Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

  • You Ask, I Answer: Pandemic Lessons for Leaders?

    You Ask, I Answer: Pandemic Lessons for Leaders?

    Conor asks, “How do you think the pandemic has impacted leaders’ ability to make effective decisions? What has changed for the better since the pandemic? Is there anything that has set leaders back?”

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    Christopher Penn 0:14

    How do you think the pandemic has impacted leaders ability to make effective decisions what has changed for the better since the pandemic has anything has set leaders back? Ah, well, without getting on a whole rant, the pandemic illustrated two things in stark clarity.

    First, anytime someone is emotionally invested in a decision, they are incapable of making any data driven decision, the data around the pandemic from January of 2020, which is when I first started paying attention to it suggested that you should wear the best mask possible that this disease was highly contagious, and that you should be reducing and mitigating your exposure to it.

    So wearing in 95, or better masks, everywhere you went, I wear p 100, which is like this.

    I reduced and eliminate or eliminated pretty much everything other than critical necessities for a year and a half.

    Even today, with restrictions being lifted, I still wear this out in public, I still don’t dine in restaurants, because it’s not over.

    And even though people are behaving as though it was over the data suggests that it’s not as of the time of recording this, the omachron ba two variant is resurgent, and is showing up in substantial waves in Europe and Asia.

    And so what we saw we continue to see is that people’s emotions make them incapable of following the data of listening to the data.

    We saw substantial amounts of resistance to wearing masks to getting vaccinated even though the data for both cases was under questionable, unimpeachable male high quality masks reduce transmission spread, high quality masks, reduce were almost completely eliminate risk of catching the disease as long as a properly worn vaccination.

    And boosters substantially reduced like to 99% reduction in the chance of hospitalization or death.

    And yet, millions, millions of people were incapable of making a data driven decision.

    Regardless of what the talking heads in the media and stuff like that people who have actual expertise, doctors presented data in the form of clinical trials, that clearly proved these positions of wearing a mask and getting vaccinated were logical, data driven, well founded, and have now have probably the largest pool of data ever, for a single disease in human history with billions of doses of vaccines administered, and they’re highly effective.

    And yet, we still have people who are unable to meet unable to make effective decisions.

    Because their emotional investment in their point of view, clouds their ability to make those decisions.

    And this is something that, again, this has always been there.

    But the pandemic has truly amplified just how vulnerable people are, to their emotional ties to illogical positions.

    What has changed for the better is in many ways, you’ve been able to identify and highlight and see people who can make good decisions with data, even if they personally are not emotionally happy with those decisions, like not eating out in restaurants, right, that is something that a lot of people take a lot of joy in.

    And a number of people, you know, six years someone percent of the population did make positive data driven decisions knowing the the available data was factually true.

    And so they made those changes.

    And so as we talk to people as we discuss how people handled the pandemic and the decisions that they made, we get a we get insight into how data driven are they? Again, we’re not talking about politics, we’re not talking about opinion, we’re talking about you were presented with clear, unimpeachable data.

    Did you act on it appropriately? Right, and people who did take that data and make appropriate effective decisions? Those people we should be hiring people who didn’t who resisted strongly in the face of very sound data.

    I would not put those people in positions where in any kind of an organization which was data driven, because they’re going to make bad decisions.

    Christopher Penn 5:00

    In terms of what has set leaders back the great resignation as a side consequence of the pandemic, when a lot of people who, through various payroll protection programs and unemployment benefits, particularly in the United States of America, but especially in other nations, with more robust social programs, like many social democracies in Europe, a lot of people who had jobs when they were lay offs and stuff had time and breathing room because of the social support the the financial assistance to look at their lives and go, is it something I really want to be doing? And a lot of people discover No, it’s actually not, I can count on several hands, the number of people in my profession in marketing, who they were senior executives, and now they’re like yoga teachers and dance instructors and and herbal medicine folks, and all kinds of careers that aren’t, would not be on a corporate org chart, right to go from senior vice president of marketing to yoga instructor is a big change, but they had the time the bandwidth to consider, this is something that they would rather do instead, that makes them more happy, more emotionally fulfilled.

    A lot of leaders and a lot of organizations found out the very hard way that their workplace cultures and habits and things aren’t particularly happy places aren’t particularly places where people find fulfillment, or joy.

    And as a result, those organizations have suffered mightily in trying to hire people, they’ve had to increase wages.

    And even for organizations that have increased wages, sometimes substantially, they’re still not seeing as much traction because a lot of people just don’t like those jobs.

    Right.

    So there are opportunities for other organizations to come in, and do things like add automation stuff to try and backfill some of the tasks that those individuals did.

    But fundamentally, we’re talking about a massive realignment and what people believe makes them happy.

    And that has set many leaders and many organizations back substantially a loss of institutional knowledge.

    When especially when organizations did layoffs, they did layoffs of people who had, you know, substantial paychecks.

    And those substantial paychecks often come with a lot of institutional knowledge that gets lost along the way, and can’t be reclaimed because those people aren’t in the same profession anymore.

    You know, you’re not going to call the yoga studio say, Oh, by the way, on your next break, could you tell us what the contents of our CDPR because nobody on the left on that team, and the yoga instructor is gonna know.

    So the pandemic changed society very substantially.

