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    Holidays 2011

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  • Homogenization

    During a series of candidate interviews yesterday, I took notice of one particular facet of the resumes that got me thinking. Every candidate listed their academic standing – what degree, plus their GPA (grade point average). For those not familiar with the American university system, GPA is a numerical score between 0 and 4.0 that is supposed to indicate a student’s overall academic achievement, with 4.0 being perfect marks and 0.0 being something along the lines of setting fire to the dean’s car and using all your exam papers as toilet tissue.

    What got me thinking was just how deeply irrelevant that score is. GPA tells me overall how good you are at school, but it masks so many variables that it’s nearly useless. For example, let’s say I’m hiring for a marketing intern whose job it is to create content. Compare these two GPAs:

    Student A: 3.0
    Student B: 3.1

    Which student should I hire? Basic common sense says, hire the higher score. But what if you broke down the scores some?

    Student A:

    English: 4.0
    Mathematics: 2.0

    Student B:

    English: 2.2
    Mathematics: 4.0

    If I’m hiring someone as a content creator, Student B, despite the higher GPA, is clearly the worse choice, because content creation demands outstanding writing skills, but the homogenized GPA score masks that entirely.

    Did you know a cow can lick its own nostrils?

    Think carefully about homogenization of metrics! Are you masking critical details? One valid criticism of Klout scores, for example, is that they don’t tell you what the person is influential about. A Klout score of 60 is meaningless if I’m marketing B2B software and you’re influential about beer making.

    Even our most basic analytics should be called into question. Segment out your data! All web traffic is not the same. You may have an average number of visitors to your website, but perhaps visitors specifically from social media convert at a higher or lower percentage than the rest of your traffic. Find out which segments of your audience truly want what you have to offer and focus your attention and analysis on them. As I often say in my marketing metrics talk, if you’re selling Gulfstream airplanes, you really only need 3 people to read your blog a year… as long as two of them buy an airplane from you.

    Beware homogenization. It’s convenient to want to wrap everything up in one big number. Ask questions of scores and averaged measures to see what’s behind the averages. You might find some very profitable, highly un-average niches in there that could change your business overnight.


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  • What cake can teach you about metrics

    What if you read a cake recipe that went like this?

    1 inch of flour
    1/4 inch of milk
    1 inch of sugar
    1/2 inch of butter
    1/8 inch vanilla
    1/2 inch of eggs

    Mix all ingredients until they are 2 1/4 inches high. Put in an oven for 30 minutes and check with a ruler every 15 minutes to see if cake has reached a height of 2 1/2 inches. Remove from oven and serve.

    It's the birthday cake!

    What’s wrong here?

    Baking a cake can’t be done in inches. It’s simply the wrong metric to use. Are inches and rulers valuable? Absolutely. Are they the right metric for every situation? Of course not.

    Why is it, then, that we in marketing are all so insistent on one magical measure? We want just a Klout score or just an ROI, etc. The next time someone insists that they need a simplified, single dashboard metric of all your marketing performance, remind them that they are far more comfortable with 5-6 metrics (cups, teaspoons, inches, temperature, ounces, etc.) for a simple cake.

    Your business is more complex than a cake. Treat it like one and measure it with metrics that are appropriate for each of your performance indicators.


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  • How to make Pareto curve charts

    One of the more useful ways to graphically see the cumulative effects of something happening in your marketing data is the Pareto, or powerlaw chart. Creating these is easier than it sounds. I’ll assume you have access to spreadsheet software. For the purposes of this tutorial, I’ll use the free Google Docs web-based software.

    First, you need data that can be modeled by a Pareto curve. Any time you want to measure the cumulative impact of something over a fixed period of time, you have the opportunity to use a Pareto curve. For example, you can download data about a particular campaign in Google Analytics, download data about how many times an email campaign was opened, download data about how many times a tweet was clicked. These would all be good candidates for Pareto curves.

    Let’s take a look at a example tweet. Here’s the bit.ly basic clickthrough data for my tweet about the November 5 Leave Your Bank day.

    bitly statistics for Not another dime: a protest that works | Christopher S. Penn : Awaken Your Superhero

    Now let’s head to our sample spreadsheet. You can access it via this public URL.

    You’ll want to set up the date, clicks from Bit.ly, the percentage of total, and the cumulative total columns as shown in the sheet.

