Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Author: Christopher S Penn

  • You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adapting Presentations for Virtual?

    Cathy asks, Can an in-person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations?

    In a room, you are addressing one to many. In a digital/virtual environment, you are addressing one to one. For the most part, on the other end of a connection there won’t be a dozen people.

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    In today’s episode Kathy asks, can have in person talk be adapted for a digital experience? What skills are different for virtual presentations? A lot of different, a lot is different.

    And the most important thing I think to keep in mind, is that a virtual presentation when you are as we are right now, talking to each other while I’m talking to you, I guess is that it’s not a stage.

    Right? Look around you right now there.

    How many other people are watching this with you? Not many, right? When you’re onstage in a big room, it’s 100,000 10,000 people all there and there’s a definite different energy and the language that you use will reflect that.

    Walk on stage.

    Hey, folks, Great to see ya.

    Right? When we’re on a channel like this, I go Hey, folks, and you’re like, what? what folks? It’s me and my office, right? It’s me on my phone.

    It’s only me.

    So, from a communications perspective, one of the biggest change is that public speakers have had to make and should make and if you’re doing a talk, you should make sure you’re not talking to a roomful of people.

    Even if you see 25 heads on the bowl, zoom interface, whatever.

    From the customer’s perspective, you are talking just to them is a one to one conversation to them, especially on a webinar, like zoom calls, you can at least see, you know, the floating heads on a webinar where this you know, yeah, you take this to the list of attendees, 125 people or whatever listening, but it really is only you, and both and the speaker.

    So as a speaker, you have to change your language.

    You have to change your mannerisms.

    You change the way you speak.

    Speak when you’re talking to an audience one to one.

    I changed a lot of what I do my videos when I realized that it’s just you and me.

    Right? Even language like that.

    It’s like it’s not it’s not just me and my audience, right, that’s me and assuming that’s a one to many relationship, but when we’re talking like this, it’s one one’s just you and me.

    having a conversation.

    One of the challenges that people are going to face that speakers have a really hard time with in virtual environments is lack of feedback.

    In a roomful of people, you can see guys, everyone on their phones, right? People holding their phones, taking pictures, or they, you know, taking photos, your slides, you can tell when people are engaged in virtual environments, very difficult to do.

    So, as a speaker, one of the things you’ve got to get real comfortable with is talking to nobody.

    Right? talking to an audience that isn’t there.

    A silly trick that some people do enjoy doing is they’ll take a look at an actual photo of somebody they respected, they’ll put it right next to their camera, and they’ll talk to that photo.

    And, and and it helps make them make the mental connection that there is somebody on the other end of this piece of plastic and glass and metal.

    And it helps direct the conversation and the feeling.

    Because your brain is thinking I do see a person there.

    That helps.

    Just like with a zoom call, one of the things I recommend you do is like these little boom arms here, can you can put a camera on them and then you can move that around.

    I like to put the camera in the middle of the zoom window.

    So I’m looking at the zoom window.

    I’m seeing the people as as I’m talking to them when I do like classes and things.

    Other things that change, there is a a strong prohibition against having more than like 10 words on the slide for onstage talks.

    The reason In a simple, our brains are language based brains and image based brains left, right, whatever you want to call it.

    The language processor is a serial processor and ahead.

    So we can only interpret one language stream at a time.

    That’s why I have two people talking at the same time, it’s very hard to make out what they’re saying.

    But you can look at two different images at the same time, right, you can go to art gallery and see like a wall full of images.

    You can hear a bunch of different sounds and a piece of music because that part of the brain works differently.

    When we’re on stage.

    I want people listening to the words I’m saying and not reading off of the slide.

    In a virtual environment that’s different.

    There is no person to pay attention to.

    And so you can have a few more words on a slide.

    And that actually directs the audience gives them something to do if it’s just a slide of like a picture of your dog, which I have a fair number of, that’s fine, but then I had better be an even better speaker.

    Even more entertaining a different tone so that people are engaged with that because at that point, if it’s just a slide and a voice, you’re basically a radio show.

    Right? At that point you are a radio show with a billboard as if you are not a speaking human being that can be helped by having like little picture and picture.

    persons, you know, the the the webcam running, that shows that there’s actually a person there.

    When possible, do stuff live.

    A lot of shows a lot of conferences gone to, you know, canned talks, and that’s okay.

    Because it certainly is a very uneven experience based on technology.

    People have their houses about what kind of content you can deliver.

    But if you can do stuff live, if you can do stuff with tons of QA, virtual environments are great for that.

    There’s a chat room.

    You know, one of the challenges we have with on stage talks is you don’t want people to You’re raising hand the mill, you’re talking, hey, yeah, this is work, right.

    But you can absolutely have that happen in in the chat for a virtual experience and have people ask questions as they have money.

    Oh, yeah, that that’s a question I want to ask them.

    They, if you create that experience, and you’re amenable to that experience, when you’re talking, you can either weave it into the talk itself or have a longer q&a, like if you are talking, you’re 16 minutes in and the chat is filled with questions, you can say, Okay, you know what, I’m going to change my talk a little bit shorten up as we can tackle all these great questions that came in.

    So you have to be very flexible, to be able to deliver a lot of value like that.

    If you see there’s a ton of QA engagement already happening during the talk.

    The same is true for you.

    You can use interaction features.

    So there’s a lot of features in virtual environments, you know, people can raise their hands, they can, you know, put a little emojis in the chat and stuff like that you can stimulate some of that engagement to ask people to pay attention, essentially.

    But at the end of the day, it’s still conference call, it’s still radio a lot of the time.

    At best, it’s a YouTube video, it is not the same as being in a conference room.

    And the reason the big thing behind that is that you’ve not taking that audience member out of their comfortable environment that they used to with all the distractions of an office or a home office or, or, or whatever.

    And their mindset is different.

    They are not in the mindset of I’m here for two days to learn this thing there.

    their mindset is, I’m popping in for 45 minutes between meetings to learn this thing.

    And so you have to remember that and engage them where they are in that context.

    Okay, folks, if you’re here, you know, the dog is barking or the kids are crying, cool.

    Step out as you need to, this is being recorded.

    Copy will be provided to you.

    And one tip that I find super helpful is to make sure that you provide you with cereals in multiple formats when you’re done.

    So provide the slides, yes, provide the audio.

    So if somebody wants to read, listen, they can, which means you have to think about how heavily does your presentation or live visuals, provide the video, the recording, and provide an AI based transcript or real human transcript if you want to pay for it, but an AI based transcript so if someone just wants to read through the talk, people read way faster than we talk, people can read up to 400 words a minute, we kept pretty much to be intelligible at about 150 words a minute.

    So providing that that transcript can help someone find just the part of the presentation they want.

    You can take a digital presentation and slice it up in a whole bunch of different ways and provide a lot of post event value.

    So that’s how to adapt presentations for the virtual world.

    There’s a lot you can do.

    There’s a lot you should do.

    But it starts with recognizing that you’re not talking to a roomful of people anymore.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Customizing Speaking Presentations?

    You Ask, I Answer: Customizing Speaking Presentations?

    Cathy asks, So you’re a subject matter expert, but your audiences (i.e. seniority, industries, geography) from gig to gig differ. How do you go about customizing presentations while maintaining your core message?

    This one is straightforward: the more Q&A you include, the more every presentation is customized to what that audience wants to hear. If you leave no time or five minutes for Q&A, then anyone sitting in that audience who has heard your canned talk before will know it’s canned.

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    In today’s episode Kathy asks, so your subject matter expert by your audience’s seniority and industry, geography from gig different from gig to gig differ, how do you go about customizing presentations will maintain your core message.

    So this one’s pretty straightforward.

    customizing a presentation is something that you do to provide value to the audience, right? number one rule of presentations, is an old sales guy told me this back in the early part of the last decade, now the radio in their customers head is permanently tuned to one station wi I FM, what’s in it for me? So depending on the audience, what’s in it for them, if you’re doing a talk on, say, digital photography, what’s in it for an audience of artists who What’s in it for an audience of plumbers? What’s in it for an audience of industrial concrete specialists? If you don’t know the answer, you probably shouldn’t be on stage.

