Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Bots and the Future of Customer Experience?

    You Ask, I Answer: Bots and the Future of Customer Experience?

    Bernie asks, “Do you see chatbots being effective in building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020?”

    Bots are a tactic, a tool. The question is, how effective are they at enhancing the overall customer experience? Right now, they’re a form of automation and as such are best suited for repetitive, predictable tasks. What in your customer journey is incredibly repetitive on the part of the customer?

    • Getting basic information
    • Asking for help
    • Finding resources on your website
    • Greeting and proactively introducing known resources

    What are bots NOT good at?

    • Handling anomalies and exceptions
    • Rich natural language queries and conversations
    • Dealing with unhappy customers

    The perception is that bots are simply a money-saving, job-cutting step for many companies to take to avoid spending money on customer experience. However you choose to deploy them or any other tactic, know that you want to avoid playing into this perception at all costs if you measure by things like NPS score.

    That said, over the next year, expect natural language processing to continue improving, pretrained AI models to continue growing in complexity, and chatbot software to continually be easier for brands to deploy.

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    In today’s episode Bernie asks, do you see Chatbots being effective and building and growing the relationships between the brand and audience in 2020? So Chatbots are a tool right there a tactic? The question really is, the question should be, how effective is a chat bot at enhancing the overall customer experience? Remember that a chat bot is really nothing more than piece of software, right that piece of software that interacts with customers at a certain point in the customer experience.

    Most of the time, they are used in two places they’re used in upper funnel introductions and end of journey customer support customer relationship management, their form of automation and as such, because they are an automation they are best suited for high repetitive, highly predictable tasks.

    So the real question is, what does your customer experience look like? What does your customer journey look like? What steps in that customer journey are highly repetitive on the part of the customer not on our part.

    Again, with all customer experience technologies, we want to make sure that we are looking at things from the perspective of the customer and improving things from their perspective, not from ours.

    The perception for good or ill is that Chatbots are a money saving job cutting technology that companies used to avoid spending money on customer service and avoid spending money on customer experience and reduce headcount.

    There is some truth to that, right? however you choose to deploy Chatbots or any customer experience technology.

    You want to avoid playing into that perception, right? You want to use the tools for what they’re best at.

    Not use them to cut costs, you want to use them to enhance the customer experience not take away from it.

    So what are What are Chatbots? Good for? Right? What’s repetitive getting basic information? Right? What are your hours? That’s that’s a question that is well suited for a bot.

    Basic asking for help.

    So a bot that can say it like, if you’re here for help, how can we help? Do you want someone to call you to ask someone to email you do want to do a live chat, whatever the case is, you can use the box to reach out and ask people how they want to be helped.

    Probably not tried to, you know, build a massive botnet to help on behalf of the customer.

    Unless you know that there is just there’s one thing that everybody needs help with.

    You probably should fix that thing first.

    Third is finding Resources bots are really good at helping somebody navigate especially if you got a large website, you have a large support catalog if you have a like, say you’re a consumer products company, and there’s, you know, 500 frequently asked questions and manual pages and stuff on your website, a bot is really good at helping somebody skip the navigation, as long as the natural language processing was good and say like, I need help with the manual for these new headphones, you know, the Model X 722 had headphones, and the bot should if it’s well programmed to be able to find that content for the customer, and get it to them and forth of courses that bots are really good at greeting and proactively introducing known resources.

    So as part of that introductory phase when the customer first comes to the website, the bot to be able to say Hey, welcome.

    Here’s some things that people commonly look for.

    What can I help you with that way? realize this bot is here to help the customer experience to help them get to their answers faster.

    That’s really what they’re good at is get people to an answer faster.

    What are they bad at? Well, bots are really bad at handling anomalies and exceptions, right? When somebody writes in says, Hey, I got the new Xm 22 headphones and they caught on fire.

    That is an exception.

    I hope it’s an exception.

    That’s something that again should not be something that the software should we try and handle that’s something that ideally if there if a bot is well constructed to has anomaly, an exception detection and set and immediately routes to a human to help out bots today, even with really good models are still not great at natural language queries and conversations, right? There’s still a tremendous amount of training that has to happen now it’s getting much, much better two years ago, I would have said they were terrible natural language processing period, but they are Much, much better than it used to be, they’re still not as good as a person.

    And most of all, bots are really bad handling unhappy customers, right? If someone is angry or upset or frustrated, you want to get them to a human as quickly as possible.

    You do not want to try to get them to avoid talking to a human.

    Because that’s not why that person is there.

    One of the things that companies need to think about is that sometimes in some cases depending on how frustrating your product is, your human support almost has to have some like basic therapist training to help to help a person get out of an unhappy emotional state first before solving their problem.

    That is not something about can do, period.

    Now looking forward in 2020, what do we expect to happen? The last two years have been absolutely exceptional in what has happened to Natural Language Processing and our ability for machines to understand language.

    You’ve heard big news this year about Google’s BERT models, and open a eyes GPT to technology and many, many, many other pre trained models.

    Those are continuing to grow and complexity.

    Those are continuing to process data and language really well.

    And I expect that to be the case in 2020 as well.

    Making use of those pre trained models is getting better.

    The ability for people to simply download a massive pre trained model, tune it up a little bit for their use case and then deploy it has gotten substantially easier in the last year or so.

    And again, I expect that to continue and that that the impact of that is that you will be able to hit the ground running with a chat bot or any AI task that uses language much faster.

    Download the model, spend maybe a couple of days tuning it and immediately roll it out in production.

    Chatbots software continues to improve as well, it continues to get easier for people to deploy two years ago, you were rolling up your sleeves and coding.

    Right? That was just how you got a chat bot running.

    And one of the reasons why initial people who tried it out were like, Man, this is not for us because it’s a lot of work to support.

    Many services are getting much easier to use, drag and drop, or very, very simple code.

    I was sitting down with one of my kids over this past weekend, and we built a first our first bought in discord and it was very straightforward and you know, some basic Python to get it connected and stuff, super, super easy.

    Download template and just modify it.

    So bots are getting much easier for brands to deploy as well.

    So those are what we have to look forward to for the future of customer experience the future Chatbots in 2020, there are any number of things that could change that we can Can’t see right now.

    We may have a revolution in compute power.

    For example, if that happens, it could be a massive game changer.

    So some things to look forward to no matter what.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Scaling Content Curation?

    You Ask, I Answer: Scaling Content Curation?

    Jen asks, “How do you curate content for your social media channels?”

    I have a list of trusted sources, about 150 of them, that I bring into a SQL database. I run several scripts to vacuum up the article text, index it, and then run natural language processing to identify the contents. After that, I have a pre-defined list of topics that I care about and score each article. I have a third script which scans the table for a certain number of articles, by score, and exports the data into a format for bulk scheduling. Watch the video for a tour.

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    In today’s episode, Jen asks, How do you curate content for your social media channels? That’s a complicated question to answer.

    A few years ago, I was curating content, you know, reading through Feedly, and blogs and stuff like that.

    And notice I kept doing the same thing over and over again, which took a really long time, a couple hours a week.

    And I said, this is silly.

    This is something that can clearly be automated.

