Author: Christopher S Penn

  • Almost Timely News, 10 April 2022: Ownership, Women-Owned Agencies, Leadership Q&A

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    What’s On My Mind: What Do You Own?

    This past week, I had a chance to interview Christy Hiler, president of the Cornett ad agency and co-founder of the Own It movement, a platform for encouraging more women-owned agencies in the marketing space.

    After the interview – as is usually the case – I thought up something else we should have talked about, so I’ll talk about it with you instead. Here’s the big question:

    What do you own?

    Whether you have a company, whether you’re just starting out in your career, the question I – we – need to ask ourselves on a regular and frequent basis is what do we own? What is ours, uniquely ours?

    Why does this matter? My friend and former employer Todd Defren once quipped quite correctly that only owners make money. In any situation, in any business or industry, the owners are the ones who make money. Employees by and large do not receive large earn-outs when the company gets sold. At best, you have an employee stock ownership program that will give you a meaningful sum of money should the company be purchased, but those are relatively rare.

    If you own something, you have the ability to make money with it, by selling it in some capacity to others. Obviously, this is contingent on others seeing value in it, but ownership is the first step in that process.

    So, what do you own?

    Now, your first inclination, your first knee-jerk response to that question is that in a professional context, you probably own nothing. (unless, like Christy, you own the company) But that’s not true, strictly speaking. Even if you’ve only been in your role for a year, even if you’ve never put any serious effort into building your own platform, it still exists.

    Let’s look at a few examples.

    Do you have a blog? You own that content. It’s yours, irrelevant of whether it has one reader or one million. The same is true for a podcast and other media.

    Do you have a newsletter? You own the content for your newsletter and access to your audience. I own this newsletter and for brands who want to advertise to you, I own this particular channel. (note that I do not own you, obviously, just a tiny sliver of your very valuable attention, for which I am thankful)

    Do you have a process? Again, even if you’ve been in a job for not too long, you’ve probably made a few tweaks here and there that help you do your job better. Those little fixes add up over time, until you have a unique way of doing what you do that makes you more valuable than other employees doing the same job.

    One of my favorite examples of this is a marketing cookbook. What recipes do you know in marketing and business? What processes have you memorized and documented so that you do your job better? Here’s an example, a snapshot of a slide deck I keep called a golden cookbook. It’s got hundreds of frameworks, ideas, and processes that I’ve come up with in my career, and it’s something totally unique to me, something I own.

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    Do you have knowledge? You own what’s in your head – what to do, why you do something, how you do it – and that knowledge is valuable. Ask anyone who’s ever had a valued employee quit how much it hurts to replace that employee. Not only are their skills and processes gone, but so is their institutional knowledge.

    Do you have a personal brand? Personal brands have appropriately gotten a bit of a bad rap because many of the folks promoting “personal branding initiatives” come across as used car salesmen encouraging you to be just like them. The reality is a personal brand is little more than your reputation – and you own your reputation.

    Do you have intellectual property? This is anything you create, really. If you write, draw, compose, video, dance, sculpt, carve… anything that becomes manifest in the world as a result of your creativity is intellectual property. As long as it’s outside of work, you own that. It’s yours.

    When we take a step back from our day to day lives and think about ownership, we realize we own a lot more than we think we do. The process of ownership begins with the realization that you already own things, possibly things of value. We can and should talk in a future newsletter about how you turn what you own into tangible value, but the first step in that process is, forgive the pun, taking ownership of being an owner.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Struggling Leaders?

    You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Struggling Leaders?

    Conor asks, “What advice would you give to business leaders who are feeling daunted by the decision making process?”

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    What advice would you give to business leaders who are feeling daunted by the decision making process? Well I guess there’ll be two main points of focus first, to the extent that you can pivot to data driven decision making, which is where you make decisions with data first, the easiest way to draw an analogy for this is to think about Google Maps or the Maps app of your choice on your phone.

    When you put in a destination, say, give me directions.

    It you are making literal data driven decisions, because the app is taking into account things like traffic and road closures and all sorts of things, and providing you a route plus some alternatives to get to your destination.

    You decide as a leader, what is the destination, right? These apps are not terribly functional, if if you don’t put a destination, I mean, they show you what’s going on around you.

    But that’s about it.

    Once you put in a destination, and then you follow the directions that the app is giving you based on the data it has, you are making data driven decisions.

    Literally, you’re driving based on on data, which some people are very comfortable with other people or not.

    Other people would rather make decisions based on emotion, or intuition or experience.

    And those are those are less effective if you’ve got good data, then data driven decision making.

    So first identify what kind of decision maker you are, can you be a data driven decision maker, can you be someone who can make a decision based on what the data says even if you emotionally disagree with it? Right? If you can’t, then don’t pivot to being a data driven decision making organization and recognize that you have a vulnerability.

    Because your competitors who can make decisions based on data, even if those decisions are unfavorable or or emotionally, dissatisfying will probably do better in the long run.

    Second, would be make sure that whatever it is you’re doing as an organization, you are collecting good data, right? Part of the reason why data driven decision making is not as effective as it should be is because you’re making decisions based on data that’s not as good as it could be.

    If you have bad ingredients, no matter how good a chef you are, no matter what how what appliances you own, or how fancy Your kitchen is, or how detailed your recipe is, or how fancy your menu is, if your ingredients are bad, you’re going to be cooking bad food, right? There’s no two ways around it.

    Right? If, if you have sand instead of flour in your pantry, I don’t care how good a chef you are, your breads going to taste like sand.

    And so if you’re making decisions with data and your data quality is bad, you are going to make bad decisions.

    Right? There’s there’s no way to turn bad data into good decision making absolutely none.

    So the second piece of advice I would say is make sure that your data is in great condition, so that you can make data driven decisions.

