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  • You Ask, I Answer: Testing for BERT?

    You Ask, I Answer: Testing for BERT?

    Mitch asks, “Danny Sullivan says there’s nothing to optimize for BERT – ‘There’s nothing to optimize for with BERT, nor anything for anyone to be rethinking. The fundamentals of us seeking to reward great content remain unchanged.’ – is anyone actually testing for BERT?”

    Danny is fundamentally 100% correct – if you’ve always been creating great, rich content that meets Google’s Expertise-Authority-Trust guidelines then literally nothing changes. The challenge for a lot of marketers is… they’re not. And a lot of the “scalability” tricks people use – like hiring the cheapest outsourced content farms or having the intern crank out swill, or copy-pasting lots of pieces from around the web – all those fall apart more. To put it another way, the great remains great, while the mediocre becomes bad in terms of search performance.

    BERT also changes the game for a lot of low-performing marketers because it’s harder to game. The skills and tools needed to use it and work with it are a step higher than what the average SEO practitioner typically has available.

    So, nothing changes for the best. Life gets worse for the rest.

    We did a test yesterday on a key client page that had lost over 2,000 organic search visits year to date, and ran the process I outlined in the blog post. What we found was that there were a few key topics that weren’t in the page that were prominently in the ranking competitive pages, topics that made logical sense but were just omitted from the original piece (possibly for clarity). So, changes made – now we wait to see what happens.

    Here’s a link to the Trust Insights blog post I wrote on BERT.

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    In today’s episode, Mitch asks, Danny Sullivan over at Google says there’s nothing to optimize for BERT, nor for anyone, anything for anyone to be rethinking the fundamentals of seeking to reward great content remain unchanged.

    And Mitchell’s question, Does anyone else actually testing for BERT? Danny is fundamentally correct.

    If you’ve always been creating great content that is useful or helpful or entertaining, that people like that answers the searchers question, and that means Google’s EA t guidelines, expertise, authority and trust, then yeah, literally nothing changes.

    You’ve been creating great content, you will continue to great create great content and Google will continue to funnel people to your website.

    That doesn’t change.

    The challenge for a lot of marketers is There are not, right.

    A lot of marketing content isn’t very expertly written, isn’t high authority and isn’t trustworthy.

    And so this, the algorithms and things that are are being used, will push people away from your content because it’s not as good as what else is out there.

    That’s, that has been the case for every single one of Google’s algorithm changes over the years.

    And the fact that you know, they’re constantly tuning in real time.

    There’s just not a place in.

    If you’re a marketer who wants to have high performing content and attract a lot of search traffic, there is no place for mediocre content.

    And this certainly is no place for bad content.

    When you read Google Search Quality Rating guidelines, one of the phrases that really sticks out and has stuck out for me, ever since I read it is there’s an entire category of stuff that’s not going to rank well, that says nothing wrong, but nothing special, right? Nothing wrong, but nothing special is a death sentence to your content period.

    It doesn’t matter what era of Google algorithm we’re talking about.

    It means your stuffs not great.

    So the other aspect of this is that there have been a lot of marketers and a lot of search firms to that use.

    They called scalability tricks, and I can scale to any industry.

    And what they do fundamentally is just hire the cheapest outsourced content farms or guest authors or have the interns crank out swell or at worst copy paste paragraphs from you know, different sources around the web, to put together high volume content that’s low quality.

    Anytime you’re dealing with a natural language processing algorithm, especially a deep neural network model, like BERT or XL net or GPT to order Elmo or glove, or whatever, the ones that can see beyond the center so word to phrase to sentence to the paragraph to document, right? I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that Google’s ability to use these algorithms extends beyond the sentence level to the document level.

    And in fact, I believe if I’m not mistaken bills Lawsky over it, SEO by the sea has explored some of Google’s patents on this topic.

    All those cheap tricks that people use just to crank out content.

    That’s low quality break more, in when you start using more advanced neural and natural language processing algorithms, the more advanced the algorithm, the more those tricks break because the easier they are to see through you can see this was not written by an expert, or this was written hastily or this was copy pasted together.

    Or this was written by somebody for whom this is not even their first language.

    And so They don’t speak natively and there are at least telltale traces in the content that yeah, this is not this is not look or sound like authoritative content written by an expert with deep subject matter knowledge on the the question being asked to it.

    And you don’t need a ton of content to be able to reflect that right? You don’t need to write 10,000 words to reflect that.

    There will be words and phrases and prepositions and grammatical structures that indicate you know what you’re talking about? Very, very quickly in your writing.

    I compare what your 21 year old intern is going to write about the topic of say, a cardiac devices versus what your chief surgeon is going to write and say, Hey, I need to progress me to you on the latest trends in in cardiac devices.

    You’re going to get fundamentally very different language even in 300 400 500 words, right?That’s about two minutes of somebody speaking, ask your intern to speak for two minutes about cardiac devices, ask your chief surgeon to speak, you’re going to get really different content out of their mouths.

    So BERT changes the game for low performing marketers.

    Because what it does is effectively, it makes the great state great, but it makes the media or really become worse, right in terms of search performance.

    It also changes the game for a lot of low performing marketers because it’s harder to gain right? When you have algorithms that can do reading at the sentence, paragraph and document level.

    It is harder to just add in a couple more keywords.

    Hey, put some more keywords in there.

    In the old days, you know the old joke, an SEO expert walks into a bar Tavern pub, and so on and so forth.

    Those jokes existed for a reason, because that’s what you need to do.

    That breaks down when you’re looking at the document level that breaks down when you’re looking at the paragraph level.

    If it doesn’t read the way, the authorities in the space, right? It will not do well.

    It’s harder to game.

    So Danny is 100%.

    Correct? Nothing to optimize for BERT.

    If your stuff is great if your stuff is not great, there’s a lot to optimize for.

    There’s a lot to improve into images.

    Question Is anyone testing? Yes, we did some testing yesterday on a page that have lost over 2000 visits this year from organic search.

    I ran the process outline in a post over TrustInsights.ai put a link below if you want to read the the 10 step process for this type of optimization.

    And what we found was that there were some key topics and points that were not in the page that were in the competing pages.

    topics that made logical sense but just weren’t in the original piece.

    Maybe for clarity, maybe for narrative flow, whatever the case may be, what was in everything that rank well was not in this target piece.

    So we made some changes.

    Now we wait to see what’s happening.

    And we wait to see how it goes.

    I’m running some tests on my own.

    The transcription software that I use has continued to improve.

