Xiaoli asks, “If something is done by AI, can a company still claim that the output belongs to them?”
In this episode, I address a question about whether a company can claim ownership of content generated by AI. From a legal standpoint, according to the US Copyright Office, content created by machines is ineligible for copyright as it is not made by humans. However, practically speaking, it depends on the tools and models used in the creation process. There are detection tools available to refute a claim if the content was copy-pasted from a machine-generated source. Still, if the content was originated by AI but written by a human, it’s difficult for the tool to pick that up. Moreover, if a company is using a fine-tuned model customized for them, detecting it’s going to be almost impossible because the model sounds a lot like the company’s voice. Although taking a company to court to prove that they are claiming ownership of AI-generated content might be very expensive and not worth it. So, yes, a company can claim ownership of AI-generated content, but whether it’s true or not is debatable.
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You Ask, I Answer: Company Claims of AI Generated Content?
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode jaldi asks, if something is done by AI? Can a company still claim that the output belongs to them? So this is a question of practicality.
Legally, and fair warning, I’m not a lawyer, my friend Ruth Carter, who runs geek law firm.com is a lawyer that specializes in AI.
Legally, according to the US Copyright Office, content created by machine is ineligible for copyright.
It may not be copyrighted, because a human did not make it.
Now, from a practical perspective, Could you demonstrate, you know, in a court of law, that a company used a machine to generate content? It depends, it depends on on the tools available and what model was used to make it.
For example, if a company had someone, say a junior person, just copy and paste something straight out of ChatGPT.
Yeah, a good number of detection tools exist that you could refute a claim that a company is saying that this content is theirs by saying no, that’s pretty clearly machine generated.
If on the other hand, though, the content was originated by AI, but a human being wrote it, it’d be very hard for that tool to pick that up, even though it was created by artificial intelligence.
So it depends on how AI is involved in the creation process.
It also depends on the model being used.
Again, if you’re using the stock off the shelf, ChatGPT instance uses GPT-3 point five or GPT-4 point oh, there are predictable statistical distributions.
And the way it writes that make it easy to detect, right, there’s just a function of how the model is trained and how it works.
If you use a different model, say you use stable LM, or llama, or alpaca or if Hakuna or any of the open source models, a lot of the tools that have been built to detect the use of AI will not work nearly as well on those models.
And again, these are just the off the shelf vanilla models that you get when you download these pieces of software.
If a company is using a fine tuned model that’s customized for them, detecting that it’s going to be almost impossible if the model was trained well detecting is gonna be almost impossible because a fine tuned model, right, so much like the source material, because it’s been told to bias itself at its output based on the source material.
So if you’re, if your company has a brand style guide, and a couple of 100 blog posts, that are of a consistent voice, when that gets turned into a fine tuning regimen for a large language model, the model is going to adapt and sound a lot like you a lot like you.
And as a result, a company might be able to claim Well, yeah, that we wrote this, whether they did or not, whether they use machines or not, they could make that claim.
And because the existing tools to prove to disprove that claim would fail, it will be very challenging for someone other than a company insider to say no to a machine made that not not a human.
And then there’s again, the practicality side of it.
If a company uses a tool like ChatGPT, to put up say a blog post to an e book or something.
And they claim that the output is theirs, even though it’s machine made a who is going to go through the expense of taking them to court to prove that.
And b What’s the value in doing that? What is the value to a competitor may be doing that, chances are a lot of the time it’s just not going to be worth it.
Right.
The only cases I can think of where you’d want to really throw down is if you had an axe to grind with that company.
Or if there were it was part of a much bigger set of issues that you are taking them to court for anyway.
That’s the trick with all anything legal in order for there to be enforcement.
In order for something to have legal standing, you got to go to court, and that costs a lot of money.
Lawyers are not cheap, understandably so.
And is it worth it? Is it worth it to take a company to court because you think they’re their most recent set of blog posts were AI generated? Probably not.
It’s probably not worth the time and effort unless you have an axe to grind and you want to drag them through court just to cost them a whole bunch of money.
In that case, it might be worth it.
I don’t know.
So, to answer the question, yes, a company can claim something.
Whether it’s true or not, is debatable.
But proving that could be very expensive.
So I suspect in a lot of cases for especially for low risk stuff like marketing content, people probably aren’t going to bother.
We we would all settle for market Be content that doesn’t suck but that’s the answer thanks for the question and talk to you soon if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button
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Karolina asks, “What in your opinion should be done for generative AI not to go too far? how can we take benefits but within control?”
In this video, I discuss the topic of regulating generative AI, which is a challenging issue. We can’t turn off the technology, nor can we regulate it through a central authority because of the proliferation of freely downloadable open source models. Instead, we need to focus on regulating outcomes and enforcing existing laws to penalize people who misuse AI for illegal activities. For example, we could add extra punishment for crimes committed using AI. Overall, it’s a heavy topic that needs careful consideration, and I believe that regulating the technology itself may not be effective. If you want to know more, watch the full video and hit that subscribe button if you like it.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode, Karolina asks, What in your opinion should be done for generative AI not to go too far, how can we take benefits but within control? It depends on what you mean by control.
Right? If you mean the ability to turn these things off, to stop use them, we’re past that point, if you mean the ability to regulate them, through a central authority, like a company like open AI, we’re past that point too, because there’s now a wave of freely downloadable open source models that are very high quality.
I talked about this in a recent episode of my newsletter, based on Facebook’s llama or stable LM open source models that are in the wild that you can download and put on your computer today.
And no one can control that system.
Right? No one can control you having that software or not.
So that’s largely moot.
The reality is that large language models are here to stay.
And that the technology itself really can’t be regulated.
Because it’s now so open, you can download one of the base models, and then fine tune it, train it to do whatever you want it to do.
You could train it to only do clam chowder recipes, right? You could train it to spew hate, you could train it to create propaganda and misinformation.
And because these models all are small enough, and today’s personal computers, your gaming laptop is powerful enough to do that fine tuning, there really is no way to regulate that right? Any more than you can regulate how someone’s going to use a chainsaw, right? Yeah, you can put safety warnings all over it, and stuff.
But if somebody wants to go off Friday, the 13th on on somebody else with a chainsaw.
There’s not really anything that a chainsaw maker can do to stop somebody from doing that.
Right.
So what do we do? What we do is we look at the outcomes, and we regulate the outcomes.
For example, in the USA, which is where I’m based, we have laws that add essentially more penalties onto a crime if that crime was done within a certain context.
For example, we have a category called hate crimes where if you commit a crime, there’s a sort of base level of punishment for that.
And then if it can be proven in a court of law, that it was a hate crime that you did that crime because of the person’s race, or sexual orientation, or veteran status or disability, you get extra punishment, you get extra punishment, on top of the punishment you’ve already gotten.
And so having laws that would essentially restrict what people do with these models, would be the way to go.
And we’re not talking about saying you can’t write certain things, whatever we’re talking about, essentially things that are already against the law, just in a enforcing those laws, which is a whole separate conversation, and be maybe adding an extra bonus penalty for if you use machines to do it, perhaps at scale.
So for example, fraud is illegal.
scamming somebody out of money, illegal, if you used, say, a machine to synthesize someone’s voice to create a fake ransom call.
That’s still illegal.
This is more illegal.
And so you could add a penalty saying if you if you misuse technology, in addition to the 25 years of jail time, you’re going to get for fraud for in this case, I’m just making up these numbers.
You would then say, and we’re going to add an extra 10 on 10 years of penalty on to this because you use AI to do it.
