Author: Christopher S Penn

  • Basic podcasting analytics

    I was recently asked on Twitter about what podcasting analytics you should pay attention to. Let’s look at a handful to see what’s important.

    First, podcasting is a medium, just as social media is a medium, just as television is a medium, just as radio is a medium. That means that it fulfills the function of attracting and retaining new audiences for you and your business (if you’re podcasting for business purposes and not just as a fun hobby). Fundamentally, we want to understand the answers to three questions about the audience:

    1. Who is in the audience?

    What does the audience look like? How many personas are in it? How large is the audience? One of the most effective ways to get this data (besides flat out asking them) is to use something like LinkedIn Groups or a Facebook Page, as that will give you basic demographic and professional data. That’s one of the reasons Marketing Over Coffee maintains an active LinkedIn Group.

    2. How engaged is the audience?

    If no one’s listening, why bother? Services like Libsyn can give you download data, which is helpful. Services like Stitcher and YouTube can give you insight into how far people listen or watch.

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    If you’re a sponsored show, as Marketing Over Coffee is, then we know based on this information that we need to deliver the paid ad in the first 25% of the show, when attention is highest.

    3. How valuable is the audience?

    This is the ultimate question. What does the audience do for you in exchange for the value you provide them? You won’t find this in your podcasting analytics. You’ll find this in your web analytics or your marketing automation system/CRM. How many people signed up for the mailing list? How many people filled out a lead form? How many people bought the book? How valuable is that audience in doing the things that matter to you?

    Measure your podcasting efforts along these three categories of metrics if you want to understand what the value of your podcast is. Oh, and subscribe to my podcast that I do with John Wall every week, Marketing Over Coffee.


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  • What Guild Wars 2 Teaches Us About Rewarding Behavior

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    At the behest of friend and fellow gamer someone, I’m trying out Guild Wars 2 (GW2), a game very similar to World of Warcraft. It’s got all the stock, standard tropes of an MMORPG (massively multiplayer online role playing game) with a couple of interesting twists. Unlike traditional MMOs that have defined roles such as tanks, healers, and damage dealers, everyone in GW2 can perform limited aspects of all three roles. Second, and relevant to the topic of this blog post, the game has been engineered to make you more social, rather than less.

    For example, in every other MMO, there are resource nodes that your character can harvest, such as ores, herbs, fish, etc. These nodes are typically one-time use, which means that whichever player gets to them first gets to enjoy the harvest, and if you’re second in line, you get nothing except frustration. The nodes in GW2 are duration-based: every player who gets to the node within the time that it’s available gets some goods. That radically changes how you perceive other players. They’re no longer competitors for goods. That in turn changes how we perceive those other players, not as enemies, but as either neutral or even helpful presences. When your goal as a multiplayer game is to increase social cohesion (people stay with games, social networks, etc. when their friends do), not penalizing people for being in the same vicinity as others is a crucial step.

    Another interesting feature is that every player has the ability to resurrect another fallen player, regardless of class or skill. You just click and wait for the other player to get on their feet, usually a 5-10 second wait with no cost or materials required. Players who do so are rewarded with a small amount of experience. As a result, it’s not uncommon to see players healing and helping each other out, even if they don’t know each other. It’s a sort of common courtesy in GW2, a social norm, and again, creates opportunities to have more interesting social interactions than in games where players can’t help each other on their feet.

    What’s important about GW2 compared to others in its genre isn’t its features. What’s important to us as marketers is that the developers have clearly put a lot of thought into rewarding the behaviors they want to encourage. One of their stated priorities is eliminating game mechanics that make us perceive other players as enemies and competitors rather than comrades and friends. The game does this marvelously, and it makes for a much more cooperative environment. This in turn makes in-game chat more pleasant and makes players behave more socially normal (closer to the real world) than other games I’ve experienced, because the game simply doesn’t have as many ways you can behave badly to others in it.

    Think carefully about the incentives you design and the behaviors they reward. For example, in sales, if individual commissions are the top priority, it’s not uncommon to see salespeople undermining each other, claiming leads that don’t belong to them, wrecking sales of coworkers for their own benefit. If group or team commissions are the top priority, it’s not uncommon to see salespeople helping each other out, contributing to each other, and working towards the best outcome that benefits them: the team’s success. Think about how you design the incentives in your marketing plan and in your business to get at the behaviors you want to encourage. It works in gaming, and it works in real life.


