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You Ask, I Answer: How to Benchmark Marketing Performance?
Andrew asks, “How do you know what to benchmark against?”

This is a great and complex question to answer. Benchmarking effectively means having insights into competitive data and very often, competitors don’t necessarily want to share that kind of data for obvious reasons. There are five places we can benchmark in digital marketing data.
– Google Analytics benchmarking
– Search data
– Social media benchmarking for public metrics
– Surveys and qualitative data
– Market research and published data

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In today’s episode, Andrew asks, How do you know what to benchmark against? This is a great question. It’s a complicated question because we want to understand how we’re doing versus our competitors. That requires having access to our competitors data, which, for obvious reasons, our competitors probably are not just going to hand us so we need to find proxy measures, proxy ways to get to that information in ways that

don’t require us to have access to data that we probably don’t have permission to have access to. So there are really about five different ways that you can put together a benchmark of data for you versus your competitors.

Let’s talk about each of these five and they are accessing them are tutorials all on their own.

The first one, and the one that I think is probably the most interesting and the most useful from a broad perspective, but doesn’t let you name competitors is the Google Analytics benchmarking feature, which is built into Google Analytics. It is in the audience section of the application. It’s called benchmarking. And you have to fiddle with the settings a little bit. But it’s a it’s a great way, as long as there are enough competitors

that Google says you can view this data. Google will not let you see data below a certain number of competitors and things like 50 years, or 25 or 50 websites, because it’s all anonymized. And they don’t want to obviously give away information that that is identifiable in some way. But that’s a good one, especially for a broad channel basis. So like, how are we doing versus a competitor, our peer competitors for social media, for email for search and so on and so forth. So that’s, that’s the first place I’d start. Second place I’d start is with search tools. So search data.

Fantastic for measuring competitive awareness, especially for branded search. If you’re if you got a competitor and you got your company you can look in if I’m as basic as Google Trends all the way up to, you know, enterprise grade SEO packages for searches about your company, about your products, your services, your brands, all those things and assemble them as export the data and assemble it as a competitive benchmark. How much are people searching for your brand? So let’s say if you were, I don’t know, it’s it. Let’s say you were Toyota Motor Corporation, right? You would want to benchmark against how many people are searching for Tesla’s series three versus the Toyota Prius and so on and so forth. And that would give you a really good sense of brand intent because, again, someone doesn’t search for your brand your stuff by name unless they really want to know about you, right, so that’s a great place to go. The third place is social media benchmarking for public

metrics and this would require tools, social media monitoring tools, brand 24 talk Walker, you also want to use a ideally something like a crowd tangled if you can get access to it. But what you want to do is you want to gather competitive public metrics, so posts, likes, shares, comments, Facebook reactions, any of the broad metrics just to get a sense of how engaged are people with your competitive content versus yours.

audience size does in some cases matter. So having all that

from social media, be wary

be very wary of a automation like bots and be be wary of assigning ascribing too much significance to things like brand mentions on social media only because it’s very qualitative data and social media in it of itself has biases to it, but it it belongs in

Couldn’t in the basket with these other metrics?

The fourth area would be surveys and qualitative data. So we’re talking Mark we’re talking runnings, actual surveys to audiences using credible tools Survey Monkey has a panel option, I believe now that allows you to designate a panel of a certain type of audience and run surveys to it. It’s a little more it’s a little more representative. And you know, just emailing your list which is not the way to go,

but doing things like brand recall, MPs style surveys, unaided brand recall surveys, and other forms of qualitative data market research, focus groups, etc, would be the fourth bucket where you could get some competitive benchmarks. If you ask 1000 consumers or thousands CMOS are 1000 whatever,

what is your perception of this brand? What is your intent to purchase from this brand and the next 90 days and so on so forth. You can get a very good sense of

The

the layout of the market and people’s awareness of your brand. And the last is published data, particularly published syndicated market research. There’s are fantastic

public resources of data that give you a broad sense of how companies are doing things are the one I look at very often is from the CMO survey and is aptly named at the CMO survey. If you go to cmo survey.org it’s run by Duke University School of Business and I believe Deloitte Consulting they survey about 500 ish CMOS every six months about questions like marketing, spend, marketing, budget areas of investment marketing priorities, and it’s a good way

not necessarily to benchmark against competitors. Because the industry is verticals and sizes are fairly narrow,

but against the marketing field as a whole. Hey, companies are spending on average, you know 9.8% of revenue.

As marketing budget, where your what’s your marketing spend versus your revenues. If you’re spending 2%, you might find that you’re handicapping yourself versus peers. On the other hand, if you spending 20%, you might find that you’re not you’re not in line with the rest of the industry, which could be good or bad. But that’s a strategic choice you make after you have the data. So very good question for benchmarking. The one thing I would suggest is don’t take these benchmarks

in silos.

So you have search data, social data, you have media coverage, you have social media and all these things. What tends to happen in companies as people treat these things as as independent metrics,

my best suggestion would be as long as you can find the data the data is available and the data is in good condition is to create an index and what you would do is you would normalize all these different data points normalize them like another zero to 100 scale and then average them together to give you a

A blended score of how you are doing versus your competitors are doing and maybe have that, you know, obviously have the underlying data available so that someone who’s like, hey, why our score down, go down four points this month can look at the underlying data and say, Oh, we

had substantially less branded search volume this month. And last month, we need to go fix that with things that drive branded search just as an example. But having that blended score makes reporting a lot easier. And it makes monitoring much easier as well. The trick you’ll have to figure out is getting all the data together in one place to do the math on and then to report on ideal you’re going to do it in an automated fashion, you’re going to have a piece of software that will almost certainly be custom code to extract all this data and then to transform it and then republish it. So

back in the old days, I had a very manual very manual way of doing this.

Which chewed up an enormous amount of time. So thanks to things like API’s and modern programming languages, it’s much easier to do that now than it used to be. But there’s still some stuff that will require

a little bit of hand holding. I’ve yet to find something that can ingest survey data in a fully automated fashion.

It’s still a little squishy on on spots, but that’s okay.

Make that index, make that index and that that can be your brand benchmark or your competitive benchmark index that you can use as a as a performance metric,

and then run it against your business metrics, do a do math on it, to compare it against your business metrics. And ideally,

your benchmark will have a meaningful relationship with revenue or sales or something that matters to the business and if so, then you have the ability to say that

This is now being promoted from metric to a KPI. We need to keep our our brand benchmark above 80 or whatever, whatever your your blended index comes up with. So that we know this is we’re doing our jobs as marketers. We’re recreating that, that brand impression. So really good question, Andrew. And this is one that I sent out my personal newsletter asking people Hey, I’m going to Social Media Marketing World I’m going to ask a bunch of people some key questions this is one that I want to ask other marketers

would love to hear your thoughts as well. I’m going to publish it also in our free analytics for marketers slack group. So hop on over there. I may actually put a tutorial for how to use the benchmarking and analytics for marketers so that you folks can can enjoy that but great question. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 8, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Measuring Contest Effectiveness
Ziring asks, “I want to run a social media contest, how do I measure the success of mentions of my account and hashtag?”

This is an interesting question, because measuring a contest with social engagement may not be a great business objective. While we talked in the past episode about vanity metrics not always being bad, generally speaking, our metrics and KPIs should be as close to a business goal as possible most of the time. What’s the purpose of a contest? To grab new, enrolled audiences for first reach. Watch this video for my recommendations about how to best measure contests.

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In today’s episode Ziering asks, I want to run a social media contest How do I measure the success of mentions of my account and hashtag? This is an interesting question because measuring a contest with social engagement, particularly very trivial social engagement may not it may not be a great business objective. It may not get you to where you want to go

in the past up. So we did talk about how vanity metrics are not necessarily always bad, but generally speaking from a planning and strategy perspective, you want your metrics to be as as close to a business goal as you can get them so let’s think about this contest for a second the contest purpose any contests purpose is to essentially acquire new audience right? Have a contest you have

giveaway you have some kind of promotion what you want to do is you want to get new audience that you don’t have access to already because presumably you’ve already gotten something out of your existing audience and you want people to share and talk about your contest that’s why when a car or when a this or that the other thing is something that there’s a prize that is big enough that people go Oh, wow, I want to be a part of that thing.

