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Tod asks, “What’s the most common mistake people make when it comes to marketing personas?”

Marketing personas are aggregates, shorthand for groups or clusters of customers. The top mistake of any kind is not using any data to construct them – relying on opinion only. That’s a recipe for disaster.

Other common mistakes:
– Not having enough data to build meaningful personas
– Failing to use clusters or overriding clusters
– Not having any outcomes to calibrate personas on
– Not having granular enough personas

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In today’s episode nachi asks where it is question go here? What is the best way to estimate YouTube ads, KPIs performance for a certain budget, duration, etc? So this is a a fairly common question when it comes to YouTube advertising.

What is it going to cost the same for Google ads? What’s it going to cost? What kind of performance can you expect, and there’s a couple different answers based on what you’re currently doing with with your ads account, the easiest way to get started is if you’re already running ads, and there’s enough data inside Google ads, let’s go ahead and flip over here.

So this is a look at the campaign budget simulator, which is built into Google ads in the web interface.

I’m using a screenshot here, because there’s a whole bunch of client stuff can’t be showing off.

But this is what the campaign budget simulator looks like when you’ve got an ad campaign video ad campaign running because all Google Ads run through the same central platform, you will get a little icon next to either the budget or the cost per view column, depending on whether you’re in campaigns or ad groups.

And it’ll show you, hey, based on the last X number of days of data that your is been in place from your campaign running, here are the likely results you could get for your video campaign.

Based on different levels of budget, you can type in a different budget number there and see, you know, what kinds of performance you could reasonably expect.

This is probably the best tool to use.

But it obviously requires you to already be running some ads.

So you at least want to get some ads in flight, even if they’re not a huge budget numbers, just so that Google Ads has enough data to give you some estimates.

And if it doesn’t have enough data, it will tell you so say like don’t have enough data available from existing ad performance to give you those insights.

Now, that’s if you already got something running, what about if you don’t have something running in flight? Well, the answer to that is a lot less clear.

One of the things you’ll have to take a look at is, are there data points that you could infer some of this information from? And the answer is, yes, sort of.

But nowhere near as clearly as cleanly as Google gives you four campaigns running.

So your best bet is always to have campaigns running one option.

The very, a very simple one, obviously, is to go into tools like Google Trends, just to get a sense of your volume, is anybody at all searching for this thing? One of the things Google Trends allows you to do is do a YouTube search.

So in there, you can then get a comparison to say like, Okay, how does this look over time.

And you can choose the region you’re in, can choose the date range.

So let’s do just for fun here.

ham sandwich versus turkey sandwich on YouTube.

I mean, just get a sense of Is there any search volume at all, sometimes, depending on what you’re working on, they may not be even be volume, let’s take a look at this ham sandwich as a very specific term.

And in that case, there’s an indicator that the campaign probably is not going to do a whole lot if that’s the core term that people would be searching for on YouTube, like, yeah, it’s not really there.

They’re the other tools that you can use as many of different SEO tools.

This is one is ahrefs.

Many different SEO tools allow you to choose YouTube as one of the channels to look at at least keyword performance to see like, what kind of search volume is there? What kind of click volume is there and get a sense of what are these keywords look like on a on a click basis, volume basis, etc.

Now, there’s no costs in here, but you could at least get a sense of Okay, is there enough volume on YouTube? to at least infer, okay, if I know I’m going to pay, say, a buck a click right? What is that going to look like? 1200 clicks on a monthly basis, then it’s probably gonna be at 1200 bucks.

That’s a starting point, to at least give you a sense of Okay, what should I be investing upfront to get those ads started and then once they get started, then you go back to the Google campaign simulator, it’s okay, now they’ve got at least some money in the system.

I haven’t noticed put a credit card with no limit in there.

Then you can start doing the simulator to understand that performance.

So those would be the better ways to to estimate upfront, there really isn’t.

There aren’t any good tools that I know of.

That will give you really solid estimates because a Google keeps Pull out that data for fairly close to the vest and be.

Video performance in particular is, seems to be a little more fickle than regular regular keyword search performance.

Because the Google, the YouTube search algorithms and the YouTube video selection algorithms are, there’s a lot more ebb and flows a lot more things that swing pretty wildly a video can be put up and do astonishingly well.

And then obviously, if that video is monetized, then the ads that show and it will be will, will vary wildly as well.

So there’s more volatility in YouTube than there is typically in Google search.

So it’s one of the reasons why there aren’t easy calculators on the web that you could use to make these inferences, you’d have to just kind of do your best estimates up front, and hope that it is enough to convince somebody to invest some money and then use the appropriate tools.

So that’s the best way I’ve got right now.

I would love to hear if you are in Google Ads Pro, specifically YouTube ads, what is it that you use? Leave it in the comments if you’ve got some useful tips for doing those estimates? We can certainly ask some of our friends who also work at agencies to see what is those places do as well.

But those are my best suggestions right now.

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Natchi asks, “What is the best way to estimate YouTube Ads KPIs performance for a certain budget, duration etc?”

For campaigns that are in-flight and have enough data, use the Google Ads simulator. That will tell you what some common scenarios look like. Otherwise, cobble together your best estimate based on data from SEO tools in order to get budget, then use Google’s tool once your campaigns are running.

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In today’s episode nachi asks where it is question go here? What is the best way to estimate YouTube ads, KPIs performance for a certain budget, duration, etc? So this is a a fairly common question when it comes to YouTube advertising.

What is it going to cost the same for Google ads? What’s it going to cost? What kind of performance can you expect, and there’s a couple different answers based on what you’re currently doing with with your ads account, the easiest way to get started is if you’re already running ads, and there’s enough data inside Google ads, let’s go ahead and flip over here.

So this is a look at the campaign budget simulator, which is built into Google ads in the web interface.

I’m using a screenshot here, because there’s a whole bunch of client stuff can’t be showing off.

But this is what the campaign budget simulator looks like when you’ve got an ad campaign video ad campaign running because all Google Ads run through the same central platform, you will get a little icon next to either the budget or the cost per view column, depending on whether you’re in campaigns or ad groups.

