Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

  • You Ask, I Answer: Regulation of Marketing AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Regulation of Marketing AI?

    Jonathan asks, “What kinds of regulations do you expect to see in marketing AI or AI in general?”

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    In today’s episode, Jonathan asks, what kinds of regulations do you expect to see in marketing AI or AI in general? What do I expect to see? Or what do I think we need because they’re different, they are different.

    What I expect to see are minimal efforts at attempting to create regulations about fairness.

    Right, and to some degree, about visibility about what machines do, and how they make decisions, particularly for consumer protections, being able to tell somebody and be able to justify, like, why was this consumer turned down for a mortgage or a loan or something? And in a court case, you know, being required to disclose Yeah, prove that your machine did not make this decision on the basis of race or religion or gender, right protected classes.

    That’s what I expect to see the bare minimum regulations, because artificial intelligence right now is such a driver of profit, and income for companies that most companies would perhaps prefer to not have a whole lot of regulation about it.

    What do we need, if we want to continue having a functioning society, we need to have regulations in place about interpretability and explainability.

    And what I mean by that is that we need to have regulations in place that are no different than, you know, the ingredients.

    The nutrition label on a package saying, here’s what’s in the box, right? If you put this in your mouth, here’s the things these are the chemicals that you are putting in your mouth, alright, sorbitol, gum, bass, glycerol, so on and so forth.

    We require that a food right we require that if some of important things in our lives, we should be requiring that of our machines.

    What is in the box.

    For example, if you create a recommendation engine, tell me the basis on which it makes recommendations.

    Right? Prove that the machine makes recommendations in a fair and balanced manner.

    One of the things that was a discussion topic in this week’s newsletter, if you go to my website, ChristopherSPenn.com, you can see last week’s newsletter the AI and inequality issue.

    There’s a bias, a natural bias towards bigger companies.

    So in SEO, in particular, because the bigger you are, the more content you generate, the more content you generate, the more data there is to learn from from your company.

    And as search algorithms improve, they learn from the data they’re given them, the bigger companies have more data, they’ll learn from that more.

    When we talk about regulation of AI, we have to be having some serious discussions about expected outcomes.

    What is the expected outcome of this software model? And then does it deliver on that and be clear and be regulating? These are the required outcomes, something simple like credit score decisions, credit score decisions must have outcomes that are identical for things when you control them for like protected classes.

    So a black man and a Korean woman should have identical outcomes if their income and their employment and stuff is all substantially identical.

    And if they don’t, right, if the Korean woman never gets the credit card loan, and the black man always does, and all controlling for everything else, everything else is equal, then, you know, you’ve got a race issue, possibly a gender issue, maybe both.

    But those are both protected classes.

    And so the the, what should be on the label on the box of that AI? Is this AI guarantees that it does not make decisions based on race or gender.

    Right? That’s what should be on the box.

    Is that what’s going to happen? Maybe it depends, like so many other things.

    I expect it to be a patchwork quilt of regulations that vary from country to country, region to region, some regions of the world, you’ll have very, very stringent requirements.

    For example, the EU is well known for having extremely stringent requirements on disclosing things right.

    There’s a whole bunch of chemicals and things that you know and manufactured consumer goods, flat out been in the EU perfectly fine in other countries.

    Now whether they’re actually safe or not nest The discussion topic, but what’s regulated is, and it would not surprise me if countries in the EU said, yeah, if you want to operate this AI here, here is what you must disclose.

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    That’s what I would hope to see in all forms of AI.

    And the the thing you may say is, well, you know, it’s marketing.

    It’s not like you’re you’re denying people loans or making healthcare decisions.

    It’s just marketing.

    It is it does marketing AI need regulation? Uh huh.

    Sure, it does.

    I was at an event a couple of years ago, and I was watching a presentation by a fairly well known insurance company.

    And this insurance company said, we are not permitted under by law to discriminate in the issuance of policies based on protected classes, right, we cannot discriminate based on race or gender, or religion, etc.

    And then very proudly on stage, these folks said, so what we’ve done is we’ve used machine learning to fine tune our marketing to make sure that less desirable people see our marketing.

    So if we’re not marketing to them, they’re less likely to buy and therefore we don’t have to deal with those decisions.

    Like, well, great, you just reinvented redlining.

    Thanks, redlining, if you’re not familiar with the term from the 1930s in America, which, which banks would draw red lines around districts of cities and say, We’re not going to do business at these places, they were typically black American places, typically poor places, typically, minorities of some kind or another.

    And redlining was declared illegal, a couple of decades later.

    And this company is up on stage touting its use of marketing AI, to effectively have reinvented redlining, but doing so in a way that it does adhere to the letter of the law, but violates the spirit of it.

    Because you don’t have to market some people.

    You don’t have to spend marketing dollars to reach some people, that is true.

    But the outcome is the same.

    And that’s the difference with AI.

    Right? Because we don’t necessarily know the inner workings of a deep neural network, we have to judge AI based on its outcomes, and whether or not we intend to discriminate, for example, if the machine does it, then it’s doing it.

    Right, whether or not that was our intent, if it’s doing it, that is the problem.

    And so we have to be very careful about regulating AI, not on the technology, not even on the data set, but on the outcome it delivers.

    And if it’s delivering outcomes that are unfair, in to turn it off, until we can fix the problem kill until it can demonstrate that fairness is at play.

    Right.

    And it’s really challenging, it’s a much more challenging proposition than you might think.

    Because when you deal with systemic biases, you get a lot of correlated outcomes, right? For people who are minorities, depending on the minority, there is a bias towards there’s a natural systemic bias says those people who are going to earn less money.

    So you may program in to say, Okay, we’re, we’re not going to use race at all, we’re only going to focus on judgments on income.

    Well, by default, you create an outcome, where there tends to be a bias against race, because it’s so tightly correlated with income.

    So in those cases, you need to be able to, to display in your algorithms in your models, that there are data points that show that race is not a factor, right? If you have a black man and a Korean woman, and they have the same income levels, right, they should have the same probability of being approved for a loan or showing a marketing email or whatever the case may be.

    That’s how you prove that.

    protected classes are not in play by showing multiple examples where the protected class is not a differentiating factor in the decisioning of the machinery.

    It’s very challenging.

    It is very challenging, it is costly.

    And this is another reason why companies don’t want to spend a whole lot of time on this and why it will have to be regulated because it is costly.

    It is financially costly and computationally costly.

    To prove that your machines are not doing bad things.

    But you have to do it.

    It has to be part and parcel of AI if it’s not.