    Even if you take sort of a middle ground approach what a lot of people like to call data guided or data informed.

    Again, if your data is not any good, even those approaches will fail.

    And people don’t adopt data driven decision making because they’re uncomfortable with their data.

    They don’t trust it.

    So make sure that your data is trustworthy first and that will go a long ways towards reducing the intimidation of essentially handing off part of your decisioning process to machines.

    Right? Not the whole thing, but part of it.

    And again, like the maps example, you still set the destination, right? The data helps you get there.

    But you have to be the one to set the destination and you are in control of what that destination is.

    So part of being daunted by data driven decisioning maybe because you think you have to give up control of the entire process.

    You don’t you only have to give up control of the navigation.

    You are still in charge of the destination


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  • You Ask, I Answer: The Most Important Business Decision?

    You Ask, I Answer: The Most Important Business Decision?

    Conor asks, “It would be great to hear about an important business decision you’ve made in your career – the pre-considerations, your thought process, the steps you took to put the decision into action and the key takeaways.”

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    Probably the most impactful decision I’ve ever had to make is the founding of Trust Insights.

    My business partner, and I, Katie, we work together at a PR agency.

    Katie was actually my direct report at the time.

    And we saw that the agency we worked at at the time was going in a different direction than we wanted to.

    It was focused on objectors we didn’t agree with.

    We found ourselves taking on clients that we had moral objections to, we thought, but some of those clients, their businesses, fundamentally made the world a worse place rather than a better place.

    And so a combination of data points that suggested that the business was going in the wrong direction, plus some emotional points of view told us it was time to take the big leap.

    One of the big considerations to that while there were several.

    One was, did we have something viable to offer the world that would be worth paying for and the fact that the team that we ran was the most profitable team in the agency had three of the five largest clients and represented? Probably 20% of the entire company’s revenue told us yeah, there’s a way to build our business.

    So that we could take the things we learned at the agency, but recast them to be our Central Focus, focus on management, consulting, data science, machine learning, artificial intelligence, analytics, and leave behind the awkward sort of juxtaposition of a profession that fundamentally is not data driven, trying to make that mesh with data driven processes.

    So that was the decision itself.

    Some of the considerations that went into it, were things like, did we have an audience? Now, for the last, at the time, it was 10 years, when we were when we were starting to make these decisions.

    I had been building my personal brand, my personal audience of people who went to my website, sign up for my newsletter and stuff.

    And at the time, we launched, about, like, 50,000 subscribers to my newsletter, we felt like, Okay, that’s enough of a pool, that when we make the announcement, there’ll be enough people interested in our products and services that we could survive.

    We looked at our personal savings, our personal finances, we looked at potential projected revenues and things and decided, yeah, it would be tough for a couple of years, for sure.

    That’d be tight for a couple years.

    But there was enough there enough momentum already in place, that it wouldn’t be starting from ground zero, it wouldn’t be starting with nothing, it’d be starting with the ability to bootstrap.

    One of the things that went that happened early on was, as we were forming the ideas of the company, we’re trying to figure out how to do our funding.

    And we actually pitched investors early on for the company, and found that the investment community itself was very reticent to invest in a services focused business, they were looking for product focused businesses, because it’d be easier to invest and see returns faster, flip them faster.

    And two of the nine investors we pitched were absolutely morally reprehensible people, it turns out, they told us to our faces, which credit to them for being honest, I suppose that they would not invest in a business with a CEO was female, which was just offensive.

    And so that, that changed how we ran the business and how we’re going to fund it to basically being a bootstrap business where we would not accept outside funding, Katie, and I would retain full ownership of the business.

    And that would be how we would approach things like the finances.

    And so in March of 2018, we took the leap, and we we left the old company, we started we hung out a shingle, and the first year was definitely tough.

    But after that, we got some momentum.

    We got some focus.

    We really dug into what we were good at.

    And now four years later, we are a thriving, successful business.

    We are we closed our first million dollars of revenue not too long ago.

    We are looking to make our first annual million dollar revenue very very soon.

    Which is not bad for you You know, a business with two owners and and one contract salesperson.

    Christopher Penn 5:06

    And the business model that we have now is part software part consulting.

    And so we expect to be able to scale the software side of things, along with some training courses and things that we’re putting together to really grow the business substantially in the next couple of years.

    And again, because it’s funny, those investors that declined to invest were a blessing in disguise.

    Because as we grow the business to being first a seven figure business than an eight figure business, hopefully a nine figure business, we didn’t have to give up any ownership, we didn’t have to, to give away any decision making capability to other to third parties, we are accountable only to ourselves.

    And we get to keep the the the profits, which is also really nice.

    So in some ways, those those investors who said no, really were a blessing in disguise, it really were.

    And so the key takeaways for a big decision is you’ve got to do an inventory, what do you have? What, what data do you need to make a decision? Use your Eisenhower matrix or your Franklin index, whatever methodology take into account the emotions, you know, as I said, one of the big challenges early on, was dealing with taking on clients that you know, at the old at the old company that we found morally objectionable.

    When you start a new business, we codified it’s funny, we codified all the things that we didn’t like, in the old company.

    We said we don’t like this, we don’t like this, we don’t like this, then we took the reverse and said, Here’s what we do.

    Like, here’s what we do want to do, and made that part of a corporate core values to say these are the things we stand for, and the things we won’t put up with.

    Because otherwise, why bother? Right? Build a business that you want to work at because there’s a good chance especially if you’re going to be making a decision like this, that you will be working at it for a very long time.

    The idea of building a business and flipping in 18 months not realistic for most people nor you know for nor for someone like me would that be personally very satisfying want to build something and grow it and watch it grow.

    Your personality may differ of course.

    But that’s those are kind of the the way the story unfolded.

    It’s it’s still being written.

    But wouldn’t change a thing.

    wouldn’t change a thing.


