, doing security sweeps, etc.

    And let’s be honest, if you’re breaking into somebody’s warehouse, and you see a giant 300 pound robot dog, you’re probably going to not do that.

    Cuz you don’t know what that thing is what the thing is capable of except that you know, can run really, really fast.

    But all things, drones and automation, we are already seeing some knock on effects in delivery services companies saying that they will do things like dropping off a, a delivery or an order of food or whatever just on the front porch so that you don’t have to physically interact with another human being, which again, is a good thing because that’s where contagion spreads.

    So I would expect to see some progress, not a ton, but some progress made in delivery drones, not flying ones, just the little rolling ones.

    We’ve seen proof of concept from Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut where they have a rolling robot that just rolls up to the side of your, your sidewalk, and you walk out with your phone and you scan your code and it opens up and gives you your pizza.

    I would expect to see more things like that.

    Because those are clearly use cases that are simple.

    Those are use cases that make a lot of sense.

    The same as For within very specific contexts, some autonomous vehicles not driving people around for like, you know, replacing your Ubers but within a very specific limited context like just being able to ferry somebody from one point to another without another a second human in the vehicle, and I would not expect to see a lot of that in marketing specifically.

    I expect to see growth in three areas, I expect to see growth in all things video, whether it is video software, using Camtasia for example, for this video, video hardware, again cameras and and such as people discover that webcam they’ve been holding on to since 2012, doesn’t quite cut the mustard anymore for high quality video chat, audio equipment, of course, expect to see some of that even if it’s just you know, simple things like simple headsets, you would expect to see some some changes being made there.

    All things content.

    So, content marketing, blogging, white paper is all the graphics and creation tools again, all the cloud based things services like Canva.

    I would expect to do well, podcasting might expect to do extremely well.

    podcasting has already been on a tear for the last few years, I’d expect to see podcasting do extremely well in the next two years.

    So as people looking for things to do, can ask their their smart devices paila marketing over coffee podcast, so expect to see some of that there.

    And then the third area in marketing specifically is analytics.

    I expect to see all things analytics do extremely well for two reasons.

    One, the pandemic is going to be accompanied by a recession.

    Very little doubt about that.

    And with a recession comes a relentless focus on ROI.

    So with that, you need analytics to understand the ROI of what it is that your company is doing.

    And to because so much will have gone virtual And so much will have gone digital.

    It’s a lot easier to measure when, you know, we always talk about how do you differentiate and understand the value of non digital interactions like, you know, shopping at the mall or face to face meetings? Well, for three months, you’re going to have a huge testbed that will essentially tell you, here’s the, here’s the Delta, of taking away that now there’s a lot of confounding factors.

    So don’t try to do a simple regression that will not go well.

    But because all that activity will be moved to virtual, you will have much, many more opportunities to measure it.

    So and see how the click stream works.

    See how people hop from channel to channel.

    So things like customer journey mapping will become very informative, as you have so much more data in the digital realm because people will be doing much less in the physical realm.

    All of these trends are all of these matters.

    Grow activities, I think will change how we do work.

    Because we will find that, well, to get business done, we don’t necessarily need to have an office, we don’t necessarily need to have a physical building to go to just to sit in meetings, we will find that we get just as much or just as little done in virtual meetings as we do in real meetings, right.

    If you want for fun, you’ll want to get out the the conference called bingo cards, because even though it’s 2020 people still have a tough time sometimes operating the telephone, there’ll be a lot of you Can anyone hear me this on all that stuff.

    So expect that have a little fun with it, maybe make it into a drinking game.

    And, and we’ll see how much the sticks around after business resumes in you know, in the next three to six months, as we as we get past the initial phase of the pandemic and start assessing the overall impacts but things like more automation, more cost efficiencies, more clouds Based things.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that.

    I think we’ll see a lot of that continuing on companies saying, Hey, we saved a lot of money.

    By having people working from their homes.

    One of the reasons why Trust Insights is a virtual company is because it is enormous cost savings to not have to pay rent for an office.

    And for the work, we do need to have an office that don’t think other than, you know, maybe a couple of meetings at other people’s offices.

    Never had to host anybody for a business meeting.

    Maybe they’ll stick with my dining room table.

    The dog, say hello to them.

    But that’s, that’s what technologies are going to be essential.

    All things cloud VPN security software, gonna be really important to make sure that security is being maintained well, cloud and then on the marketing, side, video, audio content and analytics.

    So good question.

    Lots of plan ahead for again, ahead of it.

    Now, if your infrastructure is not ready, you need to be accelerating plans.

    Look at SAS based companies that allow you to swipe the credit card and just get going right away as opposed to you know, long pitch process because it literally is days that you have in places as we see offices and schools and things closing down you will not have a long time so look at all the SAS software companies that just let you swipe a credit card and get going.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: B2B Marketing Lead Tracking with Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: B2B Marketing Lead Tracking with Google Analytics?

    Anonymous asks, “In B2B marketing, how do I track a lead from a paid ad to a conversion?”

    The process requires great Google Analytics setup and tagging, nothing more, at least to the point of conversion. To the point of sale, that requires a good CRM and potentially a marketing automation system.

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    In today’s episode, anonymous asks, in B2B, how do I track a lead from paid ads conversion? So, quick note about the anonymous thing, we have a form over on the Trust Insights website.

    It’s called Ask a silly question.

    And it’s intended to ask questions that you might not feel comfortable asking, sticking your name next to it.

    Some of those things like, I probably should know this, but I don’t.

    So this is one of those questions.

    The answer to this question is fairly straightforward.

    It requires two things great Google Analytics setup, and Google Analytics tagging.

    When you do both properly, you can measure up to the point of a form fill, and possibly a little bit afterwards in any b2b or b2c marketing setup.

    So the way it typically works is you would make sure that you have goals and goal values set up in Google Analytics that are set to whatever your conversion is like downloading a white paper or requesting a demo or filling out the Contact Us form.

    those goals would be things you would track and Google Analytics and would be indicators.

    Somebody crossed the line the finish line, and did the thing that you wanted them to do.

    On the paid ad side, you would use Google’s UTM tracking codes.

    Call it stands for urgent Tag Manager from way, way, way back in the day, 15 years ago, when Google bought urgent analytics and turned it into Google Analytics.

    So those UTM tracking codes, you would indicate the source, the medium and the campaign and possibly some other details in order to be able to assign where traffic came from that converted.

    So in any standard paid ad, you would make the UTM source whatever the network is like Facebook or Google ads or Bing Ads or whatever The medium would almost certainly be CPC for paid search, paid social for paid social display, CPV or CPA for cost per acquisition or cost per view for display advertising.

    And then the campaign, whatever the campaign name is, white paper 2020 or whatever, whatever your whatever it is you’re doing.

    Those two things combined, allow you to see leads that you’ve acquired from your paid ads and assess the performance of ads.