    I just did an A B test with a year over year transcript.

    And what is coming out now reads much more naturally, than the way it was transcribing a year ago, I use otter.ai.

    And so for me, I have some work to do to go back and clean up older transcripts, we optimize them to sound more natural.

    So those are some things to think about.

    Again, Danny’s right, great content doesn’t need to change.

    But if your contents not great, it needs to change a lot.

    And for most marketers, that’s a very, very, very long road to all So, great question.

    important question.

    There’s a lot to unpack.

    There’s a lot to watch in this space.

    And you should absolutely be playing with all these natural language processing tools so that you can better understand how they work and apply your learnings to your content.

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  • 5 Takeaways from Comcast CX Technology Day

    5 Takeaways from Comcast CX Technology Day

    I had the opportunity to attend Comcast’s CX Technology Day at the invitation of Jay Baer and the team at Convince and Convert. CX Day is Comcast’s highlighting of what they’re working and some of the challenges they’ve overcome to improve their overall customer experience.

    1. In their digital transformation, which has been and will continue to be a massive, multi-year process, their biggest gap has been on the process side. The technology hasn’t been nearly as much of an issue as getting 60,000 people to follow standard processes.
    2. Charlie Herrin, Chief CX Officer, had an interesting insight on chatbots.
    3. Lisa Blackshear, SVP Comms and Digital Media, said that social has become their early warning system, letting them know of issues well before they hit the call center – and that social scales much better than phones.
    4. Speaking of phones, Tom Karinshak, EVP Customer Service, said that in measuring customer satisfaction using NPS scores, the biggest increase was offering customers a choice other than calling support. Turns out very few people want to talk on the phone – especially if other options work better.
    5. The most interesting session of the day was on how callbacks to customers are mandatory for all employees – even developers and project managers – to see how their work is received.

    They’ve still got a long way to go; one of the interesting things Jay had to say is that brand reputation is a decade cycle, meaning that it takes a decade of mostly positive experiences to teach a new generation of customers that the reputation of the company from the past isn’t its present. My thanks to Jay and the C&C team for inviting me to participate.

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    5 Takeaways from Comcast CX Technology Day

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    In today’s episode, I had the opportunity to attend the Comcast, CX technology day at the invitation of Jay Baer and the team at Convince & Convert.

    CX state is Comcast sort of event highlighting what they’re working on.

    And some of the challenges that they’re working to overcome to improve their overall customer experience, which, as you know, from two seconds of googling is not great.

    And there were five key takeaways I thought were interesting from the day that are more broadly applicable to everyone in all of our businesses, number one, in their digital transformation and trying to adapt to where customers are and where customers want to communicate with them.

    The digital transformation has been mostly focused on process.

    So there’s three parts to digital transformation people process technology, right HJ limits 1964 framework, which we’ve been listening to consultants talk about for six decades.

    And for Comcast, in particular, the biggest gap has been on the process side of a company put together by more than 30 acquisitions and things has enormous challenges making process standardized.

    Technology has not been the issue, getting 60,000 people to follow the same playbook, significantly, a tougher challenge.

    So I thought that was interesting.

    In our own work in digital transformation, in your work at your company, recognizing that process is probably the thing that will be most difficult for a an otherwise, good company.

    Pay for a company that’s not filled with malevolent actors or completely broken Technology processes the toughest part.

    The chief customer experience officer, Charlie Herrin had an interesting insight on Chatbots.

    So number two, he said that Chatbots are a bridge technology between old fashioned call centers, and what will eventually be fully automated, at least first level of support for customers using using voice, but driven by AI.

    And those are really useful insight because a lot of folks are sort of putting a big stake in the ground on Chatbots and how they’re the next thing.

    But yet when you look around at our all of our lovely, you know, smartest systems and things that that are on our desks, in our kitchens, on our phones and mobile devices, and you look at where Google’s going with things like Burt and its natural language queries.

    We really are focused on voice and voice interfaces even to things that have screens.

    And so Charlie’s point that Chatbots Our bridge technology is sort of a stopgap measure.

    I thought it was useful, a useful insight to say like yet don’t invest in them, get good at them, use them to train your team on better natural language processing, but don’t bet the farm on them.

    Because in the next couple of years, they will evolve especially as we get more and more and better and better natural language processing technology.

    Number three, Lisa Blackshear, who was the SVP of comms and digital media said that social media for them has really become an early warning system, letting them know have issues before they hit the call center and first your support.

    And obviously, because of that social media scales much better than phones.

    Comcast says something like 50 million customers, and the social media support team is only about 400 people.

    That’s a lot of people to manage.

    Certainly it’s more than the 13 they had a few years ago but It when you consider just how well that system scales.

    again for your own company, there are plenty of tools that can help you listen and scale and deliver better service through where customers are.

    And if you can build those early warning systems, you can potentially head off much larger issues.

    Speaking of phones, the VP of customer service Tom encouraged economic pronouncing his name correctly, said that in measuring customer satisfaction they they measure on NPS scores.

    The biggest increase that they saw double digit increases was offering customers a choice other than calling support.

    Turns out that not as many people want to talk to phone support, especially if they’re going to be on hold for a while.

    Are their options do work better.

    So when we think about our own companies, and how do we take those all these technologies Chatbots SMS, Facebook Messenger Whatever the the tool is slack is that where our customers want to be? And are we prepared to meet them there? The tough question.And five, the most interesting session of the day I thought was on Callbacks.

    So one of the things that they do that’s mandatory for all employees, top to bottom is they require them to call back customers, even folks who are not in a, any kind of customer service roles, developers and project managers.

    And what was interesting about that was they do that to see to show employees how their work is being received by the marketplace.

    If you’re a developer and you’re working on the x one interface, and you’re making change to the changes to the UI.

    It’s not a bad thing for that person to see.

    Oh, this is what people actually think of the thing and getting that feedback directly from the customer.

    That is something that way too many companies do not do in any capacity.

    And it would be who Companies, particularly a product based company, to have your product developers, your project product and project managers, the people who make the thing, but don’t necessarily have to support the thing to to be in that role in that customer service role.

    And then that having a conversation with the customer about how the product is working for them, because you get the unvarnished feedback from the customers saying, Yeah, I hate this thing, this thing doesn’t do this, let’s do this.

    And when you have the ability to have 60,000 people reach out and say, Hey, how’s it working? How’s it going? You’re going to get a lot of useful data.

    Now, one thing I thought was interesting was that the company doesn’t use like 90% of its data above and beyond diagnostics did to know something’s wrong.