And it’ll show you, hey, based on the last X number of days of data that your is been in place from your campaign running, here are the likely results you could get for your video campaign.

Based on different levels of budget, you can type in a different budget number there and see, you know, what kinds of performance you could reasonably expect.

This is probably the best tool to use.

But it obviously requires you to already be running some ads.

So you at least want to get some ads in flight, even if they’re not a huge budget numbers, just so that Google Ads has enough data to give you some estimates.

And if it doesn’t have enough data, it will tell you so say like don’t have enough data available from existing ad performance to give you those insights.

Now, that’s if you already got something running, what about if you don’t have something running in flight? Well, the answer to that is a lot less clear.

One of the things you’ll have to take a look at is, are there data points that you could infer some of this information from? And the answer is, yes, sort of.

But nowhere near as clearly as cleanly as Google gives you four campaigns running.

So your best bet is always to have campaigns running one option.

The very, a very simple one, obviously, is to go into tools like Google Trends, just to get a sense of your volume, is anybody at all searching for this thing? One of the things Google Trends allows you to do is do a YouTube search.

So in there, you can then get a comparison to say like, Okay, how does this look over time.

And you can choose the region you’re in, can choose the date range.

So let’s do just for fun here.

ham sandwich versus turkey sandwich on YouTube.

I mean, just get a sense of Is there any search volume at all, sometimes, depending on what you’re working on, they may not be even be volume, let’s take a look at this ham sandwich as a very specific term.

And in that case, there’s an indicator that the campaign probably is not going to do a whole lot if that’s the core term that people would be searching for on YouTube, like, yeah, it’s not really there.

They’re the other tools that you can use as many of different SEO tools.

This is one is ahrefs.

Many different SEO tools allow you to choose YouTube as one of the channels to look at at least keyword performance to see like, what kind of search volume is there? What kind of click volume is there and get a sense of what are these keywords look like on a on a click basis, volume basis, etc.

Now, there’s no costs in here, but you could at least get a sense of Okay, is there enough volume on YouTube? to at least infer, okay, if I know I’m going to pay, say, a buck a click right? What is that going to look like? 1200 clicks on a monthly basis, then it’s probably gonna be at 1200 bucks.

That’s a starting point, to at least give you a sense of Okay, what should I be investing upfront to get those ads started and then once they get started, then you go back to the Google campaign simulator, it’s okay, now they’ve got at least some money in the system.

I haven’t noticed put a credit card with no limit in there.

Then you can start doing the simulator to understand that performance.

So those would be the better ways to to estimate upfront, there really isn’t.

There aren’t any good tools that I know of.

That will give you really solid estimates because a Google keeps Pull out that data for fairly close to the vest and be.

Video performance in particular is, seems to be a little more fickle than regular regular keyword search performance.

Because the Google, the YouTube search algorithms and the YouTube video selection algorithms are, there’s a lot more ebb and flows a lot more things that swing pretty wildly a video can be put up and do astonishingly well.

And then obviously, if that video is monetized, then the ads that show and it will be will, will vary wildly as well.

So there’s more volatility in YouTube than there is typically in Google search.

So it’s one of the reasons why there aren’t easy calculators on the web that you could use to make these inferences, you’d have to just kind of do your best estimates up front, and hope that it is enough to convince somebody to invest some money and then use the appropriate tools.

So that’s the best way I’ve got right now.

I would love to hear if you are in Google Ads Pro, specifically YouTube ads, what is it that you use? Leave it in the comments if you’ve got some useful tips for doing those estimates? We can certainly ask some of our friends who also work at agencies to see what is those places do as well.

But those are my best suggestions right now.

If you got follow up questions on us, leave them in the comments box below.

Subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter.

I’ll talk to you soon take care will help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

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Anastasia asks, “Is it possible to create a trend? What does it take to make a trend stick?”

If we accept that a trend requires a sustained change in our data over time that’s statistically provable, then we need to create the underpinnings of that change.

Creating a trend that’s net new is extremely expensive and time consuming – but if you do it well, you own it.

You need a base of support and a sustained drumbeat of attention and social proof of adoption.

It took Hubspot 10 years and millions of dollars to make inbound marketing stick, but they did it.

Better to find something that’s nascent and fan the flames than to light the fire yourself. Apple does this better than anyone.

A trend is a brand, when you think about it. What goes into brand building is what goes into trend building.

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In today’s episode Anastasia asks, Is it possible to create a trend in marketing? What does it take to make a trend stick? That’s a big question.

So if we accept that a trend is fundamentally, from a statistical basis, a sustained change in our data over time that’s provable through something like a correlation, or regression, then to create a trend means that we need to create that pattern in our data we need to do stuff that creates that outcome within our data.

And creating a trend is it’s possible.

But creating a trend that’s net new is extremely expensive and time consuming.

Now, the upside is that when it comes to things like demand generation, if you create a trend, you pretty much own it.

And as long as that trend is popular, it is possible to turn that trend into a massive business.

For example, Hubspot made the trend of inbound marketing, they took an idea, which was permission marketing from Seth Godin, and sort of revamped it to be a little more technology based and built it into a huge company.

Now, how did Hubspot do that they created a trend, they created a base of support, they had a platform, and they invested 10 years and millions of dollars to make that trend stick to make inbound marketing stick.

As a result, when it took off.

And it did take off, it took a few years for it to take off.

They were able to capitalize on and build a huge business out of a software business out of it.

How did they do that? Well, with any kind of trend, you need a base of support and a sustained drumbeat of attention and particularly social proof of adoption.

You people need to see that other people tastemakers are adopting whatever the thing is, and continuing to amplify it.

So this means a lot of things that we now would call influencer marketing, where we’re trying to have influencers on a sustained basis, promoting our stuff.

And this is where big trends like macro trends are trying to create vary wildly from influencer marketing, typical influencer marketing is very campaign based.

And an influencer will do something on a campaign basis, and then move on to the next thing.

Whereas if you’re doing trend marketing, that influencer, you basically need to buy them, you need to buy their attention and their audience over a sustained period of time like yours, and have a lot of them working on your behalf to showcase this thing is the real deal.

