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You Ask, I Answer: Removing AI Bias by Removing Data?
Tammy asks, “There was a talk this week about AI and ML and I was disturbed by a claim a speaker made at the CXL conference. He basically asserted that we should not be concerned about bias being trained into AI because we can just ‘remove the variable from the model that causes the bias.’ Essentially if we don’t want the model to bias against race then we should take race out of the model. What do you make of this?”

This person has no business building AI models, as they have no understanding of bias. They will create models that are inaccurate at best and dangerous at worst. Watch the episode to find out the correct way to deal with bias and how systems like IBM Watson Studio and IBM Watson OpenScale correctly help you manage bias in your data.

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In today’s episode Tammy asks, there was talk this week about AI and machine learning and AI was disturbed by a claim a speaker made at the CFL conference, he basically said that we should not be concerned about bias being trained into AI, because we can just quote remove the variable from the model that causes the bias. Essentially, if we don’t want the model to bias against race, then we should take race out of the model. What do you make of this? This speakers an idiot, this speakers at it who is completely unqualified to be doing artificial intelligence and machine learning? There is no polite way of saying that this person, I’m assuming it’s a guy because you use the heat pronoun but this person has no business making artificial intelligence models. And this is one of the reasons why people talk seriously about things like certification or qualification. Because if this person deploys this modeled in the wild input

They are going to create her randomly biased models. Here’s why removing a variable from a model because you don’t like the effect it creates is functionally like saying I don’t like that my car is going off to one side because of the right we also want to remove the right we’ll, we’ll know what if that we also important, what if it is? Is it a critical piece of the model? That is that philosophy so I’ll just remove the thing is causing the problem was completely wrong.

The reason why, in addition to the variable right that might be important is that

just because you remove the explicit variable does not mean you remove the bias from the model. machine learning models, particularly deep learning models, but even ones like gradient boosting models can create what is called inferred variables. This is when you engineer or the machine auto engineers variables together

that move in sync

For example, suppose you have Facebook data, and you have collected, books you like and movies you like and music you like. Guess what that combination of data is so good a predictor of age of race, of religion of gender, that when the machine creates an inferred variable from that, it will rebuild age and race and gender and then discriminate on it. And because you’ve removed or you’ve removed race, from the model, you make the assumption that the model is no longer biased, when in fact, it has rebuilt those biases right in and now because you think you’ve removed it, you’re no longer looking for it, you’re no longer trying to detect it. And that means that the model can go wildly off course.

So this person’s an idiot. What’s the right way to do this? The right way to do this is to do

What IBM does,

which is to in your systems and your modeling software and your production software and your monitoring software for AI, you declare protected classes, you say age is a protected class and must fit the natural demographic skew of the population you’re targeting against race is a protected class, you may not discriminate outside certain variances, gender is a protected class. For example, if you were to say that your gender of the gender split between male and female should be roughly 5050 or 4545 and 10 for for non binary folks, whatever the case may be, you declare to the system this is protected, you may not deviate outside of these norms beyond like one or 2%. And then what the system does is it holds those those variables as anchor points and when it builds a model around them. It does

does not allow the model to pull those variances in any direction. It’s kind of like again the example of a tire on your car that’s out of alignment.

This essentially puts a you know, additional hands on the steering wheel to keep the car going in the direction it’s supposed to be going and not allow that that one walkies hired a pole the car in the wrong direction

by using protected classes as as part of the model and declaring that they are protected classes, you ensure that the model will not be biased because the model cannot use those variables for determination. For as as targets as as as as inputs beyond a certain point, and you also make them targets you say you must meet this qualification you must stay within this lane.

Watson’s open scale product does this really well in production, which by the way is really important because after you deploy the model if you’re not monitoring

For biases creeping in as the model is in production, you risk very serious consequences Amazon found that out the hard way when their HR system started systematically discriminating against women nobody was watching the system in real time to say um let’s that’s that’s know yet the 5050 in our, in our test data, our training data has become 9010. And in our in our production data

you want you want systems in place in production that are monitoring and holding those predictive classes in place and alerts you and says hey, something is going awry. Microsoft found that out the hard way with their tail Twitter bot which got turned into a racist porn button 24 hours nobody put guard rails on it. Nobody said these are the things you may not do. And had somebody thought that through that might have been a slightly more successful experiments. So

know removing the variables from the model

Because the bias does not eliminate bias, if anything, it makes it worse because it reduces the explain ability to interpret ability of the model instead, the right way is to protect the variables that are protected classes that are protected aspects. And then be keeping an eye on your models be keeping an eye on your data be keeping an eye on the results that system puts out. And be fact checking it. This is a critical career and a lot of ways right now. And for the next couple of years of someone supervising the machines and saying machine that is not an okay, output. Explain yourself, tell me why you made those decisions. And that’s another critical point that this person clearly has no understanding of.