    We’re going to create a world that’s not super fair, not super fun to live in.

    Right where if you are wherever you are in life in terms of income and jobs and and

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    pride Ducks and services you consume.

    If you don’t regulate for fairness in AI, the machines will reinforce everything around you to keep you where you are.

    So if you’re happy, and you’re with your lot in life, and you don’t care about advancing your career or what you buy and things like that, then that might be okay.

    But if you aspire to move up the staircase of, of whatever you consider success in life, by definition, the machines which have trained on the data, you’ve provided them, about where you’ve been in your life, in the past, will continue to make recommendations based on those things.

    Even if you as a person are no longer that person.

    Right? Can you imagine getting recommendations from where you were 10 years ago in your life, or 20 years ago? Some of us like the the younger folks that like I’d be getting recommendations that My Little Pony Well, yeah, that’s kind of the point.

    Right? The machines don’t adapt, unless they’re balanced for fairness and growth.

    And so you would continue to get my little pony ads, even though you’ve long outgrown them.

    That’s a fun example of what is otherwise a very insidious problem that is not visible, because we don’t know what the the expected outcomes are.

    So that’s where we need to go with regulation of AI.

    To say, these are the stated intended outcomes of this model.

    And this is how well it complies with it.

    And this is critical.

    Human law appropriately has, or should have the presumption of innocence.

    Right? You are innocent until proven guilty.

    You can be accused of a crime.

    But you are innocent of a crime until you proven guilty in a court of law.

    That should not apply to machines, machines aren’t sentient machines are not sapient they are not self aware.

    They do not have rights.

    And so, as we regulate AI until it does become self aware, that’s a different conversation.

    But today, we should be treating algorithms and models as guilty until proven innocent.

    You are seen to be discriminating, prove to me that you’re not right.

    If I accused an AI a machine a piece of code of being discriminatory one of the precedents we need to establish in law is that the machine is guilty until it can prove its innocence.

    That’s how we create a more equitable AI ecosystem.

    Presuming innocence Oh, no, it’s not doing that.

    That’s not the way to go.

    Not for machines for humans.

    Yes.

    For living creatures with essential software and have rights.

    innocent till proven guilty is the way to go.

    For machines, the opposite.

    That’s a key point.

    So really good question.

    Long, long answer.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: AI and Marketing for New Marketers?

    You Ask, I Answer: AI and Marketing for New Marketers?

    Molly asks, “What should people new to marketing know about AI as they start their careers?”

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    In today’s episode, Molly asks, What should people new to marketing know about marketing AI? As they start their careers? That’s a tough question as answer, because we don’t know.

    What we do know, what we have seen so far is that artificial intelligence and machine learning have done an exceptional job of taking away individual narrow tasks from people’s jobs.

    Right, the ability to write a press release, machines can write press releases now, not very good.

    But then again, most press releases aren’t very good either.

    So it’s, it all works out fine.

    Machines are getting very good at attribution analysis, things like that.

    So there are lots and lots of individual tasks.

    The thing I would say to people who are starting out in their careers, is that machines will continue to take away tasks, individual tasks, one at a time.

    And what this means for you, is that you’ve got to continue to focus on in your career tasks that are multidisciplinary in nature, because those are much, much harder for machines to replicate.

    If you’re good at just inbound sales, there are a whole bunch of things in that job that can get automated out from under you.

    On the other hand, if you’re good at inbound sales, and you’re good at psychology, you bring depth to that role, and to how you do your job, that machine’s would find very, very difficult to replicate.

    If you are a writer, you know, machines are starting to write content.

    But if you are a writer, and a subject matter expert in something that machines don’t have a lot of broad content to draw on.

    Again, very difficult.

    Remember that all artificial intelligence and machine learning is contingent upon having enough data to train a model, which is a machine written piece of software to replicate what has already been done in some fashion.

    That breaks down when you start having niches of content, or any any data where there isn’t enough of it.

    Right? We can teach machines to write press releases, because there are millions of press releases, and they’re all about the same say about the same thing, right? There’s companies like industry leading companies flexible, scalable turnkey solution, blah, blah, blah, quote from the CEO, the CEO didn’t write that the PR firm, in turn wrote, and then for more information, contact this person, right, we’ve seen those press releases a million times, a machine can write them with ease.

    Writing about the environmental impact of co2 on deep sea fish, there’s not a lot of content to start from.

    Right, there’s not a lot of content for a machine to learn from.

    And as a result, it will be very difficult for a machine to create new content on that topic.

    Because it didn’t have anything to train on.

    So when you think about your career, when you think about what you’re good at, and what you’ll be asked to do, ask how commonplace the existing task is, right? If you’re worried something’s going to get taken away by machines.

    How commonplace is the task? I need to write a sales email? Well, guess what? That’s something that there’s millions of examples for and most of them are about the same.

    Right? I need to write a blog post about marketing automation.

    Well, there’s hundreds of 1000s of those.

    So that’s pretty easy for machines to learn.

    I need to write a blog post about a billion billionaires acquisition of a social network, and its implications for privacy legislation.

    Not a whole lot has been written about that particular angle.

    Right.

    So the there’s what’s called sparseness, the sparseness of data in that line of inquiry.

    And so a lot of models, when they try to generate content on something so niche will come up with generic platitudes, maybe, and maybe a few usable sentences, but for the most part, you’re going to keep getting word salad.

    language models, in particular have not figured out how to deal with sparsity in niches yet.

    The more you are multidisciplinary, the more you have very specialized knowledge.

    The more that you can combine things together in ways that are unusual, the harder it is for a machine to do those things.

    Right.

    If you are somebody who is very strong in the visual arts, and you’re somebody who’s good at sales, you’ll be able to create sales pitches and sales collateral that machines do can’t dream of because there’s not enough data for it.

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    Right? An easy way to think about testing things out, is to take a topic that maybe you’re going to create something on or a task you’re going to do.

    And just do a Google search for it.

    See how much existing content there is about that thing.

    If Google spits back, sorry, didn’t find any really good results.

    That’s a good sign.

    That’s a sign that you found something that the machines, there isn’t enough content for machines to learn about, because Google is real good about finding stuff.

    On the other hand, if you type in something, and Google’s like, Here’s page one of 500 million, like, okay, there’s plenty of opportunity to hear from machines to learn, and replicate, and maybe even learn just the best stuff.

    Right? Maybe they can, there’s so much content on that thing that they can replicate the top 10% Only and deliver better than average results than a human could.

    Because, again, there’s so many examples to train from.