So there has to be something that’s attractive of value to the end user

in order for the contest to be successful in getting you new reach getting a new audience so if we think about the the campaign goal is being new reach new audience then what are the

what are the metrics the KPIs that go downstream from their that lead to the business goals the business goals always almost always going to be something like make money right so how do you map backwards from make money to this contest? Well, there are

bunch of steps along the way that somebody could take. Somebody could Yes, follow your account, in which case you then have access to them through the social media platforms, advertising tools, you can advertise to anybody who follows you. You can advertise to people who use specific certain terms. But generally speaking, the more concrete the the action, like, follow or subscribe or whatever, depending on the platform, the easier it is to advertise to that person. However,

remember that just building that audience if there’s contest is wildly successful, you get a million followers, right? Great. Congratulations. Now you have to have the budget to advertise those million followers that can get expensive. So what’s the next step after that? Well, after that you would leave the social media property and go to like a website. A website would be a place that you only have control of and you can pixel and cookie people who visit your site

in compliance with local laws like

GDPR.

And then you can advertise to those people or get them to subscribe to something that you control. Ideally, that would be something like an email newsletter. And the reason for that is that email it other than the service costs, email is a lower cost channel for earning back attention. As long as what you’re sending people is actually valuable, that helps them, it entertains them, it does something along those lines that is of benefit to them. Email is a great channel for that. So is a blog subscription for people who have subscribed to blogs. There’s a certain audience which that works really well for

and then downstream from there. What are the goals after that? Okay, got somebody to to

subscribe to an email. Do you want them to install an app? If so they’re at metrics and you should use a tool like Google Firebase to measure that

is there is there a purchase funnel some kind you would use marketing automation software and CRM software to measure that and ultimately get down to your business goal, so

In terms of measuring the success of this campaign,

I would for you, social media is the channel. But this is not where I would build the destination of the campaign, I would try to get people either to a website or to an email newsletter list so that you can capture that audience. Because remember, when you have somebody’s email or their mobile phone number, either one,

you can then re upload that list back to social media advertising sites, and target those people with custom audience advertising as long as the audience is big enough. So

because you can do that email is a great choice for being able to reach back out to people in multiple ways. You don’t have to just email them. You can show them ads on YouTube and Google and Facebook and Twitter and all these different platforms. So I would say a good campaign goal might be to get the email address rather than tracking hashtag usage, right? Because that doesn’t really do anything for

You and

the other thing that’s dangerous to me about hashtag usage if you are competing for attention and you are successful and competing for attention is a hashtags are public, which means that a competitor can also target your hashtag and vacuum of people. That way, when someone signs up to your email list, your competitors can’t get hold that they shouldn’t be able to as long as your information security is good. And so

another consideration of campaign successes,

what what are you letting competitors see Now granted, if you’re doing something that’s very common, you know, it’s it’s not going to be a big deal. But if you’ve got fierce competition for eyeballs, you may want to pull that back. So email I would say you should be the goal of your campaign and then from there, keeping those people engaged, keeping you that’s the toughest part of a contest is a part of contests that companies do the most wrong they run this big contest they get a lot of new people on

mailing list

and they don’t segment them they don’t treat the audience definitely they don’t warm that audience up with nurture campaigns with starter campaigns with a drip campaign have some content whether it’s blog content video content email content they just throw people into the usual marketing crap that that we get companies and as a result

contest end up costing a lot of money and contest end up generating lists of audiences that are in many cases poor quality of them had the company not been anything at all and that’s bad for things like email and social media where algorithms determine deliver ability right the number of people who report you a spam goes up significantly may it may seriously impact deliver ability and then on social networks it’s even worse because

the with email an algorithm for letting a user see your content needs binary either they get it they don’t vote with they get

They get all your content with social media, the algorithms filter down at the post level. So you’ll get that you may have noticed this, especially on Facebook. And the first time you like a page, you’ll see that pages posts for like a day. And if you don’t engage with them, they vanish from memory, right?

That’s the danger with contests, you could get this huge enrolled audience. And if nobody engages with you after that, then your visibility throttled back down. Maybe even worse, because you have a lower engagement rate at that point. And Gosh, now you’re worse off because now you can’t reach the people who are already engaged with you because your your overall engagement rate has dropped. So be very careful about that with Qantas, get the email send really valuable content to folks, warm them up, get them introduced to you, and that will be a good way to measure the success of your campaign. It’s a good question. As always, if you

Have follow up constantly them in the comments below and subscribe to the YouTube channel newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you.

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March 7, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Analytics and Social Media Marketing Strategy
Sherry asks, “How do you use analytics to set marketing strategy, especially for social media marketing?”

While this is a very broad question, we can use our AI-Powered Social Media Marketing Process as the starting point for discussing the use of analytics in setting, informing, and executing strategy. Watch the video for a walkthrough.

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In today’s episode, Sherry asks, How do you use analytics to set marketing strategy, especially for social media marketing? This is a really broad question. But we can use analytics to inform, to set and to execute the strategies in marketing and and and social media, as long as we have a strategy or a plan or a framework to work from analytics is data and the analysis of what happened. And so if you’re starting from net new then obviously going to have a real hard time creating something from essentially nothing right from just a bunch of data points. You can use it to you can use analytics to to build on on your strategy, but it’s very hard to create a strategy from data itself in the same way that it’s very hard to build a recipe just from ingredients, you should generally have the

The idea of what you want to make first and then see, okay, what ingredients do I have? Can I substitute things? The grandma told me some things out of the things definitely about critical. That’s how you should approach this kind of question is what recipes? Do you know how to cook? And then do you have the ingredients necessary. So let’s look at at one recipe. I’m going to bring this up here. This is the AI powered social media marketing processes is something that I do for trust and sites, customers, and something that that you can do as well, as long as you have access to the technology. And it is a 10 step process for using artificial intelligence, machine learning and data to build a really comprehensive marketing strategy around social media. So the first step when the the step, I think probably Sherry’s alluded to most is that inventory step are we do have a good catalog of existing content, existing data, existing analytics and metrics, what do you have to do this is stuff that you have

in good condition, what does it tell you? What happened, what worked, what didn’t work and so on and so forth. And that’s the basis the starting point we in data sciences is called exploratory data analysis What do you have? Is it is it any good What does it tell you the next step is based on you identifying the things that worked you would then take for example if you’re doing social media marketing and you isolate the top 10% of know Instagram posts in your industry enrich that extract out the the general content the topics too broad lists ideas to terms to phrases to keywords to images, two themes and figure out how to extend that so if the top 10% of Instagram posts you know 90% of those are like pictures of cats okay this is all cat so it’s just house cats is a certain color cat. You want to get a broad idea after that you would use

artificial intelligence actually wouldn’t even use it at this point. This point you’d be using

Research Tools to determine things like search volume. So things like Google Trends or sem rush or at our reps or spy food

to determine broad volumes that you use services like talk Walker and ran 24 and and all the media monitoring tools to help understand

what are the broad big discussion points and use those tools to determine the competitive landscape as well who’s talking about these things? How are they talking about them from those you would you would select the things that you think you can credibly address so if you know nothing about cats, guess what you have to discard that 10 that top 10% of those cats posts and and you know about dogs, find the dog post, select them and then start to enrich that and this is where you would take all the social posts about dogs are all that were high performing, or all of the articles about coffee or SAS based software or server appliances or whatever the case may be and you would use

You would use media results. So articles, blog posts, Reddit posts, Facebook posts, you name it, and extract out a language model, a topic model of those things. So let’s bring up an example here. This is from

a conference called shop talk, which is a retail conference. And we’re running in an assessment of the right now. And what we can see in shop talks data is things like digital transformation, digital natives and things. These are these give us ideas and starting points to then go and do the opposite of that broadening. Now, we want to narrow down so we would take something like digital natives feed it into our SEO tool and get 5100 200 300 500,000

search terms related to that. The next step in the process is to use predictive analytics to forecast Okay, when will each of those thousand terms be at its most popular which ones are going to be popular on an ongoing basis?