So part of creating a trend is identifying those people who can consistently amplify your message and you will probably have to pay for it, you’ll probably have to pay a lot of money for it.

You can do that, and to some extent with your own people, depending on the size of your company, but it really, as with so many things in effectively public relations, you need to be having third parties give their credibility to the trend.

So for that trend, you need that base of support.

And you need that, that drumbeat of attention.

It’s really difficult to create a net new trend very often, you are better off finding something that is already trending in some fashion and amplify it or co OPT it or assimilate it.

If you think of an apple as a as a company does is better than any company in the world.

The touchscreen smartphone was a big deal.

Right? But it wasn’t the iPhone was not the first touchscreen smartphone.

The IBM Simon in 1992 was the very very first touchscreen smartphone.

And in the later in the mid to late 90s.

You had all these new devices that word sort of touchscreens, the Palm Pilot that were existed way before the iPhone.

Same for the iPod, the iPod was not even close to being the first mp3 player.

But it was the what was being created on the market was had a phone terrible user interface for the most part.

And so Apple’s ability to take the concept and revamp it with better design is what allowed them to essentially seize on a trend.

Rather than rather than try and and build something that new, the iTunes Music Store and and streaming audio.

They were not the first marketplace for that.

But they integrated it with the technology.

If you look at things like the iPad was the iPad, the first touchscreen tablet, nope.

The Newton was actually OSHA’s their product from 25 years prior.

So there’s so many examples, even the apple user interface, as you know, famously highlighted in the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley was not apples.

They took all the concepts like the computer mouse from Xerox, the Xerox PARC project.

So that’s a better bet, when it comes to marketing is to find some is already trending and find some way to incorporate it into your own marketing.

And do it better.

Find your angle your spin on it, do it better, because then you know, you’ve got the base of general support, right? Apple didn’t have to explain to anybody what an mp3 player was.

They just had to explain why an iPod was better.

HubSpot didn’t need to explain what permission marketing was Seth Godin had done that work.

They just needed to explain why inbound marketing was better.

Find something that’s trending, that has some support has some diehard fans, but it’s not huge yet.

And fanned the flames, right fanned the flames rather than try and build the fire yourself.

so that it becomes your company’s thing, your spin on it.

But it’s a spin on it that no one else can really replicate really well.

In the artificial intelligence field.

IBM has done an amazing job creating the concept of Watson.

Right.

There are plenty of other AI systems out there.

But none of them have been given that kind of personality that Watson has, right at least on the business side of things.

You know, there’s AWS cloud and Google Cloud and stuff.

But when you say IBM Watson people, okay, I know who that is.

You’re just saying Watson people have a general idea.

Oh, that that was a computer that won Jeopardy, right? Even though it was almost 10 years ago.

Now, there are other smarter systems, you know, Siri, for example, Alexa that are out there.

That’s a trend.

And each company has found a way to make its own smart entity.

something of a brand.

A trend when you think about it is an unnamed brand.

Right.

Inbound Marketing is is not necessarily Hubspot by name, but it really is Hubspot.

The smartphone is associated with Apple’s iPhone and Google’s Android devices as well.

But the iPhone was the definitely first to market there.

And still is sort of the the concept leader there.

So when you’re creating trends, think about all the work that goes into building a brand.

And then consider that you have to build two brands, your company, and then the trend itself, the brand of the trend.

But when you approach it like that, suddenly it becomes a lot more manageable, you are essentially just doing a lot of brand building.

So it’s a really good question.

That’s an important question.

Creating trends is difficult, just like creating a brand is difficult.

And if you can find something that you can borrow and improve on legally, you should probably do that.

Instead, get follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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Onurcan asks, “I would like to kindly ask a question about that I’m tracking that one of the mobile native app android version in Google Analytics. Why is Screen Resolution show as (not set) in my Google Analytics reports?”

This one’s straightforward, and it’s likely due to your implementation of GA for mobile apps. You’re an ideal use case for migrating to Google Analytics 4, where stuff like this is handled straight out of the box. Web analytics work poorly, if at all, with mobile apps. You should be using app analytics and the app data stream in Google Analytics 4.

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In today’s episode, owner, john, I’m guessing that’s how that’s pronounced in Turkish auto.

JOHN asks, I would like to kindly ask your question about, I’m tracking that one of the mobile native app, Android versions in Google Analytics.

Why is screen resolution shown is not set in your Google Analytics reports? Okay, this one’s pretty straightforward.

It’s because Google Analytics for the web is not suited for mobile apps.

Prior to the advent of app plus web, or Now Google Analytics for you need to use Google’s Firebase Analytics for mobile apps, which contain data like that.

Now, with the advent of Google Analytics for all that information should be centralized within ga for your an ideal use case, actually, for using Google Analytics for for collecting this kind of information, because it really is intended for people who’ve got web properties of some kind.

And also mobile apps of some kind, which increasingly, more and more companies have, and being able to cross match between devices, and see what kinds of devices people are using on your stuff.

So let’s take a quick look at this.

Let’s move over here.

So here’s Google Analytics for and where you would set this up as First you go into your admin, and you are going to go do your property settings go away, I’m sorry, you’re gonna go to your data streams.

And you’re going to set up a data stream for each of the versions of mobile app you have.

So you have an iOS data stream.

If you have an iPhone app, you have an Android data stream.

And then you’re going to deploy your Google Analytics for tracking code inside each of those apps, either using an SDK or using Tag Manager.

So just as an example, let’s do a test.

Let’s see.

Okay, let’s register the app.

That’s going to go through and create all the necessary pieces to build a Firebase database by the way, Firebase is actually what Google Analytics for is underneath the hood.

And then you will go through and implement this in side your mobile app, I’m gonna just cancel out of this because this is not something I need to have set up here.

Once you’ve got your SDK tracker implemented inside of your mobile app, then it’s time to head into Google Analytics for to see how is that data being displayed.

So in Google Analytics for your gonna go to the tech section, one of the things people having a lot of trouble with in in ga four is that things are not necessarily obvious.

at first blush where everything is this is the the technology section, you can see it defaults to things like browsers, scroll down, choose screen resolution.