    That’s what to think about as you start your career.

    Or even if you’re in the middle of your career, or even coming close, you know, on the tail end of your career, artificial intelligence will replicate the most common things.

    So look at your job, look at your calendar, look at your inbox.

    What are the most common things in there? Those are the things that machines will start to handle and increasingly more and more just taking more of those away.

    What are the things that are unusual? And again, look in your inbox? What are those one off weird requests, you get that nobody else could do? Right? So things to think about in your career, especially if you’re early on in your career, is what do people come to you for? That they don’t go to anybody else? There’s nobody else in your company.

    We even in your industry, that they would even dream of going to that is something that AI is going to have a real hard time taking away because of your it the only person that machines can learn from as you so give that some thought.

    Really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Personal Brands and Businesses?

    You Ask, I Answer: Personal Brands and Businesses?

    Jeremy asks, “How should content entrepreneurs think about their personal brands and their businesses?”

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    In today’s episode, Jeremy asks, How should content entrepreneurs think about their personal brands and their businesses? Should they be separate? Maybe it depends it this is one of those questions where it depends is the answer.

    Because it depends on the situation? It depends on your brand’s focus.

    It depends on your overall strategy and outcome.

    What kind of business objective Are you going towards? Right? If you want to run a lifestyle, business, meaning a business, where it’s it’s part of your life, but you have a life outside of it, and you want to a business is profitable, but not necessarily you’re looking to exit or sell or, you know, 10x, your return or whatever, crazy things people are saying these days, then having that personal brand reinforce your business might be the thing, right? There are a lot of people who make very successful long term businesses on their personal brand.

    Right? There their name is the business.

    Take somebody like Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? His entire business is his name and his brand.

    Other businesses, if the intent is to sell or to transition, or to flip it or something, yeah, your personal brand being deeply entangled with it can cause issues, because you then have a difficult time transitioning that business to somebody else, right? Once you’ve sold it off, a lot of the value is in your name.

    And you might have difficulty getting a buyer, even if they perceive that too much of the value is is tied up in your name.

    And they know that the name is not going to come with the business not in the long term.

    They might say yeah, we’re we’re either not going to buy your business, or we’re going to offer you less than we would have if the business was truly portable.

    So it depends on your exit strategy.

    For marketers who are working inside of a business, this is where it gets really sticky.

    So for a number of years, I loaned my personal brand, my name and stuff to different companies, blue sky factory, what counts, shifts, communications, et cetera.

    And those businesses did very well with the brand and the audience that I was gathering.

    But every time I made a transition, my audience went with me and didn’t necessarily stick with the business.

    From my perspective, that was a good thing.

    From the businesses perspective, less so.

    But also, because a lot of the folks I worked for were not particularly thinking about the long term strategy, they were really thinking about shorter term results, it wasn’t a substantial long term problem, I still provided a lot of value to those businesses, and things.

    So if you work inside of a business that you don’t own, you are not a decision maker.

    And you do have to think about your personal brand.

    And how tied to the business it is what is it that you are known for? What does it you want to be known for? And how tightly coupled is it to the business? If it’s something that you want to be able to move from company to company, when you’re in your space, you’d be very careful about things like your employment agreement.

    You need to have a lawyer looking at your employment agreement and making adjustments to it.

    So at the last two companies I worked at before I signed on as an employee, I had my lawyers look at the employment agreement.

    And we made some stipulations, we said these things are work for hire, meaning that I work for the company and these are the things that become the companies.

    These other things are not my personal newsletter is not part of the company.

    My at the time I only podcast marketing over coffee, not part of the company would never be part of the company.

    And the employer had to sign off on that.

    Otherwise, I wouldn’t have been able to work there.

    Or I would have had to make concessions, one of the two.

    But fortunately, everybody agreed.

    Okay, that was good enough that we kept these things separate from these things.

    If you work at a company right now, where you haven’t looked at your employment agreement in detail, I would.

    I would look very carefully to see how widely scoped your employment agreement is.

    If the company says everything you do is ours, including what you do outside work

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    might be time to change companies.

    Right? And as you do make sure that the next company you work for when you get that agreement, you have a lawyer look at it and say, Okay, we’re agreed that the stuff that you do on company equipment during business hours is the company’s you don’t have a claim to it.

    But everything you do outside of the company on your own time on your own equipment, that’s yours, and the company has no claim to it.

    Right? That’s something that you have to think about very carefully.

    Because there are a fair number of companies that do have an all inclusive clause in the employment agreement, saying if you come up with anything, if you create a, a million dollar YouTube channel about basket weaving, right, and the company makes concrete, you know, relationship, the company can still lay a legal claim to your YouTube channel.

    If you signed an agreement that says everything and anything you do will come as companies.

    So look real carefully.

    At the agreements, you sign and hire a lawyer, right? Find a lawyer, hire a lawyer.

    Because it’s expensive upfront, but it’s really expensive on the back end, when you’re in court being sued, if you don’t straighten those things out.

    So if you are planning an exit, disentangle your personal brand as much as you can, if you’re not if you’re planning on making it a long term bid, you might not have to, and if you don’t own the company, be very careful about keeping your personal brand and the company very much Church and State keep them separated if you don’t want some serious headaches, so really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Unique Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Unique Content Marketing?

    Jeremy asks, “How do you make unique, better content for content marketing?”

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    In today’s video, Jeremy asks, How do you make unique, better content for content marketing? How do you continue to improve your content? Here’s the thing, if you’re doing content marketing, and you, as an individual are doing content marketing, like this video, for example, you’re already unique in some aspect, right? Because it’s you.

    Nobody else could be in my video except me, and still haven’t been my content.

    Right? Just simple logic.

    How do you make better content comes down to what is it that your content supposed to do? Right? What is the purpose of the content for your audience? Not for your business, not for your company, your brand, your organization, your marketing objectives, whatever? Put that aside.

    What is your content marketing supposed to do for your audience? What value does it provide them? If you don’t have a clear answer to that question, it’s going to be really difficult to make better content because you don’t know what good content is.

    Right? Good content we’ve talked in the past has to pass the three l test.

    Right? Did you laugh when you made it? Do you love it so much that you talk to your significant other or friends or whatever, about unsolicited unprompted? And they’re like really tired of hearing about it? What did you learn something, when you’re putting that content together? Right? content has to be educational, to some degree, it has to be entertaining some degree, and has to be emotionally engaging.

    And if your content doesn’t do any of those things, that’s a good place to start.

    Right? That is a great place to start improving your content.