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  • Mind Readings: Taxes are Subscriptions

    Mind Readings: Taxes are Subscriptions

    Instead of thinking about taxes as levies and fines we pay in a punitive sense, what would it look like if we regarded them the same way we do a Netflix subscription?

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    In today’s mind readings, I was reading an article about some tax changes and stuff.

    It’s that time of year, it’s April as I record this, and of course, a lot of folks making a trying to score political points by arguing for or against certain taxes and things.

    And it got me thinking, if we want to be able to fund stuff that matters, we might be looking at taxes as really just a branding problem, right? What if we tackled it as a branding problem, instead of taxes being seen as this punitive thing like, Oh, you must give your due to, to the government? What if you consider taxes essentially as a subscription, right? Imagine that citizenship to a nation was a subscription grant, it’s very hard to change providers, right? It’s a lot easier to go from Netflix to Hulu than it is to go from America to Canada, or from, you know, Ukraine to Germany.

    But when you do, you’re changing who you pay your taxes to, right, you’re essentially changing your subscription by picking up and moving from one spot to another.

    But more than that, when we think of a subscription, we think about what are we getting for our money? Right? So if I pay 999 to Netflix a month, what do I get? I get, you know, unlimited views of certain types of videos.

    If I add on the DVD rental add on, I get, you know, to rent DVDs for like the five people who still on DVD players.

    When I subscribe to Disney plus, what do I get out of that? Well, I get different content, I get content that’s, you know, Star Wars, for example, if I subscribe to, you know, CBS All Access, like at Star Trek.

    And so we look at all these different subscription services and way, what are the benefits? What are the things that I’m getting out of? What I’m paying, you know, 999 a month for whatever.

    If you think about your taxes, you know, if you’re paying 25% of your income, and say you make 1,000 a month, you’re paying250 A month as a subscription to a government, right? What are you getting for your subscription, what’s included in your subscription, you know, roads, national security, right? Hopefully, your your, your subscription includes things like police and fire fire departments, to to solve disasters and stuff like that.

    electrical lines, some regulations, things like Weights and Measures, so that when you go to the gas station, and you put fuel in your car, assuming you have a car that burns gasoline, when the Meet the meter says you’ve put nine gallons in your car, you’ve actually got nine gallons worth of gasoline, because someone from weights and measures is certified that the pumps are not crooked.

    So what are all the things that you get in a subscription for your taxes? And then if you don’t like what’s included in your subscription, what are your choices? You can and people do petition governments to change how they do things.

    And sometimes it goes, well, sometimes it doesn’t often, it takes a really long time, for any kind of change to go through, which is actually probably a good thing.

    Because governments moving in the fevered pitch of a mob is never a good thing.

    And so you then have to start looking around and saying, Well, are there other services out there? That if I paid about the same amount for a subscription? Would I get more of what I wanted? Right? So or if you say like, you know, I really don’t want to pay 25% of my income, are there other services, aka governments, other nations where I could pay less of my income to pay less for my subscription to citizenship? And There absolutely are there are some nations which are known as tax havens and stuff and you can pay a lot less money, you do have to live there.

    And you get different services.

    Right? If you move to a nation, say like Sweden or Denmark, you know, your your subscription fees are a lot higher, they are France, your subscription fees are a lot higher, but you also get very different things right in the American subscription.

    The things on the subscription plan that aren’t included like health care, and the French subscription, you get universal health care, right.

    If you get sick you can you can get medical help and not have to worry about how you’re going to pay for it.

    If you want to pursue higher education, you can do that and not have to think about how Are you going to pay for it or take hundreds of 1000s of dollars out in loans to pay for it?

    Christopher Penn 5:05

    If you reframe citizenship as a subscription and put it in a modern context, because very often we talk about these things, as you know, in the same language as they were written in, in legal documents, 250 years ago, if you upgrade the language around it, it suddenly becomes a lot more comprehensible to people to say, Oh, well, I’m paying this.

    And here’s what I get in my subscription and do what am I happy with that if I’m not happy with that, I could try to make some changes, which is valid, why can change providers, and you relocate.

    And as the world becomes more global, as the internet allows us to see snapshots of everyday life, in other nations, we might want to say at some point, yeah, you know what, I’m not thrilled with this subscription.

    And I’m going to cancel it.

    And I’m going to, to change providers, I’m going to go from, you know, a country that has no universal health care, and then spends 27 cents on every dollar for a defense budget, maybe I will move to a nation which spends, you know, 11% on this defense budget and spends, you know, 34%, on on social services, maybe you want to move to a place you like, if you’re not happy with the weapons laws in a place like you want to be able to own and operate, you know, more and bigger and cooler weapons.

    There are plenty of countries on Earth where that would be included in your subscription, there’ll be other things missing.

    So you’d have to figure out whether or not those trade offs are worth it.

    But in reframing the problem as instead of one, where we assume that national identity is part of our personal identity.

    If we change it to thinking about a subscription service, then it frees us to think more about where else could we be living closer to the quality of life and the things that we care about.

    In our lives, while we while we are able to do so, if we unwind and remove sort of national identity from our personal identities, then you start to see, okay, I can move around, I can change subscriptions, right? We have this sort of notion of national pride.

    And when you think again, about in terms of subscription service, this just sounds kind of weird.

    Like, I’m really proud to be a Netflix subscriber.

    I mean, I pay Netflix, but I say I’m proud.

    I don’t wear shirts with, you know, the Netflix logo on it.

    Or they haven’t sent me any.

    And yet, you also have lots of people who will have the colors of their nation or their flag or whatever on their clothing and stuff.

    And again, once we transition into a modern mindset, you go, that’s kind of weird, isn’t it? If it’s a, if my taxes are really just a subscription? Do I have a ton of loyalty towards the subscription provider? Or do I have more of a commercial relationship with them? Like, yeah, here’s the money for the subscription, you give me the stuff that I’m I’ve agreed to buy from you.