All of your model should have interpret ability built into them, all of your model should have the ability to spit out hey, here’s how I made these decisions. Here’s what’s in the black box. Deep Learning

in particular has gotten so much

Better and the last six months in showing how a machine made a model that there’s no excuse anymore for saying let’s just a black box and we know how it works but it’s the right answer Well, you don’t know that and regulations like GDPR require require you by law to be able to explain your models. So using software like IBM Watson studio and and Watson open skill will help you hit those benchmarks and make sure that you are compliant with the law. So what I make of this this person has no business building AI models this person is probably should take a course in ethics. I strongly recommend anybody who’s looking to get into this stuff to read Dr. Hillary Mason’s free, completely free book on Amazon called ethics and data science. You need to read it, use a checklist in it and then use use commercial systems from reputable vendors that has some of these checks and balances built into the so that you don’t make these

mistakes because these mistakes will get you sued, they will get you fired and they will make society a worse place. If your model gets out in the wild. You can tell I feel pretty strongly about this.

Great question Tammy.

Be very, very be aware of that company. Wow. And for everyone else,

as you’re deploying machine learning as you’re testing it out as you’re putting it in production as you’re supervising it.

Make sure that somebody has done their homework and has thought through things like bias because you can ruin your company, your relationships with your customers. And as we see with some companies like Facebook, you can ruin society. If you are not thinking about what your AI does. As always, please leave your comments in the comments box below and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon.

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April 1, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Rising Stars of Marketing
Ashley and the LinkedIn team ask, “Who is one rising star in marketing that you’d like to recognize and why?”

Without pause, I’d recognize my CEO and business partner, Katie Robbert. Here’s why: every chef needs a restaurant manager. In data science and machine learning within the marketing realm, I build lots of tools to accomplish these things. But all the tools and technology don’t matter without the other two legs of the stool: people and process. To be fully effective as marketers and as data scientists, we need effective strategies for people, process, and platforms. Watch this video to learn what to look for in your own people and process experts.

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In today’s episode, Ashley asks, who was one rising star in marketing that you’d like to recognize and why. without pause, I would recognize my CEO and business partner Katie Robbert. And here’s why.

Every chef needs a restaurant manager every

every player in the orchestra needs a conductor. in data science and machine learning. Within the marketing realm,

I build lots of stuff, I build lots of tools, I use all sorts of things from open source tools like our studio, to commercial tools, like IBM Watson studio,

and can do some pretty interesting stuff. But that’s only one third of what it takes to make data science and machine learning impactful for marketers. Remember this, it’s a three legged stool, its people process and platform, you need all three in balance, in order to make machine learning beneficial to accompany building cool stuff is great, you need it.

But if there’s no practical application, you just doing stuff to do stuff, it doesn’t provide an ROI. Or if it does, it’s because you got lucky because it wasn’t a strategy behind

two of the areas where I’m personally not as strong management of people I’m terrible at. and rigorous discipline and process in terms of,

instead of doing something, building a system around

a thing, so that it can scale it can grow can be impactful.

And so to be to bring the most value to trust insights, customers, to our audience, to our friends, you need to have the people process and platform all lined up. And because I have deficits in those areas, that’s where someone like Katie helps, helps me be able to be effective.

as marketers, marketers, and not the most systematic people, marketers, and not the most disciplined in terms of that very left brain linear process oriented approach. But when you have the effective project manager, when you have effective corporate strategy and business strategy, when you align your business strategy with your technology capabilities, you can, you can do some pretty amazing things. And so her role in our company is to lead the company to lead that strategy to lead the people, and to help establish the processes that we need in order to grow.

And that’s something that we all learn from at the company. But then we share

externally.

Every Friday, there’s usually a blog post from her from our partner and head of business development, john wall. And we have distinct documented processes for how we even market the company itself. What are the what are the recipes inside that we adhere to, in order to maximize the impact we have with what’s really a three person team plus a whole bunch of machines.

Katie is also an accomplished public speaker, she’s spoken at multiple events, including selling out her room, twice over at inbound 2018 on the topic of predictive analytics, but not the technology.

Instead, she focuses on how, what’s the process for it? What are the important things you need to know to make use of it? What are some examples that are practical?

And again, this is because my focus is how do I make the thing how to build a thing? How do I how do I

make the thing cooler?

But not how do I deploy the thing in a way that’s as meaningful as possible to customers. So it the original version of Predictive Analytics code that we use, spit out a very unhelpful line chart. And that was it as all you got. But when you take somebody like Katie, who has that experience of thinking from the customer’s point of view, and thinking through how could somebody uses How could somebody misinterpret this? How could somebody not find value in this, and then you build that into the product, it becomes much more useful. Instead of a chart looks like somebody vomited, you know, multicolored spaghetti all over it, you end up with tables and calendars and planners that anybody anybody could pick up and go, Okay, I know what I’m supposed to do. Now, over the next four weeks, these are my tasks that I need to accomplish using predictive analytics, bringing it to life.

The same is true. We were driving back yesterday

from the helo conference in New Jersey, and talking through

how do we use machine learning clustering techniques

to make search engine optimization more valuable, instead of, hey, here’s just a bunch of data, which is what a lot of SEO tools give you and it’s fine. That’s that’s bad as an okay thing for them to do, because you want that data? How do we use machine learning techniques to make it more orderly, to make it more insightful, to make it more digestible for people? And so when I talk about someone being a rising star marketing, to me, that implies that they are bringing something to the marketing discipline that isn’t there yet or isn’t widespread, that is valuable. And that benefits marketers?

