Author: Christopher S Penn

In today’s episode, Amy asks why open source AI models like LLaMa 2 matter. I explain how they allow independence from big tech platforms, custom tuning, and control over data privacy. Open source lets you run models on your own terms rather than relying on third parties. Tune in for a breakdown of the benefits open source provides businesses adopting AI.

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In today’s episode, Amy asks, Can you explain in layman’s terms why open source models like llama to matter so much? Can you break it down so we can understand what it’s what’s important about? Okay, so the llama to model which was released by meta, still want to say Facebook, but it’s better is an open source model in that they have given away the model itself and the model weights.

What that means is that anyone who agrees to the license can take this language model and run it on their own hardware or software.

And if you have some fewer than 700 million users per month, you don’t have to pay Facebook meta, you don’t pay meta a dime, it’s free to use.

Now, when you look at existing models, like the models that power chat GPT or the models that power Google Bard, we have access to the interface, right, we can log on to chat GPT and we can start typing, and we’ll get some results for free.

And if you want more better stuff, you pay the 20 bucks a month for the the pro account.

But you don’t get the model itself, right, you get an interface to it.

That means that you are perpetually using someone else’s model on their terms in their system in their services.

And at any point in time, they can turn off the switch, and you no longer have access to it.

As we’ve seen many, many times with chat GPT when their demand is very, very high, those sorry, we’re having performance issues.

So the service is not running right now.

You can’t do anything about it.

You’re like, Okay, well, I guess I’ll just get a sandwich because I’m okay.

That’s a model owned by someone else.

An open source model.

And it’s there’s some there’s some debate about whether you can truly call it open source because a meta has not released the training data used to make the model, they only released the fully baked product itself.

However, there’s a whole very arcane system of decompiling and retuning models we’re not going to get into effectively though.

functionally, it is very much like an open source product, you can take this thing, you can modify it, you can run it, you can do all sorts of stuff with it.

And you don’t have to pay meta for it until you reach that 700 million a month user mark.

Why is this a big deal? Because if you want to integrate generative AI, large language models into your product into your product or service.

If you use a big provider like open AI or Microsoft Azure or Google, you have to pay for it.

Right? Every time someone uses a chat bot in your in your app, you have to pay a small amount of money to open AI or to Microsoft or to Google.

And that adds up real fast, right? It’s it’s fine in testing.

Oh, it’s three tenths of a cent to run this query.

Okay, great.

What happens when it’s 100 million users a day? Asking those questions, what happens when it’s, you know, people asking 80 questions at a time, those bills add up real fast.

Also, at any point, you know, Microsoft or Google or open AI can say, Well, you know, I really don’t like how you’re using my software.

So I’ve cut off your account, which is really problematic when you think about it, because it means that access to this technology is heavily controlled by large technology companies.

When you have an open source model, you download this onto your laptop onto your servers onto your compute infrastructure and you run it with open source infrastructure like cobalt or llama dot cpp or any of the the many, many, many, many engines that can run a large language model, they’re all open source and free.

At that point, no one can control you anymore.

No one can say, Hey, you can’t use the model for that because it’s on the privacy of your own laptop and never there’s no data going across the internet.

If you want to have a conversation with llama instruct, which is the chat version of it entirely about like clowns covering themselves in ketchup, you can you can have that conversation.

That’s completely private is completely up to you how you interact with the model.

From a business perspective.

Again, as long as you’re under that 700 million user a month requirement, that means that instead of paying hundreds or 1000s or 10s of 1000s of dollars to open AI, because you’ve integrated their software into your product, you run this model instead, and you pay the cost of your computer infrastructure running it instead.

So if you’ve already got a room full of servers, it’s not a huge stretch to add more and run the model yourself, then it’s yours.

If chat GPT is down that day, you don’t care, because your servers and your infrastructure are running your version of the model.

And no one can take that away from you.

No one can censor you.

No one can tell you can’t do this or that.