    But there are tremendous opportunities for a company like that and your company to to use even relatively mundane data for things like machine learning and and predictive analytics.

    Real simple example.

    From from the day, we were talking about the use of their systems and hotel rooms.

    If you had a building with 500 of these set top boxes and these these fancy remotes, you can tell usage levels within that building.

    If you can tell usage levels, then you can predict future usage levels, which means that for someone who operated a hotel, for example, they could actually use that data to forecast the likelihood of of guests.

    Combine that with things like electricity usage, plumbing usage, etc.

    And you could build very sophisticated models that could probably reasonably accurately forecast when your volume is going to change that would change your staffing, change your marketing, change your budgets.

    And so I think there’s a tremendous opportunity for any company that has operational data to turn that data into something more useful than just diagnostics.

    Now Comcast itself has got a long way to go.

    One of the interesting things that Jay had to say at the start of one of the panels is that brand reputation is a decade long cycle, meaning it takes a full decade of mostly positive experiences to teach a new generation of customers that the way things were that company, the company’s past, reputation is not the present.

    And 20 seconds in Facebook search or Google search or Twitter search will reveal that there’s still a long way to go for, for the team of Comcast, but what we saw they’re making the improvements that they need and putting the infrastructure in place to meet customers where they are some reason to be optimistic.

    They’re my thanks to Jay and the team at Convince & Convert, for inviting me to participate and look forward to other interesting insights into companies, particularly very large ones, and how they operate when they have many, many, many people and many different types of stakeholders to keep up As always leave your questions in the questions in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Best Performing Instagram Post Type?

    You Ask, I Answer: Best Performing Instagram Post Type?

    Abi asks, “Question regarding multi-photo Instagram posts! Do they perform better than static posts?”

    Here’s the latest research from Trust Insights, which is about a month old. Caution: don’t choose a content type based on performance. Choose a content type based on what shows off your content best.

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    In today’s episode, Abby asks question regarding multi photo Instagram posts called albums or carousels, do they perform better than static posts? Well, there’s an easy way to get this answer.

    This is something that Facebook actually provides data for through its crowd technical software and a Trust Insights.

    We use that software for pretty much everything related to Facebook.

    So let’s, let’s just bring this lovely thing up here for the year to date, January one to about September one.

    This is 4118 brand accounts, so not influencers, not individuals, but companies.

    carousels garnered the largest engagement point five 6% average of his arithmetic means so not medians.

    Photos point four 9% videos point two 8% and Instagram TV point two 6%.

    So those are the numbers.

    The reason we use arithmetic mean is that normally I would prefer to use medium.

    But so many companies are so bad at social media marketing that the media is more often than not end up being zeros, right the median being this no engagement at all which makes any kind of analysis too difficult.

    The average like rate, carousels point five, six photos point four eight videos point two seven Instagram TV point two five average comment rate is pretty much almost zero.

    And this is on a total of 1,386,132 posts across all these different categories.

    So that’s what’s getting average performance on Instagram.

    Now there’s a way to, which we haven’t done here with this way to splice this out so that you can see it by groupings, either core tiles or invest aisles and stuff like that.

    Didn’t do this.

    So this is one of the very top level view.

    Be careful when you’re using statistics like this to benchmark your performance.

    And also to decide what content strategy you’re pursuing just because carousels tend to perform better.

    It’s not heads and shoulders better like you must do this or else.

    It’s really is neck and neck with photos.

    And I did not run a test of statistical significance on this, but I’d be willing to bet that it’s fairly close.

    When you’re setting Instagram content, strategy or any social media strategy, build your strategy around what’s best for your content, not what the average social media Mark scene for performance.

    The reason for this is pretty simple.

    You know your content and you know, the format that performs best in terms of the way people want to see it.

    For example, if you’re a real estate agent a carousels a brilliant idea, right? a castle or a video walkthrough of your property is a no brainer, almost right? If you’re an artist, you might want to have individual posts showing individual pieces rather than sort of how the although the analogy of one diamond, the spectacular pile of diamonds all over a table is not all that impressive, right? That individual diamond loses its specialist.

    So make sure that you are focusing on the the content that fits the way you want someone to receive it as being much more important than What what the average marketer does, especially becausethe average the average corporate marketer, or brand marketer isn’t all that great at what they do.I follow a bunch of brands that I’ve met at different conferences and trade shows on Instagram.

    And I’ve only seen one example of this all if I think back to all the ads, I’ve seen all the content I’ve seen, there’s literally one campaign that I remember.

    And everything else is like, yeah, I’m sure they put an ad up or a piece of content up I can’t remember it.

    So average, literally means both the numerical and also the description of the of the quality of the content, which is what in Google Search guidelines they call nothing wrong.

    But nothing special.

    You do not want to be on the category in social media marketing and SEO in any kind of marketing.

    So please make sure that you pick content, that content format that fits the way that you want to use if that’s that’s the most important thing, but those are the numbers.

    That will be more numbers in an upcoming issue of the Trust Insights, newsletters, if you’re not subscribed, go over to Trust insights.ai slash newsletter, and you can get the weekly newsletter republished there on Wednesdays that has a good chunk of data every week.

    What’s doing well out there, we’ll have some will update some Instagram numbers for you in an upcoming issue soon.

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  • Friday Foodblogging: Homemade Butter and Power Tools

    Friday Foodblogging: Homemade Butter and Power Tools

    I take a special delight in figuring out ways to use tools and technologies that their creators probably didn’t intend. A few weeks ago, I was visiting a local restaurant that touted its homemade butter and remembered that butter, fundamentally, is a pretty simple thing to make. It’s essentially a precipitate; you agitate heavy cream until the fat globules adhere to each other and fall out of solution.

    Normally, you’d do such churning in a butter churn or a mixer, but I decided to see whether I could do the same with a power drill. Why? Because I can. So I ordered these mixer heads off Amazon for $6, stuck one in my Ryobi power drill, and tried making butter.

    Friday Foodblogging: Homemade Butter and Power Tools

    It.

    Took.

    Forever.

    The cordless power drill doesn’t have the RPMs to churn butter quickly. It works, but all in all it took close to 45 minutes – which came perilously close to depleting the battery.

    In contrast, it takes a high-speed blender about 3 minutes to do the same thing.

    Now, if all you have is a power drill, then you make butter with a power drill. It’s one of those “necessity is the mother of invention” techniques that you put in the back of your cookbook.

