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  • Almost Timely News, 18 September 2022: Room Temperature Takes From Content Marketing World 2022

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    What’s On My Mind: Room Temperature Takes From Content Marketing World 2022

    One of my favorite events of the year, Content Marketing World, has come and gone. Let’s do some room temperature takes on the big themes and my reactions to them.

    Why room temperature takes? Because “hot takes” implies rapid and vigorous reactions, and these are neither.

    Robert Rose: “Even search is inefficient now. TikTok has conditioned us and our audiences that good content will be delivered to us automatically.”

    Robert’s TikTok example is amplified by so many trends in marketing right now. Google’s One Box search results, featured snippets, and other delivery mechanisms causing zero click search results. Facebook and Instagram mimicking the TikTok method of content delivery. Even the venerable newsletter – everything’s about reducing friction. And nothing reduces friction between the creator and the consumer like giving the consumer what they want before they have to ask for it.

    Drew Davis: “Here the simple strategy of just answering obvious questions is badly outdated because it’s low value commodity content. Instead answer rarely asked questions.”

    Drew’s premise for content marketing is to create content for specific, narrow personas at the top of the org chart instead of broad content that’s a commodity like frequently asked questions for junior practitioners. The content he’s proposing has little to no SEO value because only a handful of people are searching for something, but it can have enormous impact if you can get it to them. In some aspects, it’s reminiscent of category design, where you try to identify very niche ideas and blow them out into something big.

    Joe Pulizzi: “Lease space. Add new content to existing feeds and audiences instead of creating new properties. Almost like advertorial.”

    This is a common sense tactic that we see channels like First We Feast enact with great success. Instead of starting up new properties and new audiences from scratch, using existing inventory and audiences. For example, in my YouTube feed, you’ll see several different shows that serve one audience – You Ask, I Answer, Mind Readings, So What?, and travel related stuff. If I were to split them out, I’d end up fragmenting my audience. Joe’s suggestion is to do the reverse – and even consider incorporating related content from others (with their permission) in your feed if it’s relevant.

    Ann Handley: “Brand voice test: if you cover up the logo, can someone tell it’s your content?”

    This is the classic white label test that we’ve been talking about for over a decade – and yet, so few brands do this well. Ask yourself this – if you didn’t know your company’s newsletter or blog came from your company, could it just as easily be a competitor’s?

    Mike Allton: “The key to high volume content creation: idea capture on any device at any time. Never let an idea get away.”

    These days, with the advent of smart watches, smart phones, smart speakers, etc. there’s literally no excuse at all to let an idea vanish on you. Capture it somehow; I’m a big fan of the free Joplin app because it syncs across all my devices and I can faceroll my ideas into a central repository anywhere.

    Mark Harrison: “A vision statement is a vision: you can see it, you chase it, but you never catch it.”

    I loved Mark’s description of what a vision really is.

    Ashley Zeckman: “RELATIONSHIPS ARE NOT CAMPAIGNS. Stop treating influencer programs as one off initiatives.”

    This point grinds on me for more than just influence. There’s a conference that sets up new communities before every single major event – and then promptly abandons those communities the moment the closing keynote is done. Why? Because the organizers no longer see the conference community as something they can harvest for revenue, and their primary push is to force everyone into their paid community instead.

    It’s fine to ask for money. But don’t bait and switch people – ask for money up front so people know what they’re getting into.

    Andy Crestodina: “Specificity correlates with conversion.”

    Andy’s talk as usual was filled with practical advice, but I thought this aphorism was especially useful. How many things do we have on our websites and marketing collateral that are generic? Harkening back to Ann’s talk, if you covered up the context on a page, could an audience member tell what the value was? “Contact us” really doesn’t say anything – and it’s self-centered. “Get help with your marketing analytics today” says a lot more, and it’s not something that, say, Home Depot would have on their site.

    My talk: Content attribution is about what content works. Channel attribution is about where content works. Content is the ingredient, channel is the cooking method – and you need good ingredients and good methods to deliver.

    I’ll be blunt, I felt like my talk went poorly. Despite rehearsal, it was shorter than I wanted it to be and I feel like the key points were muddled, so that talk goes back into the shop for reworking.

    One final observation from the event as a whole and from evidence in my session specifically. I feel like we’ve rebooted marketing, and not in a good way. Listening to questions, listening to conversations, I felt like the overall audience had lost a lot of institutional knowledge, that the audience wasn’t as advanced in their marketing journey as they were prior to the pandemic.

    For example, I asked at one point how many people were familiar with Google Analytics’ UTM parameters. Almost every hand went up. That was great. Then I asked how many people use them consistently and regularly – and I lost 95% of the hands. Using UTM tracking codes dates back to 2005 – this is in no way a new concept, and yet the audience wasn’t following through on even the most basic of marketing attribution tasks.

    This is bad news for marketing, especially marketing operations. Marketing isn’t getting easier or less complex – but if our ability to work in challenging, complex environments has diminished, then we’re poorly set up for success.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Listening for Small Business?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Listening for Small Business?

    Tim asks, “Any tips for convincing a small business that they need to pay for social listening, Not just posting?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Listening for Small Business?

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    In today’s episode, Tim asks any tips for convincing a small business that they need to pay for social listening? Not just posting? Sure.

    Do you want to know when people are talking about you? And that’s, that’s the easiest way to position it.

    Do you want to know when people are talking about you? Do you want to know what they’re saying? When they’re talking about you? If the answer is no, then you’re not going to make a sale on social listening software, because that’s a business that is not interested in listening to people, it’s not interested in listening to what customers have to say.

    On the other hand, if a company is interested in listening, that would be how I would try to convince that person.

    Think about it this way.

    social listening is about hearing what people are saying about any given topic.

    So it could be you.

    It could be your industry, it could be the problems people are having.