    And if you don’t give me those things, then I’m going to stop giving you my money, I’m going to find a different provider, there’s something like 192 nations on Earth, give or take, you know, plus or minus 10 or so maybe there’s a better place.

    Hell, maybe there’s a place that gets you more of what you want, for the money that you’re spending on the subscription fees.

    So something to think about something to mull over.

    And as we become more global citizens, as our kids grow up with services, like, you know, Discord, or Reddit or whatever, and they and they have friends in other nations.

    I think we will all change slowly what our, our AI personal identities are versus our national identities, and maybe, maybe start to ask more of our governments for what we’re getting for our subscription fees.

    give that some thought.

    Hope you have some thoughts of your own on this if you do to stick them in the comments whenever and I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Siloed Data Impact on AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Siloed Data Impact on AI?

    Heidi asks, “Are companies challenged in their adoption of AI by siloed data?”

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    In today’s episode, Heidi asks, are companies challenged in their adoption of AI by siloed data? I would say that it is certainly a contributing problem.

    But I think siloed data is a problem period, right? Regardless of whether we’re talking about AI or not, if we think about artificial intelligence really is just like a fancy kitchen appliance.

    And it does really cool stuff.

    Think about what siloed data would look like, suppose you were trying to cook in a kitchen, and there were some ingredients you had.

    And there are some ingredients that were in another part of the kitchen and you weren’t allowed to go in that part of the kitchen, right? Like, the the stuff in the refrigerator, you’re not allowed to go in there, you can’t go in the refrigerator.

    Like my supposed to make bread if I can’t get it, you know, the eggs or the milk or the yeast or things like that, I’ve got flour here, and then you start getting protective? Well, if I can’t go in the frigerator, you can’t come in my pantry.

    And you know, you can’t have flour, sugar or salt.

    Obviously, it’s going to be a really rough day in your, in your kitchen.

    If you start having these silos, these organizational divisions that prohibit people from sharing ingredients, data is an ingredient.

    And again, AI is just a fancy appliance, which means that if you have those silos, you’ve got problems that AI won’t solve, right? If you have, it doesn’t matter how fancy your new blender is, if you’ve got if you’re not allowed to go in the refrigerator, there’s a lot of things you can’t cook period, blender or no.

    And so from a, a structural perspective, companies need to get rid of silos as much as possible within practical and regulatory limits, if they want to be able to make use of the data for anything, not just for use with AI, but for anything at all.

    If you’re building a data warehouse, or a data lake, if you’re doing even basic, you know, pre machine learning stuff, if you’re just doing basic statistics, exploratory data analysis, you need to have access to the data to do that.

    And if there are silos, it’s going to be it’s going to be a rough time, there were there will be things like you know, if you’re not allowed in, in the, in the freezer section of your of your houses, kitchen, there’s gonna be some things you’re not allowed to do that.

    And that you will need, you will need access to.

    So here’s where artificial intelligence can help.

    Sometimes if if we make an AI project, fancy enough and flashy enough, you know, it’s the shiny new object in the room.

    Sometimes that can help break down organizational resistance.

    If AI is a strategic priority your company, you can go to somebody and say, oh, yeah, I know, you know, normally, we’re not going to access your, your sales data, or whatever.

    But for this project, we’d like to make an exception.

    And depending on the benefit to that division of the company, depending on the visibility at an executive or stakeholder level, sometimes you can use AI as an excuse to dig into those other silos of data and get stuff out of them.

    This happens a lot.

    We’ve had this happen a lot with analytics projects, big analytics projects, where ironically, as a consulting firm Trust Insights would have access to more of the company’s data than any individual one department did.

    Because we were an outside neutral third party.

    And so we’re just like, oh, yeah, we’re just gonna use this data for this project.

    Meanwhile, we had better visibility into the entirety of of what was happening at a company and be able to share back with those divisions, hey, here’s what else is going on at the company.

    It’s kind of like, kind of like being the data and AI equivalent of a bartender right? Everybody comes to the bartender and confesses their their woes individually.

    And you as the bartender, you have, you know, hear everybody’s stories and go, yeah, and you’re thinking, Oh, Ralph here has got the exact same problems as Bob over there.

    And she was always there, she’s got her problems and stuff.

    And you all don’t know that you each have the solutions to each other’s problems.

    Because you don’t talk to each other, you just talk to the bartender.

    So AI can be used as an excuse to get into other silos.

    And then ideally, what you do is you show benefit to sharing data that goes above and beyond the scope of the AI project itself.

    So that it persuades those those silos those departments like hey, if you share your data, things will be a lot easier for both groups, both groups will benefit.

    The worst case I’ve ever seen of this was just blew my mind.

    We had A B2B tech company a few years back as a client, and we were called in to build a model of their marketing data,

    Christopher Penn 5:10

    combining marketing and sales data to help them essentially figure out which channels mattered the most.

    When we got in there, we were told, here’s the marketing data, for regulatory reasons, some data that we can’t get about our own company that we can’t like the market department, and we can’t get it.

    So not that we won’t share it with you, we can’t get a hold of it, can you see if you can get it from the outside, we were able to do that.

    And then we asked for the sales data so that we could calibrate the marketing data with the sales data to say, Okay, if you have all these things, and this is the outcome you’re after, and the VP of sales is like, Nope, can’t have that data.

    We’re like, why not? Because marketing is not allowed to see sales data.

    Like, how do you get anything done? Then like, how do you communicate to marketing? Hey, you know, these programs are driving leads are not driving leads, and like we don’t know, like, so.

    You just wing it? And except whatever leads marketing sends you and it’s like, no, no, we don’t we don’t do that.

