Author: Christopher S Penn

  • Friday Feeling: The Best Audience Monitoring Tools

    Friday Feeling_ The Best Audience Monitoring Tools

    As a followup to yesterday’s PR Student Chat, I share some ideas about what the best tools are for staying in tune with and in touch with your audience.

    • Beer
    • Coffee
    • Video chat
    • Conferences

    There’s no substitute for talking to the actual audience. As much as I wish technology could do that for us at scale, technology can’t ask great, insightful followup questions, nor can it determine bias well.

    Friday Feeling: The Best Audience Monitoring Tools

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    In today’s episode, some thoughts about some commentary from yesterday’s PR student chat I participated in the more I think it’s a monthly Twitter chat. And one of the questions was, what are some of the the best tools for staying tuned in sting dialed into your audience

    and a lot of people feel it a lot of vendor names for all these different tools and stuff. But the one that was missing from a lot of people’s responses was, you know, good old

    little coffee cup or or beer copper or beverage of your choice cup.

    And the reason this is important is that staying tuned into your audience, staying tuned in people.

    Believe me, as someone who doesn’t always love humanity requires you to talk to humanity requires you to talk to people. And that is the gold standard for staying in tune with your audience is to sit down with people who are in your audience who are representative of your audience and ask them questions, have conversation with them, and then take the information from that conversation many, many, many conversations and distill it down to a prospective point of view about your audience. There is no substitute for that. Now, there are ways to develop the materials to have a great focused conversation with your audience. Social media data, for example, is a great way to have a broad understanding of the topics and the the words the phrases and the language people start to use. But it’s not enough by itself

    the

    reason why social media data is not enough by itself is that it is not an interactive conversation that permits you to ask somebody why so

    somebody expresses on on Facebook Hello, I really love

    this coffees flavor

    and you can make note of that and say, okay, all flavors in a dimension that you measure your copy by another person says, Oh, yeah, that copies really expensive. Okay. So and I have another little piece of information there. But none of that information will give you the answer to the question of, well, just how expensive does a coffee have to be before the price

    dampens your willingness to buy it even if you like the flavor, right? So you can see how we’ve we’ve identified some data pieces but have not synthesize them into a question that we can ask the audience

    now where a fair amount of market research goes wrong, particularly if it’s bargain basement research. There is such a thing and in research called reassuringly expensive, my friend Tom Webster Edison research says that real research should be reassuringly expensive, just like sushi and surgery should be sharing Lee expensive,

    where if the research is not informed by a lot of this, this exploratory analysis, and then you could end up with some stuff that’s not terribly helpful. But that’s where that online data gathering is helpful. But at the end of the day, there is no substitute for talking to people interactively live and it doesn’t necessary have to be with coffee, you could video chat with people and things like that. But you do want as much information about the conversation as possible. Imagine this, you’re talking to somebody and say, Hey, what’s your opinion of politician X, Y, or Z if you if you get just a typed response, that’s one thing, if you get an audio responses say, well, gosh, that person I disagree with them, okay, you can hear the tone of voice. But if you have the data from someone’s expressions, like

    I’m for those listening to the audio made a silly face,

    that says a lot to say, the closer you can get to in person, with all the tools for having conversations with people, the better data you’ll have, because you’ll be able to make note of those reactions. This is an area where

    until you get really fluent natural language generation, meaning machines that can have natural conversations

    as flawlessly as people do that you’re not going to be able to automate it. You cannot automate

    the completely unstructured flow of a conversation with today’s tools in mid 2013, the software is just not good enough to be able to pick up on something and say, oh, somebody there for a second. Why do you think that are or what things in your memory prompted you to have that perspective about

    about the coffee’s flavor

    or what tastes come out of that flavor? machines can do a lot and certainly machine should be being used aggressively on the automation front. Anything you can use to repeat to automate repetitive process. But a conversation isn’t and should not be a repetitive process. A conversation should be

    a highly individualized unique process each time you’re talking to somebody to get their perspectives. If you’ve just got the lowest possible paid work are out there asking questions from a sheet of paper, then yeah, you could probably do that with the machine. Because then you’re not going to get great interpretation and not going to get great follow on questions from from somebody who’s Louis just checking boxes as they asked questions.

    So

    that cup of coffee, or that beer or the video chat or, or that whatever is the most important tool, the most expensive tool, the least scalable tool, but the most valuable tool for staying in tune with your audience and for having conversations with them. One of the easiest ways I think to scale into that to the extent that you can, is for you to go to conferences and events and schedule roundtable schedule, customer advisory boards schedule, this coffee chats with people get their permission to record it, and then record these things, and have them banked as a set of guiding lights for your business to say this is when we talk to customers. This is what they say about our industry about the problems they have about the solutions they wish existed. If you do that, you’ll have a much better based on what to draw your marketing, your messaging, your customer service, your customer experience, all those things, see, but you absolutely positively need to be able to sit down with somebody.

    And

    if you’re not a great interviewer,

    you need to hire somebody who is

    one of the areas I’ve seen go home terribly wrong with market research is someone from a company asking very leading questions when the purpose is to explore, not to guide the person in certain direction, which to explore to figure out which direction should the company go. So again, it’s one of those things that is a skill you build up over time. And there are trainings and things for it. It’s actually not that dissimilar from being a really good interrogator for police or intelligence agency is being able to elicit responses out of people without guiding them in one direction or the other. You want to be able to get as much information from them as they can. And you want to be the voluntary as possible. If you want, you can actually go and download the US government has some unclassified, free public domain materials on interrogation techniques

    that were developed after World War Two, when, when the government realized it was not as effective to, you know, beat people in interrogations is much more effective effective to to befriend them to sit down over coffee with them and listen to what they have to say. So make sure that somewhere in your marketing and your market research and your your analytics infrastructure, there is room for human conversation and that is a structured part of your data intake to inform all the other stuff that you’re doing. It is the best way to answer the question of why something happened in your data. As always, thanks for watching. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel to the newsletter will talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Standardize Metrics and Measurement

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Standardize Metrics and Measurement

    Kevin asks, “How do we standardize metrics and measurement, especially when different parts of the company do things differently?”

    Great and very common question. The answer is, unsurprisingly, a framework:

    • Goal alignment
    • Exploratory data analysis
    • Model creation
    • Model validation
    • Model deployment
    • Adoption, training, and compliance
    • Measurement of compliance
    • Refinement and improvement

    If this sounds familiar, this is also the process for bringing machine learning models to fruition as well.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Standardize Metrics and Measurement

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    In today’s episode, Kevin asks, How do we standardized metrics and measurement across the organization special in different parts of the company do things differently? different business units have their own style of doing stuff? It’s a great and very common question, especially in larger companies and enterprises. The answer to

    this question is not surprising. It’s going to be a framework, it’s going to be a model for building a model, kind of a meta model, if you will. So let’s

    look at this on fact, to bring this up here.

    This is the process for putting together a an enterprise analytics system or standardization or framework or whatever you want to call it. It should look familiar, by the way, because this is also the model that we use for things like machine learning, and for data systems, and bi and all the technology that we want to deploy in a way that max Mises adoption and compliance.

    So let’s go through this for the first part is goal alignment, what goals are we trying to align our system with?