And then you can start getting, obviously, once your mobile app is all set, you can start getting a sense of what size screen people are looking at your stuff on the web.

Now, you may want to add some additional clarity as to what type of device it is that somebody’s working with.

So let’s go with device category access good device.

I’ve got a bunch of not sets there.

Why? Because it is Firebase Analytics.

And this is I’m using my web stream.

So I’m gonna have a whole bunch of not sets here because it’s not available, however I can for the web, do things like operating system.

And they could not start to see windows, Macintosh, etc.

and go here, go to Device brand, Apple, Google, etc.

So now starting to get a better sense of the different types of technologies.

Remember, because this is Google Analytics, four is a blend of both web and mobile, you’re going to get some data points, some devices and other data points or not, depending on whether you’re looking at at the data from a an app data stream, or a web data stream.

It’s not as you saw, there’s gonna be some things but there’s gonna be gaps.

Things are simply not in there.

And that’s okay.

As long as you understand what you’re looking at is, is the information you need to make choices about how you’re going to track and ultimately, what kinds of technology you deploy to make the best user experience at its core, This is Firebase Analytics, which means that it is well suited for mobile apps.

So to solve that screen resolution, not being shown in ga in your ga switch to ga for and get it deployed.

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In today’s episode, we look at the new features of TechSmith’s SnagIt 2021 including templates, auto-simplify improvements, and pop-out magnification.

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In today’s episode, we’re doing a review of the Techsmith Snagit 2021.

Product full disclosure, this is a solicited review, they were kind enough to send me along a review copy to, to take a look at and see how it works.

So what’s new in 2021? Well, there’s a bunch of minor tweaks and things that improve on the application number one, thankfully, finally, we have dark mode, which to me is a big deal because pretty much everything I do is in dark mode.

on my machine, it’s nice to have it supported.

If you’re unfamiliar with snag it, snag it is originally screen capture software, but now has evolved to be more of an instructional piece of software.

And that’s where I think it’s most helpful is when you’re creating stuff for people to be able to follow along.

And it’s got all the typical features you’d expect of a tool that’s for creating instructional graphics.

So for example, let’s go ahead and take a screen grab here of my our environment.

And in the basics of the tool here, you have things like being able to highlight steps.

So when you’re trying to teach somebody how to do something, let’s change this color to something a little more obnoxious.

There we go.

So you can say like, this is the step one, this is step two, the step three, and so on and so forth.

snag its primary use my primary use for his for creating instructional graphics, as well as creating a template, a graphics, template, Id graphics, a lot of people use services, for example, things like Canva.

and such.

I’m not a huge fan of web based services, because they don’t work everywhere, particularly on planes, not that anybody should be traveling.

Right now, it’s the middle of a pandemic, but it requires internet access, and having an application locally on your machine, where you can store your templates and stuff is to me is more reliable, being able to jump in, do the the headers for each show, etc.

And, and get them out the door quickly.

New in 2021, for Snagit, we have the ability to create and edit themes.

So setting your themes, colors, your fonts, things like that, which is always helpful.

It seems like a silly thing to have as a major new feature.

But it’s a nice thing to have.

Because if you’re creating stuff that is going to be for work, and you have an official style guide, this is a better way of managing than having to reset those defaults every single time, or what I was doing, which was a whole series of saved projects that I would just pop over now just do that.

You can also create content from templates, which is actually pretty cool.

So for example, if I wanted to do a certain type of template, like a timeline, I can just fire up a template.

Here.

I start dropping in images and make a single consolidated graphic out of this.

Could you do this in other software like PowerPoint, sure.

But if you’re already doing the screen grabs in a piece of software like this, it’s nice to have it handy.

These templates again, timesavers.

What’s nice is you can also make your own.

So if I wanted to take my daily screengrab thing here and turn it into an actual template, I could do that.

And then again, instead of having to open up the previous day safe project, I could just go in, configure this for how I want it to look, one of the really nice things about this environment is it.

It’s very, very flexible.

So if you wanted to make things like YouTube graphics, social media, graphics, things, anything that you would use a piece of software, like, you know, like Canva for, you can have all that built right in and get to work and crank stuff out quickly.

Also, really nice.

You have all the typical defaults for exporting in specific formats.

The last new feature that I think is kind of fun, is offset magnify.

Offset magnify is useful for when you want to be able to highlight a particular part of the image.

So let’s go back to my environment here.

Let’s use simplify to clean up some of this clutter.

The simplify tool has gotten a bit of a revamp, and now has auto simplify.

That really does a nice job of just cleaning up your image.

And so here it’s it’s already knocked out a lot of stuff.

This, by the way, is really good if you’re sharing instructional stuff and you want people not to be distracted by the interface.

Like I do this with Google Analytics, screenshots all the time, knock out everything on this image except the things I want people to pay attention to.

It’s also really good and super important if you are sharing information of some kind that is, is partially or entirely confidential.

So in the past, I’ve done screen grabs have things like slack? Well, you know, not everybody who’s in a slack instance, wants their words to be made public.

That’s why they’re in a private social media instance.

And so having the ability to do a rapid simplify like this does knock out a lot of stuff.

And then you can go in and say, What are the things I don’t want to simplify, I can take it, delete the things around them.

And then you can, you can have just the things that are relevant, and drag them there just knock out some of these additional things here.

So let’s take a look at this magnify feature.

Because I think again, this is kind of fun.

If I wanted to specifically highlight, let’s do a rounded rectangle here.

There is my magnification, let’s take it up to 300%.

All right.

And then I can pull the magnification away.

That’s it, I have.

It’s called offset minus five, it’s kind of like picture and picture almost, which is fun.

For being able to highlight it, this is the thing to pay attention to.

In this case, I’m highlighting this particular line of code.

Again, when you’re making instructional stuff that you need people to pay attention to a very specific thing to do, you can just kind of if you want to do they’ll draw obnoxious arrows all over your diagram.

But being able to punch it out like this and say like this is the thing to look at, is really kind of nice.

So those are the major things that are new in snagged.

2021 the offset magnify, which I think is is terrific.

The ability to set your own themes, a better auto simplify, and of course, making and using templates to speed up your workload.

