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  • You Ask, I Answer: Where To Start Using Marketing Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Where To Start Using Marketing Data Science?

    Ashwin asks, “I have data around me related to campaigns – emails, phone calls, and survey data – so how should I start analyzing it?”

    First, let’s recall that marketing data science is about the application of the scientific method to data. Our first priority, then, is to use the data we have, techniques like KPI mapping, and some exploratory techniques to build the hypothesis we want to test. Watch the video for full details.

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    IBM.

    In today’s episode Ashwin asks, I have data around me related to campaign emails, phone calls and survey data.

    So how should I start analyzing it? Nope.

    First let’s recall that the the entire point of marketing data science is to apply the scientific method to data right to marketing data, in particular for doing marketing data science.

    And therefore, we need to start the scientific method, the scientific method begins with a question, then you define the problem and the data you need.

    And you build a hypothesis that building on that hypothesis is the first start.

    So before we can go any further, we need to understand the question and we need to define the the data we’re going to need.

    So if you have all this data laying around, that’s great.

    What is the problem What is the question that we’re trying to ask it trying to answer? Are we trying to find out what drives revenue, drivers leads, builds, loyalty reduces complaints, there’s all these different outcomes that we want to know.

    most marketers have at least some role in creating demand that results in either lead generation or sales of some kind of revenue targets.

    So that’s the place that you normally would start and you do an exercise that we call KPI mapping, where you take that ultimate end goal and then map backwards.

    The steps you need to take in order to find a metric that is within your measurement sphere.

    So you might care about revenue and revenue comes from in a b2b example, closed one deals in the b2c example would be you know, consumer sales.

    And from there okay, what drives that number? Well, if closed one deals are created by Open deals, sales are preceded by say shopping carts, filled shopping carts.

    And you just keep working your way back until you get to a metric that you have control over.

    You have visibility into and you understand what influences it.

    And from there, you define what other data do you have? And do you need any other data.

    So let’s say your b2b marketer, your key metric, the KPI that you probably care about really is going to be that lead generation.

    And if you’re a b2c marketer, you’re probably care very much about shopping carts filled on the e commerce side or maybe people who walk in your store, whatever the case may be, find that number.

    And then you build a hypothesis.

    If you say that The green button on our website would perform better as a red button.

    And you believe that a change to the red button would give you an increase of 5% in your shopping carts filled.

    Now you have a provably true or false statement, right? That is a singular condition that you can go and test.

    And that’s that right there is the heart of data science is I’ve come up with a hypothesis.

    Now I need to use the scientific method to test it out to prove or disprove that statement.

    To go and change the button color, you collect data, you analyze it and you find out the red button has no lift sales, okay? You’ve disprove them hypothesis.

    So the question is when you have all this data, emails and phone calls and survey data, what is it you’re trying to prove? Chances are and this is something you get to in that different Fine stage early on, you’re not going to use all that information all the time, you may only use some of the pieces of data, you may want to do a deep dive into a particular data pools if you have all these emails, great, what influences open rate of your emails, time of day, day of week, domain name of the email you’re sending it to.

    So in that defined stage of the scientific method, you’re going to be doing a lot of what’s called exploratory data analysis where you’re going to engineer out all those features that essentially would be like extra columns in the spreadsheet from the data to try and come to a point where you can develop a hypothesis.

    So the question is, what drives emails? Is it the length of the subject line? Is it who it sent from Think of all the characteristics of an email that just sitting in your inbox, all the different ways you could analyze it? And then, being based on that corporate hypothesis, you hypothesize that sending emails on Sunday results in a 15% greater open rate than sending email on Tuesdays.

    And it has to about point you can begin the testing process because you have a provably true or false singular condition that you’re testing.

    It’s important to say that that singular condition is vital for good testing, because if you’re trying to test more than one variable, same time, it gets really messy, it gets complicated you can be done.

    There’s a technique called multivariate testing, but you need really good software for it and you need a statistically relevant sample size of your of your population.

    If you have, say, an email list of, say, 1000 people, you’re gonna have to test with about half of that list just to get any kind of margin of error, that’s reasonable.

    You may just have to test the whole list.

    And so it becomes if you have a small sample size, it can become very, very difficult.

    So Decide what you’re trying to test.

    Right? build that question, define it, do your exploratory data analysis, come up with your hypothesis? Very often what will happen is that the first time run, you do go through even just an exploratory phase, you’re going to end up with like 10 or 15 different hypotheses, you’re going to end up with a whole bunch of stuff.

    And the question for you will then be, okay, well, what is the most important and that’s that that’s the reason why we do the KPI mapping early on so that you can figure out what is closest to the end of the chain of evidence for revenue, right? If you’re testing audience metrics, but your boss cares about revenue, you and your boss is so far apart on on different metrics that while your investigation and your proof may be valuable, it will not have the impact that your Boss is looking for what your company is looking for your stakeholders.

    So make sure that you use that KPI mapping to prioritize either the most important thing to the company, which is pretty much always going to be in revenue, at least in normal business, or you prioritize the thing that’s most broken thing that is just working lease.

    Well, that’s, that’s where you’re going to spend your time.

    So figure that out, figure out how to figure out what it is that is the priority to test it and then go with that really good question.

    Challenging lots to unpack lots of experimentation do that’s the other thing with data science, you’re doing a lot of experimentation.

    So give yourself some time.

    Give yourself some resources and, and be patient.

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  • What is Ethics in Marketing?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    We live in challenging times as marketers. Our effectiveness is now dependent on so many different strategies, tactics, methodologies, partners, tools, and audiences that being effective sometimes appears to conflict with being ethical. Every day, we see stories in the news, in our social feeds, in our blogs about marketers crossing the line, doing dishonorable or outright criminal things in pursuit of marketing results, from disingenuous product pitches to illegal data harvesting.

    How do we balance the results we must generate with creating results we are proud of?

    What is Ethics in Marketing?

    Most ethics discussions revolve around moral values of good and bad, right and wrong, which can vary significantly depending on your spiritual, religious, and cultural backgrounds. To reconcile these variations and find a definition of ethics which is most compatible with varying morals, we’ll look at a perspective called utilitarian ethics, a perspective suggested by philosophers such as John Stuart Mill.

    Utilitarianism defines ethical practices as: Those practices that result in the greatest good and/or the greatest happiness for all.

    Thus, adapting this definition, ethics is marketing is to market in ways which create the greatest good, the greatest happiness for all.

    Examples of Ethical Failures in Marketing

    Based on this definition, what would be some examples of marketing successes, but ethical failures?

    • Achieving our marketing goals by making outrageous claims that earn clicks or leads, but making the lives of our sales and customer service teams miserable.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing and selling a product that causes more harm than good.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by marketing with false claims but damaging our relationships with the media, with the public, or with government officials.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by polluting or destroying the environment around us.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by using data to target vulnerable customers and amplifying negative emotions to compel them to buy our product.
    • Achieving our marketing goals by spreading or amplifying false information to create emotional reactions in our ads.