    And there are as with any kind of massive dislocation, opportunities to be found, there are dangers and there are things that leaders have not fully recognized have happened and need to quickly because their businesses will suffer otherwise

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Making Better Leadership Decisions?

    You Ask, I Answer: Making Better Leadership Decisions?

    Conor asks, “Why do you think some business leaders stumble when making decisions? What do businesses leaders need to make better decision? Should they be approaching decisions differently?”

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    Why do you think some business leaders stumble when making decisions? What do business leaders need to make better decisions? Should they be approaching decisions differently? One of the things that we talk about a lot, is data driven, whatever they do different business data driven strategy, data, data driven marketing.

    And what that means, and this is where a lot of business folks do stumble, is that you are data driven when you’re using data as the highest priority decisioning factor when you’re making a decision.

    That’s not to say it’s the only one there are things like experience and intuition and tradition that you may incorporate into your decisioning process.

    But very often, the whole reason for people focusing on data driven decisioning, is that they don’t trust those things, right? You don’t necessarily trust your intuition, because your intuition may be substantially biased.

    You don’t trust tradition, or this is the way we’ve always done it.

    Because the way you’ve always done it may not apply to the world or the decision that you’re trying to make now.

    Experience, the same was true there, where your past experiences may not reflect the present.

    Nowhere is this more true than now.

    And really, anytime after April 1 of 2020, when the pandemic was really in full swing and the world that we knew the world that we had experience around, even the world that we had data around, is gone, it’s gone, and it’s never coming back.

    We know that from things like the great resignation, the pandemic spurred this massive dislocation and employment and got a whole bunch of people thinking about, well, maybe there’s something else I want to do with my life.

    And the employment market certainly shows that.

    So data driven decision making is probably the most straightforward path for a lot of business leaders to take.

    However, they’re not doing it because they don’t.

    They’re stuck in their, in their old ways.

    They’re stuck in their old habits.

    When we consider a decision that we’re trying to make, as business leaders very often there’s ego involved, right? You may look at the data around a series of projects that you’re doing.

    And you may say, Well, you know, this project is underperforming, but it’s your pet project is the thing that you love.

    And so you keep it even though the data says it’s not worth it.

    So in order to become a data driven, decisioning organization, you have to be willing to make decisions based on the data that you have.

    Whether or not you like those decisions.

    And I remember at one point, I was doing this one particular marketing campaign, I really enjoyed the way that marketing campaign work.

    I enjoyed creating the content, I enjoyed promoting the content.

    But the data said, it’s not working, there’s no measurable impact, and it consumed a lot of time.

    And so to be true to the process of being data driven, in my decision making, I had to, to put that project on pause right, you have to kill your sacred cows.

    If the data suggests that, or the data just outright tells you it’s not working.

    In order to make good data driven decisions, you have to have data that is clean, and complete and correct.

    Right.

    Without those things.

    A data driven decision making process does not work.

    So leaders need to have data that they can trust that is reliable, that is correct and complete and answers the questions being asked of it.

    If they want to do data driven decisioning properly.

    The challenge is particularly in marketing, that data may not always be clean, or complete or correct.

    Everybody in their cousin who’s ever had a website form has gotten that submission your [email protected] and we know that that’s not correct.

    So part of the challenges with data driven decision making is making sure your data is clean.

    If your data is filthy, then data driven decision making may not be possible in the same way that if all you have in your kitchen pantry is sand.

    baking a cake simply isn’t possible you can make something that looks like a cake, but it’s certainly not going to taste like a cake and no matter how much you wish it were otherwise it’s never going to be a cake.

    At least not one that’s edible.

    So that would be sort of the big stumble there when it comes to data driven decision making

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Making Critical Decisions Process?

    You Ask, I Answer: Making Critical Decisions Process?

    Conor asks, “What is your standard approach to making critical decisions? Do you have a tried and tested method when faced with tough decisions?”

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    What is the standard approach to making critical decisions? Is there a tried and true tried and tested method, when faced with tough decisions? The tried and true method that I tend to use is based on the Eisenhower matrix.

    So if you’re unfamiliar, the Eisenhower matrix was originally just a two by two matrix of urgency and importance.

    And the third dimension that I typically add is ease.

    So ranking your decisions, you need to be made by the urgency with which a decision needs to be made, how soon do you need to make it the importance of the decision? And then how easy is it to take action Once a decision has been made? So there are some things for example, like, migrating to Google Analytics 4, there is an urgency, there’s a deadline of July 1 2023.

    There’s actually other things at play there as well.

    But there’s a sense of urgency around it.

    Is it important? Yes, it’s very important.

    If you rely on web analytics, it’s super important that you need to update this because as of that date, the previous version, which your company is probably using, will stop working.

    And then the third dimension, there is ease, how easy is it to make the migration while there’s, you know, some complications, but this is not rocket surgery, to do make the change for most businesses.

    So that’s sort of the standardized approach when making decisions.

    The other frameworks I’ve seen that also work really well, are your standard cost benefit analysis? What is the cost? What are the benefits? What are the pros and cons, the technique, the Benjamin Franklin technique, where you take a sheet of paper, then you write down your your pros and cons for a decision.

    And then you look at what’s left, and you sort of weigh them.

    Now one thing that the Franklin method doesn’t really take into account is sort of the emotional investment.