Right? So it’s kind of like, well, I mean, there are there are many different laws that have multipliers or variables that change the severity of the punishment.
If we want AI to succeed, if we want AI to be useful, when we want people to not abuse it, we have to a enforce the laws we already have, which is always a always a treat, and do so in a in a coherent, consistent way.
Meaning that some people don’t get a pass because of their background or who they know or how much they bribe the judge and be considering multipliers on existing laws to say like, yeah, use AI to do this, the crime is worse, right? We consider the crime to be worse, therefore the punishment is worse.
That’s what we can do.
Because we cannot control the mechanisms of self any more than you could control spreadsheets.
Right? If you think about if you use a spreadsheet to commit a crime, you can’t just turn off spreadsheets.
It’s impossible, right? You there’s just no way for you to stop people from using spreadsheets.
There’s open source ones is Google Sheets is Microsoft Excel.
And yeah, Microsoft could maybe turn off your specific copy of Excel, if they had the license information, but it just download, download OpenOffice, or Libre Office Online free runs on your computer very capable.
And now the person’s got a spreadsheet.
And if you didn’t want them to have a spreadsheet, you’re kind of out of luck.
But you can say, yeah, if you use the spreadsheet to commit this crime, we’re going to add an extra five years of penalty, you know, or whatever the however the legal system works in that country.
That’s essentially where we are today, with large language models with generative AI, in general, is saying, yeah, the tools are out there.
Now we got to regulate how people use them in and make clear there are criminal penalties for misusing them.
Not the general misuse of them.
But if you’re committing a crime, if you just use AI for it, we’re just going to make the penalty worse.
So that’s it.
It’s a heavy topic to talk about.
And it’s one that I feel like a lot of governments, a lot of legislators a lot of elected officials do not understand.
And they will propose legislation that is impossible to enforce.
And so, like many other things, they’ve tried to legislate and very difficult to enforce.
Regulation of this technology itself probably is not going to be super successful.
Anyway, that’s the answer, or at least that’s my answer to the question.
Thanks for asking.
I will talk to you soon.
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Omar asks, “Is there a limit to the capability of large language models?”
In this video, I answer Omar’s question about the limitations of large language models. While there are certainly limitations to any technology, the limitations of large language models occur in a few different areas. One limitation is in the training data used to build the model or fine-tune it. Closed source models may also impose limitations on what they can do. Another limitation is in the quality of the prompt that the user provides, as less skilled users may get lower quality results. Lastly, large language models still struggle with reasoning and abstract thinking. It’s important to know the limitations of the specific model being used and to work around them to succeed in the use of large language models.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode, Omar asks, is there a limit to the capability of large language models? Well, yes, of course, there’s there’s limitations to any kind of technology.
The limitations occur in a couple of different places.
So the first place, a limitation occurs on a large language model really is on the training data on how the model was made, what content was used to build that model or fine tune it.
And depending on whose model you’re using, this might not even be clear, right? When you look at something like stable LM stable LM uses the pile, which is a data repository created by the Ulithi AI.
And so it’s pretty clear what’s in the pile and what’s not.
So if there’s content that you’re creating that was not in the pile, the model is gonna have a harder time generating that.
Other models, like, for example, the GPT family from OpenAI.
We don’t know what’s in there.
We don’t know what’s in there.
So we don’t really know what his limitations are, we do know there are certain prompts that work better and worse.
And that’s likely reflected in the fact that the content that’s in there is kind of a mishmash, we don’t really know for sure, what it does and does not know.
So that’s one aspect of limitations.
The second set of limitations are actively imposed limitations, there are limitations that model makers, particularly closed source models, put on their models so that they can’t do certain things.
If you were to ask, OpenAI how to in the ChatGPT interface, how to make a certain type of homemade chemistry experiment that you under no circumstances should do at home, you will say, Hey, I can’t do that, right? Even things that seem innocuous, like saying, hey, I need to, I’m getting ready to do a roast for my friend’s thing or a bachelorette party.
I need you to write 20 insults about my friend and lets the software say nope, you we can’t do that that’s not respectful.
We should always treat people with respect and kindness.
Well, yes, that’s true in the abstract, but in reality, I’m trying to have some light hearted fun, I’m going to friend’s bachelorette party and the software is not helping.
So those that’s an example of a imposed limit on the systems and there are many.
And, again, with closed source models, in particular, we don’t know what those limitations are, until we hit them until we run face first into them.
The third place that has limitations is us, the people, the operators, right.
So the models are very capable, us less.
So the quality of your prompt matters a great deal for being able to determine what output you get, whether the output is any good, whether it’s usable or not.
And people who are less skilled at writing prompts are going to get lower quality results.
So it’s not necessarily the model this capability is limited is the person’s capability to get useful information out of a model.
That is that can be challenging.
And finally, of course, there’s the the inherent technical limitations of the models.
Today, large language models still struggle with reasoning they still struggle with, with true logic.
Everything that they do is probability based, which means that abstract thinking and abstract reasoning is just not in the cards because by definition that goes against probabilities, right? If you ask somebody to create something that’s never been seen before, the way a human does that is going to be very different than the way a machine does that now machines will probably not do that nearly as well, because they still need to draw upon knowledge of what has gone previously, instead of being able to create something that is truly net new.
That’s a limitation of the fact that that’s how artificial intelligence models work.
So there’s a lot of different limitations on these models.
And the limitations vary from model to model.
Stable LM has fewer limitations than GPT-4.
Llama, the there wasn’t snoot.
snoozy, the 13 billion llama derivative that has fewer limitations and stable LM.
So there’s a lot of these different models that are out there that have greater or fewer restrictions based on their architecture, how they were made, the types of prompts they need.
So there’s, it really depends, it depends on the model, we used to be sort of a one trick pony world, right? Everybody used ChatGPT, those days are gone.
Now.
It’s like saying this car is on the road, right? And you might some people might have a Ferrari, some people might have a Tesla, some people might have Hyundai.
And it varies, it’s gonna vary.
So there are limitations.
The limitations you should be concerned about are the ones that are inherent to the model that you’re using.
So getting to know the model that you’re using and being skilled at knowing what his limitations are, and working around them is really a critical skill to be able to succeed in the use of large language models.
Good question.
Thanks for asking.
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Manuel asks, “Hey Christopher, how do you think sales-roles will be affected by GPT models, especially after they are trained on lead gen and sales data?”
In this episode, I answer a question about how GPT models will affect sales roles, particularly after they are trained on lead generation and sales data. Large language models have some usefulness in any place in the sales process that uses language. The question is, which places are the ones that will have the biggest impact? One is administrative, where a large language model can interface in a sales CRM and update it using a voice interface. This will save salespeople a lot of time and make sales managers happy that they can get their people to update the CRM. Crafting content to sales prospects is another area where language models can be useful, particularly in finding language patterns and distributions that work best. Personality analysis is also essential, where a large language model can interpret language and see where people are, which is critical in the sales process. The short answer is that wherever language is used in the sales process, particularly in areas where salespeople have trouble, language models can help patch those areas faster and improve their baseline skills. There’s a tremendous benefit to be had in using these models, and sales teams can use their data to guide the use of these models and even customize them to their specific sales process.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode, Manuel asks, hey Christopher, how do you think sales roles will be affected by GPT? Models, especially after they are trained on lead generation and sales data? This is a good question.
This is a on the surface an easy question to answer.
Any place you use language, a large language model is going to have some usefulness any place in the sales process or the sales role that use language.