What weeks of the year with those things

be powerful there’s a example I’ll put a link in the notes to our cheese OF THE WEEK forecast which uses a lot of this technology to innovate frivolous fun way to say like this is when the this the most popular cheese will be but use predictive analytics to guide your social calendar to guide your execution strategy to say this is when we’re going to talk about these things we’re going to create video content about digital natives we’re going to create interviews about digital natives and we’re going to have YouTube videos up about digital natives and we’re going to time it so that when people search for digital natives the most and the next year our content is waiting for them they’re they’re ready for them

after that you like I said you build the content you constructed and then you have to go out and and from all those conversations you just had find your key opinion leaders your influencers based on those topics. So this is another example this is the the shop talk one and we use network graphic technology to figure out who are the people who are being talked about the most when

comes to this particular conference. Now, you would also do this for things like that your big topics like digital natives, or new age of retail, or whatever the thing is, but this is the distill phrase, the phase where you are identifying those people. And then if your content is good, then you do your outreach to those people at using the predictive calendar. So it’s at the time that those people should be most interested in your topics.

So it’s influencer marketing. But with instead of just kind of being scattershot and haphazard, using the data using your analytics to say this is when I should approach this person about this thing because this relevant to the industry and then you just repeat the cycle over and over again for each of the topics each of the areas of expertise, each domain knowledge area of domain knowledge that you have to do until you get the results that you want or or or you find out that maybe the area that you’re creating.

content and doing outreach and isn’t generating interest, right? So if you are

if you are a coffee shop and you’re trying to reach out about coffee influences about your coffee shop, and it turns out that that may not be the reason people go to coffee shops, then you would have to switch over to doing pure market research and figure out why if we’re reaching out about coffee and people like coffee, and we’re a coffee shop and we’ve got coffee influencers. Why are we not getting results. Now, it could be your pitches bad, but assume it’s not. It could turn out that people go to coffee shops for reasons other than the coffee Starbucks calls that third space, but whatever you call it, you have to do market research and then restart the cycle again, so that you can build new content, identify new influencers and so on and so forth. So that’s a very cursory way to use the analytics and data that you have and build strategy from it. enrichment validation selection, extraction prediction construction Association

distillation and outreach as a process, it takes time and it takes some technology to do it. But if you do it well, you will, on average get much better results than someone just guessing and hoping to get lucky because you’re using the data that customers and your audience are already creating and giving to you on a silver platter for your for your social media and content marketing strategy. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and talk to you soon want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 6, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Retention with Google Analytics Cohort Analysis
Will asks, “I want to track people from a specific event and see how many return after the event is over. How do I do this?”

This question has two parts to the answer. The first is appropriate tagging; without correct UTM tags, you won’t be able to track anything. If you’re using ads, you have the opportunity to set codes for every individual ad. Check this blog post and video for a breakdown of UTM tagging.

The second part of the answer uses Google Analytics Cohort Analysis. Watch today’s video for a walkthrough of Cohort Analysis.

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In today’s episode, we’ll ask I want to attract people from a specific event. And the ads I’ve run and see how many return after the event is over. How do you do this? So this question has two parts to the answer. The first part is that you need to have tagged correctly, those people with UTM tags in the ads themselves if you’re using those ads set individual codes per ad, there’s a video that I did a blog post from back in January called best practices for Google Analytics UTM tracking codes that goes through how to set these and there’s also a spreadsheet that is involved as well if you want to keep consistent tagging, but that’s the first part of the answer is you need to have an audience specifically tagged with certain UTM tags so that you can isolate them. So let’s go ahead I’m going to go into my Google Analytics here and I’m gonna actually set up a custom segment.

For an audience for a very specific audience, so let’s go ahead and call this almost timely. And this,

I’m going to save that I’m going to go to Advanced conditions. And I want you’ll notice all the different things like campaign or in here, content, add content, which is UTM code keyword. If you use the UTM term for this, I’m going to do a source because I use my newsletter, it has the source of almost timely, right. But again, if you had an ad specific campaign to just choose campaign, or term or content, depending on what it was that you were doing. So this is my segment that I want to keep track of. No, no, that’s 2.74% of my users. And let’s go ahead and choose from January onwards. You can obviously do this for when the event occurred, and then after the event. And now the second part of the answer is Google Analytics has what is called cohort analysis. This is taking a look at a group of people and seeing how that group change.

changes over time. So let’s click on cohort analysis.

And we are on track by acquisition date. If the event was like this week, you’d use by day, otherwise could do by week or by month. I’m going to do by week here. And retention is one of the metric. You can also track goals. How much conversion to do get out of this, how many page views in this case retention as a metric of returning users. How many people returned during this time period, and we’re going to look at the last six weeks

and what you can see as for people who enrolled in this audience, the week of January 20, the 26th some pretend that was the event week.

The first week after that event over the first week was 94% of the users within this cohort were in that week. Zero that that week, the second week, 2.67% return. So that second week, so the week after January 26 was January 27 for this week’s audience. 6.67% returned after we three 4%

After week for zero, week five, 1% week six zero. So the people who joined my newsletter this week in January here kind of fell off after the third week. So that was that’s indicated that the people who joined my audience that we were not great, right in the sense of they were not super loyal. If we look down here, the week of January 27, 8.5%

people returned after week one 1.43 2.86 2.86

so they got to four weeks out before they stopped returning based on the newsletter they got about four weeks of content out of the newsletter before they kind of fell off. Now we can obviously change this range to be up to 12 weeks or you can do by month as well. So let’s go ahead and do by month here.

So let’s do by 12 weeks here. So now looking out 12 weeks.

Let’s go back to that same week, January twice 20th to the 26 you can see here there’s really a decade

And that week, that was not that was not a great week. If we look back and look out here, the people who join my newsletter the weeks of December 16 of December 22 or December, 20 seconds, December 29 there 10 weeks out there, still loyal they’re still at 2% here I’ve retained those folks so something whoever joined the list that week those people are sticking around, they’re sticking through there. They are loyal to this campaign code.

If you were doing this for your event, you would do exactly the same thing what week was the event and then track the loyalty of that cohort that specific group of users like seven users or however many were in your campaign over time to see how they indicate now we’re This is gets really interesting is if you have that audience tagged very clearly. And then let’s put it in a different audience here. I’m going to use let’s use my Twitter so let’s use my Twitter audience.

Organic Twitter audience I want to exclude Pay Per Click traffic here.

And just for clarity sake, I’m gonna switch this back to six weeks. Otherwise the screen gets really hard to read.

And now we can compare side by side, the newsletter audience versus the Twitter audience. So what we see here is, once you get out to week five, there’s still are some users within my newsletter audience, they’re coming back, but I lose all of my Twitter audience after that, that week five, and we also see the numbers 8%, 6%, 9%

versus 1231.

