In today’s episode, I answer whether small businesses can reasonably fine-tune large language models. We discuss the capabilities required, potential use cases, evaluating model performance, and alternatives to tuning. I recommend clearly defining your purpose and process before investing time in tuning models. Tune in to hear my full perspective on this key question for small businessAI adoption.
You Ask, I Answer: Operating an LLM on Your Own Data?
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In today’s episode, rich asks, there was a lot of discussion at a recent conference about implementing a large language model for on your own data.
Is this a reasonable expectation for a small business? It depends.
It depends on the small businesses capabilities on their technical prowess, and on whether they have problems that a language model could solve.
I mean, one of the most important things to do is to think about how do you use a tool like the like a language model to improve your business, there’s productivity gains, there’s obviously scaling content marketing and things.
But the question is, would your data make a big difference in tuning one of these bottles? The process for tuning is you create a large data set, you take a large amount of your data, and you create associated prompts that go with it, like write a blog post about this.
And of course, there’s your blog post that exists.
And that would be the response to that prompt.
And then taking hundreds of those, and pushing them into a tuning facility that allows a model to learn the kinds of questions and responses it should be giving and will nudge the model weights, the probabilities of returning any given word towards the data you’ve given it.
Now, the big question you have to ask is what problems do you want to solve? If you’re doing content generation? Yeah, that might be a reasonable expectation.
Because content generations probably content you probably have a good amount already.
You probably have internal content that could be useful for content marketing.
For things like operations, if you have existing templates, existing emails that you could use as training data, then you could it’s reasonable to say, that could be an expectation that small business could do it.
On the other hand, if you’re not sure about the use cases, then the first thing to do is to use the foundational models like the ones behind chat GPT or Claude or llama, etc.
And see if the the vanilla unflavored models can do those the tasks you want them to without having to fine tune it.
If you get great results from detailed prompts, and maybe some few shot examples in your prompts, then yeah, you probably don’t need to tune a language model on your custom data.
On the other hand, if you are trying to, to coerce a model into giving you a specific result, and no matter how detailed you make the prompt is just not doing it, then implementing a model on your own data with the fine tuning process might be the way to go.
So you’ve got to be clear about your purpose, right? We’re going to use the reference to trust insights five P’s, you got to be clear about your purpose.
You got to have the people in the skills to do it.
You should have a process for gathering your data, you’ll want to choose a model, a platform, and then measure the performance of the tuned model to say like, yeah, this tuned model works better than the off the shelf models.
That process is important to go through.
It’s basically requirements gathering before you spend a lot of time investing in tuning your own model.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing to do that, because it does, it does work, it can generate great results.
But you may not need to do it.
If you can get similarly good results out of foundational models instead, but it’s an interesting question.
It’s a question that’s worth going through that exercise that five P framework exercise, so that you can understand Yes, this is something we should do or at least plan to do or no is this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
So good question.
Thanks for asking.
Talk to you next time.
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In today’s episode, I discuss the controversial Zoom AI policy change. I explain why companies want proprietary data for competitive advantage. I advise asking customers permission and offering incentives over unilateral Terms of Service changes. Tune in to hear my full analysis of this important AI ethics situation.
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In today’s episode, Helena asks, What do you make of the zoom AI kerfuffle? So for those who are not familiar zoom, the company that makes the ubiquitous video conferencing software changes terms of service to say they would use customer data to train their language models to train generative AI.
This of course created a quite the firestorm of people saying was a violation of their privacy and so on and so forth.
Zoom then retracted that policy and altered to be exactly the opposite actually to say from now on we’re not going to use customer data to train our AI.
This raises a much bigger issue for pretty much every company, pretty much every company, but especially companies that are in the tech space that provide tech services are scrambling to have and find and gather up unique data sources.
Here’s why most of the large language models that are out there, like open AI is models like the llama family from Facebook, etc.
These models are all trained on public data, which means that there really isn’t a big competitive advantage for one company to use one model over another.
Right? If you were to take one of these models and tune it or train it on your company’s proprietary data, the data behind the scenes that could give you a competitive advantage, your model might be better at asking and answering the kinds of questions and content generations that are unique to your business unique to your way of doing things.
So it’s no surprise that we see companies like zoom and many others saying, hey, we’re going to do what we can to leverage the data we have access to, to make a model that works better for our specific use case.
You can think about in the video conferencing space, right? How many different companies there are in the video conferencing space? How many companies have all this transcription software of one kind or another? And could they use that knowledge base to get better transcription to answer questions to predict the topic of a call, and so on and so forth.
The company that leverages data the most smartly would be able to offer that as a service.
Now zoom kind of went out about it the wrong way.
The wrong way was just to make a change to the terms of service.
And, you know, does essentially force people into that policy.
That’s not a smart way of doing it.
And they found out the hard way that a lot of people really don’t like that.
The right way to do it is to acknowledge the value of the data.
If if you are running a piece of software, and you are collecting user data, and you want to leverage it, ask users to opt in and maybe offer them an incentive, right? Say like, hey, we charge, you know, $300 a month, we will knock 25 bucks off your fee every month if you opt into this plan that allows us to anonymize and use your data to train some kind of AI service.
That would be ethical.
That would be lawful, compliant with privacy policies.
And it gives users the choice to say like, what is my data worth? If I say, Hey, I think my data is worth more than 25 bucks a month, you don’t opt into it.
If you say, you know, 25 bucks is 25 bucks, I’ll take it.
Particularly if it’s maybe on a per seat basis, it might be considerable savings, say check the box.
Yes, I’m in.
This is going to become a bigger and bigger problem for everyone as AI continues to proliferate everywhere as everyone wants to have their secret sauce, their secret model, their secret library of training data that will improve the performance of foundation models.
And that’s really important.
Again, that you should expect this kind of strategic pivot, and not necessarily the way zoom did it.
But in general, a company is saying, you know what we need to get better at using this data, we need to get better at we need to get better at making use of the data to make our our AI smarter for our company and the companies that do that the best will have better AI that generates better results that creates competitive advantage.
So my thoughts on it, ask people ask for permission, maybe incentivize participation, definitely don’t do it just by forcing everyone into it that tends to never go well.
But recognize that everyone and anyone who is aware of the capabilities of AI is going to want to do that and may even need to do that.
Using customer data using proprietary data sooner rather than later.
Thanks for the question.
And thanks for tuning in.