    One of the benchmarks for automation is if you do the same thing over and over and over again, and you do it more than twice, it’s time to start thinking about automating it when you are doing the same thing.

    Every single day.

    It is definitely time to start automating.

    So the process for automating this thing is relatively straightforward.

    It just as a lot of custom code.

    Now there are paid services that do this kind of automation and they are all reassuringly expensive.

    The reason I don’t use paid services is twofold.

    One, I’m cheap.

    And two.

    More importantly, I don’t like the black box algorithm of how the services finding recommend content.

    I don’t know what goes into the box.

    And therefore I don’t know how it makes its decision.

    Then when you ask vendors, they say it’s a proprietary algorithm.

    I get that.

    But I still want to know how it works.

    So I ended up rolling my own.

    What I did and how you can start thinking about doing this for yourself.

    If you have the requisite technology skills is first you need a source of articles of content.

    So what I’m going to show is bring this up here on screen.

    This is the ahrefs SEO tool, one of my favorites.

    Type in the topic of your choice, and you’ll see of course, a large collection of articles on your topics.

    What you want to do is not focus on the articles but focus on the sources.

    Also, if you already subscribe to some great blogs and like Feedly, or whatever service you use, export that list of blogs, you will need then a scraper to go out and read and retrieve those pieces of content and put them in some sort of storage mechanism.

    I use a sequel database, which you can see here that pulls in each article, and then by URL from those RSS feeds.

    Now, the important thing here is that I don’t want just the article title.

    And I don’t want just the URL, I want the full article itself.

    So one of the things that the software I wrote does is vacuums up the actual content of the article itself.

    And you can see here on screen that a number of these that have the full text coming in.

    That’s important because the next step in this process is to figure out is this an article that I would want to share is a topic irrelevant.

    So there’s a stage there’s another piece of software on this database server that goes through and identifies This is something that I care about it also pulls in social shares, SEO, data from RF things like that.

    In this case, we can see, there are a number of articles that are about data.

    There’s one here about analytics and things and you can just spot check very quickly just by looking at the titles like is this a relevant article? Here’s what a data driven planning for city resilience, quantifying sea level rise.

    Okay, that sounds like something that I would share.

    There are also flags in here for things that I don’t want.

    See, where’s that column there’s a there’s one called blacklist and that is essentially if I sort this column here Oh, I delete anything that’s below certain point.

    articles about politics, especially certain politicians don’t want them don’t want to share them so they automatically get blacklist just knocked out.

    never see the light of day.

    The next step after that is to design them with social sharing links.

    I have my own link shortener because I got tired Getting ads from the service I was using to hand over a lot of money a month for him.

    So have a link shortener connected there.

    And all this database processing happens on the database itself, and that prepares essentially 15 20,000 articles a month for processing.

    And this this script runs this system here runs every 15 minutes or so.

    So it’s not like once a month, because it does take time for the software to go out and do all this processing and scoring.

    At the end, what you end up with is a scoring system, right? So at the at the very end, there is this resource here.

    You can see these are the highest ranked articles based on those topics, not containing things they don’t want.

    What is social media management, Instagram revenue and use the statistics right 41 best data science programs, these are all things that are perfectly on target for the kind of stuff I share.

    So now the last step is to use a another piece of software.

    But I wrote that goes in and takes all these articles blends in a series of social shares of things that essentially are ads, right? things that I want to promote like my newsletter, like the Trust Insights, newsletter, whatever oddities I want to promote and mixes them and do so there’s from a content curation perspective is 25 ads, there are 50 articles, so you know about two to one ratio there.

    And then there’s a thank you section as well, where I’m pulling in additional 25 articles that are all things that other people have written about TrustInsights.ai I want to make sure that we’re sharing the love thanking people for covering the company, right, that’s an important thing to do.

    This will so together A at the end of the process, one single CSV file and it looks kind of like this.

    This then goes into a Gora Pulse buffer, Sprout Social whatever system you want to use to share your content.

    This is all pre built out and this is fresh content one of the restrictors on the system is it has to be only contents and shared in the last seven days.

    And what the summary is is like cleaning loading the different social shares topic scans link shortening content scan at the end of this process as a right now there are 321 articles that I could be sharing with you that are published within the last seven days that are topically relevant out of the 5000 so each week that are raw inputs.

    Now this system is very technology heavy and you can see the user interface kind of sucks.

    Actually, no it it does suck if you if you’re used to having a really nice polished interface.

    This is this is not something that that is going to do any good which is one of the reasons why it’s Not for sale, right? It’s it is not a product that you could just buy off the shelf and run on your own servers.

    Trust Insights does offer it as a service.

    If you want our help to get a file, we have a couple of paying clients who get weekly files from us.

    But for those folks, you know, we work with them to tune their topics and tune their stuff so that they have input into the algorithm, but ultimately, they’re not maintaining the algorithm or the infrastructure.

    Like I said, the reasons I do this twofold.

    One is to I know how the articles getting chosen.

    And when something comes up that I like, I don’t like that kind of article.

    I don’t want that kind of content in my social shares.

    I can go in under into the system itself and write exceptions right.

    rules or or change the code around to say like, this is not something I want anymore.

    Now, there is some but not a ton of machine learning in this and one of my goals.

    For 2020 is to upgrade the article selection process to instead of using manual tagging, to use supervised learning as a as a way to process the articles, and get even better targeting, but that’s going to require a lot of work that’s gonna be all those things probably gets done, you know, When, when, even when it gets slow.

    But that’s how I do the content curation.

    This process, and the system has taken probably four years to write in tune over time, and there are constantly new changes coming in as you know, new clients come on who want this service or as I see things and learn things that I want to improve on it.

    That changes the system to its, its ongoing.

    If I were going to start over from scratch, I’d probably do some of the back end architecture a lot differently.

    Because it was built with my skills at that time and as my skills evolve, the system evolves but it’s still not it’s still not where it could be yet Where needs to go.

    To build something like this yourself, you need SQL database skills.

    You need a scripting language as web compatible like PHP, Python, etc.

    And you need data processing language skills like our or Python in order to be able to create the scripts that you need.

    And so them all together into one system.

    So those are the sort of the three sets of skills you’ll need to implement a system like this.

    I would strongly recommend that you come up with your own algorithms and it and you may want to a user interface I don’t I don’t particularly need one.

    But you may want to use your interface if you’re going to do this yourself.

    But that’s how it works.

    That’s how the system works.

    It’s it’s been a pet project for years and it continues to grow.

    And I hope you found this useful for thinking about how you could build your own system like this.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Data Quality and AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Data Quality and AI?

    Sampurnakumar asks, “What level of data quality do you need for AI to be successful? Does it require the best data and best data usage to solve problems?”

    One of the problems with AI, conceptually, is that it’s seen as this mysterious entity that we don’t fully understand. Any qualified AI practitioner should immediately debunk this concept when possible, because AI as it is currently used in the commercial space is anything but mysterious. Substitute the word spreadsheet for AI and see how the question changes, because at its heart, AI is just math.

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    In today’s episode Sampurnakumar I think I got that right asks, what level of data quality Do you need for AI to be successful doesn’t require the best data and the best data usage to solve problems.

