Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

First take on Facebook Timeline, Open Graph, F8
Yesterday I posted my initial thoughts about the new Facebook Timeline after the F8 keynote.

1. Winners: media outlets. Spotify, Hulu, many others. The Open Graph intends to socially enable every possible aspect of your life in as automated a fashion as possible. Who can attract the most eyeballs? The common denominator content providers and big houses.

2. Losers: batch and blast organic marketers. The way marketers are going to get to audiences through Timeline and Open Graph is pretty clearly through Apps. For everything else, you’re going to be using the Ads system. All those Likes and other things? They don’t appear as though they’ll significantly impact this new interface except in the most peripheral of ways.

3. Winners: the popular. Edge Rank has been filtering the real time feed; Open Graph’s new Graph Rank will filter the Timeline and access to eyeballs for apps. Marketing will need to reinforce apps with other channels to ensure their success. If you’re good at marketing, good at building buzz, good at aggregating crowds, you will win.

4. Losers: the entrepreneurs and independents. If you have no budget and/or no capabilities to promote your stuff – whether you’re a content producer, media maker, or developer – you’re pretty much screwed. Everyone else who is a better marketer or has a bigger budget is going to run you over.

5. Winners: the data driven. Over time, you can bet that Timeline and Open Graph data will be made available via API. There’s a huge bounty available for anyone who can crunch massive pools of data and extract insights from it. Imagine being able to do massive data insight gathering from an entire lifetime instead of just a few status updates and likes.

6. Losers: people concerned about privacy. If you thought managing privacy controls now was tough, just wait till you face an entirely new set for Timeline and Open Graph.

Final food for thought: Facebook isn’t doing anything new, data-wise. If you’re creeped out by this, then realize that most of this data is already in their system. They’re simply designing a new way to organize it. Sure, stuff like Timeline and Open Graph will let more parts of your life be socialized, but the vast majority of relevant Timeline data like photos, status, likes, etc. is already in the machine. That said, think carefully about the implications of what this means for what you do online. Here’s Mashable’s take:

Although not as big a deal as the Timeline, this tweak may be one of the more controversial. Previously, apps had to ask every time they shared information about you in your profile. Now, the first time you authorize the app, it will tell you what it’s going to share about you. If you’re cool with that, the app never has to ask you again.

Imagine the first time a politician’s Netflix history is published and we find some entertainment choices that run counter to their professed values.

What are your initial thoughts and takeaways from the Facebook F8 announcements?

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September 23, 2011
Build your base during the Facebook/Google+ wars
Platforms are changing, evolving, iterating more rapidly than ever. With great change comes great disruption as people move from place to place. Familiar, stable locations suddenly become unstable as mass migrations occur. With that in mind, your home base is now more important than ever. It’s the one thing under your control, the one thing that is as stable and as predictable as possible in turbulent times.

Remember MySpace? So many people, so many companies, sunk thousands of hours and dollars into building out their presence. Companies launched million dollar campaigns to drive traffic to MySpace pages. Bands abandoned their websites in droves to set up MySpace pages. All of that marketing, all of that effort, and today MySpace is a digital foreclosure, with the same weeds and abandoned properties look of the worst neighborhoods.

Right now Facebook and Google+ are battling it out for mindshare and marketshare. Tides of battle will swing back and forth as each network seeks dominance over being the social network of record. This creates turbulence among your customers. Today’s most avid Facebookers might be moving to Google+ or vice versa. The audience you’ve come to rely on today in one network may suddenly be on a different network tomorrow. With this much migration, with this much uncertainty, home base is all you have.

What is home base?
- It’s the website you own and operate.
- It’s the domain name that you bought.
- It’s the content you wrote that is exclusively yours.
- It’s the mailing list that you encourage people to sign up for at every opportunity.
- It’s the discussion forum that you moderate on your site.
It’s the places you have under your control, the audiences that you manage, the only stuff that is truly yours.