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  • Marketing isn’t a single dish

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    What makes a successful restaurant? Is it a single dish, a single signature food? Not if you want to stay in business, it’s not. There are countless reviews on sites like Yelp that effectively say, “This dish is good but the rest of the menu is inedible”. Five star reviews are not made of single dishes of excellence on a table full of failure. What makes a successful restaurant is a reputation for consistently serving reasonably good food, with reasonably good service, at reasonably good prices. Above all else, a successful restaurant has to do what it does consistently in order to be known for its offering. A great dish served once followed by endless tablefuls of mediocrity has never kept the doors open.

    Marketing needs to take a lesson from this. Right now, marketing is stuck in a campaign-centric view of the world. All of our focus is at the campaign level: an email blast, a social blitz, a television ad. These are single serving dishes, and while a brilliant campaign can give your numbers a brief boost, it’s not enough. As marketing evolves to be centered around people, your efforts as a marketer must transcend a campaign view of the world if you want longer term success. A single great email blast can’t make up ground for terrible SEO, inept social media strategy, and no clear brand message. A single TV ad can’t fix a broken sales process or a marketing funnel that’s leaking at every stage.

    The successful marketer today and in the near future will leave behind the singular focus on campaigns and re-center on the person we’re trying to impact. Are campaigns still important? Yes, in the way that every single dish you prepare at a restaurant is important (and one really bad one can damage your overall reputation) – but it’s that dish’s role in the larger view of the restaurant’s reputation that matters most. Marketing campaigns are still important as the tactical activities that make up your marketing strategy, but it’s the overall effect of your marketing on your target audience that matters most. Serve up great marketing consistently over a period of time and you’ll not only create short-term benefits, you’ll reap long-term loyal fans.


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  • How to sell from LinkedIn network emails

    If you have any role in sales or marketing, chances are you’re always on the lookout for new opportunities to develop customers. One of the easiest ways to do so is to look for transitions, when roles change out. When someone takes a new job or leaves a job, there’s an impact on an organization. If your company provides services that fit those roles, then there’s an opportunity for you to help out.

    For example, if a CMO starts at a new company, there’s almost immediately a vendor review. That’s a time to knock politely on the door and ask to be helpful if you’re not one of the vendors of record, and a vital time to knock politely if you are the vendor of record who needs to defend the account. Conversely, when someone leaves, there may be an opportunity to provide additional levels of service or new service if the role is difficult to replace. If you’re at all good at the services you provide, you know your clients and what they need while they’re going through transitions.

    How would you find out about this sort of thing, if you wanted to capitalize on the opportunities? Simple: read the emails you get from LinkedIn. If you aren’t getting any right now, you can change that here:

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    See the one called Network Updates? That’s the one you want to get. Here’s why:

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    You get all of the changes in positions in your network delivered to you on a silver platter (not literally). From there, it’s up to you how you choose to interact with people in your network experiencing changes, but I’d venture to say it’s a good chance to at least say hello, if not politely inquire about new business opportunities when and where appropriate. Very few other social networks will hand you business opportunities daily. Make the most of the ones that do!


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  • Remember

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    “It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past.” – J. Michael Straczynski

  • When pricing is public, when pricing shouldn’t be public

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    Ellen Butler asked:

    “Do you post your project, hourly, or starting rates on your website?”

    The answer depends on what pricing model you’re using. If what you’re selling is a commodity, then pricing can be public. Most people who are in service-based businesses are selling hours of their time, which they treat as a commodity, just like apples, iron, gold, Apple’s stock, rice, and corn. That pricing model also makes it easy for buyers to do apples-to-apples comparisons. John Doe’s pricing is 50 an hour, while Jane Doe’s pricing is40 an hour. If all you care about as a buyer is price, then the decision should be easy.

    If what you’re selling is not a commodity, then pricing can’t be public because there is no standardized pricing. What’s the price of surgery? Well, it depends on what you need to have done, which doctor you’re going to have do the work, what hospital you’re going to have the work done at, how urgent the need is, who your healthcare insurance provider is… you get the idea. Surgery isn’t a commodity (yet).