My Twitter audience is not as loyal and I can keep fewer of them then I do my newsletter, but it’s also a smaller audience. If you look at newsletter audience, 538 users, Twitter audience 369 users. So

remember that the whole point of analytics and metrics the whole way to get value out of these things is to compare and contrast to compare and a metric to something else. So if you’re

event was that week and this is your ad group event. And then maybe this is your social media group for the event, which audience was the better quality audience was at the ad group? Or was that the the Twitter group. Now, one thing you want to do is make sure that you have exclusion setup, so that you’re not double dipping. Somebody who is in your ad group and you know, organic social group, you have to decide which group you want that person to end up in by excluding the other in the in the segment settings. So we saw that I had a segment setting in there for eliminating PPC. So CBC PPC, anything with those codes, I want out of this or Twitter organic audience so that I’m not double dipping on paid versus unpaid Twitter users. So that’s how you do this. The easiest way to report on this is simply to take a screenshot then, and just sort of highlight like this is the audience and this is compared to another audience. And remember, because it’s controlled by Google Analytics segments. You can have up to four audiences side by side here. You can compare them over time.

Let’s see how did this unit this this group of users do overtime for from a loyalty perspective. Now

this also compares to people who are in other weeks around that that event. If you just want to look at the decay of that audience overall

and you don’t want to do the cohort reporting, then the easiest way to do that would actually just be to look at new versus returning users.

That’s a knockout Twitter we don’t need to compare on this and take that that campaign group and look at the new versus returning over time and what percentage comes back over time. You can also if you wanted to just report on the sheer traffic from that segment only you would do source contains or campaign if you’re if it’s an ad campaign and

user

user type contains returning

visitor and that will only show the people who are in this campaign and who have come back to the website. So my save that you notice it was 2.73. Now it’s point seven, two. So I’ve lost about what,

three quarters of that audience now you can track just that audience over time and apply that that segment to any of the tracking metrics acquisition behavior and stuff within Google Analytics to see like, what content does that group of people view versus you could add that segment back end for organic Twitter to compare and contrast but this would be how you would track those people just those people who have returned from the ads even running. So a great use case the cohort analysis is really super it’s an easy way to visualize the performance of an audience versus other audiences or other other groups in a campaign if you want to just drill into that that segment that cohort itself make sure that you have

The campaign tag and the returning visitor tag setup in your segment and then you can compare and contrast and use Google Analytics just with that segment over time. So great question. Well if you have additional questions, please leave them in the comments. Otherwise, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter will talk to you soon. One help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 5, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Best Social Media Listening Tools?
Hannah asks, “What do you recommend for the best social media listening tools?”

The tool is dependent on the use-case. I have a suite of tools I use depending on what the need is.
– For your own stuff: Agorapulse
– For a list of known competitors on Tw/Fb/Reddit/IG: Crowdtangle
– For traditional media and most social media: Talkwalker
– For Instagram and Facebook: Brand24

In order to provide comprehensive monitoring, I’ve had to write my own software that blends the data together.

FTC Disclosure: My company, Trust Insights, partners with some of the vendors above and we receive financial compensation if you purchase their services through us.

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In today’s episode, Hannah asks, What do you recommend for the best social media listening tools? The answer to this question is dependent on the use case on what your needs are. different tools do different things. And there are a lot of options out there that will say this up front, there is no one tool that I have found that does it all. That isn’t like a billion dollars, right? If you’re Google, and you can write your own stuff. Of course, obviously, that’s that’s a totally different game. But for the rest of us,

you kind of need a suite of tools put together in order to to get a comprehensive picture. So what are the tools if you want to monitor your own channels, the tool I recommend there is a Gora pulse agriculture Michael and somebody pigeon from from the company tell me how this company’s name to pronounce name was pronounced.

Love it because it is a

consolidated social media inbox you have all of your replies all your ads all your DMS all in one place and you can manage them and sort them and mark them as read and and assign them Agoura pulse has great multi user capabilities as well so if you have a team and you want to delegate and assign stuff, terrific program for that it’s also good for scheduling if you want to be able to schedule social media posts definitely a great tool to use they have a CSV upload, which I think is really important to be able to upload batch updates as your as your content framework. Only thing I don’t like about it is it’s limited to 100 posts, which is silly in this day and age.

Full disclosure a Gora pulse is a affiliate of my company of trust insights. And so if you buy anything for the link in the show notes, which I hope you do, we receive a nonzero commission from them

for monitoring competitors on four networks Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, the tool to use there is crowd tangle if you can get access

access to it you have to be a journalist, a researcher or a some kind of accredited institution in order to be able to get access to it. But it’s by Facebook. It is fantastic for extracting 100% of a channels known post not the replies not the conversations to have but what the channel itself post so if you want to know what a competitor is posting on those four channels crowd tangles the tool to do it because you can just dump the data right out of there. They also have lists of like popular influencers but it’s a really terrific tool. If you can get in if you can get in it is for your cost for most traditional media and most social media. I recommend talk Walker talk Walker is media monitoring. It does a really good job and actually a fantastic job with traditional news. It also does a terrific job with Twitter, some Facebook I found it’s Instagram coverage to be a little on the light side. Even with define hashtags. I found its coverage to not be as good but

If you had to pick just one tool out of the suite for external monitoring, I would say that’s a good one to look at.

They have a a good interface and they have some decent machine learning under the hood to help try and sort things. So a good one there. If you are doing a ton of work on Instagram, I recommend a tool called brand 2424 is a Polish company and they have fantastic Instagram coverage. I can dig into Instagram, I don’t know what they do or how they do it. Hopefully they’re doing it in accordance with the terms of service but they’ve got they’ve got really really good Instagram data. Now here’s the catch if you want comprehensive monitoring, meaning that you are getting information from all these sources and putting them together again, there is no one tool that does this. I had to write my own software I wrote my own code in our the programming language are to pull together this stuff and to blend it into the D duping normalize it and all that stuff.

If you want the best possible picture of your social media monitoring, you’re probably going to have to do something similar to that. Because again, there’s no one stop shopping. Yet, there are companies that say they do. And I have found all their claims to be somewhat lacking. So those would be the tool that we’re coming.

I would say, however,

again, another, it’s not a blind spot, because the tools are not designed to do this. But when it comes to listening, social media data is qualitative. It is you can quantify it to some degree. But remember, there’s a whole bunch of biases that go into it. There is a non response by us, meaning that if someone doesn’t feel strongly about something, they’re probably not going to talk about it. And if you care about elicited responses from an audience, you do very much care about that middle layer of neither unhappy nor happy just like Yeah, right. You want to activate that part of the market you will not get that on the social media listening.

Individual networks have their own biases. We know this to be true. Pinterest skews gender wise. Female Reddit skews gender wise mail. Right. It’s also skews younger. Twitter, for example, skews minority and lower income except for like the Russian bots. So you have to be very aware that what you’re getting out of social media is a biased perspective. And you need to complement what you’re doing with your listening efforts on social media with quantitative and proper qualitative market research surveys, focus groups, customer advisory boards, conferences, trade shows, one on one interviews, you need that total view in order to get an understanding of what your customers actually care about. And so

don’t make the mistake of relying solely on social media data because it is not clean and it is not comprehensive and that means it fails to have the six major

characteristics of great data so

Those that are listening tools, supplement them with proper market research and you’ll be off to the races in terms of what it is that you’re capable of doing and understanding from social data. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter will talk to you soon want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 4, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Instagram Business Profile Reach?
Taylor asks, “Is there any fear that Instagram is going to set up their algorithm to marginalize business profiles that aren’t paying for advertising like they did with Facebook’s Pages. We still have our IG profile set up as a personal page for fear of this.”

In a word: yes. Facebook has made it abundantly clear on its earnings calls that it’s always seeking to improve monetization. COO Sheryl Sandberg always makes a note of how many businesses use Facebook properties and how many are participating in ads. Their roadmap to monetization is clear: companies need to pay to be seen. Watch the video for what one strategy could be.

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In today’s episode, Taylor asked Is there any fear that Instagram is going to set up their algorithm to marginalize business profiles that aren’t paying for advertise like they did with Facebook pages? We still have our Instagram profile setup as a personal page for fear of this in a word. Yes,

we know Facebook wants to monetize more, right? It is a profit for profit company. Its goal is to generate more profit, and its profit comes from businesses. By and large. If you look at the most recent earnings calls, ads are still the vast majority of their business. And as a result, they need people to buy more ads.