I mean, they can tell you they can’t enforce it.

And so that’s a it’s it’s about independence.

It’s about freedom of choice.

It is about control over the AI experience.

You can also take these models and tune them you can you can modify them.

If you have if you download the llama two base model, you can retune it and say, Okay, I want you to be specifically expert in accounting, you’re going to know general ledgers, double entry bookkeeping, generally accounted, accepted accounting procedures, you’ll know, tax structure, you’ll know all this stuff.

And you’ll reweight the model, you will influence it, you’ll modify what it can and can’t do, it will get worse at some things, right? It will, as you the more you tune a model towards a specific task, the less can do other tasks.

So it will stop being able to tell jokes as well.

But boy, will it answer any question you have about any accounting scenario, or any marketing scenario or any HR scenario, you name it, you can retune these models.

And so these are the reasons why, at least from my point of view, these open source models are really, really important.

They allow you to, to build your own infrastructure.

They allow you to tune a model to very specific circumstances.

And they give you more control, give you more control.

If your company deals with personally identifying information, sensitive, protected information or protected health information, you absolutely should not be using a third party model for those you should, under no circumstance be handing that to open AI or Google or whatever.

When you download and run the llama model, for example, from meta, yes, Facebook made it.

But it’s not on their servers.

It’s on your laptop and no data is being transmitted to meta.

It’s all being run locally, which means that you have control over the data that you’re giving to a model, what it does with it and where that output goes.

And for ensuring privacy and data safety.

That is the only choice that you can use in large language models and still comply with all the laws that you’re required to.

So that’s why it’s a big deal.

It will, it’s getting to be a bigger and bigger deal every day.

And it’s something that people need to be aware of, and to have in their mix of their generative AI solutions.

So great question.

Thanks for asking.

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In today’s episode, Anne asks how I see the power of large language models having the most utility. I explain what agent networks are and how they allow multiple AI models to work together. This coordination unlocks capabilities beyond any single model, like integrating search engines and workflows. Tune in for examples of agent networks in action and how they will transform productivity.

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in today’s episode and asks when you mentioned large language models are more powerful than people imagine, in which ways do you see that power having most utility? And what excites you about that? Okay.

This is in relation to actually a whole conversation that we had on threads, because I’ve left behind the dumpster fire that is the network formerly known as Twitter.

And this was a discussion about large language models and in specific agent networks.

So if you’re not familiar, an agent network in in AI language is when you have multiple language models working together.

So if you think about chat GPT, for example, that is a single instance of a language model, you are talking to one instance of it, you ask a question, it gives you answers, it tells you jokes, it writes limericks, etc.

You’re used to that, you know how to use that.

And you know how to ask follow on questions.

If you say write a limerick, and you’re like, Okay, well, that wasn’t funny.

So let’s let’s revise it.

There are systems, technologies out there that allow you to glue together language models along with other systems, probably the most well known one is a system called Lang chain, which is a scripted environment where you tie together multiple language models.

So real practical example, you have one language model that is maybe writing a trashy romance novel.

And you have a second model that reads the output of the first model and edits it says, well, that doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense or that’s misspelled or that doesn’t you know that there’s no coherence.

And you have a third model that inspects the overall output saying, Look, there’s a there’s no narrative arc here, right? Yeah.

You know, and and Suzy, me in Act one and the Suzy are dating in act two and Suzy are riding hot air balloons.

It’s like, look, there’s the so that third model’s job is to inspect the overall arc and say, okay, model one, go back and try again, you know, girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl.

Hot air balloons, huh? It should be girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl girl breaks up with girl, girl gets back together with girl and so on and so forth.

And so that’s an example of an agent network, you’d have multiple models controlled by the software called Lang chain, that would be interacting with the outputs in ways that one model can’t do on its own right in the same way that a software developer really should not be qAing their own code.

A language model really should probably not be trying to edit as it writes, just like you know, if you read my friend and Hanley’s book, everybody writes, including AI writing and editing are different tasks, you should not be editing while you’re writing.