    Whatever marketing sends is incremental, our sales guys all just cold call everybody all day.

    Like, I feel like, I feel like that might not be the best way to do things.

    It turns out, this came out.

    After our engagement, that sales was so poor at its job, their closing rate was so bad, that they didn’t want anybody to know just how bad things were internally, there’s their sales closing rate for, you know, good sized commercial enterprise deals was something like about 1% of every out of every 100 opportunities that were teed up, there’s the sales tour and closed one of them.

    And so there was a lot of obviously house cleaning and personnel changes and things.

    We didn’t have anything to do with it, because we were long gone to that point.

    But I remember reading in the news about this company, because it’s pretty well known company that they had run into some revenue issues.

    And I’ve had a few quarters.

    And I’m like, Huh, I wonder that is because y’all are flying blind and have no idea what you know, the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing.

    So there are definitely challenges posed by siloed data AI is no different than any other function or any other technique used to turn data into insights.

    It is hampered more by missing data.

    But if a company’s got siloed data and rigorous boundaries between departments, it’s got problems already, right.

    And AI will not solve those problems.

    It will just make those problems.

    bigger and faster.

    Right.

    That’s what AI does makes things go faster and bigger.

    And you know, if you have solutions that will make your solutions faster and big, if it makes you have problems it will highlight and make your problems faster and bigger too.

    So really good question.

    Thanks for asking.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Challenges Preventing AI in Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Challenges Preventing AI in Marketing?

    Heidi asks, “What challenges keep you from examining and/or using AI for your current marketing?”

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    In today’s episode, Heidi asks, What challenges keep you from examining and or using AI for your current marketing? Oh, I, we don’t really have that problem, because we do use AI for a lot of our current marketing.

    But let’s take this from the perspective of, say, a client, there are a bunch of different challenges that can keep a company from using artificial intelligence.

    First, and probably most fundamental is bad data, right? So if the data that the company is working with is bad if it’s in bad shape, if it’s, you know, in also the wild and crazy, wacky formats, if it’s in hard to access systems, it becomes very difficult to use that data for predictive purposes, or even just for classification purposes to figure out what data do we have.

    And this becomes really relevant when you’re doing something like for example, attribution analysis.

    If you have missing data from your attribution analysis, and you’re doing really big model something using maybe like Markov chains, or certain types of decay models, were even just multiple regression models.

    And you’ve got missing data data that is important, but you don’t know that it’s missing, you can build an attribution model that will not be correct, right? It will be something we’ll be off.

    And you may or may not know that it’s off.

    So in in cooking terms, if you were to think about it, some cooking terms, imagine baking a recipe or baking a cake, and you leave out an ingredient.

    And it seems like it’s okay, but in fact, it’s not.

    Okay.

    Right.

    So maybe you’re making chocolate cake, and you leave out the cocoa and you have something at the end that’s edible, right.

    And it’s, it tastes like cake.

    It just doesn’t taste like chocolate cake.

    And if you’re doing something like unsupervised learning, where you don’t know what you what’s in the box, you may think, oh, yeah, this is vanilla cake.

    And in fact, it’s supposed to be chocolate cake, but you don’t know that you missing the cocoa.

    And so that’s an example where bad data in this case, missing data can have a substantial impact on the model.

    The second thing that causes issues, and sometimes very substantial issues, is thinking about artificial intelligence as a solution.

    Artificial Intelligence is a set of tools, right? Think about? Imagine if we as business folks, we talked about AI the same way we talked about spreadsheets, right? We go around saying, Well, should we use a spreadsheet for this? Maybe this is a spreadsheet problem.

    Let’s let’s, let’s try using spreadsheets for this.

    And you get how silly that sounds, right? If you’re dealing with something like say, you know, public relations stuff, like writing a better media pitches, spreadsheets, probably not going to help you do better writing, right? It may help you categorize say, the prospects that you’re pitching, but an unlikely spreadsheets going to help you write a better pitch.

    A word processor wouldn’t be the better choice.

    And so one of the things that happens with artificial intelligence is that people think that it is a solution when it really is just a tool, right? It’s if you’re in the kitchen, and you’ve got a blender and a food processor and a toaster and stuff like that.

    Do you say well, what can I use my toaster for today? No, I mean, you probably don’t think appliance first, when you’re cooking, right? You think about objective first I want bacon and eggs, I want a pizza, I want sushi.

    I want you know something along those lines.

    And then you reverse engineer based on what you want.

    Do you have the ability to make that dish, right? If you don’t have rice, and you don’t have a rice cooker or some means of cooking rice, you’re not having sushi, right? If you don’t have a blender, you’re probably not having a smoothie.

    I mean, you could but it’s got to be a lot of work.

    And so

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    if we think of AI as essentially a fancy appliance, then suddenly it is less about using the technology like I’ve got to use this convection oven.

    No, no, you’ve got to make a dish that you want to eat.

    And then maybe AI is the right choice.

    Maybe it’s not.

    Generally speaking, artificial intelligence is really good at problems that have a lot of complexity and a lot of data and a lot of data.

    So if you are dealing with a problem that doesn’t have a lot of data, AI may not be the right choice for it.

    Right AI may be the wrong choice for that problem.

    In fact, there are certain problems where AI makes things more complicated, right? Where it’s just not the right fit.

    It’s like trying to use a blender to make an omelet.

    I mean, you can, but it’s not going to taste very good.

    You’re much better off using a frying pan.

    So those would be the major challenges where I think people run into trouble.

    When companies are hesitant to adopt AI, it’s because they don’t understand the technology itself.

    Right? So getting a kitchen appliance, you don’t know what it does, you’re probably not going to use it for your big dinner party, right? You’re probably going to take some time and say, Okay, let’s let’s see about maybe using something we know.