So where do you use language in sales? Pretty much everywhere, right? There’s emails, there’s pitches, there’s pitch decks, there’s sales collateral, the sales enablement tools, there’s putting notes in your CRM, there’s speaking the people on the phone, any place that use language is a place where a large language model can have some impact.
Now the question is, which places are the ones that you’re gonna get the biggest bang for your buck.
And there’s really a few different spots.
One is administrative.
I’m guilty of this.
I don’t like updating the sales CRM, my I, I do it because I have to.
But when I worked in sales, it was my least favorite part of the job administratively just boring to just go in and click on stuff, having a large language model interface in a sales CRM and just be able to say, hey, update this account, update TrustInsights.ai AI said the deal size to $50,000.
Next, check in will be two weeks from now.
They’re not ready to buy yet.
And then having the model interpret that and then update the CRM.
Huge, that’d be huge.
Some companies, Salesforce and Hubspot, they’re already doing integrations similar to that now they’re all very in alpha, right? They’re not ready for primetime yet, but they’re going that way.
Just that alone, is would be enough to to dramatically change the role of sales, tying it to a voice interface.
That would be a game changer, that would be a substantial competitive advantage for the to the first CRM that can do that.
Because if you’re gonna open up a memo on your phone and say, Oh, hey, I just met with Bob at Trust Insights.
And, yeah, it looks like they’re going to do they want to do something, but probably not till next quarter, and then have the model interpret that and update the CRM, that salesperson, you know, that could be driving from from appointment to appointment, they could be on the phone, they could be working from home, but boy, they could save a lot of time, a lot of time, by having natural language interfaces to their software, and sales managers would be like, this is fantastic, I can actually get my people to update the CRM now.
Right.
So that’s a big one.
The crafting of content to sales prospects, that’s again, a pretty easy one, particularly if there are there are language patterns and distributions that you understand, work and don’t work, right.
One of the things that people have tried for years and relatively little success, is to understand if certain language works better in in the sales process than others, right, we have a star salesperson is does the language they use matter? And could other people use that language and get some success out of it.
And up until now, the tools didn’t really exist for you to be able to do that kind of large scale analysis, but now they do.
And so you might be able to come up with a writing style that resonates with people.
One thing that I think it’d be particularly interesting to see is people creating language model interfaces that can interpret someone else’s writing style and help you write similar to them, because we all love hearing ourselves, right? I mean, yes, there are exceptions.
But generally speaking, we feel more comfortable with people who sound like us, right? Who think like us, that’s just human nature.
And so if a tool can take an email from a one kind of personality and transmute it to another personality type, it might be better received, particularly in early communications.
That might be a way to approach it.
You could also do the personality analysis directly on the prospect as you get communications from them, feed it to a large language model and say, Hey, analyze this person’s personality.
Tell me about their extraversion.
Tell me about their openness, and so on and so forth.
And that personality analysis might be useful to you as a salesperson to say, Okay, here’s how maybe I want to approach this person.
Maybe I don’t want to go in all guns blazing, say, hey, if I got a deal for you, when that person from personality perspective, might not resonate with that, you might solve something more tentative, like so tell me what’s going on.
What are what are the things that are frustrating you right now, right? There are some people who resonate with that first pitch.
There are some people who will resonate with that second pitch other people like You don’t my therapists just sell me the things I can get on with my day.
So having large language models that can interpret language and see where people are, is going to be critical.
All of this stuff is based on language.
It’s on how we use language.
So the short answer to Manuel’s question really is wherever it is used language in the sales process, particularly if there are spots that you personally have trouble, that you’re not as strong in the sales process.
That’s where language models will help.
And I think it will help salespeople who are deficient in some areas, patch those areas faster, and get up to speed faster, so that they’re their baseline skills are improved.
And I think that’s there’s a tremendous benefit to be had there.
But yeah, the the data that sales teams have, can be used to really guide the use of these models, and even customize them, you can customize them to your specific sales process, maybe even your personal selling method.
So something to keep an eye on as as time goes on.
Thanks for the question.
Talk to you next time.
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Xiaoli asks, “How can people determine whether some content is created by AI or human?”
In this video, I answer a question from a viewer who wants to know how to determine whether content has been created by AI or by a human. While there are tools available online that can detect language patterns of generic models, their quality is hit or miss, and they are tuned for the OpenAI family of models. With the proliferation of different models and variations, it will become more difficult to detect AI-generated content. Even if you use these tools, the result is not going to be reliable because of the wide range of statistical distributions. In some cases, it depends on the process, where AI is involved in the content creation process but not in the final step, which is done by a human. The best way to know if content was created by a machine or a human is to ask. Having policies in place in your company about the use of AI in content creation is also essential. As AI models continue to evolve, the use of detection algorithms will become less and less useful. Thank you for watching, and if you found this video helpful, please hit that subscribe button.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode shall Lee asks how can people determine whether some content is created by AI or human? So this is a very popular question understandably so.
And there are some tools out there that can detect some of the language patterns have generic models.
So, for example, if you were to type into, you know, AI content detector into Google, you’ll get a whole bunch of different web services that will say like we can detect AI content and plagiarism, the all this that and other stuff.
And these tools do that to a, a greater or lesser degree of success.
The reason they can do that is because there are predictable statistical distributions in the way that large language models like the GPT family that ChatGPT uses, that are detectable that are, you can find in the generic models.
So the generic model means someone using just off the shelf ChatGPT with no customizations, no plugins, no anything, it’s just the stock base model.
And the prompt they’re putting it is so generic, that the model is essentially writing doing most of the heavy lifting.
It’s funny, these tools, these detection tools, they are iffy in their quality.
I took a blog post that Katie and I had written for the Trust Insights newsletter and I, I fed it in and there are sections that were clearly marked, this section has been generated by AI and this section is not.
And one of the tools missed everything, completely missed it.
One of the tools marked everything as AI, even the parts that we know were human written.
And then two of the tools kinda halfway winged it right some what are the tools? More or less got it? Okay.
But none of them got it right.
None of them work.
Got it perfectly right.
Nolan said, Yep, this is the AI part.
This is the non AI part.
And that’s a problem.
Right? So these tools do exist.
Their quality right now is hit or miss.
And here’s the part that’s, that’s tricky.
They are tuned for the OpenAI family of models, so GPC 3.5 GPT-4.
With the release of Facebook’s llama large language models set into open source and the proliferation of dozens if not hundreds of variations.
These tools can’t do that anymore.
Maybe schools are incapable of detecting language created by different models have different model weights, different parameters, essentially all the different settings that these other tools use that will make their texts have statistically significant distributions but different distributions than OpenAI.
And so there really isn’t a way to ironclad detect the use of AI.
The other way that these tools will fall down is depends on the process.
So if you wrote an outline as your prompt, and you had ChatGPT Write out the post, there’s a decent chance that at least some of these tools would correctly identify it.
If you did it in reverse, you said OpenAI, you write the outline because I can’t think of what to write.
And once I have my prompts as a writer, I’ll do the writing.
These tools will not detect that usage of AI even though AI was involved in the content creation process.
The final step was done by human and those statistical distributions will not exist nearly as much or as strongly as a machine generated version.
So I would say the only surefire way to know whether content was created by machine or human is to ask if it’s if it’s content that you care about.
And if it’s your content, hopefully, you would know.
But if it’s content created by your company, having policies in place as to the situations in which AI is permissible to use or not permissible to use is, is critically important because these models will continue to evolve, right? Just the open source models alone are evolving so fast and getting such specific capabilities that the plagiarism detector does not plagiarism, the AI content generation detection algorithms are going to get less and less useful.