    Friday Foodblogging: Homemade Butter and Power Tools

    For reference, this technique goes through three stages. First, the heavy cream becomes whipped cream. Then the whipped cream begins to solidify into a very dense mass. Finally, the fat globules fall out of solution and you end up with butter in a watery liquid, buttermilk.

    Ingredients

    • 1 pint heavy whipping cream
    • 1/8 teaspoon salt (optional)
    • Patience

    Recipe

    • Put cream in a tall container.
    • Add salt if you want salted butter.
    • Beat with power drill for 30-45 minutes or until butter is fully precipitated.
    • Lament your situation and buy a proper high-speed blender.
    • Remove butter from liquid with a spatula and store in a separate container.
      • If you’re making this for resale/commercial use, some folks recommend washing the butter in ice cold water to remove the remaining buttermilk. Supposedly it will cause it to spoil and have much less shelf life. I don’t foresee this butter surviving a week before being used, so I’m not terribly worried about it.
    • Reserve buttermilk for something like bread making or pancakes.

    Note that this buttermilk, though authentic, tastes nothing like commercial, store-bought buttermilk, which is often infused with lactic acid to give it a sour, tangy taste. This real buttermilk is good for baking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Sample Sizes for Web Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Sample Sizes for Web Analytics?

    Courtney asks, “How many web sessions (or users) would you need to send to a website for the results to be significant?”

    At first, I thought this question was about A/B testing, which has a whole range of statistics for it. But Courtney is actually asking about how many visitors you need for web analytics to be useful in general. There are two components here – first, what is your website’s obtainable market, and second, how much time are we talking about? Web analytics data gets more representative of your obtainable market as your marketing gets better.

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    In today’s episode Courtney asks how many web sessions or users would you need to send to a website for the results to be significant? It’s interesting At first, I thought this question was about AV testing, which is most of the time where we start getting into discussions about statistics, statistical significance when it comes to your analytics, but they’re actually asking about how many visitors you need for your web analytics to be useful in general.

    And there’s a few different answers for this.

    First, if you’re just getting started or you’re just trying to get a sense of your website’s performance, then it’s really only a question of time you need most of the time, a minimum of 30 days of traffic data to collect anything useful with web analytics, more you have the better.

    90 days is better.

    Yours is obviously better because you can do year over year Parson’s.

    That’s especially true if your business has a high level of seasonality to have cyclicality to it.

    So that time part is is probably the most important important part.

    When it comes to measuring your website.

    The number one thing to measure is improvement against yourself.

    Right? There’s that’s really the the best way to judge Are you getting better results? Are you getting, you know, even 1% more conversion this month than you were getting last month you’re getting 1% more traffic from qualified sources this month and last month, that kind of measurement is is the best because it takes away all the external factors and focuses only on what you’re doing to grow your website.

    Now, if we want to get fancy one way to think about your web analytics is how Much of your obtainable market are you getting this is the market that you could be getting of people in your space.

    So your website should be attracting more of your obtainable market as more time goes on as your marketing gets better as your search engine optimization gets better, and so on and so forth.

    So what is your obtainable market for a website? For most websites, this is going to be a tiny piece, a tiny, tiny little sliver wafer thin of what your audience is searching for it in your SEO topics.

    So say, digital marketing analytics, how many people search for that? test? It’s a 10 million people, right? What’s the likelihood that you could obtain any of that through SEO, assuming you’re really good at it, you’re still talking like probably like a 10th of 1% So it’s a tiny little slice.

    So it’s going to be a very, very thin slice of that obtainable market.

    Once you’ve figured out what is obtainable, what’s what’s you’re likely to be able to attract.

    I use, I typically use a benchmark of cost per click for that.

    If you’re if you’re a company and you take all your major topics, and you add up the cost per click, and you add up the number of clicks, and you get this out of almost any SEO tool, and you will see its costs $27 million a month to capture 100% of the traffic great, what percentage of budget Are you willing to throw into that? Right, if you got like, just saying, well, I got 100 bucks a month I could spend on on on paid search.

    Oh, great.

    So to add that 27 million, your hundred bucks is is the percentage you’re committed to obtaining.

    Now, I’m not saying go out and spend that I’m saying that’s a good way to just kind of get I feel a sense of benchmark of what percentage of the attainable market you’re likely to get, because that’s how much you willing to commit in terms of resources.

    do add in the time spent as money for organic SEO for content marketing, because that is an important part of trying to obtain that audience.

    So that’s part one.

    Part two is then you need to calculate a sample size.

    Right? What sample size, assuming you can get a representative portion of that overall audience that’s searching for the things that you do.

    What sample size Are you comfortable with? That would tell you yes, I’m getting enough of the audience that I can.

    I should be getting, you know, a good idea of what people are interested in for the purpose of analyzing that audience in your web analytics.

    most marketers most of the time, cuz we’re not doing anything life saving right? This is not the ER are comfortable with a confidence level of 95% Confidence Interval plus or minus 3%.

    What that means is confidence level in statistics is, if you repeated this test 100 times 95% of the time, if you have a 95% confidence level, you will get the same results, right? If you were doing something with like pharmaceutical trials, you want to competence level like 99% of the time or 99.9 or point 999, you want to crank that number up so that you get reliable results from marketing where no one’s going to die 95% hence, just fine confidence interval says that when you repeat that test over and over again, your results should be plus or minus whatever that number is.

    In this every time you repeat it, so a plus or minus 3% says that result should have an a margin of error roughly a plus or minus 3%.

    So, if you’re reading that test over and over and over again, you should not very much more than that number outside, the higher you crank up The confidence level and the lower you crank the confidence interval but larger sample size you need.

    The first time somebody does that statistical test, I’ll crank those numbers like to do the extremes of like, Oh, you need 100% of your sample of your audience to to get reliable sample like, Oh, that’s not helpful.

    plug those numbers plus your obtainable market into the survey sample tool of your choice, you’ll get the required sample size for any kind of survey.

    So you know, for say, 10,000 people with 95% confidence level and plus or minus 3% confidence interval, you’re talking 964 people, right? That’s, in fact, what Courtney was asking about.

    That, again, that’s only useful if you’re trying to figure out, you know, how much of the audience Do I need to have as traffic on my website to do statistically relevant judgment about them, their age, their demographics, their behaviors, their search terms and things like that, for the purposes of managing your market.

    You don’t need that at all.

    You don’t need that at all.

    All you need to focus on is your numbers for awareness, consideration, evaluation and conversion.

    And are you improving them? Day after day, week over week, month over month, year over year if you’re if you are improving, that’s all that really matters.