    It could be your competitors, what people are saying about your competitors? Wouldn’t you like to know what people are saying about your competitors? Wouldn’t you like to know what people are saying about you? And if nobody’s talking about you, that is a pretty big problem.

    Right? If nobody’s talking about you, if there’s nothing to listen to, you’re not doing a very good job of building a brand.

    Right? That’s fundamentally what’s happening when there’s no data to look at.

    And social listing, if you’re tuned in to your name, your products, your services, your executives, and there’s no conversation, then you need to invest a lot more heavily in brand building, because you’re not, you’re not creating a brand, you’re not creating something that’s worth talking about.

    If nobody’s talking about you and your competitors and your industry, then you’ve got a much bigger problem.

    You’re basically in a space that nobody is active in social media about, which is maybe fine, right? There are certain industries where, yeah, there isn’t a whole lot of conversation on public social media.

    And that’s a good thing, right? Anything around like national security, you should not be having top secret conversations on Twitter, right? Just like you shouldn’t be leaving, you know, top secret file folders in like, you know, next year pool.

    Those industries, highly regulated industries, yes, you for sure do not want to be having conversations of a sensitive nature in public.

    And social listening might be of relatively little help in those situations.

    Because again, that’s not where the conversations happening.

    But good media monitoring tools, can can provide that the social part along with everything else, right, there are certain services like Talkwalker, for example, that cover not just social listening, but also media publications, news, television, podcasts, etc.

    And that is something that you’d probably want to have your your your finger on the pulse of to say, are people on podcasts about our industry talking about us? Do we ever get mentioned in podcasts, if we do get mentioned, great.

    If we don’t, then people don’t think about us people don’t remember that we exist, people don’t realize that we are part of this industry.

    And that’s something that you can and should solve for.

    So the way to make a use case for media monitoring or social listening, or conversation monitoring, or whatever term you want to call it, is one, does the organization already have a commitment to listening in some form? Right? Do you read customer emails? Do you handle customer complaints? Well, if the answer there is no, you’re probably not going to get anywhere social listening, right? If you’re not listening to the most valuable people that you already have contact with your customers, you’re not going to listen to anybody else.

    And it is time possibly to update your LinkedIn profile.

    If the company says yes, we have a culture of listening, we have a culture of of paying attention to what customers have to say, then you can say great, here are places where customers are having conversations.

    And you can use you know, either free or low cost tools.

    One of my favorites is Talkwalker alerts.

    Christopher Penn 4:21

    If you go to talkwalker.com/alerts you can sign up for free, some free basic media monitoring, and see what is being said to see what’s being talked about.

    If nobody is saying anything.

    Nobody’s talking in and you’ve set up your queries, well, then, yeah, social listening might not be a good fit.

    On the other hand, if people are talking about the industry, or talking about your competitors, maybe even talking about you, then you can demonstrate a business case like yeah, we want to know what the audience has to say about our industry so that we can react to it right if We’re doing some social listening and our competitors are talking and they’re, they’re talking trash about everybody else the industry, we want to know about it, we want to be able to say, that’s not true, right? That’s not true, our burger is just as large as their burger or, you know, our pizza delivery is just as on time as their pizza delivery, whatever the example is, fill in your own blank there.

    But you want to make sure that you can showcase here’s the conversations that are relevant to us, and why we need to be listening for them.

    And maybe, if there’s good competitive chatter that’s available, maybe even showcase Hey, we might even be able to snipe a customer from a competitor by being part of the conversation faster than our competitors are.

    Right.

    And so we would use social listening software to do that.

    So there’s a lot of different ways.

    Obviously, one objection is price.

    quite small businesses, small budgets, for the most part is a general rule.

    And there are options all up and down the spectrum for, for literally every budget, there’s the free things like Talkwalker alerts, on the other hand, is the paid Talkwalker product, which is more for mid sized business.

    There’s a company like brand 24, which is a small to midsize business sector, this, there’s so many different options, all along the spectrum of tools that can do a lot of good listening for you find the right tool that fits your budget that fits what you’re going to do with the data.

    But make sure that you have those examples of here’s how we would use this data to take action because that for a lot of people is the hard part.

    Explain to a company why they need they don’t see what you do with the information.

    When you see a media mention of yourself, for example, maybe you see a someone calling you out on Twitter in a good way.

    Yeah, retweet that run ads, promote that post boost, do something.

    And once you have a series of decisions that you take based on a piece of media, then it’s easy to justify media monitoring and social listening, because you can say yeah, this is what you do with the information.

    This is how we take action on it.

    This is how we build the business with it by saying yeah, we can we use this as third party testimonials, right? We can showcase these things on our on our LinkedIn page or on our website.

    Here’s what people are saying about us.

    Unpaid people are saying this about us on Twitter.

    This is you know, these are conversations you want to highlight.

    So that’s how I would do it.

    Come up with the use cases.

    Figure out where your company’s culture is around things like social listening, and then go from there.

    Good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What CMOs Want From Agencies?

    You Ask, I Answer: What CMOs Want From Agencies?

    Bonnie asks, “what does a CMO want to see from their Agency in 2022?”

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    In today’s episode, Bonnie asks, What does a CMO want to see from their agency? And 2022? This is a relatively easy question to answer.

    It’s the same thing that they want to see from the agency and 2021 or 90 and 21.

    Right? What have you done for me lately? How are you helping me get my bonus? That’s it.

    A cmo wants to know what the agency has done? What results have you gotten? Are you getting consistently bigger and better results? If you’re a PR agency? Have you gotten me in better publications? Have you gotten me in front of more reporters or sources or influencers? If you’re an ad agency, have you increased the number of clicks and conversions I’ve gotten? Have you decreased my costs? Everybody wants the same three things better, faster, cheaper, that’s what we all want.

    An agency that can deliver one of those three is going to do really well.

