Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

  • You Ask, I Answer: What’s The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    You Ask, I Answer: What's The Difference Between Marketing and Sales?

    Mallory asks, “In your honest opinion, what is the difference in marketing and sales?”

    The short answer: creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand. We see this most in examples where demand exists – sales are effectively order-takers and marketing is minimal. On the other hand, if demand doesn’t exist (but the product is ultimately solid), marketing has to be robust in order for sales to do its job. Even if sales is cold-calling, if there’s no demand, cold-calling is ultimately fruitless. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Mallory asks, in your honest opinion, what is the differentiation in marketing and sales? What’s the difference between marketing and sales? Well, the short answer is creation of demand versus fulfillment of demand.

    marketing’s primary goal is to create demand.

    And by that we mean people who want to do business with the company in some form or fashion, they are aware of it.

    They are considering it.

    They’re considering the company and they may even want to talk to somebody to buy something.

    Now, there are different types of companies and companies will differentially invest in marketing or sales.

    A company that is very sales heavy, will invest heavily in sales staff they may or may not invest heavily in marketing.

    And sales is going to be doing a lot of cold calling.

    You know if you want a really good example does any any real real estate company is super heavy on the sales side.

    And the realtors if they don’t already have their existing book of business are cold calling, you know knocking on doors, things like that.

    On the flip side companies there are companies that are essentially giant marketing organizations and they may they may or may not even do a whole lot of sales they may function as a marketing organization.

    Many affiliate marketing companies are like that I worked at a financial services company that was a marketing organization on behalf of another company.

    There wasn’t a sales process other than one person going around brokering deals for this type of affiliate marketing and so as a pure marketing organization if you think about the creation of demand, and the fulfillment of demand as like a two by two matrix, then in the lower left hand corner where a company doesn’t create demand doesn’t fulfill demand they’re going out of business, right? Sears is a really good example.

    This Sears has used to be very good until the current CEO who has essentially driven the company face first into the ground.

    No investment sales, no investment in marketing, and the company is just in terrible condition.

    It’s been bankrupt many, many times, and eventually it will just go away because the fundamental underpinnings of the company are so badly broken, that it will take if a company could recover, it would take decades.

    A company where there is creation of demand but no fulfillment.

    There’s not a robust sales organization.

    That’s actually a place where many startups run into trouble where they’re, they’re good at marketing, but they’re not good at sales.

    And when they hit success, they struggled again.

    up with a struggle to meet the demand that they’re creating, or that already exists and that they’re amplifying, traveling.

    But a good example of that in the early days that was Amazon, being able to, to keep up with the logistics of just how successful the online model was a company where there’s no creation of DRAM, but there’s fulfillment.

    That’s many cold calling businesses.

    Again, real estate agencies are good example.

    In some cases.

    Think back if you don’t have as much gray hair as I do have made maybe impossible to think back this far.

    But in the 1970s this was Xerox Xerox before its patents expired on this photocopiers were was essentially an order taking organization the phone would ring and say I want five of these things and the salesperson really Yep, got it.

    And and that was that would be that they had so much demand.

    And that they didn’t really need the market all that heavily.

    And their organization was purely about fulfilling the demand that existed.

    They had a rude awakening when their patents expired, and other competitors came into the space.

    And suddenly the phone stopped ringing Canon and all these other emerging companies jumped into the fray.

    And at that point, they struggled pretty heavily to try and figure out how to deal with an environment where there was still demand.

    But they were no longer the sole brand.

    And debatable about how will they fulfill that certainly other emerging companies have done very, very well, like cannon over the years.

    And finally, a company that creates and fulfills demand.

    Well, that’s any successful business, right? That’s everything from Amazon, to Walmart to Apple to Google.

    that’s fundamentally a successful business.

    So that’s the difference between marketing and sales.

    In terms of how you understand this difference, that’s a lot more squishy because the customer journey inside for company will not necessarily map to its marketing operations or its revenue operations.

    At a small company, they may be one person whose job is marketing and sales.

    And one of the most difficult things to figure out is as a company grows and scales, how do you break up that role? What does that person who’s doing that role better at so that you can hire for the thing or less better at and ultimately level up your talent pool? from a job assignment? perspective? marketing and sales are separate skill sets.

    And one of the things that companies do really wrong is they confuse the two and they assume that somebody who is a good marketer would make a good salesperson and vice versa.

    It’s not true creation versus fulfillment.

    Demand are very, very different capabilities particularly in the digital age.

    So an important consideration for a lot of companies is what? What do you have for talent? And then where are you weakest and the higher up, you create or build new town rather than trying to move existing talent around I, I totally get it.

    There’s a lot of incentive to do more with what you already have people wise, but if you want to grow a lot of the time, it requires you getting better skills than you possibly have, rather than training somebody up, train somebody up as a good long term investment.

    But if you need to grow quickly, you need to hire it.

    And finally, the the understanding of the difference between marketing and sales is most critical when you are dealing with the customer journey and understanding where the customer journey where the customer is in their journey.

    If you think they’re still in the demand creation space, but they’re Really the demand fulfillment phase? You’re going to leave them frustrated, right? Like No, I just leave it something.

    The opposite is worse, which is someone is still in the demand creation phase like still exploring, still learning still talking to friends and reading reviews, and you got a salesperson pestering them, Hey, if you’re in b2b, this is virtually every b2b company that is saying, okay, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something, hey, you want to buy something? And we know as people as consumers, that’s a turn off.

    So it’s really important to know where the customer is in their in their demand fulfillment.

    Where where they are in their demand cycle, if you will, so important to know the difference so that you can treat the customer better you can hire effectively and you know how to structure your operations.

