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You Ask, I Answer: Hemp and CBD Marketing Strategies
Jeff asks, “What framework and strategies would you use to market hemp and CBD products?”

Due to the number of restrictions on this class of product, you’ll have to take an approach used by other drug manufacturers and pharmaceutical companies. There are three fundamental strategies you can use successfully. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode, Jeff asks, What framework and strategies would you use to market hemp and CBD products? Well, there’s a question I wasn’t expecting an answer today, up.

Due to the number there’s a there’s a ton of restrictions on this industry, right? Because it’s legality in various jurisdictions is different. It varies it in the here in the United States, it is illegal, technically the federal level.

And some of the products within that category are illegal, the federal level and then varying states and local municipalities have different restrictions on what you can and can’t do. I live in Massachusetts and and most of that class of product is fully legal within the state. Now, obviously, if you go and use these

Products try to fly with them through the airport, which is a federal property it’s going to be all kinds of messy. So

we, we should take a page from the pharmaceutical industry because pharmaceutical companies have extreme restrictions put on them, particularly unpaid advertising, which would be your normal go to if you were trying to attract

new audiences or awareness. So there’s there’s two fundamental ways you can do this. And you probably should do them both and do them in tandem. The first is basic brand building so you don’t market the product and hopefully your company name is his name something sensible and not obviously

promoting a a product that is illegal in parts of the country.

And you do a brand build just the way you would do a brand builder for any other product or service or company where you sponsor like the local pizza company where the local literally

field or whatever it is that you are, whatever, wherever it is that your customers will be spending their time and, and want the support of a company to help what they care about. So I, I know nothing about the CBD industry or its customers but if I were, for example, marketing a Coffee Company

What else do coffee drinkers do? Well, they all obviously there’s a lot of coffee in the world but

they you could sponsor you know, stretches a road and, and do various billboards promoting just the brand of the company. When you look at the way Starbucks markets itself, it sponsors musicians, why? Because it plays those musicians within the stores. And so that’s one avenue promoting the things that you know, your audience likes, so, you know, your audience wants part of their

other activities. The second strategy and the one that I think probably the most

Successful.

But the brand is still important is what we call them when we were doing pharmaceutical marketing, disease, state awareness. So you don’t market the drug or the outcome, you market the problem, hey, you’ve got this problem with stress you’ve got this problem with rheumatoid arthritis you’ve got this problem with lack of physical fitness, whatever the the disease state is, you build awareness and you build awareness of it and you build awareness of common solutions for it, but you never market the product directly. So instead you market

it. No Do you? Do you feel tired all the time? Do you sleep poorly? You may have whatever the disease name is. And then

now most pharmacy companies will just do the standard pitch to ask your doctor to learn more.

At least in the United States, pharmaceutical companies have even more different restrictions outside of the United States. But that disease state awareness is a pretty safe bet. That flies in many jurisdictions.

back a couple years ago, I was in Switzerland, which is the home of every major pharmaceutical company. And the folks I was talking to at the time, were saying, Yeah, this disease, state awareness flies in pretty much every jurisdiction because you’re not selling a product you are selling awareness you’re selling, helping the consumer understand what’s going on. You’re selling education, you’re selling training, you’re selling,

not self diagnosis, but you’re encouraging the consumers who may be eligible candidates for your pharmaceutical for your drug

To talk to a qualified medical expert for assistance now,

in an industry like hemp and CBD, you probably

Want to go the same route? You probably want to to encourage people do what problems do you have? And are there problems for which have or CBD products are ideally suited as sort of a, a known good outcome based on on solid medical science? If so, you build marketing campaigns around that. If fatigue or stress or arthritis are some of the things that you can help treat, and there’s and there’s scientific evidence to prove that I would assume you would have that. Then that’s, you build a lot of campaigns, you build videos, you build explainers, you build white papers, you build

interactive, so you do all the things you would do for any other disease, state awareness. Maybe you sponsor fundraisers, maybe you sponsor like, you know,

inflatable ride things at the local park, whatever it is that you have seen other pharmaceutical companies do very well.

From the perspective of getting gaining awareness of the problem and asking qualified medical professional for consultation on the problem, now adapt the strategy to the ecosystem in your market. Again, I don’t know the market so I can’t say who is or is not

qualified to be handing out products. But I have seen that, at least here in Massachusetts a lot of the medical dispensaries do have people who have at least some level of training and ability to to recommend certain products and and doctors are permitted to prescribe medical marijuana and other products to their patients to say like yes, this would be a good alternative to a more intensive painkiller. So that’s a you know, that’s probably the third thing is is, again, that’s something the pharmaceutical companies do very, very successfully. What are you doing for medical professional outreach to physicians to nurse practitioners to anyone who is

permitted to make any kind of prescription

by law? What are you doing to do outreach to them now in the old days, you know, companies to just go out and buy these people like cars.

There are a number of bribery and anticorruption laws now that restrict the types of gifts that you can give, and they are more or less than forced.

But in terms of outreach, there are a number of physicians who probably are not aware of the latest research, who are not aware of the findings by by validated companies or by academic researchers. You’d want to build an education and outreach campaign for those folks as well to let them know hey, this is another tool in your toolkit to help patients live better lives. So those the approaches I would take I would do the brand building to make sure that the company’s name is is prominent.

I would spend a lot the lion’s share of your budget on the Boise State awareness stuff. And then the medical professional outreach is sort of the the triumvirate of this type of marketing. And this is this would hold true for any kind of product where you have a lot of restrictions on what you’re allowed to pay to advertise or what you’re allowed to do from a, an outreach and communications.

Do these three things and you will be on the right side of the law and in compliance with what paid platforms like Google ads, for example will permit you to do so. Interesting question. Interesting question, Jeff. As always, if you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments below. And subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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April 16, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Personal Branding in 2019
Bruno asks, “What is your main advice to someone getting started on building a reputation and working on personal branding in 2019?”

Search is back on top of the pile when it comes to people finding us and driving traffic. Watch the video and take these 5 steps to build your personal brand and reputation in the modern era.
- Decide what you want to be known for
- Create things that reinforce what you want to be known for
  - A portfolio / case studies / book of business / golden rolodex
- Build your home base
- Build your outposts
- Advertise as necessary
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In today’s episode, Bruno asks, What is your main advice to someone getting started on building a reputation and working on personal branding? In 2019?