    So one of the problems with AI today, conceptually, is that it is seen as this mysterious entity that we don’t fully understand that it’s, you know, no one could understand what’s going on in the machine, which is patently untrue.

    Any qualified AI practitioner should immediately debunk this, this concept of we don’t know what’s going on inside the AI.

    Because AI is, at least as it is being used in commercial business applications.

    I’m sure there are some things in academia which people are still researching, hence, its research but for commercial use for things that we’re doing In business, if you don’t know what’s going on inside the box, you did it wrong.

    Right? Ai, particularly traditional machine learning, there’s no excuse for not knowing what the machine is doing.

    And so when we take the phrase AI away, one of the tricks that I like to do is to substitute the word spreadsheet, because at its core AI is just math, right? It’s nothing more than doing math, stats and probability.

    re ask that question, what level of data quality you need for spreadsheet to be successful? Right, that’s, that’s a lot easier to understand.

    Right? You need a minimum data quality, otherwise your spreadsheets will be wrong, right? And if your spreadsheets are wrong, you’ve got to make bad decisions.

    So the question is less about the type of data quality you need for AI to work and more about the type of data quality you need to get the outcome you’re looking for AI does not solve new problems, right AI solves existing business and math and marketing problems that we don’t have the scale to handle.

    Or we don’t have the time to handle but we’ve previously tried to handle them, right? If you do image classification, image classification is something we do all day, right? You see a crowded store and you recognize a person’s face that you know, that’s image recognition, you do that already.

    So you’re not doing anything brand new, you’re just doing AI is doing that faster and a greater scale.

    When you’re trying to solve a complex mathematical question.

    You could do 300 variable multiple regression analysis by hand, you would not do it quickly.

    And it wouldn’t be a lot of fun, but it can be done.

    It is something that a human being could do.

    It is just not efficient for a human being to do so.

    So Think about with AI.

    And the data quality you need of the data usage.

    How would a human tackle is what level of data quality would a human being need in order to make this work? If you had a spreadsheet open? How would you solve that problem with a spreadsheet? And what data quality would you need? A lot of the time data quality comes down to risk assessment.

    What level of error? Are you comfortable with? What level of error is acceptable? If you’re doing marketing, right, and you’re doing campaign targeting, and and no plus or minus 5%.

    Probably not going to break the bank unless you deploy a multi billion dollar marketing campaign if you drop on 1000 bucks on a Facebook ad, right? What level of error Are you comfortable with probably you’re pretty comfortable, the fairly wide margin of error Right.

    On the other hand, if you are doing medical devices, and the device that you are programming and building a model for is going to be implanted in thousands of human beings, your margin of error is really small, right? or it should be if you’re an ethical practitioner, because you want to have as little error as possible and therefore, risk as few lives as possible, right? There’s a much higher standard for error.

    There’s a much lower tolerance for error in cases like that as it should be.

    So data quality, at its core is really about risk mitigation.

    What level of risk Are you comfortable with? What level of risk are is your organization comfortable with? How wrong Are you allowed to be? Because remember, when you take data that you have, and you feed it to AI, all it’s doing is processing the same data.

    It’s a larger scale, so the margin of error may be the same.

    It might apply some Minus 3%.

    It’s just that instead of a spreadsheet with 1000 rows, you may be looking at data set with a billion rows and 5% of a billion is a much larger absolute number than 5% of 1000.

    But if you’re comfortable with that level of error, great, now one of the things that AI is capable of doing, because again, it’s all just math is identifying very quickly whether something has greater error than we thought, right? So you have this piece of software developed or the status that you’re working with, and it shows, you know, an MA e or an MSE or an RMSE.

    Or any of these the error metrics, area under curve and and the numbers are wildly off.

    You’re like, Huh, that doesn’t look right.

    When you went into situations like that, that is an opportunity for you to use these tools and say, I think there’s more wrong with this data than we thought.

    The reason we don’t do that more is because most practitioners who work with data at least in marketing, copy that in marketing Do not have a formal background of any kind and exploratory data analysis, the ability to look at a data set and go, yeah, there’s some things wrong here.

    Right? That’s something that’s a skill that people lack.

    And that’s certainly a skill that I would like to see more marketers adopt and embrace is the ability to do exploratory data analysis in order to find what level of error is wrong in the data to begin with? And if you don’t do that, you can never know that.

    And then yeah, you do have, at that point, the worst case scenario, you have unknown risk, you don’t know what the risks are.

    And that’s very dangerous, because it could be 2%.

    It could be 200%.

    And you could have you could be in for a really bad time as as the South Park character say, so that’s the answer to that question, substitute the word spreadsheet and then ask yourself what level of risk Are you comfortable with in your data in order to make the determination whether you’ve got good enough data to use with artificial intelligence and machine learning Thanks for the question please leave your follow up questions below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Black Friday Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Black Friday Marketing Trends?

    Kat and about 30 other people ask, “What’s up with Black Friday ads and deals starting earlier and earlier every year?”

    Markets follow wallets. If there wasn’t demand for it, markets wouldn’t sell it. Watch the video for a tour through just a little of the data to see why markets are behaving as they are, and learn how to think about planning for any kind of holiday.

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    In today’s episode cat and about 30 other people asked what’s up with the black friday ads and deals? Why is this stuff starting earlier every year? what’s what’s going on with that? Well, one of my favorite expressions, I can’t remember where I heard it.

    I’m not sure that I heard it anywhere, actually, is that markets follow wallets.

    Markets follow wallets.

    If there wasn’t demand for it, if customers weren’t doing it, or demanding it, markets wouldn’t sell it.

    Right, we see that for the most part.

    In the long term.

    The laws of economics hold pretty well supply and demand.

    So if customers want Black Friday deals earlier in earlier, the markets going to fill that demand, particularly since there’s so much such intense competition for the customer share of wallet.

    And everybody, of course, is is aiming at the retail mega giants, you know Walmart and Amazon.

    What’s interesting is that Amazon and Alibaba and many other companies are now looking at trying to create their own shopping holidays earlier in the year so that they can get share of wallet earlier.

    Amazon Of course created Prime Day Ali Baba has Singles Day.

    And these are multi billion dollar exercises.

    But for the average retailer, that’s that’s not something that they can do.

    So they have to go with Black Friday.

    And so the ads come out a little bit earlier to try and Garner interest.

    Now, one of the best tools to do this kind of research is Google Trends.

    Because of course, it’s hooked into Google Search data, which is still the largest search engine on the planet.

    It informs us very well of what the consumer is doing what the customer is thinking about.

    So let’s, let’s bring this up here.

    Here we have the Black Friday, search terms, three of them, Black Friday, Black Friday and the year and Black Friday deals.

    And the year one is important because even though we all know, Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving, we know Thanksgiving is the fourth Thursday, in November, people still don’t know the date.

    So they do search for that.

    In fact, if you go to a keyword search tool, here’s an RFC.

    You can see that the years keep showing up over and over and over again, it’s the years and major retailer names are the top search terms.

    And these are terms that have crazy, crazy, crazy amounts of search volume.