    Right? Because the audience cares very much about what’s in it for them.

    So a big part of customizing presentation is understanding what the audience is therefore, what do they want? And that may mean you have to do a hefty amount of research on their industry to ask, what are the problems they face and how does what I’m about to talk about apply to them.

    I did a talk on truck driving, recruiting a little while back and I had to do an actual research project to understand the needs of what it is that recruiters are trying to do.

    When I did a healthcare talk.

    Okay, what are the data challenges that AI is helping address in healthcare? So you’re going to spend a lot of time you should be spending a lot of time researching the audience, the industry, the challenges that they have understand some of the language, understanding some of the culture, all these things go into speaking, it’s one of the reasons why public speakers good ones cost so much, because it’s not the hour that you spend on stage.

    It’s the 40 6080 hours you spend up front and doing the research when I was talking, I did a keynote in Poland.

    I spent three weeks spending a whole lot of time with Duolingo and other things just to get basic ability to you know, basic customer mannerisms and, and phrases in Polish so that again, I could I speak Polish fluently? Absolutely not.

    Could I at least do basic hellos, goodbyes and show that I had some level of awareness of the culture? Yes.

    I absolutely spent time it was presentation on AI.

    Now what are the major challenges that that particular part of Poland was facing? It wasn’t even all of Poland It was a particular section called Pomerania? What were the challenges that They were having their big challenges was business development trying to attract more businesses to the region.

    So we talked about ways to do that.

    Looking at influencers, looking how to do network graphing and natural language processing in Polish, because polish is a Slavic language with a Western language character set.

    So that presents some real interesting challenges for people who are building natural language models.

    So you spend a lot of time doing research upfront to figure out what is it that this audience desperately needs to hear? And how did the core techniques or the ideas apply to them? You got to put yourself in the audience’s seat.

    What’s in it for me when they’re on stage, when they’re in the audience listening to you whether it’s in a room or on a virtual connection? That person is going what’s in this for me, what am I going to get out of this? Another thing that is I think, so powerful and so underrated is q&a.

    The more q&a you will Include, the more every presentation is customized to exactly that specific audience because you can give some ideas and people will say, Well, I don’t understand how this idea applies to me.

    And that’s when, as my friend, Gary Vaynerchuk says, that’s when you separate the adults from the children.

    Because if you are up there giving a canned talk, you know, you’re on the 15 Minute Webinar, it’s pre recorded, just go you push the play button, and then you’re done.

    You’ve given no time to the audience for q&a, and they don’t necessarily have to know how to apply your message, especially if your message is in any way shape, or form.

    even slightly technical, or even slightly detailed in terms of techniques.

    Now, if it’s just your motivational stories, like hey, I bicycle to the North Pole and what a great challenge it was though, there’s fewer questions the audience is going to have about that type of talk but if you are doing any kind of Typical marketing or business talk, there should be q&a if there isn’t.

    You might not have done such a good job because people don’t know how to ask more questions to apply what you said to them.

    I personally see it as a failure of mine If I give a talk and there isn’t q&a if there aren’t a whole bunch of hands up, or a little hand blinking things in zoom when I’ve talked, because it means that I probably went way over people’s heads, and they’re like, I don’t get it.

    So q&a.

    What’s the right balance? I would say up anywhere from a third to a half of the time has been allotted for q&a.

    So deliver the the big idea in 20 minutes, right, if you can deliver the big idea in 20 minutes.

    This, by the way, actually really helps with what my friend Tamsin Webster calls fire hosing, we just pour a whole bunch of data on someone’s head.

    Because in 20 minutes, you really only have time for one big idea or one big concept.

    And then the remaining 2025 3540 minutes left for QA.

    People can ask how do I do this? How do I apply this? What’s in this for me? Where do I find this? Do you know people who can help me with this all the questions that are valued race based questions, that’s when the audience is going to come out and say, I need to know how to do this.

    I need to know how to implement this.

    And when you do q&a, that presentation is as a whole, completely unique, because yes, you’ll always get the few of the same questions.

    And maybe if you keep getting those questions, it’s a sign that your talk needs to be adapted to answer those questions implicitly.

    After that, every talk is custom to the people who are in that room.

    It’s not even what industry you’re in.

    It’s just the people who are in that room that day that had those questions that you were able to answered, leave a ton of time for q&a.

    Leave a ton of time for it.

    Let people ask their questions, and you will never have trouble customizing.

    If anything, you’ll have the opposite problem, you will you the audience may go down some rabbit holes that you may or may not want to go down because it just is not relevant.

    I remember giving a talk on applications of AI for marketing.

    And there were a few questions on, you know, the the implications of, you know, political and legal and societal context.

    And I answered them at a surface level, but like, Look, that’s not necessarily the focus of this presentation.

    The focus was on the applications for marketing.

    Yes, absolutely.

    There are legal and moral implications.

    But that’s a separate talk.

    That’s a separate talk entirely.

    Sometimes.

    That’s okay.

    If the audience’s like, it’s one Ask the question, everybody leans forward like, oh, okay, you know, if you’re on zoom and suddenly, like every head comes up and everyone’s watching all sudden, like, okay, we’re gonna spend some time on this.

    But again, that’s a sign of a really engaged, customized talk that everyone is paying attention rapidly to figure out what it is you’re about to say.

    So customization of the talk adapter ideas, by spending a crap ton of time upfront doing the research that you need to do to make a really good custom talk for that audience.

    And then let the q&a run as long as you have the ability to do so leave a ton of time for it, so that you can demonstrate your actual subject matter expertise by answering quiz specific questions people have.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Ego-Less Personal Brand?

    You Ask, I Answer: Growing an Ego-Less Personal Brand?

    Cathy asks, “How do you grow a personal brand without talking too much about yourself?”

    Absolutely. One of my martial arts teachers, Stephen K. Hayes, says very succinctly to focus on the work. You are the conduit for the work; make that your focus.

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    In today’s episode, Kathy asks, How do you grow a personal brand without talking too much about yourself? Ah, yes, we’ve all had that experience being at a conference or a webinar or virtual event or something where it’s a 45 or 60 minute help God help you to our commercial for the person who’s speaking.

    And every, you know, 20 seconds out of the person’s mouth, like, Hey, you should buy my book, right? That’s no fun.

    Nobody enjoys that except the person speaking on stage.

    And more importantly, as audience members, we don’t get any value out of that whatsoever.

    So how do we, when the tables are turned when we are the ones on the stage or behind the camera or in front of the camera or behind the microphone? How do we do presentations in a way that is not self serving and this applies, by the way to both individuals and companies and companies, corporations, if you’re speaking on behalf of a brand, you have to be aware that you can’t just get up there and make it a 45 minute commercial for your company.

    Nobody wants to hear that.

    So how do you do this? There’s a very succinct way.

    But my one of my martial arts teachers, Stephen Hayes says, and that is you focus on the work, you, as the speaker, are a conduit for the work and so that should be your focus.

    What does that mean? When you’re talking on stage onstage in a video series like this on YouTube, the audience is there for the value you provide for the work that you do not for you.

    Unless you are perfect, like professional entertainer, and even then it’s not you.

    It’s the entertainment value you provide, right? It’s not how awesome you are.

    It’s how awesome the music is.

    Or the poetry or the art that you create is a provides.

    I used to work with a sales guy way back in the beginning of the last decade, who had this great expression.

    The radio in your audience’s head is permanently tuned to one station wi I FM.

    And he would make the joke, say it’s what’s in it for me.

    That’s what your audience is thinking the entire time.

    What’s in this for me? What am I going to get out of this? What value can I take from this? And if they’re there for entertainment, you better be entertaining.

    If they’re there to be educated, you better educate them.

    And you have to know what it is that they are there for.

    So when you show up, and you’re talking all about yourself, you are getting value, but the audience is not.

    Right.