Oh, that’s a interesting one. So

let’s,

let’s set a definition first.

personal brand is just a fancy term for reputations. How does someone build a reputation in 2019? And the answer is, the same way that you build a reputation have,

since time I’m aware of which is be known for being good at something. That’s, that’s the fundamental underpinning of everything. If you are not good at anything, get good at something first, and then build a reputation around it. So we’re going to presume that you know what you’re good at.

Or you have decided what you want to be known for. And it’s okay for that to change. It is absolutely okay for that to pivot pick something that you have an aptitude for, that you enjoy doing, that you’re good at. And that is a skill or a focus or you capability that the market is willing to pay for.

So that’s number one. Number two, is you need to create stuff that reinforces what you want to be known for. So if you are a graphic designer, guess what you need a portfolio I mean, need an extensive one, even

if, you know even if you don’t, you haven’t done a ton of commercial gigs. Even if you haven’t had more than a few jobs.

You still need to have that, that demonstration of your capabilities.

And that can be all mockups that can be all comps that can be all

examples can be school work, but fundamentally you need to demonstrate your skills. If you are a strategist, guess what you need case studies. maybe don’t have any go make some right go volunteer to nonprofit, go volunteer at a local civic organization. But demonstrate your capabilities you know how to think you know what you’re doing. If you are a sales professional, and guess what, you better have a golden Rolodex, you better have a network.

And even someone who is relatively young, relatively Junior can be networking can be building their reputation can be putting together sales materials. So whatever

profession you’re in whatever

focus you have for a career and for reputation, you can you need to have that stuff.

where most people go wrong. As they reverse these two things. They go out and they build their home base in their social media outpost, set their Instagram channel and and

set up LinkedIn and go all

crazy building the outposts. But they don’t build the portfolio, you need to build a portfolio of stuff first, because it makes it much easier, easier to build your own personal website to build your social media channels and things. If you know what it is you want to share what you want to talk about.

If you do it in reverse order, you create a whole bunch of things, then you have to go back and rework it later. Or you create a bunch of stuff that’s substandard, and you make a terrible first impression. So get that portfolio in order. And, again, if

you don’t have a ton of experience, there is no shortage of organizations in this world that would love your help, for free, you’ll have to do you will have to work for free.

And the beginning to build that.

That book of business, whatever that looks like. Then

build your home base. And that is a website that is under your control that has a domain name that people can remember easily. So that you can direct people there to find things like a resume or CV or LinkedIn profile videos about you your blog.

You should plan on blogging.

Yes, it seems like a an archaic thing to do in the age of Instagram and the and the selfie, but in terms of being able to prove that you are a capable communicator, which is an essential skill, regardless of profession these days. And in order to help search engines find you, and and especially if you have a name that is somewhat unique, you

need to have that that home base on the internet. And that is

powered by a blog that is powered by relevant fresh, frequent

content. So plan on blogging, if you are early in your career, you probably have some free time to do it. If you don’t have,

for example, the major obligations that folks a little more gray hair to have like you know, family.

Yeah, and you just have a dog or whatever, you have the time to invest in yourself, build out that that blog, that weekly or monthly email newsletter, where you share stuff that is maybe not all yours, maybe it’s 8020 80%

other people’s stuff that you curate, and then you provide perspective on and 20% stuff that’s yours. Then you build your outposts, your social media, outposts, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, where that wherever it is that you think your audience is the people that you want to reach the people whose you want your reputation to proceed you to go where they are,

build those outposts share content on them, that helps

illustrate that you know what you’re talking about that you know who the players are any space. And if necessary, if it’s essential, you you may need to spend a few dollars, not many, but a few dollars on advertising your website or your blog to the relevant

managers or hiring managers or recruiters what the case may be, to build that reputation to build that awareness that you exist, and that you are available. And that you are worth talking to.

This takes time.

So if you are thinking about a career change,

or

you know it is April 2019, as I record this, you’re graduating in a couple of months, you kind of behind the eight ball level, you need to kick things up into gear, ideally,

you spend three or four months working on that, that portfolio building out the materials approval you are, let me spend a couple of months promoting it. So it is sort of a six month process. If you’re crunched on time. Still build those case studies, you’re just gonna have to spend

a little more time up front on yourself. So as much as

I personally don’t think that the the whole, you know, work 20 hour days and and sleep four hours a day thing. It’s that’s not a sustainable thing you can do in the long run. But if you are

if you know that like a company layoff is coming, or you know that you’re graduating soon, it wouldn’t hurt to burn the midnight oil a couple of times to bolster that book of business that you can show, hey, here’s

what I’m good at. And then start promoting that. So a good question, a tough question. There’s a lot that goes into this. And there’s a lot of time and care that you have to

put into it and invest in yourself. And that is the part that I think is the most important. When you’re building your reputation, your personal brand, it is an investment in yourself and just for the long term.

You absolutely can pivot and change what you’re known for, but it takes time. It takes a long time I used to be known as the podcasting person or one of the podcasting people back in 2005. I pivoted to analytics in 2009. I pivoted to data science and machine learning and in 2014 2015,

so there’s it takes time to change these reputations. Make logical flows from one to the next. So it’s not something that happens overnight.

Be ready to invest in yourself. You lead follow up questions in the comments below. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.

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April 15, 2019
Friday Foodblogging: How to Make Better Hotel Coffee In Your Room
Today’s topic is usually a culinary joke: hotel coffee. Almost every business traveler has had the same complaints about hotel coffee in the room. Bitter. Weak. Tasteless. Awful. Yet we struggle with it out of need, sometimes even desperation. Is there a better way to make hotel room coffee? Watch the video to learn more:

Friday Foodblogging : How to Make Hotel Room Coffee
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Consider the process of making coffee, the culinary chemistry behind our magical elixir of life.The packets of coffee in our hotel rooms aren’t necessarily all that bad. They may not be gourmet coffee, but at least they’re sealed against air and light, two forces which degrade coffee over time. Coffee needs three critical factors to work well: time to brew, water close to boiling temperature, and sufficient quantity of coffee grinds.

The reason hotel room coffee is terrible is because hotel coffee makers fail at all three. Can we save our coffee and ourselves? Perhaps. Let’s dig into each of these factors.

Sufficient Grinds

When we brew coffee, if we brew with too few grinds, we overextract it. Coffee contains lots of soluble compounds, and we want as many of the tasty ones as possible with as few of the bitter ones as possible. Too few grinds in the water means we get both sets of compounds. To remedy this, ask the hotel for an additional packet of coffee. If they say no, or they ask for an obscene amount of money, then place both the regular packet and decaf packet in the brewer if it’s a carafe-style basket brewer. If it’s a pod-based brewer with teabag-sized coffee packets, place the extra packet in the bottom of the cup as you brew.