    All these examples highlight ways in which marketing achieves success, but at the expense of others.

    Ethics in Marketing

    When we use our utilitarian definition of ethics, clear, concise definition, applying ethics in marketing becomes straightforward.

    First and foremost, does our product or service result in greater harm than good? If so, then we will have an awfully hard time marketing it using ethical practices because its very existence is harmful. In a situation where our product or service is inherently harmful, we should probably find work elsewhere. This is something I struggled with for years when I was working in the student loan industry. Ultimately, my solution was to try to get people to do everything possible not to use our product, but then offer them the product as a last resort and educate them on the consequences of it. In the end, however, I ended up leaving the field to work somewhere else.

    Second, many marketing practices have little to no ethical impact. For example, much ado was made of the fact that a notable social media influencer didn’t write all of their own social media posts. Other social media practitioners decried that as inauthentic. Is the use of a ghostwriter ethical? If the posts were helpful, if the posts provided value, then the practice was ethical in the sense that it was doing the maximum good possible, even if the influencer wasn’t writing a single one. All that was required was that the authors of his posts were creating the maximum amount of good, as much or more than the influencer. If the influencer could only afford to write 2 posts a day that benefitted his audience, but his ghostwriter could write 10 of the same quality, then by definition he brought 5x more good to the world.

    Third, some marketing practices are clearly unethical. For example, if we lie about what our product does and the consumer ends up finding out the reality after purchase, we’re creating unhappiness. We’re doing harm. If we tell the truth about our product or service and set realistic expectations, our customers will be happier because we meet their expectations. Behaving in an ethical manner is the cornerstone of long-term profitability! Create more happiness rather than less, do more good rather than less, and it’s inevitable that people will want our product in their lives more.

    Finally, remember that the definition and ideal to strive for is to do the greatest good possible, which means minimizing or eliminating harm when and where possible. What if we’re confronted with a situation where a small amount of harm is generated, or significant harm to a tiny number of people, and a large amount of good results? Our goal is to explore ways to remove that harm, and to find a better way to achieve the same result with less harm done. What if marketing adopted the Hippocratic oath – first, do no harm? How would your marketing change?

    If we set our goals to require that we create the maximum amount of good possible, there’s a strong chance that we’ll create innovative new ways of doing the same old things. That eventually leads to transformation of our products, services, practices, and company, a transformation that we will be proud of, proud to market as loudly as possible to the world. Do enough good, create enough happiness, and the world will want us to win.

    Disclosure: this post was written in 2012 and has been updated to remain relevant.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    Talesa asks, “What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, quarterly, yearly, even daily?”

    Start with this simple question: what do you need to make decisions on at those frequencies? What decisions do you need to make daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly? That guides what data you need to look at – and then I recommend building Google Data Studio dashboards to pull out and highlight those data points, and then schedule regular emails from Data Studio.

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    In today’s episode to Lisa asks, What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, daily, yearly, even? What monthly, daily, quarterly, yearly, etc? Start with a simple question, what decisions do you need to make at those frequencies? Right? What decisions do you need to make every day, every week, every month, every quarter every year? chances are there’s some pretty typical data points you need for things like setting budgets, making calendars, etc.

    Those decisions should then drive what reporting you’re looking at.

    One of the critical mistakes people make with tools like Google Analytics is they just dive in, start clicking around, find a bunch of stuff and consume the data consume the analytics, but they don’t.

    They don’t have any reason for doing other than to look around accepted periods of time when they got to do like a quarterly reporting or something like a quarterly board reviews, etc.

    and not having a very clear purpose and function.

    Not having a very clear idea of what you want to use the data for means that it tends to become very onerous.

    And Google Analytics is a fantastic application.

    I love it.

    It is the backbone of a lot of the work that we do at Trust Insights.

    But it’s a lot of information.

    And so the first thing you need to do is figure out what exact information you need from it.

    And then I would say, don’t use Google Analytics.

    Be like, Okay, wait, you just said you loved belt.

    Don’t use it for reporting.

    Google Analytics is a great tool for analysis.

    Hence, the name is a great tool for data collection.

    It is not a great tool for reporting.

    The tool you want to look at for reporting is Google Data Studio, which is a dashboarding tool that plugs into Google Analytics natively.

    allows you to extract just the pieces and bits that you need in order to make decisions and put them on dashboards.

    So, based on the decisions you need to make, like I need to make monthly reports on these topics, or I need to make decisions about my SEO program for the next month, or I need to make a budgeting decision on advertising.

    Every week.

    Make write out a list, maybe start a spreadsheet or a Word document or something like that.

    Have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly.

    Make a list of what questions you need to answer or what decisions you need to make.

    And then identify the key data points within Google Analytics that answer those questions.

    If you’re saying like I need to judge my, my, my ad effectiveness for display ads, okay, great.

    You need to get data about display advertisement performance from Google Analytics and you can then make a list up like the channel grouping that you want Or the source, medium, etc.

    and then build a Data Studio dashboard for each of those key questions.

    So you might have a daily dashboard for daily questions you need to answer, weekly dashboard monthly dashboard quarterly dashboard yearly dashboard.

    And the reason to do this is you want those dashboards to be distilled down to the data points you need to make decisions on, and then have them be pre built so that when it comes time to make that decision, you know, like, I gotta, you know, take two hours to go trawling through Google Analytics and get the data points from everywhere, don’t just go to the dashboard that you made, put the work in up front to get the great reporting structure, and then just go in and grab the information that you need to make those decisions.

    I also recommend with Data Studio, you can schedule it to email you.

    And this obviously lacks the internet interactivity of the real dashboard.

    But more than anything, it’s just a good way to remember yourself to actually look at those dashboards.

    If you know that you have a quarterly board review coming up at the end of every quarter, that a week before have Data Studio drop, essentially an email reminder in your inbox saying, Hey, here’s the data.

    And again, that will help you help reduce those last minute crunches when it comes to dealing with reporting asks, right because the you built the dashboard, the data is there.

    And you can, you can take the time then to do your analysis, to derive your insights from it rather than just copying and pasting and, and ignoring the data.

    That’s probably the most impactful thing you can do use tools like Google Analytics and Google Data Studio to get the data together.

    And then the time that you would have spent clicking around and taking screenshots and Google Analytics and stuff, it is time you can now spend doing actual analysis to say hey, These are the trends we see.

    And here’s what this means.

    And here’s how it impacts the business.

    Here’s the decisions that either we’re going to make, or the decisions we need approvals on TrustInsights.ai One of the things we have is called the st reporting framework, which is just a five part structure about how all reports should start.

    And then you customize it customize, which is summary of the stakeholder has two minutes, they should read that the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happen, the next steps as to what decisions you need made, and then the timeline, the timeline of those decisions.

    And by focusing down into that very clear framework, you can eliminate a lot of fluff that goes into reports.