    Because you can come up with a whole bunch of reasons that are more logical.

    But if you are emotionally invested in a one side of the other, if it’s a decision, that’s going to impact, you emotionally have to take that into account.

    Because it’s relatively straightforward.

    For example, if you’re thinking about making a career change, you may do a tally of things like pay and benefits and working hours and location.

    And all those things may be in the pros of changing jobs.

    But if it’s for a company that you find reprehensible, like morally repugnant, and that’s the only con that’s still a pretty big con, you’re going to be doing work that you fundamentally unhappy with, that’s going to impact the rest of your work.

    So the Franklin method with that emphasis on, on its emotional impact is another good method for making those kinds of decisions.

    Whatever decision making framework you choose, understand, there will always be exceptions, there will always be things where things are not clear.

    And that’s when it really helps to have a sort of a, I guess, an informal council of advisors, people who you can call on, and they can call on you.

    So that’s it’s fair to ask their input to say, Hey, I’m struggling with this decision.

    Here’s the pros and cons.

    You’ve done your homework, right? You’ve got your Eisenhower matrix or your Franklin list.

    And you say to them, what do you think, and that third party perspective, can often be very helpful for helping people understand, Okay, here’s the decision you’re trying to make, but they’re not necessarily as emotionally invested.

    Or they may have prior experience or different points of view, that can help inform that decision and make it a little bit not easier for you to make, but make a better informed decision and one that has multiple points of view, including things you may not have considered.

    So that would be my suggestion, find a framework, apply the framework and then get third party validation based on your decision from people that you trust.

    Preferably people who don’t have conflict of interest and and use that as your decision making basis.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Newsletters on LinkedIn?

    You Ask, I Answer: Newsletters on LinkedIn?

    Heidi asks, “I wonder why you’re offering your newsletter via LinkedIn. Based on past conversations, I thought that you created unique content for your newsletters and didn’t publish it elsewhere to get people to subscribe to it and to be able to use it elsewhere if needed. So what motivated you to change?”

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    In today’s episode, Heidi asks, I wonder why you’re offering a newsletter via LinkedIn.

    Based on past conversations, I thought that you create a unique content for your newsletters, and didn’t publish it elsewhere to get people to subscribe to it, and to be able to use it elsewhere if needed.

    So what motivated you to change? Really good question.

    Here’s the thing.

    When I look in my Google Analytics, at traffic, to my subscribe page, for my newsletter, from all the different channels that are out there, LinkedIn for the last six months has been pretty close to zero, right? That means that my LinkedIn audience isn’t subscribing to my newsletter by normal means I’ve I’ve kind of tapped it out, I think I think I’ve gotten all the juice for the squeeze that I’m going to be able to get telling people to subscribe to my newsletter, from LinkedIn posts.

    Which means if I want the attention of that crowd, maybe I should try the built in platform.

    With the understanding, I’m not creating anything new for LinkedIn, I’m literally copying and pasting from my existing newsletter to LinkedIn.

    But the content still decent, right? It’s still okay.

    It’s not like the LinkedIn folks are getting, like almost timely light.

    It’s just the regular newsletter.

    When you’ve tapped out a platform, when you’ve tapped out an audience, it’s worth a try trying some of the native tools because as we know, with many different social networks, what that social network is trying to do from a strategic perspective.

    They give preference to it right? When Instagram rolls out, reveals, guess what’s going to get a thumbs up in the algorithm, the thing they want to promote.

    LinkedIn has been promoting newsletters, Twitter has been promoting those with review.

    And as a result, those things for a short period of time will get more attention.

    Combine that with the fact that like I said, Nobody subscribing, and nobody’s even reaching my subscribe page from LinkedIn, that tells me there’s no more juice to be squeezed.

    So let’s try it on platform.

    And sure enough, I put the first issue up, and within a week had 1700 subscribers, these are people who would prefer to get the newsletter on LinkedIn, as opposed to in their regular inbox.

    Now, I’m still putting a banner up the top that says, hey, if you prefer to get this newsletter in your regular inbox, subscribe here, because I definitely don’t want LinkedIn to be holding my audience captive, if I can avoid if I can get them elsewhere.

    But those are 1700 people who clearly did not want my newsletter in their regular inbox, because if they did, they would get it there instead.

    So why not? Here’s the thing.

    At the end of the day, attention is the only thing that matters, right? Well, it’s not the only thing.

    But it’s the most important thing from a publishing and media perspective.

    If you have nothing at the top of the funnel, the rest of the funnel by default is empty, right? There’s nothing to nurture, there’s nothing to sell, there’s nobody to sell to, there’s nobody to do customer care for, you’ve got an empty funnel, there’s nothing there.

    When you have people’s attention, however, you can get it by any legal and ethical means.

    Know those two parts are important.

    Then you have something to work with.

    Again, when you have somebody’s attention, then you have something else to work with.

    You have you have stuff coming in the top of the funnel, some of it will eventually trickle down to the bottom of funnel.

    But if nothing’s coming in the top, you got nothing.

    And so those 1700 people that have signed up for my newsletter on LinkedIn, that’s 1700 more people that I’m reaching that I didn’t reach previous the previous week, I’ll take it.

    Right, I will take whatever attention I can get on the content that I’m creating.