    Pareto Tutorial

    Next, create a chart by however your software creates charts. For Google Docs, choose Insert > Chart. Highlight the first and last columns, make the chart as pretty as you like, and you’ve got yourself a Pareto Chart.

    Pareto Tutorial

    Want to add more than one Tweet? Just start another table and add it into the chart’s ranges.

    Pareto Tutorial

    By the way, does anyone think it’s strange that:

    • These Pareto charts look nothing like normal powerlaw curves?
    •  These Pareto charts clearly indicate that the majority of the clickthrough action on these Tweets is not anywhere near the date or time that they were published?

    As Tom Webster says, do your own work. In this case, by charting out the clickthrough activity on the 3 most recent blog posts I shared on Twitter, I see that not only is there no best time to tweet for me, but that the real action on a tweet happens long after I publish it, which means that timing of my tweets isn’t nearly as important as some other factor. That means it’s time to go dig deeper into the data and find out why.

    I would strongly encourage you to play around with the data you have access to and see what light you can shine on it. There’s a good chance you’ll walk away with more questions than answers, but at least they’ll be better questions, right?


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  • Social media riff-raff

    Yesterday during the Social Media Plus LinkedIn session, this bit of advice was shared by the speaker and retweeted by the audience:

    Koka Sexton (kokasexton) on Twitter

    When I poked back at this chain of thought:

    Christopher Penn (cspenn) on Twitter

    …a couple of the folks clarified a bit:

    Koka Sexton (kokasexton) on Twitter

    If LinkedIn or other social networks imposed an actual cost on the number of connections you were permitted to have, then I think this viewpoint might have some validity, but unless your connections are flat out spammers, then there’s no harm in keeping people in your network who aren’t exactly on target for your audience.

    Allow me to illustrate some of the riff-raff in my network. Knowing me, knowing who I am and what I do, these people would probably have been culled years ago if I took the above advice.

    Here we have this guy:

    LinkedIn

    And this guy:

    LinkedIn

    Remove them from my LinkedIn network right away, right? After all, an applications engineer and an assistant athletic director should be worthless to me as a marketing professional, yes? Not so fast. The applications engineer in 2005? That’s now Chris Brogan.

    Chris Brogan | LinkedIn

    And the assistant athletic director and freelance writer? That’s now the Social Media Plus conference keynote speaker, Jason Falls.

    Jason Falls | LinkedIn

    My counter-advice to the idea of culling the riff-raff from your network is this: look at your social network like a nearly risk-free investment. You can place wild bets on all of the people asking to connect with you, and if you build relationships with them over time, some of them are not going to pan out and some of them are going to be superstars. Some, like the gentlemen above, will completely transcend what their original base of expertise was entirely – but you won’t know that today.

    Here’s an analogy to close this topic out: if you planted a field full of corn seeds today, you would be a fool to immediately declare the field a loss tomorrow if none of it had turned into fully grown crops overnight. Likewise, just because your LinkedIn network isn’t full of superstars today, don’t declare it a loss and start culling the riff-raff. Have time, have patience, and work on building the relationships today that will turn into powerful friendships and business partnerships in the weeks and months to come.


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  • A baseball parable about politics

    Once upon a time, there were two baseball teams, the Red Sox and the Yankees. Each team did its thing, and the owners made money, the players made money, the advertisers made money in the stadiums and on the televisions, and all was more or less well. Fans got to root for their teams and enjoy $7 hot dogs and mediocre beers while cheering from the seats. Occasionally someone even hit a fly ball into the stands and made everyone happy.

    MASFAA Closing Ceremonies at Fenway Park

    Then a rivalry developed between the two teams. Each team’s fans became more ardent supporters of their team and detractors of the opposing team. Red Sox fans didn’t like Yankees fans. Yankees fans didn’t like Red Sox fans. The rivalry grew intense over the decades, but strangely, it didn’t drive people away from the stadiums. Quite the contrary – people flocked to see their teams and cheer for their teams more than ever.

    The owners made more money. The players made more money. The advertisers made more money. The fans still got $7 hot dogs and beer, and started to express their dislike for the other team using words like war, traitor, and hatred. Fans even started to murder each other over the rivalry. But instead of trying to cool heated heads, we are content with the owners, players, media, and advertisers fanning the fires ever higher, even if the consequences of doing so are more dire, because the folks running the show (literally) are making a lot more money.

    This in the world of propaganda is known as a granfalloon, or minimal group paradigm. We create a largely meaningless distinction and divide people along that distinction until we’ve created two or more ardent camps that will do actual physical harm to each other.