    So when we look at just the last 12 months, in fact, let’s dig into the last 90 days here in Google Trends.

    We see that interest in Black Friday deals really hitting inflection point right at the end of October.

    So retailers, understandably, have been, you know, pitching their wares all through the month to try and Garner more and more interest.

    Of course, it hits a major inflection point, really about last week.

    So it is today is the 27th as I’m recording this, so last Wednesday, the week before Black Friday, that’s when you really start to see that interest does start to hockey stick up.

    So we know that here we’re talking almost, almost a month out is when interest starts to peak.

    Now if we expand out our timeframe, let’s look at five years back.

    Five years back, you can see the trend of relative search volume in general continuing to increase year after year after year and there’s no reason to expect that this year will be any different.

    If we jump back to 2004, which is far back as you can get, again, pretty clear obvious trend here about what’s going on with Black Friday, it is getting noticeably larger and larger every single year.

    So markets follow wallets.

    This is why we have so much more holiday shopping advertising.

    And I can’t blame our marketers and sales for doing that even though as consumer you get kind of tired of it.

    Now, what do you take away from this? A couple things.

    Number one, markets follow was that number to use this type of research to try and figure out why people do something.

    I love using search data.

    Because search data tells us about implicit intent.

    If you did not care about Black Friday deals you would not Google for it.

    Right.

    It’s not something you would Google for.

    You be googling for Don’t know Taylor Swift’s latest song, whatever it is that you have an interest in, you have to make the effort to go out and search for this thing.

    If I were a specific retailer, let me remove stuff here.

    Let’s do amazon black friday.

    If I was Amazon, for example, I would be looking to try and capitalize on when people in specific are searching for my company’s name and the Black Friday projection.

    Let’s scale this back here.

    So, last year, Amazon really got started right around end of October this year.

    This year is about a week later.

    Again, the holidays A week later this year.

    So it makes total logical sense.

    So you have a calendar to operate with now, what are the search trends in your industry? What are the search trends that would give you a head start? Right? What if you want it to get ahead of the trend, you would start advertising just when consumer interest is starting to pick up, but not when it’s full blown hockey stick, you also don’t want to start too early when there’s no interest, because logically, there’s nothing happening there.

    And people might make mental note of it, but won’t take any action on it.

    So your your action starts at that inflection point when interest begins to peak.

    Now if you want to get really fancy, you can use predictive analytics, you can use time series forecasting to forecast the next year ahead, based on your last five years of data to see when next year will this happen, so that you can plan ahead now a year in advance.

    That’s what I do for a lot of our customers to Trust Insights do predictive forecasts, so that we can say like, this is when In the next year specifically, you need to get things rolling says a time when you plan then you prepare, and then you publish and then you promote and you have to do that, according to when the market is moving so markets follow wallets follow the customers wallet.

    So that’s why we have so much Black Friday advertising, the trend is inescapably upwards.

    The the consumer is looking for more of those deals.

    And, and until the consumer stops looking for it stops wanting those deals, you’re not going to see an end to that advertising.

    So that’s why it is, as always, please leave your comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Remarketing Strategy and Tips?

    You Ask, I Answer: Remarketing Strategy and Tips?

    Dominique asks, “What type of remarketing are you using / on which platforms have you been the most successful?”

    Remarketing, the art of showing ads to people who haven’t converted, on the surface seems like a pretty simple tactic – show ads to people who haven’t converted. The question is, which kinds of conversions, and which kinds of people? The best overall strategy is to think about remarketing in terms of conversion type, time, and audience – then advertise along those three vectors as budget allows. Platform is less important than strategy. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Dominic asks, what type of remarketing Are you using or on which platforms have you been the most successful? So remarketing, the fine art of showing ads to people who haven’t converted.

    On the surface seems a pretty simple tactic, right? show ads to people who haven’t converted.

    The question is, what kinds of conversions? What kinds of people remarketing requires, like everything, a bit of strategy to it.

    Think about the things that customer does b2b or b2c.

    When they’re not converting what caused them to not convert? Because the offer was wrong either the wrong person did the landing page of the creative not striking that they get distracted while they were at their computer or on their phone and just forget there’s any number of reasons that People don’t convert, one of the most important things to do is to try and figure that out.

    So to the extent that you can use exit surveys, reengagement campaigns, reaching out and calling people to say, hey, not trying to pressure you into buying the thing, it’s want to know why you didn’t buy the thing.

    So that we can better tune our product development, marketing, etc.

    So that’s step one, figure out to the best extent you can the reason why because of the reason why it’s something that you can fix with operations.

    That then means you don’t need to spend money on the advertising in order to recoup those audiences.

    For remarketing itself, the best overall strategy is to think about remarketing in terms of three vectors, three different dimensions or factors that you can see in your analytics versus conversion type.

    So this is especially true in b2b but it’s still true and b2c, particularly complex b2c.

    Conversion types.

    Is it a lead generation conversion? Is it a purchase conversion like e commerce? Is it a booking? Is informational? Is it just transactional? Is it even just awareness generation? What’s the conversion type? Because different conversion types obviously are easier or harder to win back the more risk or the bigger the commitment of the conversion, the more likely to someone’s going to bail out.

    Second time, you need to have in your remarketing system, the ability to track and remarket against time, the longer somebody has been away from the purchase, the probably the less likely they are to, to buy something, and they may have already purchased something else that fulfill that need.

    So you want to have that as a dimension.

    And the third of course, is the audience.

    Who when where, who are the people that you have not converted? And where are they take a look at your analytics and look at things like organic search, the Google ecosystem, and then the Facebook ecosystem.

    Those are sort of the two big platforms that live digital markers focus on this is Google ads and Facebook ads.

    Look at your existing traffic, look at your existing converting traffic in your web analytics.

    And make the determination about where you get more of your converting traffic from that’s going to be your best bet for where you’re going to run your retargeting ads.

    And if it’s if it’s an even mix, then you’re going to split your budget.

    What you want to do is advertise along those three vectors as far as budget allows.

    And this is important that you get the vector ID and because it’s not one of those dimensions, there’s a very good chance that it’s going to be a combination of those dimensions that determines what causes somebody to come back So it could be somebody that is relatively low risk and recent to your site.

    But maybe they’re the audience type doesn’t matter, or could be somebody coming from Google and somebody who gets to like step stage three of your purchase process.

    Whatever the case may be, you’re going to have to do some analysis to figure out along those three vectors whatsoever, the sweet spot where you can see the these three factors are differentially impacting the likelihood of a conversion.

    Then you run your advertising along that you target people who are at a certain point in the funnel at a certain period of time, from a certain place and running ads against them.

    Generally speaking, you’re going to want to if you think about your operations funnel from almost purchase, to Who are you, who you want to run your ads With all of your spend, starting at the bottom until you get hit diminishing returns for your lowest funnel audiences, and then moving up the funnel spending until you run out of budget, essentially, whatever you’ve allocated upwards of the funnel, but you have to start at the lowest part of the funnel that you can possibly get to because logically, if someone is almost committed, and they just need a nudge, you’re going to get a higher return on investment, a higher return on ad spend from that person at the bottom, then the person at the top was like I still don’t, I don’t even remember who you are, or how I ended up on your website.