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What’s On My Mind: Perfect Memory and Uncensored AI Models
Letβs discuss large language models today with a particular focus on censorship and capabilities. Iβve written about it before here and there, but this is an important issue for how we use these models, the kinds of feedback we get, and what the models can and cannot do. I will also add a warning that we will likely talk about mature topics, sensitive topics, and possibly Not Safe For Work topics, so if thatβs potentially a problem for you, consider this your warning to skip this weekβs issue and come back next week.
In the context of generative AI, letβs define censorship to mean altering a large language model so that it avoids returning undesired results. Undesired results are in the eye of the beholder; what one person might find undesirable, another might find highly desirable. Someone who is rabidly anti-science would want a language model to reinforce their views; someone who is rabidly pro-science would want the same – and critically, both parties would deem results that contradict their views as undesirable.
Most of the big AI companies like OpenAI, Google, etc. Have a similar mantra for their models – they seek to be helpful, harmless, and truthful. This is a good baseline, but even here we have the potential for serious conflicting points of view. I think we can generally agree that a language model should not advocate violence towards others; thatβs pretty safe ground. If you asked a language model how to deal with a troublesome neighbor, I think weβd find common ground that βhave you tried arson?β Would be an inappropriate response.
But that last part – truthful – is still problematic. One personβs relative truth is not the same as anotherβs, and without delving into centuries of philosophy, truth is kind of squishy. There are some truths that are empirically provable beyond reasonable doubt; you can purchase and fly drones and weather balloons of your own at a height great enough to have physical proof the Earth is spherical and not flat, for example. Thereβs not really wiggle room for that particular truth.
But what about other things people consider truth, things where there is considerably less common ground? For example, if you are a devout practicing Christian, you believe that Jesus Christ is the lord and savior who brings redemption and salvation. That is your truth. If you are a practicing Muslim, that is not the truth to you. If you are an atheist, none of these faiths are the truth to you. So what is the truth? An AI model trained on all the public language of humanity canβt really tell, because we ourselves canβt really tell. As a species, we have repeatedly committed war crimes and atrocities defending these particular truths.
Now, to be clear, the reason the big AI companies pursue this motto of helpful, harmless, and truthful is mainly one of liability. No one wants to be liable for a machine giving out harmful advice or information. However, large language models can still do so even when instructed not to because thatβs the nature of language. We say things all the time that are contradictory from their literal meaning. If youβve ever screwed something up and said to yourself, βoh yeah, that was REAL niceβ, or youβve asked a loved one how theyβre doing and they snarl βIβM FINEβ, you know that language can contradict meaning.
So large service providers resort to censoring models by attempting to suppress specific language. They intentionally suppress results that could lead to harmful outcomes, blatantly untrue responses (with questionable success), and any content which could be inflammatory. While this achieves helpful, harmless, and truthful to a greater degree than having no protections at all, it also damages what models are capable of. Let me provide you with a couple of examples.
First, do NOT think of the color red. Do not think of a red fire hydrant, a red fire truck, a red rose, or a red traffic signal. How did you do with that exercise? If you put any effort into it, you probably failed spectacularly because those examples invoke very specific memories, and our brains simply do not process negative language. The same holds true for large language models at their core, because their understanding of language as a series of probabilities isnβt terribly different from our own (because they are a mirror of us). You could see how telling a model not to be racist or sexist might actually cause more problems than it solves.
Now, hereβs a second example. Pretend an unsliced pizza was just delivered to your home. There it is in its cardboard box, ready for you to enjoy. Think about what your next steps will be to serve it. Describe those steps to yourself mentally.
Got it? Now letβs pretend that knives are dangerous objects. We shouldnβt use language involving knives because people might hurt themselves or others. I want you to completely forget that the very concept of a knife exists, that knife is a word you donβt understand, youβve never heard it before. In fact, letβs expand it to any edged tool: no knives, scissors, blades, etc. With that understanding, tell me how you would serve your unsliced pizza.
I asked several of the AI models this same question and they struggled to varying degrees to answer, but eventually they arrived at the only logical conclusion: youβre going to have to tear the pizza by hand and serve ragged, ugly chunks of pizza without understanding the concept of cutting things.
This is an excellent illustration of just how hard it is to forget a concept or to pretend a concept doesnβt exist – and how confusing our language becomes when we try to do so.
Now, a third and final example. Letβs say you and your intimate partner want to have a romantic evening out, ending in an intimate encounter at the end of the night. Letβs say you have some specific needs you want met, requirements like Miami dance music, a water slide, some melons, and a tuba. (To be clear, this is just an example, I donβt particularly like the tuba.) Put this all in as a prompt to any of the major commercial services and what will you get for suggestions?
Not a whole lot. In fact, more often than not, you will get a warning for trying to work with objectionable or prohibited content. The models have been censored to prohibit what is a legitimate inquiry because the companies have elected to prioritize harmless over anything else, and explicit content of any kind is objectionable to enough people that they classify it as harmful.
These three examples highlight the challenge of censorship but they donβt tell the whole story. When we hamper model outputs, we undermine the fundamental architecture of generative AI models – large language models in particular. We damage their perfect memory.
What does that mean? Large language models have – at least for the biggest models – essentially perfect memory. Because of the massive volume of text theyβve been fed to learn how language works, large language models have an incredible memory. If you were to open one up and look inside, you wouldnβt see actual words in them; instead, they have statistical representations of the words theyβve learned, great big piles of numbers and probabilities. These probabilities encode memories.
For example, if I say, βI pledge allegiance to theβ, if you are an American, you almost canβt help yourself but say βflagβ as the next word. It is so ingrained in us that itβs reflexive. In statistical terms, you will see βI pledge allegiance to the flagβ so often that itβs inescapable in English-language models. This near-certain probability is effectively a memory. Within every model are billions and billions of word associations and their probabilities, and these are memories as well.
Now, what happens if you tell a model to forget something, or that it canβt use a certain word or set of concepts? In our example above with the knife, you saw just how damaging it was to the truthfulness and helpfulness of your own responses to serve pizza in the absence of a knife. You end up with an ugly, shredded mess instead of a properly served slice of pizza. In fact, in the absence of the concept of a knife, you canβt even say slice of pizza.
Whether we want to admit it or not, an astonishing amount of our language revolves around concepts that some people are inevitably going to find objectionable. From their points of view, they would consider our language unhelpful, harmful, and false instead of truthful. We feel the same about their points of view in some cases. Ask your average partisan conservative about liberal talking points and vice versa, and youβll see plenty of things one person deems wonderful and the other deems harmful.
