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One of the perennial questions I get every year is whether I’m going to SXSW. The answer, unsurprisingly, is no. It’s not because SXSW isn’t a great show, one of the largest, with lots of incredible people at it. There are plenty. It’s not because it’s not fun – it is. The reason I don’t go is because I don’t work very well in the SXSW-style environment. It’s not because of the show, but my own personal shortcomings and perspective.

What environment is that? It’s a very busy, very attention-grabbing environment. When you pack hundreds of thousands of people into one area and a good chunk of them are either media or marketers, everyone tries to stand out really hard, shouts really loud (both metaphorically and literally), and tries to be seen. Nothing wrong with that, but that’s not an environment that I do particularly well in.

I don’t love large crowds in general (and after watching Apollo Robbins, you might not either), but I especially don’t work well in an environment where you have to initiate lots of surface random connections. That’s just not my style. There are plenty of people who do, who thrive in that sort of social butterfly situation, and for them, attending SXSW isn’t just a good idea, it’s also probably one of their most favorite events of the year.

So no, I won’t be at SXSW this year and haven’t ever been. For those who are going, I hope you have a wonderful time, meet lots of new people, be safe and smart, and enjoy great success from the event. It promises, as always, to be a legendary event.

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Quick, what Facebook metrics actually matter? Likes? Comments? Shares? The answer is… all of the above, and yet none of the above. What actually matters is engagement, which is a composite number of likes, comments, shares, re-shares, etc. Facebook sums all of this up in a number in your Page Insights called People Talking About This. Here’s what the official text says:

“Daily: The number of people sharing stories about your page. These stories include liking your Page, posting to your Page’s timeline, liking, commenting on or sharing one of your Page posts, answering a question you posted, responding to one of your events, mentioning your Page, tagging your Page in a photo or checking in at your location. (Unique Users)”

Facebook’s algorithms pay close attention to these behaviors, these activities. If you’re a Page manager, you’ll find this in the Insights download:

Download your spreadsheet of Page metrics and open it up in the spreadsheet software of your choice. Look for two columns, Daily People Talking About This (PTAT) and Lifetime Likes:

Think of these two columns as the number of people you did reach and the number of people you could have reached. Divide Daily PTAT by Lifetime Likes and you get a sense of how much engagement you’re actually getting on a day to day basis…

Take a look at those numbers. On my best day, my Facebook page is getting 1.47% engagement. Now you might say, well, that’s because maybe I just suck at Facebook. I did a bit of digging, though, and looked at a well-respected non-profit: 0.14% engagement on day to day engagement vs. total potential audience. Major consumer brand with big audience and a beloved product? 0.95% engagement. Super-hot consumer startup with a product that’s on fire and getting major coverage? 1.65% engagement.

Is it any wonder that brands simply have resorted to getting out the credit card and paying to play?

If Facebook isn’t delivering results for your brand any more, if your numbers look like these, you have two basic choices: you can either reduce the resources allocated to it, or you can pay to play. Either way, what you’re doing right now probably isn’t working as well as you’d like. Run this simple engagement math on the Facebook Pages you manage and see how your day to day engagement is really doing.

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In the most recent episode of Marketing Over Coffee, learn what we think of WhatsApp, the smartest Girl Scout in the world, ridiculous desks, and much more:

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What’s the one step I miss constantly in retargeting, the one step that would save me money, save me time, and not irritate my buyers?

Knocking out purchasers. What’s the point of showing ads to someone who has already bought? This is the hardest part of retargeting, but it can be done if you’re willing to do the work (which is why I often forget to do this). Let’s assume you’re using either Facebook Custom Audiences or Google AdWords. Here’s how you’d spend less money on your ads.

In Facebook Custom Audiences, you’ll need to remove people from your audience segments. This is done by the same process you used to create a Custom Audience. If you have a list – conference attendees, book purchasers, etc. – then simply remove them from your custom audience with the add/remove option:

With Google AdWords, you’ve got a bit more of a hill to climb. First, you need to change up how you do retargeting in Google Analytics’ settings, switching from a generic retargeting URL or site-wide to specific conditions. This requires creating your own remarketing segments, rather than using the built-in ones. It also requires that you have a trackable landing page or goal for someone who has successfully completed a purchase. Assuming you have both of those things, create your own Conditions sequence that includes people who started the purchase process but didn’t finish it:

Above, we see people who visited my Marketing Red Belt book page but never got to the thank you page. Obviously, if you’re working with a vendor that doesn’t pass back personally-identifying purchase information (looking at you, Amazon), you’ll either want to switch to a vendor that does, or put a tracking call on the Buy from Amazon link outbound to knock out those people.