Again, when I look at my background, I’m a tech knowledge, just

the stuff that I create,

as it is, is not inherently valuable to marketers, the outputs are, but the stuff itself isn’t. And so someone like Katie is an essential part of what we needed to have, as an industry to take the output of anything, and think it through how do we make this valuable to us? How do we use this to increase our impact, to increase our results, to demonstrate the value that we provide as marketers, to our companies, and to our industry. So that’s, in a nutshell, who I would recognize as a rising star and marketing. You can reach Katie at K to bear on most social channels, and of course, at the trust insights, website, trust and size.ai. And I believe, I think her websites got stuff on it, Katie Rivera calm. But more than anything goes to your speak, go see your speak, go see, take a webinar with her. We’re going to some interesting news, new virtual options available soon. Follow on social get to know her because she can help you understand the roles of people in process within marketing technology, which again, is something that marketing technologists and the martech space are really bad at

we build all these cool

tools, we create all these this, you know great marketing collateral, and we don’t do a great job of answering but so what why do I need this? What is the value of this?

How do I explain this to my boss, and you need somebody in your own company like Katie who can be that.

That truth teller

that

that skeptic

who can constructively criticize your efforts, and make your products, your services and your marketing better, maybe don’t have somebody like that, your marketing will not be as good. You are marketing technology, for sure will not be as good. And if you are making the move into data science and machine learning is an absolutely essential role. So who is that person in your company? If you don’t have that person, you probably need to hire that person to help oversee and guide and align your martech and data science and machine learning strategies to the business to what the business needs most. So great question actually, and the LinkedIn team. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. One help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trust insights.ai

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March 29, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: What’s Not On My LinkedIn Profile?
Ashley and the LinkedIn team ask, “What’s one thing not on your LinkedIn profile that you want people to know about you?”

Of course, there are tons of non-work related things like my love of cooking, my inability to sing, etc. but the reason for that is optimizing for the way LinkedIn works. In a series of interviews on the This Week in Machine Learning podcast, LinkedIn’s data scientists have explained in great technical detail how LinkedIn decides what you see. Watch the video for a review of those key concepts.

Check out my guest appearance on the Punching Out Podcast here.

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In today’s episode, Ashley asks, what one thing not on your LinkedIn profile that you want people

to know about you? That’s an interesting question.

There isn’t much that I isn’t already on there of them. The random hobbies, like for example cooking, or that I’m a terrible singer, or they practice the martial arts, which by the way, if you want to, like hear a really in depth look at some of these things. I did a lot of this in touch about a lot of this in Episode One of the punching out podcast, which you can find on iTunes, Google podcasts, carrier shake, or grown. And Katie, Roberto, or did a whole season of interviews with people in the marketing space about everything except marketing. So it’s like all the hobbies, the music, the stuff that people like the the the after work kinds of like you were just sitting around having dinner with somebody, these are the kinds of things you’d find out. So check that out.

But I think the question is, to make a fun question, not fun, which is something I do,

the way LinkedIn algorithm works is there are it takes a look at who your connections are, who their connections, our first, second or third degree connections. And the text that is on your profile, the text is on their profiles, and so on and so forth, in terms of those into what are called vectors, mathematical representations of those profiles. And then there is a the content that you post when you share posts and updates on LinkedIn. All of this goes into a type of networking database called a graph

network. I was listening to a bunch of episodes of this week and machine learning and AI, which is another great podcast, if you want to get you like super, super technical.

This is the show to listen to.

It is for the folks who are building machine learning. But one of the things that was interesting is that they’ve now had, I think, three or four different people from LinkedIn on the show, who explain in great detail how different aspects of the LinkedIn algorithm work. LinkedIn is the only social network that has gone on records. And here’s how our technology works in the back

end, which has been a terrific for

technical marketers like me to say, oh, okay, so here’s the things I need to do in order to make my LinkedIn profile more find able

to understand the algorithm and in more depth to

understand how people are seeing my content.

And so that vector ization of your text that you create that you share, is used in matching algorithms, zoos and prediction algorithms for LinkedIn to say, Who should I show your content to

write so I put up a blog post on LinkedIn or a link or if video or something, and it’s

about my

cooking hobby, for example.

LinkedIn will look at my network. And we’ll look at the people within my network. And it will show that content selectively to people for where there is a a topical match of sorts of we’re predicts, hey,

Katie would is also interested in cooking and she might

find benefit

from this post on LinkedIn.

Whereas Chris,

has known as never expressed any interest in and his network has never expressing interest in cooking. So let’s not show this content to Chris.

And Tom only post look like cooking. So maybe we’ll show Tom one test post, see what happens, see if he engages with it.

In one in another episode, Romero’s Alice, who is the head

of LinkedIn AI group said that they do what’s called

the technical term is multi parameter optimization. And that means that LinkedIn is optimizing for many different objectives,

one of which is complaints.

Dr. rozas was saying, this is a metric that we that they look at, to make sure that they’re delivering a high quality experience, which is really cool, which also means that if the algorithm shows something that is so out of touch, so attitude, with what somebody wants, they’ve done actually complain about the second, why am I seeing this kind this post, or, or block this person, those are forms of complaints.

And so

when it comes to what you put on LinkedIn,

when it comes to what you want to share, what you want to talk about what you what other content, other people’s content, you share who you’d had all that matters, because all that is part of the graph algorithm. It’s part of getting your content in front of as many relevant people as possible.