    Ask yourself which of those three axes engaging, entertaining, or educational? Which is your content strongest? And which is your content weakest in? And then based on that information? What should you be doing more of? And there’s a couple of different perspectives on this.

    If you were really good educational content, but you’re not really focused on the entertainment aspect, that’s okay.

    There are still ways to create something that’s educational, as long as it’s emotionally engaging, right? So of those three E’s, you need to add three, you need to add three, educational alone isn’t enough if that were a true, college professors would be the most followed people on YouTube, right? That’s we know that’s not true.

    Just because something’s educational does not mean it’s entertaining, or emotionally engaging.

    So what of those other two things can you get down and improve upon? It doesn’t mean that you have to do all kinds of crazy stuff, it just means that you’ve got to be able to connect with people.

    Part of that is understanding what is your audience wants.

    And a big part of that, is thinking about content as a sale, right is the sale of an idea.

    In order to sell something, somebody has to make an emotional decision.

    Because that’s how we buy, right? We that’s how we accept new things, we make an emotional decision, and then we use all of our rational brain to justify our emotional reaction.

    So what emotions does your content satisfy? What emotions does your content fulfill? Is your content reassuring? Right? Is that help supposed to help somebody feel more secure, more safe? More insulated from harm or risk? Is your content supposed to be angering, right? There is nothing wrong from a strategic perspective, but content that makes people angry because it inspires an emotional reaction.

    Every politician, regardless of philosophy, or perspective, understands the value of pissing people off.

    Right, because it’s how you energize a population, give them something to fight against, give them something to fight for.

    Making better content is about improving those reactions in your audience.

    You know, one of the things that I’m looking at right now it as a speaker is I just got to get down here.

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    It’s got a 360 degree camera.

    Why I want to be able to video during my talks my whole audience.

    I want to see how they react when I’m saying something, right.

    I don’t care about how I react.

    I know how I react.

    It’s the audience themselves.

    I want to know, like, during parts of my talk are people like this? Right, knowing that I’m not engaging them, I’m not saying things that keep their attention.

    On the other hand, I’m looking for those points when people viscerally react.

    How carefully Are you keeping track of your audience’s reactions? I just sent out my newsletter for this week, and I’ve got a decent number of replies in my inbox.

    From people who’s felt very strongly about the topic that I was presenting on this week about AI and inequality.

    Some weeks, I send out a newsletter, nothing, no retweets, no shares, no comments, no replies.

    And those are the weeks that I think content didn’t land.

    Right.

    Other weeks, the inbox fills up, right? Some weeks.

    It’s really busy.

    And those are the weeks I know, the content landed, right? It’s stuck with people, it resonated with people they consumed, and they’re like, I need to say something or do something with this content.

    So if you want to make better content, keep track of what you get reactions to what do people have to say? What do people think? What do you how do people feel about the content you’re making? And if you never get any reactions, you know, you’ve got probably two, or even all three of the three E’s missing from your content, if it’s just not resonating with people.

    On the other hand, if people are like, yeah, I gotta hit reply and tell you exactly how I feel.

    Even if they are telling you that you’re wrong.

    You’re still landed, right? Even if you say something people like, Ah, so I don’t think that’s how it’s done at all.

    That’s okay.

    Because you’ve engaged people, you’ve elicited a reaction, you’ve provoked their emotions in some way.

    Bear in mind that, from an emotional perspective, pissing people off all the time is not a sustainable long term strategy.

    I’ll just put that caution out there.

    It does work for a long time.

    But it has deleterious effects in that people associate your brand with being angry.

    And that’s probably not, again, not the best long term strategy for for marketers.

    Now, if you’re a politician, again, you can make a lot of hay, making people angry all the time, but for marketers, probably not the best overall strategy.

    So that’s some thoughts on how you make unique better content for any kind of marketing, not just content marketing, any kind of marketing at all.

    Good question.

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    This week, I was talking with the Trust Insights team about our marketing strategy, looking at our April results. I said something kind of funny: let’s just jettison our SEO focus. Now, on the surface, that seems kind of silly, doesn’t it? Ignoring a channel you don’t pay for seems like a poor idea. But let me dig into the reasoning behind this.

    When I started doing what we now call SEO, back in the 90s, there were no artificial intelligence algorithms at work. There were no deep neural networks, no fancy recommendation engines, and during that time, small companies had a real shot at being found as often and as prominently as big companies.

    When deep neural networks really started becoming the backbone of search engines (around 2015), the game changed. What happened? Big web properties became bigger, ranked better, accrued more traffic and attention. Small web properties got squeezed out for top volume searches.

    Why? It has nothing to do with SEO. It’s not a global conspiracy to let big corporations win. It’s much simpler than that.

    Inequality is built into AI with a bias towards letting bigger entities win.

    Here’s the simple explanation. To build an AI model – which is fancy for machine-written software – you need data. You need a LOT of data. There’s a reason Google gives away so many services like Google Photos, Google Voice, Google Search, etc. Their AI models need material to train on, so the more they collect – and the more we volunteer – the better the models perform.

    Well, when you’re ranking content, who can create better content at scale? Brands that have the budget and resources to do so. It’s that simple. A company that has 5 employees on its content marketing team will inherently create less content than a company that has 500 employees on its content marketing team.

    And when you’re building an AI to return search results and you crawl the web, weeding out the obvious crap, you’re left with what? A pile of good content where by simple mathematics, more of that content was created by larger organizations that had the resources to build it.

    Add in features like Google’s reliance on “Expertise/Authority/Trustworthiness” (as documented in their Search Quality Ratings Guidelines), and you have an even bigger bias towards larger brands with larger budgets. Why? Who do you trust? You trust entities you’ve had positive experiences with, and you trust brands that deliver consistent experiences – as well as investing heavily in brandbuilding.

    Thus, by definition again, a brand that can put a million Euros into brand building is going to have more recognition, authority, and trust than a brand that doesn’t invest in brand building.

    Here’s a simple thought exercise:

    • Name a coffee shop brand.
    • Name a fast food brand.
    • Name a store brand you shop in.
    • Name a mobile phone manufacturer.

    Did any of the choices you mentally summoned just now spend nothing and no effort on brand building? Probably not. Chances are you thought of brands that invest incredible amounts of money and effort in brand building.

    Because of its nature of needing a lot of data to build models, AI will always favor the larger data sources. And larger data sources will correlate strongly with larger brands and larger budgets, because that’s who can afford to create the data that AI needs to train on.

    So what are you supposed to do if you don’t have big budgets? How do you survive in a world where the deck is firmly stacked against you by big budget competitors and artificial intelligence algorithms working against you?