Knock out your buyers from your generic retargeting messages and you’ll spend less, not annoy existing customers, and have better ROI!

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Ever made a plain chocolate cake and found strawberries in the middle when you sat down to eat it?

Ever made a chicken dinner and found that you used pork instead?

These may seem like laughable, ludicrous examples, but they prove an important point: generally speaking, end results have their ingredients in them. If you set out to bake a chocolate cake and you didn’t put strawberries in during the baking process, it’s highly unlikely you’re going to get strawberries in it when the cake comes out of the oven. It’s highly unlikely that you’d put a turkey in the oven for Thanksgiving dinner and found when you served it to your guests that it was actually pork.

Likewise, generally speaking, most things that happen in life are the result of their ingredients, too. If your marketing program is filled with terrible content, chances are you didn’t start with great content and it just magically became terrible. It was probably not wonderful to begin with. If your religion or your political party is spewing hate, it’s because there is at least some hate in some of the people in your group. If your company is generally behaving unethically or illegally, it’s because there is at least someone in leadership that is condoning or perpetrating the bad behavior. Like the old Prego spaghetti sauce commercial, it’s in there.

There are no effects in life without causes. If you want to find out what’s wrong, whether it’s a failed marketing campaign, a failed marriage, a failed religion, a failed anything, work backwards from the effect you see. What could have immediately caused the effect you see? What caused that intermediary step? What caused that previous intermediary step? Work backwards from the end and you’ll find the answer. Sometimes, the answer is deeply unpleasant, particularly on a personal level. You may find, as I have many times in my life, that I am directly at fault for an effect I created.

Whatever effect you see, the cause is in there.

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Something that’s puzzled long-time Google Analytics users is why Google Analytics moved and renamed so much stuff in the tool. The reason is ultimately to help all of us get insights slightly faster. One of the most glaring changes is the renaming of all of the sections to ABC – Acquisition, Behavior, Conversion.

The changes to the application present two important perspective shifts that Google is trying to encourage us, as marketers (many of whom do not have a strong data analysis background) to think differently about some of the data that we stare at most frequently.

First, there is a logical progression in this framework. Acquisition answers the question of, where did my audiences come from? Behavior answers the question of, what did my audience find engaging? Conversion answers the question of, did I generate meaningful results?

Measuring each section tells you where your website is most deficient. Are you not attracting enough new audiences? You probably need to consider some new tactics if that’s the case, like public relations or advertising. Are you losing the audiences as quickly as you gain them? If so, you have a behavior problem, an engagement problem, and the Behavior section will tell you what to tune up. Are you converting? Conversions will tell you what contributed to those conversions and what you should do less or more of.

One other aspect of these changes to Google Analytics is a little more subtle but even more important. Google Analytics is trending away from what to who. The new segments manager is all about the who, the people who are visiting your website.

The ABC funnel is about who. All of the new interactive flow charts tells you about the people and not the individual hits, clicks, or pages on your site. This is an important focus change, because marketers have typically been fixated on very short term metrics. By changing metrics focus, Google is subtly encouraging us to change our marketing focus.

This is reflected as well in their ever-changing perspective on SEO. If you focus on the who, if you focus on the personas and segments in your audience rather than the granular “what” details of keywords, page titles, and individual links, then you’ll do better in their current algorithms which reward expertise on topics, social popularity, and authority. While you will face a longer, tougher battle to get going, to gain search momentum, once you have it, it should in theory be harder to lose.

Practice your ABCs as Google Analytics defines them, and you’ll start to work on the marketing metrics that matter.

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One of my favorite expressions is “too good to share”. This is the tidbit, the tip, the tool, the tactic that is so valuable, you want to keep it all to yourself. Some stuff is too good to share because it contains proprietary information. Other stuff is too good to share because the value it provides would give a legitimate competitive edge to anyone who had it, an edge that your business could use to leap ahead.