Time to Brew

Great coffee typically takes between 3-5 minutes to steep for a good cup. How quickly does the average hotel coffee maker make coffee? About 30 seconds. The reason for this relates to factor one: there’s usually not enough coffee provided to make a good, solid cup, so the brew time is shorter to keep the coffee from becoming bitter. What we end up with, however, is weak coffee. To deal with this, after brewing, remove the packet of coffee from the brewer and put it in your cup to steep for another minute or two, like a teabag.

Afterward, use the stirrers like a pair of chopsticks to drain and remove the packets.

Boiling Water

Great coffee comes from nearly boiling water. A good coffeemaker brings water to about 200 Fahrenheit, 93.3 Celsius. At this temperature, all the desirable volatile compounds in the coffee dissolve, and we enjoy a full-bodied cup of coffee.

The little hotel room coffeemakers will raise the temperature of water by about 100 or so degrees Fahrenheit, or 37 Celsius. If we follow the directions and put cold tap water into the coffeemaker – which averages around 65-70F, 18-21C – we will end up with hot, but not near boiling water, and our coffee will brew poorly.

The trick? Ignore the instructions and start with the hottest tap water our hotel room faucet is capable of generating, which will be around 120F or 49C.

By starting hot, our little coffeemaker can bring the water the rest of the way to boiling. We will brew our coffee at the correct temperature, and end up with a much better cup.

Pro Tip: Some Hotel Coffee Needs Salt

Finally, some hotel coffees simply aren’t good. Many hotels source a reasonably good brand name of coffee, but occasionally we’ll end up at a hotel where the coffee is literally brandless generic coffee of questionable quality. Even this coffee can be improved a little. Be sure to snag a few single-serving salt packets in your travels and carry them with you.

Just a slight pinch of salt – a quarter of a packet or less – can be enough to mellow out a bitter cup of coffee. Salt partially blocks the neuro-receptors on our tongues which detect bitterness, helping the hotel coffee to taste more like coffee should.

Super Pro Tip: Vegas Coffee

One final tip for the business traveler: a few cities, most notably Las Vegas, have the indecency to not provide any coffee whatsoever. Vegas does this because they want us to buy coffee at the hotel coffee shop, conveniently located on the casino floor. To manage this affront to civilized life, consider carrying your own single-serving of a good instant coffee. While at first blush “good instant coffee” seems like an oxymoron, I’ve found a few brands which will make a decent cup. It’s not as good as a brewed cup, but it’s better than $9 for a cup on the casino floor.

If you like the flavor profile of Starbucks, Starbucks VIA is a handy traveling companion. I find it to be fairly pricey for not that good a cup, but that’s my personal preference.

If you like a less heady roast, Douwe Egberts makes an excellent instant coffee, as good as instant can be. I was introduced to this brand when I traveled to the UK and found that hotel rooms there have electric kettles, but no brewers. Apparently, drip coffeemakers are largely an American thing. The rest of the world just uses kettles.

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April 12, 2019
ContentTech Summit 2019 Day 2 Recap
In this episode, I recap some of the memorable moments from Day 2 of ContentTech Summit, from what to ask sales people to criteria for vendor selection to what Henry Rollins thinks. Watch the video for a deeper dive.

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In today’s episode, we recap day two of the content Tech Summit, which was the final day of the event. It started off with Carmen Simon from MC, who was going through a lot of the the neuroscience of very similar to a lot of Roger, Julie’s work out really good presentation in the sense that she did a really good job, I thought it dispelling some of the myths and misconceptions and popular concepts about memory and how the brain works. from a marketing perspective, her big thing is that, from birth, actions we take come from, in many ways, from memory from the memories that we build. And from simple things like an hour, that’s a hot stove, don’t touch that to all the pressure senses, we have to. And that attention is the gateway to remember, if you don’t have somebody’s attention, they can’t form memories. And she emphasizes by just having people remember that their experiences with brands and things, if you if your your brand is memorable, you will get more consideration, she did a really good layout of breaking out of the four types of attention can get so there’s attention. Big that comes from either internal external focus and initiated by the personal initiated by the environment. And there are ways that you can control or a catch people’s attention in each of those categories. So are the things such as guided actions, or introspection or visual search, things that take advantage of the waste people’s brains work, what I thought was fascinating was the concept of interference, the idea that if your content or your brand or whatever is too similar to somebody else’s, you won’t be remembered, because there’s too much cognitive interference. So style and tone, logos, identity, and language, especially language, the language that you use, is really, really important. One of the, one of the tests that I remember we used to do in the old agency days, was to take a client’s campaign, our mission statement, whatever and do that and delete all the names. And you know, and swapping a competitor’s name and see if anyone could tell the difference, like what company was it? One of the key takeaways from that event was, she said, content is like a clothesline, if you put only your stuff on it and just cover the line of your stuff, there’s no room for customers or your audience to co create with you. So be able to try to leave room for the customer, user generated content, customer generated content, anything that’s interactive, is really important for for people to be able to be involved because as the more involved a customer is, the more memorable that customer. So that was fantastic. I went to a session on artificial intelligence, because I like to see what’s what other people are sharing. And I was very critical of the session. Because the speakers knowledge was not, not current, not up to date, which in some fields,

there are, in every field of human learning there is development. But in some fields like AI, you have to be dialed into what’s happening right now, because the the field changes so quickly. And what the technology is, is capable of is is changing even faster. So this one speaker was talking about how, for example, neural networks require massive amounts of data. That’s that’s not a

thing anymore,

you can use neural networks, even on very shallow sparse data sets. Now, if you have a good data science background, most of the time, you’ll find that yes, you can use a neural network for this task or that task, but it may not be the best choice, right, you can use a frying pan to make soup if all you have is firing pin, you can make soup in it. But it’s not going to be as good as if you’re using the actual soup pot. And so the same is true in AI machine learning. They eat every technique has tasks for which is well suited and tasks for which is not. So that was that was a little disappointed. But we’ll skip past that one. Allison were shown a hamster from run frontline education, did a great talk on multi touch attribution. It was interesting they they spent a lot of time on the marketing technology stack and and the difficulty of connecting gluing all the pieces together, I thought that was a lot of useful listen to their experiences of trying to get the system to talk to each other. And and they both said the same thing that I know, many folks in the market base upset over the years, which is if a vendor, look at the number choice for vendor selection criteria is look at the integrations that offers right that was their thing as what does it plug into mine has always been what data doesn’t like to export? How does it look better export it, the easier the company makes it to export data, the more trustworthy that vendor is a vendors like, no, we’re not gonna let you have your data. And that that means that

there’s something wrong, they’re there, they’re going to, they’re going to lock you in at some point.