If you’re not growing home base, you’re leaving yourself to be a casualty of war between the major powers as they battle for social media dominance.

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September 22, 2011
Your 10 Step Google+ Launch Day Checklist
Google+ is now open to the public and with that opening, corner offices are asking marketing departments around the world: “What are we doing with Google+?” If you need an answer besides “I don’t know”, this post is for you.

First and foremost, brands are still not rolled out, so put the thought of a corporate page out of your mind for the moment. Let’s talk about building up your personal G+ presence. As with all social networks, size does matter, so feel free to send this post to the rest of your marketing team. The more people from your company that follow these steps, the more powerful your network of people will be to support the main company page when brands are allowed to launch.

1. Set up a profile that doesn’t suck. Take the time to fill it out and tell people about who you are. Bonus: add in your blog and other recommended links to ensure complete coverage of your digital presence. If you’re doing this as part of a company, make sure you’ve got your company in there!

2. Set up a redirect. Google+ still doesn’t have friendly URLs. Set up a redirect off your domain name that is easy to remember. I’ve got cspenn.com/g for mine.

3. Seed your network. Google+ pulls from GMail and Google Contacts. Take your personal mailing list and dump it into your Google Contacts, then find those people on Google+ and circle them as existing contacts.

4. Turn on those social widgets. The +1 button now lets you share publicly, so if you’ve got a blog or website that can use widgets from companies like ShareThis, AddThis, etc., make sure they’re up to date and active.

5. Lame as it may be, if you have pages on the web that are important to you (like your company, your blog, etc.) hit the +1 button on them now.

That way you’re getting your pages into G+ (and Google’s real time SEO analytics):

6. If you use social networks in your email signature, add in your G+ redirect.

7. Sync your social! On a regular basis, remind people on each network where you are on other networks:

8. Make sure all your welcome pages have Google+ integrated into them.

9. If you’re not already sharing and participating on Google+, now would be a good time to start.

10. Go back and read how to set up metrics on Google+.

Google+ is out the door and publicly available. If you haven’t had a chance to use it until now, use this checklist to lay the groundwork for getting up and running really fast.

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September 21, 2011
Finding connections in blog comments
Borrowing an idea from Tom Webster‘s social media monitoring, let’s take a look at your blog’s comments today.

Start with WordPress (any blogging software will do, however). Open up your comments section and look at only approved comments, as I assume you de-spam your comments regularly before approving them.

Open up your text editor of choice and begin copying and pasting the last 10 pages of comments into it. If you’re feeling more sophisticated than copy/paste, open up MySQL and do an export of the post text column only to simplify the next steps.

Dedupe it if your software allows you to dedupe by line. Remove any obvious formatting or data-only lines and you should be left with a large text file of your recent blog comments.

Now fire up Wordle and feed this large chunk of text into it:

Two questions for you:

1. Do the largest words in the cloud express an intended focus of your blogging? That is, if you blog about marketing or social media, are the comments you’ve received indicative of that? If not, your content may be somewhat off target.

2. Are there words or word associations in the cloud that you didn’t expect to find in there? For example, in my cloud above, I found that people was unusually prominent and it turns out that the word people is used very heavily when referencing how to build social networks like Google+.

Got a blogger you respect? Run their comments through the same mechanism and see if you have anything in common with their audience. Here, for example, is Chris Brogan:

So, what are people saying about your blog posts?

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September 19, 2011
Simple pleasures
I woke up this morning to delightfully crisp autumn air blowing through my window. The cool air, evoking memories of apple cider, brilliant leaves, photo walks, and Halloween, heralds in one of my favorite seasons.

Amazing and astonishing that something as simple as the right air temperature at the right time of year can have such a powerful effect on us.

Think back over your life for a few moments. What triggers of wonderful memories do you have stored in your head? How easy is it for you to get to them?