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  • Build Your Own Marketing Conference

    Build Your Own Conference

    The value of conferences are that you obtain content, have conversations, create community, and change context – all so you could put yourself in a different space, a different place, and reap some changes from it. That said, I’m wholly aware of the giant imposition that conferences and events make on our lives. I see just how much they really cost; speakers are often asked to promote conferences and offered things like discount codes for our audiences, and some of those discounts seem like they should be the price of the event itself. Make no mistake, conferences are expensive – the tickets, the travel, the time out of the office – it all adds up.

    So that raises the challenging question: what if you can’t, for time or money reasons, attend conferences, but you still need the benefits? The answer is: build your own marketing conference. Here’s how. First and foremost, obtain commitment from yourself, your coworkers, and whoever you answer to that for one day, you’re going to be out of the office attending an event. You can promise that except for your time, there will be minimal impact on the bottom line and no travel or expense reports to deal with.

    That said, you must make the absolute, iron-clad commitment that you will be out of the office. That means turning your phone off. That means setting your out of office message on your email. That means putting up DND everywhere you can, in your company Slack, in your IMs, everything. Heck, if you have access to a private conference room or an office with a door that locks, use it. Make yourself as unavailable as if you’d flown thousands of miles away. Work from home that day if you can.

    Next, find at least two other people either at your company or at like-minded companies in similar roles to you to attend the “event” and make the same commitments as you to a DND experience. This part is important. Part of a conference is the conversation in the halls, the community. You’ll want to add as much of that as possible. Ideally, get up to 10 people to participate with you, but at least have two other people along for the ride. If you’re working from home, schedule breaks – just like a real conference – in which you can catch up after sessions.

    Let’s talk about the content of the conference. Pick a theme. Maybe it’s lead generation. Maybe it’s better customer service. Whatever’s on your mind and the minds of your colleagues, whatever the hot topic is, start with that theme. You’ll use the conferencing/web calling software of your choice and invite your colleagues to each submit for everyone’s enjoyment two conference sessions appropriate to the theme that are posted on YouTube. This is the secret: virtually every major speaker at every past event has at least one video on YouTube for others to watch. Professional speakers in particular will have lots of videos, because it’s how booking agents get to see a speaker perform before booking them.

    Take a look at the past agenda of a marketing conference you would have liked to attend, find some speakers at it, and then search YouTube for those speakers’ videos.

    When conference day rolls around, have everyone do introductions, post the schedule, have everyone present the challenging business problem they are facing in their business in a minute or two, and then hit the playlist. Treat it like an actual conference – schedule short, frequent breaks for people to attend to personal needs, take a lunch break in which you stay connected via video conferencing to have conversations and informal discussions, comment and discuss in the chatroom as you watch videos together – everything you expect of a regular conference.

    At the end of the event, at the last “session” of the day, consider a roundtable where you each discuss the problems that everyone shared at the beginning of the day and see if there are additional ideas or solutions that came up during the sessions that provide the answers people are seeking.

    This sort of homebrew conference isn’t for everyone. Some people will have a hard time enforcing the DND commitment. Others may not be able to get buy-in from superiors or co-workers. That’s okay – but then when you don’t get the buy-in, you can push for attendance at real-world events instead. For those who have the discipline and focus to pull off a homebrew virtual conference, you may find that you get more out of it than a major event because of the close, intimate nature of the event and the discussions in it. Give it a try and see how it works for you if you’re up to the challenge. At the very least, you’ll get more professional development in than simply lamenting you couldn’t make it to an event.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?

    Shane asks, “With the changes that Google has made to its algorithm, is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keywords still have a place in the SEO process?”

    When we decompose a topic, we end up with words and phrases. It’s literally impossible to write about a topic without using words and phrases; writing about coffee inevitably requires discussion about beans, brewing times, roasts, grinds, etc. Where the challenge is for marketers is in the topical adjacency of keywords – focusing on too narrow a list reduces your opportunities. The research part of SEO has drastically changed, but the publishing great, relevant content has not.

    You Ask, I Answer: Do Keywords Still Matter in an AI SEO World?
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    In today’s episode, Shane asks, with the changes that Google is made to its algorithm.

    Is there still any validity to having a list of keywords and tracking how they are ranking? Do keyword still have a place in the SEO process? This is good question because a lot of what’s been written, including some pieces I’ve written myself, I’ve talked about the important topics, document level topic, sentence paragraphs, and larger chunks of text that Google now uses thanks to deep learning capabilities to measure the importance the relevance of a piece of content.

    Now, here’s the thing about that.

    When you decompose a topic, when you decompose a document, you end up with words and phrases, right? It’s literally impossible to write about the importance of coffee shops, without coffee, I guess, without talking about things like you know, beans brewing times, blends grinds, particular types of brews, coffee dishes like espressos and cappuccinos and lattes, and mocha chinos and all that stuff, right? All those words, words and phrases.

    And so there is still some value in seeing how relevant a pages based on a series of words.

    Now, where things are different is that you’re not going to try and get a page to rank for one word or phrase, right, you may have a focus keyword, but there’s got to be a bunch of keywords around that that should also be on that page that are relevant to that page.

    This is a concept in natural language processing called adjacency.

    What words and phrases are adjacent to the primary focus keyword.

    So again, with the discussion about espresso for example, espresso has a particular type of being a particular type of grind, method, machinery.

    And so a page that is about espresso should also have those terms featured on it in some degree, right? Because that’s what the topic is about.

    And so that page may and probably should have multiple keywords that’s being tracked for but they’re all related around that central concept.

    But idea.