    If you have a goal value set up in Google Analytics, it’ll even give you then the estimated inferred revenue for what those conversions are generating.

    Now, the one thing Google Analytics does not do out of the box, and it’s something you need is track personally identifiable information and in fact, it’s explicitly disallowed.

    Terms of Service.

    So if you want to track an individual person from a paid ad to a conversion, you will have to use at least a CRM that integrates with Google Analytics and potentially a marketing automation system, something like, you know, par.or, Marketo or Eloqua, or, like with Oracle Marketing Cloud now Mautic, Hubspot, any of the major marketing automation software packages can integrate with Google Analytics and allow you to track an individual person from wherever they came from, like a paid ad to into your CRM, and then potentially even whether that business closes or not, to be able to understand the performance of an ad at a revenue level.

    That requires a lot more setup that requires extensive integration and proper configuration of all the tools.

    So if you need data in the aggregate, like how well are my favorites, adds to it how well my LinkedIn ads doing Google Analytics and Google UTM.

    tracking codes is the way to go.

    And it’s very straightforward, if you need the individually identifiable information requires a lot more setup from Google Analytics, and the UTM tracking codes to marketing automation to CRM.

    Now, the next question need to ask is What are you going to do with that information? tracking it tracking leads is great, and it’s important, we should definitely do it.

    But the bigger question is, what decisions will you make from that information? Will you change your ads? If you find ads or some ads are less effective than others? That’s an important decision to be able to make.

    Do we need to change the messaging? Are we on the right network? So in the right place where people are, do we have the right audience? Do we have the right offer? Generally speaking, when it comes to ads and tracking and decisions, there’s going to be three decisions They’re gonna make and this references Bob stones 1968 direct marketing framework used to say lists offer creative in that order, do the right list, meaning your audience do the right offer.

    And you have the right creative when it comes to paid ads, same exact thing applies.

    Are you advertising to the right people? Google Analytics can give you some of that information.

    But the paid ads system you’re using probably will give you more of that information.

    But it’s certainly if you’re just kind of going broad.

    With advertising, you will not get great performance advertising today works much better with a very specific audience in mind.

    So make sure that when you’re setting up your tracking codes, you’re tracking which list you are or which audience you’re going after.

    If you’ve got the right people, then the next step is do you have the right offer? Do you have an offer that’s compelling to those people and that’s something that, again, Google Analytics will not tell you that.

    In fact, nothing will tell you that except something like a focus group.

    Or a survey of your target audience to say, hey, if you need analytics consulting, what kind do you need getting information from your audience that way? And then the last, of course, is the creative, you have the right images, copy and all those things.

    One of the things that people do wrong with this type of tracking is that well, a two things.

    One, they don’t make decisions at all.

    And two, if they do, it’s usually on the creative side and not looking at the list and the offer side.

    Bob stones framework clearly says, make sure you’re advertising to the right people first, because you’re not nothing else matters.

    You can have the best offer, you can have the most beautiful creative and if you’re targeting the wrong audience, nothing matters.

    So address your testing based on your analytics from that perspective list first, then audience then creative.

    So to sum up, if you only care about conversion to like a form Google Analytics and Google Analytics UTM tracking are the way to go set it up properly.

    And you’ll be able to track everything that you need from beginning from the source of your traffic to the thing that they did.

    If you need identifiable information, you’ll need to integrate your marketing automation and CRM system.

    And if you’re going to make great decisions, make sure that you spend some time learning how UTM tracking codes work.

    And in fact, you can search this on my YouTube channel and find other videos on UTM tracking codes, best practices, but make sure you’re using them well, because if you don’t, the data gets messed up.

    And unfortunately, you can never go back and fix it in Google Analytics.

    So anonymous.

    Hopefully this answers your question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    You Ask, I Answer: Starting Marketing From Scratch?

    Katy asks, “What’s one thing you would do and one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch?”

    I’d avoid rushing in, and I’d start with an overall 6W strategic plan.
    – Why would anyone buy what we have to sell?
    – Who do I have available in terms of talent?
    – What tactics are available to us?
    – When do we need to start generating results?
    – Where will we be marketing?
    – How will we measure success?

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    In today’s episode, Katie asks, What’s one thing you would do? And one you wouldn’t if you could build your marketing from scratch? Well, the one thing I wouldn’t do is just rush right in and start doing things, right.

    That’s generally not a recipe for success anytime except perhaps in like life threatening situations.

    But what I would do is an overall strategic marketing plan.

    Because as much as sometimes I might dislike planning, you gotta do it.

    You got to do if you want to be successful, and you want to be able to say yes and no to the right things, because that’s really what a plan does.

    A plan gives you the ability to say no to things that don’t matter to say yes, things do matter, and to help you prioritize, so what would be in this filling out this one thing it would be the six W’s right? Who, what, where, when, why and how.

    And it would be number one overall business golden strategy Why would anyone buy what we have to sell? And this part takes a lot of time as it should because you have to be real clear that you have to real clear on your unique selling proposition.

    My friend Ann Handley says if the logo fell off would anyone know it’s you? It’s a fantastic way of expressing is the logo fell off? Would anyone know it was you take any given product or service? Would someone note was uniquely your companies or could it be any company in your space? So gotta solve for that first.

    Second, who do I have available as talent? This can be employees this can be partners this can be agencies can even be customers.

    rank for user generated content.

    But you got to know who, who you got and what they can do.

    Because if you don’t, you can’t choose your tactics.

    Well, you have to be able to know what the palette looks like.

    Number three, what tactics are available to us.

    If you know where you’re going, it’s a question of how you’re going to get there.

    Right? If you have a destination, you can fly, you can drive you could take a train maybe might take a boat could bicycle you could walk.

    And there are different measures based on your resources available, right? If you have no money, you can theoretically walk.

    If you have very limited amounts of money.

    You could bicycle or drive if you have got a lot of money, you could fly first class.

    The same is true for marketing.

    What do you have? What kinds of money do you have and what kinds of restrictions What kinds of content Do you already have? what’s available to you? Either regulatory things that prohibit you from doing certain tactics, you may not be able to use certain social media channels.

    For example, if you are in a highly regulated industry, or in a controversial industry, like if you’re in the cannabis industry, paid ads are generally not available to you on mainstream marketplaces.

    So, what are the tactics? Number four, when when do we need to start generating results? What’s the timeline? What does the company’s calendar look like? If you get into a new job and they say we need to be generating, you know, 200% more leads yesterday.

    Okay, if that’s if that’s what the company requires, and you’ve got to adjust what you’ve planned to fit that, but more than anything, you’re just getting started.

    Start building out a realistic timeline.

    What are you going to do in the first 30 days, the first 90 days the first quarter the first year.

    Knowing that timeline again helps you with resources like all things, you, if you don’t know how long you have, you may not be able to make great decisions.

    Again, example from the the travel thing, if you’re walking somewhere, it may take substantially longer than if you fly there.