Here’s your task for the day. Go find one of the triggers you have control over (smell of bacon or coffee in the kitchen, taste of a food that brings back a rush of memories) and use it today to change your emotional and mental state. Then, after realizing how easy it is to change states, start making a catalog of those triggers so that you can take greater and greater control over the happiness you experience out of each day.

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September 16, 2011
Creating conditions for serendipity
I often say that serendipity is a wonderful gift and a terrible strategy. Serendipity is the encouragement of spontaneity, such as running into a friend, fan, or follower at a conference and finding out there’s a business opportunity there.

By its very nature, it is unreliable and unpredictable. Making serendipity part of your marketing plan is a disaster waiting to happen because of its disconnected, nearly random nature. That said, just because it’s not reliable doesn’t mean it’s not valuable – quite the contrary. Some of the most valuable friendships and business partnerships you can achieve are through serendipity.

How do you, then, encourage serendipity? Think of it like a forest fire. Forest fires need lots of fuel, ideal climate conditions, and a spark to set them off. There are relatively few forest fires in the Sahara desert. (yes, technically there are none because it’s a desert biome and not a forest by definition) There are relatively few forest fires in the Atlantic ocean. That’s a silly example, but it reinforces the point.

Lots of fuel

Forest fires don’t burn well without something to burn. A sparse forest offers few chances for flames to jump from area to area. Conversely, a forest with lots of tinder, lots of kindling, and lots of wood to burn for a long time will sustain a great fire. Think about that when it comes to the content you’re creating. A thousand tweets alone are akin to dry leaves everywhere. They’ll make a bright, big flame for a minute or so, but then they’re gone and without anything else, there’s no fire. Conversely, a massive blog without any other smaller bits of content will certainly burn for a long time, but it’s going to take forever for it to catch fire.

Equally important, all of the tinder and wood in the forest in a single big pile will certainly make for a big bonfire, but if you’re trying to catch the serendipity of sparks, having things spread out a little more will make it more likely that something will catch alight. To that effect, if you have a network of friends or coworkers, make sure they’re blogging and using social networks as well, and not just on the company website, but on their own properties as well.

Ideal climate conditions

Forest fires don’t generally spread well when it’s pouring rain. Some of the things you do in social networks likewise create “rainy” weather, dampening the conditions for sparks to catch fire, such as setting your networks’ privacy settings to friends only or not making use of public subscription mechanisms. If you’re concerned about privacy, set up a private social network identity for friends and family that is locked down so you can safely share photos of the kids, etc. in relative privacy, then have a public-facing identity separately that can be socially visible.

Some things to check:
- Are your publicly-facing Facebook updates marked for the general public?
- Are your Google+ posts marked for the general public?
- Are your Tweets unrestricted?
- Do you allow Facebook subscriptions?
- Do you have a Facebook fan page?
- Are your LinkedIn updates public? If automated, are they pulling from your other public feeds?
Sparks

The last thing a raging wildfire needs to get started are sparks, whether from lightning or a careless match tossed in the woods. In the discussion of social serendipity, the sparks are within the people in your network itself, piles of flint and steel. Are you building your networks for the present or the future? Are you aiming for the short term or the very long view? Because of its unpredictable nature, serendipity almost demands a long view, a long-term plan for growing a network. Put as many people as practical in it now and in the days ahead, but don’t worry about being too selective. Today’s intern is tomorrow’s marketing director, and may be the spark that lights a giant fire.

Sparks don’t happen in a vacuum, though. A pile of flint and steel that’s at rest does nothing. No sparks are created. It’s only when they’re moving together, bouncing off each other, that sparks are created. A large social network that never interacts with you or itself does nothing. You have to be the one stirring up the flint and steel, engaging, talking, sharing, so that the individual pieces of flint and steel move around and create a chance for sparks to fly.

Wait for the fire

The last part is hardest. You’ve got the fuel. You’ve got the right climate. You’re milling around, seeing the sparks start to fly. Keep creating fuel. Keep the air dry and the winds blowing. Keep engaging and conversing, making sparks. Then bide your time for one to catch. It’s not easy and it’s not immediate, which is why serendipity is a poor strategy. But when the fire does catch, if you’ve done everything else right, you’ll have an impressive blaze that will last for some time.