    And the reports purpose is clear.

    Either you’re giving someone a report to to obtain a decision or you’re presenting a decision and waiting for them to effectively negated override it either way By being that focused in your reporting, it’s very clear what it is that the reports purposes.

    And again, I can’t emphasize enough, have those dashboards in place so that you don’t need to run the reports.

    They’re just pulling data all the time.

    Anytime somebody opens the thing up, that will save you enormous amounts of time I was doing some client work the other day, and I put on my agenda of, you know, send report monthly reporting to this client for some of their SEO stuff.

    And I’m like, I could just build a Data Studio dashboard.

    And then every month, send, have it automated, send them a reminder, like, Hey, your reports ready.

    There’s no extra work for building the report every month.

    Now I can invest my time for that client, something more valuable to them, which is doing the analysis of it, and giving them recommendations or suggestions or asking them for decisions like hey, I noticed this thing slipped here.

    How do you want to optimize that page? Or I noticed this page is doing really well.

    Maybe you should add it to add some paid dollars behind it to boost it.

    That’s the that’s the value that you bring as an analyst or as a data scientist.

    It’s not regurgitating data.

    It is presenting your interpretation of the data, and the ways you think it will help the business grow.

    So use the tools, use the schedulers, save time, and then and then use the saves time to add additional value that the report alone can convey.

    That would be my best recommendations for Google Analytics reporting.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science and Executive Buy-In?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Data Science and Executive Buy-In?

    Albert asks, “What is the best way to sell the idea of marketing data science to executives that don’t see its value, without making them lose face or look bad?”

    Generally speaking, most executives want the same things – save money, save time, make money. Without pointing out specific failures, look for opportunities where a campaign has gone off the rails because decisions were made that went in the face of data, and share how proper use of the scientific method could have saved the campaign or prevented the mistakes in the first place.

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    In today’s episode and Albert asks, What is the best way to sell the idea of marketing data science to executives that don’t see it’s value without making them lose face or look bad? So data science is a practice, right? There’s nothing really to buy.

    It is a methodology using the scientific method, and technical, mathematical and business skills.

    And so it blends in pretty well with pretty much anything that’s going on in an organization that has data and wants to get more value out of it.

    Generally speaking, is is not always true for all organizations and people but generally speaking, most executives want the same things right.

    They want get their bonus, they don’t want to look bad, they don’t want get fired.

    And fundamentally, it comes down to wanting to save time.

    Save money or make money, right? Those are kind of the three big levers that most executives want to be able to have at their disposal.

    How can I make this go faster? How can I think make things more efficient? How can I make things more productive? And this is true across, you know, almost every industry and discipline.

    So there’s a couple different ways you can sell in the idea of data science to an organization first is, you know, without pointing out specific failures, unless they’re pretty high profile, and everyone knows it, or ideally, pointed out competitors, failures, people like that a whole lot more.

    look for opportunities where campaign went off the rails because people made decisions that went in the face of data went in the face of proper analysis.

    You can see when a competitor has a misstep, and you’re like, you know, if only they had actually done some research and And not put out an ad or campaign or creative or an email that was so tone deaf or out of step with a marketplace.

    That’s how you can point out the value of data science to somebody who doesn’t necessarily understand it.

    A lot of the times you don’t get buy in for a few reasons, right you one is they don’t understand what it is they’re buying.

    Two is they feel there’s too much risk.

    And three, there’s not enough upside.

    If they feel there’s too much risk, it’s because they don’t understand it is because they don’t understand in this case, a discipline way of thinking right there’s you’re not selling somebody a piece of software.

    Yes, there are software costs or agency costs or whatever.

    Once you make a commitment to go down that route, but the principles of data science the discipline of data scientists That’s that its way of thinking.

    So when you look at a competitor that’s made a misstep and made a decision that flies in the face of data, share how proper use of the scientific method could have saved that campaign, it could have prevented the mistakes in the first place.

    Oh, you put out a an advertisement for a certain thing on a day that was culturally insensitive, right, that’s a clearly doing something in in the face of known data.

    And it’s a way to say to somebody Look, this is if you just done a little bit of work, and run a small test to an to an audience to prove the value or to prove effectiveness, then you can will have a big one.

    That’s the scientific method, right? You test with a hypothesis, proven true or false, refine it, and repeat over and over again until you figure out what really works.

    That’s the essence of data science.

    It’s just the scientific method using your data.

    So for buy in Focus on the competitors.

    Find the lever that works for the executive.

    And ultimately, show them how you would have done things differently.

    And when it comes to launching your first data science initiatives within the company, look for small, easy things to start with.

    Right? Don’t try and build a massive, massive infrastructure.

    say let’s I want to use the scientific method properly, to AB test, a call to action on the website, right? So that way you can use existing tools like Google Optimize, that can handle the test, collect and analyze phases of the scientific method.

    I say I’m just looking to try and improve conversion rates on that button there by 2%.

    It’s very, it would be very difficult for an executive to say okay, you want to improve conversion rates on one little thing for a short period of time, with no investment.

    What do they got to lose? Right, using industry proven tools, find that pilot and if you happen to deliver more than 2%, great.

    If you don’t, they’re not out anything and you can say, yeah, we ran an experiment, we proved that there is no value in changing the color of the call to action.

    Right? That’s easy.

    That’s simple.

    That is understandable.

    People can wrap their brains around that and go, Okay, we’re just going to run a test to try and improve conversion a little bit here.

    Right? Run AV test in email, and look at your calendar, look at your organization and say, Okay, we’re going to do this at the least busy time, so that we’re not you know, don’t do it.

    Like if you’re a retailer and you’re and you want to embrace data science, don’t do it in the middle of the holiday season, right? Do it after the holidays, do it when it’s quiet and you’re still getting some traffic and stuff, but your whole company’s future is not hindering on it.

    That way, people again, you’re trying to mitigate risk.

    You’re trying to reassure people that this is a relatively risk free way of thinking about using your data.

    So there’s a lot of different ways to approach this.

    It depends ultimately on your company’s culture, and their appetite for risk and your ability to present a low or no risk set of use cases that are small in size that will let them see some benefit but not terrified people.

    All right.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Ethics and Data Collection?

    Oz asks, “There’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid: should Google even have all that data? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods?”

    Two points I think are super important: minimum viable data, and behavior rather than PII. Marketers who want to save time, save money, and avoid risk need to adopt both practices. Let’s talk through what these mean and how they’d come to life.

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    In today’s episode AWS asks, there’s still the ethical questions that my marketing friends avoid.

    Should Google even have all the data it collects on consumers? How ethical is it to use that data? What about pending legislation that would hopefully criminalize lots of common data acquisition methods.

    So there’s a lot to unpack here.

    But fundamentally, the big technology companies have acquired data largely through us giving it to them, even if we’re not aware of what it is they’re doing or how they’re doing it.