    And I would say that is true for your Google Analytics, your web analytics, your marketing, automation, your email marketing, your social media metrics, any metric at all that you’re measuring.

    Focus on the improvement focus on what can I do to get the improvement A number of years ago, Julian Smith, the CEO of breather, said, when you want to go into growth mode for a startup, the number one thing you can do is pick one relevant metric and come hell or high water, make it grow 8% week over week, he’s like that.

    If you want to grow and you’re willing to throw time you want to throw energy you Going through all your money at this at something to make your business grow, pick one thing that’s relevant and force that thing to grow 8% week over week and it will have a spillover effects into everything else.

    So that’s an interesting way to think about it.

    Now you may not be able to get 8% a week, but could you get 5% month over month? Something to think about? Great question, Courtney complicated question.

    There’s a lot of statistical stuff to dig in here.

    And it really shows that even something as simple as a simple question, a seemingly simple question about web analytics can have a lot of stats and data science behind it in order to really dig into what it is you’re after.

    So good question, complicated question more complicated than you thought.

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  • TechSmith SnagIt 2020 New Features for Marketers

    TechSmith SnagIt 2020 New Features for Marketers

    In this product review, I look at two new features in TechSmith SnagIt 2020 that marketers and content creators will find very handy: templates for images and video from images. If you’re a content creator, you’ll get a lot of value out of both features for creating instructional content for webinars, presentations, your website, and anywhere you can post animated GIFs and PDFs. Watch the video for a demo of how fun these new features are.

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    In today’s episode I want to show off a couple of the new features that are in the news release of tech Smith’s snag it.

    The 2020 edition, full disclosure, my company TrustInsights.ai is a tech Smith affiliate.

    So if you buy something from us, we receive a small but non zero commission as part of that purchase.

    So FTC disclosure get that out of the way.

    snag it if you’re not familiar is image capture software it takes it helps you take better screenshots at least that’s what it used to be.

    Now it’s evolving much more to being a really a full documentation and tutorial tool.

    So if you are in marketing and you are doing anything like online courses, online classes, webinars, slide decks for presentations, the what’s in the tool that’s been added is going to be absolutely invaluable to you for making better, more professional teaching materials, and for doing it faster.

    So if you’ve got a course on like, I don’t know, Google ads or Facebook ads or whatever, you’re going to find this tool absolutely essential.

    So let’s go ahead and flip over here we’re going to take a look at the interface, if you’re not familiar is relatively unchanged, except for this little new Create button.

    And that’s what we’re going to focus focus on today.

    The other stuff, all pretty typical things.

    So in create, there’s two new options.

    One is an image from a template and one is video from images.

    So, let’s uh, let’s do a little bit of work here.

    I’m going to just do a silly serious here.

    Let’s take a couple screenshots of my website.

    And here, and just for good measure, click on here so I’ve got three images in my My tray my doc here.

    Let’s first go and create image from a template.

    And you can see there’s all these different nice little things, preset templates, you can create more, you can download more, things like that, I’m gonna do a basic three steps portrait tutorial.

    Let’s go to full size here.

    And let’s go to actual size.

    How to buy my book, like really silly, right you get you get the idea where this is going, drag and drop one, drag and drop to drag and drop three had your captions.

    And I’ve got a very nice, very straightforward template for documenting steps.

    super powerful.

    Again, great if you want to create handouts for talks, things like that.

    And then as you can, as you saw in the chooser, there’s a bunch of different layouts and if you are subscribed to their service, you can download free ones and paid ones as well.

    Let’s take a look at just a couple of selections, frames, comparisons, multipurpose, you’re doing a course.

    Right? Yeah, have some certificates, you can drag and drop people’s stuff in, you do have to pay for some of these.

    So just know that there is if you want the the free ones, you have to just click on free, you’ll find that there’s not a whole, there’s not a ton there, right? That’s zero cost, but there are some, the basics.

    So that’s the template in part, this one, creating a video from images, I think is going to be a real winner for many of us who are doing this kind of work.

    Let’s select those three images again.

    Like video from images, and we’re going to drag change the order.

    There we go.

    123.

    Now what you do here, let’s hit record.

    And this is essentially gonna be doing voiceover work.

    And we’ll start at the beginning and say you need to Scroll down.

    And then you find this year.

    And then you scroll down.

    Right? very silly, very, very silly.

    Let’s go ahead and hit stop.

    And what this does is it renders this into a video, you can see with the animations right on so that you have essentially a nice, nice little movie.

    Now, I did not turn on the voiceover features.

    You can do voiceover and have full audio to go with this.

    But even if even if you didn’t do the audio, if you look, you can export just an individual snap or you can export the animated GIF.

    So if you have a slack community where you want to be able to explain how to do something Animated gifts render much better in in Slack, then full size movies if you’re doing PowerPoints, and you want to have a presentation with a, an animation that is guaranteed to work properly, use the animated GIF feature.

    So there’s, these are two of the features that are in the new snag of 2020 that I think are super valuable.

    I love the video from images because for a lot of people, they may not necessarily feel comfortable, just doing like, turn on the screen recorder like we haven’t kept aging here and just and just go, they may want to have a little more time to think about what it is they want to show.

    So by planning out the stages in snag it and then doing the animations, they can feel much more comfortable doing that and then maybe even not even do the voiceover here.

    Maybe do the voiceover in in a different editor later on after they’ve had some time to think about what they want to say to go with each of the animations but having these tools I think makes an aggregate 2020 really, really valuable for a lot of us who are creating educational content? Are there other ways you can use these tools of course, then there’s all sorts of news, all the different features that are in the drawing tool for animating images.

    But these are the ones I think, really a couple of winners for what’s new.

    So if you haven’t already upgraded you should upgrade.

    If you want to get this word upgrade, go to Trust insights.ai slash snag it again, disclaimer, disclosure.

    It’s enough we’re an affiliate so we do get a small very small commission for for for your purchase.

    So if you do make a purchase Thank you.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Multi-Objective Optimization for IBM Watson Studio AutoAI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Multi-Objective Optimization for IBM Watson Studio AutoAI?

    Arjuna asks, “Could you please suggest an approach to forecast multiple targets (e.g., is there a way to select multiple columns in AutoAI). In our use case, we need to develop time series forecasts for multiple products. If we correctly understood AutoAI, it will allow us to select one column at a time to generate a forecast… Is there an alternative to select multiple columns (representing multiple targets)? Thank you!”