    And I realize it runs contrary to a lot of the sort of the celebrity driven culture that we have.

    But for the most part, most people don’t appreciate that.

    So that means instead of talking about you talk about the work that you’ve done and how that work applies to the audience.

    So when I get up on stage and talk about analytics, I don’t talk about me.

    I talked about how do you separate out branded organic search from unbranded organic search in Google Analytics, right? That applies to you, you care about that, right? That’s going to help you do better reporting.

    I will talk about Markov chain models.

    And how Markov chain models are used to develop better attribution because it helps you understand the role each channel plays, as if they were basketball players on a court.

    Some players assist some players score but all are important.

    That helps you you when you hear these terms, you have more things to research or maybe there’s a technique that you can borrow or maybe There is something that you can, you can learn more about or partner with somebody to implement.

    But that helps you solve a problem.

    I am not the focus, the work that I do is the focus.

    And the same was true for you when you’re speaking on stage when you’re speaking in front of the camera.

    What value? Is it? What is in it for the audience? And if you don’t have a clear idea, that’s a really good time to stop and ask yourself, okay, well out of this thing, what value would somebody else get out of this? If I was sitting in the audience and this talk I’m about to give was the one that’s on screen, would I get any value out of it? We all want I know, specially as on the company said we all want one of the values to be Hey, come hire my company.

    We I get it right and that’s, that’s natural, and there’s usually a place where you can put in a gentle call to action.

    But it should be more than like a few seconds out of the entire talk.

    So how do you do that? You You show examples, you walk through case studies and again, the case studies are not, look how awesome we are.

    No, we did this thing.

    No, this is the problem the person focused.

    My friend Tamsin Webster says that nothing demonstrates expertise quickly.

    So well as stating the problem eloquently and thoroughly so that people in the audience who are hearing this going, that’s my problem, too.

    I have that problem, too.

    How do I tell me how to fix it? Because that’s exactly what I’m facing.

    So in your talks, you talk about that you say, here’s the challenge.

    And here’s the implications of the challenge.

    There’s a framework that marketer Dan Kennedy created years ago that I renamed because it makes more sense to have it be a word called pigs.

    You state the problem, you state the impact of the problem.

    What happens if you don’t solve it, you stick the general solution and then you stay specific solution.

    And when you’re adapting that framework for speaking, the problem is what you state the impact.

    What happens if you don’t solve this? The general solution is the solution.

    Hey, Mark off chain modeling to solve your attribution.

    Hey, customization of channels in Google Analytics to solve some of the reporting challenges people have.

    And then the specific solutions we can get into the case study.

    You can get into, you know, here’s how we solve this for a client.

    But here’s what the client did.

    And here’s the impact the client had and the results the client got, right.

    And that, again, if you’re in the audience, and you said, that’s my problem, and then you watch it and go, ha, that’s how they solved it.

    I could solve that.

    Or maybe that doesn’t apply to me, and then they raise the hand in QA.

    And then they go, Okay, I get that.

    But how does this apply to me? That’s, again, where you’re, you’re focusing on what’s in it for them, what’s in it for the people who are sitting in the audience.

    That’s being a conduit for the work that’s being encountered? Do it a channel where the knowledge that you want to share is flowing through you, without you being the focus to help the audience.

    And the good news is this, it feels counterintuitive.

    It feels counterintuitive.

    You, especially if again, if you’re speaking on behalf of company, your bosses by saying you got to get up there and make sure you mentioned the company 15 times a minute.

    No, that’s not how that works.

    But if you do a great job providing as much value as you can on stage, then when it comes time to wrap up, you can absolutely say hey, if you’ve got questions about this, ask them the q&a.

    And if we don’t have time with the QA asked me afterwards, give me a business cards.

    Let’s stay in touch.

    And yes, my company handles this.

    If you just don’t want to do it yourself.

    We’ll do it for you.

    At that point, you’ve proven your expertise.

    You’ve proven your knowledge you’ve proven you’ve built your brand by by building the value and giving the value You that you have.

    My friend Mitch Joel calls his givers gain from BSI, business, networking international and givers gain the person who gives the most wins.

    Because you’re giving away your knowledge.

    Again, just because you’ve given the knowledge doesn’t mean the person is going to run off and do it.

    Yes, like 1% of the crowd will actually go in and try and do it the other 99% of the crowd be like, you know what, I don’t want to do this, you do it for me, I will pay for it.

    So that’s how to grow that personal brand without talking too much about yourself focus on the work focus on the knowledge, focus on the value, what is the value of be crystal clear.

    If the person had no intention of ever buying from you would they still walk away happy.

    Your goal is to make sure that they would be happy.

    At the same time, recognizing that if you give away the knowledge and the perspective and the experience, there’s a very good chance that the vast majority of people in the We’ll say, I don’t want to do that you as the expert you come do that for me.

    Here’s a big pile of money.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Branded Search for Niche Industries?

    You Ask, I Answer: Branded Search for Niche Industries?

    Nancy asks, “If you’re selling something highly technical e.g., carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, would branded search be helpful e.g., assuming there are brand name aluminum makers who target the aerospace?”

    It depends on the behavior of your buyers. One of the most important, easiest things to do is configure Google Analytics to separate out branded and unbranded search as separate channels so you can better see how different types of search perform. Once you have that set up, you should be able to determine the importance of branded search to your business.

    You Ask, I Answer: Branded Search for Niche Industries?
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    In today’s episode, Nancy asks if you’re selling something highly technical eg carbon fiber to replace traditional aluminum for fabricating airplane seats, that’s very specific.

    Would branded search be helpful assuming there are brand name alumina makers who target the aerospace? So it depends on the industry.

    And it depends on the behavior of your buyers.

    There are some industries where there’s very little digital interactivity at all, right? Where everything is done based on a few suppliers.

    Everybody knows who the suppliers are.

    And there’s a system like arriva for example, where all the RFPs are managed and search may not be a part of that at all.

    In other industries, absolutely.

    If there’s no more than a handful of vendors and people are looking for the company, buy in I mean, but number one, the number one terms people Google for is Google.

    Don’t know why.

    So the answer to this question is that you have to set up your analytics to understand the behavior of your existing buyers first.

    And then once you have that information, you can make a judgement about how important branded organic searches here’s the cash out of the box.

    Google Analytics, in no way supports branded search unintelligible fashion to do analysis on it.

    There is a built in feature where you can define branded terms in Google Analytics, but the channel groupings and stuff are not configured for that.

    So that’s step one is you have to reconfigure Google Analytics to support that.

    Without it, you’re kind of flying blind.

    Once you have that set up, then you can start looking at the importance of branded organic search and branded paid search on your business because what you can do is Once you have that defined as a channel grouping, you can then start to do things like customer journey mapping or page level conversion analysis with that as a defined channel in Google Analytics and say, I want to see just how brand organic search drives conversions for this goal or this goal or this goal.

    And then you can make the determination How important is it to us? Now, one of the other things to keep in mind is that you may have a blind spot because you may not be very good at branded or unbranded organic search.

    In that instance, the thing to do to essentially to validate your findings is to run a survey either a formal one or just pick up the phone and call 10 of the leading companies in your industry that buy from you, your your, your customers, or potential customers and say hey, not trying to sell you I just want to know when you go out to bid for, you know, AIRPLANE SEAT materials, how do you do it? Do a focus group, do a one on one, interviews, whatever it takes to get the information from the kinds of companies you want to do business with and say, Hey, you know, I just want to know how you how you make that determination.

    What’s the process of travel if you’re willing to share it? I’ll give you $100 amazon gift card for your time or something.

    That qualitative information will give you some useful insights on the behavior of your buyers and how they think about buying because again, you may be a sector where is a good old boys network right and the all the supplier decisions may be made on a golf course.

    There are industries like that where there is no amount of branded search that will have any impact Because all the deals being made over beers, the ninth hole, right? where most people drink after the 18th hole, but anyway, that may be the way that decisions are made in your industry.

    And if you don’t know that, then you may focus heavily on the digital analytics, and not pay enough attention to what’s happening in the industry overall, the only way you find that out is through those interviews.