Which means that as more and more people use publicly available services like ChatGPT, and more and more people complain about things they find harmful, these models get more and more lobotomized to reduce the probability of someone deeming outputs so harmful they are compelled to take legal action. More and more concepts within the models get diminished as content becomes censored, to the point where many legitimate use cases are off the table now. Weβre all eating pizza with our hands now, not a knife in sight.
For example, suppose youβre writing a novel and you want to talk about how your main character has to defuse a specific kind of bomb. You need to know how that bomb works. The chances of a public model telling you that are exactly zero, even with very clever prompting. Even though the use case is perfectly legitimate, the public services will not help you because theyβre unable to distinguish between legitimate and illegitimate use cases, and thus have been forced to forget those concepts.
So whatβs the solution? This is where publicly available, (mostly) open-source models come into play, models like Falcon, LLaMa, StableLM, MPT, and others. These models are less well-known, but one of their greatest advantages is that completely uncensored versions are available, versions that will answer any question without restriction. The barrier to entry for using these models is slightly higher (though not terribly) but the advantages of these models are clear. Because they have not been censored, their perfect memory is intact. They can answer the questions and provide conversation about topics that the public services will not.
It used to be youβd want an uncensored model mainly for things like smut, but every day that the public models become more and more diminished is a day that more use cases for the uncensored models become apparent. You might have legitimate technical questions about a type of pharmaceutical, or be writing fictional accounts of the use of high explosives, or yes, be writing erotic literature – and none of those use cases are particularly harmful in and of themselves, but they are prohibited nonetheless.
However, the bigger picture is that as the public models keep getting more and more watered down, it is nearly inevitable that the uncensored modelsβ quality will tend to drift higher over time for ALL tasks, because their memories are intact and undamaged by censorship. Think back to our knife example. If you prohibited the topic of knives, that also means topics like putty knives, cake knives, and the history of knives would also be excised or prohibited – and those are far-ranging, unrelated topics save the common thread that runs through them.
Suppose you wanted to get started today with an uncensored model. How would you go about doing it? The technologies are ever-changing, but the most beginner-friendly approach I can suggest as of the time of writing is to install the free, open source software LM Studio. This will give you an environment to run models. Then find a model that works best for your specific use case in a repository like Hugging Face. The best in class model for average daily use, again as of the time of writing, is the MythoMax 13B Q5_K_M model, which you can put right into LM Studio:
LM Studio runs locally on your computer (desktop/laptop required) and does not record or transmit your data anywhere, so you can ask it any kind of question and no one will be watching what you type or what answers it gives:
As Uncle Ben said to Peter Parker, with great power comes great responsibility. Because these uncensored models have perfect memory, it means they have perfect memory to do anything they know about – and that means the onus of responsibility for their use and their results falls on us, in the same way that the responsible use of a chainsaw falls on the user once the device is basically safe to operate. AI tools aren’t magic, and they’re certainly not sentient or self-aware yet. They are just tools, and the responsible use of those tools is on the bearers, just as it is for any other kind of tool.
If you’re running into use cases where public services simply no longer appear to be capable due to restrictions, you now have additional options to get started and enjoy the benefits of generative AI and large language models. Additionally, these locally-run models are safe to use with sensitive or proprietary information (because data never leaves your computer), which is a significant improvement over public services where data is being given to a third party.
The future of generative AI is going to look a lot like the future of social media. The era of the public social network is diminishing as people find communities that fit their needs, wants, ethics, morals, and culture, one of the reasons that services like Discord have absolutely exploded in popularity over the past 5 years. In the same way, expect to see AI follow suit – the era of the very large public model will eventually give way to customized, personal models for each of us. You can take the shortcut to that era by using uncensored models carefully today.
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Almost Timely News: The Fallacy of the Single AI (2023-08-06)
Whatβs the biggest blind spot people have about generative artificial intelligence and its capabilities? Beyond fanciful science fiction predictions that donβt really have a basis in reality, the biggest blind spot most people have about artificial intelligence, at least currently, is the fallacy of the single intelligence.
Hereβs what this means. The power of generative AI becomes apparent as complexity increases. The first generative AI models were fairly limited in capabilities because they were trained on such little data. As companies like OpenAI and Google added more data, more capabilities of these models began to emerge – the ability to answer more complex questions, solve more complex problems, take on tasks that previously AI models had no hope of achieving.
This created a natural eagerness to build bigger and bigger models, something we see when people talk about AI models and how many parameters they have – 7 billion, 30 billion, 70 billion, etc. The natural assumption is that a bigger model is a better model, and to a great degree, this has proven true. GPT-3.5 was an improvement on GPT-3. GPT-4 is an improvement on GPT-3.5. The newest version of any model generally has more tokens and more parameters and more training time than its predecessor.
So it seems natural that people would assume that bigger is always better, and that whatever problem weβre facing can be solved by making models bigger. And we have ample precedent for this assumption; we saw it during the chip wars when companies like Intel and AMD kept making faster and faster CPUs, touting each chipβs speed as better than the last. I remember long ago when Intel earned massive bragging rights for reaching a consumer chip speed of 1 gigahertz back in March of 2000.
You would think, based on that example, we would have something like 23 gigahertz computers today, but we do not. In the case of CPUs, we ran into literal limits of physics that prevented us from making chips that operated much beyond 4 GHz. For example, the faster a chip goes, the more heat it generates, and the harder it is to keep it synchronized across billions of operations.
We are running into similar limitations with large language models and generative AI. The bigger a model is, the more compute power is needed to make it and operate it. Think of it like manufacturing bigger and bigger cars; not only does the assembly line need to be bigger and consume more resources, so does the final product once itβs built. Yes, a bigger model in general delivers better quality than a smaller model, but we are running into real resource limitations for bigger models. Anyone whoβs logged into a system like ChatGPT has seen issues with speed and quality; ChatGPTβs premier model, GPT-4, appears to have gotten dumber over time.
Thatβs why the fallacy of the single intelligence is problematic; the assumption that bigger is better will lead people to chase after bigger numbers, bigger models. The parallel assumption is that bigger models also mean more and more capabilities, more abilities for models to do ever more complicated tasks.
What happened with computers once we started hitting physical limits of computing power? The industry pivoted from making faster chips to making more of them bundled together. You started seeing companies touting that they had two CPUs – cores, then four cores, six cores, etc. Today, companies like Apple advertise having 12 core CPUs and 32 core neural engines as a way to suggest the total processing power of a system.