Amy Higgins did a fun talk on using sales data to creating marketing content. And one of the things I thought the other insights and that session I thought was fun was she said, when you talk to sales professionals about what’s working, what’s not working for them, do not talk to them in a group, because you will run into all kinds of issues. Instead, do one on one interviews so that you get honest responses about what’s really working what’s not. And you don’t always, always get that in the group because of group dynamics. So that was a very useful takeaway. And then the day close out with

artist musician and writer, Henry Rollins, who talked at length about infusing efforts, all content marketing efforts, all communications efforts, with moral goodness. And he talked about a lot a lot of the experiences he had where he would publish something or write something,

and and the impact that it had in people’s lives, people would come up to him after shows and

tell him how his work, save them their life or meant a lot to their, their family, which is a very emotionally moving conversation. He made the very bold statement, which I completely believe is true that elections are no longer political processes. They are content driven processes, and that relatively few people have control of the truth. And that’s going to be one of the major challenges of the century century. I had a chance to ask him a question in the q amp. And I asked him about, you know, how do you differentiate the different types of good and he said it’s mostly commonality of purpose. If we can help people find that commonality of purpose. We can get them on the same page, we can get them a unified as opposed to

sort of the the tribalism that we’ve got going on right now. Overall, I was

pleasantly surprised to hear such an interesting talk that was on point and unbranded about content marketing from someone who does not

position themselves as a content marketer is more of an entertainer. So that was a you know, that was an interesting way to close up the the event but well worthwhile. Overall, this this event reminded me of the first year of martech before became the other giant beast that it is now and I love these sort of inaugural events we can get to sit in a room with a few hundred people I’ve been great about 450 at this event, and really get to know people really get to talk to people and really get to make solid connections which difficult to do it larger show so this is a wonderful first start for this event and I hope to see it succeed in the years to come. As always, if you have comments or questions, you can leave them in the below if you want a copy of my presentation video is actually up now if you go to where can I get the slides. com It will be up there for a little while. And as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving the problem these data analytics and digital marketing problems.

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April 11, 2019
ContentTech Summit 2019 Day 1 Recap
In today’s show, we look back on day 1 of the ContentTech Summit 2019 Day 1. From stats like the average value of an email address is $35 to 29% of companies spend more on technology than staff, the first day of ContentTech Summit (formerly the Intelligent Content Conference) had a lot to offer. Watch the video for all the key takeaways.

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In today’s episode, let’s talk about what we learned at content tech, the first full day after the

workshops day,

content deck, if you’re unfamiliar, is the show that used to be called the intelligent content conference. It was rebranded this year, and is about the technology surrounding content marketing. If you think about the martek conference, and how martech has changed so much content, tech is, is a

sliver of or a perspective on or a lens on many of those tools, but focused on of course, just the world of content marketing, which admittedly is still very large world.

But this is with a much more refined focus on just

all things content marketing. So

content advisory founder, Robert rose started off the event, looking at

what sort of the the State of the Union is for content marketing,

one interesting stat that he threw out that was

surprising in CMOS and CEOs they interviewed

about content marketing, 29% of the companies that they surveyed, are now spending more on technology, and they’re spending on human beings, which

you can take a couple of different ways. One there that does speak to companies being able to be more efficient with their money, and putting that money into the the systems and the processes of marketing.

But it also means that companies are spending a lot of money on vendors. And the question is,

are they getting a good return

of companies being able to get the

kind of a trend that they are looking for based on

on that kind of spend when you you’re spending more on the machines than other people and that’s, by the way, this is not going to be an uncommon thing. That number will go up.

When you look at Scott’s martech 5000 Scott Brinker, martek 5000 from the martek conference, which is now 77,040 companies. According to Robert, about 80% of them

are our content marketing related tools either other creation management, the deployment or the promotion of content. So there’s still a lot of overlap between those two worlds. Andy questions and then of course, did did his talk from also social media marketing will on basic and advanced analytics, which is always fun, really fun to listen to. Their obviously wasn’t a ton of new stuff, because it was literally just the the talk we’ve seen previously. But a couple of quotes, I thought were really funny.

One was the way there’s hope, where there’s traffic, there’s hope. Which means that as long as you’ve got the attention of the audience, and you can achieve your business objectives with it, it may not be exactly what you intend. But as long as you’ve got attention, you’re you you’ve got something to work with. And his big tip and the one I think is probably the most valuable for everybody is that

link your best cheese to your best mousetraps, meaning that if you do an assessment of the best converting pages, on your website, can you do an assessment of your best traffic generators or traffic attractors, where traffic is coming from?

Take two minutes a month to put you know, you might also be interested in links hard coded links if you have to, into your website to move traffic from where it’s coming in to where you want it to go. So is a incredibly obvious simple tip that probably none of us do.

Some of you may have content marketing systems, CMS is that do that for us. But even that I’m not entirely sure that that there are that many companies are doing that. So that’s that’s one that I’m certainly going to

deploy on the trust insights website and on my personal website, and something to think about to

Meg golden, talked about rebranding and the importance of the way we do content. And

she had a funny stat

Tropicana in 2009, rebranded itself,

they changed the logo from the you know, the orange with the straw sticking out of it, and their font into something much more upscale

it like a champagne glass of orange juice in it. And she said within five weeks, it was 50% of their market share and revenue.

And they very quickly readjusted, but

in what was the quote from

her talk, brand is pattern recognition. And if people, people don’t understand the pattern, they won’t know your brand. So your brand has to be a consistent pattern that tells people

who and what you are, and burns into their minds so that when they go to look for it, whether it’s on a grocery store shelf, or in an email or

Facebook group, whatever, wherever it is that you’re deploying your brand. Definitely,

that level of recognition is essential for to stick with people for people to go okay,

I recognize this, this is something that I want in my in my world.