And so you would either do that separately, or you hire an editor to edit your writing.

That’s what an agent network is.

It is multiple instances of language models doing different tasks in coordination with each other.

And these are really, really, really powerful because they can also talk to other pieces of software.

So Lang chain, for example, can talk to something like a selenium web driver, which is a fancy piece of technology that just browsers the web, it’s just a web browser that a computer uses instead of your eyes.

So it doesn’t need the all back button and all this stuff.

It just is a text based web browser.

Systems like chat GPT, or Claude, or whatever, they can’t browse the web.

chat GPT used to be able to but it turns out that people were misusing it.

So they can’t do that anymore.

Selenium, selenium web driver can, but it needs to be told what to do.

So now in an agent network, you have a language model doing some generation that Lang chain can take that output, pass it to a selenium instance and say browse the web and bring back the text from that web.

And then hand either hand it back to the original language model or pass to another language model and say, hey, interpret this and do something with it.

You can see this at work in Microsoft Bing.

If you use Microsoft Bing with its with its chat GPT integration, when you ask a question of Bing chat, watch what happens it will, it will take your question out of natural language.

And the GPT form model will rewrite that question as a Bing query and that will pass that to Bing search engine, pull the results back from the search engine, pass it back to the GPT model to say rewrite this into, you know, coherent narrative text, and boom, there’s your answer.

It’s not asking the GPT model for the answer.

It’s asking the Bing search engine.

So Microsoft has sort of glued together different components to make this this ecosystem.

It’s the smart way to do large scale implementations of AI.

So that’s the power of these systems.

The models themselves are very powerful, but they’re really good at language.

They’re not really good at other things.

They’re not really good at search.

They’re not really they’re definitely not good at math.

And they can they can lose their memory over time because of all sorts of technical limitations.

But they’re really good at language.

So if you take something that’s really good at language and glue it to a database, or you glue it to a web browser, or you glue it to a chat client, or you glue it to a spreadsheet, you are now creating networks of systems that can interact with each other and develop capabilities that are beyond what any one component itself can do.

Again, this is where Google duet and Microsoft Co pilot are going to really really unlock the power of these these language models because in Microsoft Co pilot, you’ll be able to be in a Word document and say, turn this into a PowerPoint presentation.

The language model is not going to do that.

The language model is going to take your input and the document and use and it’s going to write code because code is a language.

It’s going to write code to pass to like Visual Basic Script or Python or whatever the backend languages that Microsoft uses that will then create the output.

And so that’s how these tools get around their limitations of you know, the tasks that are not language like making PowerPoints.

Writing code is a language and therefore, a language model can control PowerPoint or Excel or Word.

So that’s where I see these tools having enormous utility in agent networks, as part of an overall computational environment that brings in all these heterogeneous systems, and the unifies them with language the same way we do.

Right? That’s the secret.

That is the secret.

We do this already as humans, we use language, we have keyboards and mice and they type and where we talk, and we click on things on the screen.

We are interacting with our software that exists today through language.

So getting a machine to use the same style of communication is not really a stretch.

And therefore, that’s what’s going to unlock productivity.

And that’s really exciting, right? If you would get good at, at prompt engineering, or just prompting, let’s just call it prompting.

And you understand how specific you need to be to get good outcomes.

As language models find themselves into every single piece of software, and as agent networks spring up, you will be able to do more than any other, you know, colleague who’s not using AI, you’ll be dramatically more productive.

I think Boston Consulting Group just did a study saying that people who use AI within their job were 40% more productive.

Now keep in mind, companies are delighted to see that.

And they’re excited, like out of their minds, they get a 2% increase in productivity in employees.

So when you see 40% increase in productivity, that’s like, your head just explode, you know, money starts raining from the sky.

That’s, that’s what’s exciting about this stuff.

If you get on board and you get proficient at it today, you are paving a path for yourself to be the conductor of the orchestra, right, the leader of the world.