    And by aggregating data, using all the different technology at their disposal, should they have it? The off the cuff remark that I made when I was asked this question on LinkedIn is that data collections a lot like sex in that if everyone is a willing and informed and competent partner and gives consent then it’s fine.

    It’s where you run into trouble when you try and hide things when you try and make your Terms of Service onerous when you try and make data removal, onerous, effectively withdrawing consent that you get into more frankly, ethical violations when you prevent somebody from willingly withdrawing consent.

    Again, just like the sex now that’s a bad thing to do.

    I hope that would be obvious to everybody but but obviously with a lot of the legislation is happening, it’s not.

    And marketers who are self aware enough to realize that cooperating and respecting consumers rights is in the long term best interests, apparently are not as common as I like to think.

    So I think there’s two ways to deal with this today, in which marketers can be more effective and mitigate risk than before.

    Actually they’re going to be some bad apples that are will ruin a lot of stuff.

    So we need to, again prepare for that in advance.

    So there’s two ways of this minimum viable data and behavior based data.

    So let’s tackle these Minimum Viable data means you do an analysis using the best technology available to you to figure out what variables actually matter to the outcome you care about whether it’s conversion, lead generation E, commerce, checkout, you’re collecting all this data.

    We all are.

    And the question is, is any of it relevant? Does having somebody whose age and weight and whatever have a mathematical relationship to the outcome that we care about? The answer is no, we stopped collecting it.

    Right? There’s no reason to collect something that if we can mathematically prove has no relationship to the outcome we care about.

    There’s no reason to collect that data.

    That data is a liability.

    That data is a lawsuit waiting to Because when and I mean this seriously when you are breached, and it will happen to every company.

    At some point in some fashion, you want the minimum viable data there.

    It should be encrypted.

    But even if it wasn’t if it was only two or three data points as opposed to every piece information on a consumer, your risk is lower.

    Right? So we want to run that analysis for minimum viable data.

    The second thing is to focus a lot more on behavior and a lot less on static information.

    A lot of marketers rely on things like demographic or firma graphic data, you know, this person is 23 years old, they’re Jewish, they’re male, they’re, they live in this place.

    And again, if no one’s actually done any analysis to prove that this data has relevance, we may just be acquiring a whole bunch of it for no reason.

    But more importantly, behavior matters a lot more than static.

    The example I use all the time is my little pony, right? If you are a marketer, and you think my little pony is something that will girls eight to 13 would collect you into focus your marketing focus your efforts.

    I gotta buy data for households that have that information.

    But if you focus on behavior look at who buys this stuff, there’s a whole segment of guys 26 to 40 who love this universe and have a way more disposable income than eight year old you would miss that you would miss the their very existence because you’d be so busy marketing what you think the market is as opposed to paying attention, paying attention to people’s data, to their behaviors to their, what they do less about who they are more about, what is it that they do? How often are they browsing a website? What are they putting in their shopping carts, etc, etc.

    So we need to pivot as an industry away from buying identities and more towards paying attention to behaviors.

    Take your website does, it doesn’t actually matter.

    If you run the analysis of your own Google Analytics doesn’t actually matter that you know, someone’s age, or gender, or even topical preferences.

    If you’ve never done the analysis, you may or may not find it relevant.

    I know on my own website, it’s a lot more important to know which pages somebody visits on the way to conversion, then necessarily who they are.

    If I can remarket and retarget.

    Instead of towards an identity, I can just remark it towards everybody who’s visited the About Me page, because I know from a mathematical assessment that that is one of the top pages people visit before they convert.

    If I can do that, I’ll get much better results than trying to market to only 35 43 year old men, I want to focus on every has been to the page because they all have the same intent.

    I don’t care who you are, if your intent is you want to hire me to speak at your event or you want to hire Trust Insights to fix your data problems.

    And this pattern of three pages that people visit is the pattern, I want to encourage you to go through that pattern, I want to change my navigation to encourage that pattern.

    I want to change my remarketing to encourage that pattern of behaviors.

    When you do stuff, particularly on properties that you own, you need to collect much less data.

    And you don’t need to collect any identifying data you just need to be able to say that person is following behavioral pattern we know leads to conversion let’s keep encouraging them.

    Doesn’t matter who it is wait for them to give information by filling out a form or whatever.

    And then respecting their privacy respecting their their data because again, Most of the time, for most of the situation, we don’t need a whole lot more than just basic contact information so that when the person fills out the form, we can get back in touch with them.

    That’s about it.

    Don’t need much else.

    I fundamentally, for a lot of the marketing that I do, I really need an email address and maybe a phone number.

    That’s it.

    Not much else has proven statistically valid in the data that I was collecting.

    So there you have it.

    There’s a lot more to unpack here because there is going to be a reckoning for marketing.

    If marketing doesn’t get its act together and figure out how to analyze the data it’s collecting, and then how to discard the data that doesn’t need any more.

    But a really good question magine they’ll be more follow up questions in the comments, but please leave it here.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Biggest Misconception about Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI?”

    Something I say in all my keynotes: AI is math, not magic. There’s no magic here. AI is just the application of mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    In turn, that means AI can’t do things that fundamentally aren’t math at their core. When we do NLP, that turns words into math. When we recognize an image, that turns pixels into math. Something fundamentally non-math, like emotions, is out of reach of AI.

    It also means AI can’t do anything not in its training data.

    AI is narrow in scope and task right now because the math of one situation can be quite different from another. Artificial general intelligence is a long way off still.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What do you think is the biggest misconception about AI? Oh, there’s so many to choose from.

    Fundamentally, and this is something that I say in all the keynote talks I give on the topic.

    At its core AI is math, not magic.

    It is just the application of advanced mathematics to data at a very large scale.

    When you decompose major algorithms and all these really cool techniques, you’re still just doing math.

    Something like for example, extreme gradient boosting, at the end of the day, boils down to some filtering, and regression.

    Statistical regression, it’s very well done.

    It is execute on data that is far beyond human capacities to do.

    But it’s still just math.

    And it’s relatively simple math at that, once you get past all the distillation pass all the the gradient descent and stuff like that.

    take away all of the mystique, and you’re left with a pile of math.

    And that makes Ai no different in many ways and other mathematical tools that were used to like calculators and spreadsheets.

    Right? If you think about AI is a spreadsheet and just a really, really fancy one.

    Then you suddenly it does take away the mystique and the the cool factor, right? Oh, it’s just like a spreadsheet.

    But then you think okay, what are the limitations of spreadsheets? They can’t do things that aren’t math.

    I guess you could In, do some limited things and some like cute illustrations and maybe a table of non math data.

    But at the end of the day, it still is a computation engine.

    And that’s what AI is, which means that AI can’t do things that are not fundamentally math at their core.

    If you take the advanced techniques that exist in AI, natural language processing, at its core, it’s it’s still math, you take words, assign numbers to them, and then do math on the numbers.

    And that’s what natural language processing is.