    And so, if we want to encourage more adoption of AI, we’ve got to simplify people’s understanding of what it does, right? If you take apart your blender, this can be all sorts of stuff, their controllers, chips, solenoids, you know, depending on how fancy your blender is, do you need to know how an electromagnetic motor works.

    Now, you just need to know what the blender does and what it’s good at and what’s not good at right? The inner workings really aren’t as big a deal.

    AI is very similar, right? You don’t need to know how a neural network works, you need to know is the right appliance for the job.

    And to do that you’ve got to have problems that are well suited for using AI.

    So those would be my my challenges that I think people struggle with.

    With artificial intelligence.

    The rest of it really is just math.

    It’s just math and data.

    So if you can grasp the strategic uses and the conceptual uses, the implementation is relatively straightforward.

    Not easy, but straightforward.

    It’s not overly complicated once for most marketing problems.

    So really good question.


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    What’s On My Mind: What’s the Purpose of Analytics?

    What’s the purpose of analytics?

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    Got an answer? Here are a few from Twitter:

    • “The purpose of analytics is to unlock something useful from data.”
    • “The purpose of analytics is to turn data into information and information into insight.”
    • “The purpose of analytics is to find your way to the right product and market before the money runs out.”
    • “The purpose of analytics is to get something out of it in order to make useful.”
    • “The purpose of analytics is to catch something not intuitive.”

    Here’s my room-temperature take, because it’s not a hot take at all: the purpose of analytics is to help you make better decisions. That’s it. Analytics tells us what happened; insights tells us why, and then it’s on us to use that information to make better decisions going forward.

    So why is the answer to this question often so convoluted and complicated? I suppose you could argue that some of it is consultants needing to sound expensive, but it’s really because people don’t know what to do with data.

    Let’s take Google Analytics, for example – especially the new Google Analytics 4. What is its purpose? To provide you with data as a raw ingredient to make better digital marketing decisions. Now, we can debate how well it does that, but that’s its functional purpose.

    Which means that Google Analytics purpose isn’t to make decisions for you. It isn’t even to tell you why customers did what they did. As an analytics tool, its purpose is to tell you what happened. When you look at the interface, at all the buttons and widgets and everything, that’s what it’s designed to do.

    You, as the user, are expected to take that data and do something with it to improve your decision-making. It’s like a kitchen pantry. Google Analytics provides the ingredients. It’s now up to you, the chef, to turn those ingredients into a final dish that’s edible, because no one wants a plate of uncooked wheat flour for dinner.

    Where we run into trouble as marketers, decision-makers, and stakeholders is when we expect tools to do more than they’re designed to do. Google Analytics – and EVERY true analytics tool on the market – will not make decisions for you, any more than the bag of flour in your kitchen is going to do the cooking for you. Every analytics vendor in the world tells you that their tools will help you make better decisions, and they’re all lying.

    Well, they’re all lying in the same way that every kitchen appliance vendor tells you their appliance will make you a better chef. They may do some things better or make some tasks easier, but if you’re an idiot in the kitchen, there’s no difference between a 50 dollar blender and a 500 dollar blender. You’re still going to make inedible garbage.

    When it comes to choosing an analytics strategy (and subsequently analytics vendors), the question isn’t what tool to use. The question is, what decisions are you trying to improve or inform? And if your decision-making process is immune to improvement – like when you have an executive who simply wings it – then it doesn’t matter what tool you use at all.

    Why bother learning analytics tools or becoming skilled in analytics, then? Because if you’re lucky enough to work for an organization that understands how to use them properly, you will make a lot of impact – and that usually translates into personal as well as organizational success. When you become really skilled at analytics, you understand the limitations of what tools can and can’t do. You learn what’s present and what’s missing in data. You learn where the blind spots are in every decision and you mitigate those as much as possible.

    And most of all, you learn to tell the difference about which decisions do need analytics support and which don’t. Values and moral decisions rarely need analytics support, for example. “Should we make a product that’s intentionally harmful to our customers?” or “Should we make a product that is incredibly destructive to the environment for nominal benefit to our customers?” don’t need a ton of data or analysis, just a functional sense of empathy and compassion.

    When you’re making decisions about your analytics strategy, tactics, and tools, think first about how you use data and analytics now, what decisions need improving, and only then make choices like vendors and data sources. Decide on your menu and recipes before you go appliance and ingredient shopping, rather than buy a bunch of stuff and have no idea what to cook.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Opportunities and Hurdles for Leaders?

    You Ask, I Answer: Opportunities and Hurdles for Leaders?

    Conor asks, “What opportunities and/or hurdles do you see on the horizon in the next 6-12 months that will influence leaders decision making ability?”

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    What opportunities or hurdles Do you see on the horizon in the next six to 12 months that will influence leaders decision making ability? Well, gosh, where should we start with the ongoing pandemic, which still is an over the the presence of world war three, which is functionally what we’re in right now and in the middle of on a tactical level, most organizations are going to see impacts of the supply chain crisis, which started in the pandemic has been amplified by world by geopolitics.

    Everything on the on the Producer Price Index, everything on the on the supply side is getting more expensive, wages are going up.

    And that’s a good thing because people deserve to be paid, what they’re worth what the work is worth, that they do.

    And workers are at a point now in the their balance of power, where they can command pay that should have been commensurate with increases in GDP and productivity over the last 40 years.

    They’re essentially playing catch up, and companies are not prepared for this prices have to increase everything is going to be more expensive.

    Many things gonna be hard to get when you look, for example, at Import Export businesses.

    And what’s happening in supply chains, metals, like platinum, for example, which is one of the major exports of Ukraine prior to the invasion by Russia.

    That’s a very short supply that impacts automobiles and impacts the ability to make chips for computers, not snacks.

    That constrains two critical parts of major supply chains, they the technology piece, especially, which has all these downstream ripple effects.