    IBM Watson Studio AutoAI doesn’t support multi-objective optimization. That’s something you’ll have to do manually with a data scientist and the built-in features for notebooks and coding like R and Python. The reason why is that multi-objective optimization is crazy costly in terms of compute. Combining it with AutoAI would blow up the servers. There’s a lot of research being done right now in this field, and this is a very cutting edge topic. Watch the video for some thoughts on workarounds.

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    In today’s episode, Arjun asks, could you please suggest an approach to forecasting multiple targets? Is there a way to select multiple columns and IBM Watson Studio Auto AI and our use case, we need to develop time series forecasts for multiple products.

    If we correctly understood Auto AI will allow us to select one column at a time to generate such a forecast.

    Is there an alternative to select multiple columns who are presenting multiple targets? Thank you.

    Okay, so there’s a lot to unpack here.

    One, auto AI does not do time series forecasting Auto AI does either regression or classification.

    So it doesn’t support that at all.

    There are methods for doing time series forecasting.

    In Watson Studio, you’d want to use the SPSS modeler for some of that.

    Watson Studio Auto AI out of the box does not support multi objective optimization.

    In fact, none of the auto AI Auto ML family of technologies right now support multi objective optimization.

    The reason for that is that it auto AI itself is fairly costly because the the the analogy I like to use is, if you’re baking cookies, these tools are essentially varying every possible every oven temperature, every possible ingredient to see what the best overall cookie is.

    That is computationally very costly.

    Multi objective optimization is also very costly.

    And it adds crazy, immense amounts of dimensionality.

    The current technical name for is Pareto multi objective optimization.

    And if you think about two people playing tug of war, right? They’re playing tug of war.

    And the little ribbon in the middle of the rope is the objective right? And they’re pulling back and forth.

    That’s a good example of like, single objective optimization.

    You wouldn’t know somebody Got a win.

    Now imagine tug of war with three people, three people holding on the ropes and there’s still you know, there’s things in the middle and each one has a thing.

    And now that four or five or 10 people playing tug of war all holding different ropes, you can see how very very complex this gets.

    Multi objective optimization gives you many, many different scenarios to to, to plan for.

    And then Auto AI has many scenarios of each scenario.

    So you can see how it just stacks up and becomes computationally unfeasible.

    The way we handle multi objective optimization, most of the time, is doing what’s called a constraint based multi objective optimization where you say there’s guardrails.

    So in the marketing world we have in order we’re doing SEO, we have keywords right and we have the volume of searches for keyword, we have the number of likely clicks on that.

    Word, we have the cost per click, if it’s paid, we have the difficulty, we have to rank for a certain keyword.

    Trying to do a four way or five way algorithm to create the best balance of all the possible outcomes is really difficult because you have to compute every possible edge case.

    You know, sometimes you want difficulty 100, you’ll never rank for this keyword a lot.

    That doesn’t, that’s not very sensible, right? Sometimes you want a zero dollar cost? Well, again, not necessarily all that realistic.

    So what, as data scientists will do is apply constraints first into the data set before we do Auto AI on it will say, you know what, I’m not willing to pay more than seven bucks a click right.

    So that immediately knocks off a certain part of the table.

    I’m not interested in keywords that are, you know, above difficulty score 50 because I know my contents not that good.

    So I’m not going to be able to really rank for stuff about that.

    So let’s chop off that part of the table.

    I’m not really keywords that have no, no search volume will drop off that part of the table.

    And you can see we’re starting to apply constraints to our data set first.

    So that when we stick it into something like Auto AI, we already have a much more slimmed down data set where a single objective now make sense, right? will manually look at the table.

    So you know, I want to optimize for clicks.

    clicks is what I care about traffic to my website.

    But I’m going to apply constraints manually on those other columns.

    I don’t want to below a certain volume or above a certain cost or too tough to rank for.

    And then that goes into Auto AI and auto AI actually makes Auto AI much more efficient, because it has much less data to crawl through.

    So you would apply those constraints in advance.

    You can do this with multi objective optimization as well.

    You’d apply your constraints first.

    And then in Watson Studio, there’s the facility to use our or Python notebooks right within the interface and so you can write your own code to apply Using the odd the multi objective optimization library of your choice to do it there.

    So, you could do that that would not get you the auto AI capability, but it will let you do multi objective optimization, you can also use the decision optimization or the see Plex facilities also within Watson Studio to do some of that if you’re not comfortable coding, again, it doesn’t get you the auto AI capability, but it does get you the decision making capability.

    Finally, on the topic of time series forecasting, time series forecasting is tricky in the sense that you need to do the constraints first then you need to do the auto AI first, next, probably regression, either regression or or classification most of regression to figure out what you want to forecast what is worth forecasting.

    And then you do the time she was forecasting on that.

    So, that’s a three step process.

    There’s you go from constraint to regression to forecast.

    And that’s the process for that is not automated either.

    This actually this whole question, this discussion is really good because it highlights the immense difficulty.

    The data science and AI community is having with a lot of these automated AI solutions, they are good at very narrow tasks, they’re good at one thing, but the number of techniques that you can combine that your human data scientist will know to combine and in what order is very difficult to put together in a machine just have a push the button and and let the machine do its thing.

    It will come in time, but it’s going to be a while.

    It’s not going to be in the next quarters release.

    Let’s let’s put it that way.

    So to answer your question, do your constraints do Auto AI to determine which which features selectors are the most relevant to your outcome? And then due time series forecasting and again, you can do that.

    In the SPSS modeler in Watson Studio, or probably you’ll use a fancier library, like any number of the Python or our libraries to really kick it up a notch after that.

    The good news is within Watson Studio all that even though those are separate pieces, pieces of that can then be pushed to Watson machine learning for production use cases.

    But it is, it’s this is not an easy project, but it is an interesting one, because you’re really talking about the heart of making great decisions using machine learning.

    So, good question.

    You’ve got follow up questions, please leave them in the comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: When To Start Charging?

    You Ask, I Answer: When To Start Charging?

    Brittany asks, “At what point do you stop doing work for someone and how do you tell them, sorry… love to, but I charge for that?!?!”

    This is a question that every consultant has had to answer at some point in their careers. There are some bad actors out there who will absolutely take advantage of you without hesitation; even regular employees face this in things like job interviews. There’s a two-part answer – watch the video for more.