    Because content without attention is completely valueless, right? You can put all the effort and care and, and and stuff into a piece of content.

    And if nobody ever sees it except you, unless you’re making content for yourself.

    It didn’t do its job.

    Right, it was a waste of your time was a waste of resources.

    If I put my newsletter in front of 240,000 people, which is what the subscription is right about now, and I have the chance to pick up an additional 1700 for really maybe 10 minutes of extra work, maybe five, copy, paste, edit some UTM tags to make sure that we’re not using the same UTM tags in both places.

    Why not? Why not? Now again, If I see this really take off and I start seeing like, an uncomfortably large percentage, like maybe when 5% of my newsletter base is reading on LinkedIn versus in the email version,

    Christopher Penn 5:13

    I might be a little bit concerned because again, if LinkedIn vanished tomorrow, what I want 5% of my business to disappear, no.

    But for as long as it’s just not a whole lot of extra work for a lot of extra potential return, I’m going to give it a try.

    I’m going to see if it works.

    And keep an eye on those risks.

    Keep an eye on those risks.

    So long answer to a very good question.

    If you’ve got a channel that you’ve tapped out by regular means, and you think there’s still juice to be squeezed there in some fashion, try the native tools.

    See if you get a response that way, see, if you get a response to whatever the social networks algorithm is promoting that week, or that month, or whatever their you know, their current thing is, and if you do, great, then you’ve gotten some extra attention that you probably didn’t have to pay for.

    So that would be the other major consideration.

    The LinkedIn newsletter doesn’t cost me any additional hard dollars to put it up.

    And if 1700 extra people are reading it for zero, a hard dollar spend and a nominal soft dollar spend.

    I’m definitely gonna do it.

    So, good question.

    Try it out for yourself.

    If you can make it work.

    And it doesn’t present a strategic risk to your business.

    Why not take the extra attention and do something good with it? Thanks for asking.

    I will talk to you soon.

    Take care

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  • Almost Timely News, 27 March 2022: Regulars, Google Analytics 4

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    What’s On My Mind: Do You Know Your Regulars?

    How well do you know your regulars?

    In marketing, we love to make things unnecessarily fancy. We talk about communities, influencers, marketing automation, lead scoring, purchase propensity – whole mouthfuls of corporate jargon that sanitize and dehumanize ordinary experiences. And yet, if we want to be successful as marketers, we have to understand ordinary experiences.

    I was talking with my martial arts teacher, Mark Davis of the Boston Martial Arts Center the other week about businesses that survived the pandemic and businesses that did not. Two factors differentiated the survivors: resilience and agility. Businesses that had healthy margins and a war chest had resilience. They survived the first few weeks or months when everything was completely shut down. However, if their business models were predicated on the way the world used to be, eventually they ran out of money. Only those businesses which had agility, the ability to adapt to changing conditions, were able to continue on.

    None of this is news, right? We’ve all read countless articles and case studies about business models that have been successful in the pandemic. But one of the most overlooked factors in these studies and articles is… our customers. In this case, one very specific kind of customer.

    We have all sorts of fancy names for finding these customers and doing data analysis on them, techniques like RFM analysis – recency, frequency, and monetary value – but at the end of the day, we all know this customer by heart.

    The regular.

    When the regular walks into the restaurant, the staff greets us by name. “Hey Chris, your usual table?” and “Hey Chris, the usual?” when the server wanders over. They recognize us, they know us, and as long as we’re decent humans, they like us as much as we like them. We may not be the biggest spenders on a per-transaction basis but we have insane lifetime value because we’re there every week. Maybe even more than once a week.

    We are loyal to these businesses as consumers, and in return, we get a level of personalization that other customers do not. These businesses – diners, restaurants, yoga studios, whatever – don’t have or need any special software or marketing technology to know who their regulars are or how to treat them. They know us because of our loyalty to them and what’s ultimately a very human experience.

    Why does this matter? As I said, I was talking to my teacher and he said the reason our martial arts school survived when something like 70% of the competing schools in the area didn’t is because of the regulars. Longtime, loyal students who kept paying even as the services changed, as lessons went online for months at a time – that’s what kept the business afloat.

    This is the key: not only does the business need agility, so does the customer. And a customer’s agility is directly proportional to their loyalty, to how much of a regular they are. Ask any restaurant that pivoted to online food delivery and takeout during the pandemic what kept them afloat. It wasn’t just changing business models – it was also that their regulars still wanted their food and were willing to change how they got it.

    So here’s the question for you: how well do you know your regulars? We all have regulars, even if we don’t have a place like a martial arts school or a restaurant. I have regulars – you’re probably one of them! If you read this newsletter every week, or every other week, you’re a regular. If you listen to my podcasts repeatedly, you’re a regular. If you check out my YouTube channel when I post a new video, you’re a regular – and I thank you for that.

    You have regulars. And you as a marketer have the tools to recognize your regulars – marketing automation and CRM software tells us who our regulars are at every stage of the customer journey. The next question we have to ask ourselves is, how do we treat our regulars? You don’t have to do anything fancy – a restaurant simply greets you by name once they get to know you. Maybe every so often you get a free appetizer or something, but it’s just that comfort of being known, being recognized, being appreciated that is most common for businesses who know the value of regulars.