The CEO Sheryl Sandberg, always on every quarterly earnings call makes a note of how many businesses use Facebook, how many have pages and how many are participating in ADS. And she started mentioning that with Instagram as well and the way they’re trying to monetize Instagram together.

Things like the stories format their messages through that common code base that that CEO Mark Zuckerberg talked about over unifying the WhatsApp, Instagram and Facebook Messenger back end systems to create more ad inventory. So their roadmap to monetization is super clear. Companies need to pay to be seen. So

it’s pretty much a given that at some point, they will look at Instagram companies spending money on Instagram and say, we need to make more money out of this. What’s the easiest way to do that? Well, as simple as they did with Facebook, once they convinced businesses to switch over to pages or to business profiles and give businesses something like a little bit of reach for some time and better analytics. Then they get to turn the screws and say, Yep, now you got to pay to be seen.

That’s just the way it isn’t. It’s a it’s a perfectly rational thing to do. Right? It is their business. This is not a public utility. This is not

A charity This is a business that needs to make money.

And if they have a whole line of business with relatively untapped revenue, of course, they’re going to say, let’s get more money out of this segment of the business. So what’s your strategy? What’s your play for this? A lot of people say, should we convert our profile? Should we do this? We that the answer is start a second profile, start a business profile and then pivot the existing profile to something that is related but maybe has a slightly different point of view or has a slightly different purpose. One of the things that I see people do

not as well on social media is not have a defined purpose for each of the channels that they use. So

they do pretty much the same thing everywhere and treat every channel as pretty much the same thing. Even though behaviorally we interact with all these different channels in very different ways. We go to YouTube for very different reason that we go to Instagram we go to

For a very different reason that we go to LinkedIn and to see them all as one sort of monolith is doing ourselves and our audiences a disservice. So when someone goes to your LinkedIn profile or your LinkedIn page, what are they getting? That they can’t get anywhere else? What are they getting on Facebook from either they can’t get anywhere else.

What are they doing on Twitter? And what are you doing on Twitter that they can’t get anywhere else? So for myself, Twitter is where I post a lot of stuff, particularly at conferences and events. I shared news throughout the week, but it’s where I go to interact with people very publicly and where I share stuff when I’m at events because I can live tweet along things I think are interesting. Facebook, my Facebook page functionally exists to show ads, right? There’s there’s not a ton of value that my Facebook personal profile is where I spend time with friends. My Instagram profile is where I share aspects my personal life, my company’s Instagram profiles, where we show off interesting cool looking data visualizations and

And so it’s sort of a proof point for the work that we do. My personal LinkedIn profile is where I connect with people and have meaningful personal interactions, especially around things like hiring or careers or questions. People have the company’s Facebook the company’s LinkedIn profile is very much about sharing thought leadership sharing stuff that is interesting out there. And so with every one of these channels, there is a purpose and a function.

What’s yours? What are you doing with Instagram right now? And what could you turn your Instagram profile into the strategy I recommend and the one that I pursued with Facebook as you keep the personal profile maybe make it more personal, maybe make it you know behind the scenes or the people of whatever your company name is and then you have the business profile which is the the one that you expect to get penalised and you expect it to require it be required to pay money for at some point and that’s what you use to share fully full on business stuff that’s still relevant to your audience with the expectation that you

You’re going to put be sinking some money into this, you’re gonna be sinking some money into this to have certain types of content seen. This also maps back to your content strategy to each channel and then yourselves, your company overall needs to have an overall content strategy. And the one that I recommend that I use personally and that I teach other people about is called the hero how the health model this is from Google circa 2014 it’s been tuned up over the years

but fundamentally there’s a hero idea or campaign or something that once a quarter you put like 60% of your money into that campaign and and that and your time and your effort and it’s the big idea what’s the big idea for your company that this quarter you’re going to hammer home so for real the last couple months for for my company trust insights we’ve been promoting the

it’s actually a march 1 today so that’s that can get start to get retired now, but that was for about three

months, the thing that we pushed, and that was the big hero content, the the hub content is monthly campaigns monthly things, it’s a, it’s a promotional piece, it’s something that you want people to see and engage with. That is really an ask in many ways.

And then there’s the help of content. The Daily stuff like this video, for example,

where you’re creating content on a daily basis that is helpful, that is educational is entertaining, that is something that people would want this very tactical and a lot of ways. And so if you have hero hub help, and you have a budget divided like 60, 3010,

then you have the ability now to allocate budget and say, Okay, now on Instagram, we’re going to, you know, promoting the hero stuff on these days, the hub stuff on these days and then maybe start using stories to do help content and you would do that on the business profile while reminding people from time to time on the personal profile that hey, we’re still around and then sharing personal stories and personal things on

On the personal profile you do as a person or as a, as a collective of people. I’ve seen some companies very successfully do sort of like HR and recruiting stuff with a personal profile like hey, these are these are the people who work at x company and seeing that be very successful.

One thing I would suggest you do is in your space using the social analytics tool of your choice, look at what other companies are doing with their Instagram profiles, look at the data they’re generating and see

what is working for them, what types of content types of images what types of stories and that will help you give give you some ideas about ways to tell personal personal level stories on the personal profile and business level stories on the business profile, keeping the two separate and then expecting the business one to be the one that you pay for. So good question.

We know we know Facebook will monetize Instagram more heavily. We know Facebook will monitor

What’s up more heavily? We know Facebook’s going to monetize Oculus as soon as they can get by thing so expected be ready for it have a strategy that’s rolled out for it now so that when the change comes you’re not surprised and you have you have allocated the amount of budget and resources you need to make it work for him so great question please leave any follow up questions in the comments and of course subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon one help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 1, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How to Track Facebook Without a Pixel?
Scott asks, “How do you track Facebook activity without installing the Facebook Pixel?”

Companies may have good reason to not install Facebook’s pixel. The company hasn’t exactly behaved in a trustworthy way as a responsible data steward. Other companies may have serious regulatory concerns like GDPR compliance or other PHI. So how do you determine Facebook’s impact in the absence of its premier tracking mechanism?

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In today’s episode, Scott asks, How do you track Facebook activity without installing the facebook pixel?

Well,

companies, companies may have good reason not to install Facebook’s pixel the company Facebook has not exactly behave in a trustworthy manner or as a responsible data. Stewart any number of scandals about leaked information, hacked information, sharing data inappropriately. Partners has left a lot of people a little uncomfortable with them and other companies may have serious regulatory concerns like GDP GDP or compliance. Again, we can only take Facebook at his word but part of the responsibility for GDPR is on the vendors they use apartments yours and so if you are working with a in an environment where you need to have iron clad GDP are compliant compliance it may not want to install it there either

other companies

May that we’re in highly regulated industries may not be able to use Facebook’s pixel at all. Because Well, you could be dealing with things like protected health information. And given that we don’t even know for sure one way or the other, that Facebook what Facebook is scraping off a web forms and things may not be able to use it there either. So what are your options for tracking Facebook using the tools that you already have? If you have an are permitted to use Google Analytics, it is probably the best choice for tracking the impact of Facebook. And the way that you’ll track Facebook’s impact is through the use of UTM codes, UTM parameters which are the tracking URLs that you attend to any web URL, and you would specify for example, the UTM source would be Facebook, the UTM medium would be social and then the individual campaigns and things like that go with those tracking codes. And that’s probably the single best way to track Facebook’s impact because you’ll be able to see

What data is coming, what users are coming from Facebook and how they’re interacting with your website and what they do and how they convert.