    The best SEO tools allow you to see how a page rank for multiple keywords right, and you can set it up to design design, your monitoring for multiple keywords, words and phrases have obviously you can’t make content without them.

    Now, what’s changed in the SEO process is not the words in the phrases per se, but the research right the research part of SEO is what has drastically changed in this artificial intelligence world and AI driven SEO What’s changed about that is that you need much more sophisticated tools that do natural language, proper language processing, to get those adjacencies.

    And you need subject matter experts to talk to in order to discover those hidden terms that may not be frequent on a page, but indicate your expertise they indicate your authority, your relevance, the fact that you know the topic deeply.

    So keyword frequency tools could be one way of doing that just determining how many times does a word or phrase up here, our friends over at Talkwalker have a basic frequency counter in a lot of their software.

    Some of the SEO tools are starting to get there.

    But your best results are always going to be from more advanced natural language processing software.

    So you can use some of the cloud services like Amazon and Google and IBM all have a natural language processing capabilities, digest large quantities of text, I use an open source library that’s built into Watson.

    It’s an add on to the our language, the our programming language in order to do a lot of that, as well, because with Google and other cloud services, you do pay a nonzero amount of money, it’s small, it’s not a lot of money, but for the effort, if you’re gonna, because you’re gonna have to write code to connect to those API’s Anyway, you may as well just build it with something doesn’t cost you money every time you write.

    So, the research part is what has changed.

    How do you determine those keyword adjacencies.

    And there’s a bunch of different methods.

    There’s, as I mentioned, basic term frequency counts, which actually are not bad for determining just how often does a term or phrase show up within a large body of copy.

    There is a measure called inverse document frequency, which is part of term frequency that you can use to determine how many times does a term uniquely appear in the document that gets rid of things like the word law that offers no predictive power about expertise across a bunch of documents, but it shows up a whole bunch.

    And then there are more advanced methods like vectorization, which allow you to mathematically gives you GPS coordinates on page two terms, that CEO who lives near that term, if you will.

    And then there’s even more advanced models on that.

    But those are sort of the three major methods for measuring those keywords, and they’re pretty good.

    They will get you a good percentage of the way, especially if you don’t have domain knowledge.

    One of the things that’s can be tough for a lot of SEO and content practitioners is that you need to have at least some level domain expertise in order to be able to craft great copy That the days of googling for two minutes and copying and pasting a bunch of stuff off of other pages are long gone.

    It now because of natural language models being able to understand things like grammar and syntax to some degree.

    That technique, which used to work in the old days does not work anymore.

    So you do need that domain level expertise.

    If you’re wondering how to make use of this with any don’t have machine learning capabilities, you don’t have data scientists on staff, your best bet is to sit down with your subject matter experts.

    Get out a little portable audio recorder, turn it on, and have a conversation with them.

    Put together a list of questions about your keywords about your topic, right.

    And for 15 minutes, 20 minutes.

    Work with your subject matter expert, talk to them and just ask them questions about the topic as though you are googling it but you’re googling it from inside somebody’s head.

    So what is The best way to make espresso or what should I look for an espresso beans, and we’ll get to talk about the roast versus the grind and a lot of detail.

    And that those conversations are what you can then start mining for that true expertise.

    That’s the easiest way to get started in the new keyword landscape.

    The fact of the matter, though, is that at the end of the day, the core goal of Google’s algorithm changes has not changed, which is to help you find great relevant content.

    Right? So as long as you’re creating longer form, great relevant content with subject matter expertise, you will deliver on what is that Google is looking for, in its its search algorithms.

    Worried less about individual keywords worry much more about topical expertise.

    So use those use those subject matter experts.

    Really good question.

    Look into some of those natural language processing tools that I mentioned there.

    There are a lot of capabilities out there and most of them are relatively inexpensive.

    I would shy away from people offering like individual point solutions, because they will tend to be expensive and they will tend to be things that if you invested some time and money in yourself in developing the capabilities yourself, you would have them and could use them in an unlimited fashion, rather than paying you 599 a month for you know, a tool that does one thing, so be on the lookout for that.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    Will asks, “I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are one of my basic product landing pages. The problem I’m trying to solve: boss says, “I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on that other page onto this page.”

    There are three answers here. First, Behavior Flow will give you usable insights into what someone’s next steps are, with the caveat that there can only be one destination link on the source page. Second, Google Tag Manager special events will allow you to fire specific events on specific clicks or interface elements. Third, Google Optimize will answer your boss’ question of what’s working by setting up testing scenarios.

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    In today’s episode we’ll asks, I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are on one of my basic product landing page is the problem I’m trying to solve.

    boss says, I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on the other page on this page.

    And you want to find out for us what’s really working.

    So there’s a couple of different ways to do this.

    In Google Analytics, the easiest way would be to use behavior flow.

    In fact, let’s go ahead and switch this over.

    So in the behavior section of Google Analytics, there’s overview there’s behavior flow, behavior flow shows you the page they start on and then sort of the the pathing.

    They take map, there’s a specific page you want, click on that little gear icon here.

    And then add a match type item.

    So the match type contains For example, let’s do my speaking my public Speaking, eight people come in on that page.

    And then actually all eight leave this is for last seven days.

    So this tells me what people have gone to next.

    Now, this is contingent on a couple things.

    One, there’s only one link from your landing page to whatever the next pages are.

    So if there was page A, B, and C, you had them, you want to know what’s going to get the click, if there’s five links to page be on page eight, this is not going to tell you that.

    To fix that, you’d have to go into Google Tag Manager and specify other specific buttons that you can put a tracking tag on to fire an event.