    What determines whether or not you are selling a commodity is customization. If what you do offers no significant benefits over what anyone else does – or if your buyers and customers don’t understand the difference between what you do and what others do – then you’re selling a commodity and you’re forced into a price war. If what you do is so unique and so customized that you’re a market of one, then you can price to what the market will bear. There’s a reason that Apple, when it releases a new product line, can price whatever the heck it wants – usually there are few to no competitors. Think back to when the first iPad came out. There was nothing else like it. Or the iPhone. Or the iPod. They were unique enough that they were their own markets for quite a while. Now, unless they continue to innovate, their spaces have become commoditized.

    If you want more details on pricing, I recommend this older post on setting consulting billing rates for some additional ideas.


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  • How to never run out of content: teach the news

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    If you’re struggling with a content marketing strategy, if you’re struggling to put together something that your brand can be known for, the simplest, most effective fallback is to teach the news.

    Yesterday, I was doing some work on a financial aid company’s account. Few things are as bewildering or poorly explained as the process of paying for college. The converse of this quandary is that the opportunity to explain it, any part of it, is a limitless well you can draw from if you teach people how the system works, especially as news occurs.

    For example, in the financial aid world, the Department of Education publishes an enormous amount of information and news every day that you can draw from and teach. Four days ago as of this writing, they published this announcement:

    In Dear Colleague Letter GEN-12-01, posted on January 18, 2012, we provided information on the provisions of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Public Law 112-74) that impacted the federal student aid programs authorized under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965, as amended (HEA). One of those provisions limited, effective with the 2012-2013 award year, the duration of a student’s eligibility to receive a Federal Pell Grant to 12 semesters (or its equivalent) [see HEA section 401(c)(5)]

    That little tidbit of legislative news has an enormous impact on millions of students and can provide several days’ worth of content, commentary, and more. What does it mean? Congress restricted the amount of time you can use a Pell Grant to 12 semesters (on the premise that if you can’t graduate from college as a full time student in 6 years, something is wrong). What are the implications? How does this impact part-time students? If you read into the details of the announcement, there are so many operational portions and examples that you could turn this one announcement into a week-long series all by itself.

    This is why it’s impossible to run out of content on nearly any topic that you’re expert in. Read the news, figure out what it means, and teach to it. It’s an advanced form of newsjacking – instead of just being witty or clever (and often failing at it), try teaching the news and what the impact will be on your customers and prospects. They’ll thank you for your expert interpretation and increase your credibility in their eyes.


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  • Beware of checkbox marketing!

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    Does this sound familiar?

    When you’re looking to buy a product or service, especially as a business, there’s a list of must-have features. A/B split testing. Dolby Surround Sound. Retargeting. If a product or service doesn’t have the features that you or your executives read as “must-have”, you give it a pass.

    Does this sound familiar?

    When you’re in product development, you have a laundry list of features that the best in class competitor has, and you’re comparing it to your own. At every turn, things that actually need to get done get bumped in favor of things that the sales guys and gals say they must have, or else they won’t be able to sell the product at all and the company will go out of business. (sometimes in those exact words)

    These are the two edges of the checkbox marketing sword – marketing to either meet or find a laundry list of features for products and services. They’re both dangerous to your marketing, both dangerous to your company, and incredibly damaging to your bottom line. Why? A good portion of the time, checkbox marketing is simply a waste of time and money, for both the buyer and seller.

    For buyers, do you need the features? Do you even know what they do? For example, much is made in the mobile space of NFC. NFC is touted by some vendors as being the next big thing in the mobile marketplace and any smartphone that doesn’t offer NFC features is clearly behind the times, according to those vendors. Question: without Googling it, do you know what NFC is and how it would benefit you on a day to day basis, or is it just another checkbox that a vendor is saying you need?

    For sellers, do you need to provide the features, or can you save limited resources to develop something worthwhile? Once upon a time, I used to help sell email marketing services. One of the mandatory checkbox items was A/B split testing. Every vendor, every service provider needed to provide this checkbox feature or else you were non-competitive. RFPs asked for it. People asked for it during demos. Yet when I looked in the usage logs of thousands of customers, fewer than 1% ever used the feature. It was a checkbox that did not benefit 99.2% of the customers who demanded it and paid for it, yet received no benefit from it.