    If you can’t get 10 prospective customers on the line, then call 10 of your actual customers actually should probably call 10 your actual customers anyway and say, Hey, when you were searching for us, how did you find us? Right? Again, you want to try and make sure that you’re sampling from your broad customer, potential customer base as a whole because the people who are already customers, there’s kind of a bias built into your company, and they may be blind spots in that that you can’t see without having the perspective of those people who have not bought from you yet.

    Just please don’t try and sell them anything on the phone, you’re there just to gather information.

    And if they want information about your company say great after the call, let me connect you with a salesperson.

    But right now I’m just trying to do the job of understanding the buyer behavior, people tend to respect them.

    So that’s the approach I would take is set up your digital marketing analytics, your Google Analytics or the system of your choice, specifically for branded organic search.

    And then separately, run market research to ascertain the buyer behaviors.

    Those two things in concert will tell you an awful lot about how people are making decisions in your industry.

    And if there are there may be what you may end up doing is depending on how your intake forms go, when your sales process goes and things like that, you may end up having two sets of data that That could be conflicting, especially if you do the the 10 existing customer surveys and then you have your web analytics.

    In that case, depending on how good your CRM is, and I hope it’s really good.

    You may end up having to do what’s called propensity scoring, where you look at people who have bought and did not do random organic search and people who have bought and did do branded organic search, and essentially do a propensity score model on those two things to figure out what is the treatment impact of branded organic search on your customer pool.

    The challenge with that is that your customer, your CRM has to be really good.

    So good, that it can separate out and and essentially pulling like assisted conversion data and last touch a lot of CRMs are stuck on last touch attribution.

    It’s a terrible attribution model.

    And if you were to attempt to do that propensity scoring with Alaska, You’re going to get garbage.

    You have to have the assisted conversions in there.

    And so your CRM has to be set up for that.

    Very, very few.

    I’ve actually think I don’t think any out of the box have set up to do that.

    It’s a pain in the butt to do it.

    For sure, Salesforce comm can be made do it unhappily.

    I think Hubspot can be made to do it.

    But it’s not you won’t be able to use any of their built in reporting for it.

    You have to do it as a custom field.

    Yeah, it’s a pain.

    But it can be done and if you want to be able to ascertain the impact of any channel on customers, that would be the way to do it.

    So really good question.

    The answer is not as clear cut as you might think.

    If you have follow up questions about this or anything we talked about in this video, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Getting Started With Data-Driven SWOT Analysis?

    You Ask, I Answer: Getting Started With Data-Driven SWOT Analysis?

    Talesa asks, “How do you chip away at the progression of creating a data driven swot analysis on a small team that doesn’t already possess all the key skills?”

    In regard to a SWOT analysis using data, the place to start is to identify what data you do have, and whether it’s of any use to your company and competitors. For example, you might have lots of information on retweets – but is that a valuable measure? Doing this KPI identification is essential – start with the data you can get apples to apples comparisons about, and then determine if that data is useful.

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    In today’s episode to Lisa asks how to chip away at the progression of creating a data driven SWOT analysis on a small team that doesn’t already possess all the key skills.

    So this is very much a marketing data science question.

    In regards to SWOT analysis using data, there’s a bunch of different challenges here.

    But the place to start is to identify what data you do have, and whether it’s of any use to your company and competitors.

    For example, He could gather up publicly available for example, social media data like number of retweets or something.

    But while that is good to have that and be able to get it for competitors, the question is, is that a relevant metric? Probably not.

    Whereas, a relevant metric could be things like branded organic search, how many people per month are searching for your brand’s products and services by name? How many people are doing that by for a competitor of Starbucks coffee versus Dunkin Donuts, coffee.

    Once you’ve identified the data that you can get, you then have to run an analysis to look at is that data useful for SWOT analysis? Remember that SWOT analysis is basically strengths and weaknesses.

    Those are the things that you’re good at that you have control over.

    And opportunities and threats, which are, in many cases when you’re doing doing competitive SWOT analysis, as opposed to environmental, the strengths and weaknesses of your competitors.

    And so you do need to get that apples to apples data, what data can you get, there’s a whole bunch of data that for obvious reasons you cannot get ahold of.

    So the question is, what data can can you get ahold of and can you benchmark it against competitor search is useful social media can be useful, depending on how important it is, and how relevant is advertising data.

    Especially Pay Per Click ads, display ads, social media ads.

    And there are a number of tools out there that can get you that information.

    financial data can be available if it’s a publicly traded company, if you have a collection of publicly traded companies, whatever it is, you need to get the data first and then make that determination.

    Is this data something that we can get information about? So let’s talk to a quick example.

    Suppose you’re looking at search search data.

    You have branded and unbranded organic search, which is essentially people searching for you by name and people searching for your category.

    What percentage of the overall volume do you earn in branded search for people, some Search for your company’s name.

    What percentage of branded search? Do competitors get? How much traffic is right? If you get 10 branded searches a month and your competitor gets a million for their products and services, you know that you’ve got an uphill battle on it when it comes to building your brand.

    If you just no one’s searching for you by name, you don’t have mindshare.

    Nobody thinks I should search for Trust Insights when I need analytics help.

    If nobody remembers the company name, then that’s a pretty straightforward way to start your SWOT analysis right.

    You have your strengths, whatever they are.

    And in this example, if your weaknesses clearly brand organic search your your competitors threaten you with their strengths.

    Right? They have great brand organic search, what are their competitors, your competitors weak on in branded search? Are there certain product lines that are not as robust as they could be? Are there certain Negative searches like, you know, Starbucks, coffee socks, things like that.

    And so you can start to put together measurement based searches, then you can go a little further afield.

    Go down the demand or up the demand funnel, to unbranded search.

    So if people are searching for coffee shop near me, what do you strong on what keywords? What do you weak on? What are your competitors strong on? What are they weak on, and that now you’re starting to tease out the actual strategy of what it is that you can do.

    If your competitors are really strong on coffee shop near me, and you’re not you’re weak on it.

    But they’re weak on a suppressor shop near me, aha, that is an area of opportunity.

    And if you can build that into a strength, a position of strength, you can influence the mindshare and how much you how much search traffic you get hold of.

    So, this is a really great example of using a SWOT analysis Strengths, Weaknesses opportunities and threats for a specific type of data that is available for you and available for your competitors.

    Again, the same would be true for social media data.

    You can see, for example, how fast is a competitors account growing? How fast is your account growing? Can you determine why? What are their engagement rates look like, based on things like likes, comments and shares on their posts versus yours.

    The only caveat is that you need to have that benchmark of what data points are relevant to you.

    If social media accounts for, you know, 1% of the conversions that you have, then doing an exhaustive SWOT analysis may not be worth the time.

    On the other hand, for example, in organic searches, 75% of all your online conversions, you bet your but you’d better be doing an exhaustive, search based SWOT analysis.

    This is what that data.

    So the easy way to start there is go into your Google Analytics Look at your assisted conversions.

    And look at the channels, what channels are driving conversions.

    And then do you have available data for yourself and your competitors for those channels, you can get some level of referral traffic, for example, you’ll get a lot that through SEO tools, you can get some level of search data, actually a lot of search data, you can get some level social data, really tough to get email data other than things like you know, domains being blacklisted and stuff.

    But for the most part, email data is very difficult to get ahold of.

    You can probably not get do a whole lot with direct traffic in general.

    You can get some advertising data.

    So use your Google Analytics data to tell you what’s important to you on a channel basis because the channels that are converting for you may not be converting for customer competitors.

    But if they’re converting for you Then those are areas that you definitely want to win in and take share away from competitors as well.

    So that’s how it started chipping away at this progression, you’re not going to nail it straight out of the gate.

    But you can at least start getting the basic data together using Google Analytics to calibrate which data to look at.

    And then once you’ve pulled in that data, just start doing your best with with even just basics like which number is bigger, right? You don’t necessarily need to jump into hardcore statistical analysis right away.