    And so what this creates for leaders in their decision making ability is substantial uncertainty, uncertainty that cannot be modeled that cannot be forecast, because we don’t know what’s going to happen.

    One of the limitations of things like predictive analytics is that you can’t predict what has never happened.

    Right, you can predict things that have happened in the past, we have not had a, a, a World War of like conditions since 1945.

    Right? We have not had such a massive dislocation in the world economy at this scale with two large economic players

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    in most people’s living memory, and we certainly don’t have the level of data that we would need from past world wars to effectively model what’s happening now, particularly with things like supply chains.

    Globalization over the last 50 years, has made many economies interdependent and those those supply chains now proving to be very, very brittle, and very difficult to accommodate uncertainty.

    So that level of uncertainty is going to substantially impacted decision making abilities, leaders in businesses need to pivot very quickly to figure out how do you operate in more of a real time manner rather than a predictive manner, because you cannot forecast what has never happened.

    And therefore, you cannot make informed decisions in the long term.

    Because you’re working with data that doesn’t exist yet.

    We don’t know how the the Russian invasion of Ukraine is going to turn out.

    We don’t know, if Russia is going to remain under sanctions for weeks, months years, it’s it’s impossible to tell.

    We can’t forecast that.

    We don’t know what’s going to happen with the current variants of SARS-CoV-2, which is the virus that causes COVID 19, it is continuing to mutate, there’s continue to be 10s of 1000s of new cases per day, and every single time a new person is infected, there’s an opportunity for a game changing mutation.

    So that is the biggest hurdle and challenge for companies to deal with in the next six to 12 months.

    Those firms that are very agile, very nimble, and can make decisions that are sometimes strategic decisions and turn on a dime.

    Those companies will do well.

    What we saw during the early days of the pandemic is that there’s there’s resilience and agility.

    Resilience for endurance means that you can survive tough times, right? If you have a lot of cash in the bank, you could weather the pandemic for a good long time.

    But if your fundamental business model is impaired, then no matter how much cash you have in bank, if your cash flow is negative, you eventually run out of gas, right? You run out of money and you go out of business.

    So resilience is only half of the puzzle.

    agility is the other half those restaurants and those businesses that were able to pivot very, very quickly moved to takeout and delivery, for example, during the pandemic, or move to virtual classes online and deliver all their services digitally, and go through a rapid digital transformation.

    That agility meant that they had to rely be less resilient.

    They didn’t have to have a war chest of cash if they were able to keep their customers through pivoting, how they delivered their products and services.

    That those skills of resilience and agility in combination will give companies continued advantage in the increasingly uncertain world that we are in


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Pandemic Lessons for Leaders?

    You Ask, I Answer: Pandemic Lessons for Leaders?

    Conor asks, “How do you think the pandemic has impacted leaders’ ability to make effective decisions? What has changed for the better since the pandemic? Is there anything that has set leaders back?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Pandemic Lessons for Leaders? (TD Q&A)

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    Christopher Penn 0:14

    How do you think the pandemic has impacted leaders ability to make effective decisions what has changed for the better since the pandemic has anything has set leaders back? Ah, well, without getting on a whole rant, the pandemic illustrated two things in stark clarity.

    First, anytime someone is emotionally invested in a decision, they are incapable of making any data driven decision, the data around the pandemic from January of 2020, which is when I first started paying attention to it suggested that you should wear the best mask possible that this disease was highly contagious, and that you should be reducing and mitigating your exposure to it.

    So wearing in 95, or better masks, everywhere you went, I wear p 100, which is like this.

    I reduced and eliminate or eliminated pretty much everything other than critical necessities for a year and a half.

    Even today, with restrictions being lifted, I still wear this out in public, I still don’t dine in restaurants, because it’s not over.

    And even though people are behaving as though it was over the data suggests that it’s not as of the time of recording this, the omachron ba two variant is resurgent, and is showing up in substantial waves in Europe and Asia.

    And so what we saw we continue to see is that people’s emotions make them incapable of following the data of listening to the data.

    We saw substantial amounts of resistance to wearing masks to getting vaccinated even though the data for both cases was under questionable, unimpeachable male high quality masks reduce transmission spread, high quality masks, reduce were almost completely eliminate risk of catching the disease as long as a properly worn vaccination.

    And boosters substantially reduced like to 99% reduction in the chance of hospitalization or death.

    And yet, millions, millions of people were incapable of making a data driven decision.

    Regardless of what the talking heads in the media and stuff like that people who have actual expertise, doctors presented data in the form of clinical trials, that clearly proved these positions of wearing a mask and getting vaccinated were logical, data driven, well founded, and have now have probably the largest pool of data ever, for a single disease in human history with billions of doses of vaccines administered, and they’re highly effective.

    And yet, we still have people who are unable to meet unable to make effective decisions.

    Because their emotional investment in their point of view, clouds their ability to make those decisions.

    And this is something that, again, this has always been there.

    But the pandemic has truly amplified just how vulnerable people are, to their emotional ties to illogical positions.

    What has changed for the better is in many ways, you’ve been able to identify and highlight and see people who can make good decisions with data, even if they personally are not emotionally happy with those decisions, like not eating out in restaurants, right, that is something that a lot of people take a lot of joy in.

    And a number of people, you know, six years someone percent of the population did make positive data driven decisions knowing the the available data was factually true.

    And so they made those changes.

    And so as we talk to people as we discuss how people handled the pandemic and the decisions that they made, we get a we get insight into how data driven are they? Again, we’re not talking about politics, we’re not talking about opinion, we’re talking about you were presented with clear, unimpeachable data.

    Did you act on it appropriately? Right, and people who did take that data and make appropriate effective decisions? Those people we should be hiring people who didn’t who resisted strongly in the face of very sound data.