The templates in particular, for one person, that nice, right? For a team, they’re kind of essential because you want everybody using the same styles, you want everybody using a common look and feel for your stuff.

So that’s where this is really going to shine is when you have to have consistency across multiple people in your work group.

Again, this is a solicited review, they sent me a copy of it to take a look at I would suggest it you know if you’re interested in it, go over to Trust insights.ai slash Snagit.

Again, Trust insights.ai slash Snagit.

You can get yourself a free, free trial copy to see if it works well for you particularly for a lot of these more advanced instructional use cases.

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Josh asks, “In GA4, how do we properly understand the paradigm shift when it comes to filters? In the past, we could provide access to data across numerous groups just by setting up a filtered and customized view for users – but that looks like it has all gone away in favor of data streams.”

The short answer is that Google Analytics isn’t the tool for that any more – Google Data Studio is. Google Analytics 4 is now a BI tool. Watch the full video for an explanation of how to solve this challenge.

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In today’s episode Josh asks in Google Analytics for how do we properly understand the paradigm shift.

And when it comes to filters.

In the past, we could provide access to data sources across numerous groups just by setting up a filtered and customized view for our users.

But that looks like it has all gone away in favor of data streams.

is correct.

The way Google Analytics for functions now is, honestly, it’s a BI tool, it’s a business intelligence tool.

It is a data processor.

It is not a reporting tool.

It is not.

It’s not it isn’t an analysis tool.

But it is definitely not a reporting and visualization tool anymore.

And it is very clear from how it is designed that the intended purpose of it is for analysts to be able to look at the data, slice it dice it, come up with models and algorithms and conclusions about the data, and then be able to publish those insights.

When you look inside the interface for Google Analytics for there isn’t as much granularity when it comes to access control, because obviously, the view itself is gone.

So what do we what do we make of this? Where are we supposed to be doing this kind of work? Well, it comes out, essentially in two different places.

One, for the average use case, for the average business, the intended tool for reporting is Google Data Studio.

Right.

Even though the connector between Google Analytics and Google Data Studio isn’t, isn’t quite ready for primetime, yet, that’s a pretty apparent design decision.

When you’re handing off stuff to business lines, you’re filtering it, you’re selecting it, you’re cleaning it up.

In Data Studio, Data Studio is the visualization engine.

And in a lot of ways, this makes a lot of sense, it is more work for the marketing technology team, or the data science team up front to build all these dashboards for people in the company rather than just giving them access to Google Analytics.

But in the end, it probably serves them better.

Because a lot of users, when they’re looking at raw data, if they’re not well trained, and have a good understanding of data analysis, will poke around Google Analytics and draw the wrong conclusions.

They will draw conclusions that are incorrect.

And they will make decisions that aren’t correct.

And so by having Google Analytics for be a little less user friendly, in some ways, for the average end user, it really pushes us to think about visualization to think about reporting, and think about what people need, honestly, what are the things that people need to know, in order to be able to make great decisions.

I can’t tell you the number of dashboards and reports and things I’ve looked at, you know, over the years, which don’t really communicate anything, I mean, they they dump a bunch of data on somebody’s desk, but really communicating that and, you know, having an end user clicking around 12, or 14 different places inside of Google Analytics isn’t efficient, right? Better to assemble them a single dashboard, one page two page, however many pages it needs to be, that presents them all the information they need in order to make decisions, and then saves the analysis tool for the actual analysts.

So that when that person looks at their date and goes, Hey, this doesn’t make sense.

I have a question here.

They can go to an analyst who can log into Google Analytics for slice and dice the data within the application and then either update the dashboard in Data Studio, or provide guidance to them say like, yeah, this is the reason this is the way it is, you know, X or Y.

That is the paradigm shift that has the Google Analytics for presents.

Now.

Is that to say it’s the way it’s going to be for all time? No, we don’t know that.

Now.

We do know, many folks have commented, including on the official support forums that Google Analytics for is still in development.

It is in beta.

Even though it was announced and being ready for launch.

It is still evolving as a product as a service.

So the same for all the Google products in the Google Marketing Platform.

They’re all evolving.

And things that are not there now may show up at some point.

That said I don’t see the ease of use and the customization that’s available in Data Studio, being brought back to Google items.

For I, the design decisions that you’re looking at, to me indicate where Google wants us focusing our efforts as marketing technologists when it comes to end user reporting.

And that is providing them dashboards that are easy to use, that have been thoughtfully built.

And that helps people make decisions.

Now, here’s the challenge.

If you’re got somebody who’s not good at building dashboards, it’s not an improvement, right? Or you have an end user who doesn’t know what they want.

And you don’t have an analyst who is capable or in a position to be asking questions of a stakeholder saying, Well, no, tell me what decisions you actually make from this data.

And you know, the person’s like, No, no, I really need to see your bounce rate and time on page.

And I need to see how many people came from Pinterest.

And I need to see, you know, number of tweets on Tuesdays, right? All kinds of silly stuff that they feel like they need.

But that doesn’t actually help them make any better decisions, that it will be an organizational challenge.

That’s a people challenge, as opposed to a technology challenge.

And that will be more difficult in this new environment.

Whereas you could hand them a Google Analytics view, and say, Good luck, and then just let them stumble around blindly until they get disgusted.

And then they don’t ever look again.

Neither approach solves the problem.

But the dashboard approach with Data Studio makes it more of your problem.

So we have to be aware, as analysts, as marketing technologists, that the new paradigm in Google Analytics for places more of the analysis burden on us and the construction of the reporting burden on us.

And then once we offload that, then it’s up to our organizations and how we approach things as to whether there’s an ongoing burden on us for reporting a visualization or if we hand it off and say, yeah, here’s the dashboard you requested.

Enjoy, and the user gets what they get.

So it’s a really good question.

There are a lot of paradigm shifts in Google Analytics for there is a better analysis tool than Google Analytics three, I have found you know, in my use of it, it is more granular, you can dig deeper, you can find interesting new things, but it is not easy to use.

And for the end user who does not have comfort with deep data analysis, it is not a better tool.

But again, that’s where data studios roll is.

So really good question.