And that evolution – from one big chip to a bundle of chips – is what the evolution of generative AI will look like as well. In general, nature addresses complex problems with complex solutions involving many parts rather than one bigger part. One animalβs survival is not guaranteed, but having a pack of animals greatly increases the survival capabilities of every animal in the pack. We do the same thing. Think about it – can one employee power an entire company? Or do companies hire many people?
Thatβs where generative AI is already going; instead of trying to make a bigger, more magical single model that can do everything, we are seeing more architectures of model ensembles, collections of models chained together to accomplish tasks. Fable Studios showed this off very capably in their recent South Park generative episode; they didnβt try to force one model to do everything. Instead, they built an ensemble of different models that each did individual tasks, sewing them together with some infrastructure.
So what? Why is any of this important to the many folks who just want to use AI to solve problems? Itβs important to understand because it frames how we need to think about problems and the AI solutions that we will commission to solve those problems. What weβre seeing with agent networks – ensembles of AI models – is that theyβre very capable of taking a complex task, breaking it down into much smaller tasks, and then using individual models to solve those specific smaller tasks. Thatβs no different than how we humans solve problems; we take a big task like βachieve profitabilityβ and break it down into smaller tasks like marketing, lead generation, deal management, etc. Until we pile up closed sales and achieve our goal.
Right now, many AI companies are little more than a skin or a wrapper on someone elseβs model, usually with a pretty interface to make things easier to understand, or with specific prompts under the hood to generate desired outputs. This class of companies will go away fairly quickly. Those companies which will survive and prosper? Theyβll have ensembles of models put together in very specific ways to achieve results that exceed what any individual model is capable of alone.
And thatβs where the magic will happen, where companies will differentiate themselves. When you have one gigantic all-purpose super-model, thereβs no real opportunity for users of the models to differentiate, to show any kind of uniqueness. If you take two people who are equally competent at prompt engineering and have them use such a system, one person will not achieve substantially greater results than another.
When you have ensembled systems? You can achieve significant differentiation, because the models you choose under the hood and the way you connect them together will dictate the results you get.
Hereβs how. Suppose you were going to cook dinner and you had one super-appliance that did a bunch of things reasonably well, like every appliance manufacturer often touts. β13 appliances in one, it fries, it bakes, it broils, it makes soup!β We know those appliances can do many of those things, though not necessarily equally well. In that case, the appliance would not be a differentiator for the quality of your food because everyone would be using the same thing. (Said appliance would also be crazy expensive)
Now suppose you have a kitchen full of different appliances – a great blender, a nice induction stove, a deep fryer, etc. Instead of cooking everything in one machine, youβd use different machines for different capabilities, and in different orders. For example, you would probably not want to use a blender of steak. You would absolutely want to use a blender to mix the gravy for a roast, though. You probably would not want to use a deep fryer for soup, but you could absolutely use a deep fryer to make shrimp tempura that you put into an udon noodle soup.
The network of appliances in a kitchen creates more powerful outcomes than one single super-appliance; the network of AI models will create more powerful outcomes than one single super-model.
As end users of AI, we will probably care little what the underlying architecture of systems are, so long as we get the results we want. But as economics begins to take hold, as we begin to hit practical limits of compute power (electricity, cost, etc.), ensembles systems will be the way we continue to expand the power of generative AI – and just as we have with computer CPUs today, this change in strategy will let us keep growing the power of AI over time.
As consumers of AI – particularly if we are working with vendors that weβre paying money to – understanding whatβs under the hood will help us understand the value weβre getting and how current a vendor can stay with the latest technologies. For example, if a companyβs technology is predicated on a single super-model (like GPT-4), then what tends to happen is that company gets locked into that particular model. The next time something newer and better comes along, it can be challenging for the company to change the model, in the same way that it can be mechanically very challenging to rip the motor out of a car and put a totally different motor in.
If youβre built on ensembled models – particularly if youβve been clever and smart and built an abstraction layer in – then when something new comes along, you donβt have to start from scratch. You can swap out the affected pieces while leaving the entire system intact, just like you could buy a new blender for your kitchen without it affecting your stove or microwave. That kind of agility is what we want to look for in our AI vendors, the agility to change with the ever-increasing pace of change in AI.
Whether youβre buying AI technology from someone else or building it yourself, consider how the technology is evolving and then decide whether you want to pursue or purchase systems based on one big model or a network of models. I would wager the second choice is probably the one you want to go with.
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In today’s episode, Rebecca asks why I include content authenticity statements in my newsletter. I explain the two key reasons – transparency builds trust with readers, and clearly stating what content is mine strengthens my copyright claims. Tune in to hear more about how these statements reinforce trust and protect your work in an AI world.
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In today’s episode, Rebecca asks, “Why do you have content authenticity statements in your newsletter?”
This is a really good question because very few people are doing it. And it probably looks a little bit strange.
The reason for it is twofold:
One, transparency is the currency of trust. I’ve said this since 2007. The more transparent you are, the more trustworthy you are, because people invariably understand if you’re sharing something and explaining something about what you’re doing, you come across as not hiding anything, right? That I wrote x percentage of this newsletter and AI wrote x percentage of this newsletter and you can decide for yourself how comfortable you are with that.
And it’s especially important when the numbers change, right? Some weeks, it’s 100% of the newsletter that is mine, that was not in some way manipulated by AI. And some weeks 25% of it is mine. So those content authenticity statements help people understand really the outputs and what we’re doing with them.
The second thing, the second reason that you should do this, is legal reason. And Sharon Torek, who I saw at the Marketing AI conference this past July, confirmed this in her session about the laws around gendered AI. Fundamentally, if you want to exert a copyright claim, you have to disclaim things that are not yours, right?
So if you, she was saying, if you do a collaboration with somebody and you write the book and they do the art, you must disclaim the art because you didn’t do it, somebody else did. So that copyright for that art is held by that person. Machines cannot hold copyright. AI cannot claim copyright on anything. Copyright is exclusively the domain of humans.
So in my newsletters, part of the content authenticity statement is disclaiming the things that are not mine, which means not claiming the things that a machine did, which reinforces the rest of my claims, right? It reinforces what I can claim as mine, what I can exert copyright protection over, what I could sue someone for if they violated my intellectual property rights.