And here’s why.
If you take an open source model, and you tune it towards a very specific task, like just writing blog posts or just writing emails, what’s going to happen is those tools will have very different language distributions.
And so something looking for the generic model is not going to see that it will just miss it.
And, again, the fact that we see see so much innovation happening on the open source side means you’re gonna have dozens, if not hundreds of models to try and keep up with.
And you’re gonna as if you were marketing, you know, AI content detection software, you’re gonna have a real hard time doing that.
So that’s the answer.
The answer is there are tools, they’re unreliable, and they will continue to get to be unreliable, they’ll actually get less reliable over time as models proliferate.
The Good question though, thanks for asking.
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This week, let’s talk about what’s happening right now in generative AI, because it’s been a big week. Well, it’s been a big few weeks, so let’s go over what those developments mean. As you know, last fall, OpenAI released its language model interface, ChatGPT, that opened the door for non-technical users to be productive with large language models. The model – and remember in the context of AI, a model is just a fancy word for software – behind ChatGPT is a massive behemoth known originally as InstructGPT.
These models are large, very expensive to train, and costly to operate. For years, other developers and companies have tried making their own, but the costs of starting from scratch, assembling the massive quantities of data needed to train (build) a model, and deploying it are usually well out of reach of scrappy entrepreneurs. There have been many attempts and starts over the years but none have been able to perform as well as the big money models that big tech companies created. Thus, for many companies and many people like you and me, ChatGPT has been the only serious game in town.
Until about a month ago. Facebook/Meta released their own model, LLaMa, but in a different way than the other tech companies. Rather than give away an interface like Bing or Bard or ChatGPT, they released the underlying model, LLaMa, itself as non-commercial open source software. LLaMa is the same high quality as the other big tech models, but it’s available to many more people for free. This is a big deal because Facebook basically took this gigantic model trained on a trillion words and just… gave it away.
That was the first pebble in the avalanche.
In AI, there’s a concept called fine-tuning, where you take an existing model and tailor it to your needs. Remember that these language models don’t contain actual words. They contain mathematical probabilities about words, like a giant library of statistics about what words are near other words, what phrases are near other phrases, etc. A big public general model like the ones from OpenAI are gargantuan because they have to be a jack of all trades, kind of like the family dog. Part companion, part retriever, part guard dog, and not overly specialized at any one thing. When we want a language model to do one thing very specifically, we change the probabilities in its library to overly favor one thing over anything else. That’s like training a dog to specifically be a bomb sniffing dog; the dog will not be good at sniffing for drugs or earthquake survivors, and probably won’t be as suited for other general dog tasks.
Fine-tuning a model isn’t nearly as costly as building the model in the first place. If entrepreneurs and engineers wanted a custom model for a specific task, it’s far easier to fine tune an existing model, as long as the source model is high enough quality. And that’s what LLaMa is – a very high quality starting point for a lot of innovation that Facebook released to the world. Think of LLaMa like this: let’s pretend that generative AI is like pizza. Up until now, you had to order pizza delivery from OpenAI, right? Through ChatGPT and their APIs, they were the only game in town. You might have thought about making your own pizza from scratch, but for a variety of reasons – time, money, talent – you just didn’t. Along comes Facebook and LLaMa, which is like one of those pre-baked pizza kits. Now all you have to do is customize the very nice pre-made pizza with the toppings you want, but you don’t have to go through all the work of making the pizza from scratch.
In the several weeks since LLaMa came out, we have seen a massive explosion of new derived models, models that are very high performance but scaled to run on hardware as small as a hobbyist’s Raspberry Pi. The tuning capabilities are robust; we see models tuned specifically for tasks like research, healthcare advice, finance, and more. That’s what an open source model enables – massive variation, massive diversity in the space.
There are even projects to put these models on your laptop as private chat instances, like the GPT4ALL software. This looks and runs like ChatGPT, but it’s a desktop app that doesn’t need an internet connection once it’s set up and, critically, it does not share data outside your individual computer, ensuring privacy. Up until now, services like ChatGPT have sent your data to a third party company for use, which is why we’ve said you should never, ever use them with sensitive information. Now, that’s no longer the case – you can use GPT4ALL in complete privacy. It’s the best of both worlds – the performance and capabilities of a service like ChatGPT with ironclad privacy because the data – your data – never leaves your computer. That makes it ideal for industries like finance, healthcare, government – any place where you wouldn’t just want to hand over protected information willy nilly.
This has made big waves in the tech community; a post recently by a Google employee has made waves by declaring that neither Google nor OpenAI are paying enough attention to open source, and the open source movement is racing past the big tech players with their closed models. I agree with the engineer’s assessment; open source is a powerful movement that democratizes technology and makes it accessible to almost anyone. There’s a reason Linux – the open source operating system – power a majority of the public internet servers. It’s better, faster, more secure when operated correctly, and near zero cost. The same is now happening in AI.
Why did Facebook do this? Why did they give away such a valuable piece of intellectual property? Because they’re behind. Their most recent efforts in AI have not gone well. So rather than try to do it themselves, they’ve simply done the hard grind of assembling the model and then tossed it to the community, to the world, to do with as we please – and already, coders and developers have taken their excellent base model and made insane improvements in a very short time. There are advancements that take Facebook’s base model and tune it for chat, tune it to be multiple times faster, tune it to run on nearly any device. The community, in effect, did all of Facebook’s R&D for free.
So that’s what’s happening. Let’s talk about what this means, for marketing and for society overall. First, let’s dig into the marketing side. Previously, to deploy a large language model in a marketing context like a chatbot on your website, you pretty much had to pay the OpenAI tax and use their APIs if you wanted high quality output. With the release of LLaMa and the crazy number of free, open source models (including some derivatives that are licensed for commercial use), that’s no longer the case. Now, if you have the technical team in place, you can use an open source model and save yourself a big bucket of money.
Anyone who’s marketing software? Building a large language model into your software just got a whole lot easier and more privacy-compliant, not to mention nearly free. Instead of having to wrestle with commercial licensing and privacy controls, you can now just stuff an open source model into your software and run it locally with no privacy issues. OpenAI API fees? Those just went to zero for software companies. That’s a big win for software companies – especially scrappy startups – and for us consumers who use those products.
For marketers who are just getting used to ChatGPT, this is also a boon. You can have a model that runs on your desktop or laptop computer and has 95% of the performance of ChatGPT with none of the privacy issues – and has a stable underlying model that your company can control. If you’ve ever used ChatGPT after they upgrade the underlying model, you’ve probably noticed that once-reliable prompts get wonky for a little while. This explosion of open source models means you can freeze which model you’re using until you and your organization are ready to upgrade. It’s under your control, which is a big deal.
For marketers who work in regulated industries or secure workplaces that have been forbidden to use ChatGPT, this is now an avenue for you to approach your IT department and explain how this open source movement will let you have the benefits without the risks.
For marketers who have access to technical resources that can fine-tune these open source models, that’s where you’re going to see massive benefit. These models are relatively straightforward to fine-tune. (not easy, but simple) It’s now even easier to customize them to your company, to your needs, to fulfill specific tasks that your team needs to work on. If you recall from the keynote address I’ve given, the more fine-tuned a model is, the shorter and less cumbersome your prompts have to be. You can imagine a set of different task-based models available to you in your job.