So

give real thought to what’s in your LinkedIn profile. What do you want to be found for? That means not just one line job descriptions, but having keywords and phrases and ideas in your LinkedIn profile in your job descriptions,

in your testimonials, your recommendations,

what you are endorsed for so those endorsements that that seemed a little bit trivial, our topic indicators. We go on

a whole the time about hierarchies and ontology and stuff within those topic indicates the endorsements do matter,

for helping your content gets shown to other people. Because if somebody says, Chris Patten knows about machine learning, and AI

post about machine learning, and somebody else has an interest in machine learning,

there’s a much more much clear predictive predictive

strength to that of they hated I’m going to show Chris’s machine learning post

of what she’s an authority about machine learning to somebody who’s interested in machine learning who’s posted about it, but may not have it in their profile, and see if they engage with it.

When you look at the stuff you can add your LinkedIn profile like your testimonials, the gear blog posts, would you publish on the publishing platform, when you post up a new post,

all of that is relevant. All of that

helps the graph network side how to make connections and predictions about connections in the people you may know section is a whole

set of algorithms about

how is your profile featured and people you may know

it’s not a monolithic algorithm It is based on all these different factors.

So

yes, some of my hobbies and things and not in my, my LinkedIn profile. Why? Because I’m trying to optimize it

to work with LinkedIn algorithm as best as possible.

Obviously, staying within the terms of service

being focused on because it is a professional

network, the things

that other people are looking for.

Think of it is all this content that we share as like SEO for LinkedIn annoyed because LinkedIn is a search engine for people

instead of what you’re looking for who

so a very long Not at all, what was intended answer to the question that actually had on what’s not on my LinkedIn profile, I do a lot of a lot of cooking. Enjoy the science of cooking.

Enjoy the

science of making social networks work for us and hope some of these tips help you make your LinkedIn profile and the activities you do perform on LinkedIn

more valuable.

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March 28, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Defining Career Moments
Ashley and the LinkedIn team ask, “What is one of the most defining moments in your career and how has it shaped you as a marketer?”

What a fun question. August 24, 2011 is a date that sticks out in my mind as a day that set me on my path today. Watch the video to find out what was so consequential about that date. This is a series of 3 questions; stay tuned for parts 2 and 3.

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in today’s episode ashley and the team at linkedin ask what is one of the most defining moments in your career and how has it shaped you as a marketer

if i had to look back over the length of my career and the direction it has been heading over the last 10 years probably one of the defining moments was august 24 2011

and this is going to get super nerdy but the reason that date sticks out is that is the day that google analytics released assisted conversions and multi channel funnels which is a really big deal in analytics up until that point for the first really 15 years of the web we were all as marketers using last touch attribution what was the last thing somebody did that and we gave credit to that channel that campaign that tactic for generating the business we had no way really of going

back in time and seeing what’s what else someone did in order to convert in order to, to do something of a meaningful business impact. On that day, Google pushed out its multi channel funnels, which allows you to track not only the last thing somebody did, but all the things somebody did leading up to that conversion, which significantly changed the language that we use as marketers about how people convert about what drives conversion, and what and how much credit should be given to any one given campaign or tactic or method for generating business. This really opening the door in a lot of ways for modern social media marketing, because up until that point, you know, Twitter got released to the public in 2007, Facebook in 2005. And without that assisted conversion tracking.

We know for most businesses, social media is not the last thing somebody does before

They make a purchase, right? Because especially if it’s a complex big purchase, not a whole lot of Gulfstream airplanes, or quarter million dollar SaaS software implementations are bought from a tweet.

Not a ton of vehicles or real estate or bought from a LinkedIn post.

But these channels,

and social in general are contributing factors to those conversions by helping us build awareness by helping us build trust by helping us build credibility.

And so when Google rolled out assisted conversions, because suddenly say, hey, this series of posts I’ve put on LinkedIn really matter because they are part of the path to conversion even, they’re not the last thing that somebody does. And this set the foundation for in my career, what was going to be a major focus from there on out a heavy focus on analytics, a heavy focus on data science, the technology that gives us a

assisted conversions also gives us path analysis not only what channels were part of a conversion but then how do those channels interact which set the stage really for a couple years later for my first forays into machine learning in 2013 and today and as we’re recording this it’s early 2019 machine learning and artificial intelligence really are now my my specialties within the realm of marketing and marketing data but without that first

glimpse of light about that there’s more to converge and then the last thing somebody did it would be i would i would say it would be difficult for me to be where i am today because that’s such a simplistic answer even though it’s mostly wrong it’s just such a simplistic answer that none of us i think would have put a whole lot of time or effort into thinking more deeply about all the ways that somebody can convert all the the steps within the customer journey even modern digital customer journey

mapping the ability for us to, to use data to map out the customer journey in a in a data driven a factual way wouldn’t be possible without technology like assisted conversions and multi channel funnels, it simply would be out of our reach, we will not have that information. Today, we now have tools like Markov chain modeling and gradient boosting and all these fancy machine learning tools that can take that data and exponentially increases value by seeing exactly what works best. This is especially true when we don’t have complete data, but we have enough data to be able to at least begin and fairing mathematical relationships between data points, for example. It is somewhat difficult

phrase, it’s extremely difficult to get any kind of competitive data out of LinkedIn or out of personal profiles, but you can see the traffic that comes from LinkedIn to your website.

using multi channel funnels using machine learning using ai you can infer the value of that traffic and really get a sense of this is this is something that i should be doing more of or something i should be doing less of so that moment august 24 2011

rollout of multi channel funnels really was a defining moment in my career so much so i referenced it in keynote talks that i do when i’m talking about attribution analysis it was a defining moment for me and for the industry overall and it’s one that i’m i’m still surprised when i talked to some marketers and not using even the basic built in feature in google analytics much less what you can do with that data but at least it’s there at least it’s available to all of us and and for those folks who have embraced it hopefully it has helped your career grow as well as always please leave comments in the comment box below this is actually going to be a three part series of questions that ashley and the linkedin team have about career defining things so

Stay tuned for parts two and three coming soon.