    Checkbox marketing gets even more insidious when executives make decisions to flat-out lie in order to hit those checkboxes, to misrepresent features in order to say, yes, we have that, but in fact the feature doesn’t exist. Eventually, you get badly burned on it, but it’s amazing the number of companies that do this.

    Is there an antidote? Absolutely: buyer education, on the parts of both buyer and seller. If you’ve got a checklist of features that you believe are mandatory, you’d better be able to map each feature to a business process or personal process that has meaning and impact in your life. If you can’t name how a feature is going to be useful to you immediately, then chances are it’s not going to be. Cross it off your list of must-haves.

    If you’re selling a product, take the time to educate your customers and prospective customers about what features do and how they are used. As an example, food companies include free recipes on nearly every ingredient-like product they sell. Pick up a bag of chocolate chips or flour or cake mix and see how many recipes they cram onto the packaging. Help your customers understand not just what features come in the box, but why those features might matter to them. Help them to be better at their jobs, and you’ll help insulate them from checkbox marketing that could sway their loyalties temporarily (but long enough to affect your bottom line).


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  • Changing your mind in a suit

    Ever notice that business is getting more and more casual? I certainly have. Dress codes have been relaxed almost to the point of “please just wear clothing”. That’s okay – the more latitude you give people, the more ability you give them to differentiate themselves. That’s one of the main reasons I love to wear a very formal business suit on things like customer visits and on stage, complete with the seemingly unnecessary necktie. It’s a differentiator as more people get more casual.

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    There’s an even more esoteric reason for doing so beyond surface appearances. I wear a suit not to change other people’s minds, but to change my own mind. What we’re wearing is a subtle subconscious cue to ourselves about what it is we’re supposed to be doing. Ever put on your favorite workout clothes just around the house and find yourself humming a tune from your favorite workout mix? I certainly have. That clothing brought up a series of memories and associations in my mind. When I tie on the black cloth sash that’s part of my martial arts uniform, it puts me in a very different frame of mind and makes me feel more in the moment.

    Likewise, when I wear a business suit, it sends a subtle mental reminder that I’m changing personas, that I’m to be even more mindful of what I say, how I say it, and what my thoughts, words, and actions should be working to achieve. Wearing a suit creates that mindset, almost a different personality. I associate that feeling with the goals I’m trying to achieve.

    You can, of course, accomplish any of these mindsets without the use of a suit or any clothing outfit. We learn all the time to associate different objects and items in our lives with different mindsets. You might have a “good luck charm” that you carry or wear on business appointments, or a certain routine that you prefer to do. Wearing full business dress is just a convenient way to constantly reinforce that reminder because we are literally wrapped in it.


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  • What Warcraft teaches us about selling convenience

    One of the easiest paths to profit in World of Warcraft is to have a mage visit the various cities in the game and pick up stock items from various vendors and resell them at obscenely high prices.

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    For example, here’s my mage visiting the engineering company in the game to buy some blueprints from him for 2 gold coins. She’ll resell these plans on the in-game market, the auction house, for anywhere between 20 and 437 gold, depending on how lazy the customer is feeling, and someone will buy them without fail in the next 48 hours.

    Why wouldn’t the customer simply go to the engineering shop and buy it themselves? After all, there’s a big price difference in any currency between 2 and 437. Sometimes it’s lack of knowledge – the customer isn’t aware of the item being for sale from a vendor for relatively cheap. Most of the time it’s convenience – it’s quicker and easier to just buy it at vastly inflated prices off of the market than it is to trek all the way out to a distant city and buy it for yourself, even at a considerable cost savings. The customer is trading the cost savings for a time and travel savings.

    This is the mundane lesson we often forget as marketers. Unquestionably, if you can be the finest quality with the best service at the lowest price, by all means do so and dominate the market. However, if you’ve got something that is effectively a commodity, finding a way to make it more convenient or easier can justify a higher price tag because people will pay to recover time and ease.

    What product or service do you have that people would pay you more for if it were more convenient?


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