Here’s another thing about Facebook

you can if you have a page there, extract your analytics from that and then put that alongside your Google Analytics data in a big spreadsheet and then run data analysis to determine what if any, what activities on Facebook like post likes and haha and comments and shares correspond to the business outcomes and goals that you are tracking. So that’s another avenue for for being able to make use the Facebook data that you get from Facebook like having a Facebook page and the content you post there and then using stats software like our or Python or SPSS to do that analysis. Now if you are in a highly regulated industry where you cannot eat

Use Google Analytics because you’re not permitted to you may be using Adobe analytics, which is fine. You can use this do the essentially the same things with their own tracking URL. Or if you’re not even allowed to use a cloud vendor like you have to use something on premises. If you haven’t checked out check out the open source package called matondo used to be called payload analytics. And this is a self hosted analytics package that offers probably 85 90%

of the functionality of Google Analytics. But you host it yourself. You the host it on a cloud provider. If you’re allowed to do so like a zoo, or AWS, or Google Cloud or IBM Cloud, you can put it into a container like a Docker container, or if you have to have it firmly governed by your IT infrastructure. It can actually be on a machine inside your firewall. And then the in the interface from a tumble looks very similar to Google Analytics with the marketing campaign add on from a tomo. It will automatically ingest Google Analytics UTM code so you can use UTM contract.

codes universally. And if there are certain parts of your website where that are publicly accessible, that don’t have compliance requirements, you can use Google Analytics for that or material for that. And then behind the firewall or in areas where there is protected health information or protected personally identifiable information. You can use fentanyl and in store the data behind the firewall for your own analysis. It is it is open source package. And it is something that you can fully govern within your existing it policies. And if you have experienced with Google Analytics material will look very familiar. It is very obviously structured after Google Analytics. So what are the things to be looking for that if you don’t have Facebook’s pixel what you are again, it comes down to the activities on Facebook, the content you create that leads to traffic that eventually turns into some sort of digital outcome. What you’ll lose from Facebook by not using their pixels is you’ll lose the ability to track and cookie your audience on your website.

Determine using Facebook Audience Insights now that does not deter you from using Facebook audience insights on your page because again, that’s self contained

that is and its own environment. And those there are none of your systems should be connected to your Facebook page in terms of data interchange for in a in a protected environment. So you can use Facebook audience insights to extract information about people who like your page, and you can use it for the broader audience aspects as well. If you just want to see how many people on Facebook Like a certain thing, you can use Facebook audience insights for that. So that’s how you generally track Facebook without a pixel, you do lose some of that data, especially the the differences between who likes your page and who likes your website who’s on your website. But at the end of the day, if you’re doing the data science work on the back end to look at your Facebook activities to look at the user activities and then to look at your web analytics and then possibly your car.

Or your marketing automation software, you will get the most important information, which is is Facebook as a channel contributing to your business any meaningful way? Is it generating impact? We did a thing recently for a customer and discovered Yeah, it was it was okay but it wasn’t great. There were other channels that had much more impact for them. And so we were able to advise them move some you’re spending some of your your time and resources and people away from Facebook into into this other thing that was working better for them. That’s ultimately what you want to decide. And you can do that without the facebook pixel. so

tough question, Scott. Because so many companies have gotten so reliant and I don’t know maybe even a little bit lazy about just ingesting all the data that Facebook gets.

This is my opinion this is not based on extensive research, but the regulation of social networks is coming in some ways with things like

GDPR it’s already here. But we are about to enter another election cycle in the United States. And it is clear that hostile foreign actors are using social media to influence the outcomes of those things, those elections and that sooner or later we’ll catch up to the networks themselves. Yes, we can pursue the the hostile foreign actors but that level of interference will require regulation of the social networks themselves, assuming that the users themselves just don’t all scattered to the wins and private communities anyway. And so

I would advise that you get in the habit of doing this type of data analysis so that no matter what channels what methods and things you’re using, your what tools you’re using, you have the ability to understand what is a channels impact on your business, whether it’s email whether it is

Facebook, whether it is Tick tock, who knows,

at the end of the day, you have to be able to draw a line from the stuff that you do to the results that you create. And get in the habit of doing that now, so that when the hammer does fall on many of these big social networks, you’re not left out in the cold that by the way, that also means don’t forget to invest in things like SEO. Don’t forget to invest in things like email marketing, don’t forget to invest in things like your own website, because those are the things you you own and control. And should the ground change significantly underneath social media marketing, you are not putting all of your eggs in one basket. So great question. complex question,

check out my tomo. If you are in a highly regulated industry. And even if you’re not, I would suggest this wouldn’t be the worst idea to try it out installed. Again, if you’re not in a highly regulated industry, just to deploy a single instance of it on the cloud service like Google Cloud or IBM Cloud whenever, you know, run at the low

Budget number because it’s really only going to be you and your team writing it and experiment with it is it wouldn’t be the worst idea to have a backup system. If you’re using Google Analytics. Google Analytics is fantastic. It is the gold standard for marketing measurement these days for top and middle of the funnel, but

times change, right, you don’t own Google Analytics. And so if you have your own server that’s doing a backup copy of your analytics might be a good thing just to have in your back pocket so that someday if things go crazy, you have the ability to, to recover and and and have that second set of data available. So something to think about. As always, please leave comments below and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon one help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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February 28, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: What are CAC and CLV?
Fiona asks, “What are CAC and CLV / LTV and why are they important?”

CAC is customer acquisition cost. CLTV, LTV, and CLV are customer lifetime value. These two numbers are the underpinnings of all marketing analytics. Watch this video to learn more about them, how to calculate them, how to use them, and how to apply them to the measurement of everything in software like Google Analytics.

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In today’s episode, Fiona asks What are CAC and LTV and why are they important? These are two very important metrics, their business level metrics and what they stand for is customer acquisition cost and lifetime value is typically see Lv or cltpa customer lifetime value. The reason these things are important these metrics are important is because this is the basis on which all of your marketing analytics are should be founded on so customer acquisition costs is pretty straightforward. What does it cost for you to acquire a customer from the moment you first a person first becomes aware of your brand all the way to when a person is a paying customer What does it cost to do that and that is something that a lot of marketers do really wrong because they typically include only the hard dollar cost and not everything so consider what it takes to get someone in the door there is the obviously any hard dollars you spent on like a

For example, there is the salesperson salary and time there’s the marketers salary and time there is the marketing automation software cost the website hosting and it costs, the electricity it takes to run all of the things, the utility bills that you pay everything that you could have, as part of the cost of acquiring a customer goes into that CAC number. And it is a lengthy computation that’s why most companies only do it once a once or twice a year if that but it’s a vital number. So what does it cost to acquire a customer do not make the mistake of simply taking hard dollar cost like hey, we spent this much on ads that’s that’s only return on ad spend here you’re going to get that kind of number, you’re not going to get true customer acquisition costs. Let’s take into account everything it took to get that customer so that’s what the second is what is the lifetime value of a customer so that is

the revenue that they spent the first time around any incremental revenue.

And if you have a really sophisticated model what is the value of a happy customers evangelists meaning the marketing that they’re going to go do and tell their friends about your company that will essentially reduce your marketing costs if you do a great job of getting people to love your company then you’ll be able to improve that customer lifetime value was the value of a happy customer so those are the first two numbers now those numbers form the basis of your marketing analytics computations every time somebody says what’s what’s a wish we set for our goals and go and gold values and Google Analytics that begins with CIC, NCLB so let’s do some math here if you took see Lv the customer lifetime value and you subtracted CAC, the customer acquisition cost you have the net customer value that is essentially in some ways like your your your your revenue, or shouldn’t be very close to your revenue.