    Now let’s port this idea over to the realm of politics. We have two large teams in the United States, the Republicans and the Democrats. We have owners – the campaign funders who benefit from the decisions made by lawmakers of each party. We have players – the elected officials we put in office and their appointees. We have advertisers and media who benefit from the enormous sums each election cycle. And we have the fans – us, the citizens.

    It should come as no surprise, then, that the bitter rivalry between the two teams in politics has the same outcomes as the bitter rivalry in baseball and is thus encouraged by the establishment for their benefit. The owners make a lot more money. The players make a lot more money. The advertisers and media make a lot more money.

    And the fans – we, the people? We get the equivalent of $7 hot dogs and beer, get to root for our teams, get to be divided into our respective camps and incited to violence for the benefit of the owners, players, and other interests running the show. One nation, indivisible? Hardly.

    The next time you have a knee jerk reaction to someone or something because of the political label on it or them, take a step back and recognize that you’ve been played by the moneyed interests and transformed from a rational human being into a rabid fan. Mentally remove your team jersey, put away the meaningless bluster you’ve been asked to recite by your team, and give some actual critical thought to what’s in front of you.


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  • Not another dime: a protest that works

    Dimes

    Please consider the following:

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is the protest that works.
    This is the protest that actually wakes up the powers that be.
    This is the protest that generates results, that generates real change.

    It’s the protest that says:

    I do not believe in you, therefore I do not do business with you. Not another dime until you change your ways.

    You want to change corporate America? Do not do business with companies you don’t believe in. You don’t like X company’s labor practices or wage practices or environmental practices? Don’t buy another thing from them. Find someone else. This is the age when you can Google for nearly everything and probably find 5 alternatives online that are cheaper, better quality, or more environmentally friendly.

    You want to change the rule of big banks? Do not lend them your money. Find a local credit union or community bank and bank with them instead. Check out mycreditunion.gov to find one near you, then go close your account with the big bank and do business elsewhere.

    You want to change the tone and tenor of Washington politics? Do not give a dime to any candidate running for office, period, because the electoral system is funded by individual donations as well as large companies. You want to make real change happen with your money? Skip the political candidate and donate to the local food pantry instead.

    On a big picture level, the ballot box certainly is one of the most powerful tools that a citizen of a country (if they have the right to democratically elect their leadership) has access to. But on a day to day basis, there’s an even more powerful tool: your wallet. Make conscious choices about what you believe in and support those choices with your money. Encourage others to do so as well. You don’t need to convince everyone, just 4-5 friends and colleagues to make similar choices.

    When you choose to stop doing business with someone, let them know why. Send them an email. Post it on their facebook page. Write up a blog post. Say to them very publicly and succinctly, with substantiation or citation of the facts you used to make your decision, here is why I am not giving you another dime. Hashtag it #notanotherdime or something like it so that others can see you and join you.

    As evidenced by the powerful protests above, it does work.

    Disclosure: I’ve been banking with a credit union since 2001. I do not hold investments outside of index funds in any banks.


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  • Basics before the basics

    How many of you remember the classic martial arts movie The Karate Kid? If you’ve never watched it, go find it on the movie rental service of your choice.

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    Remember how Ralph Macchio’s character Daniel was put through a series of seemingly pointless exercises by his teacher Mr. Miyagi, the most famously quoted being “wax on, wax off”? As humorous as those examples were, they served an important purpose, to teach Daniel about the basics before the basics in the martial arts. Wax on, wax off was a rote drill designed to teach the chudan-uke mid-level block to a punch, and by having him practice it over and over again in the context of a chore, Mr. Miyagi got the motion into Daniel’s muscle memory.

    The martial arts in real life are filled with these kinds of exercises, designed to give beginners a strong foundation in the basics before they even start fundamental techniques like basic routines (kata). In my own training, we have conditioning exercises to strengthen key muscle groups, agility exercises, coordination exercises, and so on. Each of these exercises contributes to the base skills needed to make techniques work. These are called the basics before the basics, the raw materials that we fashion building blocks from.

    It should be no great stretch of the imagination, then, to envision the basics before the basics of digital marketing. What pre-requisites would you expect of a new employee or a new vendor that would come before even wondering if they know how to use Twitter or Facebook to generate results?