    • Determine what you’re selling – the why, the what, or the how
    • Withhold the key pieces of the part you sell most/best – that’s your secret sauce, arcane knowledge relatively few people have
    • Let someone try it and as long as they’re not better than you, they’ll fail – and then they come back if they’re honest, and they don’t if they’re dishonest

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    In today’s episode Brittany asks, at what point do you stop doing work for someone as part of the sales process? Or the pitching process or even job seeking? And how do you tell them? Sorry, I’d love to do this, but I charge for that.

    This is a question that every consultant has had to answer at some point in their careers, usually fairly early on.

    There are sad to say there are some bad actors out there who will absolutely take advantage of you.

    Without hesitation or scruples, they see you as free free labor and your from their perspective if you are foolish enough to do the work for them and they feel entitled to it.

    Even regular employees face this.

    I have seen some egregious abuses of people in job interviews Where a company will open a job rec have a really really intensive exam in which they basically take all your ideas, and then they don’t hire anybody.

    And we of course, in the consulting world see this all the time is agencies.

    Agencies get pitch requests that are just outlandish.

    Other Stories in the news recently about one company that said give us your, your our five year plan as part of the pitch and a bunch of other things.

    So it is tricky.

    Now there is there is a two part answer to this.

    There’s there’s two ways to Well, there’s a way to deal with this that can help.

    First, you have to determine what is you are selling Are you selling there’s three things you could be selling right there’s the why the what and the how.

    Most of like for example, the the strategy consulting firms, the big shops like Accenture and Deloitte and stuff that They’re in many cases selling the why right? They’re there they’re brought in because of their bespoke reputation that brand to sell the Y on something like digital transformation.

    There’s nothing fancy like that.

    Most folks are selling a combination of the what and the how and is the what is the result and the How is how do you get to the result? For example, my company Trust Insights, we sell a lot of both and an even balance.

    We talked about this digital customer journey mapping Episode What what it is, and then our secret sauce way of selling how.

    So your first step is to figure out what it is that you’re selling.

    If you’re talking about something like Google Analytics, the why in the world is largely solved.

    It’s the how.

    Second, you have to withhold the key pieces of the part that you sell the most that you sell the best.

    What is your secret sauce, the arcane knowledge that relatively few people Have that makes you different, right? Because if you withhold that, here’s what happens if you would hold that secret piece of information, but you you tell somebody where it is they’re going, it’s like telling somebody where they’re going, but not giving them directions on how to get there.

    And if your knowledge is specialized enough, what will happen is they will go and try it, right? They may go, she may go and try it.

    And then they realize, I don’t know how to do this.

    And they’ll fall down.

    That’s when they realize, Oh, I should have hired Brittany.

    You know, and they and the honest folks will come back they’ll say, Hey, you know, I loved your input.

    Last time I tried it didn’t work.

    What am I doing wrong? Right.

    The dishonest people don’t come back and you don’t want them to.

    So practical example.

    Out of the box.

    There are some customizations that Everybody has to do to Google Analytics in order to make it work really well is one in particular, like your social media channels out of the box of Google Analytics just flat out wrong and they stay wrong.

    You have to know the specific set of tweaks you need to make in order to make it correct so that you can give proper credit to your social media efforts.

    Now, if you know how to do that, if you know that little secret, that’s actually not little secrets a long one.

    You can then say to somebody, hey, Google Analytics is the best system for doing your social media attribution, you need to do customization to it to make it work, right.

    I just told you the why and the what, I haven’t told you the how, and you may you may go and tinker with it and then say I, I still can’t figure out how to fix the problem of Facebook being counted as referral traffic.

    Right, as long as as long as the person you’re interacting with as long as their knowledge is less than yours.

    On Google Analytics, they won’t be able to do it.

    There’s an expression from Tom Clancy, the author Tom Clancy, do the canary trap, you intentionally either withhold something which is what I do, or you give out something that’s intentionally wrong.

    different things to different people to see who breaks or who copies your content even.

    You can tell telltale signs that somebody is not being honest with you up front.

    So that’s how I would approach that is determine what you’re selling the why the what the how, and then determine the key pieces of information that you can withhold.

    That still doesn’t diminish your expertise or your value in that person’s mind.

    And that will identify who is who’s trying to take advantage of you versus who said, you know, maybe had a legitimate will go and give it a go and then oh, You can’t do that.

    And then they come back and hire you.

    And at that point, you know, they tried and at that point, you might even be able to charge more.

    Because they made it their best effort.

    And now they know how hard it is to do what it is that you’re selling.

    So, give that a shot is been a very successful formula for me over the years.

    And hopefully it succeeds to you.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Visualizing Qualitative Data in Dashboards?

    You Ask, I Answer: Visualizing Qualitative Data in Dashboards?

    At my MPB2B talk this week, one of the attendees (I didn’t get their name) asked, “What are your suggestions for visualizing qualitative data in dashboards?”

    First, you can render some of it as-is; in text, for example, one of the most popular and least helpful visualizations is the word cloud. Second, all qualitative data has metadata, and much of that is quantitative, so determine which metadata points make the most sense, such as number of records (counts), language data for text, descriptive data for images, etc. If you need to display qualitative metadata, make sure it’s relevant to the purpose of the dashboard.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Visualizing Qualitative Data in Dashboards?

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    back from the road in today’s episode at my marketingprofs VW forum talk this week one of the attendees who I apologize didn’t catch their name, asked, what are your suggestions for visualizing qualitative data in dashboards non numerical data.

    And there’s two answers to this one.

    You can render some qualitative data as is.

    In text for example, one of the most popular and personally I think the least helpful visualizations for text is the word cloud.

    everyone’s familiar with it, people love it and make like love making little shapes like tea pot and stuff like that, but not super helpful, but it is that is one example of ways that you can use qualitative data.

    More important is that almost all qualitative data can can be rendered quantitatively the all qualitative data has metadata or data about the data.

    And again, that’s almost all quantitative.

    So determining which data metadata points makes sense.

    And then rendering those.

    Let’s say, for example, you download an extract 100 tweets, right? a tweet is a string of unstructured text data.

    It is qualitative in nature.

    So what can you extract from that? Well, you can extract for example, the word counts from each the number of records, it’s 100 of them, obviously, for example, is there a link shared and yes or no? How many tweets have links in them? Is there a picture or other form of media attached? Yes or no? How many of that is there? If you have access to natural language processing tools, you can look at something like how? What’s the tone or the sentiment or the emotion in the text? What are the parts of speech in text how many nouns how many verbs have many adjectives If there are rich forms of media like audio or video images, again, using machine learning technology, you can make some determination like this is a picture of people was a video of, you know, coffee cups or something like that.