    Two out of three, you’ve got a client for as long as they want you and three out of three, your clients probably going to try and buy because you’re delivering miracles, better, faster and cheaper.

    That’s what we all want.

    So when we look at what an agency is tasked with doing, you know, if you’re an SEO agency, have you improved my organic search traffic? Right? Am I getting more and better search traffic than I was a year ago? If you’re? If you’re a management consulting agency, like Trust Insights, have you solved problems and taken things off my to do list, right? Have you taken more off my to do list and you’ve put on it, that’s a really easy one.

    Where agencies run into trouble, is not delivering on those things, is not focusing on what the customer wants, the customer wants better, faster and cheaper.

    And if you as an agency are not delivering better or faster or cheaper, you’re not going to keep the client, right? If you are making the client’s life harder, if you are just spending money, if you are not showing any value not showing any return on investment, you’re gonna make the CMO really unhappy.

    So if you were hiring agency, what would you want from them, you hire an agency really for one of two reasons.

    There’s knowledge that they have that you don’t, that you need their expertise for.

    Or you’re hiring hired guns, you know, butts in seats, or hands on keyboards, because you just don’t have enough, right? In those two scenarios.

    If you have the knowledge, as an agency, if you have the specialized knowledge, you’re sure that you should be delivering certainly better performance, perhaps faster, maybe cheaper, maybe not.

    But you should be delivering on better.

    If you are selling hands selling butts and seats, you should be doing a little bit better, we should be doing a lot faster, and maybe cheaper.

    When a CMO is weighing whether to spend this 100 grand on two hires, or one agency, the two hires are going to be cheaper, just generally speaking, hires are almost always cheaper than an agency.

    So as an agency, you’ve got to deliver on better and faster all the time.

    That’s what a CMO wants to see.

    That’s what anybody wants to see from the agency.

    What have you done for me lately? It’s a truism.

    You know, you are only as good as your last win.

    Whatever it is, whether it was a campaign that went well, whether it was a insightful analysis, whether it was a big placement in a TV show, or a newspaper or whatever, you’re only as good as your last one.

    And if you haven’t had a good win recently, you’re in trouble.

    So that’s what the CMO wants to see.

    Now, how do you do that? That’s a whole other topic.

    But that’s what every stakeholder wants to see better, faster, cheaper.

    How we deliver on that is, what makes or breaks whether we keep the client or not.

    Good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Generational Word of Mouth Differences?

    You Ask, I Answer: Generational Word of Mouth Differences?

    Dave asks, “Have you found any generational differences in the amount of word of mouth happening?”

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    In today’s episode, Dave asks, Have you found any generational differences in the amount of word of mouth happening in short now.

    Now people talk about things that they like the catch their attention, regardless of age, or gender, or demographic or geographical location or any of those things.

    If something’s cool, people talk about it.

    People shared people distributed people promoted.

    What has changed are the channels where people talk about these things.

    50 years ago, it was literally around the watercooler right, or maybe in the newspaper 25 years ago, it was by email, right email and endless, endless forwards.

    People forwarding hitting reply all on everything all the time, the bad old days.

    10 years ago, it was on Facebook, today, a whole bunch of new channels where people are spreading word of mouth.

    Everything from places like next door to you know old school places like Facebook, they are still people technically on MySpace Tiktok, Discord, Slack, you name it.

    What has changed is the number of channels available to people.

    And the speed at which word of mouth spreads, you know, a group chat or group text, you’re talking about word spreading instantly.

    When you talk about things like a discord community or a Slack community, you’re talking about scaling word of mouth, to a large group of people behind closed doors where marketers can’t see.

    But the word of mouth is 100% happening.

    So the generational differences to the extent that there are is really about the channel, the channel of communication, how people prefer to spread the word.

    But the underlying fundamentals have not changed, you have to have something worth talking about.

    Right word of mouth will not spread if there’s nothing to spread, if your product is exactly the same as a competitor and maybe 2%, cheaper, who cares? If your product is working with one company, their product was twice the price and half the quality of the newest competitor.

    And it was always an ongoing struggle to explain to the stakeholders like why why people weren’t talking about the product in a positive light? Well, because it was twice the price and half the half the quality of the company was to competitor.

    The challenge, the big challenge is that what constitutes word of mouth, that bar has gotten a little bit higher, not necessarily in the product itself.

    But in the ability for one person to get another person’s attention about something, we are living in a media landscape that is so pervasive, that is so attention hungry, that everybody wants us talking about something everybody’s asking us to share to spread the word to promote.

    And when everybody’s doing it, it gets really noisy.

    So to stand out to have word of mouth be effective, you have to be substantially better than the other things that occupy word of mouth.

    Right? You have to be better than the content on Disney plus, you have to be better than the sports team that’s playing, you have to be better than the politicians that pissed you off last week.

    And that’s a tall bar.

    Because those other things.

    Those other things consume a lot of attention.

    Attention is the scarcest thing we have, right? I’m thankful that you’re just watching this video at all right? Because you’re giving me attention when you could be giving it to, I don’t know, you know, some politician ranting about something.

    We have to figure out how to continue to earn attention and hold on to it.

    So if you’re looking at your data, and you’re seeing generational differences, what you really are probably seeing is channel differences, which means that you should do some attribution modeling and figure out where does your attention to come from? And how aggressively are you pursuing getting more of it on the channels that are working without You know, when I look at my data, there isn’t a single channel that is standing out heads and shoulders above all the rest saying this is the channel of beyond except email.

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    email is the one channel that I have now, maybe I’m just a bad marketer.

    But email is the one channel that consistently delivers very high rates of attention.

    Everything else, attention seems to be very, very ephemeral, even, you know, the private Slack community and stuff.

    getting people’s attention on a regular consistent basis can be challenging, because there’s so much else competing for our attention, so much else competing for the recommendations we make.