    So think about it along those lines.

    Most of this data is in your web analytics, particularly if you’re using Google Analytics and using Google ads.

    There, there really is no, no reason not to have access to all this data and it is there and it’s very, very easy to get ahold of Facebook a little bit harder but not a ton harder because again, Facebook wants to make it easier, easier for you to spend money with them.

    Where Facebook allows you where Facebook gives you some advantage is that it has different properties.

    And it has.

    And they’re known behaviors.

    People do behave differently on Facebook than they do on say, Instagram or WhatsApp or messenger.

    And so you can retarget based on the audience of behaviors, the known propensity of people to behave a certain way on those platforms.

    With Google, Google has such a massive footprint that it can be difficult to know how someone’s behaving on the Display Network, the Search Network, YouTube, Gmail, all these different systems.

    That said when it comes to display retargeting people have been finding very, very good success with RLSA and RLSA.

    youtube RLSA means retargeting lists for search ads, somebody types in keywords related to you.

    campaigns and you we target those people with retargeting ads based on their search history.

    If they’ve got high intent searches, it’s particularly for competitors.

    There’s a, there’s a really good opportunity to steal some market share there.

    And then there’s RLSA for YouTube, which is when you are taking that search history and then showing YouTube ads to those people on YouTube.

    Later on, it’s like somebody searches for winter snow boots here in New England where I am, and, and then the next time they’re on YouTube, they see ads for your snow boots.

    reminding them hey, it’s about to get cold where you are.

    Buy a pair of our boots.

    Those retargeting vehicles have traditionally done very, very well for people.

    So there’s a lot to unpack in a retargeting strategy if you do it well.

    But those fundamentals of conversion type time and audience really help you set your strategy well and in some cases even dictate the platform.

    We’re less about the platform we’re more about do you have the data to target the right audience that will give you your highest return on ad spend? Leave your comments in the comment box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Agency Social Media Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Agency Social Media Marketing Strategy?

    Taryn asks, “What do you/your company post on company social media? Do you share client work and updates? BTS & company culture of the agency to appeal to new hires? A mix of both?”

    It depends – each channel is different, each audience is different. Setting clear purpose and intent makes a big difference about what you post, about your whole agency social media marketing strategy. At Trust Insights, most of our Twitter and LinkedIn content is syndicated industry news we find useful. YouTube and Instagram tend to be events. Deciding a purpose matters most, following by setting measurement goals.

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    In today’s episode Terran asks, what do you what are your company post on company social media? If you work in an agency, do you share client work and updates back behind the scenes and company culture of the agency to appeal to new hires and mix? Both? It’s a good question.

    It depends.

    It depends on the audience, the channel, the overall strategy, things like that.

    One of the things that is really helpful in terms of marketing your agency on social media is setting clear purpose.

    What do you get from this channel? What do you get from this channel? What do you get from this channel? So Trust Insights, for example.

    Twitter, mostly is going to be syndicated industry news.

    Same with LinkedIn.

    LinkedIn actually gets a syndicated copy of us to answer videos as well.

    And that’s because the audiences on those platforms are, are expecting and behave like audiences that want heavy business content.

    Things like articles we find useful and informative when it comes to data and analytics, which is what we mostly work with.

    YouTube and Instagram, for us tend to be about events.

    So posting conference videos, snippets, live interviews and things from events that we’re at, we go to a lot of events.

    We speak at a lot of events.

    And so those channels, that’s sort of the intent there.

    So that that purpose matters most to know what it is that the audience expects.

    The other thing to think about is what does the audience how do they behave? those channels.

    When you’re on Instagram, for example, you’re you know, you’ve got the whole, you know, something going into scrolling through your feed is as quick as possible swiping through your stories.

    And so that’s a place where it is almost completely visual content.

    No super heavy chunks of text saying with Facebook, although our our analytics on Facebook have been so appalling that you know, it’s at this point, the only reason we post to Facebook because we haven’t removed from Agorapulse yet.

    deciding that purpose matters the most.

    Second thing that’s really important is to set really good measurement goals.

    Right? If you set up a channel and you said this is going to be our behind the scenes channel, and you’re posting and then you look at your analytics and as a flatline, the audience isn’t responding to it.

    So change your strategy one really important thing to do that not enough people do is ask the audiences on that channel what they want from you on that channel, just, you know, run a poll, run a survey, maybe even put a few ad dollars behind it just to make sure people who are subscribed to you can see it.

    But ask them like, Hey, you follow us here in our audience, whatever.

    What do you want to hear? What do you want to see? What would be value to you.

    And that will help you triangulate on that channels impact as well.

    Third thing I’d recommend doing is at least for those channels, where you can get the data LinkedIn is not one of them, but certainly YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, you can get competitive data.

    So if there are competing agencies in your space, you can extract that data from the music and a number of different third party tools and get a sense for what really works for those other agencies.

    So if you say like a public relations agency, put together a list in something like Talkwalker or CrowdTangle.

    And look at what they post Look what gets them the highest levels of engagement, look at the top 20 or 30 posts or maybe the top 25%.

    And get a sense of, is it content that is about, you know, behind the scenes, is it client stuff? What is it that that resonates most and that will give you a good sense of what that industry’s general audience is looking for.

    So those are sort of three steps.

    Figuring out your purpose, validating that purpose with measurement, and then looking at competitive in order to see our others others Similar audiences like that.

    The competitive one I think, is when people don’t do enough of and they overlook because it is much more difficult and time intensive to do.

    But it’s how you’re going to grow.

    Because if you have a good sense of this is what our competitors are doing and what’s working for them, then you may be able to take some market share with them, at least in terms of Attention, attention that they get on social media.

    Now.

    If your competitors, engagement metrics, are all appallingly low, then you have to consider maybe they’re doing it wrong, as a collective group thing within an industry is not uncommon, especially the agency world because people in the agency world, job hop like crazy and so you can get a very homogenous culture.

    In a region, all the agencies social media starts to behave the same because in some cases, that person that, you know, manager or a director or vice president has been at like seven agencies in the area in like the last four years.

    And so all those practices tend to be homogenous.

    So use that as a warning sign too.

    if everybody’s content looks the same and everybody’s metrics look the same, then you have an opportunity to do something different and perhaps gain some market share that everyone is ignoring.

    So something to think about lots lots to think about, but that’s would be my recommendation said the purpose measure the purpose and compare the purpose and see how you do if you have any follow up questions please leave them comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Professional Development?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Professional Development?

    Monina asks, “What do you currently do for professional development? What do you look for?”

    I practice what’s called inquiry-based learning, or problem-based learning. This particularly methodology comes from the medical world; in the 1960s, students at McMaster University pioneered it in response to rote memorization (though the technique is timeless). Inquiry-based learning brings together many different skills, but can be inefficient and incomplete, and requires a base level of skills, which I usually obtain from online courses and reading. It is ideally suited for agency life and client work. Watch the video for a full explanation.

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    In today’s episode, Molina asks, What do you currently do for professional development? What do you look for? So that’s a really interesting question.

    Because in a lot of ways, I think the type of professional development I do is mostly tailored to how I learn.