    But you also have descriptors about those media types, how large is it? How long is it? How, what’s the screen size? With a lot of especially marketing data, you will get usage data is especially true of things like YouTube, YouTube will tell you how, what percentage of the video hasn’t been watched.

    So from any given individual piece of qualitative data, you can extract all this metadata and then those if you think about having a spreadsheet, the tweets are in the first column, and then you have additional columns for each of these numbers.

    Those are things that you can visualize as is, or you can start to do computation on those.

    So what is the average number of verbs used in tweets? What does the AI average length of this this collection of tweets.

    Were using tweets as the example of any qualitative data customer service calls, letters to the editor, whatever it is, anything is not numbers.

    So you can do the averages you can and then you can take those numbers and do even more computation standard and exploratory data analysis is breaking the core tiles.

    What’s the mean? What’s the median? What’s the standard deviation? What’s the some? What if you want to get super fancy, you can start doing things like logarithms on them to change scales, you can scale the data can normalize all your columns on zero to 100.

    So there’s a there’s different ways to transform all of these metadata aspects of your qualitative data.

    And then you visualize that.

    Here’s the problem.

    If you just do all that visualization, you’re gonna end up with like 75 or 100 different columns.

    One One of the things that you have to look at is what makes sense to visualize what are the things that are actually relevant.

    And this goes back to another section of the talk talking about KPI mapping.

    You have all these numbers, which ones correspond to actual things of value.

    Right? So there’s a technique.

    Well, there’s many, many techniques.

    But if you think about just doing what’s called multiple regression, where if you have this spreadsheet of 100 numbers now, and you have some kind of outcome that you want, like number of clicks on the link, for example, if if we’re talking to this example, pile of tweets, you can use statistical software or machine learning software to say what combination of all these columns 123 510 what combination of these columns in which columns have the highest mathematical relationship to the outcome that we actually care about? This is essentially supervised learning.

    And if it turns out it’s, you know, tweets that use more verbs or tweets that are longer, or tweets that have an image attached.

    Doing that kind of analysis will give you that correlation.

    These that column seem to have the highest mathematic relationship in combination.

    So to the outcome that you care about, like clicks, then you run a testing plan to see if it is in fact, using more verbs gets you more clicks, you have that insight from a testing plan, testing a hypothesis.

    And after that, that’s what goes on the dashboard.

    You would say, okay, we know clicks is important.

    Put that on dashboard.

    And we know the number of verbs use has the strongest likelihood of impact and that’s we’ll put that on the dashboard to anytime what you doing visualization of a KPI.

    It’s generally good.

    Do the KPI and then do the one or two or three variables that have the highest mathematical relationship to that KPI somewhere else near That on the dashboard so that people can see, that’s what happened.

    This is why they can see they can see the big number and then they can see all the little numbers that contributed to it, but only the ones that have that mathematical relationship.

    So that’s, that’s the catch with this approach.

    If you wanted to go all out, you could have a very, very cluttered dashboard very quickly.

    And that completely defeats the point of the dashboard.

    If you would like the entire session, the entire marketingprofs session, which was on building better dashboards, I’m going to put a link in the comments in the show notes below.

    Go and click on that link.

    And you can watch the video you get the transcript, listen to the audio and get some links to some dashboard templates.

    So the link is below.

    But it was a really good question again to the person who was in the session.

    Thank you for asking it.

    Hopefully this provides even more context.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Discarding B2C Email Addresses in B2B Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Discarding B2C Email Addresses in B2B Marketing?

    Dennis asks, “I’ve been disqualifying and discarding consumer email addresses like GMail and Hotmail in my marketing automation system. Is this a best practice?”

    In a word: no. The reason your prospects do so is probably because they can’t receive certain kinds of emails and attachments at work. Meet them where they are and accept the emails, qualifying them on other, more relevant factors.

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    In today’s episode, one of the folks yesterday at the breakfast analytics roundtable siloed said, I think his name was Dennis as b2b marketers, I’ve been disqualifying leads in our, our marketing automation system because they have like a Gmail or hotmail address.

    Is that an okay thing to do? I said, No, not anymore.

    Maybe that was true five years ago.

    But if you look at people’s behavior, and how they, how they do stuff, that’s not the way the world works anymore, especially in b2b and here’s why.

    If you have a white paper, a webinar and ebook, a download an infographic, something on your website, and you have customers who are in any b2b company any, any larger company period that uses things like Barracuda, which is a firewall, a hardware firewall on the network or so in the more restrictive antivirus, software packages.

    People who work there know, they may not ever get your email, and then they’re like, Oh, yeah, our firewall blocks all emails have any kind of attachment to it.

    So what are those people do naturally, they put in an email address that they know can get the download the PDF, the whatever, and that’s a gmail address, a hotmail address, and AOL address.

    But whatever the address is, They know they can get their email there.

    So should you disqualify those people because they didn’t put in a work email? Oh, absolutely not.

    You can ask them later on, either just just outright or with something like a marketing automation system, the sports progressive profiling, where every time somebody visits a form, you ask them for just one more piece of data to build out their profile.

    But either way, I would not be throwing those email addresses away.

    In the end, does it matter? Does it matter that they have put in a gmail address as long as they read your email and they respond to you and they convert? shouldn’t matter at all.

    It should just be Hey, this is what works best for you.

    The customer use it.

    Now there are some folks will say well, if if you put in a hotmail address, then you can’t use the Fancy sophisticated account based marketing tools and all that stuff that will look at a work domain like Trust Insights, de AI and be able to pull data about that.

    That company’s firma graphics again, doesn’t matter.

    It makes it easier for software to do things in an automated fashion for sure.

    But at the end of the day, if that’s what works best for the customer, let the customer do it the way they want.

    Let the customer use their hotmail address they want to and if they’re if they are a legitimate prospect, and at some point you’re going to have a follow up, call or meeting or WebEx or whatever.

    And you’ll get that work email.

    It just doesn’t work.

    When you correspond them say, Hey, what’s the best email for me to stay in touch with you at work? And you’ll get it.

    The challenge though, is that marketers have Always been, but especially with a lot of data tools become very, very, very selfish.

    Like we want the data we want.

    We want things to work our way.

    If you’re good marketer, you should want the customer to be happy first, and work around the inconveniences from a data perspective so that the gospel remains happy.

    So that’s today’s episode, work with what people give you meet them where they are you you may have to do more work, but they will be happier and if they are happier, they are more likely to give you their money.

    So as always, please leave your comments in the comments box below.

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