    The other thing that, again, is not generational, but is a content thing is that we have to remind people to share stuff, we have to ask people for word of mouth, relying on it alone, without that encouragement is really, it’s not a winning strategy.

    Right? You’ve got to be able to ask people say, Hey, if you liked this, please tell a friend about it.

    If you liked this newsletter, you liked this YouTube video.

    Please tell a friend about tell two friends about it.

    And not a lot of marketers do that.

    Well.

    A lot of marketers forget to do it entirely myself included.

    My My hand is my hand is up in that batch of people forget to ask for word of mouth.

    But if you don’t ask you don’t receive.

    So that would be my perspective that is not generation or age it is channel and we’ve got to make things easier to spread.

    We’ve got to make things easier for word of mouth to happen.

    We don’t do that right now.

    So really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Automation In a Recession?

    You Ask, I Answer: Automation In a Recession?

    Ann asks, “In the “great recession” is finding ways to automate process and free up time find efficiencies the biggest challenge for agency managers and leads?”

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    In today’s episode and asks in the Great Recession is finding ways to automate processes and free up time finding efficiencies, the biggest challenge for emergency managers and leads? Well, the great recession technically was 2008 to 2011.

    But I assume you mean, the impending recession that a lot of people are talking about? It depends, it depends on what’s wrong.

    If you are a small shop that’s already lean and mean, automation might not be a huge game changer for you, it might not be a big change in your efficiency.

    On the other hand, it might be if you are an incredibly inefficient agency, right? If you’re doing everything by hand, the answer will always vary based on where you are, where you where your strengths and weaknesses are.

    That said, larger organizations tend to have more opportunity for efficiencies, tend to have more opportunity for process documentation for improvement for automation.

    At the last agency I worked at which was a decently sized agency like 300 people, by the time I left, there were 100% jobs, entire jobs that could have been replaced.

    One of the most junior Jobs was account coordinator.

    Remember this, this person was copying and pasting, Google search results into a spreadsheet, eight hours a day, I don’t know how this person didn’t just claw their own eyeballs out or bring a pickaxe to work, because that’s just soul deadening.

    Work.

    And 100% can be done by machine, right, you could free up that person’s eight hours a day to have them doing something more valuable than copying and pasting.

    If your agency doesn’t have any automation, right now, there’s a very good chance, there are some opportunities, some easy things you can do to find those efficiencies.

    But as with everything there are, there are diminishing returns, right after you’ve automated way all the easy stuff.

    The next most difficult things tend to be more time consuming to automate, it takes longer to automate things, it takes more skill, better tools to do that kind of automation.

    So copy pasting chores, right, you can automate that today.

    And that would see a huge, huge win a huge time saver.

    Transcription of meetings.

    Easy one, right? Transcription of client calls super easy.

    Automating the templates for your reporting, putting them in something like Google Data Studio, where it’s not only automated, but it is real time.

    So the clients happier, easy win.

    But then once you’ve solved all these stuff, then you have to start saying okay, what is the opportunity cost of automating something versus some innovation, some r&d, or some new business building? It all depends, it depends on your challenges as an agency.

    That said, if you know you’re going into a recession, if you know that a recession is imminent, freeing up time is a good idea.

    And then taking that time and devoting it to the generation of new business to sales to selling more stuff is the way through, because in almost every economic downturn, the same advice holds true.

    Whether it’s, you know, the 1800s or whether it’s today, cash is king, cash flow is king.

    If you have more money coming in, then you have going out, you’re doing okay, if you have less money coming in and is going out, you are inevitably eventually doomed, right? It may not be today, it may not be next week, but eventually, you’re going out of business.

    So if you can find ways to reduce wasteful overhead to keep the amount of money going out smaller, and you can find ways of bringing in more money in the door on a cash flow basis.

    You will, you will weather the recession better than most right.

    Where recessions get people is always when you flip the table and suddenly you have less cash coming in.

    You have less less cash coming in.

    And you have not done a good enough job optimizing the cash going out and your business runs into trouble.

    You personally run into trouble right? If you’re spending more than you’re earning as a person as a household as a company.

    Christopher Penn 4:58

    Eventually you run out of runway eventually you run out of room.

    And that’s when that’s when the real problems begin.

    So, if you can tighten up, find those efficiencies, reduce your spends, and increase your revenues.

    You’ll be well positioned for the Great Recession and automation may well be part of that.

    But do some self awareness, do some checks to figure out where you are, and what you think the things are that you could automate away fairly easily.

    There will be a few things, do those sooner rather than later? And then really take a hard look at your cash flow.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Impact of AI on Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Impact of AI on Content Marketing?

    Maria asks, “Is there anything specific that worries you about the impact of AI for content/marketing, etc?”

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    In today’s episode, Maria asks, is there anything specific that worries you about the impact of AI for content or marketing, etc? worries me.

    Um, there’s a few things that are concerns.

    First and foremost is intellectual property, a lot of the law around AI doesn’t exist yet, when a machine creates content, who owns it? Right now, the precedent that has been set thus far is that if a piece of software generates some sort of output, because you are the operator of the software, it is your intellectual property, right? You open up Microsoft Word, yeah, type of document out, and then you’ve created this thing, and it is yours.

    However, when you use something like the DaVinci model for text generation, or stable diffusion, you are still involved in the process, you were still pushing the Go button, but the machine is doing more of the work.

    So then the question becomes, does the model itself, get some credit, in the same way that say, an undergrad student in your lab would get credit for their contributions to an academic paper, we don’t have answers to this yet, I suspect we will not have answers to this for at least a little while, because it’s not clear.

    The machines themselves cannot create content by themselves.

    Right? If you turn on stable diffusion, load all the libraries and stuff, it just sits there, it doesn’t do anything, right.

    It’s like a, it’s like a blender, you buy a blender, plug it into the wall, you can even put ingredients in it.