    What are the business goals that everything has to roll back up to, if we don’t have that clearly defined and written out, nothing’s going to work here, because everyone’s going to keep trying to address their own specific goals, instead of the big picture goals, we need to make sure that we have those goals documented, and that we have the process for the obtain them documented, and frankly, the governance who’s in charge of these different goals, having that document to because if you don’t have those stakeholders clearly mapped out, you’re going to create something that nobody’s gonna want. So that is super important. That’s why this comes first. Second, is exploratory data analysis, given that we understand the goals, what are all the systems that feed into those goals, there’s a little worksheet that I typically use that has, you know, the KPIs, people normally measure with the business goals, and you try and connect the dots to see how things get put together. But exploratory data analysis is super important. It requires statistics and data analytics tools, it may require some machine learning, it may not, but it requires you to take all the, the the KPIs and metrics that you’ve got, and essentially do mass statistical analysis to figure out what of all this data that we collect actually has a mathematical relationship with the outcomes we care about. So very, very important. The third step is creating that framework, once you have the math proven out, and you create a framework and say, Okay, these are the things that are important. So on the marketing side, for example, very silly example, let’s say that you’ve gone and, and connect to all your social and search and email and referral traffic, and all that stuff. And, and it turns out that email sent on Thursdays plus tweets containing emoji are the thing Great, now, you create a model for that saying, hey, these are the things that we need to do. And when we validate the model we tested, we will want to prove that this is the case. And so what you go through and, and you you document out all the things that that mathematically have relationship. And that brings us to the next stage, which is validation. So now that we’ve got this model, now we test it and we say, okay, hey, Social Media Manager, tweet more emoji, and see what happens, right? Hey, email team sent two emails on Thursday instead of one, or make sure you send an email every Thursday instead of every other Thursday with the

    intent to prove causality. One of the the biggest traps and the oldest traps in analytics is making the assumption the correlation is causality. That’s not the case, you have to prove it through the scientific method. That’s what the validation stages validation is, essentially using the scientific method to rigorously prove that the data you’ve collected is causal in nature. And, and can we translate it as such, one, you’ve validated your measurement model, your metrics model, then you roll it out, that’s where we get to deployment. And that means taking all the systems that you’ve engineered up to this point, and transforming them into production systems, to taking them out of test environments, making sure that they are secure, which is a really big deal, making sure that they are idiot proof, I guess,

    but require the minimum amount of hand holding, so that the system can scale up as fast as possible. And deployment can take a long time, depending on how complex the system you’ve built, it can take months, possibly even years, because you need to do it right, you need to make sure that everybody who gets it can adopt it and work with it. The next second stage is adoption. This is adoption of the system, which means training, which means development, which means compliance. Just like if you were rolling out of medication at a hospital, you’d want to make sure that your your users were complying with it, they were actually using it. So making sure that you’ve got this framework in place, and that you’re measuring the next stage is measuring that compliance, what are people doing are people using system I mean, not using the system if you if that’s not the case, then gland going back to the beginning with that goal alignment, that governance process is when you identified all the people who have a stake in this thing, this when you’re at the adoption and measuring phases, you have to go back and check on those people and say, Are you using the system, why you’re not using system if you’re not what needs to be improved if you are using it, and what are the consequences of a failure to comply. So if it’s, you know, if there are people in the company who are just not doing the thing, even though they’ve received a directive from high end up, again, back to the goal line, but section, you’ve got that executive buy in you, you’ve you’ve established that. And so now we get to the adoption phase, it’s like, you got to do the thing, because everybody who signed on to this project said they were going to do the thing. So do the thing.

    If in the measurement phase, you find that people are not doing the thing, they’re not using the model, they’re not using the systems with the software, that’s when you go into the improvement face. And the improvement face doesn’t necessarily mean improvement of the model and improvement, maybe improving the people improving the processes that the model needs in order to be functional, because chances are hopeful you worked out a good number of the bugs in the creation and validation stage. The improvement maybe improving the uptake of the model and its participation. There will of course, be things like software changes, software updates, as technologies change, that improvement and refinement process is always ongoing, and then brings us full circle back to goal alignment. So you’ve developed Do you’ve deployed this thing, it’s in place,

    it is proven it is functional people are using it great is is it delivering the impact that you want? If not, we go back to gold alignment. Okay, was there something that got missed the company’s business change, did technology change so substantially, that all the efforts to that point have been nullified again, that’s a real risk when you’re talking to three four year deployments for massive massive systems. So anybody who’s been through an ER p system deployment, how much fun it is and how quickly it doesn’t go and, and you can see why the cycle has to be iterative and ongoing. If you want to kick it up a notch if you can kick it up a notch because your company culture supports it, take a look at this model and then transform it with agile using agile methodology instead of one big waterfall process. How do you do this in an iterative fashion that allows you to upgrade your standardization upgrade your metrics, measurement and model on a rapid frequent basis. You need to have it in place first, you can’t sort of iterate through the plane. So trying to fly at least the first pass but after that, how do you upgrade those efforts to using an agile model if your company culture supports it? So great question. common question, complex question. This is something that’s going to take a very long time it will not be something that is easy or overnight even for the smallest companies because again, that exploration that model creation that model validation using analytics using data science using machine learning, not something that is an overnight thing despite our best wishes. So great question. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    You Ask, I Answer_ There Are No Best Times for Social Media

    Mike asks, “What is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?”

    This is largely a pointless exercise now in many respects. There aren’t magical times when social media works with any level of specificity, even for your audience.

    What should you be doing instead? Determining with a much greater understanding who your audience is. Once you know who your audience is, days and times take care of themselves if you understand human behavior. Couple that with creating content worth consuming and audiences will make time for you.

    You Ask, I Answer: There Are No Best Times for Social Media

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    In today’s episode Mike asks what is the latest thinking on the best times to post on social media?

    There isn’t any there shouldn’t be because this is a

    an intellectually bankrupt question and no offense to Mike because I’m sure Mike is probably someone who’s been asked this by his superiors to come up with a a pat magic answer to their social media issues.

    But the question is the wrong question. There are not magical times that social media to suddenly springs to life and, and and, you know, you all of your woes are solved as a marketer doesn’t happen.

    What this quite line of questioning is indicative of is someone or an organization that’s asking of someone to find easy answers and there are

    aren’t any there are no easy answers. When it comes to social media. There are no easy answers when it comes to marketing. It’s a lot of hard work. So what is the correct or the the more inquisitive, or the less incurious answer to this question, what should you be doing? instead?

    The answer is to determine with much greater understanding who your audience is. And it may be a whole bunch of miniature audiences in one and then understanding how those people behave you once you understand who your audience is, dates and times, take care of themselves. Let me get walk you through a couple of examples. Let’s say that you are a b2c brand and you discover through tools like Facebook Audience Insights, Google Analytics, audience analysis, Twitter, Audience Insights, whatever the tool is that you use that the majority of your followers or your fans or your website traffic or whatever happens.

    To be college students, is there a best day or time to post on social media for college students? Well, think about what a college student does. All right, during weekdays, there’s certain days and times when Yeah, they’re probably on their phones doing stuff on the weekends, are there days and times that they’re doing stuff that, you know, hasn’t engaged with their device? Yes, absolutely. There is.

    I’m gonna say that probably not engaging with your brand Saturday night

    at 11pm, maybe one of the highest engagement times but they’re not engaging with you. They’re engaging with their friends. Right.