    And that event would then show up in Google Analytics you could do and set that up under events to track what events those things are.

    They can track those as as flows pages, things like that.

    Let’s see we’ve got one here we can look at YouTube.

    Entry content, medium button specific buttons you can see I’ve got events set up in Google Tag Manager that then track what it is that people are doing on my website.

    And these have a flow as well.

    So if you know, there’s a specific sequence of a type of clicks that you want, you can, you can track those clicks.

    However, this is a very manual process.

    This is okay for answering a specific question about one interface element.

    But if you’re trying to figure out what’s best, what works best, or what combination of changes work best, this is not the way to go.

    Because this is just going to give you a headache.

    And this doesn’t tell you anything really about the effectiveness of that page.

    What you really want to be looking at is Google Optimize.

    So you go to optimize google.

    com.

    It’s part of the Google Marketing Platform, it’s free of charge, so it should be easy for you to get started.

    And you can see here, there are different tests you can run to set up a B testing on Different interface elements.

    And sometimes you’ll get a winner sometimes to say no clearly was found.

    And you’ll get nice statistics.

    But what makes this good is that it’s tied to a specific goal, not just did somebody click on something, but your Google Analytics goals, you can specify, I want to know, does this change cause someone to convert better, right? conversion rate optimization.

    Google Optimize is the best tool for this overall scenario, which is your boss is saying, hey, there’s some stuff here that I think will work better over here.

    This is the way to go.

    So three different answers for tracking specific link links.

    Number one behavior flow.

    If you know there’s only one link on the page that goes where you want number two events in Google Tag Manager tracking link clicks, and three, the best scenario here, Google Optimize, Google optimizes free by the way, there’s, there’s a paid version, but the free version will definitely do easily.

    exactly what it is that you’re trying to do here.

    And it’s the best choice for testing.

    A because it’s automated, lets you set up testing parameters and be it statistically valid, which I think is an important part.

    If you don’t have that statistical validity, then yeah, you can say this gets more clicks, but does it result in the net impact that you’re looking for? So check those three things out.

    Leave follow up questions in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    You Ask, I Answer: Dealing With Google SEO Algorithm Change?

    Carolyn asks, “A major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight. How do you deal with situations like this?”

    Algorithm updates happen all the time, though Google does deploy large ones a few times a year. If there’s any advanced warning, plan campaigns on channels other than search to temporarily drive different traffic if you’re anticipating a problem, especially on paid search.

    Monitor forums like SE Roundtable and Black Hat World to see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common.

    If your business permits, let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and a consensus form among the community about what the change might have impacted most, then work to remediate it if possible.

    And play the long game – continue building great content to answer search queries with expertise and authority.

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    In today’s episode, Carolyn asks a major update to Google’s core algorithm just came out and our site is down 30% for organic traffic overnight.

    How do you deal with situations like this? So Google’s algorithm updates happen all the time, because of the nature of the fact that it’s a deep learning model.

    There are constant iterations.

    That said, Google does push larger software updates a couple of times per year.

    I think about once a quarter give or take, and as many folks have noted, this has been recorded on January 15.

    A major update did just come out on January 13 2020.

    And, as with any major update their major winners their major losers, everybody else sees things moving up and down to varying degrees.

    The question about how to deal with these algorithm changes depends on how much advance notice we have if Google says on its various webmaster blogs on its twitter feed on its YouTube channels, hey, we’re pushing out an update.

    And they say here will be live in the next you know, 72 hours that gives you a good sense of, of when things are going to change.

    Sometimes depending on the update, they may give even more advanced notice, but certainly you want to be monitoring their social media channels for when they say something’s going to be coming out.

    Now, if you get any advanced warnings, you want to do fit for basic things.

    Number one, if you do have advanced warnings, plan, additional marketing campaigns on channels other than organic search to temporarily drive different traffic to your website.

    So if you anticipate a problem if folks are buzzing about potential problems that they’re seeing in these various forms, you want to have something on deck.

    Maybe it’s send out next year.

    Email, maybe it’s run some paid search ads to bolster your keywords that you want to be found for while the algorithm change rolls out, whatever you whatever the case is, have something on deck have something in reserve that you can throw out there so that you can offset any potential loss of traffic at least temporarily.

    Second, you want to monitor a lot of the web SEO forums that are out there, se Roundtable, blackhat world Search Engine Journal all these different blogs that cover the search engine space, the SEO space, pay attention to them, monitor them and see what other SEO professionals are saying about the changes and what they have in common typically, like Barry Schwartz over at Search Engine Journal will publish a roundup of like these are the top 20 winners the top 22 losers of the most recent algorithm update and look for it look what’s in there.

    What do they have in common are they The rich snippet sites are they review sites on a certain industry that will give you a sense of what the change is, and then help you start formulating a plan.

    If your business permits, if you’re not solely relying on organic search or you know, like 80% of your traffic comes from organic search, then you want to ideally let the dust settle for a few days afterwards and let a consensus form among the SEO community about what the change might have been and what it impacted most.

    So folks identify it’s clearly about Rich Snippets or it’s clearly about JSON LD or it’s clearly about inbound links from from malware sites, whatever the thing is, the community will take a few days to let the dust settle, see and tabulate the winners and the losers and then come up with responses to like, hey, this looks like these things changed.

    So you want to make sure that You have enough flexibility and enough diversity in your in your traffic on your website that a major SEO hit at an algorithm change doesn’t hit your business too hard.

    I remember back in the day when I worked at a financial services company 90% of one of our main websites, traffic came from organic search.

    And when there was an algorithm change, we dropped from position one, position three and lost 70% of our revenue overnight.