    And that’s one of the things that’s really important for any organization to do and for any individual practitioner to know is how do you learn best? There are all these different methods and techniques for learning, whether it is just passive content consumption, courses, training, conferences, you name it, there’s a million and a half different ways to learn some topic.

    The question is, how do you learn best? And if you’re managing people, how do they learn best because there’s a lot of cases where a technique that works for one person will not work for another person.

    My personal methodology is in academia, it’s called inquiry based learning or problem based learning.

    This is essentially when you start with a problem that you’re trying to solve, and then you explore all the ways to solve that problem.

    This methodology comes from really the 1960s.

    At least the discipline has known today it’s it’s much older than that.

    You could argue that Socrates and such back in antiquity, were doing this sort of thing because it’s, it’s functional learning.

    The the specific discipline is comes from McMaster University in the 1960s and medical school, where students in response to their complaints that you know, at the time medical school is vast amounts of memorization without any practice.

    They said this doesn’t help us solve problems that we’re likely to face in.

    In the medical world.

    inquiry based learning brings together many, many different skills.

    So if you’re given a problem, how do you solve that problem, one of the ways you can solve it.

    Now, it requires a few things to be effective.

    Number one, it requires a lot of time.

    Because you have to have the time to explore all the solutions.

    It requires access to the information in some fashion or format, whether that’s through a mentor or through a search engine or whatever.

    And it requires a base level of skills.

    So if you don’t have any skills whatsoever, for example, in data science, it would be a very, very difficult way to start learning data science to open up the studio ID and got that blank cursor and an empty Filing a great, what do I do now.

    So you probably want some other methods to supplement it like a basic class or a course, I usually get my base skills from online courses or reading tons and tons of specialist material looking at ways people have already tried to solve the problem and picking up techniques that they use and adding them to my repertoire.

    In on Saturday nights, I do this thing, sometimes a post about on Facebook, on my personal profile and on LinkedIn, but sometimes they don’t call it the Saturday night data party, where I take a problem that I want to explore or a data set that I want to explore.

    And I dig into it and it’s sometimes it’s work related.

    Sometimes it’s not sometimes a piece of data crosses my desk is like, Wow, that’s really interesting.

    What can we do with that? How could we use that? Or problem like, how do I make help a reporter more accurate AirTable it’s 150 queries in this thing, how do I turn that into something that I can take action on faster and then I try and solve that problem.

    Now, there’s some downsides to this approach.

    Like I said, One, it does require a lot of time it requires some basic skills and it can be inefficient.

    You may learn how to solve a problem.

    And you may come up with a solution, but it may not be the best solution.

    You You may not discover best practices this way, unless you are actively looking for them.

    And you may reinvent the wheel a lot.

    And that’s okay.

    In training and development, reinventing the wheel sometimes the only way to learn how will wheel works.

    If you’re on a time crunch, it’s probably not the fastest way to learn.

    But it is a way to learn thoroughly so that you can be a practitioner and be able to stand behind your work.

    You know how a piece of code works, or tool works because you’ve used it to solve that problem.

    Where inquiry based learning really shines, I think is in agency life in client work in places where you need to be able to show practical experience cases that when a client says I’ll now what kind of experience do you have in this in this field or in this industry, you can show very clear specific examples of how you solved in that industry.

    And if you haven’t, if you can get a hold of a data set from the industry, you can show how you solved for it, even if you’ve never done paying client work event industry, which is super, super important if you are trying to start your own business.

    If you’re trying to start a new team or a new line of business inside of a company, having that portfolio of case work that you’ve done really helps illustrate Your skills and instill confidence in somebody that you’ve done this before you know what you’re doing.

    So inquiry based learning that really great for agency life.

    The catch is you have to have time to do it.

    So one of the most important things in general and professional development is making time for it.

    But doubly so if you are an inquiry based learner, you must block off time and your schedule every week, ideally every day, so that you can continue to grow your skills because one of the challenges of inquiry based learning because it is nonlinear, and it can lead you down all sorts of interesting rat holes is it’s very difficult to develop a comprehensive map of what you know until you’ve really explored a good chunk of a discipline.

    So if you are doing infrequently, you end up reinventing the wheel a lot on ground you’ve already walked on.

    As opposed to if you have frequent windows or Training is not long if even if it’s 15 minutes a day.

    You can remember what you did yesterday.

    Oh yeah, open up your your code or your tool or software, whatever.

    Like, I remember this, I remember doing this yesterday and you you continue down those pathways until you run out.

    The other thing that you should consider if it’s possible if it’s there is finding some kind of mentor at least somebody or a community of people who are in that particular technique or technology or or system that you can ask questions to as I participate in Stack Overflow, the coding website, a lot, I a lot of questions like, hey, how do you do this? Has anyone ever done this? And there are literally decades of answers on there for some of these programming languages.

    where people’s like, Oh, yeah, you see in 2008, someone asked me, How do you do this? Oh, yeah, I have that problem.

    And it helps you solve individual techniques faster.

    Not reinvent the wheel for something that is long standing and well proven, especially since a lot of the folks contribute answers on there.

    will say, Well, here’s four different ways to do this.

    So example I use the our programming language.

    So here’s the tidy verse way of a data table way and the deep lie away and the bass ROI.

    And you’re like, Okay, got it.

    Here’s how all these different things work.

    And having access to that knowledge in that community is is super helpful.

    So that’s the technique I use, it is not for everyone.

    If you are your brain works in this particular way, kind of scattered.

    I joke Attention Deficit really shouldn’t in a lot of ways because that is a clinical diagnosis that I’m not qualified to make for anyone including myself.

    But if you if you don’t learn in a linear way, if you don’t learn to not pick up the book, you know, start digging into the book.

    Okay, let’s read the book, read the book, read the book, if that’s not your style learning, inquiry based learning may be the way to go.

    But you have to be incredibly self motivated to do it, to pursue it, and have a place to turn when you run into questions you can’t answer and you can’t find a good answer for and you may not have the language to ask for.

    So, community is learning very useful for that.

    Speaking of which, if you haven’t already joined my slack group analytics for marketers, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers and join our slack group.

    You can ask questions and if you’re doing inquiry based learning a great place to ask where to go next.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Link Building Cold Outreach?

    You Ask, I Answer: Link Building Cold Outreach?

    Michael asks, “I get dozens of cold outreach link requests a day that are clearly templates or automated. Does this tactic actually work?”

    Cold outreach requests work in the same way that spam works – you only need a small percentage of people to respond positively. As a whole, it’s efficient but not particularly effective, it tends to work on low quality content, and it does cost your organization some reputation, especially if it’s done poorly. What works better is creating amazing content that people want to link to, and investing in the relationships first.

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    Christopher Penn In today’s episode, Michael asks, I get dozens of cold outreach link requests a day that are clearly templates or automated does this tactic actually work? Yeah, we all do cold outreach, Link requests in their templates to say like, hey, owner of Christopher penn.com, I noticed that you write about marketing, please link to my marketing article 44 ways to ruin your reputation with cold outreach link requests, right? We’ve all if you have a blog, you’ve gotten at least one request like this.