And for marketers who are late to the game with large language models, this is unfortunately going to muddy the waters some because each model itself is different – including what prompts do and don’t work with them. Vicuna-13B or LLaMa-30B can operate as powerfully as ChatGPT’s GPT-3.5-Turbo model, but they have a different prompt structure, so you’ll want to pick a platform and learn it before hopping from platform to platform. My recommendation would be for a marketer just getting started to start with ChatGPT for a few months and then move to GPT4ALL with the Snoozy 13B model, as it’s very capable.
Now, let’s talk about the big picture, because it’s worth a discussion. The LLaMa model is incredibly powerful, on par with the GPT models from OpenAI. There are versions that have no restrictions of any kind on them, versions you can ask nearly any kind of question and get a coherent answer, even if that answer is horrifying. Software is inherently amoral. It’s a tool, and thus how that tool is used depends on who’s using the tool. Here’s an example, redacted, about making something you really shouldn’t make at home:
OpenAI will tell you absolutely not, under no circumstances will it answer this question. An unrestricted model gives you an answer (though it’s just as likely to be incorrect as ChatGPT).
There will be misuses of these open source models, just as there are people who use open source website software like Apache to run websites filled with hate and bigotry. These tools will enable content creation of all kinds, good and bad, and we need to be prepared for what that looks like. Here in the USA, next year is a presidential election year and I have absolutely no doubt that hostile parties like Russia will attempt to interfere in our elections (as they have in the past) using tools like these to create massive amounts of disinformation, manipulating easily-persuaded people.
But that would have happened anyway. A hostile nation-state like Russia has the resources to build custom models from scratch. These models just make the process faster for everyone, good and bad alike.
And these models, particularly the unrestricted ones, do enable greater positive uses as well. There’s some content that closed models like ChatGPT flat out will not create, even though that content might have legitimate artistic value, like explicit literature, or controversial writing about sensitive topics. Do people who want to write about those sorts of things have the right to do so? Yes. Can they with the current closed source ecosystems? No. So these models will enable that as well.
What we should expect to see, what we are already seeing, is a massive explosion in the use of large language models. We should expect to see these models showing up everywhere, embedded in software we use all the time – now made free and more accessible. I believe that will overall be a net positive, even though they come with significant downsides you just can’t hand-wave away. Like the Internet itself, like the smartphone, like the personal computer, this new generation of AI models amplifies humanity. What’s good about us becomes better, what’s bad about us becomes worse.
No matter what, the reality is that large language models are now very definitely here to stay. A company like OpenAI could go out of business. Now that open source software exists that is rich, robust, and capable, all the big AI companies could vanish tomorrow but the technology is available in everyone’s hands.
Finally, this also has one other major effect. Open source software is nearly impossible to regulate because in many cases, there’s no central entity in charge of it that has the power to turn it off. The Apache Foundation has zero ability to turn off anyone who’s using their software as a webserver. Mozilla can’t turn off Mozilla browsers around the world. The Linux Foundation has no control over millions of servers and desktops running the Linux OS. That means any legislation, any governmental regulation of large language models will need to focus on the effects, on the outputs, on what people do with the tools because it’s no longer possible to regulate the tools themselves. It’s highly likely legislators and elected officials don’t understand this at all, and they will need to, very soon.
The tidal wave of generative AI has picked up pace. We can either surf it, or drown in it, but either way, there’s no stopping it.
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Debbie asks, “This is outside the realm of analytics, but would love to know your thoughts about Twitter? It’s been a valuable resource to keep up with journalists, source requests, etc., but now am feeling wary about it. Your thoughts? Recommendations on alternative platforms?”
In this video, I discuss the challenges of Twitter’s current management and how it is becoming less reliable, stable, and useful. Twitter has made some decisions that have fundamentally changed the character of the network. There are documented evidence and vulnerabilities that bad actors can take advantage of while the community tries to patch them. I highlight two issues: Twitter released its source code for its recommendation engine, and Russian hostile actors are actively trying to check in source code into Twitter’s recommendation algorithm to treat anything that’s Ukrainian as propaganda. Twitter is in an interesting place, and I recommend being cautious about it. However, there are plenty of other social networks, such as LinkedIn, Discord, and private social platforms that you can join or create if the community doesn’t exist. These private social platforms can be a real hub and resource center to your industry, and if you do so, it confers enormous benefits to your business or brand.
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In today’s episode, Debbie asks, this is outside the realm of analytics.
But we’d love to know your thoughts about Twitter.
It’s been a valuable resource to keep up with journalist source requests instead of but now feeling very wary about it your thoughts recommendations on alternative platforms? Oh, where should we begin on Twitter.
Twitter is becoming less and less reliable, less and less stable and less and less useful as its current management makes increasingly less thoughtful decisions.
That’s the way I would put it, were decisions that fundamentally changed the character of the network.
And I’ll highlight two things that I think are substantially problematic.
There’s a bunch of things that are problematic.
But they’re these two things.
There’s documented evidence that these are problematic.
And these are emblematic of the direction Twitter’s going that is, from my point of view, the wrong direction.
Point number one, Twitter released its source code on March 31.
On GitHub, for its recommendation engine.
And in general, open source, it’s a good thing for open source software to exist, it is generally a way to create high quality software, it’s generally a way to reduce vulnerabilities.
However, it’s a long process to get there, right Linux, the operating system was not created overnight.
Apache the Apache web server package was not created overnight, it took years for these packages to evolve, to close up vulnerabilities and to become the enterprise software they are today.
But in that time, there were a lot of challenges those software packages faced.
Twitter is in the same sort of boat right now where it has opened its source code.
But in doing so is opened up a number of vulnerabilities that bad actors can take advantage of while the community tries to patch them if they can be patched.
Bitdefender, the security company identified and even filed a critical vulnerability for Twitter’s recommendation engine as a whole, to say that the recommendation engine now the code is available, makes it trivial for a hostile actor to set up automated ways to essentially game the system to report accounts to get them kicked off the platform.
And it’s fully expected that hostile actors will be doing so in the near future.
And I forget what CVE number is we can look it up in the CVE database.
And you can go to bit defenders website to read the documentation of this.
And I wholeheartedly agree this is a pretty big problem that the community has not solved yet.
That vulnerability means that bad actors can take advantage of it and you know, silence critics, right.
And we’re not talking about massive, huge projects.
Thanks to tools like autonomous AI, you can have it spin up a couple of 1000 Twitter dummy Twitter accounts and bought somebody to death.
Figuratively, their account not not literally in relatively short order.
And you don’t need much more than a gaming laptop to do that.
We’re not talking about cloak and dagger, you know, huge rooms full of servers and stuff.
And the matrix like thing as it’s you can a kid with a laptop can do it.
And until the source code is closed up, that becomes a problem.
That’s That’s one example where Twitter that decision to open the source code in the long term is a good decision in the short term, particularly around things like elections, not so good.
Number two, if you look at the poll requests within the GitHub repository, for those who are unfamiliar, if you want to be able to participate in an open source project, you check out a portion of the code with what’s called a pull request.
You make edits to it, and you submit it back to the company.
And then somebody on that project, or consortium people approve or reject your proposed changes.
You can look right in the pull requests right on GitHub and see that hostile actors, Russian hostile actors are actively trying repeatedly to check in source code into Twitter’s recommendation algorithm that treats anything that’s Ukrainian as propaganda flags is propaganda tries to get rid of it.
So you have Russian about spies.
They’re just, I guess, hackers, for lack of better term, trying to intentionally corrupt Twitter source code for how it makes recommendations.
And this is at a decent scale.
Now, granted, a lot of the community is finding these things and saying no, but it doesn’t take a whole lot of imagination to look at it and go, Well, it seems like that’s the kind of thing where at some point someone’s going to get through, right? Yeah.