    If you’re just trying to get a lay of the land.

    This is a really good question.

    It’s a fascinating question, because most people don’t use data this way.

    Most people just look at their own data or look at a competitor’s day, but don’t ever put it in that SWOT framework that is very helpful for understanding how the different data points compare and contrast with each other.

    This is a really good question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Can AI Write as Well as a Human?

    You Ask, I Answer: Can AI Write as Well as a Human?

    Deborah asks, “Can AI write as well as a human?”

    The answer depends on what the human is writing. If it’s complex, original works like novels, the answer is no. If it’s marketing swill, the answer is yes. If we examine some common readability metrics – which are decent proxies for content quality – we see that marketing-centric content tends to be junk writing.

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    In today’s episode Deborah asks Can AI right as well as a human? Well? The answer is it depends on what the human is writing language generation models, natural language generation of models, like open a eyes GPT series of models, or the T five Transformers from Google can write reasonably well, you know, in a very general sense, but the more specific the task, the better they get, the more guidance you give them and more guardrails you put on the better they get something like a complex original work like say a novel answer’s no machines cannot write as well as human not without an extraordinary amount of training and resources.

    To the point where it’s not cost efficient, you’d be better off hiring novelist to write a novel, then you would be to try and train a machine.

    Even if the machine could generate, you know, 1000 pulp novels.

    The amount of editing time and QA that would have to go into it would effectively negate any gains you got out of it.

    Now, if it’s marketing swill, the answer is yes.

    And the reason for that is, a lot of what we write in marketing is junk, right? It’s not very good quality content.

    It’s actually it’s pretty appallingly bad content.

    And it’s easy for machines to replicate crap.

    Think about a bell curve, right? On one end, you have low quality content on another and you have high quality content in the middle is a bunch of mediocre stuff.

    As machines evolve, they go from, they can replicate total garbage, right, because that’s pretty easy.

    And then they start to iterate and get slightly better and now they’re kind of at the meeting.

    Yoker phase, right? They can write mediocre marketing as well, can they write good quality copy or great quality copy, not really not without, again, a lot of training to the point where it is not cost efficient to do that unless you’re a company that is dedicated to doing that.

    But if you or the look at the metrics, in fact, let’s do this.

    Let’s bring this up here.

    What we’re looking at here is four sets of readability scores for a lot of marketing copy.

    So this is articles, blog posts, press releases, essentially it is content marketing stuff, right and not very good.

    And this is 130,000 of these that we have stored in the TrustInsights.ai database.

    I have four quadrants, we have the jargon score, which is the smog score, simple measure of gobbledygook.

    We have the flesh Kincaid readability index.

    We have the Coleman layout index.

    And the flesh Kincaid grade level.

    What you notice here is that there is a definite skew towards the right side for three graphs and sort of a bell curve in the middle.

    So let’s walk through these briefly.

    The jargon score, lower is better, right? So you want that content be easier to read than harder to read.

    And in this case, there’s a very definite kurtosis or lean towards the harder to read side means that our content is full of jargon, and a lot of it on readability, the readability score, 100 is great.

    Zero is bad.

    And we see a bell curve there in the middle, you know, 5055 60 is where most continents so it’s, again, it’s mediocre content, right? There’s very, very little on the far side here of the readability index, it says, Yeah, you got great content, very thin.

    On Coleman Liao.

    Again, this is similar to grade level, you can see there’s a tremendous amount of very difficult to Read content on the far right hand side and then I’ll hold opposite field.

    And then on the flesh Kincaid grade level, we see that marketing content is around nine ninth to 11th grade content because of the jargon because of the amount of stuff that we put in our copy that is difficult to read.

    That is extensively polysyllabic, which means that we use real big words.

    You know, think about the, the list of corporate buzzwords that we love to use.

    And you can see that reflected here in this data that this data very clearly shows we love our our fancy, complicated language.

    When you have language like that, when you have, you know, buzzword bingo, you have templates, an awful lot of things like you know, basic blog posts are very templated when you have press releases, announcements, They all follow a copy that is so formulaic, that is very easy for machines to replicate and probably do a better job than the majority of humans.

    Because when these natural language generation models are trained on language, they’re not trained on just one specific domain.

    They’re trained on as much language as possible.

    The most recent version of GPG three was trained on something like 170 5 billion parameters, which is a massive, massive, massive amount of texts, basically, the bulk of the readable text in English online.

    That means that when these machines go to generate language, they will naturally use more vocabulary a little bit more.

    lexical diversity is the technical term than a human would because in a lot of cases, humans will just copy and paste the last thing they did.

    I used to work at a public relations agency and I would literally watch you know, Junior associates Just copy and paste from one press release to the next change the name of the company in the name of the CEO.

    But effectively, they all say the same thing.

    You know, the chief executive says, you know, we’re so excited or proud or pleased or release our new version, whatever, whatever, whatever.

    And we’re flexible, scalable, industry leading agile, you know, can a machine replicate that hundred percent, hundred percent a machine can replicate that and do better than, than the humans do? So can AI right as well as the human? It depends on the context.

    But for sure.

    machines can now right at, I would say the mediocre level, right? The they could they’ve got bad down.

    They’ve got a mat down.

    They’ve got they’re getting mediocre down.

    Now.

    As each model improves, as the technology improves, they will eventually get down good.

    Good writing.

    Right.

    And for those companies that have the strongest infrastructure and the greatest level of resources, some will get great writing down.

    What does that mean for you as a as a marketing practitioner, it means that you’ve got to be improving your skills.

    If you are on the bad side of writing, you probably need to stop writing for marketing and look at a different profession.

    Because the machines can already crank out swell better than you can.

    If you’re in the mat mediocre, you better uplevel those skills, take some courses, do some writing workshops, do anything that whatever you can do, that will improve your skills and get them to good write.

    If you’re a good writer, you’ll keep working to become a great writer.

    But whatever you do, you cannot stay static.

    You cannot just rest on your laurels at wherever you are this continuum.

    Because the machines are advancing faster than then we are collectively.

    Will there come a day when you push a button and the machine spits out a novel probably We are already seeing a prototype examples of this with GPT three open AI model.

    Is it good yet? No.

    But it definitely shows what is possible.

    What is what is theoretically possible.

    And what is possible today is easily achievable in five to 10 years, maybe less depending on how fast compute power goes up.

    So that’s the answer to this question.

    AI can write as well as humans who are bad at their job.

    AI can write as well as humans who were mediocre at their job.

    And AI will eventually write as well as humans who are good at their job.

    So your job as a human is to become great at writing so that you stay ahead of the machines.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Failures and Company Impact?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media Failures and Company Impact?

    Kat asks, “we hear all the time that when a company has a public misstep, that they will face impact them negatively, but there’s never been any type of relevant study that dives into this topic of social/digital reviews and brand impact/stock price/revenue. Have you seen anything?”

    The challenge with using any public form of data, but especially stock price, is confounding data.

    For example, a company that makes repeated social media faux pas also may not be well run, so the data point you’d calibrate on – stock price – may not provide any useful data.

    That’s doubly true for brands in portfolios – Blizzard Entertainment routinely pisses off its player base, but the parent – Activision Blizzard – still notches up impressive results.

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    In today’s episode cat asks, we hear all the time that when a company has a public misstep that they will face impact negatively.

    But there’s never been any kind of relevant study that dives into this topic of social digital reviews and brand impact stock price or revenue.

    Have you seen anything? So the challenge with using any kind of public data like this, especially stock price is confounding data.

    confounding data is when you have multiple contributors to an outcome.

    So there’s a lot that goes into a stock price.

    There’s obviously the trading the buying and the selling, there is the investor sentiment, and there is very troublingly, the fact that the investors may not be the customers, right.

    They may not have any connection to the customers they are trading simply on things like technicals.

    They are trading on fundamentals, they are trading on all sorts of things that may not be connected to reality.

    But the outside world, the stock market is actually a relatively poor indicator of a whole bunch of things, it is a good way to make some money, but it is not a good way to to try and ascertain the impact of what a company does other than on the basics like earnings.