    It’s one of the reasons why, even though some of the models out there like GPT-2, or distill or Excel net, or all these things are so cool, and can autocomplete paragraphs or even documents.

    There’s still just doing math, they’re still doing probability.

    And it’s one of the reasons why if you were to type in, you know, two plus two equals the words into all these things, they’re going to predict An outcome that shows they don’t have any actual understanding of the words.

    They’re just doing math on probability.

    And so you end up with some pretty lame examples of, of how these things can’t reason they can’t understand truly.

    The math is just doing forecasting and prediction, statistical probability.

    If I write the words, you know, what do you believe about, it’s going to come up with probabilities about what the next word in that sentence is going to be for the next sentence.

    When you do image recognition, it’s trending pixels in a math and tactically pixel already math.

    There’s, if you look at a sensor on a camera, a digital camera, there are three color sensors on each pixel.

    And they’re either lit up or they’re not lit up.

    And again, it’s mathematics.

    And so when you’re recognizing an image or looking for a face in a video or brand new Go still just mathematics.

    Even the most advanced image recognition algorithms functionally are like, distillers.

    I explained this in one of my keynotes as well, if you were to take all that image data and boil down to a pattern that the machine can recognize, in many ways, it’s no different than taking a bunch of, you know, grain mash and stuff like that or beer and distilling it over and over again until you get whiskey.

    Right.

    That’s what deep learning is.

    It’s distillation of data.

    It’s not anything magical.

    All this means that something that is fundamentally non mathematical in nature, like emotion or reasoning, or even logic, human logic machine logic is fundamentally out of reach of today’s AI machine cannot understand How you feel it can make probabilistic guesses about the words that you use to describe your emotions, but it cannot feel it cannot understand.

    And therefore it can’t do things like empathy.

    Because it’s simply a non mathematical thing, at least with today’s technology.

    Now, that may change in the years ahead when we do have access to vastly larger amounts of computing with stuff like quantum computing, but this is still years off.

    From today, as I record this, when we understand that AI is nothing more than a spreadsheet, it also means we understand that AI can’t do anything not in its training data, right? If you don’t put it in the data to for the AI to learn from, it can’t create it, it can’t create something from nothing.

    Now, if you have some of these really large models like the GPT tos of the world, they’ve trained on a tremendous amount of text and so much more than a single human could ever learn in their lifetime.

    And that’s where Uc AI seemingly creating things they create, because they have a much larger knowledge base to draw from.

    But they’re not creating anything new.

    They can’t create something that is never been seen before.

    All of AI is currently what’s called narrow, narrow and applications focused on a specific task.

    Because creating a general purpose AI, or artificial general intelligence.

    There’s no model for life.

    Not today.

    There may be at some point, but if you think about back to the math example, if you’ve got a spreadsheets all decked out to do accounting, and you try and get that spreadsheet without making substantial adaptations to do calorie counting, even though they’re both math, they’re very different tasks, and they use very different formulas underneath.

    And so you can see how, how difficult it would be to make a spreadsheet that could easily do calorie counting and five ads and virus prediction and ROI of marketing, it will be so difficult to come up with a model that was universal though.

    We don’t have that capability in machines.

    We have it as humans, because our brains are massive parallel computers.

    But machines can’t do that.

    So, when we talk about misconceptions people have about AI.

    It is fundamentally that it is not a system of magic.

    It can’t create something that doesn’t exist.

    And it can’t do things it wasn’t trained to do for the most part outside of a specific domain.

    It’s math, not magic.

    Good question.

    We could go on for quite some time about this topic.

    So let’s leave it at that.

    If you have follow up questions about it or you have misconceptions of your own, or think you believe that are your own and that you would like some clarification on leave in the comments here.

    Be happy to do follow up questions on this topic about more specifics.

    misconceptions and AI.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Excites You About Marketing AI?

    Paul asks, “What excites you most about AI?”

    In the context of marketing and data science, AI allows us to scale our inquiries to our data. We have overwhelming amounts of data, and most of it goes unused. Think about all the data just in Google Analytics. How much of it do you actually use? How much could you use, if you could take every data point into account? AI enables that.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks what excites you most about AI? In the context of marketing, and data science, artificial intelligence allows us to scale our inquiries to our data.

    And I think that’s a really important way to approach this.

    We have as marketers, as people, we have so much data, we have overwhelming amounts of data.

    And we’re not using it.

    Right.

    Take a real simple example look at Google Analytics.

    How many dimensions and metrics are in Google Analytics? Do you even know? If you actually go to the Google Analytics dimensions and metrics explore online, you will see literally, dozens if not hundreds of dimensions and metrics.

    Page time, bounce rate, exit rate, page title source, medium campaign content, keyword, you name it.

    There’s so many data points in Google Analytics.

    When you think about how you use that application, what do you look at, you look at maybe one or two metrics that you care about, like conversions or traffic.

    And you might, on a good day, dig one layer down and look at like your source medium your channel groupings and or your assisted conversions.

    But there’s so much and there’s so much in there, and we don’t use it.

    And we don’t know if that information is valuable.

    We don’t know if it’s not valuable because we never use it.

    It’s like having a frying pan or another kitchen utensil that you never use.

    You don’t really know if you’re missing anything, because it just sits in the drawer all the time.

    But what if you are, what if there’s an opportunity to use that to cook something really cool, right? same was true for analytics software.

    There’s so many data points and so many features in these things that just go on used and And we don’t know what we’re missing.

    Right? Again, it could be valuable could not be.

    So the question is, how do we use more of that data? If you were to extract every single piece of data out of Google Analytics and put in a spreadsheet be a really, really, really large spreadsheet with hundreds of columns? And the question is, would that be valuable? We don’t know.

    You don’t know? I don’t know.

    But using data science, and machine learning and artificial intelligence, could help us start to know one of the ways that I recommend In fact, in one of my new talks, the data science one on one for marketers Talk, talk about taking all the data that you have, putting in that giant spreadsheet using data science tools, like Python, or R, and then running algorithms, machine learning algorithms against that data, mostly regression analysis to figure out does any of this data Matter and are there hidden interactions in it that we’re not seeing that could have meaning.

    So the way you would do that is in that massive spreadsheet, one of the columns in that spreadsheet would be conversions, right? Something we all care a whole lot about whether it’s ecommerce and we made the sale or whether it’s b2b and they filled out the form for a demo request or whatever.

    That’s your target your response variable then you have everything else number press releases sent that day number of tweets you sent out that day, the sentiment of responses you got a pic any marketing metric page views time on site, put it all in that sheet, and then you run your regression analysis against your target response variable and say, Hey, machine, tell me what combination of variables has a mathematical relationship a correlation to the response variable I know, may or may not find something and if it does, It may it may seem like number organic searches to these pages, or number of tweets with a poop emoji or something like that, or number of emails, you sent her an email, click through rate that day, whatever the combination of variables is, that’s what you get, you can then go test, you can try to prove causality, you’ve got correlation.