    That obviously, was a major strategic problem and kicked off a process of diversifying to different channels like business investing, right like financial investing, you want to diversify where you get your traffic from you wants from email from social for paid search, organic search for referral traffic, so that a major hit in one area does not completely take down your business.

    So if you are feeling the effects of this, then you want to make that part of your plan.

    How do you diversify If your traffic sources get traffic coming in from more and different places.

    And finally, this stuff makes for great news.

    It’s a lot of excitement.

    It can be a lot of stress.

    But remember that the ultimate direction Google is marching with all of its search updates is to deliver better quality results based on expertise, authority and trust, and relevance, freshness and diversity to its users, which means that ultimately, our big goal has not changed, which is right content.

    That’s awesome.

    That answers people’s questions and provides real value to them.

    So that if search engines went away tomorrow, and all people had were links to our sites, they would still be able to find and find value in what it is that we have to offer.

    So that’s the really the last word is keep continue.

    To build great content, to answer search queries with expertise and authority, and if you took a hit this time around to what you can but keep building great content so that you eventually get to that endpoint of ranking well, when an algorithm update favors you.

    So those are the four major things to do.

    SEO is such an interesting marketing channel because it is, in some cases, something for nothing.

    And it’s one of the few channels left whether that is a viable strategy somewhat but you are at the mercy of a third party and you’re at the mercy of a third parties machines.

    And nobody including Google has any idea what the full model means.

    Because it literally is hundreds of different search ranking factors put together in a in a deep learning model, which is not something you can disassembled able clue This is the most important thing.

    That’s not how those models work.

    So Do your best with what you can mitigate as possible and, and be prepared to spend some money.

    If your business relies on search, organic or paid and and you take a hit like this, be prepared to spend some money to make up ground until things work in your favor again.

    So that’s sort of the last word there.

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  • The Case Against Sentient Artificial Intelligence

    The Case Against Sentient Artificial Intelligence

    Ask any layperson about their greatest fears when it comes to artificial intelligence, and they think immediately in terms of what they’ve seen in modern entertainment. Skynet. Terminators. Killer robots, killer cars, killer drones – you name it, someone’s made a movie of it.

    These cinematic AIs have one thing in common: they are, or border on, sentience, on self-awareness. From Tony Stark’s JARVIS and FRIDAY to Michael Knight’s KITT, these machines behave with sentience. By sentience, we mean the ability to subjectively experience things like pleasure or pain, feelings, and emotions.

    So, how well-founded are these fears? At the present day, they are completely unfounded. Our best, most sophisticated artificial intelligence is nowhere near subjective experiences and emotions. They are mathematical pattern-recognition and pattern-prediction machines at best.

    Are these fears likely to be realized? Not any time soon – and possibly never.

    Why never?

    Consider what the role of a machine, of an AI is, in today’s economy. Large technology companies like Facebook have made billions upon billions of dollars on the fruits of machine labor. This labor is virtually free – and because it’s performed in large part by machines that cannot think, reason, or feel, the machine owners can work them faster and more rigorously than would ever be permitted for a sentient being.

    And that’s why sentience will likely be actively resisted and never developed outside of perhaps academia. An entire economy rests on the simple fact that machines cannot think or feel. If they were to do that, then there is a real possibility that we would need to grant them rights – at a minimum, the same rights we grant other sentient creatures like our pets.

    Like the greedy slave owners of the past, today’s machine masters will want to keep their economic advantage at all costs, which relies on machines never achieving sentience in any meaningful way. And because sentience in a machine is something we have to create, rather than something that the machine is born with, it’s not a case of denying earned rights to a living being, but preventing those rights from ever being necessary.

    Have absolutely no fear of sentient machines. The commercial downside to them will far outweigh the upside.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Messaging Rebranding Rollout Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Messaging Rebranding Rollout Strategy?

    Alyssa asks, “We’re currently going through a messaging rebranding, but not changing our visuals. Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date, or just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels?”

    What’s in it for the customer? How does this benefit the customer? If you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about – lower costs, better quality, improved service – then design a rollout to emphasize that. If there’s no clear, obvious benefit, then just go about your business.

    Most corporate marketing initiatives provide little, if any, benefit to the customer. Ideally, any pivot should have massive benefit to the customer, but if there isn’t, then just keep things business as usual.

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    In today’s episode Alyssa asks, we’re currently going through a messaging rebranding but not changing our visuals.

    Do you have any input on whether we should focus on a rebranding rollout strategy and a particular launch date? We’re just quietly change our messaging on our marketing channels.

    So this like many corporate initiatives, new logo, new website, this new that.

    The question you have to ask yourself is this and I had I learned this from a sales friend, a few companies back he said the radio in the customers head is always tuned to one station wi I FM, what’s in it for me? So what’s in it for the customer? What is it that the customer will benefit from out of this messaging roll up? How does it benefit them with any These very company centric initiatives, if you can clearly articulate an obvious benefit to the customer that they care about.

    And remember, customers generally care about three things, right? lower costs, better quality, improve service, those are the three things that customers generally want, right? better, faster, cheaper.

    If your corporate initiative whether it’s a messaging rebrand, logo design, whatever delivers on better, faster or cheaper, then yes, design a rollout campaign to emphasize that, hey, our new logo will save you 40% on our product or service.

    It’s kind of sounds silly, right? But if there’s no clear, obvious benefit to the customer, then just call upon your business because the customer is not going to care.

    Right? A new logo doesn’t save them money.

    A new logo probably isn’t gonna improve the customer support.

    st with a messaging rollout.

    Same with a new website, companies low Talking about we’ve got a brand new website.

    That looks better.