    But if you’ve got the time you can afford to walk if you don’t have the time you have to fly or you won’t get there.

    Same is true for marketing.

    SEO, for example, is a fantastic way to generate long term results.

    Seo takes a lot of time, right? You won’t probably see any good results in the first 90 days.

    And you’ll start to see better results after the first couple of years of consistently generating a lot of content it takes time.

    Where will we be marketing right? So again, going sort of the channels, the capabilities Do you have a service area, your company geographically constrained? Again, these are all limits on what you Do so knowing these things is important.

    And finally, and my personal favorite, how will we measure success? If measurement is not part of your plan, it is not a plan.

    Right? It is a wish list measurement, analytics, data, insights, all that stuff is essential.

    How will you know that your marketing has been successful? If you don’t have a plan, played a way to measure it.

    So is it going to be Google Analytics, you’re going to be building dashboards? Are you going to need to create executive reports Do you report to a board of directors? Do you have to report results publicly right if you’re a publicly traded company, even if you’re not if you were in a new say a new startup, and they have aspirations to be publicly traded, then you should know that in advance so that you can plan And conform to the reporting requirements for publicly traded companies.

    All of these questions are things that need to be in your your overall strategic marketing plan.

    And if you do them, if you invest the time to build this plan, take your 30 6090 days to build a plan getting input from all your stakeholders getting input from your customers getting input from the audience that you want to serve doing surveys and focus groups and things you will come up with a a fantastic plan of all of them.

    I think that the to the people will struggle with the most of the unique selling proposition because a lot of companies out there have very generic products and services and the measurement of success.

    Again, marketers have not been great about measuring and making decisions from data.

    So those are the two areas where I think you’ll have the hardest time I think the most important So really good question, build a plan and avoid jumping in, avoid just starting to do stuff especially if you don’t have measurement in place.

    One of the critical mistakes I’ve seen people do is just keep doing what the company has been doing as soon as you get into the job without asking does this work? I mean to jump in and start building those social media calendars every every week’s calendar, it’s gonna take it four or five hours a week to do it.

    Great.

    Does it work? Otherwise, that’s four to five hours, you could be doing something else.

    So really good question.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 2 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 2 Recap

    A recap of a key idea from day 2 of Social Media Marketing World 2020: how are we using social media data in places other than social media? I answer a question asked of me yesterday about doing small business and local business marketing with social data, but offline to reach new audiences.

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    Is episode recapping day two of Social Media Marketing World, lots of good introductory sessions to talk to a number of attendees who were really happy with the show overall.

    And a lot of the introductory material a lot of the crowd is the show for the first time.

    And so we’re getting a lot of benefit from the basics, making sure that the basics are solid and in good condition, which is super important making sure that you are using the basics.

    Well.

    One of the more advanced ideas that came out of a bunch of conversations yesterday was using social media data in an offline way.

    So we tend to think Think of online and offline as these separate things, you spend a lot of time running ads content.

    And then you have things that are like out of home advertising, direct mail, phone calls.

    And we don’t really put the two audiences together, we don’t ever take insights from one and use it to inform the other.

    There is a place for offline there is a place for print, there’s a place for traditional advertising, you have to do it well.

    And you have to do it very efficiently.

    So you’re looking for maximizing your return on investment from will be higher cost, higher expense forms of outreach.

    But there is a place for particularly since there’s more bandwidth in the offline 20 years ago, or 30 years ago, your postal mailbox was stuffed full of garbage, right just junk mail.

    And the inbox was magical place where your friends message You flip that around now and now your inbox and your social inboxes.

    And common feeds are all stuffed with junk and more ads and you can count and your postal mailbox basically does bills, maybe the occasional magazine random like political advertisement.

    And that’s it.

    So the in the physical inbox is now a place of informations relative information scarcity.

    And there are other channels you can use to reach audiences in the physical world.

    I was talking to someone yesterday who works at a propane company.

    And they were saying like they’ve they’ve hit diminishing returns on their Facebook ads.

    They’re spending, spending spending and just not getting the kinds of results that they’re looking for.

    So I said, Well, how we how are you trying to reach people within your service area more efficiently? They said, Well, you know, just just keep running ads like Wally Ad inventory, particularly this time of year, meaning in an election year is super expensive because every political campaign on Facebook is spending like a drunken sailor onshore leaf to to attract attention, said what if you could reach those people in an offline way and in a way that might make a lot of sense.

    And they said, well, like how would you do that with Facebook data? So you go to Facebook in, go to Facebook, Audience Insights, type in the geography of the place that kaamika that comprises your service area, like San Diego, California, and then go to tab to and Facebook audiences.

    It’s called page likes.

    And you’ll see all the things that people in that community like and if you don’t see things that you’re are immediately obviously leaping out as to where your audience is, then go into interest on the left.

    hand side and type in the word pizza.

    And you will start to see things like popular pizza restaurants in your service area.

    Reach out to that restaurant.

    And because many pizza places do offer an advertising program and say how much would it cost me to attach physical flyers to pizza boxes that deliver in this service area? Now, the cost may be higher than Facebook ad maybe, but submit substantially lower than like a printed magazine that’s substantially lower than newspaper and you’re reaching places that you know your audience is paying attention, right when somebody orders a pizza.

    How’s the sheet paper, they at least look at it first.

    Before they toss the box, hopefully in recycling, I said so that’s a use case where you can take Facebook data to identify the pizza shop that people like in that area and work with that to distribute a message and the same was true like live music venues.

    Is there a place that has your audience that you could go and buy? Like the little advertisement? in the restroom? Right? Is there a mall? Is there a theater? Is there a local musician that you could sponsor? That is really part of your core audience.

    Amanda Robinson over the digital gal said that it’s best when you buy Facebook ads, you’re buying data, you’re not buying this performance, you’re buying access to data.

    But with Facebook Audience Insights, you don’t have to buy anything, you can go in and use the targeting tool and just learn more about who your audience is.

    Do it now while the information is still available, because this will get regulated, regulated out of existence at some point, I’m sure.

    But go in and learn about your audience.

    And then are there hooks that you can use to reach out into the community and the target audience you’re looking at specially for local businesses.

    Specially for local business, and work on building those relationships in the real world, Facebook can give you the guidance as to where in the real world you should be spending that time based on the popularity of the interests, people have places they check in.

    And then you can use a channel that is less crowded, like the physical location itself.

    So that’s an important more advanced takeaway from conversations I had at the show.

    I didn’t actually go to any sessions on on the second day, because again, most of them were very introductory.

    And that’s great as there’s some important thing.

    But a lot of folks that I did touch chat with had some advanced questions, more experienced practitioners had some advanced questions about how do I get more out of what it is we’re doing with social media data, and so I think that’s certainly one of the most useful and entertaining and insightful ways that I could have spent the day chatting, and seeing the kinds of questions people ask about the data.