    Now you prove or disprove causality.

    And that’s the kind of thing that AI can help us do can scale up to deal with the size of the data because we can’t do it.

    I mean, you could do it if you want to spend the next month of your life just doing the math behind this.

    But AI and machine learning allows us to tap into that and get to that data much, much sooner, and with a lot less pain.

    And so that, to me is exciting about AI within the context of marketing, our ability to classify data sets to predict data sets to turn data into usable information that we can then deploy for our remarketing.

    One of the things that I, I find most objectionable about marketing analytics today is that we do all this analysis, we’re really hard, really hard.

    And then we don’t do anything with it.

    We make this discovery these, these flashes of insight, and then we put them back on the shelf in a binder.

    And we do nothing with it.

    We don’t change our marketing, and therefore our results don’t change.

    And eventually, either we get fed up and move on or the company implodes.

    And we go out of business, right.

    If you took the insight and you used it, you deployed it.

    What would that do for your business? I remember a customer number years ago, we put together a predictive calendar about when these when certain topics in their industry were going to peak based on search volume, reliable data, and they didn’t use it.

    He didn’t use they put it on the shelf.

    And then six months later, they Like, yeah, you know, we’re we’re going to have to terminate the relationship and we’re just not seeing the results like, Well, of course, you’re not seeing the results, you didn’t do anything on it, you literally had us run a forecast of the future and you did nothing with it except let it gather dust.

    And so that’s our biggest problem with marketing analytics.

    It is just not using the data.

    So if AI can help us get to those insights faster to compress the time it takes to get to them, we might stand a chance of using them more and if we use them more will might get better results.

    Certainly as we approach uncertain economic times, and people are asking, you know, how can we get more for less? How can we work smarter, not harder, right? Work smarter means use AI.

    You means use machine learning, it means use the data that you have, get the machines to get answers to you faster, as fast as possible.

    They can do way better than we can.

    And then use those answers use more of those answers than we have been doing.

    So that’s what excites me about a high end marketing is we might stand a chance of improving our marketing in ways that we otherwise could not.

    So really good question, fun question, challenging question.

    If you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI, Data Science, and What To Study in College?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI, Data Science, and What To Study in College?

    Paul asks, “If you were entering college, knowing what you know now, what would you study?”

    Mathematics, statistics, comp sci, anthropology fieldwork, and psychology. Definitely not what I studied, except for anthropology. If you think about what data science and AI encompasses, I’d want skills in each of the four major areas.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, If you were entering college, knowing what you know now, what would you study? Well, I mean, if I knew what I knew now or wouldn’t need to study anything, but I wouldn’t need to stay things I already know.

    Let’s put it that way.

    Now this is an interesting question because I think the way college is structured, it would actually be detrimental to the way I personally learned now I won’t say it and have one sample of one.

    Everybody is different.

    Everybody has a different learning style.

    My learning style is much more I guess the trend determine education will be unschooling where you pursue a line of inquiry and you pick up the skills along those lines of inquiry as you’re going down whatever investigation you’re going towards, with the understanding that you’re going to have gaps in your knowledge because you didn’t have the formal frameworks for whatever those things work.

    When I think About what AI and data science folks need, in terms of skills, it comes down to those big four areas that we’ve been talking about a lot for a couple years now.

    You need those business skills and the domain expertise in whatever it is that you’re you’re working in.

    You need technical skills, coding and such data engineering, you need mathematical skills, which are, you know, statistics, probability linear algebra, and you need scientific skills, the ability to understand and execute the scientific method.

    And you need all four in relatively equal balance.

    And that’s one of the reasons why I say this idea of, you know, what the college major where this is your single area of study can be a bit misleading in terms of where it takes your education because it’s not it at least an AI and data science you you need to be equally strong and four different areas.

    And so instead of one area of focus, you might have called them Mini major in each, you might have a mini meet major in probability or have a mini major in psychology, or anthropology, a mini major in programming or databases and a mini major in some other hard science, although psychology is actually a good a good fit there.

    And that those four disciplines, what you’re looking to get are the frameworks it Well, what I would be looking to get, I think it’s really important to clarify that that’s how I learned.

    I don’t learn, like the standard educational system teaches it was actually not a great student.

    Because the education system said, We want you to follow this very linear path from A to Z.

    And don’t skip steps along the way and don’t get diverted.

    And if you’ve ever had a conversation with me for more than 10 minutes, you will as we go down rat holes and rabbit holes all the time.

    My brain works differently.

    For some other folks, they might need that linear But data science and AI are such that they are such broad disciplines.

    And they require so many different prerequisite skills, that you would still need a sampling of each of those.

    Now it’s possible to create that but you’re probably going to end up leaning towards one of those four areas more heavily.

    I think the mathematics and statistics are important.

    The computer science is important.

    Psychology is important and anthropology is important.

    And the psychology and anthropology are for two very important reasons one, learned scientific method, but to when you look at how we collect data, and we use it for artificial intelligence and machine learning, and we look at the people who are doing and how they’re doing it.

    They’re not always using the best practices, particularly if your AI team has a bias towards the coding side.

    They have not learned sample sizes they have not learned statistical relevance and peace and Peace Corps and peace.

    hacking.

    Unfortunately, they have not learned margins of error and all these things if they come from a pure coding background, and they need to learn them, and you do learn them over time, but it’s not the same as having frameworks and stuff up in advance.

    Now, the other thing that I would change in my own education is, I think in terms of frameworks and structures.

    So for those of you who have been on the Trust Insights website over TrustInsights.ai dot AI, you’ll see this thing called Instant insights in the resources section.

    And it’s a whole bunch of one pages of essentially like PowerPoint slides of frameworks that I use a lot.

    And some of them are classic textbook frameworks like SWOT analysis, and others are ones that I’ve come up with in my own work.

    And the reason I like those is that it gives me sort of a quick reference Handbook of a particular set of processes and the steps I need to take in order to do the process.

    Well repeatedly.

    And there are so many of these frameworks in anthropology and psychology and Computer Science and Mathematics and Statistics.

    And the way I was taught was I was taught more wrote in the sense of just memorization of facts and things without those containers, those frameworks for me to organize my knowledge in and so it took me a really long time to really learn some of these disciplines, I failed statistics in college I did, I got a final exam, I scored a 37 out of 100 because I had a teacher who was a brilliant researcher, avid publisher, prolific publisher.

    And so he did great things for the university getting published papers and stuff, couldn’t teach to save his life, couldn’t talk, couldn’t step down his teaching anywhere close to where a beginner would need to be.

    And so I didn’t learn statistics until much later in life when I rethought it to myself using frameworks that I googled for and stuff and read some textbooks to fill in the blanks.

    Were My education had totally failed me.

    And so part of that college education, knowing what I know, now, it would be going back and filling in those frameworks, I would take, you know, 102 hundred level courses and each of these four areas, I wouldn’t necessarily need to go beyond the 200 level.