Not everyone has succeeded, only one person has to succeed, to fundamentally change that recommendation algorithm in, in a way that is harmful to society at large.
Right.
We generally agree most people who are not Russian or paid by Russians generally agree that Russia invading Ukraine is an unlawful act, right? It’s illegal.
It’s against the entire international community.
And it was just a bad thing.
Right? So Russia is attempting to control a social network, a public social network by corrupting the algorithm, also a bad thing.
And so I think it is right to be wary about Twitter, because what’s happening in these documented battles for how the source code works, is problematic, at least in the short term, at least in the next couple of years.
Over time, yeah, the community if source code remains open, the community may be able to close up some of these holes and improve the government governance.
But for right now, it’s not great.
It’s not great.
That combined with the whole blue checkmark, gold checkmark business, where businesses are being told to have a gold checkmark that is, verifies you, as an organization need to pay $1,000 a month.
I don’t see a whole lot of companies going yeah, let’s do that.
Particularly when the previous process was had more background checking, and not as much just forking over money.
Twitter’s in an interesting place.
We don’t know what’s going to happen with it.
We don’t know whether the current management is high as a kite and just making shit up and hoping something will stick or if there is an actual plan.
And from an outsider’s perspective, it doesn’t look like there’s a whole lot of a coherent plan other than trying to stop losing money.
But in the process of doing so Digiday had a piece recently, it was in the most recent newsletter talking about how advertisers have pulled back and now publishers are pulling back saying yeah, we don’t really want to be here, because there’s the verification system, we’re not going to pay you 1000 bucks a month to tell people that our articles legit, we’re just gonna go over to Instagram.
In terms of where to go elsewhere, there’s plenty of other social networks.
I dislike the Facebook family of companies, because Facebook has is ethically challenged as well.
But they do exist.
LinkedIn, I think LinkedIn is the last sane social network that’s being run by run by grownups.
And so I think, particularly for credible sources, it’s a good place to spend a lot of time I spend a lot of time and slack and Discord in different communities based on my interests.
And yeah, you still have to do critical thinking there, you still have to evaluate what people share.
And, you know, some people are dummies, and some people are not.
But I think those are places where if you’re looking at a specific topic, like you know, B2B marketing, or influencers or SAS software, or, you know, cloud computing, there’s probably a private social media community that has a really good fit for that, that you can join, and eventually become influential, perhaps, but certainly find good information that doesn’t have all the problems of a public social network, you know, so I would say, if I was if I was in your shoes, and you’re looking for resources to connect with, start looking at some of the private social platforms like Discord, find a Discord server in your area of focus.
And if there isn’t one, there is an opportunity for you to create it and be the source of record be the hub for your industry, particularly for folks who are in your industry who are under 35.
Because Discord attracts that crowd quite a bit and be a real hub, a resource center to your industry, you will find that it confers enormous benefits if you do so to your company, your business, your brand, etc, whether you’re a publisher, marketer, whatever, if the the community doesn’t exist, create it.
So really good question.
I am not optimistic on Twitter in the short term, I am cautiously optimistic on the long term, like a 10 year horizon if it survives, its current growing pains, but the short term Yeah, I’m not putting a whole lot of credence to things I find out there.
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Xiaoli asks, “will the GPT output result differ for different languages? for example, will the GPT result in English better than the result in Chinese?”
In this episode, I discuss whether the GPT output differs for different languages. The majority of machine learning is biased towards the English language, which has become the lingua franca of the modern technology world. Translation models and the GPT family of models do not do as great a job going from English to other languages as it does from other languages to English. It varies by language, and the smaller the language’s content footprint, the worse the models perform. However, over time, expect models specific to a language to get better as they ingest more content and understand more of what is published online. Watch the video to learn more about language biases in machine learning and artificial intelligence.
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In today’s episode Xiao Li asks, Will the GPT output differ for different languages? For example, will the GPT result in English be better than the resulting Chinese? Yep, the majority of machine learning a substantial amount of machine learning and artificial intelligence is very, very heavily biased towards the English language.
English has become sort of the ironically the lingua franca of the modern technology world, right? Where a lot of work is being done in English code is written and documented in English, many of the major open source projects are tend to be English first.
So it stands to reason that the amount of content online that was scraped to put together these models is biased towards English as well.
And we see this to be we know this to be true.
And you’ll look at translation models and how the GPT family of models translates.
It doesn’t do as great a job going from English to other languages as it does from other languages to English, test it out for yourself, find some friends who speak multiple languages, and do some bilateral testing have the GPT model translate something from another language into English and have it translate from English to another language and see which one comes up with a better output.
And it varies by language.
It is not consistent, right? It is not the same percentage of not as good with say like Chinese where there’s a ton of information as there is with language like Swahili, or Tibetan.
The smaller languages content footprint is the worst the models do add it.
Particularly when you look at stuff that is stored and things like academic papers, which is where a lot of more obscure languages come from.
The GPT series of models, for example, has, it can do Sumerian, it can’t do a Syrian, it can’t do Babylonian, even though these are known languages, and it struggles with smaller dialects.
So it won’t do as good a job with Koine Greek as it will with modern Greek.
Ultimately, though, there’s a very heavy bias towards English.
Even I think it’s something like only 20% of the world.
English is is the the major language there.
Most of the world does have some level of capability in English in some fashion for a lot of the the bigger economy nations.
But obviously English is not the first language in those places.
But English has dominance right now in technology because of the nature of technology where a lot of tech industries got started, will that change? Probably.
I mean, China itself is cranking out huge numbers of AI scientists and stuff and I would hold the expect really good large language models to be built in Chinese First, I would expect the same to be true for Hindi and Urdu, right? country of India has 1,000,000,003 1.3 billion people or something along those lines.
Just on numbers alone, they will crank out probably more AI specialists than say, a country like the USA which has only 330 million people, it’s just a numbers game.
So over time, expect those models to get better expect models that are a specific language first, but also expect the GPT series and the big public models to get better as well as they ingest more content as they as they understand more of what is published online.
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Let’s talk about the very timely topic of the Writers Guild of America strike and one of their demands. In particular, this is about artificial intelligence. No surprise, I have no expertise in the rest of their proposal about how writers are paid, but I do have expertise in artificial intelligence. In their position document, the WGA said the following:
“In regards to artificial intelligence, they demand studios regulate the use of artificial intelligence on MBA-covered projects as a means of products that the union works on. AI cannot write or rewrite literary material, can’t be used as source material, and MBA-covered material can’t be used to train AI. Okay, let’s unpack this.
They’re saying that, from their perspective as writers, they don’t want machines writing or rewriting literary material. Writing, I can understand, rewriting machines are really good at that. The critical one is that their writing can’t be used as source material and MBA-covered material can’t be used to train any topic. That ship has sailed.
If you look at all the public, large language models like GPT-4, GPT-NeoX-20B, PaLM, LLaMa… all of them. There are tons of sites online that archive scripts and transcripts of TV shows and movies. There are subtitles available for every single major production going to open subtitles.org. Their writing is already in these models, decades of it in these models. So that ship has sailed.
The part that I think the WGA has underestimated, particularly with streaming companies, is that streaming companies are technology companies first, their entertainment company second, right? They are tech companies. Think about Apple at Apple TV plus, okay, think about Amazon and Amazon Prime. Think about Netflix. These are not legacy entertainment companies like MGM, Paramount, or CBS. These are tech companies that happen to have a foot in the wall entertainment.