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March 27, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Measurement Tips for Agencies
Max asks, “What are some tips for agencies and freelancers for better business results in 2019?”

Agencies and freelancers are notorious for skimping on measurement. In this video, I offer some guidelines about how much to spend on measurement and how to create a measurement plan.

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In today’s episode, Max asks,

What are your biggest tips for freelancers and agencies for getting the best results for your customers in 2019?

Okay.

I’m awful. The, the number

one thing I see people not doing enough of, unsurprisingly, is measuring stuff. People have a tendency to simply spend all their time doing, and not investing enough time and enough resources. And measuring to figure out this is what really matters. The rule of thumb I’ve told people in the past and still holds true today is for every dollar you spend on marketing

plan to spend 25 cents on

the measurement and evaluation of it. If you’re going to spend

100 grand on marketing plan to spend 25, on the measurement of it to see what work will always cost that much. Not necessarily. But you need to be able to have the resources available so that if you have to bring in expertise, to get you the answers that you need, or you need to buy the

tracking software,

with the equipment or whatever up front, you’ve budgeted for it.

I remember I was working at doing some work at one point for a company that did, they were a retail store. And they were really, super insists on wanting to know how well was there out how effective was in marketing at bringing in foot traffic.

And they had all this, these plans like the foot traffic is going to do this and this. But

they didn’t have a single foot traffic counter in the in the store.

So

they set a measurement object, which is Atlanta was exactly you’re supposed to do. But then it didn’t have any way of actually tracking us they had to go and buy

the system. But the little cameras and

stuff that that track where people move around in the story, and it was very, very expensive, it was much more expensive than expected it to be had they budgeted

the 25% in order to get the equipment installed, they would have been okay.

The other thing people do wrong is that measurement

comes for them at the end of the process. At the end of the the marketing process in the planning process.

Your measurement strategy has to come up front because you need to know what you’re going to measure before you run the campaign.

To the example the the retail store, they wanted to measure foot traffic,

but they didn’t have any means of doing so. And had they

solve that problem first.

They would have been okay. One thing I see again, marketers do a ton of time is wrong is

they will try to retro actively measure something, but they didn’t have the tracking in place to measure it from something as simple as you know, a specific goal in Google Analytics to something as complex as

a certain type of ROI where they didn’t track the investment so they can’t do the return on their investment.

If you don’t

have that measurement strategy of fun if you don’t have the ability

to put build the infrastructure for measurement you in in many cases,

you cannot turn back time. Despite what shares songs as you cannot go back in time. And retro actively measure something you are not set up to measure in the first place. So

if you want to succeed in 2019, you need a measurement plan. You need a measurement goal. And you need to do it

as part of your overall plan.

I need to you need to invest heavily in the measurement. So that you know whether you’ve gotten to a goal or not.

There isn’t much more you can do that will be more impactful in your marketing. Because if you can’t measure it, your marketing can’t demonstrate his impact. You can say qualitatively

Oh, yeah, people love what we had to say or people loved our trade show booth where people loved our i think but if you can’t quantify it,

you can’t

accurately demonstrate it

impacts that’s that would be my my

biggest tip for for agencies and freelancers.

It’s especially important because I used to work in an agency and

many measurement was always an afterthought.

Measurement was something that

people never put first, because for two reasons one was expensive.

And too, if you’re not

someone for whom measurement and analytics and quantitative work comes naturally,

it can be intimidating.

Oh, there’s there’s one more factor.

One of the reasons why some people in some agencies, I’m being very specific. It’s it’s not everyone, it’s just some people.

But some people don’t like measurement. Because

once you measure something, you can evaluate its effectiveness. And there are some people in the agency world who are ineffective. They don’t get results. But they’ve managed to sort of stay under the radar. Because no one else is measuring. The only form of measurement they have is qualitative, like,

Oh, yeah, Joe, such a great guy.

Joe’s ROI is negative, but people like Joe, and so job may be able to get away with not delivering results. Once you implement a system of measurement,

it becomes much harder to justify

your

investment in Joe as is and either and Joe asked to up level his skills, or your agency, or the freelancers you work with. may need to to change strategies about who they choose to work with. So that’s the other reason why measurement sometimes doesn’t rise to the top of the priority list. Again, not everyone, not everyone, just some people at some places

would prefer that you not shine the light of day, and then the light of measurement on on what they’re doing. So

great question max.

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March 26, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Extracting Social Content Data
Ateeq asks, “I just want to be able to get some conversations around Google Analytics from Facebook and Twitter programmatically. Is there a tool that does that or should I aim to write some code in Python?”

You’re looking for social media monitoring. In this case, your best bets are tools like Talkwalker and Brand24. Unless, of course, you want content about it, in which case you want Buzzsumo. In this video, watch a quick tour of these three software packages as well as one of my favorite methods of analyzing this kind of data.