Too good to share lives in a few places. For some people, it lives in secret, closed groups, from inside a company to private online groups. For example, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of closed forums, Facebook groups, LinkedIn groups, etc. where too good to share lives. These private clubs have members who are generally non-competitive and share what’s working for each of them.

How do you get into the clubs, the secret places, the back rooms if you’re not inside someone’s inner circle? You have to find your way in. One of the best places to do this is the in-person conference or event, and specifically in the “hallway conversations”. Forget about the stuff you’re seeing on stage. At nearly every marketing event I’ve been at, the stuff being shared on stage is what worked a year ago or two years ago. If it’s in a case study, then it’s been done and isn’t what’s cutting edge.

The place to be is the hallway, the bar, the social mixer, the private dinner. That’s where too good to share lives. Your goal isn’t to just get the random tidbit of information in these places, in these gatherings. Your goal is to get into the club, to make friends and acquaintances that will share with you. The table minimum, the ante to get in the game, is to have your own secrets, your own too good to share stuff, and be willing to share it.

Where do you go for the things that are too good to share?

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Remember way back when Facebook first announced that it was rolling out its custom email addresses? A lot of marketers, myself included, thought it was a clever play and that it would affect email marketing adversely. Tonight, when I logged into Facebook, I saw the following notice:

Looks like that didn’t pan out so well. Of course, this creates an interesting unintended consequence. Every @facebook.com address is now effectively a mail relay for the primary email account, so if you can’t find someone’s personal email address, you can just send it to their Facebook address and it’ll get relayed. To avert this harm, I’d strongly encourage you to give Facebook its own email address, like a Gmail account that you plan to never check, so that unscrupulous marketers don’t take advantage of what is now the world’s largest open mail relay. (Dear Facebook: you may want to sunset those Facebook.com email addresses at some point soon-ish)

Speaking of Gmail…

That’s right… Gmail wants to make it easier for readers to unsubscribe. I’ve been a promoter of this philosophy for years, which is why the unsubscribe buttons are always giant graphics in my newsletters. It’s nice to see Google following suit. That said, this is going to make a lot of email marketers even more unhappy, because Gmail’s deliverability was already a guessing game.

Get ready by committing not to send another crappy, pointless, useless email to your customers. Be willing and eager to invest the time to make your newsletter not just good, but great enough that people look forward to it. Remember the 3L test, and apply it rigorously to your next email piece.

Exciting times in the world of email marketing.

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Recently, I was asked, “what’s an acceptable churn rate for X”, where X can be your email list, your social media following, your customer base, etc. The simple answer is straightforward: anything over zero is preferable to anything negative. At the most basic understanding of churn, you always want to be growing rather than contracting.

That said, the more complex answer is that it’s dependent on the seasonality or cyclicality of your business. For example, once upon a time, I used to market student loans. Obviously, there’s a relatively narrow demographic of people who need student loans. Thus, every June, we’d see a significant portion (20-25%) of our email list unsubscribe – they were done with college and no longer wanted or needed information about student loans. Our mailing list no longer served them (in their eyes).

Conversely, every summer around July or August, we’d see a massive influx of new subscribers as students entering college got their first tuition bills, wondered how they’d pay that obscene amount, and subscribe to every student loan resource they could find.

This massive churn rate came out as a wash, but it raised two important business questions – was there a way to keep any amount of the people we normally lost, and was there a way to capture more of the new customers. The answer to more new customers is of course media, marketing, and sales. The answer to keeping some of the losses was to diversify our product line so that we offered services relevant to people even after they left college.

Here’s a better question for you to think about. Look at your churn rate for any two properties and see how they compare. For example, does the number of returning visitors to your website look at all, percentage-wise, similar to the number of people who actively open your email newsletter? If the answer is yes, then there’s something you’re doing right to keep people coming back. If the answer is no, they look dissimilar, then one is serving your audience better than the other. Figure out what the difference is and try to strengthen the weak method.

You can use your existing media mix to help with this. Make sure that you’re cross-promoting effectively. For example, if you’ve got a robust, growing email list and other channels that are important to you are not growing, make sure to give them some added prominence in your email marketing. If you’ve got a strong Twitter account, but your email list isn’t growing, then tweet more about your list. Leverage the full power of your marketing mix!

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Here’s a fun and enjoyable TED talk with Apollo Robbins on the control of attention. Pay very, very careful attention.

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