    Take a look in your marketing automation and CRM software for who your regulars are – and then start thinking about what you can do to encourage more people to become regulars.

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  • Mind Readings: Inflation and Fair Wages

    Mind Readings: Inflation and Fair Wages

    We generally agree that people should earn a living wage. We generally agree that we want the lowest prices possible when we buy goods. These are more or less mutually exclusive UNLESS automation is in the mix – but then you have higher unemployment. So which is more important?

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    In today’s mind readings, we have two economic things that people seem to really be struggling with.

    And I don’t know why other than the fact that people just don’t understand economics.

    So people generally want, I think we can generally agree that we want the lowest prices possible and we buy goods, right, you buy a pack of gum, you would prefer the pack of gum cost as little money as possible, right? If you can get it for 1.

    Okay, if you can get it for 75 cents better.

    So that’s anchor number one.

    Anchor number two, we generally agree that people should earn a living wage, whatever a living wage is defined in your area.

    Remember, a living wage is the wage in which you are spending.

    You are making enough money to afford housing and life’s basic necessities.

    Generally speaking, financial planners will say that, for example, between 25 and 40% of your net income after taxes should be allocated towards housing.

    So if you make1,000 a month, your rent or your mortgage shouldn’t be more than between 250 and 400 a month.

    Now, in some places in, in the United States, for example, that’s very achievable.

    In other places, that is completely unrealistic, you can even get a cardboard box in Boston or San Francisco for 400 a month, you can get maybe like a square foot in somebody’s apartment.

    And so in those places, a living wage would have to be much, much higher.

    So you end up with this push and pull, then if you pay a living wage to your employees, so that they can live where you know, reasonably well.

    And you want to offer low prices, you’ve got to have employees in places where it’s not expensive for them to live.

    Right.

    This is the whole point of globalization, the point of outsourcing and offshoring, where you find places where people can live on much less money.

    And therefore you can make goods and sell them for lower prices.

    If you have to use labor, for example, that is based in the city of New York, or Boston or San Francisco, it’s just going to be expensive to have people there.

    You know, simple example, when you look at like the entry level job, for an account coordinator at up like a public relations firm.

    It used to be 20 years ago, you could pay that person 2025,000 a year.

    And that would be okay, ish to get by on.

    That’s not the case anymore.

    Now you’re talking 4045 $50,000, just because the cost of living in those places is so extraordinarily high.

    So if you are reliant on that talent in that location, you’re going to have to charge higher prices.

    So how does how do people reconcile this? Well, there’s a couple of different ways that you can achieve lower prices, and still pay living wages.

    One, of course, is to find people to do the work that costs less, based on where their cost of living is, if you’re a kind of company or business where you can have virtual workers, then the you can get virtual workers pretty much anywhere on the planet, including places where cost of living is extraordinarily low.

    And workers are still able to get the job done.

    If you care about or are required to have workers within a specific location, because maybe there’s a manufacturing plant.

    You build that manufacturing plant, again, wherever cost of living is is lowest if you want to be able to offer those low prices.

    And the reason I bring all this up is because I see an enormous amount of uninformed opinion about people on one hand, saying we should pay a living wage and on the other hand complaining about how expensive everything’s getting, well, everything’s getting expensive because it costs more to pay people a living wage, particularly in the larger urban areas.

    But in general, right now that plus supply chain issues and things makes everything more expensive.

    That’s just the nature of things.

    There is one exception to this rule.

    The exception to the rule is that your employees are not human.

    Right? So if you are automating, if you’re using robots instead then Your cost of living, such as cost of operation is much, much lower because robots don’t need health insurance, they don’t take vacations, it’s less of a challenge if they get injured at work because you can repair them.

    Christopher Penn 5:15

    And in general, and not subject to all the issues that come with human beings like healthcare, for example.

    The more you automate, the more you can pay the remaining human workers that you have a living wage, right? Because if you need 100 employees on the factory floor, and you’re paying them 15 an hour, but now you’ve automated and you only need five employees to to maintain the robots, you can pay those five employees much, much better.

    Right? That’s just, again, this is basic economics.

    The trade off there is you then have higher unemployment, because there are there’s less of a need for that labor, because machines are doing it.

    So is there a solution that allows you to maintain full employment pay people highly wage and have extremely low costs? No, that’s just, that’s just basic economics, you cannot violate those basic supply and demand things.

    Could companies earn less money? Of course they could, because they have tighter margins? Yes, of course they could.

    The challenge then becomes how resilient are those companies, we found out during the pandemic, that companies with extremely thin margins, meaning they were barely profitable, didn’t survive, right? They ran into adverse conditions, they did not have enough money in the bank to to endure, and they didn’t have the agility needed to pivot.

    And as a result, they went out of business.

    So there is a certain amount of profitability that that lends itself to resiliency, the more profitability you have, the more resilient you are.

    Now, other folks will correctly point out that there are some companies where people are, you know, the disparity of the pay inequality within the company is dramatically, almost hilariously bad.

    Where the CEO makes, you know, 10,000 times with the, the junior most employee makes until two years ago, yeah, that was kind of a the way things work.

    Since the pandemic and the great resignation, that’s not as much the case anymore, because now companies are essentially starved for employees.

    And the way to attract employees is to raise wages.