    Wind back the clock 50 years. How did small businesses stay alive in a world where all media was controlled by large corporations and they had absolutely no voice? Three simple things worked for challenger brands.

    1. Create a product/service that is substantially better. This is table minimum. If your product or service isn’t noticeably better to your customers, your marketing efforts will be in vain. Get this right first.
    2. Create a community. Whether it’s something modern like a Discord server or something old school like a mailing list, have a way for people to interact with you – especially your most loyal, ardent fans. This is your insurance policy against AI – when customers spread news of your brand by word of mouth through communications channels that aren’t mediated by algorithms – like chat groups, SMS, direct messages, emails, etc. – AI can’t interfere with the spread of your brand.
    3. Create a memorable brand. At the end of the day, search engines can’t interfere with customers if customers don’t have to search for you. If you are top of mind in your customers’ heads, they will turn to you directly instead of needing an intermediary. There’s no way for an AI algorithm to intercept you typing in my company’s URL directly in your browser.

    So how will I be putting this to work? Have I given up on SEO? Sort of. As we discussed in our team meeting this week, we’re pivoting towards a strategy of SEO as a nice-to-have, rather than a core marketing channel. We’ll still create great content, but our intent and our focus is to create content that real people – you – actually ask for, because we know at least one person will read it!

    We’ve been saying since 2006 on Marketing Over Coffee that the most sound SEO strategy in the world is to operate as though there were no search engines at all, that Google didn’t exist. That strategy is more true now than ever. How would you market if search didn’t exist at all? How would you stay in front of customers, remind them that you exist in ways that still provide them value? Whatever that strategy is, do it.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Make Epic Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Make Epic Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks the very interesting question, “what do you try to do with your content marketing to make it epic?”

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks the very interesting question, what do you try to do with your content marketing to make it epic? I don’t in the sense of, if we look at the three E’s of content, marketing, engaging, educational, and entertaining.

    I’m not necessarily all that great at entertaining.

    In fact, I know I’m not very good at it at entertaining, right? You’re not here for the music, or the lively commentary, or the dancing or whatever, right? The the entertaining angle is largely missing from my content marketing, I am aware of that.

    And I am aware of my limitations as a person as a creator.

    That’s not my my thing.

    That’s not my jam.

    And for the very best content, the content that does really well on YouTube, or Twitter or Facebook or whatever, you need at least two to three, right? You need to be have something that’s emotionally engaging, entertaining, and educational, two out of the three are mandatory, you can do one out of three, he’ll have okay content, right.

    And of course, if you have none of the three, you have terrible content.

    But one out of three isn’t good enough anymore, you need at least two out of three.

    And if you want to succeed in a disproportionate manner, you need all three.

    So the question is, how do you how do you increase your, your scores and e to the three E’s, I feel like I do, okay, on educational on being able to share information that is useful and helpful to people.

    Right, I feel like that’s a reasonably good condition.

    I’ve been working for the last four or five years, on the engaging part, I’m sharing more things that are less purely data, and more points of view and perspectives, things come from my life, things that come from my experience, and therefore, I can speak credibly on them.

    But on the entertainment angle, not a whole lot to show for right now, I do do some art and things here and there.

    And of course, you know, my background in the martial arts is one angle of that sort of expression.

    But I’m not going to start punching people on live video.

    I mean, I could, but it wouldn’t be brand aligned with the kind of content we’re trying to create.

    So my focus is on creating content that is more and more useful.

    And that is more and more engaging, and leaving entertainment out for the time being until I figure out a way to make it consistent with what I want to be known for.

    What I want my company be known for, and most of all, what an audience wants.

    Right what you want, when you’re watching this video, why are you watching this video, you’re hoping probably to learn something like the three E’s of content marketing.

    And the reverse side, the flip side is what I call the three l test, which for me, as a creator in you, as a creator, is a test you have to apply to your content.

    And it stands for laugh, learn love, right? As you create a piece of content, did you learn something? Right? If you didn’t learn anything, when you were putting together a piece of content, and you’re already the subject matter expert, or would like to be, then your audience probably isn’t learning anything either.

    Right? If you just learned something and you’re sharing it, like, hey, check out this cool thing I just learned about chances are, at least somebody else in your audience also didn’t know that, and would benefit from learning from it.

    If you don’t love your content that you’re creating, as you’re creating it enough that you’re willing to share it with people that have no interest in it just because you’re so excited about it.

    That’s a good sign, right? If you take a video like this, and you share it with a friend who’s not ever, ever ever going to be a customer, or consume your marketing there’s that shows that you’ve you yourself have at least been emotionally engaged in your content.

    Right? If you don’t love your own content, no one else is going to love it either.

    Right? If you don’t talk about it to your significant other or your dog or whatever.

    Why would anybody else talk about your content with someone else? What is it that you really love? about your content, do you love making it and if you don’t,

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    maybe it’s time to put a pause on what you’re doing for content marketing and figure out an angle of something that you do love doing that can be coerced into a marketing function, right there.

    There’s no shortage of different ways to apply art, to marketing and to business.

    My, my graduate thesis when I graduated from business school, was on telling the story of migrating a company to modern IT infrastructure, right.

    And the usual format for presentations was a big, big old pile of PowerPoints, and some charts and graphs and things in total snooze fest, right.

    I ended up writing and drawing mine as a medieval tale, right? We have, you know, dragons of information, ignorance and castles of, of it servers.

    And it was at least a different creative spin on what is otherwise a commodity topic.

    I loved it so much I was engaged with an emotionally when I made it, that it resonated well, and even had, you know, an aspect of the entertainment built into it.

    But laugh is the third one, did you your content elicits laughter, or some kind of entertaining statement from you as you’re making it.

    Right? Even now, as I’m recording this thinking back to, you know, my, my graduate thesis does make me laugh, because it was it was a ridiculous project.

    But at that point, I was so fed up with programs like yeah, I’m just gonna do this.

    And whatever grade I get is fine.

    Because as the joke goes, what do you call the person who graduated last their medical class school class called Doctor.

    As long as I passed, that was fine.

    The diploma is the diploma.

    And thinking back through these things, the ability to tell stories and stuff that’s entertainment, too.

    So I don’t try to make my content epic.

    I try to pass my own test the three L’s did I laugh while I was making it? Do you learn something while I was making it, or at least learn a different angle? And do I love it, I love it so much that I will tell my dog about it, even though my dog is never going to consume my content.

    If you pass those tests, honestly, then your content is going to be great.