    And then think about the seasonality. So

    from September through early December, yes, they’re engaged

    in certain activities and they’re on break and then during the summertime they’re on break. And if your audience is international students, guess what sometimes gonna have a very different pattern than a domestic

    So you get the example here the your audience is not just some a more of his blob of people from what you can extract top line data and expect to get good results. There are a lot of sub audiences within your group if you are a b2b company are there days and times that work better than others? Well yes if people are at work then Monday through Friday is generally better but

    there are also people who Sunday evening like to get their their work together organize their week, there are people who are working in startups who are burning the midnight oil seven days a week so if you don’t know what companies your audience works for, then you may be making assumptions about them being say a fortune 500 or fortune 10 very regimented work week when fact that they’re all startups there’s no regimentation at all even time of day may wildly very

    if you’re

    Audience works for agencies for examples, if that’s one of your market or your markets, guess what? A whole bunch of agencies have summer Fridays. So you need to understand who the audiences and how they behave as people in order to be able to understand the times and days when,

    when they’re going to react to your content.

    Are their periods of time when your audiences naturally more curious about what your product or services? Absolutely, and this is something you would get, say, out of search data you would look in, in all of your search analytics to see when are people actually searching for our product? When do they care about our product? When does our product solve a problem? Or when do they have that problem that is going to be a lot more informative for you. Then just wondering, in general when to post on social media.

    If you are if you have development capabilities, or you work with Trust Insights that you will be able to get predictions and

    forecasts of of different types of searches. Sometimes people are searching for their problems. Sometimes people are searching for their solution. Being able to understand both gives you a sense of what content you should be publishing and when. And honestly one of the the simplest, it’s not easy. One of the simplest things you can do to get an understanding of your audience is to go talk to them, have customers for coffee, call them up on the phone, email them interact with them on social media, not from a scheduling perspective or pushing content perspective but just have a conversation with them hey hey I got 15 minutes would like to know how I can serve you better as as a marketer is there content that

    that you’re missing their questions that you have that we’re not answering tell us what we’re doing wrong. One of the easiest ways to to elicit information from people without making them run in fear of you because they’re gonna they’re afraid you’re gonna try.

    Sell them a whole bunch of stuff is to ask them, Hey, what are we doing wrong? What don’t you like, right? Because that automatically sets frames in this slightly negative fashion. But in doing so

    it’s logical natural that you’re probably not going to push a sale on them if they already don’t like you. So asked me for that candid feedback, what can we be doing better? What are we blogging about? That you don’t care about? What do you know what’s in our newsletters? What’s on our Twitter channel? ask people what do you want to see more of what and and if you do this on a regular frequent basis, guess what? As you do those interactions as you talk to people, as you get information from your audience, you are also already solved the date and time question because people will respond to you when they have time, right? So you don’t necessarily need to guess when is your audience most active you just need to ask them questions and questions that you legitimately care about the answers to and that helped the audience do their work better and solve their problems.

    So

    there is no best day in time. But they is understanding the audience and how they live, how they work, how they behave, what problems they have, what solutions you offer that solve those problems and

    and how you can do that best to fit them. Because guess what? If you really solve people’s problems, if you help people make their lives better, you don’t need to worry about date and time, people will make time for you, right? Netflix doesn’t have to worry about when people watch necessarily, right? They have to make great content that convinces people guess what I want to binge watch this entire series this whole weekend. I’m gonna give my weekend and watch this thing, right? So Netflix has to care more about what do people really want to watch then necessarily trying to schedule stuff, right? They just have to make sure that their stuff is of such high value. People will make the time for them. You have to do the same thing people will make the

    Time for your content. So Mike, change your thinking to how can I serve people best? How can they give the most value and people will make the time for you. As always, subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Google Analytics Goals for Ungated Content

    You Ask, I Answer_ How to Set Up Google Analytics Goals for Ungated Content

    Marc asks, “How do I set a goal for ungated content? I want to give away something but still be able to track it.”

    The reason for setting up ungated content tracking is that it lets you feel more comfortable giving away content instead of putting everything behind a registration wall. Some organizations are notoriously scared of giving away anything, believing that we must ask for value before we give any value.

    The best practice is a two-part answer and requires both Google Analytics™ and Google Tag Manager™. You always want to use Tag Manager for this sort of thing because of its capabilities when it comes to tracking user interactions. Watch the video for the complete walkthrough.

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Set Up Google Analytics Goals for Ungated Content

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    In today’s episode Mark asks, How do I set up a goal in Google Analytics for gated content, I want to build a good something way, but still be able to track it. Now, the reason you would want to set up a goal for gated content is that it lets you as a marketer feel more comfortable about giving away your content, instead of putting everything behind a registration wall or pay wall. Some organizations, some bosses are notoriously scared of giving away anything, they’re like, no, everything’s got to be registered with otherwise, we don’t know whether it’s working or not. But we know that people are not necessarily comfortable putting on all their information to a forum just to get a piece of content that they’re frankly not sure it’s going to be worth it. So

    how do we how do we do this, how do we do this in a way that satisfies our boss, but also satisfies the customer. The best practice is to use Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager together, you always want to use Google Tag Manager for the sort of thing because of its tracking capabilities. It has capabilities that analytics does, but it would require a lot of jumping through hoops. So let’s go ahead and go through how to do this first, in Google Analytics. Let’s create a new goal here, I’m just going to resist old gold slot, we’re going to go into step one cut and just choose a custom goal. Step two, we’re going to choose a goal type. Let’s name this download PDF. And we’re going to choose an event

    it continue Step three, what we want to do a specify what type of things someone’s going to be doing. So category, we’re gonna call this a download action will say, they’re going to click on the PDF and label is going to repeat, name these whatever you want, but keep them consistent. What I recommend you do is actually a screenshot this so that you remember what you typed. So we’ve got this all set up here, you can specify any a value in the goal. Or if you want to specify an arbitrary value, you’re not sure what it’s worth yet in the conversion process, you could specify the here for that sake, I’m going to use $1 as the conversion value. And again, if you’ve done the work to identify, understand what the value of a download is, then put that in either in the goal in the event trigger later on, or put it here, if you’re not sure to put a one for right now, we’re going to hit save.

    And now done. So we’ve done the download part, we’ve done the goal itself in Google Analytics, Google Docs is saying, I’m ready to listen, let’s go to Google Tag Manager. Now, in Google Tag Manager, we now have to create the announcement that Google Analytics is going to listen to or so let’s call this let’s go to tags. First, we’re going to create a new tag, we’re going to call this download PDF, you can again, name it whatever you want, this part is arbitrary, we’re going to choose Universal Analytics, we’re going to use an event the event is, hey, I’ve done something. Now, this should look very familiar. We’re going to specify download the action is click on label is PDF, whatever, you named it in Google Analytics, name it here, if you want to put the value here. Like if you want to be able to specify different PDFs, you certainly could have, they could have different values, make sure you specify whatever your Google Analytics website value your tracking code is, that should be pre configured when you set up Tag Manager previously, if you haven’t done that there are other videos for that sort of thing. So we’ve got all this setup here. Now. Next, what we want to do is want to set up the trigger that says, hey, this is when to do this. Google at Google Tag Manager offers a huge number of triggers. I’m going to put a PDF, click where call this one is going to be a new trigger just for this purpose. And you’ll look here just link so people are going to click on a link we can skip the these things here. And we want to specify some link clicks and we want to specify the click URL contains dot PDF. Now if there’s a specific PDF you want to track, you would put the name of it here like I don’t know free paper PDF, but if you want to track all the PDFs on your website, which would include PDFs that are hosted on somebody else’s website so make sure you’re clear if you want a PDF that’s on your site or any PDF click on your that you’ve linked to in all your blog content, whatever that it goes here and hit save. And now what’s happening is this event will happen when Google tag manager says hey, I just saw somebody click on a PDF link on my website fire the tags will hit Save here