    But again, the conference was a fantastic conference, lots of good people, lots of new people always love talking to new people and seeing what people’s business challenges are with social media data.

    And stay tuned to the Trust Insights podcast and I couldn’t be posting the audio from my off the books workshop on data science one on one.

    So if you’re not subscribed, go over to Trust insights.ai.

    And you can find the podcast moment you subscribe to the podcast or Apple podcasts or Google podcasts where it’s called in ear insights.

    And you’ll you’ll hear that talk from yesterday that will be posted on traditional channels.

    So go over there.

    Thanks, of course to Social Media Examiner, the team there Mike stelzner Philip marshawn whole crew for putting on yet another wonderful year.

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  • Social Media Marketing World 2020 #SMMW20 – Day 1 Recap

    Social Media Marketing World 2020 Day 1 Recap

    A look back at the first day of Social Media Marketing World and a key takeaway for how you think about social media. If you’re not using Metcalfe’s Law to decide what is and isn’t social media, consider adopting its usage today.

    Social media is anything that uses Metcalfe’s network effect. Every user provides additional value to existing user. An extra reader doesn’t change your value of a blog post you’re reading. An extra member on Twitter gives you additional utility. That then means that tons of other sites are social networks, social media. Github. YouTube. Twitch. Discord. Slack. Spiceworks. Pornhub. Stack Overflow. 500px. The list goes on. All those are social.

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    So let’s talk about day one of Social Media Marketing World.

    The event had your usual fun, engaging entertainment such and a few fun headline acts, Michael stelzner took a lot of time to walk through the social media landscape reiterating a point that markers been here for a couple years now, which is that organic reach for traditional social media is dead.

    Marketers should be focusing a lot, a lot more on video.

    Hey, Ann Handley went through a fantastic very entertaining keynote on slowing down in order to speed up making sure that you actually take time to craft your marketing As though it was actually communications to other people, and making sure that people understood what you’re trying to give them spending time on the value of your marketing.

    There were a lot of other sessions that hasn’t had some fun stuff in them.

    But I think the thing that I want the takeaway to be from this year’s show, and certainly the takeaway I tried to bring in the talk that I gave is that social media is more than just big tech companies, right? It is more than just Twitter and Facebook and Instagram at Tiktok and LinkedIn.

    Those are important.

    Those are social networks, but they are not social media by themselves.

    They are not the end all the social media social media is any form of media where the network effect Metcalf’s network effect is in place.

    So what does that mean? Metcalfe’s law says that the value of a network grows in proportion to the number of members squared of that network.

    If you have a phone, right, and you’re the only person in the world with a phone, it’s not super helpful, right? It’s, it’s actually kind of useless.

    If two people have a phone, how you’re starting to get somewhere that you can call somebody.

    And every new person who gets a phone adds value to everybody else who already has a phone because their phone gets more valuable because there’s yet another person to call.

    So when we talk about network effects that really the defining characteristic of social media, if somebody reads your blog post, great.

    If two people read your blog posts, the first reader doesn’t get any more value out of it, right? So a blog is not social.

    On Twitter, if you only have one friend, hey, it’s not great.

    But as you add More people to your network, you get benefit, everybody else gets benefit too and the value increases.

    So with that in perspective, think about all the places that are out there on the internet that are functionally social networks, forums, discussion forums, forums, threads in in all kinds of apps, the comments section in places like YouTube.

    We are we have gotten so ingrained in our thinking that if it’s not an app on our phone, and it’s not got 500 million users, that is not social media, it’s not true.

    GitHub, for example, is a social network for developers.

    You can post code there, you can commit code to other people’s projects.

    You can participate in a variety of discussions and such.

    It’s a fantastic social network for coders.

    Stack Overflow for it in code folks.

    Asking questions.

    Solving other people’s problems giving advice, Cora social network where you can do Qa 500 pixels, social network for photographers even Pornhub social network for adult entertainment, right? There’s all these different websites and services out there.

    They may not have the fanciest flashiest apps, they may just be a discussion forum.

    But their social networks, their social media, which means that if you have to narrow a view of what social media is, you’re missing opportunities.

    You’re missing opportunities to find new audiences to find less expensive audiences to be able to if you want to run ads run more targeted ads where you know the intent of the people who are there.

    If you are in say, a community on Twitch, or in discord, you know exactly what the intent of that community is about Because it’s, you know, it’s fans of this thing.

    If you’re in a slack community like analytics for markers, which is is the Trust Insights, slack.

    You know why you’re there.

    You know why everyone else is there.

    It’s not to discuss politics or the weather or sports, it’s to talk about analytics for markers.

    By the way, you should sign up.

    It’s free Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers.

    When we think about social media as being all these potential places where users people us are interacting with each other, providing value to each other.

    We can be much more aware of smaller networks, niche networks, industry specific networks, topics, specific networks, and get more value.

    And in our analytics, you’re going to start having to read code or reclassify a lot of your referral traffic is social in those cases, because when somebody visits you from A Reddit post or if somebody visits you from a SoundCloud track.

    That’s social media.

    That’s not a referral.

    I mean, you can you can measure it either way.

    But if you’re trying to get the value of what are users doing, what are people doing to talk about us? Then I would classify those things as social instead of for traffic, even though they don’t have the cool app, even though they don’t have venture capital, you know, millions of dollars, something like that.

    We can broaden our minds, our definitions of what social media is, we will get better results and it will free us from being enslaved, just handing your wallet over to Mark Zuckerberg every month.

    Right.

    So in terms of a takeaway from day one, now sounds incredibly jerk like behavior.

    Egotistical.

    But I would like that to be your takeaway from day one of Social Media Marketing World.

    What’s your social network for your company, for your industry for your niche.

    And by the way, if there isn’t one, it’s a golden opportunity for you.

    It’s a golden opportunity for you to create one for your industry.

    There are tons of open source packages that are pieces of software that will let you run a discussion forum or what you can run a set up a slack group.

    I would not build on a mainstream social media network because you’re subject to the algorithm those places but build something for your industry.

    If there isn’t one, build it and then it’s yours.

    And then you become the authority in your industry.

    You become the place people go to have those conversations and you’ll have people literally knocking on the door to do business with you.

    It’s a really terrific thing.

    So day one in the bag day to ahead, see what what people have to But in a lot of my conversations yesterday was making sure that people understood there’s more to social media than just the 500 million user plus apps.

    So hopefully that is useful to you and setting your own strategy.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Unsubscribes?

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing Unsubscribes?

    Anthony asks, “Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe? Almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.”

    We want people to unsubscribe if they don’t want to be on our lists any more. Why? It comes down to deliverability – the algorithms which put our emails in the inbox or in the spam bucket – we want as few bad subscribers as possible. One of the key drivers of that algorithm? Whether someone marks us as spam or not. We need that to happen as little as possible – so make the unsubscribe obvious.