    But I would want to gather as many frameworks as possible, so that I had them as references and I know I could This is when you use Porter’s five forces, this is when you SWAT This is when you use pest.

    This is when you use p scores to measure error rates where RMSE is or r squared, or or our rock.

    And so there’s all these different rules and codes and frames of reference that I needed to be able to do my work well, again, I’m a sample of one.

    There are so many different ways to learn that.

    I would encourage anybody entering college right now to first and foremost, figure out how you learn before you do anything else Before you take a single course, spend some time self reflecting on how do you learn best? What are the methods and techniques that that you’re able to acquire information? Well? Is it linear? Is it nonlinear? Is it a line of inquiry? Is it you know, someone just giving you the information is it frameworks as a notes? Even something as simple as how you take notes is different for everybody, I think in mind maps, you know, the ability to drag different pieces around and see interconnected branches.

    Other people look at that like that.

    No, they need that linear bulleted list, or they need prose, or they need to hear it or they need to see it.

    So more than anything, if you are entering college or you’re in college, figure out how you learn.

    And then tailor your learning as best as you can to how your brain works.

    find mentors or even just find people on YouTube who are subject matter experts in the disciplines you’re studying.

    And if you You find one that you understand you listen to the person you’re like, Ah, this person can explain it to me.

    stick to it like glue, right? Grab onto that and hold on to it tight because that’s what’s going to help you be successful is an understanding how you learn something I wish colleges would teach more.

    So really good question very, very self awareness focused.

    Not a whole lot of technology and it but that’s what I would do if I was entering college now as what I would encourage anybody no matter where they are in their career to do right now.

    Figure out how you learn.

    How you learn best find people.

    To follow that you can learn from that you do learn from, stick to them, like glue and acquire as much knowledge as you can from them.

    worry less about the formal categories of learning and worry more about how you can accelerate your learning for yourself.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Ethical Use of AI in Marketing?

    Paul asks, “What can marketers do to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing?”

    Ethics isn’t something machines understand. They’re still fundamentally calculators at their core, no matter how sophisticated the AI, and a calculator is nonmoral, non-ethical. They’re tools, so the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools. If your company behaves unethically with data and systems now, it will do so with AI, and the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI entirely, or avoid working there.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, What can market is due to ensure the ethical use of AI in their marketing? That’s a big question.

    We should probably start by defining what we mean by ethics, because ethics itself is a massive field of philosophy, and has so many branches and so many interpretations.

    The interpretation that I fall back on most is what you would call either consequentialism or utilitarian ethics.

    And what those are, is fundamentally consequentialism is trying to do things that result in the fewest negative consequences for you and the largest number of positive consequences for you.

    utilitarianism is sort of the idea that you tried to do the maximum amount of good points Or the maximum amount of benefit for others, the health of others, the happiness of others, the welfare of others, sort of a, you know, to, quote the incredibly cliche business term, a win win situation, how can you make decisions that maximize the benefit to the maximum number of people.

    And that’s relevant to AI because when we think about how we do marketing, very often we are trying to maximize the benefit of one party, only our company, right? We want to keep our jobs we want to get a bonus, we will not hit our numbers.

    And so we make decisions that are a little short sighted we make decisions that are for the benefit of our company.

    And we don’t take the larger view of how can we benefit everyone that how can we benefit everyone perspective is actually what we would call customer centric marketing, right? How can we create benefit for our customers with the assumption that if we do good for others, Good has returned to us in the form of profits and revenues and such.

    So let’s start with that definition.

    So how can we ensure that AI is being used in a way that maximizes good? ethics and morals and nothing’s machines understand machines have no ethics, they have no morals, they are non moral devices, right? Fundamentally, an AI is still a calculator at its core, right? It’s still just doing mathematics.

    No matter how sophisticated no matter how fancy no matter how complex it is, it’s still a calculator.

    And a calculator is a tool.

    A tool has no ethics, a tool has no morals.

    It’s not that it’s immoral that it is inherently bad.

    It’s just a tool if it if it sits there on the ground.

    With no user, it does nothing right.

    You could even say the same thing for things that we typically ascribe to negatives or positive It is write a firearm.

    You know, some people will ascribe virtues and vices to a gun.

    No, it’s on the ground.

    It does nothing, right? The user is the person who behaves with ethics, we’re using that tool and AI is the same.

    Because the tool the burden of ethics is on the users of the tools.

    Which means that if we the users are unethical or immoral or self centered, then we’re going to use those tools to do things that are unethical.

    So the simplest way to answer Paul’s question is, if your company, if you if your manager behave unethically today, with the data and the systems and the software that you have now, you’re going to do it with AI, right, you’re going to take another tool and you In the same way that use your existing tools, if you have a, you know a kid, and and your kid hits their sibling with a stuffed animal and you give the kid a book, they’re probably going to hit the the sibling of the book, right? That pattern of behavior who we are as humans, governance, what’s likely to happen with any given tool? So, how do you ensure the ethical use of AI and marketing and you should ensure the ethical use of your marketing? And if you want to avoid sticky situations that border on spirituality and religion, just go with utilitarian ethics? Are we doing the most good? possible? Are we doing the least harm possible? are we are we making the world a better or worse place? And to the extent that you can give more value than you get? You will probably do okay, so if you’re thinking like, how can I Use targeting and segmentation, you know, deep learning networks to identify customers.

    Well, that’s a method that’s a tactic.

    And it’s neither good or bad.

    But if your product sucks, and your services terrible, and your customers hate, but and they have no other choice, then don’t worry about a I fix your core problems.

    If you have a manager, a corporate culture, stakeholders that behave on ethically, the most ethical thing you can do is steer that company away from AI.

    You know, if you have a person who is, is violent, don’t give them bigger weapons, and take their weapons away from them and give them like, I don’t know, soft foam blocks to play with.

    So when you have a company that already behaves on ethically don’t pursue AI even if you want to personally for your own career growth and and things, do that on your free time do that outside of work.

    But don’t give more dangerous things to people who are already dangerous.

    And consider not working there.

    If you are the kind of person who wants to grow your career and you want to, to also do good in the world, and you’re working for a company that doesn’t do good in the world.

    It might be time for a change, it might be time to give some thought to where else could you apply your talents where they would be appreciated, you would be compensated appropriately because again, part of utilitarianism is doing good for yourself too.

    It’s just doing good for yourself and everyone else.

    And find a place a company that can behave more ethically that can can do more good for the world can invoke fewer negative consequences for its actions.

    But I can’t reiterate enough at the end of the day.

    AI is just math, right and we can use mathematics for good For evil, we can do good things, you can do horrific things to other humans.

    So make sure that the core of the heart and the soul of your company is in good shape before you start introducing advanced technologies.

    That’s a big question.

    We see ethical lapses or just companies that are unethical.

    Facebook comes to mind is was one of the biggest examples of a company where ethics are secondary to that sort of self centered utilitarianism.