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In today’s episode teak asks, I just want to be able to get some conversations around Google Analytics from Facebook and Twitter programmatically. Is there a tool that does that? Or should I aim to write some code in Python? Good question. You are looking for social media monitoring? Well, you’re looking for one of two things, you’re looking for social media monitoring, or you’re looking for content, visibility. So for social media monitoring, to have the tools that would recommend for this particular task would be either talk walker or brand 24. So let’s switch screens here.

This is talk Walker talk Walker allows you to put in search terms at so I’ve got Google Analytics with and without the space here. And then for your specific request about things like Facebook and Twitter. You can isolate those channels and

Provide reporting,

for getting data out of these systems programmatically your, if you if you mean, you want to be able to take it out on a regular basis, you’re going to want to get access to the API’s for these companies. So here we have, we have Twitter and Facebook feeds. If when you look here, we’ve got, you can embed on another platform where you can use an RSS feed for the data. You can also use JSON feed as well.

I typically will do CSV exports because I don’t have to do these on an ongoing basis usually have to do one shots. The other thing is you’ll you will notice there’s a substantial amount of non English here so you can use whatever the language of your choice is, if you want to use Arabic or Japanese or Russian or whatever, I forgot how many languages boarded, I can look.

A whole bunch. So that’s that would be an option within talk Walker.

extract the data. The same is true for brand 24. Go in, it’s set up your Google Analytics search, you can take a look at the mentions.

And then you can do data, different types of data exports. And you can also set it up so that you can integrate with things like slack as well. And you can see there’s Facebook, there’s Twitter, you will get different numbers from the various different platforms and things. So you’ll want to make sure that depending on the type of data, you’re using, different social platforms are better at different things. So for example, let’s look at just the raw numbers here. I’m going to go with media types.

So for Google Analytics in the last 30 days, talk Walker is pulling out 41,000 mentions of which the lion’s share are going to be

Twitter and then at one Facebook mentions on the other hand on brand 24 when you look at that, they have pull 1000 Facebook messages

for Google Analytics, only 5000 tweets so. So again, it depends on on which network you want different tools are going to be better at different networks. And if you want, both gonna have to, to subscribe to both. So that’s one set of options, the second set of options. The second option would be if you want to understand how content is is performing on these networks. So in this case, this is a tool called buzz Sumo put in Google Analytics.

And now instead of what social posts on Twitter or on Facebook, our most popular This is instead of looking at which,

which pieces of content which like web articles or blog articles were most shared on those different networks. So those are some options as well to look at

if you want specific content to see what gets shared the most.

Now, the question is what do you want to do with the information if you want to just get us

what people are talking about maybe industry professionals of some kind, to understand what you should be saying, in conversation on those networks, you want to use social media monitoring hands down, to be able to talk the talk in my language that people are using. So I switched over here at the themes, for example.

very broadly, I get a sense of everything that’s associated generally with this term, right? It’s a marketing tool. It’s calculations. It’s analytics. And then there are various different handles. Again, the different languages. However, if I want to use the data, to decide what content to create, if I’m if I’m looking for a longer form stuff,

I will probably want to use an export the data out of buzz Sumo because you can get the URLs for each of these articles, and then build some text mining, some text analytics on

What the top performing articles are. Typically when I do this, I will do a 9010 split. So I’ll take the top 10% of articles and analyze the major themes in an in that, and I’ll take the remaining remainder of the corpus. And I’ll analyze the themes that and what we’re looking for outliers, what are the things that are unique to the top 10% that are not in the bottom 90% if there’s a lot of content, in this case, there’s 943 articles. So you might want to do 2575. But that’s how you get the data from one of these three tools either talk Walker, brand 24, or buzz Sumo. And what you do with the data is exactly the same and in all those cases, you will take an export of it, and then you will start slicing and dicing it based on the top performing content and what it what it has in common. And then everything else. So interesting question, fun question. There’s a lot to be done in an analytics

you will have to engineer a lot of the features yourself so by that i mean these tools provide really nice rich exports but at the same time they can only do so much with the compute power that they have while maintaining responsiveness and speed of applications you will need to do heavy engineering of your own if you want to use the data for machine learning for advanced analytics for data science

these none of these software packages do that in a way that allows you to tune it and in a way that allows you to extract exactly the insights you want you’ll have to do the engineering itself so great question if you have follow up questions please leave them in the comments and of course please subscribe to the youtube channel and the newsletter i’ll talk to you soon one help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems this is trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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March 25, 2019
Social Media Marketing World 2019 Day 2 Recap
Yesterday marked day 2 of Social Media Marketing World 2019. What were some of the key takeaways? Facebook gets rightfully stomped on, video rules, content shock continues, influencers don’t comply, and much more. Watch the video for full details.