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    In today’s episode Anthony asks, Why do you make it so easy to unsubscribe to your email marketing newsletter almost blatantly daring the recipient to do so.

    So this is a good question.

    If you haven’t seen the unsubscribe button in my newsletter, it looks like this.

    It is a it is blatantly obvious.

    And the reason for it has to do with deliverability rates.

    So in email marketing, your list size is important.

    But so is the percentage of people who open click and do stuff with your newsletter, the more people who don’t do anything with the newsletter, don’t open it, move it straight to the trash.

    Worst case scenario, flick it and click mark as spam, the worse your deliverability gets.

    And like all algorithms, the deliverability rate changes based on people’s behavior.

    So if you think about the analogy of the Facebook newsfeed right if people don’t engage with your posts, you start showing up less and less and less.

    The same is true on a more primitive scale with email marketing, the less people do things like open your email, the more algorithms like you know, g males.

    Priority Inbox, for example, will prioritize your newsletter.

    So, it may go to a separate tab in Gmail, for example, it may go to not showing up all that often it may go straight to spam in the worst case scenario.

    And so, we want to encourage people to be engaged.

    well as with any rate, you have a numerator and denominator, right the number opens versus the number of sentence.

    If you encourage people to unsubscribe, you are effectively reducing the denominator, right your if the if 10 People if you have a list of 110 people, right? And you have 10 opens, that’s that’s one out of 11 people opening, get 10 of those people to unsubscribe.

    And now it’s one out of 10.

    Right? Your numbers have gone up from point nine, two, to 109 2.1.

    And so, if we get rid of Deadwood on our lists, people who don’t open people who don’t click people who don’t do anything, we improve our performance with those algorithms.

    So it’s, it’s in our interest as marketers to have as engaged a list as possible.

    So that means a couple things.

    One, having an obvious unsubscribe, right, the more obvious we can make it the more painful the better and to getting rid of Deadwood on lists.

    If someone has an open an email from you in six months, or a year ever, like over nothing.

    It’s probably time for them to go, it’s time for that list to get pruned back, because it’s just hurting your performance, it just hurting your ability to show up and in eligos.

    Certainly, a key thing, if you’re not already doing it is using verification services.

    I use one called million verifier that I dumped my entire list to, and it validates which email addresses are working in which ones are broken.

    That’s super important.

    Because, again, if you’re sending email to bad addresses, you’re going to get penalized pretty heavily in those algorithms.

    So make your unsubscribe really obvious to get rid of people who don’t want to be there to get rid of people who don’t want to be engaged with you.

    Having inactive subscribers on your email list is the equivalent of having bought followers a lot of ways from a from an algorithm perspective.

    So we don’t want to do that.

    We want to get rid of them and make it obvious.

    One of the worst things that can happen to your email list is somebody clicking that market spam button.

    You do not want that to happen.

    Because that is a major reputation thing with these algorithms.

    Why would somebody hit mark as spam was built right into the interface super easy and like a Gmail.

    And if your unsubscribe link is to pick this two point font buried at the bottom, light gray on a white background, which a lot of marketers do, then guess what they’re going to be a little are going to take the least amount of work that they need to do and click mark as spam instead.

    Right You do not want that.

    You want people to find the unsubscribe link easily and hit that because you would rather lose that subscriber than have that subscriber report us spam because it’s just it’s a terrible, terrible reputation being in those algorithms not use personally.

    Your email sending reputation the lower your reputation goes again.

    the less likely it is E shopping algorithms.

    And finally, in terms of the easily unsubscribe button.

    One of the other things has happened with things like GDPR and ccpa is that you have to prove a lot as the marketer that you’ve obtained consent and all this stuff.

    But having such an obvious unsubscribe button means that if you ever do have to go to court to defend your marketing practices, and it comes up, can you tell us how easy is it for somebody to unsubscribe from your services? It’s here’s a, a giant page wide unsubscribe button with animation and clear text alternatives for the for accessibility.

    No, court no judge, no lawyer is going to look at and go well, it’s not really obvious is it? Right, when it’s so obvious it’s it’s hilarious.

    It makes a claim against you seem pretty silly.

    I’ve had people email me and say, I can find me on subscribe button like I’m pretty sure this is just a template email because if you can’t find the unsubscribe button, you probably need to see a doctor, I see an eye doctor or see some kind of doctor because it’s it’s really, really obvious.

    So those would be the reasons why it’s at least in my newsletters, the blatant the unsubscribe ones are so blatant because I want people to know what they’re getting into and how easy it is to get out so that I can improve my reputation in all these algorithms, and provide additional liability protection, good question.

    Really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “What data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing? In a dashboard published to senior management the last pages of the pdf were dedicated to marketing data. It was visitors to the website, impressions from paid media, Facebook Likes, Twitter Followers, and another data point or two that to me put an undue burden on the reader. Any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness (or at least influence) of marketing?”

    Fundamentally, it depends on marketing’s goal. Is it sales? Is it new customers? Is it revenue? This is why KPI mapping is so essential as an exercise. What’s the core outcome? Then run a multiple regression analysis to determine what other metrics correlate to that goal, then set up tests to prove causality.

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    In today’s episode Steven asks what data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing and a dashboard published a senior management here, the last pages of the PDF we’re dedicated to marketing data was visitors to the website impressions from paid media, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, etc.

    and it put an undue burden on the reader who had no clue how to do that translation any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness or influence of marketing? So really good question because we see a lot of this in marketing reporting and analytics where people to sort of back the truck up, pour the data on the desk, and and make a huge mess of things.

    Avinash Kaushik calls it data puking, who got whatever you want.

    It’s not a good.

    Fundamentally, telling the story of marketing means telling the story of business impact and business impact for the most part for most organizations, most of the time.

    It’s going to be about revenue.

    It’s going to be about can we add dollars to the bottom line in some fashion either directly or as part of process marketing in many b2b organizations is all about feeding sales, feeding the sales team giving them leads.

    Glenn Glengarry Glen Ross, you know we need more leads, stuff, the leads are weak.

    And in a b2c company, it can be actually just getting customers in the door, right? It can be actual purchases, it can be people signing up for a tour, it can be people requesting a brochure, but whatever it is, there’s got to be a core business level goal that marketing is helping to serve.

    Again, most of the time customers revenue, sales, all that stuff.

    So this is why one of the first things that every marketer needs to do is to Part of the strategic planning is what’s called KPI mapping, key performance indicator mapping, that it reminded the definition of key performance indicators that if it doesn’t get you, it gets you fired or a bonus.

    It’s a KPI.

    And that’s the starting point to figure out what is the impact of marketing.

    So take the overall organization goal, the overall goal, probably revenue in some fashion.

    From there, what number or numbers directly feed revenue? Maybe it’s open deals.