    But unless a human pushes the button to make the blender go, nothing happens.

    The same was true of AI systems, nothing happens about human inputs.

    So if I as the human condition, the environment and push the Go button, is the intellectual property mind.

    Again, current precedent says that software doesn’t necessarily create intellectual property humans do.

    And that machine can’t own a patent, a machine amp can’t own a copyright a human or an entity run by humans, like a corporation can.

    Who knows? We don’t know the answer to that.

    So for now, we operate as though you the human are responsible for that.

    So that’s one aspect.

    The second aspect that is, it doesn’t worry me, but it is a concern is that you have this bar of competence, right? The bar of competence is where the machines are versus where you are.

    Maybe you’re a below average writer.

    And for the last four years, machines have been far below average, right? They crank the crank a word salad today, they’re below average writers write, in certain circumstances that actually even are why we call them average writers, mediocre writers, which means they’re above you now in terms of competence.

    And as time goes on, those machine models will keep getting better and better and better.

    And so for us, the humans, we have to keep getting better and better and better as well, so that we stay ahead of that bar of competence.

    That’s getting harder to do for a lot of people.

    And so, one of the things we have to take into consideration is, at what point do we become just the conductors of the orchestra? Right? For something like painting? I’m a terrible painter.

    My, my first inclination would be to use something like stable diffusion, if I wanted to create some kind of art, because it’s better than I am, right? I’m bad at it.

    So it’s better than me.

    So what happens as writing becomes better than me or videography becomes better than me, I have to use these tools.

    I have to change how I work to incorporate these tools so that maybe, instead of me doing the painting, I’m writing the prompt that creates the painting and fine tuning it that way.

    Christopher Penn 4:35

    Again, it’s not a worry right now.

    It is more something I’m watching very carefully.

    How fast is the bar of competency rising with machines? How far is it compared to humans? And are the humans who are going to be impacted? Are they paying attention to it? Are they taking advantage of the time that they have now to level up their skills? So that At they can they can be more effective and not be replaced by machines really good question there’s a lot more to unpack in here but really good question thanks for asking if you’d like this video go ahead and hit that subscribe button


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    Let’s say you’re getting ready to write a book or put together a big presentation. Lots of people have excellent guides about the process itself, such as my friend Tamsen Webster’s Find the Red Thread process. But relatively few tackle figuring out what the topic should be in the first place. So I thought I’d share a few different things I do to figure out topics and ideas; hopefully they’ll be helpful to you, especially if you’ve been asked to come up with a topic for a book or a conference talk.

    The first step is a bit of self-awareness. What are the topics and areas where you have actual expertise of some kind to share? You can’t build with materials you don’t have, so that part comes first. The best place to figure this out? Your inbox. What are the topics and discussions you’re giving advice or perspective on all the time? What do people need your help with most frequently? At work, what do people stop by your desk to ask about all the time?

    Here’s a good one: what are you really tired of answering?

    The second step is to listen. A lot. Go listen to conversations in hallways at conferences. Go listen to questions and answers from others on the topic, if there are any. Go hang out on Reddit, in Discord or Slack, anywhere people can have real conversations, and listen to the questions being asked and the answers being given.

    What questions do you have a better answer for?

    Here’s one of my favorite secret questions I ask myself: what answers do I disagree with most, perhaps even vigorously? The more I have an emotional reaction to something, the more I know there’s something there worth exploring.

    If you already do a lot of writing, check your analytics! What are the topics that have captured the attention of your audience already?

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    If you don’t have any of that, take a look at your favorite SEO tool to see what people are Googling for, and use that as a jumping off point, especially Google’s “people also ask” questions.

    The third step is to extend your idea. Adjacency is one of the most power idea-growing tools we have, and it’s based on your subject matter expertise. When someone’s talking about problems they’re having, do they really have just those problems, or is there an underlying root problem? At lunch this week, a colleague asked why I thought companies had so many heterogenous data problems and I said the real problem is the people using the systems. The systems and data complexity is just a symptom of a much bigger problem.

    With your topic, what’s the next logical step, the next logical magnification of the problem? How big does the impact get if you don’t address it? For example, the EU essentially ruled that the use of Google Analytics 3 within the EU is flat out illegal, and several nations have litigated cases against it, such as France’s CNIL. What are the logical consequences of this? If Google Analytics, and the fundamental technologies it is based on are illegal, what else is illegal? Your SaaS marketing automation software, if it has a similar technical architecture, probably is. So is your CRM. We’re still waiting to see if the EU agrees that Google Analytics 4 solves the problems found in Google Analytics 3 or not.

    From there, you could expand the topic to compliant technologies or privacy-friendly analytics alternatives like marketing mix modeling – but the point is that adjacency is what helps you showcase your knowledge.

    The fourth step is to experiment with low-risk content. Before you sacrifice 18 months of your sanity writing a book or hundreds of hours building a course, write a newsletter article. Put up a YouTube video. Conduct a webinar. Publish a short whitepaper. If your idea in a smaller form doesn’t get any traction, you can be fairly certain making it bigger won’t make it better. My friend Jay Baer does talks on a topic for a year and collects audience reactions from it – then he writes the book if there’s enough interest.

    Last week I started promoting the paper on private social media communities. I had initially set out to write a book about it, but I wasn’t sure it was worth it, so I made a paper instead. And you downloaded it like crazy and replied, commented, and asked questions so… looks like a book is on the horizon for it after all.

    Of course, the fifth and final step is to do it, to make the idea real. To write the book, to deliver the talk, to build the course – and then use the feedback you get to make an even better version 2.

    But as with any process, skipping straight to the end probably isn’t the best idea, so take the process I’ve outlined above to identify a topic and then see how viable it is for a big project. This method will save you a lot of time and heartache!

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Staying Current with Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Current with Marketing Trends?