If that number is zero, you’re going out of business, right? Is that numbers negative, you’re going to business. And even if that number is less than the overhead for the rest of the business, you’re going out of business, right? Your customers have to be so valuable that it it offsets not only the cost of acquiring them, but also the cost of the rest of the business, because that’s just such an essential part. So see a CL b minus CAC has net customer value. Now this is where you start building out your sales operations, sales and marketing operations follow so think about every step in the funnel. There’s audience when someone first becomes aware of you there are people who are in the consideration phase right there they’re thinking about you they’re subscribed your emails and newsletters and stuff there is evaluation where they have a demonstrated purchase need and then there’s of course the purchase and we see this laid out in marketing operations software with things like

audience suspects, prospects, marketing, qualified leads, sales, qualified leads, deals, opportunities, proposal negotiation, closed one

Close last you’ll see those terms a lot in sales CRM is

every step of that funnel. And this is for an operations perspective because the customer journey is rarely so linear but every step of that funnel internally there’s a rate of change between steps so this there’s a rate of change between marketing qualified leads and sales qualified lead marketing says the leads qualified sales as it’s not so percentage of marketing qualified leads will not be sales qualified leads. So what you want to do is take that

net customer value and amortize it up the funnel so let’s do a quick example. If the lifetime the net customer value of one of your customers is $10,000 and it takes 10 sales deals$

or Yeah, so due to sales deals, set 10 sales deals to get to one customer. That means the effective value of a sales deals1,000 right because it takes 10 to get one new customer and for the value of a new customers. 10,000 divided by 10. You have a $1,000 deal value now$

From deal value if you go up one level and you go to something like sales qualified leads which is a very popular metric what percentage of sales qualified leads turn into deals Let’s call 10% again right so that thousand dollar deal becomes100 sales qualified lead now we go up one more levels someone is on your website and they become a marketing qualified lead let’s say 10% of the marketing qualified leads or sales qualified leads so now that that the your value is 10,000 your deals 1000 your sales qualified leads 100 your marketing qualified lead is worth $10 right and if you go up one more level to like prospects you have like a$ 1 prospect Well, guess what if you are tracking prospect generation and Google Analytics you would put in $1 value one right because every 10,000 prospects will turn into 100,000 marketing.$

qualified leads will turn into 100 sales qualified leads will tend to 10 deals turn into one new customer and you know the value of that customer. So that’s how you would do those goals and goal values. Now why is that important if you are trying to do

the valuation of any individual channel like social media for example, in your Google Analytics Google Analytics needs to know what a prospect what a goal completion is worth. So if you’ve put that in based on your CAC, NCLB, and working your way up that ladder until you reach somewhere in that funnel, that Google Analytics contract like prospects, when someone fills out a form and complete something on your website. Now, Google condensed into its own methods spread out that value across your website. So you can say, hey, referral traffic is worth this much. search traffic is worth this much ad traffic is worth this much, and social media. traffic’s worth worth this much. That in turn gives you the ability to say our social media has a real ROI or it doesn’t.

Because we know from a prospect generation perspective, it’s a prospects worth1. And if we’re spending $1 and a half on on acquiring prospects through social media, we’re losing money. It’s an inefficient channel. So that’s why these numbers are important. It sounds very simple to walk through this. But this type of process that you go through, actually requires, it can take weeks or even months to boil down all the data. You have to get it from all the different departments in your company. You got to go talk to accounting, you have to talk to kind of sales, you got to get into the CRM and the PRP and all this stuff to pull the data together and then run this analysis. But if you do it, if you get in the habit of doing it, you will be able to have very very firm math behind your Google Analytics goals. Your marketing goals, your social media goals, doesn’t matter what kind but you will get real numbers that you can rely on and plan on it instead of at best educated guesses for the effectiveness of your marketing. So great question.

complex process but this is the structure of how you do it. As always, please leave comments in the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care.

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February 27, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: What Tools for Instagram Reporting?
Fiona asks, “What tool is everyone using for Instagram reporting?”

I use a combination of four tools for Instagram reporting, depending on the need. For my own data, I use Agorapulse. For known competitive accounts I want to monitor, I use Facebook’s Crowdtangle. For broad conversations, I use Brand24 and Talkwalker.

The unpleasant reality is that there’s no one tool that does it all. And even with these tools, I’ve had to write software that does analysis on top of the data they provide.

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In today’s episode, Fiona asks what tool or tools is everyone using for Instagram reporting? This is a good question. And the answer to it depends on what kind of reporting you’re trying to do or you’re trying to reward yourself are you trying to keep an eye on key competitors? Are you trying to monitor a broad space depending on your needs will depend on which tools you use. And

the reality is that so many social media marketing tools can’t do advanced analytics so you may need software even on top of that so let’s go through these use cases if you want to monitor and manage a channel for yourself particularly if you want sort of one stop shopping for the channels you own the total use there is called a gore Paul side I don’t know if it’s a gore poles or Agra polls. I mean, you’re agoraphobic but

Anyway either way Agoura pulse is the tool of choice for monitoring the challenge on because it allows you to do some analytics but it also allows you to respond to things like comments within the application which is very very helpful for known competitive accounts meaning I know these five companies are my competitors and I want to keep an eye on them or these are the 10 influencers in my space and I want to see what’s going on with them. The tool to use there is called a crowd tangle and this is a Facebook tool that is very, very difficult to get ahold of because it is currently restricted to journalists and academic researchers and and credible news publications used to be not free and you could buy it nowadays it’s free but there’s like a really long wait list and a qualification process to get ahold of it.

But for monitoring accounts that you know you want to keep an eye on is one of the best tools around for broad monitoring when you don’t know what you’re looking for.

For other than, like a hashtag or topic, I think it’s like that there are two pieces of software I recommend. One is called Brandon 24, which is a Polish Polish company that that has social media monitoring, and their Instagram support is very, very good. The other is called talk Walker and talk Walker is a bill Belgian Belgian company. I think

that does combined media monitoring and social media monitoring as well. So if you’re trying to monitor the media, news stories and things plus trying to monitor social channels, but those are all bundled into their

I found talk. Walker’s coverage on Instagram specifically to be not as good for exporting data has brand 24. So you want to do the data export for further processing. It is definitely use definitely as brand 24 if you want to do reporting and dashboards and visualization within the software itself.

definitely use talk Walker it is it’s got a really nice interface. So

those are the four ish tools.

Here’s the thing. Again, like I said, the beginning, no one tool can do it all.

Many have tried and a lot of other subjects and things like API rate limits and the way in which a provider gets its data. And even with these tools you if you got if you want to advanced analytics, none of these tools, none of them

provide you with advanced statistical capabilities. They can’t, for example, break a data set into core tiles and analyze common factors per quarter, for example, none of them can do image recognition, advanced image recognition, if you want to do for example, use IBM Watson visual recognition service none of these support that because that’s simply not something that they offer right now.

So if you wanted to do, for example, what do all the What does the top 100,000 Instagram posts of the week have in common? You would need to write that that code yourself all these tools, particularly brand 24 and talk Walker have really good data export. So it is crowd tangle. So you can export the raw data out and then feed that data into other software that other commercial providers like, you know, the IBM Watson studio ecosystem or open source languages like Python and our if you want to do advanced analytics and say, like, oh, how many

logos up here in the top 100,000

images? That’s something that you would have to write custom code for using a machine learning platforms, but

even the basic statistical stuff, these tools don’t do that. We talked about that recently. And the reason for that is that many software packages don’t offer that because the compute time is too long. We are a culture that is accustomed to it.

results on this sort of thing, you know, tap, tap the Report button and report it instantly appear. And if you have to do something that requires, you know, six hours of processing to get your answer you

people are not willing to wait that long. But even if it’s super valuable answer so. But those are the tools that I use for Instagram reports most of the time, most of the time, we are looking for patterns in data rather than data on any one individual post. And that’s why data export capabilities are so important. If you don’t have a tool does not have good data export, probably don’t use it. Like if a tool does not allow you to dump a CSV file of the data that you’re looking at. It’s not a very good tool

and the vendor has something of a vested interest in keeping you on the platform as opposed to letting you move your data around. So just a sudden look for as you’re evaluating software packages but great question if you want to take a look around at the space and I know there’s there are many other tools that you can use but these are the four

I found that gives me the data that I want the format that I want it so that I can do analytics on it and even push it into another system for further analysis or further for visualization like Google Data Studio. So great question as well as leave comments in the comments below. And if you get a chance to please subscribe to the YouTube channel the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon

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February 26, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Current Video Gear On The Road?
Brian asks, “What are you currently carrying/using on the road for video?”