    And with the stock market, there are also all sorts of what are called shadow inputs or hidden inputs to the stock price.

    So there can be you know, pools of trading, there can be institutional investing that is, is snapping up stocks, not necessarily even on you know, what the company means or even what the company does just the fact that it you know, makes a certain margin or a certain amount of return on investment.

    And the stock market is also very much a lagging indicator.

    And the lag can be sometimes substantial depending again on on who’s doing the investing.

    A major portion of stock market investments are done by institutions, institutional investing, ETFs funds, hedge funds, all all these huge conglomerates.

    And as a result, they may buy, you know, infrequently, sometimes months at a time, they’re looking at stuff to basically buy and hold and manage portfolio.

    So, to try and calibrate social media on stock price is probably not going to yield anything useful.

    For the majority of cases.

    This is doubly true.

    Because even if there was some impact, there are additional confounding variables.

    So let’s say you have a company that has repeated public football, right, they just repeatedly stick their foot in their mouth all The time and they fess up the change their ways they clean house, you know, public resignations and all this stuff.

    And what happens, the stock price might improve? Well, was social media, the driver of that? Or was the fact that the people running things might have just been really bad managers for a variety of reasons, and getting rid of them? improved things.

    That is another example of a confounding variable where you just had a crappy manager, or crappy executive get rid of that person and it solves a whole bunch of problems.

    Certainly, I remember my days working in, in the agency world, getting rid of one bad apple could change an entire offices performance and entire company’s performance.

    So that’s a confounding variable as well.

    Was social media responsible for the problem? No, it may have highlighted the problem but the ultimate problem was A bad apple in the bunch.

    Then, to add more complexity on top of that, there’s the issue of portfolios.

    portfolio companies.

    A company may belong to a bigger holding company, and as a result, its performance may get masked.

    So, for example, Blizzard Entertainment now is part of Activision Blizzard.

    Blizzard itself does all sorts of things Pez users off all the time.

    And they’ve made some pretty hilarious missteps.

    The most recent Warcraft three reforged comes to mind as having the lowest game rating on Metacritic ever.

    And it was because they made a bad product.

    Does their stock price reflect that even though that was what, five or six months ago? Does their stock price reflect the fact that this game was a dud and then a whole bunch of people want their refunds and and eventually the company had to set up an automatic refund.

    Fun process.

    Now, in fact, the stocks doing better than ever.

    Why? Because they’re part of a portfolio company, Activision Blizzard.

    And there are so many other companies and games and franchises in this, that mask the performance of that one unit.

    And even though there’s a tremendous amount of social media conversation, most of it negative about their stuff.

    It doesn’t have an impact on the stock price.

    Why? Well, we had to have this little pandemic we’re dealing with.

    And as a result, a whole bunch of people have taken up playing all sorts of video games of every kind.

    Every single gaming company has had massive growth in the last six months, for obvious reasons.

    As a result, even if Activision Blizzard made, you know, crap.

    In this entire time period, their stock performed really well their company performed really well because of external circumstances that really benefited them.

    So we can’t use these data points to ascertain the impact of social media easily.

    Could you assemble a data set of every publicly traded company and diagram out or mark in the data set those periods when there was a social media crisis, maybe an announcement like the seven days following? And could you then run something like a propensity score model on it? Absolutely.

    You could.

    I don’t know if anyone has done that either.

    Because putting together that data set would be extremely laborious.

    And I don’t know that you would find what you’re looking for.

    Again, there’s too many confounding variables.

    So if you wanted to prove the impact of social media, what could you do to understand it? One potential way would be studying organic search patterns.

    for that company that are specific to purchase intent, so using, like an old fashion retailer kind of cold, right? They’ve had a variety of Foot and Mouth moments.

    If you were to study the people who are searching with some level of intent like Kenneth Cole near me, you might be able to ascertain whether that has diminished over time as a result of repeated Foot and Mouth incidents.

    But again, everything has changed since March 15 of this year, at least in the United States.

    That’s what the timeline we’re using for that, for the pandemic.

    You don’t search for that right now.

    Because you can’t go to the store.

    It’s not open or it’s it’s highly restricted.

    So something like that, that is a that particular no physical location search intent would not work you’d have to do something else.

    And then, again, run propensity to Score model, even a PSA multiple linear regression against that.

    Those two things, the social media track record, and the search intent to see if it has diminished at all.

    But with the understanding that even with that there’s a tremendous number of confounding variables, the amount of advertising you’re running, how good you are at SEO.

    Other things, social media, very often does not have a huge role in a company’s results.

    You could win over the data set down to those companies that are highly active.

    But then you’re not going to necessarily prove that social media by itself does something so much as active social media companies behave differently be a different cohort.

    So there’s a lot to dig into.

    And I would certainly if you know of a data set or a peer reviewed study that has looked at this, please put it in the comments below along with your questions.

    I’d love to read about it to your follow up questions again.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Merging Liberal Arts with Computer Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Merging Liberal Arts with Computer Science?

    Mbeiza asks, “Merging Liberal arts with science helps make what one has to offer unique. How can I merge the liberal arts with what I want to do in order to have a unique skill or product to offer?”

    Fundamentally, a successful marketer has to be both qualitative and quantitative – the ability to be half art, half science. The first step is to determine where you’re weakest. How well do you know things like anthropology and ethnography? Music, art, literature -all the different ways we communicate with each other? Psychology, sociology, etc. You’ll find in each domain there are qualitative concepts to explore and quantitative concepts as well.

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    In today’s episode and bays asks, merging liberal arts with science helps make what one has to offer unique How can I merge the liberal arts with what I wanted to do in order to have a unique skill or product offer.

    So fundamentally successful marketer has to be both qualitative and quantitative, that is half art, half science, there really is no way to be successful going forward, that it’s something that’s too narrowly specialized unless you are literally no one of the top 1% in that specialization.

    And the reason for that is that artificial intelligence continues to make such substantial strides that within the span of our lifetimes, many individual tasks will be turned over to machines to do Now that doesn’t necessarily mean that we are going away per se, but it means that we will need fewer, far fewer of us.

    In order to get work done.

    I’ve often said be like being a conductor of the orchestra.

    Rather than being the first violin challenges.

    Of course, you only need one conductor in the orchestra.

    Whereas you have lots and lots of musicians.

    But if all musicians are performing narrow specializations, like violin or clarinet or whatever, then you don’t really need people for those other roles.

    So to be a successful marketer going forward to plan well for the future, and quite frankly, to be well structured for whatever challenges come your way.

    I really do believe that, that liberal arts education, that broad spectrum of knowledge is important and yes, you will find not every subjects exciting.

    Certainly, that was my experience, but you have to be half hearted Half science, creative and quantitative, rigorous, but also able to, to vary outside the rules when you need to.

    And the first step to making that determination is figure out what your weakest.

    Where are your vulnerabilities.

    Think about what marketing and business to a greater or lesser degree fundamentally is.

    It’s about communication, right? It’s about communication people, which means that we need to understand people, we need to understand communication.

    So that means subjects like anthropology and ethnography, being able to understand how people interact with each other.

    And sort of the history of their ability to do that.

    That means understanding psychology and sociology.

    Again, individual behaviors group behaviors.

    That means understanding communications methods, visual auditory kinesthetic, so music, art, literature, dance, not necessarily doing those things.

    Although it certainly doesn’t hurt, but at the very least understanding what those things are and how they’ve evolved, especially in a global economy, one of the challenges that a lot of students will face is that their learning materials tend to be skewed towards a certain point of view.

    This is especially true in the United States where everything is overly centered, centered on the United States and kind of ignores the rest of the world is why 11% of students in America can’t find America on a map.

    Anyway.

    So music, art, literature, dance, all the different ways you can communicate with people visually, auditorily kinesthetically to convey messages to them.

    And then absolutely, I’m hard sciences.

    You’re talking about statistics and probability, mathematics all the way up through things like linear algebra, and advanced calculus.