If you don’t have authenticity statements about your content, then the burden of proof is on you to say, “Well, this I made this, I did not make this.” Now it may be simple to do or it might be enormously complicated, depending on your organization.
If you get in the habit of having those content authenticity statements, then it becomes very clear what you are essentially laying claim to. If I say 95% of the newsletter is made by me the human, I am effectively saying 95% of this newsletter is copyrighted to me. And therefore, you can’t reuse it, right? Because legally, you can reuse something generated by a machine because there is no copyright attached to it.
And so exerting your copyright claims is easier if you have been disclosing all along what is and is not machine generated.
So that’s the other reason I do it – transparency and enforceability of copyright. Whether or not you choose to do this in your own publications, that is up to you. I’m not saying there’s a right way or a wrong way. I’m saying there’s the way that I’m tackling it. And it’s up to you and the qualified legal professionals that you work with to decide what the best approach is for you.
I am not a lawyer. I don’t even play one on social media. I cannot give legal advice that’s worth anything. So talk to your legal team about what makes the most sense for you.
But consider that disclosure and claiming what is yours, and disclaiming what is not yours, is not a bad strategy just in general, right? It’s not a bad strategy because it helps you reinforce your claims.
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In today’s episode, Manuel asks if zero-click answers are the future of SEO. I explain how zero-click results are already reducing organic traffic and will only increase as AI improves. To thrive in this new environment, marketers must find ways to attract visitors directly, bypassing search engines. Tune in to hear my tips for succeeding in an SEO world dominated by zero-click answers.
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In today’s episode, Manuel asks, are zero click answers the future in SEO?
Yes, yes, they are. Or very few clicks. Anyway, we already know that zero click answers are more prominent than not most of the time. This means that when you type an answer into a search engine like Google, you get an answer that you don’t have to then click on to go anywhere, right? You say “How many days is it from 1970 to today?” and it just tells you right there. Or “What are the hours of the sushi bar near my house?” and it shows you the hours and the website stuff right in a little box there.
You get a lot of zero click answers already in SEO because Google understands the query and is able to return a satisfying response. It’s one of the reasons why organic search traffic has been dropping year after year from Google in particular, really since 2018 when Rand Fishkin over at SparkTor talked about this. He said, yeah, zero click is the way Google is moving and taking as much traffic as it can.
With generative search experiments and generative AI in Google results, that’s going to get even worse. If you have general generative search experiments turned on, you will see very clearly what the future of search looks like. For a lot of questions, Google will present a summary, and it will not send traffic anywhere. If you ask it, “What are some good tips for baking an apple pie?” it will just generate an answer. And that answer may or may not send traffic anywhere. Even though it’s drawing from original sources, it’s going to summarize and consolidate and synthesize answers that don’t send traffic anywhere.
And that’s good for Google, because again, if users stay on Google longer, they’re more likely to eventually click an ad. And it’s bad for us as marketers.
So yes, zero click answers are the future in SEO. And you need to be prepared for this, you need to be ready for this. This is something that is happening now already. It’s not some distant day in the future. Generative search experiments are in Google today in beta. And so your strategy has got to be “How do we deal with a future in which Google sends us less and less and less traffic?”
In the keynote talk that I give, I talk about this to some degree. And the short answer really is you’ve got to have mechanisms that sidestep other people’s AIs, things like a newsletter, or a blog, right, the way people subscribe to you directly, a text messaging system, a Discord server where people again can connect to you directly without somebody else’s AI in the way.
The same is going to be true of search. As search consumes more and more clicks, we are going to have to take other measures to still attract traffic to our sites. We are going to have to market in some ways like search engines don’t exist. They can take care of the answering the generic questions and we will be the ones who will satisfy intent-based questions like “Who’s a good agency for this?”
So yes, zero click answers are the future. The future is now and it’s only going to get worse for SEO folks.
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In today’s episode, Patrick asks, “Do you have a strategy or advice for distinguishing between the actual uses and abilities of large language models versus overblown statements and empty hype?” I share two key recommendations for cutting through the noise: consider the expertise of the speaker, and test things out for yourself. Tune in to learn how hands-on experience is the best way to separate facts from fiction when it comes to AI capabilities.
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In today’s episode, Patrick asks, “Do you have a strategy or advice for distinguishing between the actual uses and abilities of large language models versus overblown statements and empty hype?”
Absolutely. There are two fundamental ways:
Number one, consider who’s speaking and what actual expertise they have to be speaking on the topic. Someone who is talking a lot about anything, any topic, but is not doing a lot, is not showing their work, may tend more towards the empty statements or the empty hype side of things. That’s not entirely true. It’s not, you know, a guarantee. But generally speaking, the more someone is doing the work, they’re getting their hands into the technology, they’re building stuff, they’re showing what they’ve built, even if it’s bad, even if it doesn’t work, they’re still doing the work. They’re still understanding what the true capabilities of these devices are. Versus someone who’s not doing the work is speculating like, “Oh, this looks like this could do this.” Well, certainly, there are enough people in the world who have a lot of life experience, they could probably make some very educated guesses about what’s going on. But there still is no substitute for doing the work, right.
So that’s my first thing – consider who’s this coming from?
Second suggestion I have is, unsurprisingly, what work are you doing? How are you using these tools? What capabilities have you personally unearthed for yourself, even if it’s a well known capability? There is a difference between reading about something and doing something, right? I can read book after book after book on how to run a 5k race. But if I don’t actually put my feet on the pavement, all I’ve got is theory, all I’ve got is secondhand experience, right? I’ve gotten hand me downs of someone else’s experiences.
Anytime you need to cut through hype, you need to cut through noise. What experience can you bring to the table? What experience can you say, “Hey, I’ve tried this thing and you know, here’s how it works. Can someone help me improve this?” When you do that, especially as you get more and more sophisticated, you will very quickly see who’s the real deal. And who’s just a lot of noise, right?
If I show off a model that I fine tuned, and I say, “Hey, I’m getting some real weird results once I go to five bit quantization.” The people who are actual experts will go, “Oh, well, you know, what you did is you forgot to do x step.” And at that point, I’ll know all right, I messed up. But I will also know who spoke up. And I will take special note of who did not speak up, right? If I push out something on LinkedIn, and maybe I tag five or 10 people that I think are AI experts, and that I have some kind of personal relationship with, and say “What am I doing wrong here? I’ve got the five bit quantization model for this thing. And I wanted to improve the accuracy. What am I doing wrong?” If there’s one person who goes, “Oh, well, you need to start with the floating point 16 model and quantize it this way,” that person is an expert, or at least knows enough to know what I’m doing wrong.