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Kait asks, “How do you suggest to go about to creating a data-driven strategy standard and breaking the “because we’ve always done it this way” mentality?”

Strategy is always a sale. Every sale has to answer the question, “What’s in it for me?” for the buyer. Not what’s best for the company, for the organization, for the big picture – what does that person get out of it? There’s a reason we call such efforts obtaining buy-in – people need to be convinced to buy.

The greatest challenge is when people don’t understand the value of data or the decisions you plan to make from it. That comes from past efforts where you collected data but didn’t do anything with it, and thus had no results to show for it. Becoming data-driven means making decisions with data, and as with everything, if you can show early, easy wins, you’ll build momentum for your strategy.

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In today’s episode, Kate asks, How do you suggest to go about creating a data driven strategy standard and breaking the, because we’ve always done it this way mentality? So the the mentality of we’ve always done it this way, is one of comfort and security of predictability.

We’ve always done it this way.

means that, yes, you’ll always get what you’ve always gotten.

But if things have been good, there, it’s difficult to sell that change.

The greatest challenge to data driven strategy is that people do not understand the data, or the value of the data, and thus, don’t see a reason to change the decision making process.

And it’s understandable why people feel that way.

But a lot of the time when you have people who are not skilled at analytics, working with data, you get a lot of what Avinash Kaushik tolle calls data puking, where you just pour a pile of data on somebody’s desk and say, here, here’s the data.

And they’re like, What am I supposed to do with this is not helpful.

Part of the reason why it takes so long to change people’s minds is they don’t see that the decisions that you make from data are any better than the decisions that you made without the data, right? If, especially in cases where the data is confirmatory, where it says, Yeah, you know what, you made the right choice all along.

And people go, why do we spend, you know, x months and X dollars? doing this exercise, you’re gonna tell me what I already knew.

That’s where you have to take a step back and say, okay, is being data driven, a good fit for the organization, and there are organizations where it is not, for good or ill, there are situations where it’s an uphill battle, and you won’t realize any benefit.

Particularly if you have people who are not just hesitant, but outright hostile, that is a boulder as a hill, you don’t want to push a boulder up.

So being data driven, means making decisions with data.

And as with everything, the easiest way to get people to change how they do things is to show some wins, show some early easy wins, that can help you build momentum for strategy, especially if it’s something that requires very little effort on your part, and can show somebody Oh, this is really cool.

Like, I didn’t know that real simple example of you fire up Google Trends, right? And you can show just some basic search volume changes in something that a person cares about, and go, Oh, ha, I didn’t know that people searched more for my product or service in June, I thought they were searching more for in in August, when we typically see them in our CRM, and you can say, No, that’s true.

People are searching for our product or service or whatever, two months before they contact us.

So we can market to them early and think, Oh, that’s a decision, I understand.

I’m going to market to them when they’re looking for it.

And they’ll be more likely to buy it.

So it’s looking for the early easy wins as best as you possibly can to build momentum for data driven strategy.

strategy in general, but data driven strategy in particular is a sale.

There’s a reason why when we talk about getting agreement on something, it’s called buy in, right, somebody is buying our strategy.

And what is being exchanged is their time, their resources, possibly the people, certainly their patients are all currencies, of buy in to a new strategy.

And yet, we do not approach strategy as a sale.

Right? We’ll talk about all this this is the the trend that the industry is going in, or this is best for the organization.

Right? How does that work? When someone’s trying to convince you to buy something? It doesn’t I there’s there’s no compelling value there to you.

So when we have to approach data driven marketing, and data driven strategy, we’ve got to approach it from the perspective of a sale, not what’s best for the company, not what’s best for the analytics department or the IT department of the marketing department.

But what is best for the person that has to buy in? What’s in it for them? Right, every sale has to answer the question, what’s in it for me for the buyer? Are we going to give the buyer of our data driven marketing strategy, better results? Are they gonna make more revenue? Are they gonna hit their numbers more easily? Are they gonna look better in front of the boss? What is for sale? What? What is it that they said, You know what? I want that? That looks good, I want that.

And a lot of the things that we put in front of somebody for a data driven strategy aren’t all that appealing.

Right? Oh, it’s, it’s the way the technology is moving.

Great.

That’s not a compelling reason to buy something.

Right? Just because a company comes out with a new smartphone.

And it’s like, minuscule differences from the model you have? Is that a reason to buy it? No.

Right? You have to have some compelling emotional reason for the person to buy in to data driven strategy.

So because we’ve always done it this way is a position of security is a position of comfort.

The buy in, therefore is discomfort that someone is buying in with their discomfort, what do you have to sell, that makes the discomfort worth it? So early wins, easy wins, look at things that don’t require their data, look at search data, look at social media data, look at media data in general, look at data from your existing systems, and what can you say like, Hey, this is a decision that we would make better if we had this information, or Hey, I looked at the data.

And have you tried doing it this way.

And instead of being a hard pressure sales person, right, which nobody loves those, be a consultative salesperson, right? Think about it as How can I counsel and advise this person to make the right choice for them, to show them that the value of what they’re buying is worth it is worth more than the investment they’re making.

And present your data driven strategy that way as a trusted advisor, rather than using role power in an organization use relationship power.

That’s how you get buy in, that’s how you get someone to adopt a data driven strategy is to say that I clearly see what’s in it for me, I want to buy that I’m comfortable enough to being uncomfortable, because I see the benefits of what’s in it for me.

And that requires a lot of hand holding, right? Because anytime we’re going to make a major system change, for example, switching from Google Analytics, three to Google Analytics for because it, it offers you more flexibility.

flexibility in this case is kind of intangible.

And there’s a lot of pain associated with that change.

So what is the thing that you can show that says, oh, wow, that’s really valuable.

We got to make that change, because I want more of that.

Right? So that’s the way that I would approach getting someone to make a change, for adopting a data driven strategy.

Standard is to say, when you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always gotten, and if you’re happy with what you’ve gotten, okay, but what if you could get this instead? What if you could get, you know, 20% better results? Would you want to be able to show your boss 20% growth or whatever the number is will based on your own research that you’ve done? That’s how you get by it.

Then we go.

Yeah, I kind of want that.