    But you’ve got to be honest with yourself.

    And if you ask most marketers to take a step back, how much did you honestly love the last email newsletter you made?

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    The answer a substantial amount of time was gonna be I got my job done.

    I got it.

    It’s off my to do list has done.

    Well, it’s done doesn’t mean you loved it.

    Did you love that newsletter know, your audience is gonna love it either.

    I was writing the Trust Insights newsletter for tomorrow.

    And it’s not, you know, it’s not my entire production.

    It’s, it’s a collaborative effort.

    But the part that I wrote, I love that part.

    I truly love that part.

    It’s I’m digging into how we did our version of NPS scores, and it was fun to and digging into the implications.

    And I really love that part of the newsletter that I wrote, when I write my own personal newsletter, I love writing my email newsletter.

    It’s one of the highlights of my week, because I get to communicate to you what I’m working on what I’m thinking about things that might be helpful to you.

    And getting that feedback is is so important to use these capabilities to do some good in the world.

    So that’s what I do instead of trying to make great content marketing and make something epic.

    Make something that passes the three l test.

    Apply the three L tests to your content.

    Be honest with yourself.

    And then once you realize it, your content probably doesn’t pass those tests.

    Start thinking okay, of those three dimensions laugh, learn, love, entertain, engage, educate, which one can you start improving today? Really good question.

    I hope this was useful answer

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Epic Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Makes Epic Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “What do you think make some content marketing epic?””

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks, What do you think make some content marketing epic? I’m assuming by Epic, we mean something that’s cool or great and not the geological age.

    You know, with content marketing, there’s the three E’s of content, marketing the things and really of all marketing things that everything that works has to have in some combination, entertaining, educating, and engaging, right.

    So if your content can do at least one of those, well, it’s going to fulfill its purpose.

    If it does two of those, well, it’s probably going to stand out.

    And if you can manage to do all three, you will sort of hit the jackpot.

    So we’re talking about content that entertains not just educates because education is fine anyway, the part imparting of information, that’s a useful thing.

    But we know that just because something educational doesn’t mean it’s fun to watch, right, college was educational, and how many of your college classes did you flip through, even though education was being imparted? So that entertaining aspect really is important.

    To be able to engage people emotionally is important, right? A piece of content doesn’t necessarily have to amuse us, but it should absolutely incite some form of emotional reaction.

    When it engages us.

    All of our decision making as people are based on emotions, right? We make decisions emotionally, and then we look for all the data to back that up to rationalize our decisions.

    So the best content does all three, you look at some of the most popular YouTube channels that don’t have a single state purpose, like Yeah, obviously, your musician predominantly is going to be entertaining and engaging, right, and probably not a ton of education on those channels.

    But the you know, the best musicians do those things very well.

    But look at something like, for example, Google foods on YouTube, or bow of the fifth column.

    These are channels that they agitate, they do entertain, and they engage and maybe score yourself, score your content, score other people’s content on those three dimensions, you will find that the very best stuff tops the charts in all three, you know, in those examples, the channel at Google foods, highly entertaining, right, just a bunch of guys cooking a lot of beef, very educational, lots of experiments, lots of fun, you know, trying to tenderize beef with sparkling water and a variety of other things, and engaging in getting people to react, figuring out character arcs for their various on air hosts, I think all those things make for really great content marketing, and then look at content marketing, that doesn’t top those charts, right? Look at your average white paper, or webinar or ebook, or what have you.

    It becomes pretty clear that’s like, Okay, this is this is educational, I have to do this, watch this thing for my job or read this thing for my job.

    But it’s not thrilling, right? Look at the content that you have that you procrastinate on consuming.

    Right, you know that you should read that ebook.

    You know, you should read that documentation.

    But you don’t why? Because it may be educational, but it’s not entertaining, it’s not engaging.

    And that’s the part that is really tricky with a lot of guidance has been given about content marketing.

    There are excellent, excellent sources.

    You know, Marcus Sheridan, they ask you answer is a really good example Jay Baer is utility is really good concept.

    But both of those resources and all the contents have been created around being helpful as as a content marketing strategy doesn’t have that nuance of being entertaining and engaging.

    Right? It does, you can be 100% useful, but it’s really hard to capture attention.

    And the reason for that is because these devices present the world’s best entertainment than most engaging content and things and your content has got to at least have some of those ingredients or you’re one tap away from a better choice, right? We are not competing against our competitors, right my company trust tenocytes is not just competing against McKinsey or KPMG, or whatever another consulting firm, we’re competing against Netflix, right? We’re competing against YouTube, we’re competing against

    Christopher Penn 5:13

    Bryan Adams or Celine Dion or Aerosmith, or Metallica.

    Anything that the consumer you are spending your time on is time you’re not spending with me.

    Right? So I have to figure out how do I earn more of that time.

    And it means that I need to look at all three of those dimensions, I’ve got to figure out what those dimensions mean, for me and my content and my brand.

    How do I entertain? How do I engage? How do I educate? And how do I improve on all three dimensions, there’s certainly no shortage of gimmicks and things that you can do.

    But at the very least, you’ve got to figure out what things work for you and your brand.

    And that’s really, really difficult.

    Because a lot of the things that work for other people, especially on the entertainment angle, and even on the emotional engagement angle, they don’t work for me, right? I’m not that person, I don’t have that person’s life experience, I don’t have that person’s unique point of view on the world, I have my own.

    So a big part of making your content marketing, epic, is making yourself individually and as a brand, as an organization as a marketing organization, self aware, knowing what is within reach and what is not within reach inventorying the talents of your people.

    Right? What skills do you have outside of marketing that you can bring into your market? And can you paint? Right? This is you know, that’s not a really good example, because I did that with a water gun.

    Can you draw? Can you sing? Can you compose? What are the forms of expression that you’re really good at? And how do you bring that into your work so that a it’s more difficult to replicate and be it’s unique, right? There’s only one you even as a company, even as an organization, there’s only one of your company and the way that your marketing works, is tied to that.

    So that’s what makes content marketing epic.

    When you are fully aligned with your brand, your self, your history, who you are, and you are hitting all three E’s and you’re doing it well.

    That’s how you get to Epic Content Marketing.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for the Future of Content Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for the Future of Content Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Brian asks, “any predictions on what might happen with content marketing in the next 10 years?”

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks any predictions on what might happen with content marketing in the next 10 years? No.

    Nope.

    can’t predict that no idea.

    Absolutely no idea.

    And here’s why.

    In the last four years, natural language generation, the ability for machines to write to create content has leaped from crap to mediocre, which is a huge leap.