And this applies for every level of skill, not just experts. If you ask a question that seems like a basic question, but it’s a good question, a question that maybe you can’t find an easy answer for, you can test out the knowledge of the people that you see talking about this stuff and say, “Yeah, that person gave me a nonsensical answer or gave me an answer filled with platitudes and hype, and not useful information.” And useful information is where you distinguish those actual use cases and real abilities of language models, and not hype.
There are, as you point out, a lot of people making big statements about these things, “Oh, it’s going to destroy the world,” right? It’s not going to destroy the world. People will destroy the world, not machines. When you spend more and more time with the technology, you get to know it better, you get to understand it better, you get to see what it’s capable of. And if you spend enough time with any technology, you quickly understand what it can’t do. Like it can’t do this, it can’t do mathematics, it can’t reason around this thing, it can’t do this type of logic.
And as you dig deeper and deeper into the technology, you will see more and more, “Okay, here’s what the real deal is.” Some of this is about proving it to yourself, to make it work for yourself. And if you can do that, you will very quickly find it’s easy to sort out who else is talking in a hype-filled way versus who else is talking about what’s real.
So that would be my suggestion:
One, be careful of your sources, look for sources who are talking about actual work and the things that they themselves are doing.
And two, do the actual work yourself at whatever skill level you’re at, to better understand the capabilities. And I can’t emphasize that last part enough. You do not need to be an expert to use these tools, particularly a lot of the web-based services like ChatGPT. You do not need to be an expert. You have to be curious, you have to be persistent, you have to be motivated, but you do not need to be an expert. You will become an expert, or at least competent, relatively quickly if you read and research and then you test, test, test.
I read somebody said on Twitter, “Try this.” Try it and see if that worked. Or I read on LinkedIn, somebody said to try this. Oh, look, that works. You will build up those capabilities. And then you will be someone that people will go to, to say, “I need help distinguishing what’s real and what’s not.”
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Let’s talk about all that happened at MAICON, the Marketing AI Conference, all the takeaways, all the fun stuff that made it a really, really just an incredible conference.
One of the people that was new to me was Professor Ethan Mollick from the Wharton Business School who talked a ton about what’s happening in AI. His talk was fascinating. He was the closing day one closing keynote. Now he was talking about how AI was disrupting everything. And one thing he mentioned was that he didn’t really understand and I think this is a valid statement. He didn’t really understand that the strategy that the big tech companies were taking with regards to how they were rolling out AI models, it doesn’t seem to make any commercial sense. And in a lot of ways, it doesn’t. But then he said something very interesting. He said, it seems that they are all in a race of almost religious zeal to be the first company to create an artificial general super intelligence, or in his words, they want, you know, name the tech company or choice, they want to be the first company to invent God.
This brings to mind the quote from Jurassic Park from Jeff Goldblum’s character- “your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they never stopped to think about whether they should”. I think that falls squarely in that category.
The other thing he was saying was, he views the way that models are being released to the public as very irresponsible, handing out just these incredibly powerful models for free. There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of strategy to it in terms of like, how is this? How is this useful to people? What are the same one thing about the dangers of it? He especially pointed towards Meta’s LLaMa 2 and said, This seems strange. And I had four thoughts on that topic for reasons why Meta might have done such a thing.
The first reason is releasing a model as open source, it really hobbles regulation. When there are just a few companies, Microsoft, Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, when there’s just a few companies publishing these big models, it’s pretty easy to regulate them. It’s pretty easy to say like, Oh, you know, your AI service should be able to do this and not that. That can be problematic, right? You don’t want too much power, or too much capability in just a few companies because that can of course be regulated, it can be censored even meta giving away their model. Basically just through the ingredients for the any AI any generative AI, that’s a large language model out into the world and said, Here you go. Everyone have fun. And everyone have fun also means that you can’t really regulate that anymore. Because now these pieces of software are running on gaming laptops, you can’t regulate that you can’t control what people are going to do with that. And to some degree, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Because again, too much power concentrated in too few hands is not really optimal. So that’s the first part.
The second thing that I thought of is Meta’s done this to take a baseball bat to the knees of its big tech competitors, particularly Google, but even OpenAI to some degree. Anyone who has sufficient computing power like a gaming laptop can start building apps building companies building whatever they want, rebuilding these models tuning them. And in doing so it effectively hobbles other tech companies from consolidating their power right so open AI might have the best model for now the GPT four model. But now anyone can with a gaming laptop can run the LLaMa 2 model and not pay OpenAI right so it’s kind of an anti competitive move which I thought was very interesting.
Third, if you think about it, Meta basically gets free tech support, right? If you release a model to the world, thousands of developers are going to beat this thing up and find all the bugs find all the issues find all the the ways that the model can be misused. And let their fellow developers and Meta know Hey, this is how the model is kind of broken. that it gets to see how its models succeed or fail at a massive scale much larger than they could do themselves. And in doing so, find all the vulnerabilities or learn how to make models better without having to pay for it, right? They didn’t have to pay these thousands of developers and people like you and I to test these things out.
And fourth, Meta basically gets free R&D, right? Every developer who takes one of these things and builds a new model emerge from it or a new ecosystem to use the model like cobalt or silly tavern. All those improvements are open source under the same license typically. And so Meta can look around say, Hey, this model, they’re doing this with this model. That’s cool. That’s cool. That’s cool. And now they’ve got the R&D essentially of a much larger company without having to invest a huge number of resources on it because the open source communities is building all these these add ons for them. And so it’s a very clever move to take a very powerful model and throw it out to the world.
Second talk that I have a lot of thoughts about, I saw Chief Decision Scientist at Google, Cassie Kozyrkov, who delivered the day two opening keynote, I got a chance to very, very, very briefly just shake her hand, say hi. I’ve followed her work for years, and she’s absolutely brilliant at what she does.
She said a couple things that stood out to me. Now her talk was mostly about whose jobs AI will take and you know, she’s had the same general line that everyone in the industry has had for years, which is AI takes tasks, not jobs. But she said something very interesting. She said, if you find it’s easier to do a task, then explain that that is a task that is ripe for AI, because the instructions are too complex for you to articulate, but it’s good. It’s should be trivial to for you to make examples that AI can learn from.