    And the more popular your blog is, the more you get of these, I would imagine someone like Michael his site gets millions of visitors a year and of course, he’s probably getting thousands of these a day.

    They work sort of, they have most definitely not a best practice.

    They work in the same way that spam works.

    A small percentage of people do respond positively, typically lower quality sites.

    And the companies that do these by and large, just shotgun blast these things everywhere, they’ll send out a million emails.

    Or they’ll use bots to spam comments on blogs.

    As a whole, the technique is efficient, it is not particularly effective.

    The links that you do earn from it are mediocre at best, random WordPress bloggers and stuff.

    I’m wordpress.

    com or medium or essentially people who don’t know better than to take these link requests and put them exactly where they belong, which is in the bin.

    And it does the technique and this is one of the reasons why you really shouldn’t use it is the technique and cause you cost your organization some reputation the same way as spamming with a lot of the companies that do this sort of thing, outsource it.

    They outsource it to the lowest cost possibilities and whether it’s full automation or inexpensive labor offshore.

    And it’s almost never done well, there is a way to do link building Well, number one, make content people want to link to that certainly helps that if you have original research or unique data of some kind, you can absolutely earn links the easy way easy by creating stuff that is unbelievable.

    That would be the best practice choice by far.

    And you can do individual outreach to people.

    But you have to do two things.

    First, number one, you have to do your homework.

    If you’re going to ask someone to link to your blog, Post show that you read their blog post in its entirety and you understand the context of your question, the context of your questions is appropriate.

    If you are reaching out to a marketing blog and saying, Hey, would you link to my, you know, body wash website.

    Now, there’s no fit there.

    There’s no relationship.

    There’s no context, it’s just clearly a random commercial pitch.

    And that’s going to get disposed of, and to build the relationship first.

    This is something that drives me nuts about a lot of public relations folks as well.

    We’re also sending out random cold pitches.

    There’s no relationship.

    And if you don’t invest the time and the time is measured in months or years.

    If you don’t invest the time in the relationship, then you’re not going to get a good outcome.

    When someone who’s a legitimate friend asks me, Hey, can you share my thing? Generally speaking, I’m probably going to say yes, as long as the things worth sharing I had somebody who reached out to me, he reached out a couple days ago, but I’ve known him for a decade.

    And he’s like, Hey, would you be willing to contribute to this thing on someone and I read it and I gave him some some feedback and said, Yeah, when it’s time, let me know and I’ll, I’ll share it for you.

    He has invested the time in, in building that relationship so that the ask is not cold.

    This is what separates a good link builder from bad one, a good PR person from a bad would want a good influencer marketing person from bad one.

    They invest the time to build those relationships.

    And they do it over a long period of time so that there’s an actual human connection.

    And then it’s like banking, I hesitate to use the analogy because it is kind of tacky to think of these kinds of professional relationships as a keeping score, but it’s good analogy in that if you Don’t deposit money in the bank, there is nothing to withdraw from it.

    Right? You cannot withdraw from an empty bank account.

    In the same way or relationship if you don’t invest in the relationship you cannot withdraw from it, you cannot ask anything of it because you didn’t give anything to it.

    And this concept I think, from Vienna, I originally called givers gain, you give first without expectation, just to build the relationship.

    And then at some point, you know, you will have to ask for something at some point.

    But at some point down the road, you earn the right to make that ask, and that’s true with outreach as well.

    So this begs the question, well, how can you invest in you know thousands of relationships you can’t.

    What you need to do is do some strong analytics to identify in the network of people who are in your space in your vertical industry, do an actual influencer map and influencer graph using data to identify the two or three or four super nodes within your network that The hubs of every conversation with the majority of conversations, a great way to do this would be to take, for example, social media content from like, a five or 10 conferences in your industry.

    Or look at the academic papers published in your industry, and create a network map that says, These are the people who everybody talks about everybody references and those five people.

    That’s where you start your relationship building, right? So that you’re focusing on the hub because once the hub gets a piece of information, it can then spread it to its network of first and secondary connections.

    And you will get exponential returns on your effort from that if you approach it smartly that way.

    That’s how you do it.

    Right.

    When somebody like in our industry, like Jay Baer, when he publishes a blog post with our content, and it we see it show up everywhere, we see links show up everywhere.

    He is a super node within the network.

    And so that’s somebody that You know, we would we would, we would want to maintain a relationship for professional reasons is nice personal reasons to he’s an amazing human being.

    But that’s how you do it.

    So cold outreach links link is not the best practice do warm outreach link requests and the very best of all is do a collaboration with somebody that you have that relationship with.

    And again, you will create amazing stuff.

    I did a some work with Agoura pulse recently we did a the social success summit.

    It was one of the biggest prospects and lead generators of the year I did a piece with Talkwalker without Alban format or a Talkwalker.

    And it again did some tremendous stuff, they have some things coming soon, all relationship based, so that’s the way to do it.

    build a relationship build together and you will build the links and the links will be high quality from reputable places that will boost your SEO.

    So as always, please leave comments in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: ZIP Code Mapping for Sales Territories?

    You Ask, I Answer: ZIP Code Mapping for Sales Territories?

    Maria asks, “I need to create a zip code territory map with each area represented by a different color (that I can pick). It will be exported as a graphic file. Are there any free/low cost options for this that are easy to use?”

    Download all the ZIP codes from the USPS/Data.gov and then code them in Excel. Upload to Tableau Public (free) and color by the coding. I typically find great datasets like this on sites like Data.gov, Kaggle, and Data.world. Today’s dataset comes from Data.world. Watch the video for a walkthrough of exactly how to do this.

    When you’re done it should look like this:

    You Ask, I Answer: ZIP Code Mapping for Sales Territories?

    You Ask, I Answer: ZIP Code Mapping for Sales Territories?
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    In today’s episode, Maria asks, I need to create a zip code territory map with each area represented by a different color that I can pick it will be exploited as a graphic value any free low cost options for this that are easy to use.

    Yes.

    The tool of choice here for this is going to be Tableau Tableau public.

    So Tableau is software, which is now a Salesforce company has a bunch of different versions ranging from free to egregiously expensive and Tableau public for this kind of project is going to be ideal because your output is just a graphic and it can even be an interactive graphic and post publicly on Tableau public’s website.

    Full disclosure Tableau public price for being free is that you have to post the data publicly, you cannot save it locally, but you can take a screenshot that for what you’re trying to do, maybe good enough.

    So first, you have to start by getting the zip code data The easiest place to get this from is the US government.

    Now, fortunately, many, many, many people have already done this.

    If you go to sites like data.gov Kaggle, in this case, data dot world as the one I’m going to use, people have already put these data files together.

    So let’s let’s flip over here and and do this live.

    Start by going into data that world and identifying the zip code tabulation area database you want.

    US Postal Service zip codes are not exactly mapped to what are called zip code tabulation areas which is done by the Census Bureau.

    But for sales territories, it’s going to be good enough like if you’re flying drones with flight plans, you might want to use something different but for this type of project, you are done via just fine with ZZTA.

    Now from there, you’re going to want to open up and find one of the files, any of these files in here by Metro whatever and it should be about 28,000 Records.