    It’s a big, big move.

    Until about 2018, machines could barely put words together.

    And it didn’t make sense.

    At the end, you know, they were really useless.

    And then around 2018, we started getting these transformer based models, BERT and Bart, and GPT, and so on, so on and so forth.

    That because of the their technology, the way they use embeddings, and stuff, they’re able to put together much more coherent language and create content that’s mediocre.

    They can write press releases, like nobody’s business, the business of writing press releases, is going out of business, because machines can do it better.

    Yeah, great.

    Nobody reads them, right.

    I’ve been saying for years.

    Nobody reads their child press releases before bedtime.

    Right? Nobody, unless you really want to put your kid to sleep fast.

    But we read stories to our kids all the time.

    So that’s just four years, we’ve had a quantum leap, or I should say, a big leap, because it’s not technically quanta computing.

    We had a big leap in four years.

    What’s going to happen? The next 10? Who knows? Because we’re already seeing some amazing leaps ahead in a lot of these much bigger transforming models, and how we use them, how we distill them down how we do hyper parameter tuning on them.

    We have a huge question mark.

    In technology of quantum computing, quantum computing, is a type of computing, using the principles of quantum physics that much more closely mimics how the human brain works, right? Our brains are really amazing.

    They’re these massive networks of relatively slow processors, right? That are just meshed together as huge network.

    And the processors are analog, they’re not zeros and ones, they’re graded as zero and one everything in between them, there are certain thresholds after which a processor will output something.

    That’s how nerves work your your the nerve cells in your brain.

    Quantum Computing, is starting to be able to do the same thing right now we’ve got a computer that is stable at about 100 qubits, which would be like a human brain with 100 cells.

    But as the technology improves, as we can stabilize it, we can deal with the temperature issues.

    Expect to see you know, 200 cubits 500 cubits, and then at a certain point, these machines which by the way, we operate at the speed of light, and our brains operate far below that, we’ll be able to do the kind of fuzzy thinking that the human brain is really good at that could happen in the next 10 years.

    Right.

    And if that does, that will radically change all forms of computing, because machines will then be able to think in non binary terms, they will be able to make decisions that have shades of gray, as opposed to just yes or no zero or one.

    And that would change content marketing forever, because at that point, a machine could be able to start understanding what it’s creating.

    If you look at the natural language processing models that exist today.

    They no matter how complex they are, no matter how good the content, they seem clear, they have no actual understanding, the machine does not understand what it’s saying.

    If you type in the sentence, five plus four equals right, or 22 plus 19, equals none of these machines will write one of the mathematical answers because they are not reading the texts.

    They’re not understanding what they’re saying.

    But what if you were to introduce that kind of fuzzy thinking, that becomes possible for them to start to create cognition within machinery.

    And that’s at the point where you can start getting things like artificial general intelligence machines, with sentience with sapiens.

    And then we have to have some very existential conscious conversations about humanity in general.

    But that’s that’s still ways off.

    But within the next 10 years, who knows,

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    we can look at technology itself and say that the amount of information being generated continues to increase exponentially that is true, is verifiable.

    The devices that we use to create content are getting better, faster and cheaper every single day.

    Our ability to create immersive content, now used to be an extremely expensive now you can buy a 360 degree camera off of amazon for like $500 and have a quick good results that you can use in a virtual reality headset.

    So there’s no way to know what’s going to happen in 10 years, even five years, we just don’t know.

    But what we do know is what’s not going to change.

    We know people will always want things better, faster and cheaper, right, get more pay less people always want that people always want to be educated, to be entertained, to be engaged emotionally, in the content they consume, those things are not changing.

    And if we focus on fulfilling those needs, right, we will do well.

    Consumers and content consumers have embraced mobility, right? This sort of thing, not as much because this is ugly, heavy and looks stupid.

    This is everywhere.

    Mobility first is unlikely to change.

    The form factors may change how the devices function may change.

    But the idea of having the world’s publicly available knowledge in your pocket, not going to change anytime soon.

    Right? The idea of frictionless interactions, you know, you open up your device, you swipe right and a car appears at your doorstep or groceries appear or a date appears right? These things are part and parcel of this frictionless world when and that expectation of the frictionless transaction is not going away.

    Consumers want things to be easier and easier.

    And B2B, B2C doesn’t matter.

    We all want these things.

    And we are all getting these things in some degree from this device, which means that this is the bar we have to live up to.

    And we’ve all become accustomed to thinking less.

    We have recommendation engines showing us what to read what to listen to what to watch next, what to buy.

    And those recommendations.

    We like them.

    We like them a lot.

    We still ask our friends and listen.

    And there’s still play a place for serendipity.

    But we have to think a whole lot less than we used to 10 years ago.

    Find me some new music.

    Now.

    Spotify will split up here’s eight new tracks that you might like, right? What should I watch next? Next, Netflix will tell you or YouTube will tell you.

    What should I buy next Amazon more than happy to tell you what to buy next.

    So those are the things that aren’t changing.

    And if our content marketing is aligned with these trends, then no matter what happens with it, we will be irrelevant.

    It’s only when we get away from the things that people never change on that we run into trouble.

    So that’s my non predictions for the next 10 years.

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    As I was packing for a short trip to my folks, I looked at the motley assortment of electronics and other things I brought along. What stood out for me was what I considered the bare minimum I needed to get my job done while mobile. My laptop and my phone are the bare minimums I need to get things done. Take away any one of those, and I’d be in a boatload of trouble. (it goes without saying that reliable Internet access and reliable electricity are part of this, but I don’t pack those)

    That’s not to say those are the tools I need to be optimal, to get the most done. Those are the bare basics, the essentials, the showstoppers. Certainly, things like a desk, a good mouse, a large external monitor, a solid keyboard, etc. are all tools that help me to get stuff done faster and better. But if I had to go without, I could go without all those things and still be mostly effective.

    You probably have a similar list. You’ve got things that you MUST have to do your work, and things that are nice-to-haves.

    So here’s the thought exercise, the question: when it comes to your marketing, what are the essentials you cannot do without, and what are the nice-to-haves?

    For me, it’s you via this email list. Without my email marketing, I’d be in a world of hurt. I couldn’t have even started Trust Insights a few years ago without your assistance, without you being part of my email community.

    Certainly, things like organic search and social media are nice and deliver some results, but email is the name of the game for me. If I were starting over, growing a loyal email audience would be my first, highest priority. Nothing else comes close in terms of effectiveness, both short and long term.