Shortly thereafter,

a shiver. Male Hasani

gave a interesting, very process driven talk about how it does, its marketing, one of the more interesting stats out of that talk was that the average value of an email, at least in their world consumer or business,

it’s around $35 per valid email. So$

if you’re looking for a

very, very basic benchmark, value of viewer, email lists, that is a usable stat, you will still have to do that computation yourself use, you can do it with things like Google Analytics with goals and goal values. If somebody signs up for a newsletter

for mine, then

you can assign1 value to that or to other forms of business that that they participate in the afternoon kicked off with a panel on artificial intelligence was a panel on the contact technology in general, and it was with some of the vendors and

one of

the things it’s so challenging for people night I get this because it’s challenging for everybody is that

in order

to do do the best job you can, with things like AI, you need to stay current, you need to know exactly what’s happening in the market with all the different technologies, and that’s not a small task, it requires a ton of reading a ton of scanning a ton of paying attention, connecting with

with influential thought leaders and scientists and things within the AI community. And

it’s a full time job. So this panel, their belief was that natural language generation wouldn’t be usable by content marketers within, you know,

a decade, so maybe 10 years away, I don’t know, it’s you, it’s usable now. With open AI and GBT, who it’s usable now. It will get better over time, but it is not a decade away. Commercial implementations are probably a year away at most being able to crank out a million blog posts at

the touch of a button that are coherent, that are readable,

that are ok quality.

And of course, the systems will just get better as time goes on.

And finally, the last sessions I attended was Amanda told her which is from the Cleveland Clinic about prod product type your content marketing from a process perspective where your content marketing is a product, not a project. And she said it really useful. me my guess keep keep in mind. Projects are about getting things done products, again, things to people to eat for use. And if you focus on making a product that somebody can use, your content marketing will do much much better. So lots lots to digest from the show. Going back for round today speaking today on a I sit here at the show hope to see you in my session. If you’re not stay tuned to where can I get the slides calm for the materials. And as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s

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April 10, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Personal Brand?
Bruno asks, “What is the channel that most impacts your personal branding?”

That’s an interesting question and is contingent on a couple of things:
– How we measure our personal brands
– How we align that data with our channel data

The statistical technique you’d use to find the answer is something called driver analysis, which is a fancy term for multivariate regression analysis. Watch the video to find out how to measure your brand.

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In today’s episode, Bruno asks, What is the channel that most impacts your personal branding?

That’s an interesting question.

It’s going to

depend on a couple things. Number one, it’s going to depend on

how do you measure your personal brand? Or how do you measure any brand? And then to how do you align your channel data

with your,

with your personal brand data. So

to begin,

measuring a brand

is probably one of the most complex and difficult things you can do in marketing because

brand is in a Morpheus term, there are so many definitions of of what a brand is.

My personal favorite definition is by a comedian named a frank who says,

brand is the emotional aftertaste

of a series of experiences and he goes on the site. That’s why the term grandma’s cookies gives you a certain emotional

sense, but old people’s cookies, not as much, even though they’re synonymous terms.

There’s definitely a cognitive dissonance between the two.

So that’s a good example of brand. So what is your brand? What is your personal brand? I would, I would argue it’s the the

ability for you to be known. Mitch Joel has a great expression for this as well. It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.

And I think that’s a great starting point for the measurement of a personal brand.

It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.

So

you may have things like social media audiences, or email lists of things. But at the end of the day,

if no one remembers you, if no one knows who you are, if no one knows what you do, then

I would say that you have you don’t have a strong personal brand.

So how would you find that? How would you get that information, but easiest place would be

if you have a personal website, and you really should. These days,

if you

have a personal website that has Google Search Console setup,

what you would want to do is look in Google Search Console for branded organic search, which means people searching for you by name.

Now, if you have a common name, where you share a name with someone who’s famous, that can be tricky, believe me, I know there’s a a deceased actor who shares my name, and I’m still trying to outrank him and search and it’s been 12 years since he died. Sorry for the family. Still working on that.

But

using organic search data, branded organic search table data, the number of people who search for Christopher Penn

and and click

through to my website, because that clearly indicates that I was the person they were searching for, not the actor,

measuring that over time as a

great proxy for that

brand. And then long tail queries about your name too. So Christopher Penn

analytics Christopher Penn and data Christopher Penn and Google Analytics Christopher Penn and machine learning Christopher Penn and AI, those are all things that I

would want someone

to be searching for,

that are relevant to me that are relevant to what I do. So

think about

your own brand terms. What are the brand terms that

you have?

That you’d want to track? To see how, how are people finding me? How are people finding what I do.

So that’s part one,

is getting your branded search data together, your render organic search did together

to part two is alignment that data with your channel data, which means extracting out all of your

Twitter data, your Facebook data, wherever it is you’re posting your email marketing statistics, your LinkedIn stuff, your blog, and putting it all in a giant spreadsheet

with your branded organic search data as

sort of the outcome of the goal that you’re

after.

And you would run

something called driver analysis would you can learn a whole lot

more over if you watch any of the webinars, trust insights,

Ai, my company’s website, the whole bunch of things on predictive analytics, look for predictive analytics talks. But what you’re essentially doing this what’s called driver analysis, which is a fancy way of talking about multivariate regression analysis. And what you are

doing is trying to figure out

what combination of variables

like number of tweets per day or

new signups to your news letter, or

any of these things that you do, what of the of all things that you do have a relationship to branded organic search

have a mathematical relationship that you can then go and test so you find out that tweets on Tuesdays plus

emails longer than 1000 lines, that’s a really long email. But

if those combination of things really

seem to have a highest mathematical relationship with personal brand searches,

then you have the opportunity to go test that it’s okay. If tweets on Tuesdays is one of the things that that the analysis says is really important. Guess what I’m going to

double the tweet, the amount of tweeting I do on Tuesdays and see if the branded organic search number goes up by proportional amount.

So it

really is, you find the relationships, and then you test the relationships for causality. If If emails are the thing, tried doubling the number of emails for a short period of time does the amount of branded organic search and double

as well.

Make sure if possible in your calculations that you account for lag.

So knowing how long it takes for your brand to become known, if someone receives an email from you, how long does it take for them to search you?

That’s something that you can also compute within the data.

So that’s

the

answer to that question.

Your answer is going to be different than my answer. When you run this analysis, it is going to be very, very different. The way we do things what we do how we do all will vary. So there is no good answer that you could pick up from me and apply to your own marketing Do you have your own personal market just doesn’t work. You are a different person. You have

different

channels, you are effective in different places, and it’s not going to work

the same.

So keep that in mind.

So what channel most impacts my personal branding,

I don’t know I haven’t run the analysis yet. This will take some time. But that’s how to do it. That’s how to end the by the way this is same method

goes beyond personal brand it works for your company’s brand it works for your products or services and their brand. So

try this out with your own data

and see what answering you and your analytics teams come up

with.

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April 9, 2019
When Marketing Data is Counterintuitive?
Ryan asked at Social Media Marketing World for cases where data goes against intuition:

In the time since this post was written (2015), so much has changed. Data is more counterintuitive than ever. Why? We have so much more of it, and that complexity is what creates counterintuitive situations.