So, if you got follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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Masha asks, “What does it really mean to be an SEO expert? Considering the depth and breadth of SEO, is it even possible to be an expert on all aspects of SEO?”

It depends on how we define SEO itself. SEO, or search engine optimization, is all about optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic, unpaid search. (the companion is SEM, or search engine marketing, for paid search) There are four branches of SEO – technical, onsite, offsite, and content, and each is a profession unto itself.

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In today’s episode, Masha asks, what does it really mean to be an SEO expert considering the depth and breadth of SEO? Is it even possible to be an expert in all aspects of SEO? That’s a good question.

But it depends how we define SEO because as Marsha points out, it is a very broad discipline, there’s a lot to it.

Fundamentally, SEO is the process of optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic unpaid search, hence the name SEO or search engine optimization.

The companion piece to this is SEM, which is the ability to to have your paid stuff, rank well.

Now, to be an SEO expert, you’ve got to be able to essentially generate good results in search, right at the end of the day.

If you’re not driving traffic, and leads and conversions and ultimately revenue through organic search, you’re not an expert.

It doesn’t matter how many tricks or how arcane your knowledge is, if you can’t generate results, you’re not an expert.

Now, the question is, which aspects of SEO Do you have specialization in and there’s four major branches of SEO, there’s technical SEO, which is where you’re looking at the server’s themselves, right, the technical infrastructure.

And this, this is almost borders on it.

So caching HTTPS, server side certificates, HTTP two minifying your content using a CDN, all the technical things that go into a website, and how well it runs, how smooth of an experience is the back end architecture.

And there is a tremendous amount that you can do with services, for example, like CloudFlare, that can help improve your server’s performance.

Because one of the things that that is taken to account in SEO is, how quickly does your page load? Google does this for its mobile, first indexing, how fast is a page on a mobile device.

And as of May of 2021, the core web vitals will be a part and parcel of search rankings, how quickly how a web page paints, how long it takes to load stuff, those will function as part of the rankings.

Google made this announcement not too long ago.

So that’s one aspect of SEO.

The second is on site, SEO, and this, we talked about structure of stuff on site.

So proper schema, proper markup, JSON LD, all the technical stuff that you can do on a webpage itself, to make it function correctly understanding how for example, how Google renders a page, and how Google indexes pages and structuring your content to function while making a page is mobile responsive, making them free of errors, you know, no, for forced making sure your internal linking structure is good.

There’s a tremendous amount of stuff that again, goes into on site, technical SEO, using the right plugins and making sure the plugins are configured correctly.

is all part of on site SEO.

The third part is content.

Content is not necessarily the we differentiate it from onsight.

In that onsight is technical stuff content is the content itself.

The topics you’re writing about the words, the phrases, the semantic associations, the the interactivity of content, the media types, the making the stuff, right, How valuable is the stuff, you know, for example, on on, on this show, we’ve got a YouTube video got an audio podcast, we’ve got the blog post that goes with this, got the imagery, all that is the content.

And there are things you can do to optimize your content.

simple stuff, for example, like with YouTube videos, if you’re not uploading a closed captions file, you’re kind of doing it wrong.

If you want your videos to be found on on YouTube itself on your own site, making sure you’ve got transcripts for any kind of rich media to make sure that there’s enough text for Google to crawl, making sure that you’re using words and phrases and topics that are relevant to what people are searching for in the language, they search for it.

So doing a tremendous amount of research into your audience to figure out okay, this is how my audience asks this question.

So I should answer this question in that same language.

And then the fourth branch of SEO is off site SEO.

And this looks a lot like public relations.

This is doing outreach.

Making sure that you’re getting links to your articles, you’re getting links to your website, you’re getting links to all the relevant content.

You spend all that time creating, building relationships with media outlets, influencers, other bloggers, other websites, appearing on podcasts, appearing on people’s YouTube shows and live streams and essentially building a brand around the content that you’ve built.

So that when Google and other search engines index, all the links that are out there, you have a fair number of inbound links headed your way.

Each of these branches of SEO is a profession unto itself, right technical SEO, like set is like it off site.

SEO is like PR, content marketing its own thing.

On site SEO is, you know that a lot of ways the job that we used to call back in the early 2000s, a webmaster right, all four professions? And can you be expert on all four of them? Yes, you can.

You will, you can be proficient at all four are you do have enough time in the day to do all four on a frequent basis, probably not.

Particularly offside, offside is one of the most time consuming parts of SEO, if you do it well.

If you do it poorly, it’s, it’s not so time consuming, but you don’t get good results that way.

And so you will probably have a specialization in one or two of these areas, but not necessarily all for you, you won’t do all four all the time.

Most of the time, though, if you have enough knowledge to be competent, each of the four areas, you can then contract out with agencies, or contractors or partners or whoever to handle aspects that you’re not as proficient at, or you just don’t have time to do.

So for example, with technical I mentioned a service like CloudFlare.

That’s is a great supplement to your technical SEO capability.

So it’s not a replacement for knowing what you’re doing.

But it is something that you can offload some of those tasks.

With off site, if you have a really good public relations team, they can handle an awful lot of that workload, getting you links to your stuff as they pitch the just giving them the guidance.

Hey, as you pitch the story, make sure that you get us a link to back to our website.

When it comes to content marketing, if you know that you need to work on video and video is not your strength, and you work with contractors to help produce videos and stuff.

And then you use transcription software or transcription contractors to build the content for Trent to be transcribed.

But you want that experience, you want that knowledge in each of the four areas so that you can act as a manager act as a project manager or coordinator to help keep your SEO efforts on tracks.

And there’s a fifth area that is not SEO tactics, that is important.

That is Seo management, being able to coordinate to build project plans to keep a team moving in the right direction to broker arrangements with other contractors and agencies, particularly when you have inter agency conflicts.

Those are all skills that are sort of at that fifth, a morphus all encompassing area of SEO and again, like project management a profession of its own.

So an SEO expert has proficiency in at least one of these areas.

They have knowledge of all four, and they have a specialization in at least one.

And can you be expert on all of them? Yes.

If it’s all you ever do day in and day out and you fulfill those different roles for different clients or within a company? Yes, you can be expert in all of it.