    I would not put those people in positions where in any kind of an organization which was data driven, because they’re going to make bad decisions.

    Christopher Penn 5:00

    In terms of what has set leaders back the great resignation as a side consequence of the pandemic, when a lot of people who, through various payroll protection programs and unemployment benefits, particularly in the United States of America, but especially in other nations, with more robust social programs, like many social democracies in Europe, a lot of people who had jobs when they were lay offs and stuff had time and breathing room because of the social support the the financial assistance to look at their lives and go, is it something I really want to be doing? And a lot of people discover No, it’s actually not, I can count on several hands, the number of people in my profession in marketing, who they were senior executives, and now they’re like yoga teachers and dance instructors and and herbal medicine folks, and all kinds of careers that aren’t, would not be on a corporate org chart, right to go from senior vice president of marketing to yoga instructor is a big change, but they had the time the bandwidth to consider, this is something that they would rather do instead, that makes them more happy, more emotionally fulfilled.

    A lot of leaders and a lot of organizations found out the very hard way that their workplace cultures and habits and things aren’t particularly happy places aren’t particularly places where people find fulfillment, or joy.

    And as a result, those organizations have suffered mightily in trying to hire people, they’ve had to increase wages.

    And even for organizations that have increased wages, sometimes substantially, they’re still not seeing as much traction because a lot of people just don’t like those jobs.

    Right.

    So there are opportunities for other organizations to come in, and do things like add automation stuff to try and backfill some of the tasks that those individuals did.

    But fundamentally, we’re talking about a massive realignment and what people believe makes them happy.

    And that has set many leaders and many organizations back substantially a loss of institutional knowledge.

    When especially when organizations did layoffs, they did layoffs of people who had, you know, substantial paychecks.

    And those substantial paychecks often come with a lot of institutional knowledge that gets lost along the way, and can’t be reclaimed because those people aren’t in the same profession anymore.

    You know, you’re not going to call the yoga studio say, Oh, by the way, on your next break, could you tell us what the contents of our CDPR because nobody on the left on that team, and the yoga instructor is gonna know.

    So the pandemic changed society very substantially.

    And there are as with any kind of massive dislocation, opportunities to be found, there are dangers and there are things that leaders have not fully recognized have happened and need to quickly because their businesses will suffer otherwise


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Making Better Leadership Decisions?

    You Ask, I Answer: Making Better Leadership Decisions?

    Conor asks, “Why do you think some business leaders stumble when making decisions? What do businesses leaders need to make better decision? Should they be approaching decisions differently?”

    You Ask, I Answer: Making Better Leadership Decisions? (TD Q&A)

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    Why do you think some business leaders stumble when making decisions? What do business leaders need to make better decisions? Should they be approaching decisions differently? One of the things that we talk about a lot, is data driven, whatever they do different business data driven strategy, data, data driven marketing.

    And what that means, and this is where a lot of business folks do stumble, is that you are data driven when you’re using data as the highest priority decisioning factor when you’re making a decision.

    That’s not to say it’s the only one there are things like experience and intuition and tradition that you may incorporate into your decisioning process.

    But very often, the whole reason for people focusing on data driven decisioning, is that they don’t trust those things, right? You don’t necessarily trust your intuition, because your intuition may be substantially biased.

    You don’t trust tradition, or this is the way we’ve always done it.

    Because the way you’ve always done it may not apply to the world or the decision that you’re trying to make now.

    Experience, the same was true there, where your past experiences may not reflect the present.

    Nowhere is this more true than now.

    And really, anytime after April 1 of 2020, when the pandemic was really in full swing and the world that we knew the world that we had experience around, even the world that we had data around, is gone, it’s gone, and it’s never coming back.

    We know that from things like the great resignation, the pandemic spurred this massive dislocation and employment and got a whole bunch of people thinking about, well, maybe there’s something else I want to do with my life.

    And the employment market certainly shows that.

    So data driven decision making is probably the most straightforward path for a lot of business leaders to take.

    However, they’re not doing it because they don’t.

    They’re stuck in their, in their old ways.

    They’re stuck in their old habits.

    When we consider a decision that we’re trying to make, as business leaders very often there’s ego involved, right? You may look at the data around a series of projects that you’re doing.

    And you may say, Well, you know, this project is underperforming, but it’s your pet project is the thing that you love.

    And so you keep it even though the data says it’s not worth it.

    So in order to become a data driven, decisioning organization, you have to be willing to make decisions based on the data that you have.

    Whether or not you like those decisions.

    And I remember at one point, I was doing this one particular marketing campaign, I really enjoyed the way that marketing campaign work.

    I enjoyed creating the content, I enjoyed promoting the content.

    But the data said, it’s not working, there’s no measurable impact, and it consumed a lot of time.

    And so to be true to the process of being data driven, in my decision making, I had to, to put that project on pause right, you have to kill your sacred cows.

    If the data suggests that, or the data just outright tells you it’s not working.

    In order to make good data driven decisions, you have to have data that is clean, and complete and correct.

    Right.

    Without those things.

    A data driven decision making process does not work.

    So leaders need to have data that they can trust that is reliable, that is correct and complete and answers the questions being asked of it.

    If they want to do data driven decisioning properly.

    The challenge is particularly in marketing, that data may not always be clean, or complete or correct.

    Everybody in their cousin who’s ever had a website form has gotten that submission your [email protected] and we know that that’s not correct.

    So part of the challenges with data driven decision making is making sure your data is clean.

    If your data is filthy, then data driven decision making may not be possible in the same way that if all you have in your kitchen pantry is sand.

    baking a cake simply isn’t possible you can make something that looks like a cake, but it’s certainly not going to taste like a cake and no matter how much you wish it were otherwise it’s never going to be a cake.

    At least not one that’s edible.

    So that would be sort of the big stumble there when it comes to data driven decision making


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