And bags of money to join existing companies that want to retain their leadership in the face of a highly disruptive trend.

So really good question.

It’s there’s a lot we can explore on it, but it’s a that’s a good start.

So thanks for asking.

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In today’s episode, Paul asks how prepared organizations are for generative AI and its impact. I explain why most companies are still early in adoption and not ready for the transformation ahead. There’s an urgency to understand AI’s effects, but many lack the baseline knowledge needed. Tune in to hear my full thoughts on where companies stand and how leaders can get up to speed.

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In today’s episode, Paul asks, Paul sent over really, really long thing.

Paul is Paul Retser from Marketing AI Conference, the Marketing AI Institute.

I said, one, the vast majority of organizations are just getting started with AI.

Even those that have been using it for a while, we’re not prepared for generative AI and the transformative impact it’s having on any industry, every industry.

To most organizations are still thinking about AI solely as a technology challenge, not addressing the significant near term comprehensive change management through the organization.

organization three, there’s a lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, why leadership and many of these organizations lack even a baseline understanding of what it is, and the effects it’s going to have.

What are your thoughts? Wow, there is a lot to unpack there.

So let’s tackle this piece by piece because yeah, there’s a lot to talk about.

Number one, the vast majority of companies are just getting started with AI with generative AI 100% true.

Most companies don’t have a generative AI strategy.

If they even have an AI strategy at all.

And specifically, there’s a lack of process and governance around the use of generative AI within organizations, even something as simple as hey, are you even allowed to use this thing? So take something like chat GPT, that is owned and operated by a third party company called open AI.

Open AI is not your company.

If you copy and paste corporate data that is owned by your company into somebody else’s system, you are effectively giving them that information is being recorded as being logged, and it may be used to train models, or who knows what else you don’t know.

So companies absolutely need to have some kind of standards about what tools you are and are not allowed to use.

And that’s really important.

And it’s not happening.

Secondly, the transformative effect that Paul is referencing about generative AI is the effect of lay people, non technical people, people who do not code people who do not play with servers.

And their ability to use AI tools, right? That’s the transformation, suddenly, everyone can you can open up chat GPT.

And you can have a conversation with it as if you were talking to another person.

Very often we talk about how it’s, it’s, it’s like an intern, a very, very smart intern that you have on your staff now that can do lots and lots of things, but you need to be very specific about your instructions.

Most people are not ready to have an intern, right? Most people aren’t sure how to manage an intern.

And so this transformation is a big deal.

It’s a big deal that people aren’t ready for.

So that’s part one.

And I completely agree, most companies are not prepared.

They’re still not prepared.

And they’re not thinking about what this is going to do to their companies.

If you check out this past week’s newsletter on the death of the hourly business, this there’s a lot of companies that are going to be adversely affected if they’re don’t get on board and figure out how to do value based billing, and then how to implement AI point to people thinking of AI as a technology challenge.

100% agree with this.

So at trust insights, we have a five part framework, purpose, people process platform performance purpose, what are you doing? And why people who’s involved process? What are the things that are involved that anyone process wise in your organization, platform is the technology and performance is the outcome.

Did you did you get done what you needed to get done? People don’t think of AI as encompassing all of those, but you’ve got to, you’ve got to think about AI as it is a technology.

But it is a technology that a lot of people can use in a lot of different ways.

Throughout your organization, it’s not just a marketing tool, it’s not just a finance tool, it’s an everything tool in the same way that a spreadsheet is an everything tool, right? Every department in your organization can use a spreadsheet and most of them probably do.

AI is the same thing.

And no one’s thinking about how does this impact the organization as a whole? Change management is hard.

Change management is hard because it involves that really, really complex system known as people, human beings.

And when you have a transformative technology like AI that can just eat up tasks and radically change how you do business, you need to have a change management platform in place a change management system, a change management strategy to deal with everything that’s going to happen.