    For example, in a b2b company, it might be shopping carts in an e commerce company, it might be admission requests or admission applications at a college right but there’s got to be something that leads to that, that revenue in a number and then from there, what number leads to that? And from there, what memories that new actually starting to build that story of that chain of evidence that leads to the business outcome you can About once you’ve done the basic exercise and you’ve gotten to a KPI that marketing is directly responsible for so let’s say in a higher education institution, for example, if applications are to applying to that college or university are the major goal, then what can marketing see of that? Does marketing actually see those applications? Does marketing have access to the data on the website for people downloading the applications? Maybe we’re filling them out online.

    If so, there’s your KPI.

    The next step is take all that other marketing data that you mentioned, paid media impressions, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, visitors to the website, email sent and all this stuff, and run what’s called a regression analysis to determine what is the mathematical relationship of all these metrics.

    To the KPI, right.

    So if we’re saying, I’m going to keep going with the higher education analogy, if we’re saying that applications, which really is like, sales, right? It’s a contract essentially, applications is your KPI.

    Then what of all those numbers has a mathematical relationship to applications? And if it turns out none of them, then guess what? We don’t need any of them.

    In our reporting, we just focus on the KPI.

    If, on the other hand, it turns out there is a mathematical relationship between say, Facebook engagements and likes, tweets and views on YouTube.

    And that relationship is statistically relevant.

    You now have a testing plan, right? Let’s go with YouTube views.

    If it’s a higher education institution, and there’s a views of the of the campus tour videos online, great Now what happens if you increase views? Do you see a corresponding increase in applications if you’ve, if you’ve established this correlation, you now have to prove the causation through testing.

    And then once you’ve done that, and you’ve proven that there is a relationship and the relationship is causal in nature, then fundamentally what you end up with is a KPI.

    And one, two, maybe three metrics that have the strongest relationship that you’ve proven to that and that’s the number that you tell in the story.

    That’s the number those are the numbers that go in your dashboard.

    Because you know that they they translate to your KPI and your KPI translates to business impact.

    Maybe as email subscribers, maybe it’s email, open rate.

    You’ve got all this data.

    But which of it matters.

    That’s how you build a story.

    Because a story is fundamentally nothing more than in many cases, sort of a beginning, middle and end recounting of what happened in a way that has a logical coherence to it.

    And it’s it was a very exciting story.

    But that’s a story.

    And so if you can sequence out those numbers and discard all the ones that don’t contribute to that story that are not relevant to that story, you will be able to have a, if not compelling, at least a a meaningful and useful story about the effectiveness of marketing, but requires you to gather all that data and do that analysis.

    That’s the way that I would approach any situation where you’ve got somebody who’s putting data on your desk, and you want to make sense of it.

    Do the KPI mapping, do the regression analysis, do this testing to prove it and then remove and went out everything that doesn’t belong.

    There is You don’t have the data, then you have to do your your, your best with what you’ve got, right? So if you only have certain data points, you can repeat the exercises as much as you can.

    If you don’t have control over the data itself, like if you don’t work in marketing, and you’re just curious, then you got to collaborate, got to work with a team that is responsible for the data and responsible for making the data happen in order to be able to, to really create a good story.

    So it’s a good question.

    It sounds easy.

    It’s It’s simple.

    It’s not easy.

    I think that’s an important point.

    It’s, it’s very simple to do.

    It’s not easy to do.

    It will take a lot of time, it will take a lot of effort.

    But once you do it, and you get good at it, you get really good at boiling down all the data.

    That’s only the stuff that matters, then focusing your efforts on that.

    And that’s the point of something like an exercise like this not only to be able to tell the story better, but then to focus your efforts in such a way You’re expanding your resources on things that really matter.

    So really good question, important question.

    I hope that this was helpful.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: A/B Tests for Non-Random Situations?

    You Ask, I Answer: A/B Tests for Non-Random Situations?

    Kanako asks, “What are best practices for conducting A/B tests on non-random situations?”

    The short answer is for randomized controlled trials, there isn’t a best practice for doing things non-randomly. You need randomization to reduce the impact of confounding variables, and this is something marketers do wrong many, many times.

    Ways A/B tests go wrong:
    – Extrapolating a selected population to the whole population
    – Allowing self selection
    – Group randomization of individuals
    – Insufficient sample size

    Be clear about what the population is, then randomize from it using true random selection. That’s the only way to avoid things like selection bias.

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    In today’s episode Conoco asks what are the best practices for conducting a B tests on non random situations? All I mean, the short answer is don’t.

    An A B test is a more properly named randomized controlled trial.

    You have a hypothesis you have a control group of people who don’t receive the test.

    You have a group of people who do receive the test, and then you have the measurement to see if there is a statistically significant difference between the control group and the test group.

    If you do things non randomly when it comes to the selection of who is in each group, you are going to potentially blow up the test.

    Create a an outcome That is statistically not meaningful, or hat worse off has some kind of bias.

    And so in order to test properly, you need to have that randomization to reduce the impact of those biases.

    So real simple example, let’s say, let’s say you’re running a test on your website.

    And you want people to try out the new interface, right? So you say, hey, try out our new interface.

    At this point, now you’re doing what’s called self selection where people can opt to be in either the group that stays the same, or the group that is different.

    Why would this be bad? Well, think about this, what is the behavioral change that makes somebody choose to be in a different group? Right, they may have a different personality type.

    They may have a potentially a different skew towards it.

    Gender a skewed towards and ethnicity is skewed towards behavior.

    Maybe most smokers might choose that out whether smoking is being a smoker or a nonsmoker is is relevant to your population may or may not be something you want to investigate, but just the fact that someone can opt into a test group automatically sorts those people by something other than randomization.

    And that group may behave differently than the group that’s left behind as opposed to a randomized group where everybody has the same chance of behaving in a similar situation where the control group of the test group, so I can’t really think of situations where you would want to have a non random controlled trial.

    You can certainly do things like focus groups, maybe To get qualitative information do you want to try and, and get a well mixed sample of your target population rather than the eight people that you know that to come talk about something because again, they may not be representative of the population as a whole.

    There are four ways that we see a B Tests, Surveys, all sorts of things go kind of really off the rails.

    That self selection is sure one of them the randomizing of individuals in groups, as if as long as it’s not done randomly, like say, you’re going to take everybody with a gmail address.

    Well, that’s not really a great way to, to, to assign people to a controlled trial, particularly doing anything regarding email marketing, for example, because Gmail addresses may behave differently than hotmail addresses or AOL addresses for those people who still have them.

    So you want to have avoid doing group randomization of individuals.

    If you’re testing the individual randomized at the individual.

    If you’re testing our group grand, you can randomize at the group level, but then you should not be using individual level data.

    Third would be extracting, oh yeah, extracting a extrapolating a population, to the whole population that’s been selected.

    So this is one that we see a lot with email marketing, and testing.

    People will send out email to a specific email list and get it behavior, whether it’s an A B test running on site or whatever.

    And then extrapolate that behavior to the whole.

    You see this go wrong a lot with testing a lot with surveys.