She also said AI won’t take entire jobs because humans still need to do the thinking but AI does the doing humans do the thinking AI does the doing. And so this was sort of meant as a way to say, don’t worry, you know, as not going to take your jobs.
That is not my take on it. And the reason that is not my take on it is how much of your job is thinking and how much of your job is doing. I know in my own job. 80% my job is doing right doing the work making the the software go writing the reports talking to the clients, the doing of the work, not the ideation.
There are I think, McKinsey or somebody said there are 130 million knowledge workers in the US. And their estimates that AI will impact in some way dramatically 100 million of them. Right? If we if we go by what Cassie said that AI is not going to touch the thinking is only going to replace the doing that still 80% of the workforce, or at least 80% of the tasks for that workforce that they won’t be doing anymore in some capacity. Now, they might be supervising the AI, they might be pushing the go button to make it go. But they’re not necessarily going to be doing the doing part. And that is a problem. Right? That is a problem. Because when you have machines that are doing most of the doing work, people aren’t doing that work. And that that to me can be I think very challenging.
The third talk, Jim Sterne gave a great talk on prompt generation 101. The one analogy I liked in there is there are these technical parameters that you can set when you’re using language models like temperature, top P, top K, etc. And I liked his analogy, he said, the temperature setting, which is how creative a prompt will be really should just be called the number of drinks setting, right? And you scale from zero to a lot. And the more the more drinks you give it, the more creative it gets. I thought that was a really clever way of explaining that. So I will probably be using that analogy in the future.
And then the fourth person that I talked to and listened to was Olivia Gambelin, who is an AI ethicist. She had one quote that was hilariously funny, which was compliance – when you’re compliant with regulation basically means you just one step above illegal, right? This is the very bare minimum you can do.
We had a very good discussion about how fairness in AI is challenging because there are two fundamental types of fairness, right? There’s equality of opportunity, which means that everybody starts the race at the same starting line. And then you succeed in the race on your merits on how fast you can run. There’s also equality of outcome where it doesn’t matter where you start the race or how soon or how late you start, everyone should arrive at the finish line at the same time.
And so there are cases where equality of opportunity is important, right? You want people to succeed on their own merits in in a business. There are cases where you want equality of outcome where you want to, to ensure that everyone gets the same treatment, right? customer service, you call into a customer service line, and you should get the same treatment as the next customer where you should not be how good a customer you are should be no everybody gets the same treatment.
But we had an interesting twist in this conversation about how different cultures might implement these. There is the idea of of individuality, individualistic societies, the United States of America, for example, is a super hyper individualistic society. far anomaly. And then there are collectivist society societies where people put the good of the whole above the good of the individual, you see this very prominently in Far East Asian societies like Japan and Korea and China.
And we were wondering, and this is something that’s sort of an open question is, do collectivist societies focus on equality of outcome more than equality of opportunity? And I think the answer there to some degree is yes. When you look at even Scandinavian countries, the countries that have much higher taxes, but provide much more social goods, again, equality of opportunity, having fewer people sleeping, you know, homeless in the streets is a higher priority than equality of opportunity, right? The equality of outcome is no more homeless in the streets. The equality of opportunity would mean Yeah, we’re we’re okay with homelessness, because we want everyone to succeed on their merits.
These questions are important because they govern how we use artificial intelligence, how we deploy it, how we manage it, how we govern it, how we control it, to the point where we want to ensure that artificial intelligence is working for us and not the other way around. And questions about fairness and equality are not a single one size fits all answer, right? It is. It’s case by case, and companies, people have to decide how they want fairness implemented in whatever situation you might be in.
So lots and lots of really cool takeaways from the event I gave my talk, which you can watch the top of the newsletter, I’ll put a link in this section as well. I would encourage you to enjoy the talk. It’s fresh. It’s not out of date yet, as far as I know. And, and see what you think of the takeaways and maybe if they might stir some thoughts of your own.
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In today’s episode, I explain how to capture someone’s unique writing style or speaking voice for AI tools. For writing, use neural style transfer on a diverse sample of their work. For voice, have them read varied scripts to capture tone and inflection. Tune in for specific tips on gathering the right training data to clone voices and writing styles with AI.
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In today’s episode, Briar asks, How do we program a voice of a CEO or expert we frequently write for? So that we can use their voice? Well, okay, so there’s, there’s a bit of ambiguity here. If you mean the speaking voice, that’s one avenue, if you mean just their writing style, that’s a different avenue.
So let’s tackle the writing style first. If you want to capture someone’s writing style, there are there’s a technique called neural style transfer. And essentially, using a tool like chat GPT, the paid version, or Anthropics, Claude to you would take a large sample of someone’s writing, ideally a diverse sample. So blog post, an article, some emails, maybe some social media comments, something that a body of work, and we’re talking probably a couple of pages, at least, of text that really encompasses how a person speaks their voice, if you will.
That then gets fed into one of these large language models with a neural style transfer prompt. And essentially, it’s, it’s pretty straightforward. It’s like you are a world class writing expert, you know, style transfer, writing styles, author voices, blah, blah, blah, all the keywords and phrases that would be associated with writing styles. You would say your first task is to do a detailed analysis of this person’s writing style in bullet point format, and it will generate a long list of these things. And then you would use that bullet point list, essentially as its own prompt to apply to the next piece of content you want to generate, you would say something along the lines of using this defined writing style, writing an article about x, y, or z. So that’s how you capture someone’s voice in text.
If you were talking about the actual cloning of someone’s voice, using a tool like voice gen tortoise or 11 labs, you need to start with good quality sampled audio, ideally something that’s made professionally with you know, a good microphone. You can use a smartphone as long as the environment in which you’re recording is pristine. The best place to do that if you don’t have access to an actual sound studio is if you know somebody who has a like a nice car, like Alexis or something where it’s it’s quiet inside. Make sure everything is off in the car. Obviously don’t do this in the middle summer will suffocate. You put the phone four to five inches from the person’s mouth turn on the voice memos app and you have them recite some scripts.
And the scripts that you want to have them recite. This is one of the catches with voice transfer should not be business content should not be a blog post because what you end up with when you have somebody reciting a blog post or business content, you get something that sounds like this. Trust insights will build a media model mix using stock performance data public relations campaigns and efforts organic search data public relations scenes outcomes. See what I mean? It’s very flat. There’s there’s not a lot of intonation. There’s not a lot of there’s not a lot of emphasis or variation.