    You can use someone who is unhappy in their job at10 an hour is still probably unhappy in their job $15 Now, but the rest of their life is happier, because they can pay their bills, right they can afford a nicer accommodations or more food or whatever the thing is, that makes them happy.

    Giving just handing somebody a bundle of money doesn’t necessarily change that places terribly to work out but because the market is so tight right now for for labor, that employees can demand more and and get it and as a result, prices will go up.

    So that’s economics, there is you will hear people of every political stripe yelling about what they think should happen.

    Some positions have some merit because they’re somewhat based, in fact, other positions not so much.

    But the reality is if you want or you have to pay people a living wage, your prices are going to go up unless those people are located in different places.

    So your choices if you need to maintain margins are either to use employees that are based in cheaper places, wherever that place may be, or use more automation.

    But either way, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    That’s today’s mine readings.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Events?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Events?

    Jo asks, “What’s the difference between an event and a conversion event in Google Analytics 4?”

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    In today’s episode, Joe asks, What’s difference between an event and a conversion event in Google Analytics 4.

    Once a conversion everything and Google Analytics 4 is an event.

    That’s one of the things that is so different about the software from the previous version, the previous version of Google Analytics, GA three or Universal analytics had for what are called scopes, right? The hit where the page view, the session, the user, and then the shopping thing.

    And the dimensions and metrics for each of these scopes were largely incompatible with each other, which made for some really challenging reporting.

    If you’ve ever tried to put together a Data Studio dashboard or Google Analytics three, you have probably seen the error message saying these are incompatible dimensions and metrics and your report blows up.

    In Google Analytics, 4.

    Because everything is an event.

    That is largely a thing of the past.

    So everything’s an event from how fast you scroll to how far down the page, you’ve read, to what you click on to a visit, to a user, all those things are events, the metrics, we’re used to like sessions, and users are really aggregated roll ups of events that are happening.

    So in Google Analytics 4, you can configure and set up up to 500 different events of any kind.

    In the software, plus it collects a basket of its own events by default of that, in the web interface for Google Analytics, 4, it’s under configure, you would then choose up to 30 of those events to be denoted as conversions.

    So when these 30, things have up to 30 things happen.

    These are conversions.

    And those are obviously the things that, you know, for example, somebody fills out a landing page, or subscribes or checks out of the shopping cart, or whatever the case may be, once somebody does something of value, that is a conversion event and Google Analytics 4.

    The challenge that a lot of folks are going to have with this is that you have to set the event value at the time the event is created.

    So it’s not something like in Google Analytics that you set up a goal and a goal value.

    And Google Analytics 4, that has to be done in Tag Manager, because hopefully, you’re using Google Tag Manager to do all the things like goal conversions, column conversions.

    And then you assign the dollar value of the conversion within Tag Manager.

    And so there’s no way to denote that in Google Analytics 4.

    But that’s the that’s the main difference.

    It really is just, you have 500 events that you can customize, you get the basket of whatever events are built in the box, and then you get up to 30 conversion events.

    So once you start collecting data, on your website, you’ll see a list of events and Google Analytics 4.

    And these look, check the little slider next to the events that you say this is a conversion.

    And what Google Analytics 4 will then do is in all of its reporting, and all of its analysis tools, it will then look for an event value and be able to present to you things like revenue and stuff that’s built in.

    So that’s that’s the difference.

    Get used to doing a lot of stuff in Tag Manager because that’s where conversion events and all events now are generated for Google Analytics 4.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and LGBTQ+ Demographic Data?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and LGBTQ+ Demographic Data?

    Stasia asks, “In Google Analytics 4, how do you configure demographic data for LGBTQ+ friendly things like non-binary genders?”

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    In today’s episode Stasi asks, in Google Analytics 4, how do you configure demographic data for LGBTQ plus friendly things like non binary genders? You can’t, unfortunately.

    And here’s why.

    The demographic data that is in Google Analytics 4, and Google Analytics three, for that matter, comes from Google’s Double Click Network.

    The tracking data comes from double clicks, essentially, user demographics.

    And the ad tech world is a little behind in terms of supporting things like non binary genders, which is fine.

    If you identify as either SIS or trans male or female, you get bucketed in the correct category is for anybody who doesn’t fit in those two buckets.

    There’s there is no accommodation for it.

    Which means that because it’s not in the ad, tech side of things is not in Google Analytics 4.

    And until it becomes available on the ad tech side of the house, it will not be available in Google Analytics 4.

    So given that, how do you accommodate for this? Well, the easiest way to do that is to collect information directly from your visitors from you users.

    If you have the ability for someone to log in, and fill out a profile, then you can ask, obviously, things like age and gender, and whatever other identifying characteristics that you want.

    And that will be tied to their their login.

    Now, will that be the same amount of coverage that you get out of, say, Google Analytics 4, the default? No, absolutely not.

    It’s not the same amount of coverage.

    But at the same time, if you’ve done a good job of building a relationship, and establishing and strengthening that relationship with your users, you may get more information out of them, then Google can out of its other users, because the way it pulls together that third party data is from all the other sites in the Double Click Network.

    And the data that’s available to them so somebody on I don’t know, CNN, and CNN has some demographic data available.