    and now we will publish this change

    and

    now we are all set what we’ve done is we told Tag Manager listen for whenever a user clicks on a PDF on a website tell Google Analytics Hey, this event is happening Google Analytics says got it I heard that event I’m going to turn it into a goal and say that the goal happen and and report it accordingly. Now you can do other stuff but this this to now that you know how to set up that trigger and that trigger is already preset, you can reuse it, you could set up other tags. So for example, if you’re using remarketing for example or Converse set as a conversion for AdWords you could link it to other types of conversions you could use custom HTML and change the contents of the page and of course if you using any of them, you know dozens and dozens of technologies that Google Tag Manager supports out of the box or with some custom code you could for example add someone to a retargeting audience when they have when they’ve clicked on something of value so you could run a an ad campaign for and gated content but still be able to track when somebody does something and then remark it to them later which is a very very powerful tool so great question mark. It is a little more complex than you know your average Google Analytics goal but this gives you the freedom to have some engaging content on your site to satisfy your customers your potential customers while still satisfying the boss and say hey we are tracking this we know how our contents performing we can show you some some results for this we don’t know who necessarily yet but we’ve got everything in place that we wanted to do retargeting and remarketing and and collect leads from those people

    later on down the road. They’re all tagged and ready to go. So great question. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Best Practices in Using Marketing Data

    You Ask, I Answer_ Best Practices in Using Marketing Data

    Magdalena asks, “Can you share two or three good practices of using data in tracking our efforts?”

    Great and important question. Many marketers don’t have, for one reason or another, a solid understanding or past experience in statistics. Let’s look at a few of the most basic rules that apply, especially when we’re digging into data.

    • Correlation is not causation
    • Never manipulate the data to prove a point of view; always start with the scientific method
    • Understand how representative your data is or isn’t
    • Represent your data faithfully and accurately
    • Understand the p-values, margins of error, and statistical significance in your tools and data

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, Can you share two or three good practices of using data and tracking our

    efforts?

    I want to pivot on this question, because there’s an important question here. And that is some of the best practices in using our data, understanding some basic statistical and mathematical principles that

    for one reason or another, many marketers may not have that solid understanding or past experience in using this kind of data. Yet, it’s important because we will make a lot of claims from our data and not necessarily be able to back up those claims, it won’t, we won’t be able to present in a way that inspires confidence in what we’re reporting. So let’s look at a few of the most basic rules number one, by far one almost done was hurt cause correlation is not causation. When we look at our data, we have to understand that a correlation and association between two variables does not mean that one variable causes the other the most famous textbook example of this is

    the number of deaths due to drowning in the summer goes up, and so does the number of bottom ice cream eating during the summer goes up. So of course, ice cream causes drowning. Now we know intuitively and can prove out in the data that the the confounding variable, the interfering variable, there is summertime, it’s the weather is is what’s caused us both to go up. So in a marketing sense, understanding that, for example, just because our social media traffic goes up, or our social media engagement goes up, and our Google Analytics web traffic goes up does not necessarily mean that one follows the other, we have to prove that using the scientific method. Which brings me to my second principle, which is never ever manipulate the data to prove a point of view, this is something that really only the worst marketers do. And the reasons for do it, most of the time are not malicious, most of the time is to cover your in front of executives and stakeholders and stuff, but don’t do it. Because it always always comes back to bite you. Instead, what you should be using is the scientific method, which is the asking of a question, the gathering of the data, the creation of a hypothesis that you proved true or false than the the testing at analysis, and then refine it, and then deployment of your observations or the refining of your hypothesis based on all the test results. on yesterday’s episode,

    it talked about how I was doing some testing on my newsletter to see which newsletter performs better what type of algorithm to put the content together, this is something I want to test, I have a hypothesis that focusing on click through rate for content that I curate will lead to best performance in email. But I’m not going to manipulate the data in any way to try and show that I’m going to use the scientific methods testing. So that’s number two. Number three is understanding how representative our data is or is not. And this is really important when it comes to any kind of sampling, any kind of surveying or any kind of qualitative data analysis where we are extracting data, there is no way we can extract all the data on many topics, I was doing a piece of work recently on some Yelp reviews, there’s no way I can extract every Yelp review, it’s not realistic, those, this will be more being created. So I have to create a sample. And in order to make that sample valid, I have to make it representative of the population as a whole. So I couldn’t just say, I’m going to sample only Chinese restaurants in Boston and and then extrapolate that to all restaurants everywhere, that would be extremely foolish. And so I would need to make that sample much more representative. Many times when we’re doing marketing, particularly when work in a social media data, we are intentionally or unintentionally taking samples. And we need to understand how representative of the population as a whole our data is, if we don’t understand it, that that’s what biases are in our data, we probably shouldn’t use it or the very least we should provide great big flashing warnings talking about how

    how, how biased our, our our data may or may not be based on our best understanding of it really important, and any kind of tool or software vendor you’re working with, that needs to disclose any kind of sampling limits or any kind of representation limits in the date. If they don’t, you can be making really bad decisions based on highly biased data. One of the most common biases here is social media tools that purport to measure influence that use one network only most tools, particularly some of the more primitive ones rely only on Twitter data, which because Twitter’s API has traditionally been very, very open and accessible. Well, if all of your influences are on Instagram, and try and use Twitter data to calibrate you’re going to get a bad result. So understanding again, how representative that data is or is not. The fourth is to represent your data faithfully and accurately.

    And this is important when you’re doing charts and graphs and things like that, if you don’t have the ability to, well, everyone has the ability to make their charts say whatever they want. But there’s best practices such as always starting the axes, horizontal and vertical at zero in bar charts, for example, so you can get a true sense of understanding what is in the data, always providing both the absolute numbers and the percentage values so that you can understand the proportions. But also understand how big a number this is, in our recent post on Twitter, bot losses. And, and politicians, we looked at one politician

    who lost 300 thousand followers and huge headlines, but it was point 6% of of that politicians audience It was a miniscule percentage. So understanding that we are providing perspective so that people could make a judgment about how important the event actually was, or was not. And finally, being able to test for margin of error, I think is so important. And understanding this, I’m actually going to switch over here to let’s take a look at our data. This is I’m running an A B test on my newsletter. And you can see one of the one of the tests here has, has already been crowned the winner. This is the leading test testing clicks versus page authority for social sharing. Versus

    there’s a fourth one that the variant I forgot to rename it

    algorithm, what do you see here, I see, you know, the parent, I see the, the three tests after that, and this one here, this third test has been crowned, the winner is this a statistically significant get resolved 197 cent, say, versus 248, 26

    clicks here, 30 clicks here, if we were to use software to test out what the p value is the likelihood of error, we see that this is a very high p value, P value should be point 05 or less most of the time, and the smallest p value the better. So having a point three indicates that there is potentially a significant issue here. But the software that I’m using, and this is true of so much marketing software is already crowning a winner, the The result is not statistically significant. So anytime you’re working with any kind of software, which is making a claim about something working better than something else, it needs to provide a p value, it needs to provide a margin of error needs to provide you the statistical back end, so that you can look at and go, yes, that result is valid or know that result is not valid. And if the result is not valid, you need to know that before you go and make decisions that could cost you

    potentially millions of dollars in revenue and marketing performance and things like that. If you don’t have statistics in your marketing software, push your vendor to build them in or change vendors and find somebody who does have that in because otherwise you could be making really terrible decisions. Again, if I were to say, Okay, well, this is clearly the algorithm I should be using for all my newsletters for now on. Well, no, I don’t know that. I don’t know that at all. And so I need to understand what exactly is involved in in the in the statistics of the software so that I can make an informed choice that would be my last tip is understand your your margins of error and your statistical significance in any time you’re working with analytics and marketing. So great question, Magdalena a lot of give you five and step two or three. But these are important principles for any kind of marketing software that you’re using that involves data and analytics. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel on the news letter. I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Favorite Marketing Data Tracking Tools

    You Ask, I Answer_ Favorite Marketing Data Tracking Tools

    Magdalena asks, “What are your favorite tools to track data and which one are you using on daily basis?”