Intuition is, in many ways, our brain’s perception of correlation. When we see things happen together, we associate them together, and intuition is more or less our back-of-the-envelope calculation that things belong together.

What happens when we exceed our brains’ abilities to correlate at massive scale, or see interactions that involve many variables? We stop perceiving correlation. This is the situation marketers find themselves in more than ever.

Consider just some of the data you have access to:
- Web analytics data
- CRM data
- ERP/customer data
- Social media data
- Advertising data
- Public relations data
- Survey data
- Macroeconomic data
This list could go on for quite some time, and highlights just how overwhelmingly complex marketing data is today. If you consider even just two of the variables in this data gumbo, it would be difficult to see a correlation – such as the Baltic Dry Index (macroeconomic data) and customer lifetime value (ERP data).

Only the powers of machine computation can overcome this massive amount of data and find relationships among variables that we simply could not. How do different variables interact? What variables predict the outcome we care about?

Here’s a simple example: we’ve long said, as marketers, that obsessively counting the number of followers you have in social media is pointless vanity. We tell people to focus on real business metrics instead. However, in a recent Trust Insights client engagement, we built a machine learning model to calculate what variables predicted revenue and we were shocked to see social media audience size as one of the variables for this particular customer. Talk about counterintuitive!

Yet, when we used the exact same technique on a different customer, social media audience size dropped to be a completely irrelevant predictor of the business outcomes the customer cared about.

That’s the great challenge for marketers: not only is data counterintuitive, but what works for one company is almost certainly not likely to work for another company. Best practices are a great place to start (and certainly better than just making things up) but once you have enough data, only true analysis will help you take your marketing beyond the basics.

Disclosure: this post was written in 2015 and updated since then. It was completely rewritten in 2019.

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April 8, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Can Companies Automate Culture?
Alex asks, “Can you automate culture? Corporate culture and automation are two of the most prolific terms in the business lexicon, but what is their relationship?”

HJ Leavitt’s 1964 framework for people, process, and platform shows how these different areas interact. Culture is very much a people thing, while automation is a process and platform thing. If we look at the definition of culture – the customs, habits, traditions, social institutions, and achievements of a social group – there’s almost nothing there you’d want to automate.

Businesses tend to be bad already at fostering culture – it’s one of those things baked into your business DNA, guided by your values and how well people embody them – which is in turn driven by hiring and what people are held accountable for. You can certainly automate individual processes, but not the culture as a whole – and even there, beware. Automation will tend to get you more of what you already have. Watch the video for details.

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In today’s episode, Alex asks, Can you automate cultural

culture? corporate culture and automation are two of the most prolific terms in the business lexicon, but what is their relationship?

Um, can you automate culture know.

So here’s why.

In 1964, hJ love, it came up with a framework, the diamond of productivity, or something along those lines, I can’t remember the exact term. But that has since been distilled down by many, many expensive consulting firms into people process and technology, or people process and platform. The three P’s,

when you look at the intersection of those automation and culture live in different

sections of that diagram. So in fact, let’s bring up the lovely diagram.

People this who’s doing stuff, right, the people part is where culture lives.

When we talk about automation, we’re talking about the the integration of process and platform,

how you do stuff and what you do stuff with.

You can see there’s really very little overlap

between platform

and process. And people is that little section in the middle, which is, I guess, winning or general strategy, but for the most part,

the intersection of process platform doesn’t hardly touch people. What is culture? When if you look at the dictionary definition, which I like, let’s bring that up here.

The customs, habits, traditions, social institutions, and achievements of a social group.

There’s almost nothing there, you’d want to automate?

Not realistically, I can’t think of

anything at that macro level that you would want to have machines doing. I mean, can you imagine having machines automate weekly staff meeting if that’s a

if it’s a cultural institution at your company, or beer cart Friday having a robot driving around the beer cart that that would be efficient, but it would not be

very human. And and when we’re talking about culture, we’re talking about human stuff.

businesses in general already tend to be really bad at creating culture, it’s one of those things that happens I it’s kind of a nice overlap with the idea of culture as like bacteria, a bacterial cultures I’m lips grows, based on the environment, that it’s in

your culture, as a business is typically baked into your DNA as a company, it’s guided by your founders. It is guided by your values, the values that this founder set, and that the founders live. And it is guided by who you hire.

But and how you hold the people that you hire accountable for to and for those values. That’s the short definition of culture. And there’s not much you can automate at that macro level, you can absolutely automate individual processes, but not the culture as a whole. And even there, even though you’ve got to be careful. automation, by definition, is making what you already have work better or faster, right. So it tends to get you more of what you already have. Which means that if you have a bad culture,

you’re going to automate pieces of it like you know, parts of the hiring process that will get you what you already have, but more of it pastor.

A really good example of of where this went awry, last year was Amazon got itself into a whole bunch of hot water because they train the machine learning system and artificial intelligence system to

extensively speed up the hiring process. And they fed it a whole bunch of training data and said, I want you to take these pilot 500 resumes and give me the five people that I should call. And to no one’s surprise, except there’s apparently, it didn’t select any women. Why? Well, because all the training data they fed to it was heavily biased against women. So of course, the automation is going to get them more what they already have.

No one said, from a diversity perspective, hey, we may need to make sure this is gender balanced or ethnicity balanced or sexual orientation balanced or any of those things, it was not part of the computation, it was just a sort of almost blind automation, which is really, really bad. So automation will get you more of what you already have. If you’re not happy with what you already have, then automation is not going to be the answer for

creating or or pitch the culture cultures, cultures, a lot like a battleship, right takes a long time to change, it takes a long time to turn to go into new directions.

Even at small organization, it takes time. At our company trust insights, you know, we added one person, one person, one headcount in 2018.

And that changed the culture and the dynamics among the three of us, but not substantially, right, it took a while for us to be a slightly different company. And now. And part of that’s because when you have things like values,

you want to make sure that everyone adheres to those values. And so unless you’re radically changing your values, and not going to radically change your culture, particularly if you

if those values are are very people based things like here’s what we believe are here’s what we will not do.

So,

can you automate culture? No, I don’t think so. Hey, you can automate individual processes, but funding mentally, culture is a

human, human centric function in the company. And you can create opportunities for people to express that culture in new ways.

But it is it is human first and foremost, it’s not something that the machine is going to do. And it’s not something you want the machines doing, at least not right now. Maybe has our technologies that natural language generation and our ability to get better at natural language recognition improve. We will see more thing more opportunities for machines to work with us.