They will, without question, use the WGA strike as a golden opportunity to replace writers as quickly as they can. And they have the tech and the know-how to do so. Yeah, legacy studios will struggle with getting the tech up and running. But Amazon, it would not surprise me if Amazon Studios already had custom large language models trained specifically on their massive content catalog ready to go. I mean, Amazon started selling their bedrock language model interface two weeks ago through their AWS service. It’s for others to be able to do so.
That I think this is probably not the position I would have gotten, right? Because think about will Hollywood adopt machines instead of humans for scriptwriting. Of course, they would. It’s an improvement of profitability. And let’s face it, Hollywood studios are not known for their super original content. A lot behind projects get greenlit for profitability reasons, not artistic ones. And if a production can cost $5 million, less just, you have machines doing 80% of the writing.
No studio exec in the right mind is gonna say no to that. And think about it. This is why we’ve got a never-ending supply of reboots and retreads and entertainment. This strike and the implications for AI is going to change the profitability models in entertainment. The companies can spin up the tech real fast; they’re going to shed headcount, and they’re going to move ahead of their peers, the legacy shops that can’t get up to speed with tech is going to fall behind the more tech-enabled companies. And when you think about copyright, yeah, the script, the writing itself might not be copyrightable if it’s purely generated by machine, but that script is not the final IP; the produced show is. So from that perspective, there’s not much of a copyrightation.
So what should the WGA consider as its negotiating position? For me – Now, again, I am not a writer, I do not work in entertainment other than the Save Warrior Nun campaign, and I do not have expertise in the entertainment industry. But I do know machines. So instead of that absolutist, no AI negotiating position, what they probably should have gone with, and they still can, is to make it a demand that WGA writers are required to oversee the use of AI in script production with a quota of one to one. One person for one instance of machinery for production is using a machine. With a technical person on a union production, a WGA writer is required to supervise its use and its output. And so it’s not a case where a tech division in a streaming company could just spin up a room full of GPT instances and scrape a whole bunch of scripts. Now, you still need to do a decent amount of prompt engineering for that and custom model training. But it would be trivial for the WGA to say, “Yeah, our writers are going to be attached to the hip to your tech folks, our writers are going to be in the system itself, looking at what people are putting in for prompts and what comes out.”
And this is going to do two things. One, it keeps the WGA writers meaningfully employed. And second, it will show both the studios and the writers what the strengths and limitations of these large language models are because they do have strengths like rewriting things; they’re really good at that. Writing new stuff? Not as good as that. They can’t really generate truly original new ideas. But they absolutely could take, you know, a script from an old Knight Rider episode and transform it into a Pokémon episode. These machines are extremely good at rewriting.
Prompt engineering, which is the discipline of writing that programming language, plain English code that goes into these machines to get them to do what we want them to do, is something that requires expertise. There is no one better qualified conceptually to be a prompt engineer than a skilled writer. So the WGA’s position should be that they are going to be doing the prompt engineering as well as supervising. I think that would give the studios the ability to use the technology to reduce the time to output and speed up production without eliminating WGA writer positions. And WGA writers will be able to supervise and put a leash on AI without outright saying, “Nope, it’s not allowed here,” because the reality is, it’s already in the technical studios, and those who use it are just gonna march right ahead. And they will use the strike as an excuse to say, “Well, I don’t have human writers, so we’ll just use the machine writers,” and that’s not a position that’s going to help consumers.
If we’re going to get retreads of retreads, it’s not going to help writers. And in the long term, it might not help the studios either because they will be more profitable with it, but the content won’t be as good. So, again, if you work for the WGA and you are a union member, please feel free to send this along to the leadership. If you work in entertainment and you’ve spotted some obvious flaws in my argument, please let me know. Leave a comment or whatever. But that’s where things stand right now, and I think there’s going to be a sea change accelerated by the strike. So hopefully folks can adopt a more nuanced position on AI sooner rather than later.
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode, let’s talk about the very timely topic of the Writers Guild of America strike and one of their demands.
In particular, this is about artificial intelligence, no surprise, I have no expertise in the rest of their proposal about how writers are paid.
But I do have expertise in artificial intelligence.
In their position document, the WGA said the following.
Christopher Penn 0:23
In regards to artificial intelligence, they demand studios regulate the use of artificial intelligence on MBA covered project as a means products that the union works on.
AI cannot write or rewrite literary material can’t be used as source material and MBA covered material can’t be used to train AI.
Okay, let’s unpack this.
Christopher Penn 0:41
They’re saying that, from their perspective, as writers, they don’t want machines writing or rewriting literary material writing, I can understand rewriting machines are really good at that.
Christopher Penn 0:52
The, the critical one is the their writing can’t be used to source material and MBA covered material can’t be used to train any topic.
That ship has sailed.
Christopher Penn 1:01
If you look at all the public, large language models like GPT-4 GPT, Neo x 20, be long on all of them.
There are tons of sites online that archive scripts and transcripts of TV shows and movies, there are subtitles available for every single major production going to open subtitles.org.
Christopher Penn 1:25
Their writing is already in these models, decades of it in these models.
So that ship has sailed
Christopher Penn 1:32
the part that I think the WGA has underestimated, particularly with streaming companies, is that streaming companies are technology companies first, their entertainment company second, right? They are tech companies think about Apple at Apple TV plus, okay, think about Amazon and Amazon Prime.
Think about Netflix.
These are not legacy entertainment companies is not MGM, or paramount, or CBS.
These are tech companies that happen to have a foot in the wall entertainment.
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They will, without question, use the WGA strike as a golden opportunity to replace writers as quickly as they can.
And they have the tech and the know how to do so.
Yeah, Legacy studios will struggle with getting the tech up and running.
But Amazon, Amazon, it would not surprise me if Amazon Studios already had custom large land of models trained specifically on their massive content catalog ready to go.
I mean, Amazon started selling their bedrock language model interface two weeks ago, through their AWS service.
It’s for others to be able to do so
Christopher Penn 2:46
that I think this is probably not not the position I would have gotten, right.
Because think about will Hollywood adopt machines instead of humans for script writing.
Of course they would.
It’s an improvement of profitability.
And let’s face it, Hollywood studios are not known for their super original content a lot behind projects get greenlit for profitability reasons, not artistic ones.
And if a production can cost $5 million, less just you have machines doing 80% of the writing.
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No studio exec in the right mind is gonna say no to that.
And think about it.
This is why we’ve got a never ending supply of reboots, and retreads and entertainment.
This strike and the implications for AI is going to change the profitability models in entertainment.
The companies can spin up the tech real fast, they’re going to shed headcount and they’re going to move ahead of their peers, the legacy shops that can’t get up to speed with tech is going to they’re going to fall behind to the more tech enabled companies.
And when you think about with copyright, yeah, the script the writing itself might not be copyrightable if it’s purely generated by machine but that script is not the final IP at the produced show is so from that perspective, there’s there’s really not much of a copyright ation.
So what should the WGA consider as it’s a negotiating position for me now, again, I am not a writer, I do not work in entertainment other than the Save Warrior Nun campaign, right.
And I do not have expertise in the entertainment industry.
But I do with machines.
So instead of that absolutist, no AI negotiating position, what they probably should have gone with and they still can that could change the position.
So if you’re with the WGA group, please consider taking this input and feeding it back to the folks who are making decisions
Christopher Penn 4:32
make it the demand instead that WGA writers are required to oversee the use of AI and script production with a quota of one to one.
One person for one instance of machinery for production is using
Christopher Penn 4:45
a machine with a technical person on a union production a Wi Fi router is required to supervise its its use and its output.