    I’m a huge fan of source data, so whenever a practical API is available, I’ll use it.

    • For social media, I use Brand24 and Crowdtangle almost daily.
    • For owned digital, Google Analytics is my one source of truth.
    • For earned media, I use IBM Watson Discovery and GDELT, the BigQuery database that stores the back end feed of Google News.
    • For paid media, I use the APIs of individual ad platforms.
    • For search/SEO, I use AHREFS.

    Almost all these platforms are data sources. That’s an important distinction; most of the analytics in these platforms doesn’t suit my needs. In my day to day work at Trust Insights, I do most of my analysis in R, MySQL, and Tableau today. For reporting, when practical I use Google Data Studio.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, What are your favorite tools to track data? And which ones are you using on a daily basis? I am a huge fan of source data. So whenever API’s are available, I will use them. In fact, one of the criteria that I used to decide whether or not I wanted to work with a particular tool or vendor is what sort of data export Do they have Do they have the gold standard which is CSV, comma separated value files Do they have a JSON API that they have other forms of API’s, soap, XML, etc, do they have direct database access, where you can work directly with the back end. And the more data sources that a company has an the more that they are open and available to work with, the more likely it is I’m I’m going to use that tool because one of the things I found with a lot of marketing tools is that they are intended for the layperson marketer. And they are not intended for the the data driven marketer, the data driven marketer who would need to manipulate the data in ways that might not be foreseen by the vendor. And so that’s an important criteria. For me, I am a big fan of source data, like I said, so let’s take a look at some of the tools that I use on a daily basis. And on what data they supply. In terms of social media monitoring, I use brand 24, because it is relatively comprehensive, especially on the social networks less on on news and things and video because those are much more difficult API’s to parse. But it does a great job. And I can spit out into Excel, CSV formats and things and, and get data white Alba platform. This is the source platform I use when I make influencer graphs. Because I can

    drop a keyword in pull the data from an event that’s occurring, something like that, and, and get a really good insights from software I wrote to process the data a second what they use a ton more so now than ever is crowd Tango, which is a piece of software that was an independent company once, and then Facebook bought them. And it is bar none. One of the best data sources for Facebook, for Instagram, four Twitter and for Reddit, they can can export data, again, spits out in very nice CSV format. It also has an API, the CSV format, is actually more robust than the API with the API is, is heavily throttled. But you can get data out of crowd tangle that frankly, you can’t

    get anywhere else, including really good Instagram data

    for owned media media that are your digital properties. Is there any other source than Google Analytics? Well, I’m sure that you know, for some companies there are, but for what I use, and for what I recommend for clients, Google Analytics is is the one source of truth for owned media properties owned digital properties, where you can slap a tracking code on them. As part of that, of course, Google Tag Manager and the entire Google Mark marketing platform is is the tools that I use to track data there for earned media tracking the news specifically, I love Watson discovery. Watson discovery has a rolling 60 day window of news articles that are automatically tags, sentiment, concepts, hierarchies, and thanks. So it does a really good job of categorizing the news and then you can go right into Watson discovery and query the database and ask very specific terms builds queries and stuff. So it is a fantastic platform pay very powerful and for the first thousand queries every month totally free. So if you are a an earned media relations or program professional, if you’re a PR professional, this is definitely a data source you should be using.

    It has a learning curve to it. But once you get the hang of it, you will find that its ability to do really good analysis of data is fantastic. The other one I use is called g dealt G. Delta is

    an actual nonprofit project powered by Google. And it provides you with a back end to Google’s database of all the major news events that Google News sees 300,000

    stories day like yesterday, yesterday was the 12 when I’m recording this. So the yesterday 302,892

    news stories, which is just a phenomenal amount of news, but because it has a sequel interface, you can actually query the database as a data scientist or as a as a data analyst and get exactly what you want out of it in ways that you can’t do with traditional Google News. And of course, you can then dump it to your own Google Cloud account, and then export it to your own database for further analysis. But it’s a fantastic source

    for paid media. I, of course, use all of the different paid platforms like AdWords and stack adapted stuff, that they all have individual API’s and tools. And then for search and SEO, I use RF, the folks were kind enough to gift marketing over coffee with a a membership. So we’ve been aggressively using that to track and extract data, some fantastic tools,

    good data export. So again, data export so important, all these platforms that use all these tools, they use arm my data sources that and I I can’t explain emphasize that enough. It’s an important distinction. Most of the analytics in these tools and these platforms, they don’t suit my needs, I am admittedly not a normal marketer, I’m not the average person just

    trying to figure out what to put in, you know, this month’s slide deck that goes to the board. I am a data analyst, a data scientist in my day to day work at Trust Insights, I do most of my analysis of data and are the programming language, my sequel database and tablet, the visualization software. And then

    for reporting, particularly for clients. When practical, I try to use Google Data Studio only because it’s, it’s is an easily supported cloud environment for for great reporting. But for me, for my criteria of what is a favorite tool, it has to have robust data export, and it has to be in common, it used to work with formats and the date has got to be good, the data has got to be clean, and good and reputable. And that’s that’s another important distinction is all these tools because you’re very, very close to raw data, or in cases like Big Query that is absolutely raw data, you can validate that what you’re getting is the real deal is the good stuff. Same with crowd Tango, for example, and brand 24, you’re getting the individual pieces of data that you then have to go and summarize. But because you’re getting the you’re getting the the raw data, you can also look at and go, okay, something’s right or not right in it. And that is an important criteria as well for someone like me, where I need to be able to look at the raw data itself and, and validate Yep, this is good, or Nope, this is not good. Something’s wrong when you have a tool that just kind of side summarizes everything in in any easy to read chart. Cool. But you can’t decompose that chart and look inside and go, Hmm, something here doesn’t pass the sniff test. So

    great question. Magdalena. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Instinct Versus Data

    You Ask, I Answer: Instinct Versus Data 1

    Magdalena asks, “How much should our actions depend on what the numbers and indicators show us? Is there any space for what we feel works well, even if after a month or two, the results don’t prove that?”

    There’s plenty of room. First, consider the data. Data must meet the 6C Framework for Useful Data:

    •  Clean
    • Complete
    • Comprehensive/Cover
    • Chosen
    • Credible
    • Calculable

    When data fails to meet these conditions, experience and gut may be a better choice. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, How much should our actions depend on what the numbers and indicators show us? Is there any space for what we feel works? Well, even after a month or two, the results don’t prove that as a really good question. It is a question of instinct versus data. When do you trust your gut? versus when do you rely on the data? And there have been a number of articles written about this. There’s a piece in Harvard Business Review not too long ago about how up to 50% eventual decisions in the C suite, our gut decisions that people will have the data and they’ll be data informed, but in the end, the decision is made by God. Why is this and Is this the right way to go? Well,

    there is plenty of room for gut for experience for instinct if you will, because what that is, is that

    Just accumulation of data at a personal level in business, where if you’ve got 20 years of experience in your industry, of course, you’re going to have a very different perspective than, say, the newest intern or coordinator who’s just copying and pasting data out of spreadsheets. And so there is value in that experience. More importantly, there are conditions that you need to meet with data in order for it to be useful for making decisions. And an awful lot of the time our data does not meet those conditions. So let’s go ahead and actually bring this up here.