    Here’s a short list of some things I might look for, some of the basics before the basics of digital marketing and social media:

    1. Is the person a strong writer? Writing is the foundation, the bedrock, of most content creation. Even things like audio or video often rely on a written script in order to deliver maximum impact. Can you communicate ideas clearly? Can you create language that is persuasive? If you can write well, you can apply that skill to nearly every form of content generation.

    2. Is the person a good analyst? Given a set of information, a set of data, can they extract something of value, some insight from it? They don’t have to be a Ph.D. in statistics, but they should be able to look at a pile of data, make a chart from it, and at least see if there’s some kind of trend, because that’s the foundation of web and social media metrics.

    3. Is the person a good researcher? When posed with a question, can they come up with a solution by any legal means necessary? Can they Google intelligently? Can they put together discrete information sources and find an answer? Can they learn independently, without much guidance or hand holding? The ability to find the right answer and the persistence and willingness to get one is also a foundation skill.

    As you can see from this short list, there isn’t a lot that’s needed as the basics before the basics. Like a good boxer, you don’t need a huge toolkit to be effective, but you need to be able to use the tools you have with excellence and consistency.

    Those of you who come from an education background should immediately recognize the old cliche of reading, writing, and arithmetic in the three core skills listed above, the basics of the basics. In our quest for the newest shiny objects, we often lose sight of the fundamentals that can make us great, that are pre-requisites for us being great. While it’s great to have the newest, shiniest, most buzzworthy tools and services at our fingertips, it’s ultimately meaningless if we don’t have mastery of the basics to use them.

    Side note: the mid-level block is surprisingly difficult to do correctly. In the picture above, from Flickr, if you do it wrong against something like a kick, you get your arm broken. Don’t try martial arts without the supervision of a qualified instructor.


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  • How to Get Started With Google+ Pages for Business

    Web 2.open name tagAnnounced a couple of days ago, Google+ for Business Pages (henceforth G+BP) are now available. With the rollout, let’s look at a few key points:

    1. You can’t circle individuals unless they circle you first. This is a nice change as a consumer, tough on the marketer – it prevents you from mindlessly spam circling the entire network.

    2. G+BP Profiles are exactly like every other profile on Google+. Configure it appropriately, provide lots of data about your business, and bonus, you can stuff inbound links into your About section if you want to encourage some clickthrough. If you’ve got behaviors and practices working well for you personally, do more of the same with G+BP.

    3. G+BP for local business are bound to your Google Places data. Make sure that’s appropriately configured first.

    4. The G+BP is bound to one personal G+ account only. Before you just go off and create it, it’s important to think about who is going to own the business page. Once created, it currently cannot be transferred, delegated, or shared.

    5. The G+BP isn’t unique. Businesses can have multiple pages, so your product manager, for example, could run a G+BP just for his or her product line, while someone else runs the corporate brand.

    6. For smaller companies and brands, there is no verification process that certifies your G+BP as yours currently. This means that a competitor can in theory create an identical page to yours and there’s not much you can do about it except complain to Google.

    Now, let’s talk about building up your G+BP. Here’s the bottom line: in order to keep the experience of Google+ sane for the consumer end user, businesses have a severely limited set of outreach tools. This is a good thing and a smart move by Google to keep misbehavior to a minimum.

    One of the few outreach tools available to G+BP owners is the ability to promote your G+BP to the personal owner’s audience. Logically, pick the employee at your company that already has the largest following on Google+ and have them own and promote your G+BP to get your presence jump-started. From there, hit your standard new social network recipe card to build momentum.

    What, you didn’t get that card in your social media cookbook? Okay, fine, here’s mine. Return it when you’re done and try not to get cole slaw all over it.

    1. Put up all your content first. Have something of value out there, get all the basics in place like photos, etc.

    2. Set up a short URL or redirect of some kind that’s memorable, because Google+ doesn’t allow for customized URLs. That will be easier for employees and evangelists to share. For example, I have cspenn.com/g for my page. For the company page, I set up whatcounts.com/gplus.

    3. Link up your G+BP on your website using the Badge Maker so that you get the benefit of the rel=publisher tag and make yourself eligible for Google Direct Connect. If there’s going to be a true domain-name style land grab, it will be around Direct Connect, so don’t skip this step.

    4. Ask your employee base to promote your G+BP to their networks. This is doubly easy if your employees are using Google+ for Apps, since you can just send an all-system email. If they’re already on Google+, they should circle the company page first.

    5. Hit your mailing list! This should be a no-brainer, but it’s amazing how we overlook this part. To get your initial seed momentum going, hit your list.