And so it’s not a case where a tech division
Christopher Penn 5:00
Have a streaming company could just spin up a roomful of GPT instances and scrap a whole bunch of scripts now, you still need to do a decent amount of prompt engineering for that, and custom model training.
But
Christopher Penn 5:12
it would be trivial for the WGA.
To say, Yeah, our writers are going to be attached to the hip to your your tech folks, our writers are going to be in the system itself, looking at what people are putting in for prompts and what comes out.
And this is going to do two things.
One, it keeps the WGA writers meaningfully employed.
And second, it will show both the studios and the writers what the strengths and limitations of these large language models are, because they do have strengths like rewriting things, they’re really good at that, writing that new stuff, not as good as that, right? They can’t really generate truly original new ideas.
But they absolutely could take, you know, a script from an old night writer episode and transform it into a Pokeyman episode.
Maybe these machines are extremely good at rewriting,
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filing
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front engineer, which is the discipline of writing that fleeting language, plain English code that goes into these machines to get them to do what we want them to do.
Christopher Penn 6:21
There is no one better qualified conceptually, conceptually, to be a prompt engineer than a skilled writer.
So the WGA is position should be, we’re going to be doing the prompt engineering, as well as supervise, I think that would give the studios the ability to use the technology to reduce the time to output right to speed up production without eliminating WGA writer positions.
And WGA writers will be able to supervise and put a leash on AI without outright saying Nope, it’s not allowed here, because the reality is, it’s already in the technical studios, and those who use they’re just gonna march right ahead.
And they will use the strike as an excuse to say, well, I don’t have human rights, so we’ll just use the machine lens, and that’s not a position that’s going to help consumers.
If we’re gonna get retreads of retreads, it’s not going to help writers.
And in the long term, it might not help the studio’s either because they will be more profitable with it, but the content won’t be as good.
So, again, he worked for the WGA.
If you are a union member, please feel free to send this along to the leadership.
If you work in entertainment, and you’ve had spot some obvious flaws in my argument, please let me know, leave in the comments or whatever.
But that’s, that’s where things stand right now.
And
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I think there’s going to be a sea change accelerated by the strike, so hopefully folks can adopt a more nuanced position on AI sooner rather than later.
Thanks for watching.
Talk to you soon.
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Ashley asks, “How do you see the use of AI evolving in business processes over the next decade?”
In this video, I discuss how the use of AI in business processes is evolving rapidly and constantly changing week by week. It is impossible to predict exactly how AI’s usage will look like in a decade, but we do know that businesses want to make money, save money, and save time, while customers want things better, faster, and cheaper. AI can help streamline and improve processes that are repetitive, such as content marketing and processing invoices, eroding a lot of those tasks that consume time and energy. However, this poses a challenge as many people are employed to do repetitive tasks. The evolution of AI in business processes must figure out how the productivity and profitability gains that AI will lead, make their way back into the population so that people can afford to buy the stuff that we’re making. If we don’t solve that, they will be no customers.
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You Ask, I Answer: Evolution of AI in Business Processes?
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Christopher Penn 0:00
In today’s episode, Ashley asks, How do you see the use of AI evolving in business processes over the next decade? I don’t know, the next decade, I can barely keep up with what’s going on an AI today.
Right? We’re going on a week to week basis these days in terms of the advancements happening in AI literally week to week, next week, who knows what’s going to happen last week, we had autonomous AI agents pop up out of nowhere.
This field is changing so fast.
So fast.
There is no way to know what AI’s usage was going to look like in a decade.
I mean, for all we know, there will be no employees in the decade, right? That’s unlikely, but it’s not entirely impossible.
What we do know and this is a philosophy that I believe in, even if you don’t necessarily believe in the source.
It’s something that Jeff Bezos said a long time ago with the founding of Amazon and Amazon’s business strategy.
And it was simply focus on what doesn’t change, right? What do businesses What does not change about businesses? Businesses want to make money, they want to save money, they want to save time, customers want things better, faster, and cheaper, those things don’t change, right? That is that is as constant as the sun rising.
No one is saying, hey, I want things to be less convenient with poor service and cost more, no one says that.
Almost no one says I’m sure there’s someone somewhere.
The vast majority people do not say that the vast majority people say I want better, faster and cheaper.
How do you get me better, faster and cheaper? So when we look at artificial intelligence and business processes today, what are the things that could be better, faster and cheaper? What are the things where there are serious inefficiencies right now that you could streamline? For example, a real simple example of content marketing, right people writing blog posts, a ChatGPT type type model type system, writes blog posts, right? It’s better because there’s let’s face it, not everyone’s a great writer.
So it can be better.
It’s certainly much faster, and as a lot cheaper, on an hourly basis on an output basis.
And so AI is the solution there, it makes a whole lot of sense.
Building an autonomous AI solution to process invoices.
That is a human process.
Now this slow, is cumbersome, it’s not a great use of someone’s time.
It’s very mechanical, it is very repetitive, ripe opportunity there.
What are the things in your business that are repetitive? What are the things that are repetitive, those are up for grabs with AI.
If you have a process that is super repetitive, like issuing invoices, follow ups for, you know, late invoices you have you have accounting tasks, if you have marketing tasks, sales tasks that are all the same thing over and over and over again, those are right to be handed off to a machine.
And in the next decade, I would expect to see machines erode a lot of those tasks, right? That’s just got to consume those tasks.
And they should, let’s face it, how much fun is it to fill out an expense report? Right? Is this something you really look forward to? Now? Is it repetitive? Yep? Could a machine learn to do that? Sure, could.
And there are plenty of companies that are trying to solve problems exactly like that.
How much fun is it to scan in documents for optical character recognition and classify them? Not a whole lot of fun? Right? The plenty of people and companies doing that? Uh huh.
Is that a task to be handed off to machine? You betcha.
I would expect given the rate of evolution with artificial intelligence, particularly generative AI and autonomous AI, that the majority of repetitive business tasks will be consumed by AI within the next decade.
It could be next week.
I mean, it’s it’s happening fast.
This this is being recorded in May of 2023.
By May of 2020, for this episode of show may look completely outdated, who knows how fast it will move, but we can be certain of the direction it will move, the direction that will move will be removing repetitive tasks.
Here’s the challenge.
An awful lot of people are employed to do repetitive tasks.
Right.
So a big part of the evolution of AI within business is figuring out what are we gonna do with all the extra people? Right because we will have if you have a roomful of 50 accountants, and generative AI and autonomous AI can do 80% of the work.
You really only need 10 accountants.
So what do you do with the other 40? We don’t have an answer for that.
There isn’t an answer for that, that people are willing to consider in today’s environment.
There are answers.
Answers like universal bait Skin come is an answer.
It’s not an answer.
That’s real popular, but it would be an effective answer.
So I think part of the evolution of AI in business processes and business in general is figuring out how do the productivity and profitability gains that AI will lead, make their way back into the population so that people can afford to buy the stuff that we’re making.
If we don’t solve that, they will be no customers.
Right? Because all there’ll be massive income inequality, and there’ll be no customers because no one be able to afford anything.
So those are some of the things to look for in the next decade with regard to AI business processes.
In the short term, you can guaranteed count on people wanting to save money, wanting to make money and wanting to save time, you can count on customers saying I want things better, faster and cheaper.
Any process that you have that inhibits the pathway to those two sets of outcomes, is going to get steamrolled by AI and it probably should be really good question.
We could spend a whole lot of time talking about this, but I think that’s enough for now.
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