    These are the six conditions that data should meet the call the 60 framework of useful data and your data must meet these conditions. Otherwise, it’s going to fall apart and you shouldn’t make decisions on it. Number one, is it clean is it prepared and free of errors. So much data is not clean so much data is

    corrupted, there’s all sorts of problems with it. And so you clean data is the first one

    requirement. If your data is not clean, you can’t make decisions from it. The second easier data complete Mini, there’s no missing information. Anytime you load the data set, if you’re the first thing you do when you load that data set, you do exploratory data analysis. And in exploratory data analysis, the first thing I look for is missing values. Where did collection go wrong? It could be something as simple as, hey, our website was down for that day or something as complex and

    ish issues like, Well, you know, the, this person didn’t report the date or the key that they forgot to key it in and stuff. So it is it complete. The third condition is, is the data comprehensive? does it cover the question being asked, and this is a a condition that we see a lot of, especially in social media marketing. We see it in finance to some degree, but

    does the data answer the question being asked of it? So real simple question. Hey.

    What is our social media program or what is our influencer program doing for us? And someone will

    put a big pile of data on the table back the truck up, as we like to say around here and it and it’s all just like here’s the number of followers we have and stuff well followers as a part of that answer but there’s not a comprehensive answer it does not cover the spectrum of attribution analysis is only one tiny piece of you may have a lot of data that only answers 10% of the question. And so that your data has to be comprehensive, it must cover the spectrum of the answer that you’re trying to get. And the bigger the question is, the more likely it is that you’re going to have a very wide spectrum of of what that data is. So comprehensive is very important, especially when you’re talking about are we making a decision that is data driven

    again, imagine you pulled up a an app the app on your phone and you said I want to drive from my house to my office and

    The GPS app gave you 10% of the the road or 50% of the road. And and they just stopped. didn’t give any more data after that.

    That’s not good. You can’t You can’t drive with half the map. I mean, you can, but it’s not going to go very well. So your data must be comprehensive forth, the data must be chosen. Well, this is the inverse of comprehensive in that

    sometimes there’s too much data. Sometimes we just pour all the data on the desk, you’re like, Okay, well, here’s all the data we have. Well,

    that’s not super useful. Choosing the data well means removing stuff that is irrelevant moving stuff that is unimportant. And this is where things like especially an attribution analysis and KPIs and metrics

    we need to figure out what data actually matters a techniques like multiple linear regression and other statistical techniques, random forest etc. can help us figure out these are the data points to really pay attention to and these the ones that Okay, we’ll make sure that we have them

    We need them but they’re probably not all that important if you don’t have that choice that choosing function as part of your your data preparation and loading

    you’re going to end up with a lot of garbage in your analysis. A lot of stuff that you just it’s technically clean it’s technically complete it is part of the overall universe but it’s poorly chosen the fifth category is is the data credible? Was it collected in a valid way did somebody Miss key information did you did the person who was typing information where they drunk that day at work I hope not but

    credibility of data truthfulness of data is really important you know it was the data in any way manipulated was the sample size wrong was the sample pool wrong this is especially important when you’re doing things like public opinion and and polls and surveys. You were the survey questions biased

    If you don’t have credibility in your data, there’s an issue with web analytics. Think about as much as I love, love, love, love Google Analytics because it is sort of the one source of truth for a lot of what we do in the digital realm.

    Is it credible to use Google Analytics to answer questions for which Google Analytics is not a great measure, like in store traffic like that, you will see people walking around unless you’re pushing that data into the application through third party integrations. It is not it is not a credible data source for offline, right. So understanding that even great tools and highly credible data sources in one domain may not be credible in other domains. And finally, and this is one that I think is really important that we overlook is the data calculable meaning can it be worked with Can Can people who are not data scientists work with the data and that means things like reporting and stuff have to be

    simplified down.

    For the layperson to us, so that they can, they can get analysis and insights out of the data and work with it within the limits of their skills. So that’s important. And this your data has to meet these six conditions in order for you to make data driven decisions if these conditions are not met,

    or if if these conditions are, in some cases, very badly broken, then guess what, you are better off with instinct, you are better off with experiencing gut than you are with data because you you in this case, you’re making a decision with incorrect data really good example, say you’re driving along around your house or your where you live and and the GPS is saying, you know, go this way. Well, you know, from experience based on time of day based on how people behave and stuff that actually this is there’s another route that maybe is 30 seconds longer on paper, but really, I’ll save it five minutes.

    Because the route that the computer chose data driven by incomplete, right, it was it doesn’t know that at this time of day, some monkey always parks in the middle of the road and the other the other house called the yard keeping truck parked along the side. And traffic just gets all fouled up. And so your experience on gut, which is really just nothing more than aggregated data that you’ve collected in your head overrides that same is true here. So there is absolutely room for what we feel works well, as long as our own data we’ve collected is sound and especially if the data that we’re working with doesn’t meet the 60s if you don’t check those boxes. Yeah, absolutely. Switch to instinct and gut because your data is not going to help you in a may actually harm you. So great question. This is part of the brand 2040 series. So you’ll see this on the brand 24 website as well. Thanks to them for providing these questions and the monitoring software that we use at Trust Insights as always.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Establishing Marketing Key Performance Indicators

    You Ask, I Answer_ Establishing Marketing Key Performance Indicators

    Magdalena asks, “From your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?”

    It depends. What is the goal of your marketing? That’s what the key performance indicator is. I define KPI as, if this number goes to zero (or the maximum bad state), you get fired. So for every company, and every practitioner, that number will be different. For every industry, it will be different. For every company size, it will be different.

    The important thing is that a KPI has to have business impact. It has to, in some way, turn into dollars – and the closer it is to actual dollars, the more meaningful it is.

    Something that marketers should do as soon as possible is a multiple regression on all their marketing metrics, with their KPI as a target. Watch the detail for full answers about how to convert organizational KPIs into personal KPIs for everyone on your team.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, from your point of view, what are the main indicators of performance in marketing?

    Well, it depends

    what is the goal of marketing? What is the goal of your marketing because that’s what your key performance indicators going to be. And it’s going to be wildly different. Depending on your company, your industry, the company’s size, how you do business, and even very down to the practitioner down to the individual person, the marketing coordinator, just KPI is going to be very different than the CMOS KPIs as they should be.

    I think it’s important to define what a KPI is my definition that he uses if this number goes to zero, or whatever the maximum bad state is, but it is number goes to zero. You got fired, right? So the marketing coordinator at say, a massive fortune five company

    their personal KPI may actually be like yeah, you gotta guess more Instagram followers. And if you don’t, you’re fired, right? So that there’s a personal KPI there that that indicates whether that person is performing well or not. However, at a business level, at an organizational level, a KPI needs to have business impact. It needs to be it has to, in some way, turn into dollars. The only exception to this is when you have an outcome that is a non dollar outcome that your company or your organization is going after. And really the only non dollar outcome because even nonprofits for example, have things like donations and corporate donors and stuff like that to pay to keep the lights on the the only non dollar tangible outcome I can think of in as an example would be a politician seeking election where there’s a measurable outcome elected or not elected, but it is not a financial outcome. At least the election isn’t

    Is our collection isn’t Sorry, it’s maybe a little cynical.