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September 15, 2011
How to value social media audiences
What’s the value of a Facebook fan? A Twitter follower? Suppose you wanted to get an apples-to-apples comparison of the value of different audience members. How would you go about getting that information? Here’s one method that might work for you based in Google’s Multichannel Funnel analytics.

To get started, first make sure you have goals and goal values set up for your site. If you don’t have these established, nothing else is going to matter much, so make sure they’re working first.

Next, go to Google Analytics and set up custom conversion segments for each of the channels you want to track. This follows the identical syntax for setting up social media segments in regular analytics, which you can find in this post. In this example, I’ve set up conversion segments for Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook.

With the basic segments set up, you should now see your channel values for the individual networks and conversion overall.

It’s time to bust out your spreadsheet. Set up columns for each of the values that Google shows you – channel, assist value, last interaction value, and a summary column. Then, if you’re using the standard 30 day timeframe that Google Analytics uses, measure the average audience count on each of the channels you have over the past 30 days. For example, if you had on average 5,000 followers on Twitter in the past 30 days, use that.

Create 3 columns after the total, audience value per total, per assist, and per last touch, and set up simple division between the audience column and the dollar value columns:

This gives you a dollar value per audience member for the total, for the assist, and for the last touch. From here, start thinking about questions you need to ask and cases you need to test. For example, in the above chart, Facebook is bringing half the value per audience member of Twitter. Why is this? Is it something I’m doing with Twitter that I’m not doing with Facebook? Have I got a better, more targeted audience on Twitter? This is a case worth investigating – are there practices I could be doing on Facebook that would drive more value, or different pools of audience to fish in?

Another question that leaps out is that Twitter has a relatively low assist value, meaning it doesn’t push people into conversions, as strongly as it provides last touch value. Should I be doing something different on Twitter to improve assist value, and what can I do to improve assist value without cannibalizing from last touch value?

There’s an important warning I have to give here: none of the above data are answers. None of the above data tells you conclusively that you have the right audience, right offer, and right content. None of the above data should make you immediately change your marketing practices. The above data simply tells you what’s happening now and is the starting point for asking new questions. It is by no means an endpoint for leaping to conclusions.

By setting up apples to apples comparisons of the value of various audiences, you’ll end up in a better place, a better position to ask questions about where you’re finding your audiences and how they’re working for you. Try this out and see what new questions you can ask about your social media efforts.

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September 14, 2011
How to set up a social media split test
A split test is any situation in which you want to measure the effect of your content. Services such as Bit.ly, Argyle Social, and many other shorteners provide you with nearly everything you need to conduct an effective, statistically valid test. Let’s look at how you might deploy one using Twitter.

First, design your links. We’re going to use my blog’s Twitter welcome page as an example. I need to have four different tweetable links that track separately. I’ll start by feeding the welcome page to Google’s URL builder to ensure correct GA tracking.

This first tweet will be tagged dmwelcome1. I’ll set up four of these URLs:
- https://www.christopherspenn.com/welcome-aboard/?utm_source=socialmedia&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=dmwelcome1
- https://www.christopherspenn.com/welcome-aboard/?utm_source=socialmedia&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=dmwelcome2
- https://www.christopherspenn.com/welcome-aboard/?utm_source=socialmedia&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=dmwelcome3
- https://www.christopherspenn.com/welcome-aboard/?utm_source=socialmedia&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=dmwelcome4
Next, let’s feed each to Bit.ly so that we get a nice clean link for tweeting.

For this experiment, I’m going to set up a series of four direct messages on Twitter. You don’t have to use automatically sent direct messages. This methodology works for Facebook pages, public tweets, Google+ posts – anywhere that you want to test the same destination content with different hooks to try to bring in new eyeballs. I am using auto-DMs mainly because I can get a fair number of responses very quickly. Think outside the box!