    You will send out a survey to your email list.

    And then you would say well marketers believe that AB testing is overpriced.

    Well, no, only the people that you email believe that.

    And if your sample is not representative of all marketers, then it’s your conclusion is invalid.

    There are a number of companies that have been doing this with surveys over the years.

    They email their their database about their product or service or niche.

    And then say, marketers believe this will know only the people who are on your email list who have a self selection bias, right? your email list has a self selection bias people do not opt into emails that have companies that they don’t care about.

    So only the people who are on your list care enough about you to have given your your them you their email, and they have a bias.

    Right.

    People who are in for example, my analytics for markers slack group, which if you’re interested in joining, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers.

    People who joined that slack group, by default have a bias towards being interested in analytics.

    If they did not care about analytics, they wouldn’t join.

    So if I were to run a survey about analytics to an analytics group, I’m going to get very different results than if I ran the same survey to a random group of markers.

    So the extrapolation is, is important.

    And the fourth one is insufficient sample sizes.

    Again, when it comes to to a b tests, if you run a test and you test, you know, 10 people, and your website gets a million visitors a day.

    You’ve got a statistically invalid test that’s that.

    So small a sample cannot be used to extrapolate to the behaviors whole boxes is too much too large of a chance that you’ve got people in there who don’t behave like the rest of the population.

    So when you’re running, testing For a B tests, you have to make sure that you have a large enough sample.

    Now the good news is, for a lot of a b testing software like Google Optimize, it decides when the sample is statistically significant.

    So you may want to run a test in a certain timeframe, it won’t let you it will run the test until it has an answer of some kind or can’t come to a valid conclusion.

    That one’s not as much of a problem but generally speaking, there are no best practices for non random controlled trials, because they should not exist.

    So be clear about your population is randomized at using true random selection, we have a computer Assigned Numbers randomly assigned groups randomly.

    That’s how you avoid things like selection bias or confounding variables and stuff without that randomization.

    Things just get messy and you’ll end up with bad data from which you will make bad decisions.

    So do it well do it with randomization and and you struggle with that.

    There’s plenty of software and tutorials on how to do the randomization.

    But make sure that you’re doing it.

    You’re not doing non random controlled trials.

    Good question.

    Technically complicated question.

    So if Yeah, if the last few minutes were a lot of math words, it’s okay.

    But just be aware that of the idea that you always want to have a random sample.

    You don’t want to have non random samples.

    I can’t really think in the Navy test of a situation where you’d want something like that.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science for Traditional Sales?

    Jackie asks, “How does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us, we’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls?”

    Data science is a methodology that can be applied to any data you happen to have. In the case of cold calling, as long as you have data about past successful and unsuccessful calls, you can start to build a hypothesis and test it. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Jackie asks, how does all this fancy data science kung fu hubbub help us? We’re a traditional sales company that only makes phone sales cold calls.

    Well, data science is a methodology.

    It is a methodology that can be applied to any data you have remember that data science is the extraction of meaningful insights from data using the scientific method.

    So, the question is, what is well, there’s a whole bunch of questions but first is what do you want to improve if you are selling via cold call? That is a very labor intensive practice.

    You have to spend time, even if you’ve got the dialing part automated, as a lot of time and effort picking up the phone or talking to people, right? People take time.

    And so you would like to be able to do more calls to be more productive, you would like to be able to have better outcomes right to be able to sell more stuff to get fewer people who say mean words to you and hang up hang really and more people who would be willing to give you you know, five or 10 or 30 minutes or however longer cold call process is to hear the pitch and possibly say yes.

    So you have questions you need answered, right you How do I make myself more efficient? How do I make myself more effective? data science is one of those tools you can use a methodology you can use to answer those questions.

    In the case of cold calling, I would hope that you have data from the past about what constitutes successful and unsuccessful cold calls.

    So you should Do you have a list of numbers you’ve called who those people were, if you’d be to see the characteristics of those people where they came from, we’ve got that number from typical demographic information, such as like a household income, gender, etc.

    for businesses, you’d be firma graphic information that you would have.

    And you would want to use data science techniques, particularly statistical techniques to understand what do the people who are successful cold calls in the past? What do they have in common? Right? Remember that you’re going to have a lot of engineer data as well.

    So you should have the date and the time that you made a call.

    And so from that you would extract the year the month the day of the week, the day of the month, the day of the quarter, the hour of the day, the minute of the day.

    How long each call was, how long did it take for someone to pick up? How many rings did it take? As you can see, just from a simple action, like picking up the phone and calling someone, there’s a lot of extra data you can engineer out of it.

    And all of those statistics are things that you would then feed to data science software to figure out what features or, you know, data points, either alone or in combination with each other, lead to a successful outcome.

    This is a technique, formal technique name with a specific technique name is called binary classification.

    You have an outcome, successful call on successful call.

    And then you have all the information that went into it.

    And you would run a binary classification algorithm on the data and figure out are there things that indicate The likelihood of a successful call and maybe it is hour of the day maybe it is household income, or a number of family members.

    on the business side, it might be annual revenue, yeah, could be domain name.

    Whatever the thing is, you then find your classifiers.

    Your have been called feature importance or how how important a particular data point is.

    And then you begin testing.

    You begin the scientific method if calling at lunchtime on Tuesdays is the thing that is most most likely recorded the album related to a successful outcome.

    Then eat lunch early on Tuesdays doubled the number of calls that you do during Tuesday at lunchtime.

    And you test you see how many successful calls or ideally you do it like a control tower.

    where maybe you and a co worker, do calling on Tuesdays or around lunchtime.

    And you make double the number of calls, your coworker makes the same number of calls.

    And if that they normally do and an ideal you’re doing double the number of calls they are during that Tuesday lunch, and maybe they take half an hour off for lunch.

    And then you compare your results after a few Tuesdays and say, Okay, now here’s our hypothesis, correct? Does calling on Tuesdays at lunchtime yield more successful results than not? And by having that control of doing things normally on a Tuesday, versus doing doubling the volume on a Tuesday at lunchtime? Do you see greater success rates? Do you see a statistically significant difference in success rate? That’s how you approach all these problems.

    Just because you’re doing what we’ve considered traditional or old school sales doesn’t mean that you don’t have data, or that you can’t use data science techniques to improve those process.

    is the same for, you know, postal direct mail postal direct mail can be very, very effective in specific certain circumstances in specific situations.

    If you know what data you have, you can be very efficient in your mail, instead of spending a million bucks to drop, you know, postcards to every single person on the planet, you have maybe 500 households that you know, or that you’re going to test for likelihood, a much greater improved responses.

    That’s how you use the stuff.

    That’s how you apply the scientific method to your data, develop testing criteria, and then see if you get causation.

    See if you get better results.

    That’s data science.

    That’s how you apply it to any of these situations.

    So, step out on the mindset, you’re, you’re doing something traditional, and that was all this fancy new technology and step into the mindset of the scientific method.