    But in order for everyone else will have KPIs that are that have to turn into dollars. And the closer that your KPI is 2, the more meaningful it is, and the more valuable it is to your organization. So, for example, let’s take a in the b2b marketing world

    website traffic is pretty far away from dollars, right? It’s, you know, you got a whole bunch of stages, you know, some of the sales pipeline, they got like 44 stages in their CRM website traffic way on the end, and so it’s it’s really far away from dollars. On the other hand,

    if you were a super clever marketer and you’re using AI chat bots and all these crazy new technologies, and you could reliably deliver sales qualified leads or even real opportunities to your sales team. Guess what, that is a

    Very close to dollars. And so your performance as a marketer would be

    much more closely watched, but also much more valuable to the organization because you are delivering as close to dollars as you can get within your role. And so when you’re, we’re trying to decide what indicators to use for performance and marketing. The closer we are to dollars, the better. The same is true in any other industry. If you are

    if you’re working in b2c

    in retail, the closer you can get to know someone taking an idol off the rack and putting other register the better so if you are doing you know, end cap performance or in store walk ins and things those are much more valuable than say brand awareness that’s not to say that brand when there’s isn’t an important but it is part of the chain of evidence that gets you to take the item, put it on the register and and have the person checkout so that those KPIs need to be as close to dollars as possible. Now,

    you say welcome.

    Not everybody in the organization, whatever can have, you know the register checkouts or mortgage applications or or car sales or oil wells drilled as as their KPI that is true so what you need to do in order to get to get to take the business KPI and decomposes you need to do what in statistics was called multiple linear regression a multiple regression

    you’re going to take your KPIs laid out on a giant spreadsheet bought as with as as fine a resolutions you can get so maybe its monthly day a cool weekly did a better daily data great and then you’re going to take all your KPIs they’re going to be columns in the spreadsheet and then you take all your other metrics so social media followers mentions brand awareness clicks on ads

    newspaper articles, press releases sent out that day to talk shows that your your executives were on all that stuff everything you could possibly lay out

    into a spreadsheet that has a nonzero value.

    And then you’re going to run this statistical tests this multiple regression to figure out what combinations of variables have a strongest statistical relationship to your KPI. So it might be like, okay, with a number of Instagram comments, plus clicks on a pay per click ads, plus

    talk shows plus articles in our trade magazine plus number of conversations at conferences equals it has a strongest mathematical relationship to to sales or sales qualified leads or or store walk ins. Once you’ve done that math, you established correlation. And then the next step is to do testing and you say, okay, for whatever reason, Instagram comments plus

    videos on YouTube seem to have the strongest relationship. So let’s double the amount of work that we do on those variables and see

    If leads increases proportionally. So if we double the amount of YouTube videos that do well, and we double the amount of Instagram comments we get do leads also double,

    and that’s your test causality. Once you’ve tested causality, and you’ve established that, yes, this mathematical relationship is because these variables, cause the KPI. Now you have the ability to take those variables that you know cause the KPI and assign them to people like a Social Media Manager instead of followers on Instagram. Turns out that doesn’t have a mathematical relationship or causal relationship with leads, but comments containing the word great, do so make stuff that people comment, that’s a great, that’s your new KPI. Hey, pay per click management

    and now CPA around25 and click through rate above 10%. That’s your new KPI. And so you can decompose based on all of the metrics you have. You can decompose your business KPIs into individual KPIs, and everybody now knows what to focus on. And that’s so

    valuable because it means that instead of having to try and do everything, you focus on the stuff that is mathematically working 80% of the time, and then you leave 20% of your time and efforts to experiment with new stuff to always be testing and trying out new things. But if you do that, you’ll waste a lot less money, you’ll waste a lot less time trying to measure and do everything, you focus only on the things that you mathematically proven first, through correlation, then through testing and calls out to establish causality that works that generates the business outcomes that you’re looking for. Now that math is not necessarily easy, but it works because you’re you’re using the scientific method you are proving that what you’ve done will have a a real business outcome that is measured in dollars or as close to dollars as you are allowed to get in within your role so well, great question. The main indicators of performance and marketing or whatever is working to generate the

    Business outcome. Great question. This is also a part of the series for brand 24. So you’ll see this on the brand 24 website as well. If you have questions for you ask answer or for any of the the podcasts and blogs and stuff that that I do for myself and for Trust Insights, please leave it in the comments. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel and to the newsletter and we’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Career Focus Choices

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Career Focus Choices

    Magdalena asks, “What should be marketers’ main focus – numbers or creativity and innovation? Why?”

    The idea of asking someone to choose being qualitative or quantitative is inadvisable. People have natural aptitudes, and asking them to focus on something that isn’t their strength tends to yield mediocre results.

    The more important focus choice is whether a marketer is operations-focused or experience-focused. Customer experience is absolutely vital, as is marketing operations – but in larger companies, you must choose to focus on one branch more than the other. Which choice you make dictates hiring, team composition, and ultimately your brand’s effectiveness. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, What should marketers main focus be numbers or creativity and innovation? Why?

    I don’t think these are focus points. And the reason for that is numbers and quantitative data excellence and things and creativity, innovation out of the box, thinking

    two things. One, you can’t be either or most people are a combination of both. And these are attributes these are characteristics of the person. So some people have an aptitude towards the quantitative they love data, they love charts they love all the the slicing and dicing they’re very analytical thinkers, other people very creative thinkers they’re out of the box thinkers

    today with artificial intelligence and and the ability for machines to do very narrow

    Asked extremely well, you really need to be both, although it is has since been proven neurologically untrue. The idea of left brain and right brain still is a a false dichotomy. You need to be both brain, right? You need to be able to do both things,

    the greater challenge, I think, if if marketers have to put a focus somewhere, it’s not on trying to change themselves to be something that they’re not. If yes, absolutely, you should always have a lifetime of learning and development and, and experimenting in creative tools, experimenting in quantitative tools. But if there’s a focus that you have to choose from, because both can be very overwhelming it is whether you are business focused or customer focused. And again, just like left brain, right brain, you can’t just do one but because of the scope and the scale of being very business focused on what we were

    Marketing operations or being customer focused on what is customer experience and and buyers journey customer journey

    unless you work at a very small company you can’t really specialize in either one

    well especially working small company you can specialize another one you have to do both and then as you work a bigger companies you started to have a path where you are on more on the operation side or you are more on the experience side that’s to me is is where you have to make a choice as marketers to what you want to be known for what you want to be good at and what tools and systems and technologies you will specialize in because they are very different marketing operations tends more towards things like automation, CRM,

    it making sure that that marketing happens and there’s still absolutely stuff like focus groups and surveys and stuff to to get a sense of what customers think.