    My second choice, and a relatively new entrant to the field for me, is my private social media community. If you haven’t already joined, join the free Slack group over at Analytics for Marketers. Private social media communities are incredibly impactful – a chance to get to know your favorite people and your biggest fans without being moderated or mediated by big tech social media algorithms. Services like Slack, Discord, and Mattermost would be the technologies which enable these sorts of communities; the conversations that occur in them are largely invisible to search engines and other ways for people to programmatically monitor them.

    While private social media communities may not have hundreds of thousands or millions of followers to offer that mainstream social networks do, they offer a level of interconnectedness not found in those networks. It’s easier to develop real friendships, real professional and personal relationships in private social media communities. Of all the different technology options facing marketers now, private social media communities are one of the best choices for building a strong, loyal audience.

    Those are my marketing must-haves, the minimums that I would consider doing marketing with. Without them, my ability to execute well on marketing would be severely constrained.

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    You Ask, I Answer: Most Important Content Marketing KPIs?

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    In today’s episode, Brian asks, In your opinion, what are the most important or insightful data points to track to ensure that your content marketing is effective? Is anybody there? Anybody consuming my content? And then are people doing what we want them to do after they consume the content? Might awareness, engagement conversion? Those are the data points and what those metrics are vary on the content, right? Well, podcast is going to have some different numbers than a YouTube video is going to have some different numbers than a white paper or an ebook, or blog post or newsletter.

    They’re all gonna have different numbers.

    But those are the three big categories.

    Awareness is the first and most important with content marketing, if nobody’s reading, or watching or listening, everything else doesn’t matter.

    And while some folks will rant about the importance of vanity metrics, or how pointless they are, like how many followers you have, or how many subscribers do you have, if the number zero, you’ve got a problem, where things like vanity metrics run into trouble, of course, people think that is the goal.

    It’s not the goal, but it’s a goal on the way to a business outcome.

    And if that number is zero, nothing else matters.

    It’s it’s your standard top, middle and bottom of the funnel, what’s happening at each of these stages? And how is content playing a role in each of those stages? content has to fit intent.

    Right? There’s so there’s four basic intents, there is, I’m trying to figure out the problem is number one.

    Number two is I figured out the problem, I’m trying to figure out how to solve it, it’s to number three is I figured out the problem, I figure out how to solve and I need to figure out who I’m going to do business with.

    And number four is I bought the thing to solve my problem.

    Is it solving my problem, which is essentially, awareness, engagement, conversion and retention.

    We know these metrics, we have these metrics in every piece of marketing software that worth its salt, or you know, at least in our tech stack.

    But we don’t ever really spend a lot enough time telling the story of it along the way.

    What content you have for retention is not the content that is going to be great for awareness, right? Here’s how to use our product is very useful for retaining customers, here’s how to get the most of our product.

    If someone doesn’t even know what their problem is that content is not going to help them.

    Right, here’s a instruction manual on this video camera.

    Do and the person you know the awareness person’s like, I don’t even know if I need a video camera.

    And so those are the data points to look at.

    And then map them to the individual pieces of content.

    If you think about setting up conversions, and something like Gale, say Google Analytics.

    And you were to then map out the content that participated in each of those conversions, you should see content in different places, right? Your white paper probably shouldn’t, depending on the white papers topic.

    A white paper might not be an awareness generator, but it might be an engagement generator, who could be a conversion generator.

    But where do you intend for it to be? And here’s the part that goes wrong with all content marketing analytics.

    You don’t do anything with it.

    Seth Godin said this best if you’re not going to change what you eat, or how often you exercise don’t get on the scale.

    Right? You’re gonna you’re collecting data that is going to make you feel bad.

    And you’re not willing to change with your content marketing, if you’re measuring awareness, engagement and conversion and retention.

    If you don’t do anything different, why bother? There’s no.

    So what is my business partner and friend, Katie robear, would say, No.

    So what what are you going to do with this information? What decisions are you going to make? What actions are you going to take? If you say that your awareness numbers are low? And then that’s it, you hand off the slide and your monthly report and then you move on with your day.

    And you didn’t change what you’re doing to generate awareness, then you shouldn’t have bothered putting together in the first place.

    It was just a waste of your time.

    On the other hand, if you just measure one thing, like say, Yeah, you know what, we’re, we’re not in a position to measure engagement or conversion and retention, but I can tell you how many people I’m in front of, and you optimize the heck out of that.

    You will do well.

    There’s a lesson that my friend William Smith said, you said pick a number,

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    that it is something you have control over.

    That’s related to your your buyers journey and make it go up 8% week over week, one number that’s it, pick one number, maybe it’s new users to your website, if you can make new users to your website go up 8%, week over week, without fail.

    Everything else in the value chain will do better.

    Right? Pick one thing and figure out what levers and knobs and dials and buttons you have to manipulate to get that number to go up 8% week over week, and you will see success flow from that point.

    So that’s the, that’s the corresponding side to these data points is you’ve got to take action on them.

    And the more data points you have, and the more that you track, the more decisions you have to make.

    So if you don’t have the bandwidth, or the budget, or the people to make a bunch of decisions, then just pick one.

    And start there until your business improves enough that you have the budget to work on a second point.

    And then work on that, and so on and so forth.

    If you tried to do everything all at once, you’re going to do nothing for a very, very long time.

    It’s like having a jar of jelly with a white one spot one spoonful of jelly at the bottom and you got 100 pieces of bread? Should you try and put a tiny bit of jelly spread super thin like one atom, then across all 100 pieces of bread that can be very satisfying.

    It’s going to take a really long time.

    And by the time you’re done, it’s not going to have much of an impact.

    Or do you say you know what, we’ll put 99 pieces of bread aside and put jelly on on enough on one piece enough that I can taste it.

    Everything in content marketing is about focus, right, you can create content about everything.

    But in doing so you really create content about anything.

    On the other hand, if you create content in a focused manner, in a channel where you want to do well, like video, for example.

    And you You knock it out of the park, you will create the resources you need to do it again.

    And again.

    It’s kind of like investing, right? You could spread out 1 to 100 different banks a penny here a penny there.

    But when you think about how interest works and compounds, you’re better off putting that1 In one bank, and then figure out how do you get your next dollar.

    So that’s my caution with data around content marketing, yes, you can measure all these things and you should collect the data.

    So that’s available for you when you do want to process it later on.

    But focus on one thing and improve it, improve the daylights out of it.

    And then use the the revenue and the business impact from that to invest in the next thing one at a time.

    So that’s my answer to Brian’s question.

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