    It’s only as good as the trust in the audience that you get from the people who visit CNN or Fox News or, you know, whatever web properties that are enrolled in the double click for publishers program.

    That’s the data that goes into double click, could Google implement, for example, multiple genders? Yes, they could.

    But the question then would be, how good would that data be because Google itself does not generate that data, it pulls it from all the individual publishers.

    So if you’re on sports, illustrated ESPN, and if ESPN is not gathering that data and is not accommodated for, you know, non binary genders, then the data simply won’t be there.

    And even if it is, again, depending on the level of trust that that organization has with its audience, the data may or may not be PSAs, may or may not be reliable.

    So your best bet is to do the profiling yourself.

    Ask people, when they log in, when they sign up for your newsletter when they subscribe to your podcast.

    That’s the time to ask for that information.

    And then what you’d want to do is start building models.

    Based on that if if gender is you think a critically important factor for things like lead quality for your organization, if you think that it matters, you’d want to establish that.

    So you’d build a way to gather that data for identified records, then you’d say, Okay, here’s our business outcome, like, purchases, or whatever.

    And then you have all the data that you have about your leads, including gender, and you would run it through some kind of multiple regression analysis to say, does gender have any identifiable impact on the outcome, for example, are people who identify as non binary you know, likely to purchase more or more often than people who identify as traditionally male or female, if it turns out that gender is not a contributing factor, then you can safely a ignore it going forward? B, you might want to stop collecting it because it is personally identifiable information, which is radioactive.

    And C, you won’t have to worry terribly much about the data you get in Google Analytics 4, because you’ve established that gender in this example, is not a driver of the outcomes that you care about.

    So that’s how I would recommend doing the workaround, knowing that you’re probably not going to get non binary genders in Ad Tech Data anytime soon.

    Again, it’s reliant on the publishers and the publishers.

    They’re pretty far behind the times too.

    So really good question.

    Hopefully was helpful

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Triggers for Unwanted Items?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Triggers for Unwanted Items?

    Marcio asks, “How do you create a trigger where GA 4 isn’t supposed to track something like a login page?”

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    In today’s episode Marcio asks, How do you create a trigger in Google Analytics 4, where you don’t want to track something like a login page when people visit a login page, you don’t want to track those things.

    The short answer to this is that if there’s an event that is trackable of some kind, then you can simply configure within Tag Manager to say, Don’t fire, the Google Analytics, 4 tags.

    When this these these conditions occur.

    One of the big changes between Universal analytics or Google Analytics three, and Google Analytics 4 Is that Google Analytics 4 is highly reliant.

    On Google Tag Manager.

    Four, it’s the majority of its configuration.

    So if you have a login page, and that login page creates an event that is visible inside the data layer, which is the metadata that is created, anytime we’re visiting a page, there’s a number of Chrome plugins like data Slayer, that you can see what’s in the data layer, the way I explained it a lot is it’s like a piece of plexiglass, you put over a page, and then you write notes and stuff on the plexiglass.

    It’s doesn’t you can’t see it on the page.

    But those extra notes there.

    So when somebody for example, clicks on the login button, that button can have a JavaScript attached to it in the JavaScript can say, hey, I’m going to click this login button.

    And when that happens, there’s now a trackable event in in Google Tag Manager and Google Tag Manager can then be set up to have a trigger looking for that event.

    And that trigger can then be added to the tag.

    So you have a Google Analytics 4 event tag like pageviews.

    And you would say, as an exception, don’t fire this page view tag.

    Anytime you see this login page trigger, right? Those triggers can be configured, again with any trackable activity.

    And now, there’s some events and activities where you can, you don’t need those extra pieces of code, like the JavaScript on the page, if it’s something that’s pretty straightforward that Google Tag Manager can already see.

    So let’s say you have a page just like Christopher Penn calm slash login, and there’s a form on that page, you can say trigger that looks for a form submission, which is built into Tag Manager on the login page.

    So that would be a trigger when when someone is on the login page and fills out this form, raise your hand Tag Manager, raise your hand, that’s what the triggers do.

    And then on your tags, you would say, Google Tag Manager is looking for pages to tell Google Analytics 4, someone’s visiting.

    And up here comes somebody.

    And it looks and says, Hmm, there’s a trigger here, it says login page trigger.

    And then in that tag, configuration, you say, don’t, don’t track this, if that login page trigger goes off.

    So the things that are built in to tag match are things like click URLs, if somebody clicks on a certain link, by by name, fills out a form visits a page is a portion of a page clicks on some kind of thing that is detectable.

    And even, you can even be restricted down to say, I want it to be a click only in with this certain ID if you’ve got IDs embedded into your web content.

    So it’s very flexible outside of the box.

    And then for anything else, where maybe you’ve built your own custom CRM, which we’ve had clients do.

    Those are cases where you would want that JavaScript Creating a Custom Event.

    And Tag Manager would listen for that custom event.

    When he hears it triggers, raise his hand, and then tells Google Analytics 4.

    Don’t track this.

    So that’s the easiest way to to not track something in Google Analytics 4 using Google Tag Manager.

    There is

    Christopher Penn 4:17

    some debate about whether that’s the best way to handle that situation.

    And the debate is this.

    If you’ve tell Tag Manager don’t track this.

    Google Analytics 4 will not have that data.