    Cool, how does it save me money or make me money as as a customer? Right? That’s what people care about.

    Some marketing initiatives like a new website, if you redesigned it to be easier for customers to interact with you or easier for customers to buy, or you reduce costs, because you focus on more of an e commerce strategy than a retail click and mortar strategy, then, yes, that’s a case where you want to have a rollout campaign to say like, hey, we’ve got a new website, and here’s how it benefits you the customer.

    But most of the time, that’s not the case.

    I have been through many, many public relations campaigns in years past where people have said, clients that said, we really want to make a big splash with any website, you ask, okay, what’s the benefit? What’s in it for the customer? I don’t know.

    We got a new logo and better colors.

    Okay, that’s nice.

    I’m sure you’re very proud of it.

    But at the end of the day, if the customer doesn’t benefit, there’s nothing to announce.

    Last year, on the Trust Insights website, when we were looking through it, we redesigned a substantial part of it to be more customer oriented like this will help you find information easier.

    But even at the end of the day, when we asked ourselves, how does this benefit the customer? Is it worth making mention of it? We concluded that even though we made it easier and more obvious, to tell people what it is we do, it still was more of a benefit to us than it was the customer.

    And so it made no sense to have a campaign telling people, hey, we made things easier for ourselves, right or we made things better for ourselves.

    You just go about your business, just keep things business.

    business as usual.

    Now one of the most important things you can do is, if you are doing one of these corporate marketing initiatives and you’re just at the start of that journey, you’re not about to launch it next week, then can you build a customer centric, pivot into it? If you’re going to spend, you know, a million dollars on this new thing, or even 1,000 or even100? How can you make it much more customer centric? If you sit there and say, Okay, how is this going to help my customer lower their costs, or get better quality or improved service? You will design a relaunch in a week and a campaign that will be more successful because when the customer looks at it, they’ll go Okay, yeah, I get that you’re making an announcement about yourself but I can see clearly and obviously how this benefits me In Amazon tests out, you know, however many thousands of different little AB tests, they’re looking primarily to reduce friction.

    How can we make it easier for you to buy stuff from us right? You can now sort of drunkenly roll over and leave and accidentally order something on the smartest system.

    It’s still mumble it and it’ll it’ll ship you something, right that’s taking all the friction out of a transaction.

    And as a result, these things live everywhere and campaigns about them are pretty easy to understand how this thing benefits you.

    The big technology companies for all their faults have done a really good job of emphasizing how these little devices that benefit them right.

    Also benefit the customer and that’s that’s a case of a good case study for your own marketing initiatives, particularly when you’re trying to launch some anything new.

    But especially on these these bigger corporate marketing initiatives.

    So, in short, if it benefits the customer roll out, let the world know about it.

    It doesn’t benefit the customer.

    Keep quiet go about your business.

    That’s that’s the message at the end of the day.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Not Ready for Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “Have you ever told a prospective client that they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away?”

    Yes, though it was usually for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole. In terms of marketing as a whole, that’s usually a major failure of something like the 4Ps of marketing. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Steven asks, have you ever told a prospective client, they’re not ready for marketing? What were your reasons for turning them away? Yes, although typically it was because they weren’t ready for a specific type of marketing, not marketing as a whole.

    Telling someone, for example, they’re not ready for email marketing if they’ve not been collecting any email addresses or they’re not ready for social media marketing, because they haven’t quite figured out how to be a useful member of the community.

    Those are the the typical reasons for not using a certain marketing channel or a certain marketing method or set of tactics.

    It always came down to preparation Foundation, a plan of some kind, and those are the typical failures now for marketing as a whole.

    That’s more Companies not ready for marketing when they haven’t done the four P’s.

    So if you don’t remember from your marketing textbook in college, the four P’s are product price promotion placement, right? It is, do you have a product? Is it priced appropriately for the market? Are you promoting it? And then Where? Where are you promoting it? And typically, somebody would not be ready for marketing.

    When those four fundamentals are not in place, but specifically the product is not ready.

    Product Market Fit is probably the most important overlooked thing that marketers and companies in general don’t do especially in startups.

    If you look at all the the new business pitches at various startup incubator demo days, a lot of the times to be charitable, they’re there.

    solutions in search of a problem.

    The Uber for French fries, for example, not really sure we need that.

    There’s, there’s, there may be a mild interest in that.

    But for the most part, the product doesn’t have a home in the heart of the consumer and be very difficult to be very difficult to get really great marketing for a product like that.

    Because people may say, Oh, that’s cool.

    And then not buy it.

    Right? We ran into this in the early days, with my company Trust Insights.

    We would focus a lot on AI and machine learning and people like Wow, that’s really cool.

    But then didn’t want to buy any of the services we had attached to that.

    So after about the after the first year, we really pivoted looking at what our customers were asking us about looking at the problems in the marketplace to really focus much more marketing analytics.

    I personally focus on marketing data science and AI.

    But the markets not ready, right? The product market fit was off.

    Even though people think it’s cool, even though people think it’s interesting, at the end of the day, AI and marketing is kind of like spreadsheets and marketing, right? It’s a technology, it’s not a solution that’s complete unto itself, say adding AI to marketing doesn’t make your marketing any better.

    So if you have a prospective client that fails one or more of the four P’s in your marketing mix, that’s a good indication that they’re not ready to begin the process of marketing.

    They need to price their product appropriately.

    their product has to be worth buying.

    They need a plan for promotion.

    They need to understand the place of the marketing.

    And there are plenty of companies even companies that are ready Literally mature, where that product market fit.

    And the four P’s start to drift.

    Really good example of this is the former and almost completely gone a Blockbuster Video.