    But you really are working towards furthering the goals of the business and you’re working towards making marketing operating as efficiently and as effectively as possible. On the experience side, you are all in on voice of the customer, you are all in on the customer journey and the paths touch points analysis, attribution analysis and understanding customer behavior, psychology, understanding, neurology understanding how the human being makes decisions and then optimizing your marketing to those decision pathways. It there’s a lot of data mining and a lot of exploration. What are people saying about a product? What are people saying about our competitors to understand that experience that they have in trying to do path analysis and so that’s where marketers have to make a strong choice in focus in their careers. Now, you heard a lot of the same tools in both sides data analysis activity.

    analysis, path analysis, things like that. So it’s not again, it’s not left brain, right brain creative risk quantitative, you need both attributes to be successful. Or you need to have a team that

    compensates for where you are not as strong. But what does that mean focus is going to be are you working on making a marketing function more efficiently and effectively? Or are you working more on serving the customers needs so that the customer is endlessly delighted by everything that you do?

    And by the way, that’s not just Product Marketing. A lot of people think customer experience is Product Marketing, how can we make the product work better the way the customer wants it to? It’s much more about the experience the customer is actually exposed for the first time they become aware of your brand all the way through owning and being a loyal advocate for your brand. And that is a discipline a career path it is is a massive change in focus for the average marketer.

    And so that’s where you your marketing focus has to be. If you are managing a team of marketers, you need to split your operations about 5050, who’s going to be on the operations side, making marketing run, who’s going to be on the experience side, making the customer happy. If you default towards one of those disciplines,

    the other suffers, the other can be neglected and you will pay a price for it. If you are less focused on operations and marketing will not run as well. stuff will fall through the cracks, things will not run as well.

    If you ignore the customer experience, you’re going to be in an obnoxious, annoying marketer, you’re going to be the one you’re gonna be the person who’s you know, we have this cadence, we need to hit

    the Email button every three days. We need between 22 times a day and it will all be stuff that nobody wants because you are focused solely on the operations and being very company centric, that you won’t be customer centric. Thanks.

    So that’s where the risks are.

    Great question

    again, because people think that they have to make a choice about being something that they’re not. It can be a very misleading question. So instead of choosing quantitative, quantitative, choose operations, focus with some in informed experience on the customer experience side, or choose customer side with some focus on the operation side, and you have to do both. Again, these are all false choices. You must be everything in a lot of ways, but choose one of those two disciplines to add focus to to become better at so tough question. Great question. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Without Data

    You Ask, I Answer_ Marketing Without Data

    Magdalena asks, “Can you run effective marketing without data?”

    Yes, you can, under certain conditions:

    – You lack scale, so you can talk to customers all the time and get an accurate sample of what your customers want and need
    – Data is not an essential ingredient to your business
    – You are okay with a ceiling on your growth

    We marketed for hundreds of years without modern marketing and data capabilities by having an absolute focus on the customer and guessing right a fair amount of the time. That, combined with limited channels of communication, made marketing without data very possible. The best companies over the decades collected smaller amounts of data and made great guesses, as well as some terrible ones (like New Coke).

    Today, as smartphones and smart devices take over every aspect of our lives, marketing without data is significantly harder, but as long as you continue to serve the customer, you’ll guess right more often than not.

    That said, if you don’t like guessing, then you can’t run effective marketing without data.

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    In today’s episode, Magdalena asks, Can you run effective marketing? Without data? Yes, absolutely, you can think about the history of marketing marketing has been around for decades, if not hundreds of years, Modern Marketing certainly has been around for decades, marketing itself. I mean, technically, as soon as the first store was invented, in pre historical, you know, in, in pre modern times, that bizarre merchant shouting out his wares to the to the passers by, that’s marketing. So, absolutely, marketing has functioned. Without modern data analysis capabilities for very long time now

    can what are the conditions under which you can market effectively without data, number one, you lack scale,

    you’re okay with that, that that lack of scale, so that you in and the people who work for, you can talk to customers all the time, and get a

    true sense of what the customer actually wants.

    And again, this is not new,

    even relatively big companies in decades past were able to talk to customers do surveys, do focus groups, things like that,

    just get a sense of what the customers actually want, and actually need

    today, obviously, that’s a little bit harder. But if you’re okay, with, you know, not becoming a massive conglomerate overnight, then yes, you can market without data. The second is that data is not an essential ingredient to your business. So if your business is a data based business, then obviously, you’re going to need to market with data. If you if it’s not, if what

    you do is you just love to make people happy by making a certain kind of food or, or things like that, then yeah,

    you can market without data, because the, the data is not an essential ingredient to your business. Third, if you’re okay, with a ceiling on your growth, if you’re okay with being a cap that we’re after, which you’re not going to grow, then you don’t need to use any data without marketing, other than what you do when you’re interacting with customers on a daily basis.

    Marketers, like I said in the beginning,

    they’ve marketed without modern data systems for decades, if not centuries, and the most successful ones stayed in tune with the customer. They talked to customers, they were out in the field every day, they were at the store front everyday, whatever the cases, they were talking to people every single day, about the business about what the customer needed, and things like that. And they guessed right, they guessed right a fair amount of the time. And they may, they were able to make a product a hit, because they guessed what the customer wanted. Steve Jobs was legendary for this. He guessed what people wanted and a fair amount of the time he was right even things that he wasn’t necessarily right about at the time, eventually ended up being reasonably right guesses like the Newton was their handheld device in back in the late 90s, it didn’t do very well. But the handheld device with machine learning recognition, very, very primitive at the time of handwriting, and things, of course, eventually became the iPad. And so he was known for being able to guess what the consumer wanted. They were there are tons of cases where companies did not guess right about a product and new coke. For example, for those of you with a little more grain your hair, you remember that Coca Cola tempted to change their recipe, it didn’t go so well. Today, that’s a lot harder to do. There is for a couple reasons. One was smartphones, smart devices, all these things have taken over our lives. And so they are transmitting a lot more data, which means that if if you choose to not use data as a company, your competitors are. And so they have substantial competitive advantage over you in terms of what the customer is saying, what the customer is doing, and things like that. And so marketing without that data is very, very difficult when your competitors are using data, this data, arms race and second, customers

    or companies, I should say, have substantially less appetite and tolerance for risk companies now don’t want to guess they don’t want to waste years and potentially millions or billions of dollars on a product that the customer doesn’t want. And so data is absolutely essential to marketing to inform that marketing to inform product development in the marketing of something so that they have a guaranteed hit so that they have or it’s close to a guarantee is they can get really good example of this. And, and one that that shows you one of the risks of relying too much on data is hollywood, hollywood is not made an original movie in a really long time, we are up to what Avengers four and Iron Man for

    All of these relatively uncreative formulaic

    movies, because

    that’s what the audience wants. And there there isn’t enough research to show that it’s worth taking a risk on a completely new formula that the audience may hate, because movies tape cost 10s of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars, except for the little indie breakouts. And so

    today, marketing without data is substantially harder,

    can you

    be effective as a marketer? Yes, particularly if you are a more senior marketer, and you have other people who are good at data, who can provide some of that, even if it doesn’t necessarily drive decisions, at least informs your decisions. The New York Times had a great piece on this not too long ago, about being the difference between data driven and data informed data and foreign means that you take it into account as one of the factors in what you choose to cover are not carry but you don’t dictate your business solely based on the data, which is what data driven is. So can you be effective in marketing without data? Yes,

    but as much, much harder than it used to be. And you have to work for a company that is extremely risk tolerant and because you’re going to be guessing all the time and

    there’s a good chance you’re not going to guessed correctly.

    They’re very, very few people who are who are Steve Jobs in any industry these days. So great question. Interesting question. This is actually a part of a series from brand 24. So we’ll be

    sharing

    this with them as well so on their blog, but a great question. As always, please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel will talk to you soon. Take care

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