    Lauren asks, “How do you stay current with all the digital/social changes that come up daily and how do you keep you team on the cutting edge?”

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    In today’s episode, Lauren asks, How do you stay current with all the digital and social changes that come up daily? And how do you keep your team on the cutting edge? I mean, it’s, it’s a combination of a few different things.

    One is lots of reading.

    There are any number of really good industry sources in any part of marketing that you can read search engine, land marketing, land, martec.org, Social Media Examiner, you name it, there’s so many publications, so many blogs that cover our space as well.

    So that’s one part.

    Second part is having a community that is keeping an eye on things.

    So one of the most valuable secret weapons that I have is belonging to five or six, Slack and discord servers, analytics for marketers, for example, the Trust Insights, Slack, where people can ask questions and bring up things that say, Hey, is anybody tried this has anybody working on this and they’ll be like, Oh, I didn’t even know that was out.

    So time to start Googling, let’s, let’s go, go dig in.

    And, of course, I contribute my things based on on what I’m working on.

    So when stable diffusion got released by hugging face, I was like, Hey, I’m trying this out, and, you know, posted my picture Charmander, you know, eating at a dinner table.

    So the other folks in the community benefit from that as well.

    That community, those communities, and you don’t have to run one, you can just join them, those communities are how you stay on the cutting edge.

    Because as problems occur, and as people have solutions to those problems, they share them, they talk about them, as long as you have earned enough trust to be part of the community, you can benefit from it and be faster.

    The third thing is keep an eye on specific people.

    You know, you can follow them on Twitter, or Instagram or LinkedIn or the you know, the service of your choice.

    Keeping an eye on people and what they have to share and what they’re talking about.

    And what they’re worried about is really powerful, particularly if you can do it, for example, you know, online and then meet up with people at events and say, Hey, what are your what’s keeping you up at night these days? That’s one of my favorite questions to ask people.

    What’s keeping you up at night these days? For a lot of folks right now, it’s sort of this this marketing orchestration thing, the fact that we’ve got so many technology systems and so much marketing technology, and none of it talks to itself, none of it talks to each other.

    It’s all so disconnected that people like I’m literally losing sleep, wondering what is going to go wrong in my MAR tech stack.

    Or for analytics, folks, you know, people are literally losing sleep thinking about everything happening with Google Analytics, you know, the the transition to Google Analytics 4 And how bumpy that road has been for so many people.

    Those are the three things, knowledgeable people to follow a community to ask questions with, then reputable sources for gathering information.

    This is the same formula by the way that you use for anything.

    So in January of 2020, a community of folks that I follow, started raising questions and concerns stuff about some novel Coronavirus out of China.

    That popped up in December 2019.

    And by the end of January, it was pretty clear this thing was on a exponential growth path.

    And like, Oh, this is a thing.

    And so what did I do with the first things I did, I joined some communities of people with actual medical degrees and PhDs in virology and immunology because I didn’t trust the mainstream media.

    I rarely trust the mainstream media on any kind of scientific or technical reporting, because it just water it down too much.

    Christopher Penn 4:18

    I started following a list of people on Twitter again, looking for people who have been in their careers for 15 or 20 years, people who were invented mRNA and stuff like that.

    And then looking at reputable publications and things, looking at expert opinions looking at studies and scientific papers.

    So a community of people to ask experts to look at and a body of of work to read.

    What did that get me? It got me to the point where I wasn’t surprised at the events that unfolded for the next two and a half years right with with COVID But we’re not what we now call COVID.

    I knew about it sooner because it was following The right people keep my ear to the ground.

    Someone was asking me the other day, what newsletters I read, I read, defense news early bird brief, that is a daily email summary of what’s going on in the US military around the world.

    I look at Jeremy singer vines, data’s plural and interesting and unique datasets from around the world.

    I read the BBC, as my primary regular news source.

    I read very little marketing, actually, because the big picture stuff, it has the knock on effects to marketing, right? Marketing is, you know, a sort of a lagging industry to current events.

    So if you know, in say, late February 2020, and you start emailing event organizers saying, hey, this thing looks like it’s gonna be a thing.

    You want me a video, my session? Everybody writes back, what are you talking about? Sure enough, two months later, like, oh, that’s awkward.

    Did you know about that, like, all the right people.

    staying current with the macro stuff is really important, right? staying current on climate change is critical to your marketing and critical to your marketing, because you need to understand the effects of it.

    And things like supply chain disruptions.

    Things like the nation of Pakistan at this moment is one of the third of it is underwater.

    And you might say, well, that’s on the other side of the planet for me, and well, yes, but a lot of stuff gets manufactured there that finds its way into all around the planet.

    Same for India, like 70% of the world’s pharmaceuticals, there they are their precursors are manufactured in India.

    So when India got hit hard with COVID, it’s like, okay, there’s gonna be some products that are going to be short on the shelf for a while.

    Knowing that helps you run your marketing and helps you run your business better.

    So look at the macro trends from as many different points of view as you can try to look for, from expert points of view, not not mainstream media points of view, because, again, mainstream media just a, it’s late.

    And B, it just dilutes things to the point where it doesn’t make what they shared doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, particularly for very technical issues.

    GDPR, for example, and how that legislation works.

    I’ve seen a lot of coverage about GDPR in the regular news, and it’s generally dramatically over simplified to the point where it’s not helpful.

    So that’s how we stay current community of people to ask and ask questions to reputable sources, and following the right experts.

    Follow that template and for any field, you will be able to stay on top of what’s happening and not get caught by surprise.

    Not get caught by surprise.

    Well before anybody else.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Diversity and Inclusion in Agencies?

    You Ask, I Answer: Diversity and Inclusion in Agencies?

    Molly asks, “Would you say that most agencies who want to support inclusive marketing or “sell it” don’t really have an inclusive/diverse organization?”