And many of the the effects of AI still are not completely clear.

This is another really important part.

We are in the early innings of the AI game, if you will, we are seeing the technology evolve very, very, very fast, and in ways that we did not anticipate.

And so people need to be very clear about what’s happening and be prepared to have lots of scenario planning.

And who’s doing scenario planning about AI? Almost no one.

Almost no one is doing any kind of scenario planning.

And that’s really bad.

Because when surprising things happen, you’re totally unprepared.

So number two on on Paul’s questions.

Agree, most people are not prepared.

Number three, the lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, because people don’t understand what it is.

Yes, I agree with that.

I don’t know that is not just a baseline understanding that it varies based on the organization, the people we talked to, there are some people who think it, like, you know, the smartphone or the internet is a fad.

And in fairness to those people, they have been plenty of technology based fads that have come and gone, right? blockchain and Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, we’re really hot for like a hot minute there.

And then not so much.

Things like clubhouse, the audio app was was like red hot for nine minutes, and then it vanished.

And so folks who are in who are not in the AI space are probably looking at generative AI going, is this just another clubhouse? Are we going to be still be talking about this in three months? Or will we have moved on to something else? This is a transformative technology that changes how you work.

And it changes how everyone works.

And that’s what is going to make it much more durable than say, a cryptocurrency, a cryptocurrency, as an example, really difficult to use, right, you have to buy into it, you have to figure out the technology to buy into it, then you have to figure out what ecosystems even accepted as a form of currency.

chat GPT, there’s a very low, very, very, very, very low barrier to entry there, which is sign up for a free account, and then start chatting.

And the capabilities of large language models are such that they can be applied to just about everything.

If it’s language based, it can be applied to it.

So education is part of it.

And so so is cynicism in the sense of tech trends that that come and go very quickly.

So I think on that last point, it’s a mixed bag based on who you’re talking to.

But there definitely is a need for more education.

There definitely is a need for more understanding of the technology, the implications, the risks, the opportunities.

If your company has not done an AI based SWOT analysis, you really should.

You really should what are your strengths with regard to gender of AI? What are your weaknesses? externally? What are your opportunities? What are your threats? Are there competitors that are ahead of you in adoption? Are there competitors that are reaping productivity gains that you can’t see yet, but you’re like, huh, that’s weird, they seem to be cornering the market in specific ways that we can’t get what’s going on over there.

And so having an understanding of the technology, and understanding the application of the technology, and then a sense of where your your competition is, is really important.

And one of the things I think that everyone in every role in corporations should be doing at a leadership level to CFO, the CMO, the CEO, the COO, everybody who is has a leadership role should be attending events and conferences and things, just regular industry events, and just be listening, listening going, huh, I sat down that lunch roundtable, and everyone else is talking about AI.

I wonder if we should be doing something I wonder if we’re behind, right? Or you sit down that table, nobody’s talking about AI, and you’re like, there’s a market opportunity here, no one else is paying attention to this thing.

Maybe we could get a sizable competitive advantage.

You don’t have to go to a conference, right? You can go on LinkedIn, and look at the profiles of your your peer competitors, and they’re their executive, their executives and say, Oh, look, you know, 20% of our competitors are talking about AI, and 80% they never mentioned it.

That will give you a sense of the urgency that you need to adopt it, the and implement it and get get on board.

Whether people want it or not, it is coming to every piece of software that there is.

And we’ll talk about this later on, but is coming.

And as a result, you need to have a strategy, a plan and a system of measurement to to make it work.

So Paul, really good questions, as always.

And this transformation is still in its early days.

At the speed at which the technology is picking up from newer models, open sourcing, agent networks.

It’s, it’s difficult to even look at the landscape now and try to see where it’s going, because it’s going so fast.

But if even if you froze the technology to where it is today, that would still be transformative to every company.

And the sooner people are on board with it, the sooner people are ready for it, the more benefit you will reap from it.

So really good questions.

Thanks for asking.

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