Great question. For the most part, I’m doing two primary functions with video on the road – documentation of stuff and capturing my talks. For the former, all you really need is a smartphone with a decent camera. For the latter, here’s what I’m working with today.

2 camera shoot setup:
- Smartphone on Ultrapod II with the Square Jellyfish head
- DJI Osmo Pocket on Skyreat tripod
- Two Anker power packs & cables
- Portable audio recorder on the board or from Kimafun headworn mic
I’ll be setting up two camera shoots where the smartphone is at the back of the room to capture the big picture and the DJI is near the stage with motion track on. Both cameras’ mics are hot to capture house noise.

See an example of this setup with a one-camera shoot at my most recent keynote address.

Why go to this crazy amount of effort? For capturing high-quality video that can be used as speaking reels, social posts, etc.

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In today’s episode Brian asked what are you currently carrying are using on the road for video gear? Great question i’m doing i’m doing two things with video on the road one is documentation of stuff you know taking pictures and sharing stuff on social as it as it’s appropriate at events and things and then capturing when I speak now for the former all you really need a smartphone for that right you don’t need as long as it’s got a good camera you don’t really need a whole lot more for the basics there for the ladder for capturing your speaking doing. I’ve got a different setup today than I did even just a couple months ago. So this is as of you know, end the first quarter 2019 will change over time. I’m doing what’s called a two camera shoot where I have a camera in the back of the room to capture the big picture.

Know Me and the audience and then a camera up front that is recording and tracking me more close up. Now I haven’t done this in production. I’ve done some tests I was my last talk I did was still one camera shoot. But the reason for this is that you want to be able to capture really high quality video that you can cut and splice for speaking for social posts for YouTube, etc. For lead generation and the better that your video looks and sounds. Obviously the more can do work for you. The more can

create a positive first impression for anybody who doesn’t know who you are. So what’s the gear setup I’ve got the smartphone here on a ultra pod too. And I like the the the Apple iPhone x. I like the fact that it has the two x optical zoom which is handy because if the room is really far back you want you want to try and make it a little bit crop to deliver with the stage.

The Ultra pod two is a nice tripod for one reason it’s got this strap and it folds up either you can fold it up for you can, you can have it as a full table top tripod I’ve like ideally on this one to be able to fold it up and actually strap it to a pole in the back of the room because a lot of conferences particular bigger ones have like there’s a lighting polar a sound pole or something where you can strap this to it and get a an elevated

point of view. So that’s one rig. The second rig is the DJ Oslo pocket which is this tiny little camera here it’s a gimbal camera which means that it mechanically you can track an object in range so this gets parked on a very small tripod you have to buy separately the sky read tripod it can see the this tracks you which is kind of cool. So this gets plugged into a tripod as well. I like this the sky right because you can either use as a handheld or you can fold up the legs and it becomes a tabletop as well.

And the head can be removed and put on something else. Like if you have a gorilla pod or whatever, you can unscrew this and put this head on something else. So those are the two cameras. Both microphones are hot on the cameras, meaning that they are recording audio in the room. This is not to capture you speaking it’s going to sound terrible. No matter what. No matter what kind of room you’re in, unless you’re literally going padded room. Nobody else

the reason for that is these devices and your smartphone to adjust are not meant to capture the high quality auto that you want. So what you want for that is you want a third device and this is I use a portable audio recorder. You can use any one there’s a whole good Jillian to have these. This one’s a task cam one. If I had to do it all over again, I would probably get one of the zoom once it has an XLR input as opposed to just the headphone jack input. So that’s more compatible with more soundboard because you want to be able to ideally, jack this into the soundboard that powers the room that’s coming off of your lapel

Mike, when you’re speaking on stage, that way, you get crystal clear, high quality, high fidelity audio from the soundboard. If you don’t have that, or if the room isn’t set up, or the AV technicians not as as good as it could be, I use the team of fun head one mic. And what I’ll do is I’ll take this, there’s one in here, there’s another end that’s wireless, this other end go straight to the top of the task. Em,

and I will either put this on the podium or I may even just keep this in my pocket and record the audio from my voice speaking straight into that. And then what happens afterwards is you pull the audio sources you pull the audio sources from you pull the audio and video from both cameras and from your digital recorder into an editor. I use camp Asia because while having it’s it’s easy enough to it’s a nonlinear editor that I particularly like because it’s easy and fast.

A lot of people

will use things like premier or Final Cut. And those are great tools if you already know what you’re doing with them. I don’t and I have not invested the time to learn that yet.

One of the things going to be real important for both the DJI and for the smartphone is you want to power pack. You want a big, big ass power pack. Yeah. Ideally two of them. So I have like 10 of these things laying around. Now

one thing I like to do is, you know those little smartphone loops that they sell their or they give away conference I want to hear from remember who this is from now to put the logo on it,

but I strap it to the backup power packs, so that on this tripod

takes a little finagling but you can take the strap feeds this through the back of your power pack, and then strap the rest of your pole. And that way, there’s a power source that you can plug your phone into. And that way I’ll never run out of power.

This by the way, also handy you can run your belt through this and have this as a worn on your belt if you’re walking around for the day, and you don’t want to have like a super heavy power pack just like rattling around in your pocket, you look stupid, but you never run out of power. So one of these for your iPhone and one of these for the DJI. And that way neither device runs out of power because the iPhone the iPhone can run about 90 minutes of video easily this guy runs about 17 minutes of video before he runs out of power so having having a power pack externally means that there’s never a problem which is important because if you’re getting set up to speak what will typically happen is you’ll have 15 or 20 minutes sometimes 30 if it’s a really well run conference between sessions so you’ll set up cameras you’ll set up everything you don’t want to run around the last minute Hey record on everything’s we want to do is as soon as the cameras in place you get up plug it into external power hit record, make sure you got plenty of storage hit record and then you can trim it and later in editing. But you want to make sure that you you never

a situation where you forget to turn on the camera or you run out of time and you will have the ability to turn on the camera. So you want to have all the stuff set up and recording well in advance the audio recorder This is probably the first thing you plug in because that can go straight on the boy. There’s never an issue of a storage capacity because you’re recording an mp3

and high bit rate mp3 and then this you live like this record like five hours and it will never run out of battery as long as you keep the batteries fresh.

So that’s the gear right now and it seems like a lot but all this fits literally within one of these little travel cases. And just go straight in your backpack and do not check it. Do not check it when you check your luggage. It goes through rapid temperature changes and electronics plus shock like you know, impact shock plus temperature changes bad so this goes straight in your backpack or your handbag or your carry on and you have a it’s not professional it’s not

Not a professional rig in the sense of like someone who has a red camera or a big D SLR you know and all the the appropriate gear but this is for most speakers good enough to make you look professional particularly when you do the edits later on and that’s where all the magic really happens in the post production that’s probably a separate video but that’s the gear for today as an early 2019 the links for all this gear if you want to get any of it of course in the company post in the show notes they are Amazon links Full disclosure FTC disclosure their affiliate links I get a

small commission if you happen to buy anything

but great question Brian and I would I would recommend I haven’t really liking this DJ camera the image quality is fantastic on it so if you’re going to have one camera to shoot with us this one but we’ve worked out a smartphone and you just get started out a little cameras smartphones cameras good enough you can you can do pretty well that for a really long time until you’re speaking fees or whatever go up enough to be able to afford some of the

The bigger device so great question. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon want help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you.

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February 25, 2019

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