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    Christopher Penn 0:12

    In today’s episode, Molly asks, Would you say that most agencies who want to support inclusive marketing or sell it, don’t really have an inclusive or diverse organization? Oh, Molly.

    This is one of my favorite bones to pick about a lot of agencies, particularly in marketing, PR and advertising.

    They are very strongly monocultures.

    It’s not just a lack of diversity is a monoculture of people.

    monoculture of thinking, a monoculture of behavior and values.

    When you look, go to the go

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    to the top three PR agencies or the top three marketing agencies in your city, go to the team page, go to the leadership page, and look around and just do some counting, particularly if you are an area where you know, the demographic distributions.

    For example, years ago, I worked at an email marketing company.

    And it was based in Atlanta.

    And if you looked at the leadership page of this company, it was 80%, male and 100% White.

    Now, if you know anything about Atlanta, Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia, is an extremely diverse city, but the majority population is black.

    Right? So if an organization was representative of the population that it was serving, it would also be majority black.

    Right? And there wasn’t out of 75 people on staff there was not a single black

    person at that agency.

    And when I asked

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    them about this, how we couldn’t find any qualified candidates, I’m sorry, this is a city of what a million people, 2 million people, you can’t find one person here.

    That doesn’t look like you that can’t do the job that you do, which by the way, is just attend meetings all day and drink coffee.

    Pretty sure I can find a whole bunch of people who could do that.

    No, Molly, you are 100%.

    Right.

    There is a very, very distinct a lack of diversity, particularly at the leadership levels in marketing, advertising and PR agencies.

    And again, just do the leadership test, Go to the principal’s page, go to the the leadership page on any agency’s website

    and tally up the numbers, right, who is there? Now,

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    should you be hiring people just because they are like Korean? For example? No, you should still be hiring qualified people.

    But there are so many biases,

    extrinsic and intrinsic biases that

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    we have not solved in hiring, we have not solved the hiring, even those solutions exist.

    We have not solved because organizations by and large, don’t seem willing to

    make a commitment to that

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    to those changes.

    And yes, some things take time, right? If you’ve got an agency that’s been around for 70 years, right, you’re probably still waiting for the last generation or two generations to retire.

    But your mid level management should be more diverse, right? Because as as time goes on, that mid level management gets higher and higher, and eventually should represent the place and the talent pool it draws from.

    For an agency that was started, say in the last 20 years agency started in the 21st century, there is no excuse for a lack of diversity.

    None.

    We have known that diversity and inclusion is important.

    McKinsey has written a number of studies saying that, that diverse and inclusive organizations are more profitable, right? So I believe in it was like a 2017 study that said that on average, organizations with diverse and inclusive leadership were 14% more profitable than organizations of monocultures which again is not a huge surprise, right? The more different viewpoints you have in the boardroom, the more solutions or potential solutions you have to be able to draw from right if you’ve got people who are black who are female, who are non binary, who are American Indian, who are East Asian Indian, if you’ve got people who are old people who are young people who have are gamers, people who are just I just gay.

    All these different backgrounds, all these different lived life experiences, how come with winning strategies, right? Someone who grew up Asian in an Asian culture has some winning strategies they take from their culture, someone who grew up Catholic has some winning strategies they take from their culture.

    Yeah, and you need as many of these as possible where you run into trouble is when you have a monoculture when everybody thinks the same, you then can’t come up with new ideas, you can’t come up with better ideas.

    When we look at things like machine learning and AI, these things are being trained on massive datasets that represent the scope of human experience.

    Right? So if you’re trying to, to match the outputs of what machines can do you to have to draw from the scope of human experience, not just from a segment of it, if you want to be competitive against what machines can do.

    So yes, I would say that there are a number of organizations, not just agencies, either, all companies again, go to the leadership page of any company and look at the breakouts, what percentage of the the leadership of a company is one gender or another, right? If you represented the population, it should probably be about 4040 20 40%, identifying as male 40%, identifying as female, and about 20% that chooses not to identify, if you look at the statistics about Gen Z, in particular, the first generation that has felt the freedom to express themselves by non traditional gender constructs at work up to 20 to 25% of them don’t identify with a classical heteronormative role.

    So just on that basis alone, you look at the leadership page, and you should see that level of representation if an agency that says it’s diverse and inclusive, is doing it now, if an agency does not make that claim, an agency says no, we don’t care about diversity, or, you know, they just don’t mention it, then, yeah, I would say you don’t have to call them on it, because they’re not.

    They’re not saying that they’re not saying something that they aren’t.

    Right.

    If on the other hand, you have an agency that loudly proclaims, you know, they’re talking about diversity inclusion, and they support black lives matter.

    That’s good.

    We want them to do that, well, people to do that.

    But then you look at the leadership page, and there’s zero black people, they’re like, Okay,

    well,

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    you need to do some more work, you need to do some work to get to the point where the people that you claim to represent are, in fact, actually part and parcel of the business.

    And then those not easier, right? It is not easy to change cultures, it is not easy to move people in the direction that the culture overall is moving.

    There are a lot of folks who don’t see the value in it.

    And there are some folks who believe that greater diversity inclusion means less opportunity for them, which, depending on their level of skill might be true, right? If you have if you open up a hiring pool to everybody.

    And you know, 40% of the hiring pool is terrific.

    And 20 to 60% is not and you’ve got somebody who’s in that 60% category.

    Yeah.

    There, there are fewer seats available for people who are who don’t meet the qualifications regard and they might have this is the difference, they might have had a chance previously when you excluded large groups of people, right? If you excluded

    all women, for example, then yeah, by definition that

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    that person with mediocre to poor skills might have slipped in under the radar, because they were, you know, there were a few people candidates available to fill those seats.

    Once you open the exam, say, hey, let’s try hiring from the other 50% of the population.

    The overall talent pool rises, the number of competent people in the talent pool rises, and employers have their choice of an overall bigger part of highly qualified people.