But not soon.

Great question. super interesting question because,

yeah, it is a heavily overused term,

but they dine at separate tables for now. all bets are off for the future. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

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April 5, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Google Ads Performance to Amazon?
Clarissa asks, “Question: I publish a book and set up a series of ads using Google Ad Words and the link goes to the Amazon Page. How do I set up tight tracking for the success of the ads, where success = book sales?”

This is a challenging situation because Amazon gives you very limited analytics. There are a few ways you can handle this kind of tracking. You will need the assistance of a programmer to do this – it’s not something that’s possible with off the shelf tools. Watch the video for full details.
- Build a model of clicks to sales – what percentage of clicks turn into sales?
- Set up a value per click and make that click a goal in GA
- Set up a script that redirects users to Amazon after counting the click and sending it to GA via the Measurement Protocol
- Send the conversion / ad conversion data back to Google Ads through Measurement Protocol and postbacks
- Set up bit.ly to validate clicks
- Set up Amazon Associates to track clicks
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In today’s episode, Clarissa asks question, I publish a book and set up a series of ads using Google AdWords and the link goes to the Amazon page. How do I set up tight tracking for the success of the ads or success equals book sales? Oh, this is a challenging situation for a couple reasons. One, you don’t own amazon.com and therefore you can’t put tracking links on Amazon itself. And Amazon gives you as a as an author gives you very limited analytics, right? If you’re in the Katie portal, which is where I assume you are Kindle Direct Publishing,

you’re going to get roll up numbers, not great granular numbers. So how do you track a situation like this? Well, the answer is going to be a series of technology pieces that will help you

value, what a click is worth, essentially. So the first thing you need to do is build a model of clicks to sell. So you’ll need to put together a spreadsheet of how many clicks, and then how many sales. And you’ll use the Katie p data for that for a lot of that information. Now, the second thing is going to be in your Google Analytics account, you’re going to set up a value per click and make that click a goal. So you’ll set up in in your goals, your clicks to Amazon as a goal, we’re going to pencil in a value per click. Now you can do that based on the spreadsheet data you’ve already put together. If you’ve got if your books, for example, our costs, say $1. And it takes hundred clicks to sell one book that obviously a click is worth a penny, right? That goes into Google Analytics as a as a value for your goal completion.$

Now that’s

the easiest part. Here’s where it gets messy. You’re going to need

the help of a programmer to create a script that lives on your website. And what that script is going to do is it’s going to redirect users from the link on your website like Christopher s pen.com, slash book, write that script, or redirect users to your Amazon page.

You will use that script in all of your Google AdWords ads. So all your ads will be you know, Christopher S Pen, comm slash book.

And it will send people to the Amazon page. But in that script, and this is what your program is going to have to help with. In that script. There is a way to send, essentially click data directly into Google Analytics without loading a web page. It’s something called the Google measurement protocol. And it is a very powerful system that Google Analytics has that allows you to to directly interact with Google Analytics with its API and poor data straight into it again without seeing a web page. So the script

will

intercept it will take that click that you get from your ads, it will send it to Google Analytics. And by the way, if you’re using

in that script, you’re going to specify all the UTM tracking tags, you know, you source medium campaign, all those things, that’s going to go into Google Analytics as well.

And then it will bounce the user to Amazon. Now my suggestion would be to actually have the script. This is going to get convoluted, but had bounced a Bitly. To have it bounced to Amazon. And the reason for that is you want

essentially three layers of tracking you want the your Google Analytics, click tracking Bitly click tracking, and then Amazon click tracking and here’s yet another layer of abstraction. You will want to look at setting up an Amazon Associates account which is their affiliate program, which will allow you to create a trackable link to that to your books page. And by the way, it will give you like an extra 1% Commission on a new book sales. It’s a good way for authors to make

tiny amount of incremental money because like if somebody is on Amazon and they buy your book, and then they go and buy a frying pan at the same time you get you get credit for the frying pan purchase and you get like an extra one to 4% on the purchase the frying pan as well.

So we now have a script that is essentially four layers deep. What it will do is to click comes in and tells Google Analytics Hey, his conversion happened. This click event happens send it to the Google measurement protocol. It will then send bills then say okay now user automatically go to Billy Billy will go to your Amazon Associates Link. And the Amazon Associates will finally send it to your book page.

This will help you establish the value of

that that those users that you send which can help in some ways. inflate your book price value a little bit because if people only buy your book cool, we like that. And Katie p will

will give you that, but associates will give you very granular hour by hour tracking of exactly what people bought. So you can get much better, more granular data for building that, you know, what is the value of a click model. So

to sum up, you need to build the model first, what percentage of clicks terms of sales and by the way, you’re going to revisit that going to return that. You’ll then set up the value per click and make that clear goal and Google Analytics. They’ll set up the script with programmers help to do that for way we direct and the more requiring associates count a Bitly account a Google Analytics captain, of course, your Amazon account, your Amazon book page, and then you’ll be able to track this once it’s all done, you’ll track it inside of Google Analytics, you’ll be able to see as a goal number of clicks sent to Amazon and the estimated value. And that will be a proxy for the book sales themselves. The reason you would do this crazy convoluted thing is that you can also in when you interact with Google Analytics, the Google Analytics measurement protocol

You can signal AdWords conversion data with what’s called post back. And again, this is something that your programmer is going to have to this is not something that you can do is use while you can do does use if you learn how to program.

But you’d want to send you that post back or that add conversion data back through the measurement protocol, tell AdWords Hey, conversion happens this ad is working.

Once the script is built, you could actually set up multiple versions of it for different types of ads if you wanted to build a track the performance of different kinds of ads like search ads versus display, ads vs. Video, YouTube video ads, the hard part really building that script the first time around. So

it’s probably not the easy answer you’re looking for. But it is most definitely the best way to get the correct data. And to turn that data into something that’s actionable and usable. Because by using that script, you’ll be able to track the different performance of all your ads show up in Google Analytics as value

And show the economic value. So again, if you if 1% of your clicks turn into book sales in your books worth1, then click is worth a penny. And if you drive 1000 clicks, guess what, you know, you’ve made $10 based on the likely performance of this ads, revisit that formula every I Gosh, depends on how important it is to you. If you’re if the book is incidental, meaning you just wrote the book and it’s out there, you may revisit that formula and adjust those numbers every 30 days or so. If being an author is your lifeline is your life hood, then you probably want to do it maybe every week even really analyze the data. So good question, challenging question. There are technological answers to do it. You will just need the help of a programmer to pull it off. As always, if you have additional questions, put them in the comments. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel. The newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analysts

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April 4, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How to Monetize Followers?
Neha asks, “You have a large number of followers on LinkedIn. How do you monetize them? I am looking for ideas to monetize my followers.”