    And we could talk for hours about the newsfeed algorithm but for now, focus on the ethics of your company, determine whether it is appropriate for the company to be pursuing AI to be using tools that can scale good or bad and then make a decision you know, should we pursue this or should we not based on the ethics of the company overall.

    Good question.

    Tough question.

    Big, big question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    You Ask, I Answer: Learning Marketing Data Science for Free?

    Shawn asks, “How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money?”

    Learning marketing data science without spending a lot of money is very straightforward: download the free, open-source tools you need, and find one of the many, many courses available to teach you data science basics. I recommend IBM’s CognitiveClass.ai course site.

    Once you’ve learned the course materials, then go and practice. Sign up for free on a site like Kaggle.com and participate in the many different competitions and challenges there. After you’ve got the hang of solving more complex problems, go do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

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    In today’s episode, Shawn asks, How can I develop data science skills without spending lots of money? fair question.

    You don’t have to spend any money to learn data science and be able to do it well today, because of all the massive skills shortages and talent shortages.

    There are companies that are just giving away resources for you to become a data scientist because frankly, we need a pipeline of talent that just isn’t there.

    So how do you get started, it’s a four step process.

    It’s download what you need, take some courses, go practice and then do an internship.

    So let’s, let’s walk through these.

    I’m going to go at this from the perspective using the our programming language for data science.

    You can also take the Python route Either is fine.

    You’re going to learn to code and build stuff in one of these two programming.

    First place you want to go is to get tools.

    If you have a relatively modern computer, download the open source free our programming language, and then the our Studio IDE, which you can find at our studio.

    com, that would be the first place I would go.

    You can also if you want to have access to a bigger suite of tools, use the free to try IBM Watson Studio, either one will be great.

    I would suggest for beginners.

    Start with our studio and if you have a computer that is not say the, you know, a modern computer, if it’s more than a couple of years old, I would go and again sign up for IBM Watson Studio.

    You can get a free account there and like 50 hours a month of compute time, and you can also go to our studio cloud and get a free our studio Cloud account which allows you to run our studio Justin a Weber browser and all the computation is handled remotely on somebody else’s servers.

    So those would be the tools that you would need to get started, I would strongly recommend installing what’s called the tidy verse, ti de why tidy verse inside of our studio.

    And when you install our studio and are you will be able to, to install a lot of these things from the graphical user interface.

    It’s not you don’t have to write a whole bunch of programming code just to get up and running.

    Next, start learning just the basics of how to use our and there’s a couple of different places that you can go education, our studio.

    com has a ton of resources including some tutorials and things that I think are important.

    There’s some really good books here like our for data science, which is available for free online not to spend any money As long as you don’t mind reading off the screen.

    And then once you’ve gotten the basics of the our environment down I would go over to IBM’s cognitive class.ai cognitive class.ai is a portal for tons of free classes free courses and certifications little badges that you get from IBM, again totally for free, completely for free.

    And the one I would look at would be will be looking at two.

    One is data science foundations and then applied data science with our and then applied data science with our you’ll see our one on one with databases, data visualization and you get a badge at the end of it.

    Data Science foundations is more conceptual, it is a lot more on what is data science, the tools, the methodology, I would do this as well.

    Start with foundations then go to apply data science with our and as you saw in the course catalog here.

    There are ones for Python as well.

    So those would be step two, take some courses, take these courses, you can see you know, they’re going to require probably anywhere from 10 to 15 hours of your time to go through these courses and to take the classes and stuff like that, that will get you tools and knowledge.

    The next step after you have tools and knowledge is to start to apply the knowledge because again, all this theory and all these, this example code is good, you need it.

    But it’s not enough, I need to go and do some practical application of the place I would suggest for this is go to Kaggle.

    com sign up for a free account there.

    And what you will see are, once you get in, is looking at this exercises.

    There are all sorts of discussions but most importantly, they’re these competitions.

    These competitions are open.

    And what allows you to do is go through and pick some challenge here.

    And you can join a team if you want to just tackle it on your own, but look at the major challenges that are available, particularly at your skill level, when you first sign up, it’ll be beginner.

    And it will give you some suggestions of exercises to try to apply your knowledge.

    Try out your skills and see how do you how do you do, how well do you do with the challenge, and you can obviously see other people’s discussions, see shared examples of code.

    A lot of folks in the Kaggle environment fair warning are very Python oriented.

    So if you are looking for some RSF help to find that sub community within here in order to to find folks who can answer questions about your code, specifically, also essential sign up for a free account over at stack overflow.com.

    Because you’re going to be copying and pasting other people’s examples and ideas, and then tuning them and tweaking them and eventually, you know, making your own versions of this code for a long time.

    So that’s step three, taking your knowledge and applying it to real world examples because that’s what’s on Kaggle is a lot of real world data sets.

    You can see there’s tons of money competitions on here, you know Santa’s workshop NFL big dateable.

    So you can find something that’s fun to work on and challenging at you whatever skill level you come into it at.

    Step four, is do an internship or project with any company and see what problems you can solve.

    Easiest way to do it would be an unpaid internship companies are generally happy to have free labor.

    with the understanding that, you know, you’re gonna be working on something that’s probably not a top priority for them.

    I would especially look at something like a nonprofit, and be able to use some of the techniques that you’ve learned in these courses to solve a challenge for them.

    Real good example for a nonprofit would be doing something like regression or classification, what makes it good donor or what increases donations and see if you can apply all the knowledge you’ve gained to help a company, build some tests and see if they can generate a useful outcome.

    I think you can do obviously, if you want to go to the practical application, I was start a side hustle, right? Start a, a boutique consultancy.

    And again, try and find a couple of companies that want to help.

    You’ll be doing some free work up front, because you’ve got to get case studies.

    You’ve got to get examples, you know what you’re doing.

    The certifications are important and useful, but they’re not enough by themselves.

    You got to have a portfolio of usable stuff that shows that you you’re competent, so do some projects.

    And then who knows, maybe your side hustle becomes your main hustle down the road that certainly was the path that I took.

    So that’s the answer to how do you develop data science skills without spending lots of money, free tools, because almost everything is happening in data science and machine learning and AI is happening at the open source level first, and then companies will commercialize what works so free tools free course.

    is free challenges and then you’ll be giving away free work in the beginning with those internships or projects just to get your feet wet in in practical application expect this to take depending on how much time you willing to commit to it expected to take anywhere from six months to you know five years if you if you go all in and you sit you you put your Netflix subscription on pause and stuff and you’re you’re working two or three hours a night you can become proficient in data science in six months pretty easily.

    If you like Netflix and having friends and stuff like that, then expect it’s gonna take you know a couple of years if you spend like an hour a week, for example.

    It will take a lot longer but you will get there one way or the other.

    And again, all these tools are free.

    So don’t spend money invest your time that is the part that will that will cost you invest your time.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

    So scribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon take care want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems? This is Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you


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