    You’ll notice that if you open this up in in a tool like Excel, you’re going to have It’s going to treat best calm as a number.

    So make sure that you you make a modification to the number format here.

    And we want this to be very specific, we want to be a custom 12345 like so that will fix those leading zeros.

    The rest of the state of for the most part you’re not going to need so let’s go ahead and drop that.

    And then based on the territory let’s put a column here called owner and I’ll make let’s go for the first thousand these will make mine make the next few thousand Let’s get down here.

    Those Katie’s my SEO and then will make our head of business development on the rest, like so.

    paste that in.

    There we go.

    Now we’re going to save this file.

    And this file will now take and open up in Tableau public.

    So it’s just a straight up text file, very easy to use.

    Open our text file.

    Let’s go ahead and find it.

    And specified this.

    This is a geographic role.

    So this is going to be a zip code role.

    That’s the sort of the secret to this thing.

    They have a goat we’ve got that we’ve got the owner go to worksheet.

    And now let’s put our zip code and then map type here.

    We want to filled map because the Or a little tough to see.

    Right? And now our owners will be colored.

    And we can see pretty clearly that we have identified these different territories by the ZCTA fives.

    Now you’ll notice there are some gaps here.

    Why? Because ZCTA is put together by the Census Bureau.

    There’s not enough people in some of these spaces to have a essentially surveys, right.

    So if you need the exact, you know, if you want this map to look pristine, you’re going to probably want to use the US Postal Service actual zip codes rather than ZCTS.

    For the purposes of sales territory, as though there’s no people here there’s no one to sell to.

    Right, so that’s probably okay.

    But you can see just by going to the spreadsheet and identifying the columns by owner we have this lovely colored map here that we can then take that out and if you will Want to just take a screenshot of this, you won’t be able to save this as a particular screenshot and put that into your slide deck.

    Or you can save it to Tableau public, save the tableau public and then have it be available as a interactive file on the public Internet.

    So that’s how you do this.

    Again, this was not a super intensive project, because Tableau already has the geographic mapping data built right into it, which is super, super handy.

    So I would encourage you to play with it.

    There’s a lot of fun to be had.

    There’s a lot of fun to be had in general with things like data world and Kaggle is that there’s so much data that’s available that you can visualize and work with but this is how I would approach this particular project.

    So you know, follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Community Manager Metrics and KPIs?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Community Manager Metrics and KPIs?

    Jessica asks, “What are good objectives for your community management team (outside of response time)?”

    Community management’s goal is loyalty and evangelism – trust and word of mouth. To the extent you can, measure those outcomes. A great community should bring new organic growth, and should have strong retention rates. Depending on the software you use, you may be able to measure things like churn. Ultimately, your community management efforts should be reflected in your marketing analytics.

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    In today’s episode, Jessica asks, I have some community managers on my team and I want to set some KPIs for them in 2020.

    What are good objectives for your community management team outside of response time? So response time, response time sounds like it’s a customer service measure more than is community management.

    And we thought think about community manager.

    Lori talking just customer service, which is a form of community management, are we talking about also nurturing and growing an actual community something like any slack group or discord group or a Facebook group if you had to? If that’s the case, then you have a very different type of community management set of measures than you do for just playing customer service.

    Playing Customer service is pretty straightforward.

    You have response time, you have net positive outcome, net negative outcome, you probably have a serving tool of some kind.

    So you’re looking at NPS scores? What is the likelihood that you would make another purchase from this organization, the next 90 days scale of one to five? What is the likelihood to recommend this company to your friends, colleagues, whatever scale of one to five, those are pretty straightforward measures.

    And for customer service that make a lot of sense for community management.

    Think about what the goal of community management is.

    The goal is loyalty and evangelism, right? You want people to trust you.

    You want people to stick around, and you want people to tell other people about your company, your products, your services, and the community itself.

    So the nice thing is with a lot of digital communities, particularly things like Slack, discord, even Yeah, Facebook groups if you have some of those LinkedIn groups, all of these services do have things you can measure, right? So look at a few things.

    For community management number one is activity in the community itself how much activity is there, community managers have an important job of getting a community started, and then keeping that community going, adding adding fuel to the fire as a word keeping the fires lit.

    It’s is a lot of work very difficult.

    And like any fire, like if you leave your camp fire out overnight, and you don’t put new wood on it, it will eventually go out.

    The same is true of a community.

    So you want to look at those activity numbers, you want to look at retention rates, how many people join or leave your community.

    Depending on the software you’re using, you may be able to actually track individual joins and quits and you want to measure that that’s churn.

    How fast is your community growing? How fast is our people leaving? You see this a lot in the email marketing world for example, you can see what you’re on subscribes are.

    Measuring churn will be improved.

    Communities organic growth, meaning growth without paying money for people referring people to your community.

    So, for example, with Slack, there’s a tool that we use at Trust Insights called Community inviter.

    And it allows you to set up a landing page where people can invite themselves into the slack community, which is nice.

    But you can also have people invite friends and colleagues, right within the interface.

    And so you can measure those and see, are people just coming into the front door? Or are people saying, Hey, you know, co workers, come join this community is super useful to me.

    So those would be examples of things that you would want to measure.

    Ultimately, though, your community management efforts should show up in your marketing analytics.

    So again, for something like Slack, when I post links to the our analytics for marketers slack community, I make sure I UTM tag them using Google Analytics tracking codes.

    And then I can see in my web analytics How many people went from the slack community to the resource I was pointing at? And then did they go through and convert? Did they convert to they buy something? Did they become a client, for example, there’s a couple of folks in our slack group that have become paying clients and the ROI in the beginning of the community was nothing.

    And now the ROI is astronomical because those efforts paid off over time.

    But it’s a lot like farming.

    And that’s something to be aware of in your KPIs.

    Until the day you harvest your crops, your return on your effort is effectively zero.

    Right? It takes a really long time for an ear of corn to grow.

    What 7590 days, so for the that first period of time, people are missing the same, like, Where’s the ROI on this one? It’s gonna be a while The more complex the more expensive the higher risk your product or services, the longer your sales cycle.

    Now, you may have, for example, if you sell chewing gum, you will have a relatively low risk product, right.

    And so your overall sales cycle is probably fairly short and being able to demonstrate some level of ROI will not take five years, right.

    But set the expectation with community management that the ROI is long, it’s longer than other marketing methods typically, but it is in the long run higher, so helps set those expectations as well.

    So that’s that’s a whole bunch of different metrics.

    What I would do is I would map out a community journey map of the stages somebody can take to as they become a community member from awareness to join the community to becoming an active participant, to becoming an evangelist of the community, and then measure along those stages.

    How many Many people in your community are in each of those places.

    And use that as a way of benchmarking not only the success of community management efforts, but also where are things most broken, you have natural looking people to join in community, but it’s tough getting them to participate actively.

    In that case, you know that perhaps you need a different voice in the community.

    Maybe as long as you’re not a one person show.

    Maybe you need to have some ambassadors or something like that to change the tone and tenor of the conversation.

    So lots to think about map those things out and, and give it a shot.

    If you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments box below.

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