Two rules to keep in mind:
- Gary Vaynerchuk: When you give, give. When you sell, sell. Don’t mix the two.
- Chris Brogan: Any opportunity to be helpful is an opportunity to do business.
These two rules will help you decide how to create and trade value with your audience – and that’s a key turn of phrase. If you want your social media efforts to create long-term value, you have to trade value with them – and the value equation will be tilted in their favor most of the time.
- What do you have to sell?
- Does your audience want it?
- What do you have to give?
- How does what you give align with what you sell?
- Sell infrequently, give frequently.
- Manage your audience in a platform you own – like email. Get your audience off rented land as quickly as possible.
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In today’s episode Neha asks, you have a large number of followers on LinkedIn, how do you monetize them? I’m looking for ideas to monetize my followers. Okay, so

a couple of things. There are two rules that I would strongly suggest that you adhere to when it comes to the monetization of social media audience. Rule number one comes from Gary van der Chuck, right? Who says when you give, give, when you sell, sell, don’t mix the two don’t do a little bit of each are trying to sneak things and just give value when you give it unreservedly. And when you sell, let people know hey, I am selling and and you will probably get better results because it will be clear what your intentions are and if you’ve given enough value

You should be able to sell into it. Second Rule is from my friend Chris Brogan. any opportunity to be helpful is an opportunity to do business. So when you are giving and when you’re creating value, look at those as a way of market research when people are asking you questions about what it is you do and how you do it or problems that they have guess what that is the market telling you this is what people value this is what people want you to do. This is something that I certainly am you know, looking at with with the company with my company trust insights.

What is it that people need help with? Is not things like artificial intelligence right now because that is predicated on so many things, so many precursors that people need help with those first, so certainly a lesson I have learned recently.

Now these two rules will help you

Decide how to create and trade value with your audience. And that I think is probably the most important turn of phrase.

You are not monetizing your followers do not monetize your followers. Because they are not a passive resource that you can simply farm like, you know, get out the Reagan and start. I clearly don’t do a lot of farming because you don’t use a rake all that often.

You’re not monetizing. You’re not extracting a resource from a passive thing and not drilling an oil well.

Your audience is composed of other people, and if you want those people to give you value, you have to give them value in return. And it’s called this I forget who came up with that. Thank you as the business networking group, it’s called givers gain you have to give first you have to be giving

Value first in order to earn the right to trade value with your audience. And even when you have earned that right, you still have to trade value and you still have to give more value than you receive most of the time. The value equation will be tilted in your audience’s favor most of the time if you want long term value. Now, if you’re just trying to make a quick buck,

then yeah, you can do some some pretty straightforward things that will give you a few dollars very quickly. But then you’ll burn that connection with your audience. And your audience will not be around if you are trying to.

If you’re trying to build a community

for the long term, then you have to think in terms of trade. So what do you have to sell?

Does your audience want what you have to sell? Right? Those are two really important questions. If your audience doesn’t want what you’re selling, then you’re not going to be able to trade value with them won’t happen. I can be selling a skunk flavored coffee all our audience doesn’t want skunk flavored.

Coffee, no amount of value I give is going to create a long term trade benefit trade relationship.

Second, what do you have to give? What values you have to give? And how well does it align with what you have to sell?

If I am, over here talking about, say, email marketing,

and

my company’s products and services are not email marketing related that I can give all the value I want, but it’s not going to result in economic value. But back to the company. I had this happen a number years ago, when I worked in financial services. I was sharing a tremendous amount of information and ideas and things about podcasting. This is back in the the goal, the first golden age of podcasting, I guess you could call it.

And

I worked with a financial services company that that they especially was not podcasting. Right. The specialty was student loans and financial aid. And so

what I had to give

not aligned with what we sold and so there was not enough value created. So what do you have to give what you have to sell are they aligned?

Your general rule of thumb is just like social media you know curation and and sharing, it’s at 20 give 80% of the time 20% of the time,

sell, so give frequently sell infrequently. And the most important thing you can do by far is

as quickly as possible by exchanging a lot of value, get your audience off, rented land, get your audience away from platforms you don’t own. So your Facebook page for example, you don’t own it and you have no control over what somebody sees. As a result, it will get harder and harder to extract value from Facebook itself right? I same is true of Instagram. The same is true of LinkedIn. These are great places to to meet new people, but then you need to get them to something you own like an email list like a slack and

You like some private forums some place where

there is no algorithm throttling what people see. And you have the ability to reach out to people as you need it for those infrequent times when you are going to ask to trade value, right? You’re going to give, give, give and occasionally asked to trade. For example,

I run a I help run a slack community analytics for marketers. We want you to come there, because there’s no algorithm blocking you. And in return,

we give away lots of stuff in the community. Like last night, I posted the thank you pages for two talks we recently published so you don’t have to go fill out a form anymore because you have your email, right? You don’t have to go fill out forms and jump through hoops, you can go straight to the good stuff. So

there’s a value proposition even in that we know that you’re valuable. We know that you’re important and we know that you’ve taken time and effort to go to this community.

This separate from what you spend most your time like on Facebook and stuff. And so

how do we give value by giving you shortcuts and, and and things that are not available to the general public?

So, the short version of a very complex question is, think about trading value, give more than you take, give a lot more than you take and get people to channels you own your email list and your your text, your mobile number, text list. Those are invaluable resources, you own them, no one can take them away from you. No one can suppress the pieces of content you send once you get beyond basic deliver ability and you know, prove that you’re not a spammer. You

have the ability to reach out to people and give them value, but also trade value with them. So make sure that you are doing that.

Email is is

As an Hanley says, it’s the Oh gee of social networks, but it’s also one of the few assets under your control that you truly own. I lost you don’t pay your bills to your your email service provider. But But yeah, you want to make sure that you own that. So those are some guidelines for the monetization of social media networks, and trading value with your audience. But please stop thinking about monetizing followers and start thinking about trading value with and what can you trade that is aligned with what your company does that in the long term will help you build the best, most sustainable strategy. And if you are so inclined, please subscribe to my YouTube channel and join the newsletter. Join the newsletter and join our slack group where we give lots of stuff all the time and have some fun discussions alongside so thanks for watching. I’ll talk to you soon. want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today

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