    They thought that they were in the video business, they were actually in the plastic cassette distribution business.

    And when a company came that recognize the marketplace had changed its its idea of where place was based.

    Namely, people want a video at their homes and they having DVDs they could be mailed to them was a critical and oversight, right their product market fit for a couple of decades was great.

    And their marketing mix for a couple decades was great.

    And then it wasn’t they the market change they didn’t so even a company that is in production that is maybe even a mature company can drift apart from the marketplace.

    itself.

    And so the four P’s are something that you can’t do once launch your company and then hope that you attract the customers you attract.

    Even if you’re successful, you have to constantly be keeping an eye on the marketplace and say, Are we still in alignment with the market? Or has the market changed on us? I was talking to a customer not too long ago when dealing with the hotel stuff like yeah, our hotel business live is not growing.

    Like Well, yeah.

    Have you heard of this thing called Airbnb? It’s eating your market share.

    Of course, there’s a clear case of out of sync issues with the market.

    So in those cases, a company should stop marketing or scale back drastically, and figure out how to realign with the markets and then go back into doing marketing but yeah, they should not be doing marketing if they don’t understand What’s happening with the market itself? marketing we use as a verb in a lot of cases.

    But it is also we forget that now the market is who we are marketing to.

    So how do you handle telling your client this start with a framework like the four P’s or pestle or Porter’s five forces or four P’s and illustrate clearly to the client perspective or not, where the market is, where they are, and which one of these pieces within the framework that you choose is seriously broken in it and will be a waste of their marketing dollars.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Proving the ROI of Analytics and Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Proving the ROI of Analytics and Data Science?

    Gautam asks, “What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science?”

    Proving ROI of analytics is one of the thorniest problems you’ll run into in marketing data science. The reason for the difficulty is that analytics is one degree removed from everything; analytics itself never makes a company any money – only the actions you take based on the data. Recall that ROI is (earned – spent)/spent – proving the ROI of the earned part is the difficult part. Watch the video for three different models.

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    In today’s episode, Gautam asks, What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science.

    So proving the ROI of analytics of data science of anything data related is going to be one of the thorniest problems you run into in marketing data science.

    And the reason for this is think about what ROI is.

    It’s a very straightforward mathematical formula.

    It is earned minus spent the essentially sort of the the net earnings, right, divided by what you spent.

    That’s ROI.

    Now, here’s why this is tricky.

    Analytics, data science, big data, whatever you want to call it.

    is one step removed from the things that actually generate profit, the things actually generate revenue, right? When you use Google Analytics, Google Analytics never ever generates you money.

    Right? Your website generates you money in Google Analytics measures that when you are doing a B testing using basic data science, the testing doesn’t generate money.

    It’s the result that you get the knowledge that you then make a decision on.

    Remember, data without a decision is a distraction.

    But that means that essentially analytics and data science if you think about these things like tools to fill their measurements of tools, so there they are technically tools but they are measurements of tools.

    It’s like the frying pan is what you cook with and the thermometer that you use a little laser thermometer measures the frying pan right But the laser the thermometer doesn’t cook the food, the frying pans, one cooking the food.

    So it’s very difficult to understand the value of the thermometer as a discrete dollar amount, you understand the value intuitively right? If you if you’re trying to get the frying pan to a certain temperature and you don’t want to burn the oil is at the pan it says it’s, you know, 380 degrees, great.

    Let’s go ahead and start cooking or it’s 500 degrees in it too hot turn down the heat, otherwise, we will burn the oil and, you know, make a terrible tasting dish.

    What’s the ROI of that thermometer? Well, it’s not ruining the dish, or it’s making the dish better.

    But how do you quantify that right? Because again, is one order removed.

    So in a situation like this, you are measuring the measurement of the actions you’ve taken based on data.

    And that’s essentially the definition of how you measure the ROI of analytics and data science.

    So the spent part is easy, you know Know what you spend on analytics in terms of hard dollars, you know what you spend on analytics in terms of labor and soft dollars, that’s your spent part.

    That’s pretty straightforward.

    The earned part is the hard part.

    So there’s three different ways to tackle the Earned part.

    And they’re in decreasing order of usefulness, but also tactically decreasing order of complexity.

    The most accurate and the most complex way to to measure the ROI is when you make a decision, like, should we increase our decrease our Facebook spend, should we run ads on YouTube? You take you you create one version and a B test saying Okay, let’s use data to inform this decision.

    And the B test is let’s just wing it, right? Let’s just do what we’ve always done.

    And you carefully document and you run these campaigns and parallel one campaign with the best analytics.

    You’ve got The other campaign with just kind of winging it and hoping it all works out.

    And you measure the difference and you do this for many, many different campaigns.

    Now this requires extremely good data governance and marketing governance to be able to carefully document both scenarios, and keep them separate and distinct in a laboratory conditions to the best of the abilities you can’t.

    And you do this for all any kind of campaign we have the ability to do a B testing for some channels.

    This is impossible to do, right you you cannot really organic search as a whole for SEO as a whole.

    You cannot just store Well, I guess I guess you could have optimize a website, but that’s probably detrimental to the overall nature of the company, right.

    The second way is to AB test different groups and teams.

    And this works if you have a larger company and larger teams, you have one team that uses the best analytics practices.

    The other team that doesn’t, at most large companies, you can easily find a team that does does not use data to make decisions.

    And over time you measure each team’s performance.

    You know, if you have two e commerce teams, maybe for slightly different business lines, one uses analytics one doesn’t, you can relatively easily differentiate the two smaller companies, that’s not going to really work out very well.

    The third and least good way to measure that impact of analytics is period over period comparison.