    You’re talking about the scientific method to some degree, understanding things.

    Like biology and chemistry and physics actually do have relevance to marketing, to understanding why things happen the way they do, especially when you start to get into really complex subjects.

    Like why like how machine learning works, machine learning and AI, coding, being able to write in Python are being able to use databases.

    Marketing is essentially how to interact with the human race.

    Right.

    And so everything that is in the human experience is something that you can study and it will have value for understanding certain groups of people.

    I wouldn’t be so worried about a product to offer.

    And at this point, I would not be terribly concerned about having a specific unique skill to develop.

    What you want to be able to do is have a broad base of knowledge to draw from that you can bring to a variety of situations that will really help you Form problems that you’re asked helps off and be extremely versatile.

    So whatever the challenge is, you have some level of competency that can make the challenge a little bit less daunting.

    That’s why things like you know, technical skills, being able to write code, but being able to interact with something like music, together are much more difficult for machines to copy.

    AI is very bad at broad knowledge.

    AI is very good at narrow domains.

    If you can have that broad knowledge that lets you develop multidisciplinary domain expertise.

    It’s very hard for machine to copy.

    It’s very hard for machines to create because most people are not that way.

    And because we train machines on past existing data, if you can create things that are net new that are not part of the machines previous corpus of learning We’re not in a substantial enough way.

    You can add value the machines simply cannot.

    So that’s a lot to tackle.

    Again, figuring out where you’re weak, where you’re weakest as a, as a learned person is the first step.

    What are all the things that you could study? What are the things that are likely to be important? And I forgot to mention in there One other area that’s really important, particularly if you are in marketing is the ability to study business, right? Everything from operations to management to finance, I can’t tell you how many marketers I’ve met who have absolutely no idea how to compute ROI, how to compute, net profit, things like that.

    So those basics are super important as well and are definitely lacking.

    So where are you weakest and where were you also strongest, whether the areas that are so appealing to you that if you could just do those things or study those things deeply.

    How can you bring other disciplines into those areas of study, for example, I’ve spent a lot of time on analytics.

    I spent a lot of time on an in data science, but I also spent a fair amount of time doing natural language processing.

    So understanding literature and styles and writing and all these things is important to being able to do that well, not necessarily just to be able to write the code, but also to know what to look for, to know to be able to judge the merits of something based on the outputs it gives, working on a piece of code that deals within stylometry, which is the measurement of writing styles.

    And if you didn’t know anything about how, you know, different authors have different styles and you weren’t able to have that knowledge base, then when the machine spits out results, there’s no way of knowing whether it did a good job or not.

    But if you have some level of domain expertise in that, you can you can fact check the machines.

    So that’s a lot to tackle.

    Again, start with the evaluation.

    Figure out where your weakest wins and then double down on what you’re strong at and mitigate where you weakest.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Why do Recommendation Engines Fail?

    You Ask, I Answer: Why do Recommendation Engines Fail?

    Oz asks, “Why is some consumer AI so bad? Instagram senses that I like bright-colored clothes. Then it shows me ads for bright-colored clothes that are also cheap crap that I’d never buy. What is the perspective of the companies?
    – It works great for most people.
    – We just need to get this right for 5% of people and that covers the cost.
    – We know it generally sucks but it’s better than nothing.”

    A lot of it is based on recommendation engines which have two issues – first, superficial data, and two, they’re a generation or two behind what’s current because of the enormous computational costs. Something like Netflix is going to use something like an LSTM because while it may not be as accurate, it scales much better than a gigantic, many-layer neural network that wouldn’t be able to update in real-time after you watched something.

    A third part has to do with compensation model and objective optimization. What is the objective these ad systems are tuned for?

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    In today’s episode oz asks, Why is some consumer AI so bad? Instagram, for example, senses that I like bright colored clothes, then it shows me add some bright colored clothes, they’re also cheap crap that I’d never buy.

    What is the perspective of these tech companies? Is it doesn’t that work great for most people, we just need to get this right.

    For five people, it covers the cost, we know generally sucks, but it’s better than nothing.

    So it was a good question.

    The answer has a lot to do with how recommendation engine technology works, recommendation technologies, take in datasets and essentially try and find patterns in those datasets to to predict outcomes, right.

    So if we, if you like these certain things are going to predict certain other things.

    recommendation engines can use a lot of very different algorithms under the hood.

    And one of the challenges we have and it’s a challenge in the industry overall, is that a lot of these companies don’t reveal what is in their algorithm, what algorithm they’re using? Are they using something as simple as like, a naive Bayesian classifier? Are they using something as complex as you know, a many, many layer deep neural network? Are they using, you know, k nearest neighbor clustering? We don’t know.

    We don’t know what’s under the hood.

    And so we don’t we can’t necessarily offer input as to why some things behave the way they do.

    But there’s two general considerations.

    Well, three general considerations as to why some of these algorithms Don’t spit out useful stuff.

    The first by far the most likely is computational cost.

    The more complex the algorithm, the more it costs to run it.

    And the cost here is in compute computational capacity, how fast can you get the result? With a lot of ad systems for example, you were talking about millisecond response times.

    Particularly when you’re doing stuff like header bidding, and things where there is a real time auction going on.

    And ad systems have to match and generate results extremely quickly.

    And as a result, they have to pick algorithms that are super, super fast, even if the accuracy is leaves a little something to be desired.

    I mean, it’s better than nothing.

    For those who remember the early days of digital marketing, you’d be browsing on the website and you’d have like, you know, a Medicare wheelchair program being displayed to someone who’s you know, 22 and healthy.

    It’s like, no, that’s completely incorrectly targeted.

    Speaking of which, there is always the potential for advertisers themselves simply being so bad at advertising that they they have blanket targeting.

    And all the machines cannot override a user’s preferences of the the advertiser says, Hey, I want to advertise to every living person within the boundaries of this nation.

    Okay, as long as you got the budget to support it, it’s going to do that But computational cost is a big thing.

    Second thing is what data you have going in the data that goes into the system may not be robust enough to offer anything that has true predictive power.

    Especially if and this is important, especially if companies are correctly implementing ethical, unbiased AI.

    You may not for example in a lot of cases judge somebody and you know, tune your ads on a protected class or you shouldn’t be let’s put it that way.

    And so if the advertising that comes out is incorrectly targeted because you back end you know, ethical checker said, Hey, you can’t use racist as a targeting criteria for ads.

    Okay, so now you’re gonna get, you know, Sham why, even if that’s not something that you want, because there may be some balancing happening behind the scenes to ensure that the protected class is not being used.

    A third part is objective optimization.

    And this is where this is where advertisers should be a little bit concerned.

    Objective optimization and compensation models dictate how advertising networks work.

    What does the ad network get paid for? They get paid for the impression.

    Do they get paid for the click? Do they get paid for the outcome? advertisers have been pushing to very little success over the last 20 years with digital marketing to have average to have a action based or outcome based advertising where you get paid for the lead generated you get paid for the form filled out, you get paid for the shopping cart filled.

    And understandably, the big ad networks have absolutely zero interest in doing this because it means much more rigorous computation on the back end, it means much more in depth tracking.

    There may be substantial risks to the ad network because yet You could potentially, inadvertently or intentionally be collecting sensitive protected information.

    And frankly, most ad networks realize that behind the scenes, ad performance across the board is pretty crappy.

    I mean, we think about it.

    When you look at like the click through rates on some of these ads, you know, look at these campaigns, you know, when people celebrate like crazy when they get like a 5%, click through rate, which when you think about means you wasted 95% of your budget, right? If you didn’t get more than 5% of the clicks.

    From the advertiser perspective, you’re like, well, what did I pay for? If these systems were tuned to results only? advertising? It’d be a very different and much worse calculus for the ad networks because they wouldn’t get paid unless they got the result.

    Is there a possibility that companies could pivot that way, potentially.

    But right now, everything in advertising is effectively cost per impression when you look at the back end reporting and you see All these metrics in like Facebook stuff, effective cost per click, now what you’re really doing is you’re, you’re still doing all your bidding by impressions.