    And so all those people who are in the less qualified part, they are gonna get left out.

    And so it then

    creates an

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    onus of responsibility on those individuals to skill up, to skill up to get better at what they do whatever it is that you do.

    So that you’re more competitive in the global workplace.

    The biggest threat

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    and I’m gonna say this real carefully, but the biggest threat is not diversity or inclusion.

    The biggest threat is machine learning and AI for a lot of roles, because right now machines can do mediocre work.

    And if your skills are below mediocre, your career is in danger not from a woman or both.

    Black person or Korean or gay person, it’s under threat from a machine that will do your job, or good chunks of your job for pennies on the dollar of what you cost as a human.

    If companies are, continue to

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    be highly profit motivated, which in a capitalist economy, they will be the machines are going to be your first choice, not the diversity, hire the machine because the machine doesn’t get sick, the machine doesn’t catch COVID, the machine doesn’t show up drunk, the machine just does its job, right.

    And that’s going to be the biggest challenge for people in any industry in the next 20 years.

    So you got to get skilled up again, not to be saying that a diversity hire or something is is taking your position, but the machines will be the machines absolutely will be.

    And this holds true for everybody, regardless of your background, regardless of your ethnicity, or your sexual orientation or whatever.

    We are all in a race to become better, because our machines are becoming better.

    So diversity and inclusion is something that is absolutely important.

    It is the critical path to getting to better results because of diversity of thought.

    It is one of your few insurance policies against the machines because again, a wider body of thought means better, more unorthodox solutions that machines have not seen before yet.

    And if you say you’re gonna be if you say you’re diverse, be diverse if you if you if you talk the talk, you got to walk the walk.

    That’s just the way that works.

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    Good question.

    We could spend a whole lot of time on this a whole lot of time, but that’s a good place to leave it for now.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI Writing Tools?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Writing Tools?

    Harry asks, “Have you managed to make AI writing an efficient tool? Which one do you use?”

    You Ask, I Answer: AI Writing Tools?

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    In today’s episode, Harry asks, Have you managed to make AI writing an efficient tool? Which one do you use? So that’s a good question.

    There are two tools and models that I use for text generation using artificial intelligence.

    The two models are open API’s GPT.

    Three, particularly the DaVinci model, and the Neo GBT Neo x 20.

    B from Ulithi AI.

    Both of these models are extremely large models that have been designed to generate text pretty accurately, pretty, pretty well.

    And I run I run the Da Vinci model and open AI is playground, I run the Neo X model in Google colab.

    So Google has its colab development environment.

    And I have on the pro version, so it’s like $10 a month to use.

    It’s important, I think, to to understand these models, when we say an AI model, a text generation model, what we’re really saying is piece of software, a model is a piece of software that a machine wrote for itself.

    So we humans gave it the entire works of the Library of Congress to read, write and to predict patterns from and the model is what results it’s think about an AI model, when it comes to writing tools, like a machine’s version of Microsoft Word, like you and I have a human version of Microsoft Word which we write in.

    The machines have their version two, except their version doesn’t have an interface.

    There’s no There’s no need for one.

    And it has billions of examples of writing so that it can create written content reasonably quickly and reasonably easily.

    For applications, what I use these models most for is actually have is I realize this is a bit like taking out a Porsche 911 to the grocery store.

    I use it for breaking writer’s block.

    So I will take a piece of text that I’m working on, maybe I’ve got a paragraph or two, I just don’t know where to go with it.

    I will paste that into one of these tools and say, okay, autocomplete the rest, try and write the next 1000 words.

    And I will see what the machine comes up with.

    And more often than not, the machine will come up with something that I don’t approve of I know that’s not where I was going with this.

    But that’s enough to break writer’s block for me to go.

    Okay, what I really wanted to say was this, not what this machine wrote.

    And that almost sort of kicks me into editing mode to fix the machines errors.

    And that is enough to break that writer’s block and to get me back on track.

    Or sometimes it will create something and I’ll say, Oh, I didn’t think about that.

    I didn’t think we’re going that direction.

    And so I will then take that, essentially kind of a prompt, if you will, and use it to jumpstart my writing.

    The one thing I don’t do with these tools is I don’t have them try to create something net new from scratch, right? I don’t give them a single line prompt, like write an article about the importance of machine learning and AI.

    The content they create is too repetitive.

    It’s not new.

    It’s not noteworthy, it’s not original.

    The assembly the the sequence of words that it creates may be original and unique.

    But the thinking is not original or unique.

    The thinking is recycled thinking from all the works that it’s drawn on.

    So I don’t use it to to create net new content from whole cloth.

    It’s just not there yet.

    Can it get there probably, there are some technical hurdles that the implementers of these models need to overcome to make them be able to generate coherent, longer form text.

    One of the big limitations is they have no memory, which means that as they’re creating text, they can’t remember what they’ve written.

    And so they can get caught in loops.

    And they can just say the same thing over and over again in different ways, which admittedly, humans do that too.

    Right? If you’ve ever read your own term papers you wrote in college at like 2am After three days of not sleeping like oh, yeah, I repeated myself a bunch of times here too.

    But obviously machines are not out drinking till 3am.

    So those are the models I use.

    And those are the ways in which I use them.

    I use them as as writer’s block breakers, idea generators.

    But for the most part, I’m still writing 90% of the copy, right? Because what the machines come up With more often than not is not where I was going to go.

    But I needed something to get me over whatever block I was facing.

    So your mileage may vary depending on the content you’re

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    writing.

    I have used the GPT models to generate press releases as a proof of concept as an example, not for anything in production.

    And they create really good press releases.

    I mean, as good as a press release can beat right press releases are still boring.

    And they’re highly templated which is why machines are so good at them.

    So I’ve used it for that as well as as a demonstration but in production, it really is just the writing and editing.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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