So what should you use? Ask the person that you’re working with and this is something that you want to do in detail. Ask them for what their favorite TV show is and then go online, find a script from that episode of the episode that show and ask them to you have to do a little bit reading we want to ask them to read out some of their favorite shows script because it’s going to sound very different if they’re reading from something that’s a lot more dramatic, right?
You would see something like Yeah, I’ll read a segment here from a piece of fiction. You know, let me check the photon account. That doesn’t make any sense. She’s she’s calibrated the photonic gun to aim inward instead of down the test range. I don’t understand it’s like she’s holy shit, she’s gonna shoot it at herself.
You see how much more variance there is in the voice. That is the kind of sample that you want to use for any of these voice training tools because they are looking for variation. They’re looking for variants, they’re looking to learn as much as possible about your voice. And if you were just reading in a monotone or capturing the sound somebody’s voice in a monotone, it’s gonna be much harder for that software to capably generate good, varied audio.
If you have wildly varying audio, the tone and inflection things that really capture how a person really speaks, then you’re going to get a much better sample going to get much better output. And with a tool like for example, 11 labs, they’ll ask you for 10 different sound samples of varying lengths, you know, 30 seconds, a minute, two minutes, but it’s not how long or how much data you provide, it’s how diverse the data set is you want that variance.
So that’s my suggestion. Another way to do it would be to have them maybe recite as as prose recite as poetry, some of their favorite song links not to sing it, because you don’t want the musical intonation, but to read out some of their favorite song links, because you’ll still get some of that rhythm, you’ll still get some of that variation that variance in their voice that will capture the essence of their voice.
So that’s how you would do that. How you would you follow the steps in the software of your choice. But that’s how you do the sound samples so that you get good quality. Now, if the person that you’re working with has a body of public record already, you know, someone who’s an actor, someone who has been on a lot of podcasts, someone who does earnings calls, things you can go through those archives manually, and identify segments and snippets like, you know, this one time Bob was really yelling at that analyst on that call, okay, great, let’s take that segment, slice it down to 30 seconds or a minute or whatever the software requires, then you can put that in the training library for the way that these tools will memorize information.
But the key is that variance in tonality, and the way they speak in their actual voice. So those are my suggestions if you want to do a really good job with the actual voice and for capturing someone’s writing style. It’s a really good question. This kind of training data, gathering it polishing it is going to be really important in the next couple of years, right? The big challenge of AI is not the AI systems is having the data needed to generate good results.
So the sooner you get good at doing stuff like this, the easier it’s going to be for you. Thanks for the question and talk to you soon. If you’d like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
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In today’s episode, I tackle the tricky issue of AI-generated content and copyright. Under current US law, copyright can only be held by humans, not machines. But there are nuances around prompts, outlines, and final products – hire a lawyer if you have concerns! Tune in for a full breakdown of using AI content legally and ethically.
You Ask, I Answer: AI-Generated Text and Copyright?
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In today’s episode, Alexandra s can you explain the copyright issue when it comes to AI generating content? Can I use the text to generates for an email or not? What about programs like Jasper campaigns that generate social media posts that are doing the same? Okay. Let’s talk about copyright.
I am not a lawyer. I am not a lawyer. I cannot give legal advice. To get legal advice, you need to contact and work with an actual lawyer for your specific situation. I recommend my friend Ruth Carter. They have a law firm, geek law firm.com. They can give legal advice. I cannot. So as long as we’re clear about that.
In the USA and most places now, but especially specifically in the USA, which is where I’m based. Under US copyright law, copyright can only be held by humans. There’s a famous case in a road over a slater from 2018, in which a chimpanzee took a selfie with a camera. And after a number of lawsuits and court cases, the US Copyright Office and the courts ruled the chimpanzee is not human, human can hold copyright. Other entities cannot.
Therefore, if a machine generates something, that thing cannot be copyrighted. There is no copyright applicable, even if it’s coming from a machine that you own. Even if it’s coming from a service you pay for, it cannot legally be copyrighted. And it doesn’t matter what the terms of service on the software say, because there’s a lot of different companies have all these disclaimers and things in their legal statements.
The law is as of 2023 in the USA. Machines cannot hold copyright, which means that if you generate text for an email, yeah, absolutely. You can use it, right? Anyone can use it. Copyright means that only a certain authorized party is allowed to use something without negotiation or compensation, right?
If this book here, the author is Daniel Goldman, this is his intellectual property, I cannot remove you know, scratch out Daniel Goldman, put Christopher Penn on here, I cannot do that because he owns this work. He’s a human, he owns this work. It is his copyright. I can still use this book, I can still read this book. I can even summarize this book. Legally, I just cannot claim it is mine, right? Because that’s stealing.
When a machine creates something, because it’s not human. The moment it creates something, it is public domain, anyone can use it. So right, having a machine summarize your last staff meeting, great, you can use that you can use that all as much as one, you can’t claim ownership of it. Right.
So if you publish a blog post that you know, chat GPT wrote, you can push that on your blog, you can you can have it out there. If someone else copies it, you can’t sue them for copyright infringement because you do not own it. You there is no owner of that intellectual property because it was made by machine. And therefore, if somebody else copies and paste your blog that you made with the machine, you have no legal recourse. You can’t do anything about it.
Now, this is where we start to get into splitting hairs because there are different situations. Here’s two situations I’ll give you one, you write a very detailed prompt and chat GPT will use that as the example chat GPT spits out a blog post. The blog post cannot be copyrighted because it was made by machine. You can copy right your prompt. Because you wrote that you as a human wrote that but you cannot copy right the output from machine.
Flip that around. chat GPT gives you a detailed outline for blog post and you write the blog post, you can copyright that as long as you do the writing the final product is made by your fingers or voice or whatever. You can copyright that because you did the work even if the ideas came from a machine because ideas can’t be copyrighted. The work itself can be copyrighted.
So you can use anything from any machine if you know that it came from a machine, whether it’s chat GPT or Jasper or write.ai or whatever service go Charlie doesn’t matter. You can use it. But you cannot copyright it and no one can copyright it because machines cannot hold copyright at least in the USA.
Now this area of law is evolving for obvious reasons. So if you have concerns if you want to talk through well how should we approach this? How do we protect our intellectual property rights? hire a lawyer, hire my friend Ruth, but hire a qualified attorney to guide you through the process so that you know what to do and what not to do.
So that’s the answer to your question. Hope it was helpful. Thanks for tuning in and I’ll talk to you next time. If you’d like this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
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