    And you’re still doing all your optimization on that.

    And as a result, it doesn’t really matter to the ad network, whether or not you click on the thing beyond with a reasonable doubt, but for the most part, it doesn’t matter because they’re getting paid on the impression, not getting paid a click for the most part, then definitely getting paid on the action that was taken.

    Now if advertisers forced ad networks to to pivot and said, Look, we’re not going to pay you unless you deliver results that would drastically change.

    The machine learning outcomes that allow these systems are tuned on, it would make them computationally much more expensive, because you would have to be, you wouldn’t be able to do simple stuff like k nearest neighbor clustering, just on on impressions, right? You would have to collect a lot more data, you’d have to collect a ton more data.

    And that would make for a very, very different optimization.

    When you look at how, for example, LinkedIn works versus how Facebook works for this advertising, LinkedIn stuff works very differently because they have as one of their major outcomes, we need to keep people on this professional network so that our enterprise talent management software, which is 40% of their revenue, can draw useful data from people’s profiles and recommend it to recruiters.

    It’s a, that’s an example of a system that is much more outcome based.

    And as a result, you see a very different culture on LinkedIn, you see very different advertising on LinkedIn.

    Whereas Facebook is like, show all the show every ad possible, see what people click on.

    Cool, great, whatever.

    Same with Instagram, we get paid on the view.

    So who cares what the result is.

    So that’s why consumer AI is so sometimes untuned there’s a bunch of different reasons and there’s no way to clearly tell without independent third party audits, what’s going on behind the scenes, how it’s working.

    I would love for company He’s like Facebook, for example, to reveal, hey, this is how we do the thing.

    These are the inputs.

    This is how the system is optimized.

    But that is literally their secret sauce.

    It’s unlikely that they would ever reveal that even if they could.

    Because in a lot of cases, some of these in Facebook’s case, their neural networks are so complex.

    I doubt there’s any single human could that could even interpret what’s going on behind the scenes.

    The models are just that big.

    So really good question.

    There’s a lot to unpack in here about how these algorithms work, how they’re tuned, and what’s going on underneath the hood.

    Hopefully as time goes on, we will see advertising itself pivot more towards results based advertising as well.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Why Map Customer Journeys?

    You Ask, I Answer: Why Map Customer Journeys?

    John asks, “If the customer journey is different for every person, why bother trying to map it?”

    The presumption is that the customer journey is a wide open field of possibilities, when it’s more like a densely wooded forest. There are a limited number of rational pathways to conversion, and mapping both the probability and the journey itself – especially today – is worth doing. Watch the video for some examples.

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    In today’s episode, John asks if the customer journey is different for every person, why bother trying to map it? So that’s a good question.

    Because it is true that customer journeys, maps, and customer journeys do have all these different ways people can take towards conversion and trying to force people down a rigid funnel, where they must do each step in sequence is nowadays largely a futile effort.

    Now the reason for that is pretty simple.

    It has a lot to do with this thing.

    You can be in multiple stages of different journeys just within a single device.

    I have seen people back when you were allowed to go shopping at malls and stores, talking to friends on their phones, video chatting with them, and having you know holding a piece of merchandise asking their opinions and having them do some research on Their own.

    And you know, that person for one vendor is at a certain point in the journey and another vendor is at a different point in the journey.

    And so it can be a very complex thing.

    You can be at points in the customer journey and move backwards, right? So real simple example, you’re, you’re looking at a new device or some new gadget, and you’re at the consideration phase, like, wow, this this thing looks really good, looks really cool.

    And then you read a review of it, like, ah, actually got really bad reviews.

    And you go back to like the research phase, right? And so you can be, you can move forwards and backwards and inside of a customer journey.

    Now, that said, that is at the individual level.

    The presumption in the question is that a customer journey is a wide open field of possibilities, and you can move any direction you want, you know, it’s like being in a video game, right? You can go anywhere you want, and there’s no clear direction that somebody goes and that’s not true.

    When we think about customer journeys, there is there are a limited number of ways you can rationally buy a product, right? There’s a limited number of opportunities.

    There’s a limited number of just ways you can do that.

    It’s kind of like we talked about in the martial arts a lot.

    Yes, every single person is different.

    Yes, there are hundreds of martial art styles.

    But in the end, there’s only so many ways you can punch somebody in the face that aren’t that are logical and rational, right and effective.

    And so, with customer journeys, the exact same thing is true.

    There are only so many rational reasonable ways that you can take towards conversion and that is something that you can understand in the aggregate.

    There’s an apocryphal tale of a university and I someplace supposedly in the Midwest, I’ve never actually got an answer as to whether this happened or not.

    But it seems reasonable.

    And the story goes, they did not put down any sidewalks on new campus lets students walk everywhere they wanted for a year and then paved over the most warm pathways in the grass.

    And supposedly the campus feels more natural.

    Well, extending that logic to customer journeys, if you were to know how somebody traversed either your website or how somebody traversed all the channels that are out there, towards conversion, you looked at the most walked on ones, you might get a sense of, hey, here’s how people make the journey to conversion.

    And there’s a couple different ways you can illustrate this.

    Let’s actually go ahead and bring this up here.

    So this is a customer journey analysis.

    This is a very simplistic one, where we are just looking at the channels that lead to conversion the most.

    So in this chart here we see organic search for my website drove almost 80% of traffic.

    Now, there are some debates.

    I think it’s a reasonable questions I should be asking my website if this was a major commercial enterprise, I would be at substantial risk because 80% of our traffic comes from one source That’s not a good thing.

    Good definitely did diversify my traffic sources.

    But putting that aside, I see my newsletters as number two, medium calm and number three, Twitter at number four, and Bing and number five.

    So I have five of the most popular pathways most popular channels that lead to conversion eventually.

    Now, is that the last thing that they did? No, not necessarily.

    But at least from here, I can see, these are the things that if I have to figure out how do I budget, how do I resource, what should I focus on if I want to double down on what’s working, in this case, pretty clearly I should be doing a lot more organic search.

    Right.

    Now if we wanted to make that even more fancy.

    This is a version where we have the exact same numbers but in software in web analytics software in particular.

    You can look at the the steps somebody takes on that Their journey and then just count up essentially, how many times does this appear? The first third of the journey, how many times has appeared in the second third of all those steps? How many times does appear in the last third.

    And what we see here is that organic search for me tends to peer towards the beginning.

    Whereas email and social tend to peer towards the end.

    And so people discover my site through search, stay in touch with email, and then come back to do important stuff through social media.

    That’s important that tells me from a messaging perspective Hey, your messaging on things like social media, it’s okay for you to have you know, more closing language in in my content because it tells me that people are ready or more ready to convert from those than they are from say, like organic search, or even email I have to give some thought here to my email marketing, should I be pressing that hard to get people to convert? Or should I be nurturing? The relationship with the intent of eventually using social media to get them to close.

    So these are two examples of customer journey maps that I built for my website.

    This is actually a service that I offer through my company Trust Insights.

    If you’re interested in having this done for your company, go to Trust insights.ai.

    I will tell you right now, it is reassuringly expensive.

    So it will do a good job of giving you the strategic blueprint you need for what’s working, and how it’s working.

    But to go back to John’s question, there are only a certain number of ways as you can see here, where people convert, right, that journey is not completely irrational, right? And there’s not traffic everywhere and people just wandering off on their own.

    There are distinct sequences that people take towards conversion and those distinct sequences are things that we can know and address and serve at 90 95% of our audience.

    serve them well.

    By investing properly by messaging properly in the channel groupings, where it makes sense to do so.

    And understanding what it is that we should be doing more of I should potentially be diversifying a bit, right? Maybe I should do a little bit more email, maybe I should try some ads.

    I am doing well, organic search, I need to continue to do well and stuff.

    So that want to double down on what’s working and want to shore up the stuff that isn’t working to the extent that we can.

    So that’s why you would do customer journey mapping.

    That’s why you bother trying to map it because it can give you aggregate insights that can guide your strategy.

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