    6. Cross promote on all your other networks. Again, an oft-overlooked no-brainer.

    With this short recipe card, you should be able to get off and running with your new Google+ for Business Page(s). Everything that happens after this is up to you.


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  • 4 vital search strategies for social media marketers

    Take a look at the following charts and graphs.

    Popular social media expert:
    Visitors Overview - Google Analytics

    Well known social media company:
    Visitors Overview - Google Analytics

    Social media and marketing media outlet:
    Visitors Overview - Google Analytics

    Notice something? All of the sites that strongly rely on social media (50% or more of their traffic) have gotten pantsed over the past year in terms of traffic. Why?

    It’s gotten so noisy in social media that the predominant way most of us are going to be found and discovered these days en masse isn’t through social media. It’s going to be through search. In looking at these accounts, their search volume has gotten stagnant or has declined!

    With that in mind, here’s a simple but not easy question: how carefully are your search and social activities tied together?

    After all, search has changed dramatically in the past few years, and many people are using old rulesets in their heads when it comes to SEO. Let’s see how up to date you are:

    How important is on-site optimization?

    Once upon a time, keyword stuffing, bolding text, and precise link text on each page mattered a great deal. Those days are gone. Today, the few things left that matter are:

    – Appropriately named page and post titles
    – Awesome content that is shared
    – Fresh content
    – A regularly updated XML sitemap

    Let’s be very clear about the demands being asked of you as a content producer: you must have awesome content, created frequently, shared often. This is a tall, tall demand, but if you want to be found, if you want to be shared, if you want to be known, you have to hit these goals. Awesome content that’s infrequent won’t win you the game any more – the freshness update penalizes you. Mediocre content or repurposed content won’t win you the game any more – the Panda updates penalize you for that. Content that isn’t shared penalizes you, thanks to social signals in rankings.

    What matters in off-site optimization?

    Once upon a time, building links as fast, furiously, and far as possible was the sole way to win the off-site optimization game. Nothing else mattered except links, links, links, and you could get them any way you could. Today, that game has changed, too. If you haven’t read the SEOMoz 2011 Ranking Factors study, you missed the boat:

    – Relevance matters
    – Pay to play is getting tougher
    – Social sharing matters a great deal
    – User behavior matters
    – … all that said, more links are still generally better than fewer links

    As a social media marketer, you have a great deal of opportunity to nail all of the criteria search engines consider important to a site showing up. If you’re cultivating a focused audience in social, getting them to do things that matter (share, link up, click on relevant search results, etc.) should be easier than the average marketer working with very little, but we’re not putting our resources together.

    For example, the social media expert listed above has over 300 recent tweets, but only one of them references their site or a post they’ve written recently. I’m all for conversation and community, but throw yourself a bone every now and again, buddy. Your search viability is counting on it, and with as many fans/followers/friends as you have, getting powerful search signals out of the audience should be relatively trivial and would reverse that slow decline in your site’s traffic.

    What should you be doing?

    Here’s your recipe card, if you’re looking for the quick answer, the TL;DR:

    1. You must create awesome content. Sorry. There’s no getting around this. If your content sucks, then you need to level up your content creation skills. Go read Content Rules by CC Chapman and Ann Handley if you need help on this front.

    2. You must publish awesome content frequently. How often? Google is starting to report freshness results in hours and minutes, not days and weeks. Get a plugin like Editorial Calendar for WordPress to help keep you on track.

    3. You must have a structurally sound website using XML sitemaps properly and doing title-based on-site SEO. Your content should be appropriately titled for words and phrases that other human beings might actually search for. Test out your blog titles or parts of titles in the Google Adwords keyword tool if it’s a really important post. You should be publishing content on a blog that has a syntactically correct RSS feed, ideally routed through Google’s Feedburner service.

    4. You must get people to do things with your content. Share it, link to it, retweet it, post it on Google+, hit the +1 button – anything and everything you can do to demonstrate that other human beings find value in your content. That’s one of the reasons I switched my newsletter to weekly, to get more people back to my content, sharing it, and doing stuff with it.

    Is this recipe card complete? No. There are plenty of little things that happen after this, but if you don’t get these 4 steps right, you’re totally hosed, so focus on them first. This is the foundation of what I do, and I think it’s working:

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    That’s not a boast. That’s an exhortation for you to go and do likewise. You have the recipe. You have the tools. Get to it.


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