Here’s the four tweets I’ll load up:
- Thanks for following me. If you’d like to get to know me better, visit: https://bit.ly/cpdm-1
- Thanks for following me. If you’d like to learn more about me, visit: https://bit.ly/cpdm-2
- Thanks for following! Get to know me better here: https://bit.ly/cpdm-3
- Thanks for following me. Learn more about me here: https://bit.ly/cpdm-4
Now we’re ready to test out this four way split. Obviously, you can substitute any content you like, such as calls to action to sales and other things of interest. We’ll load each of the tweets into TweetAdder:

And we’ll dispatch 200 tweets (Twitter wisely imposes a hard limit of 250 DMs a day).

Now we watch and wait as the test goes out, looking at two things:
1. Which of the four tweets was most appealing to people as measured by clickthroughs using Bit.ly?
2. Which of the four tweets was most in sync with my site’s content as measured by Google Analytics conversions to newsletter subscribers?
Setting up your own four way, eight way, or however many way test using these freely available tools is just as straightforward. One suggestion I’d offer is to add in a fifth message, a control, that you tweet out in public and compare it to see how private versus public messages works for your audience.

Take this recipe, this methodology, and apply it to your own marketing to see how impactful it is.

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September 12, 2011
Fear less
I watched a young girl in the park tonight try to ride her bike. It was clear that she was having trouble getting started, afraid to fall, afraid to get hurt. Stop, start. Stop, start. Cry a little. Worry. After about seven tries, she set resolve, bit her lip, put both feet on the pedals, and soared.

She beat her fear. It was still there, but she kept going, kept trying, and endured it to set herself free, hair blowing in the wind as she pedaled past everyone.

Would that we all had her courage, not to be fearless, but to know we can beat our fears and fear less. When we can, when we do, we soar as well.

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September 11, 2011
A Simple Daily Promotion Recipe
There are innumerable ways to promote your content, from email marketing to social media to even things like billboards, but many are campaign-based, requiring significant resources to implement. For the average piece of content, such as a blog post, that isn’t tied to a specific campaign, we tend to just throw it out there and hope someone takes notice of it.

There’s a middle way between all-out promotion and complete ignorage, what I like to call my daily promotion recipe. This method is unique to me because of where I’ve chosen to focus my attention; use it to create your own methodology rather than just photocopying this, because if your network is at all different from mine, it simply won’t produce results for you.

1. Create content that doesn’t totally suck. This should be obvious, but isn’t. Ideally you do this with a blog that has an RSS feed.

2. Set up any tracking URLs you need to before you start publishing. Bit.ly links, Google Analytics tags, etc. – make sure you do this part in advance, because you’ll forget otherwise.

3. Draft any Tweets, posts, etc. in a text editor so that your witty commentary is ready to go.

4. Make sure you have an RSS to email solution set up, and set it for when you’re active on social networks. I use Feedburner and typically have my blog posts done by 9 AM most days. This gets an email out the door when you’re generating other social activity – vitally important so that people are getting your message in as many ways as practical during the same time period, to better enhance message synergy.

5. Post to your anchor social networks – Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Google+. Whichever of these are your power bases, publish there. If you can wrap it in some form of routine publication, do so – I wrap my stuff usually in #the5.

6. Post to a content discovery network. I prefer Stumbleupon, but that’s where my base is right now. You might use Reddit, Digg, Delicious, or other networks.

7. Whenever your publication cycle is, set up an opposing diurnal message. For example, if you’re active in the mornings, consider scheduling a tweet or Facebook post for the evening crowd. If you’re active late in the day, set up something for the next morning.

This simple recipe is one you can execute in a very short period of time, probably 15 minutes or less, and it covers all the basics for ensuring that your regular, non-campaign content is getting at least some love. Adapt it to your own workflow and social networks, and see if having a regular content push on a daily basis makes a difference for site traffic and social reputation.

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September 9, 2011

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