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In today’s episode recapping day two of Social Media Marketing World 2019 it was a crazy day in terms of a lot of the information shared by the various folks who are speaking. So to kick off the day Michael Stelzer, the founder talked about, he did a really nice recap of the history of Facebook in the last five years, and how it went from a marketer’s, best friend and this massively open platform to unify the world to increasing increasingly smaller and smaller and less open and less open until now. It is basically a completely self serving machine outside content doesn’t do well. marketing content doesn’t do well. It is only for what is AI optimizes for and for what people pay for, which I thought was a nice retrospective. He did have a

Nice little takeaway in terms of a sort of a meme for your brain about marketing, and specifically about marketing on social networks, and that was that, instead of making a smaller impact on a bigger audience make a bigger impact on a smaller audience that I thought was helpful for folks to hear that they should stop trying to be a Kardashian right and focus on the audience they have and growing that not as quickly but trying to create much more loyalty. So people remember to go seek you out. He also was showing you the difference between Facebook’s video viewers and YouTube video viewers YouTube’s video of yours least in in his data, were much much more loyal, helpful.

50% getting to the end of in many cases, five to seven minute videos, whereas he shows what he

example where he had 20,000 on average 20,000 viewers start a video on Facebook, same five to seven minute video. And by the time they got to the end, the completion rate was was 19 out of those 20,000 so 19 people, so it was it was useful. Nick Nevin, who is a YouTube practitioner I felt like a quarter million subscribers really went over some useful stuff. Number one he advocated that we all and I will be doing this myself take the YouTube Creator Academy course just to learn the ins and outs in the same way that I advocate for Google’s analytics Academy would seem that we all have to get our homework done and go to YouTube Creator Academy so i’ll be doing that. Now. completely free of course, just Google for YouTube Creator Academy.

He said the when you’re customizing your channel

in a do it in

Lot of time and I was actually actually had the trust insights YouTube channel up while he was talking just starting to make the changes right in the session.

The new and returning user videos, there’s a section in the, in your channel where you can put a video to show you that new user or returning users and his advice was that is where you put your goal generating video videos. If you want people sign up for an email list, you want people to buy something you want people to do whatever, that’s the place that it goes. He said that’s the most valuable real estate on your YouTube channel from a video perspective, so make sure that that is where you invest some some time and that’s involved.

He had a really good point on

your videos when you run analytics on the on your videos, instead of looking at what gets views because use can be very transitory.

Analyze which videos give you new subscribers if you go to YouTube Analytics you go into the the video

Section, you have to add a column for subscribers. But then if you sort your videos by that you can see these are the videos that generate real loyalty because people are saying yes, I’m raising my hand I want to watch more from you. So that was very helpful.

Ursula random did a fantastic session on influencer program. She runs the sap influencer program. And one of the interesting things there was that they do their influencer marketing, planning and budgeting on an annual basis. So instead of having it be one offs, like oh, we need an influencer for this event for this event, they actually try out the whole year and assign influencers based on their their editorial calendar, which is a smart way of doing it. And her co presenter Megan Connelly,

talk very I thought when I don’t think spent enough time on

regulatory requirements for influencers are much deeper than most marketers think.

The example they were giving because SAP is a German company is GDPR GDPR. The general data protection regulation, the EU directive about piracy

extends through your supply chain. So as part of your compliance, if you’re working with an influencer, they must also be GDP are compliant. If you want to make sure that you’re you’ve mitigated your risk, your influences have to be as compliant as you are, they have to adhere to your policies and vice versa,

in terms of data sharing influencers may not necessarily be able to do as much data sharing, or have to go take additional steps to make sure that they are passing along audience to you in a way that is compliant, which was I think, an important part of that. Again, they had to they had to do a whole

the whole session and but I think that could probably be its own session on on regulatory requirements for influencers because it is if you do

Wrong, a very serious risk.

The fine folks at buzz Sumo through a lunch yesterday and there’s a lot of

talking about just content in general. But one step that I thought was really very aligned with this idea of Mark Schaefer, his idea of content shock was that in 2018, we, the planet cranked out 912 million blog posts. Now we think about it. That’s a lot.

Last year trust insights did analysis of Google news stories, and we cranked out as a civilization like 93 million news story. So the fact that we basically did 10 X, the number of blog posts mean, it’s really just swimming in, in content. And it’s about as a prize that as as more marketers are creating more stuff. It’s getting that much harder to get eyeballs on things. And finally, I did my talk which you’ll be able to

You want to see the slides moment you can go to where can I get the slides calm right now. And the video and stuff will be up. I think I kind of plane ride today’s I’m sure I can get video at least edited on the plane ride today, back to back to Boston. But one of the things we did after the talks was I did a dinner with talk Walker. And

we had we did like a 45 minute presentation on using AI and data to make better social media marketing. And one of the key takeaways from that was that search, your search marketing and your social media marketing must work together, they must share data. If you don’t do this, what will happen is you’ll be essentially spending money twice because they can use a lot of the same data they can use. When you look at social trends can pull that data out, feed it to your search keyword and regenerate new keyword lists or enhance your keyword lists and then

From that pass that data back to social media about when things will be trending. So there’s a lot of value that you can extract when you put those departments together. Ideally, all of your digital marketing team should be collaborating together. But search and social in particular

are really really important to bond together to be sharing data frequently and at at volume. So that was day two of Social Media Marketing World today I’m going to catch about half of the show because I got to fly back early afternoon flight but

lots of good stuff to work on and and things to do as next steps. In terms of the courses we can take an additional training. As always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel.

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March 22, 2019
Social Media Marketing World 2019 Day 1 Recap
Yesterday marked day 1 of Social Media Marketing World 2019. What were some of the key takeaways? Content marketing strategies from Robert Rose of Content Marketing Institute, a bit of AI, do handles matter on Instagram, and more. Watch the video for full details.