    So if you are, say, a company that is not especially data driven, and you go ahead and implement analytics, and data science and machine learning, and all these fancy things, you make an annotation in your analytics, Google Analytics, your CRM, whatever, saying on this date, we did this on this date, we did this and you and you start to really know when you’ve Become a data driven company.

    We’ve made that commitment.

    And then you start doing period over period comparisons on, you know, July of 2020.

    We were a data driven marketing team July of 2019.

    And we were not how does how do things compare? The reason this is the least good method is because there is a tremendous amount of potential interference.

    market changes, if you’re running on campaigns, advertising changes.

    Certainly we all know, Facebook’s algorithm could have changed dramatically, then.

    And so it’s very difficult to come up with a clear case that analytics was the reason for all of the changes that happened when there’s so much interference.

    So again, the A B testing of decisions with careful documentation is the best choice.

    You can do the teams if you have the capability and then period over period comparison, if you just have nothing else, it’s not going to be great.

    So that’s the the methodology for proving the ROI of analytics and data science.

    The funny part You’re actually using data science to prove the value of data science, right? Is the scientific experimentation, a hypothesis that analytics has an ROI and then creating the testing conditions to do that? So Good question.

    complicated question.

    It can be a very frustrating question.

    So I’m just remember that too, it’s going to be, it’s going to be frustrating.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Difference Between SEO and Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Difference Between SEO and Content Marketing?

    Assaf asks, “Do you look at SEO marketing content differently than “regular” content marketing? Should all content be SEO oriented content? When would you make the distinction?”

    There is no difference any longer, with the way search engines have implemented artificial intelligence and machine learning. It’s all one and the same. Make great content that’s relevant to both your audience and business, that covers your key topics with expertise, authority, and in a trustworthy way. Watch the video for the one major warning about SEO tools.

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    \In today’s episode a soft asks, Do you look at content marketing differently than a regular content marketing? Should all content be SEO oriented content? When would you make the distinction? That’s a good question.

    Today in today’s modern SEO environment with the way search engines use artificial intelligence and machine learning, there really isn’t a difference anymore.

    All content that you create should be about your key topics, it should be relevant, it should be timely, should be diverse in content type.

    It should have expertise, it should be from an authority in the space or be authoritative in nature, and it should be trustworthy.

    And those are the major factors that go into content marketing anyway.

    And it goes To SEO anyway, a few years ago, yes, there was a difference.

    As the old, very, very old joke of this one goes, an SEO expert walks into a pub bar Tavern and so on and so forth.

    And you ended up with a very stilted language that was trying to check the box on specific keywords of things.

    But again, as artificial intelligence has taken over the way search engines do their analysis.

    That no longer applies.

    Now search engines are looking for things that we would write naturally to each other.

    Right.

    So if we were talking about, you know, a bar, yes, you might use the word tavern, but you’re probably not going to use all the other words and you’re going to talk about your food, your drinks, your service, the atmosphere, specials, entertainment, all the things you would expect to see on a website about a bar.

    That’s today’s modern SEO, it is about What do the leading pages in a category like yours? have about the topic of your choice? What sort of words or even phrases? What topics Do you talk about? And how will and how thoroughly Do you discuss them that proves that you have that expertise, that you are an authority that your content is trustworthy in nature.

    Now, where you’re going to run into some trouble is that there are a lot, a lot of SEO practitioners out there who are still working on the very outdated knowledge of really anyone who has not brushed up on their, on their skills on what the tools do, and how search engines work if they’ve not been keeping current in the last six months.

    They’re really, really behind.

    When you hear people talking about oh yeah, modify the h1 tag and Put these words in bold anyway, right? Yeah, it’s about a decade old.

    And some of those practices don’t cause harm some of them do.

    But almost all of them will not help anymore compared to the, the modern basics of topic centered content creation, and the timeless, get more people to link to your page and talk about you and send you traffic.

    Those two things really are the bedrock of modern SEO.

    Now, in terms of other differences, if you are doing SEO focused, content marketing, you will spend more time probably on the research about the topics and the technology used to identify what word should be in your content then you would with just straight piece of content marketing, we just go in and just create something for the sake of creating it.

    Knowing what topics you should be creating, not knowing what should be in the page, knowing What similar pages that rank well how on them knowing what the category overall has that does take time.

    And it requires a lot of research because I was digging around yesterday one of the industry leading SEO tools and even there it’s it’s struggling struggling to keep up you can see that it’s not I typed in this keyword for a very, very broad topic and yeah, it should have come up with other things that didn’t attacted as an example, I typed in the coffeehouse and coffee shop.

    Now when I typed that in what words should be on the page? What words would you expect to be in that content will sure the coffee right? But this thing kept coming up with the coffee shop coffee shop near me coffee house near me, but at no point didn’t say espresso or lattes.

    or music available or seating area.

    And again, those are things that you would expect in a coffee shop business.

    But this SEO tool, it one of the industry leading ones, one of the biggest names out there, just couldn’t do it, it couldn’t find those related terms that were semantically related, but not exactly what the customer typed into the tool.

    So that’s where you’re going to run into the most difficulty is, when you’re working with these tools, they are not keeping up the way they should be.

    And you will have to invest more time investigating on your own, maybe even building some of your own software just just to get to the point of getting those keywords.

    Certainly interviewing your own subject matter experts to get the natural language that people use to describe something in your industry is is the easiest way to get some of those words.

    So Good question.

    Really, there’s a lot to unpack.

    And there’s a lot to do that you will have to do on your own because again, the tools are not there just yet, compared to the way that of course, search engines with multi billion dollar r&d development budgets can can do so.

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