    As opposed to saying, I want to see everything that everybody’s doing all the time on our website, but we want to create a custom dimension that tells me if a user is logged in, and then I on my on the reporting side, I can exclude any session that has that that custom dimension set.

    So you’re not losing any data so that if for example, marketing wasn’t the only group of people Well, that was using Google Analytics, maybe a customer service was as well.

    And customer services like, hey, we want to know, when people are logging in as user, we want to see how many people that is your kind of volume is, if that’s the case, then you’re going to want to create a different approach and the different approaches, same general thing, right, you have a, your, your trigger that says someone’s logged in.

    But now you would modify your Google Analytics 4 tag to say, when this page you fires, and we have that logged in user event, send a custom dimension event to Who will I don’t look for and record that.

    So that you know that the person is logged in.

    That’s the more data complete way to handle this particular situation.

    My personal opinion is that I would go the data complete route, so that you’re getting an accurate, you know, views, page views and stuff for everything, and then exclude on the reporting side rather than willfully excluding the data upfront, because again, you may have multiple departments in your company where people need information that marketing isn’t just marketing’s.

    And frankly, sometimes you just want to see what people are doing.

    Right.

    And so having that information still be available, but appended with the correct custom dimensions or metrics.

    Well, that to me is the better way to go.

    So really good question.

    It’s a relatively straightforward setup.

    You’ve just got to be handy with Google Tag Manager because again, with Google Analytics 4, that is the preferred way, the strongly recommended way to do any kind of configuration for Google Analytics 4.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Lead Scoring?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics 4 and Lead Scoring?

    Marcio asks, “Can you connect data from Google Analytics 4 into a lead scoring model via marketing automation?”

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    In today’s episode, Marcio asks, Can you connect data from Google Analytics 4 into a lead scoring model via marketing automation? Well, the answer to this question depends on what marketing automation software you’re using.

    And whether or not it integrates with Google Analytics 4 or not.

    Google Analytics 4 is essentially Firebase.

    So if you’ve got a marketing automation system that in the past has integrated with Firebase, chances are, it’s going to integrate just fine with Google Analytics 4.

    If you’ve had a marketing automation system as integrated with the previous version of Google Analytics, Google Analytics three or Universal analytics, then I would check with the vendor and ask, Hey, is this something that’s going to be supported? Are you going to to offer support for Google Analytics? 4? If the answer is yes, then hopefully, you’ll get the integration sooner rather than later, since there is a deadline of July 1 2023, for everybody and move to Google Analytics 4.

    And hopefully, this vendor will do so sooner rather than later.

    If you would like to get started doing this today, then check your marketing automation systems back end, and its API’s to see if it can talk to a Google BigQuery database.

    So one of the features in Google Analytics 4, that is pretty killer, is the ability for the software to write its raw data to a BigQuery database.

    Now, BigQuery is one of Google’s cloud database systems, it is not free, there is a cost to use it, it’s pay as you go.

    And for small websites, you know, 1015 20,000 visitors a month, you’re going to spend maybe like 12, maybe $5 a month on storage usage.

    If you’ve got a site, where you’re talking millions of visitors a month, the costs are gonna rack up faster.

    But what BigQuery allows you to do is see all of your raw, unedited, unchanged Google Analytics data in a big, really big table.

    And so if your marketing automation system is able to ingest data from BigQuery, then there’s a very good chance that you’ll be able to bond the two together.

    So you will tell Google Analytics 4 Yes, write my data to this BigQuery database.

    And then you’ll tell your marketing automation software, connect to that BigQuery database, and pull the data out into your marketing automation software, one of the pieces that you’re going to need to do is turn on and link up user ID.

    So in your marketing automation software, you will have your prospect IDs, your lead IDs.

    And you will need to connect that to Google Analytics 4 to say, Okay, here’s where we’re getting these identifiable IDs, so that that data makes it into BigQuery.

    That way you can match up known identified leads from your marketing automation software with their activities in Google Analytics 4 and bond that together, you buy those tables.

    So it’s not a super easy, you know, one button and you’re done, kind of thing.

    But it is possible to do today, as long as your system supports it.

    Check with your vendor.

    There’s a obviously very good chance that the major marketing automation software packages, either already do support Google Analytics 4 integration, or are going to be announcing support for it relatively soon, ever since Google’s big announcement.

    And they obviously don’t want to be left behind.

    With a lot of what existing packages do on the market today, they will look for Google Analytics tracking codes, the UTM tracking codes and bring those directly into the marketing automation software.

    For example, Marketo does Hubspot does this part does this, where those UTM tracking codes can go in.

    So if you’re sending out at least campaign based stuff, like emails or tagged social posts and stuff, you’ll have those UTM tracking codes embedded directly into your marketing automation software.

    And UTM tracking codes function the same, mostly between Google Analytics three, Google Analytics 4.

    The major difference as of right now is that the term and content tags, I believe, don’t work yet.

    In Google Analytics 4, not as built in UTM tracking codes.

    Its source medium and campaign is what’s supported in the interface.

    Now that said, it can Google Analytics, 4 can see those other codes but they won’t show up in the interface.

    It’s only source, medium and campaign.

    So that’s the circuitous answer to This question it’s not one button but it is possible today and it will probably be more possible in the near future thanks for asking

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