    What can can we prove or disprove about an important question to our business using our data? That’s where the change for you will come and make your make your business work no matter what it is make it better.

    Thanks for the question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Importance of Domain Authority in SEO?

    Shane asks, “What’s the validity of domain authority in the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EAT? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions?”

    The answer to this question requires some statistical knowledge. Fundamentally, the outcome we care about is traffic from organic search, so the question is, does domain authority have any relationship to organic search traffic? Let’s see what we find from the SEO tool AHREFS and the R programming language; bear in mind every SEO tool has its own version of domain rating, so you’ll want to perform this test using the data from the tool you use, with your industry-specific data.

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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, What’s the validity of Domain Authority and the current SEO landscape where Google is telling us to focus on EA t expertise, authority and trust? Should I be concerned about measuring domain authority? Or is it more of a metric that does more to stroke ego like media impressions? So this is a really good question because it requires a little bit of data homework, domain authority or domain rating or domain strength are arbitrary metrics put together by various SEO tool vendors, mas, RF, SpyFu, sem, rush, etc.

    To give you some shorthand about how important that domain overall is.

    So how do we do this? How do we go about turning an arbitrary metric into something that we can potentially get us out of? Let’s go ahead and flip this around here.

    To do this We’re going to need a whole bunch of data.

    And we’re going to need to understand at a very basic level, is there any mathematical relationship between whatever your tools domain authority measures called, and an outcome we actually care about.

    Now, for the most part, we’re going to care about organic search traffic, right? That’s the metric that is probably most meaningful to marketers because it means we actually got people to the front door, right? So let’s, we’re going to use the our programming language for this.

    You can use this as a statistical tool of your choice, IBM Watson Studio, SPSS, our Python doesn’t matter.

    I’m going to go ahead and I’m going to, let’s run all the prerequisites here so we can get all of our libraries loaded.

    And then we’re going to load in a whole bunch of exports from the RF tool and the exports.

    I’m using our Essentially articles with the most common would have called stop words in the English language, the or, and a in as you etc.

    These are going to give us a wide wide selection of content not just any one particular industry.

    I’m looking also at articles this year published within calendar year 2020 at with working links.

    Now what I’ve done is I’ve taken every metric they have and exported about 10,000 links per different metric because we want to see are there is there more than just domain rating or domain authority we want to look at.

    Let’s get rid of some row numbers here.

    And then let’s add in a days old just for fun to see if the age of the article matters.

    Going to load our correlation plot library.

    Remove numbers that are not remove variables that are not numbers you’ll see in the original data set here.

    There are things like the article title, the URL is Author of those are not necessarily things that, at least for this experiment we particularly care about.

    So let’s go ahead and then set any na which means not available to zero and run a correlation.

    We’re going to run a Spearman correlation tests.

    There’s Pearson spearmen.

    And the other one, I can’t remember the name it Pearson correlations are good for for normal distributions where there’s a bell curve of results from marketing data most of the time, most marketing data looks like a power locker where you know, though the Pareto rule 8020 rule, and so you want to use a Spearman correlation most of the time, and let’s remove the results of variables correlating themselves to that doesn’t help anybody and will draw plot.

    Okay, let’s zoom in here.

    Now what we’re looking for is there’s our domain rainville rating variable.

    And we’re looking for numbers in this section.

    Really a point two, five or better that Kate’s eight a week moderate correlation or, you know, minus point two, five week negative correlation basically looking for any correlation to major numbers that we care about.

    And the one that we really care about, is this one, the traffic number, right? What is their relationship between domain rating? And that organic traffic? And the answer is no.

    The other absolutely the point 008 Spearman correlation.

    That pretty much says there’s no relationship between domain rating in this tool and the outcome we care about.

    Now.

    question is What relationship is there between traffic that would be important? Number one here is referring domains, right referring domains.

    point five nine is a very strong correlation between traffic which is the outcome we care about.

    And referring domains.

    What else we got here we’ve got point four, two, median number of social shares.

    That’s interesting most of the time, there isn’t a strong correlation between social shares and SEO but in this particular set of 72,000 URLs, there is that I think bear some more investigation.

    And then next on the list here is number of words.

    That’s another interesting word point three eight, Spearman correlation.

    Again, we know that there is a bias in some types of algorithms in search towards longer form content.

    And this for this data set seems to bear that out.

    Now, bear in mind, let’s go ahead and flip out of here.

    Very mind a couple things with what it is we’ve just analyzed.

    We took a very generic data set from a single SEO tool, the RF tool in this case, and we did a Spearman correlation to see with the outcome we care about, does domain reading matter for this example? The answer is no.

    But There are some caveats on this.

    Number one, this is not niche specific, right? This is not industry specific.

    Instead of using the as the keyword term, you might want to use a piece of industry jargon from your industry and run this exact same analysis for your industry to see if there’s something specific in your world that matters much more than the generic English language words.

    Number two, caveat is that each SEO tool out there does its domain authority equivalent rating differently.

    They have different behind the scenes algorithms, Maz has domain authority.

    I think sem rush has doing strength RF says domain rating.

    So you’ll need to rerun these results with exactly the same technique, but export it from the tool that you use, because it may turn out that another vendor has a reasonably good domain authority.

    This particular vendors domain rating doesn’t really mean anything compared to the organic traffic outcome, and sidebar on that if your vendor doesn’t provide you an organic traffic number, then you can’t really do this analysis because you don’t know what outcome it is you’re going after.

    So make sure whatever venue you use, there’s a traffic outcome as well.

    That way you’re benchmarking against something meaningful.

    Now, as we all know, correlation is not causation, right? Just because an article is longer does not mean that it will likely get you more organic traffic, it means there’s a relationship between the two.

    So as with all good data science, once you have some kind of answer here, in this case, we did that we found median shares was interesting.

    We found a number of words was interesting.

    Your next step is not to immediately change your strategy.

    Your next step is to set up an experiment.

    start testing it We produce no longer blog posts.

    Let’s say you do a blog twice a week on every other blog is a longer post by, say, by meaningful amount likes, if you normally blog 300 words or every other post this month should be 600 words.

    And then at the end of the month, you check and see, did you see a relationship between longer posts and more organic search traffic? You may you may not, we don’t know you won’t know until you do the test.

    So that’s your next step is to test out and make sure that a correlation has a corresponding causation through your testing.

    So keep that in mind as well.

    In this case, my conclusion is for this data set, domain rating or domain authority isn’t a meaningful metric here.

    You have to test on your own.

    Don’t rely on just a generic test like we just did, to draw the conclusion for yourself, test for yourself, find out for yourself and then you can Go ahead and publish for your industry or your clients what it is that works best for your niche.

    So really good question.

    I wanted to show this as an example of the kind of work that you need to do to make that analysis so that you can get an answer that’s customized for you rather than a generic because the generic answer may not be applicable to your industry.

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