But you will still have a strength probably in one area in particular.

That’s a good question.

It’s an important question because a lot of people still 20 years later, are a little fuzzy on SEO.

So important, important stuff to know.

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Sandeep asks, “How do you stay aware of new marketing trends?”

The answer here is straightforward: your communities. The communities you belong to will lead you to what’s new, especially in private communities where members aren’t being blitzed by spam and ads all the time, like Discord and Slack. Join a handful, show up, and listen.

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In today’s episode, Sandeep asks, How do you stay aware of new marketing trends? Okay, well, the answer here is relatively straightforward.

Your communities, your communities that you belong to, are the ones that will be providing you intelligence on what’s new on, on what’s happening.

And based on the questions that people ask if you belong to Facebook groups would not be my first choice.

But LinkedIn groups, a slack servers, discord servers, wherever it is that you spend time online with your peers.

Those are the communities where you’ll see people asking questions.

Hey, has anyone heard of this Tiktok thing? Hey, has anyone joined parlour? Has anyone done this? Has anyone done that? And after you see it a couple times in the feed, you go, Okay, this is a thing that we need to pay attention to? That would be the very straightforward answer.

Now, here’s the catch.

It requires time, it requires you to invest the time in joining those communities, and stopping by and listening, doing your own assessments of them.

And then ultimately, making decisions and doing some research based on what you find.

If you’re not a member, of any communities, or significant ones, where you’re getting enough intelligence, that’s probably the first place to start.

So go to, you know, go to Facebook, go to LinkedIn, hunt around in the bigger public groups that you’re a member of, you know, social media marketing, world group, secret team, any of these the larger communities.

Those would be the first places to start and ask people, hey, what slack servers or discord servers do you belong to.

And again, you can join, if people are willing to let you know that they exist, they probably want you to join them.

For example, the analytics for marketers community on Slack, it’s the one that my company runs Trust Insights, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers.

There’s about 1400 people in there.

And the most recent questions have been very heavily about things like Google Analytics for so after enough of those you go, okay, there’s clearly I think here, if you’re unfamiliar, this is what a slack group looks like, this is the spin sucks community from Spin sucks.com.

And this is about 1000.

I think maybe more than that, people who are talking about media relations, public relations, community management, influencers, etc.

The most recent question on, you know, ebooks, ebook formats.

So what you will find is, these communities are great sources of intelligence.

The more that you participate in them, the more that you become a, a full fledged member in the sense of being active in the community, the more people will ask you specific things that you might have answers to as well.

And that is of great benefit, because then you’re going to get the tough questions about things that you have expertise about.

And that may indicate new use cases, new challenges, etc.

For example, I’m this morning and one of my community, someone was asking where the referral exclusions are in Google Analytics for they’re missing, they’re not there.

You have to have a packet yourself.

But that’s not something that I would have thought to talk about.

Unless someone from one of my communities asked the question.

With a lot of these online communities, too, you can ask people like, hey, what things are you working on? What things are you trying out what’s crossed your desk recently? That’s new.

And again, get some useful information, folks, as long as you have a reputation in that community for being a a upstanding member, if you will.

Just lurking I’ve been asking a question out of the blue every now and again, it’s probably not as effective as you contributing answers and help to the communities feeding the communities with your insights.

Now, you can do this with more public sources, like Twitter, for example.

But you tend to get a lot more junk that way.

You tend to get a lot more junk and a lot more self promotional stuff.

A lot of these communities, particularly on slack and discord are strictly non promotional.

To the point where members will be expelled, if they’re, you know, out there Hawking their stuff.

And that’s what you want.

You want places where the actual discussion has happens.

The really critical thing though, is that you need a community for your customers.

Where do your customers spend time online? You know, depending on who your customers are, it could be an old fashioned, you know, bulletin board system.

It could be a web forum, it could be an email list.

It could be a slack group, it could be a Discord server, it could be any of any of these places where people hang out.

But you need to figure out where your customers are hanging out.

And then spending time in those places to stay in tune with your customers, not just marketing trends, but what are your customers up to? What questions do they have? And this, you can only get that through asking them.

So if you’ve got an email list, send out an email saying, hey, what online communities are you members of? And where do we find them? We want to show up and listen.

Is there a Discord server so if you are a gaming company, you better have not only your own Discord server, but you better know, you know, the top five or six in your industry and be listening constantly to see what people are talking about there.

If you’re in b2b, yeah, you better have your own slack group.

But then you better be joining you know, other networking, slack groups that can provide you useful intelligence about what your customers care about.

Because with a lot of these communities, especially ones that are private, that are not in the Facebook ecosystem, you get more honest conversation.

So you can ask people, hey, what do you think of TrustInsights.ai Oh, god, these people is so difficult to work with.

And that can give you some really good unfiltered feedback about your company and help you understand where you stand in your ecosystem, where you stand, stand in the world of trends around your company’s products and services.

So that’s how you stay aware of marketing trends, you spend time with people who you care about, and you listen to them.

And then, as appropriate, you adjust your marketing strategy based on the things that they’re talking about.

And if you’re not doing that, you’re kind of flying blind.

You’re kind of not tuned in to the pulse of your customers, and the things they care about.

One of the things you’ve got to find out, by the way, no, particularly with marketing technology, is that your customers lag behind you a fair amount of time unless you yourself are lagging pretty far fine.

But things like good old fashioned email newsletter may still be the best way to reach your customers.

Despite all these new technologies and platforms, your customers might be there, but you may not be engaged there.

Whereas a simple email newsletter may generate more business for your company than all these social networks put together.

So keep that in mind that and that’s why having that community of your customers is so important so that you can listen to them and go, Oh, we’re gonna launch this whole new thing, but turns out nobody cares about that thing.

Right? That’s, that’s the value of these communities.

Good question.

You have follow up questions about communities? Leave in the comments below.

Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and join the slack group.

Go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers join the slack group you can ask questions.

In fact, somebody just asked question seconds ago and saw my notification pop up about Google Analytics for so join the slack group join the communities that can benefit you the most to keep an eye on those marketing trends.

Thanks for watching.

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