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in today’s episode we recap everything that happened yesterday at day one of 2019 social media marketing world it was the all access workshops and stuff day

a few takeaways i thought were really useful one robert rose from cmi content marketing institute did a fantastic job of outlining different content marketing strategies and three things that really stood out for me this as of mental takeaways that you can just keep in your mind if you’re if you’re trying to determine what kind of content strategy to go after he said you can with your content solve a small problem for big audience or solve a big problem for a small audience by being very specific and the problem that you solve

You can either appeal to a large group of people or you can drive tremendous loyalty from a small group of people. And he gave a bunch of examples of this, but I thought that was just a really insightful way of of

communicating in a very simple matter how to build your content. So that was really useful. He also outlines two case studies of companies that had identified non traditional competitors when it comes to content market.

He said for Netflix, when Netflix looks at

its competition and getting more eyeballs and getting more views and getting people to remain engaged with the service. They don’t view

Hulu or YouTube board or,

you know, network television as a competition. And he said, they view the number one biggest company

editor for getting more views as sleep

because you know that that occupies honestly the the lion’s share of most people’s day. So what can they do to claim more time? Which is interesting, slightly scary because sleep is really important. But I thought it was a very interesting point.

He said when you look at the way Airbnb does its content marketing, Airbnb did market research and found that they were not in competition with hotels of the world. What they were in competition with was people choosing not to go anywhere, people who weren’t traveling. And so their content marketing strategy pivoted to

focus on being like a travel magazine of sorts of getting people to convince the people yet you actually should go on a vacation you should go on a trip in order to drive you

usage and adoption of their products. So those are some really clever

and interesting ideas. I attended a session as well on AI for marketers, given by somebody who runs an ad agency. And it was an odd mash up of

some of the basics of AI. But then the speaker name eludes me focused largely on just using Google AdWords and what things do and don’t work within Google AdWords, which was good.

But it wasn’t really he he could have done and he probably has done the AdWords portion of that talking not needed the AI part because I don’t know that it added any value. A couple things that were cool takeaways. The true view for actions which is allows you to convert to only pay when someone converts was interesting because it does put a nice end cap. Call to Action on your videos and

A lot of the new call cost per action stuff within AdWords of getting people only paying when you get a lead or a sale, as opposed to paying per click or per day or per impression, which in this day and age when Facebook is, you know, trying to get in my market share in advertising. And a lot of people having issues with the way Facebook does its pricing. I’d be an interesting advantage for Google. And then have some fun Hallway Conversations as well. We talked I was talking to Melanie Desi all about the use of data when, when and where and how to get more data for projects that you’re working on. And fundamentally, it comes down to sort of the the 60 framework for for data, one of which is comprehensive, what are the questions you’re trying to answer? And once you know that you can go out and find data that will inform or

Deep in or broaden the points that you’re trying to make. And if you’re trying to do things like

explain to people how to be creative, for example, there is a tremendous amount more data on creativity on the ways people measure creativity and things that would probably be useful.

Jay Baer and I were sitting down in the speaker’s room, and we were talking about

people who put like, like, tag 30 people per post on

Instagram or Twitter. And so we used the data set that trust insights used for counting hash tag with a hash tags mattered and repurpose that to count the number of handled tags in posts to see does that matter? Does does that tactic work for driving engagement? And the answer is no, not really. What drives engagement is

More than anything of courses is the content itself. And thanks, but in terms of a tactic to get people to pay attention to you, it’s not great, at least from the data set that we’re working on, which is about 4 million posts, on on Instagram and on Twitter. So some useful takeaways there. No need to spend a whole lot of time on hashtags. Someone, gosh, I forgot who was talking to. But someone wanted us wanted me to talk a bit about that study that we did on the first insights website about why hashtags don’t lead to more growth. And the short answer is

when people search on Instagram, for example, they don’t actually search for the hashtag to search for the word right, you don’t search for hashtag coffee to search for coffee. So if your posts have naturally has those terms in any way, you’ll get the eyeballs regardless of whether you use the hashtag, which is a really

Pretty basic observation. So today, a whole bunch of sessions to go to we’ll have some more interesting takeaways and things to share. But as always, please subscribe to the YouTube channel newsletter and talk to you soon.

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March 21, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Tools for Storing Valuable Information?
Alessandra asks, “How do you keep/store/index all the information you read, and I am sure you read A LOT, that might be useful for future presentations/consulting/business development activities?”

Terrific question – it depends on what the information is.
- Photos: Google Photos. The AI is unbeatable.
- Notes: Evernote.
- Short ideas: Apple Reminders.
- Mind maps: Mindnode maps of major concepts.
- Frameworks: Powerpoint
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In today’s episode, Alessandra asks, How do you keep store index all the information to read, and I’m sure you read a lot that might be useful for future presentations, consulting business development activities? terrific question.

It depends on what the information is.

So as you pointed out, there’s a lot of different information out there, there’s a lot of different types.

So I personally use different tools for different types of information, there are some people who are really, really intent on using one place to store everything.

And that’s fine, if you have the tools to do that.

And you got the space to do that.

I and I would say, it’s also important to think about what what is comfortable for you.

So for a number of years, I I am a bunch of other folks had to sort of use Microsoft one note, because it was part of office 365, when the company was working at at the time, that was the thing and I couldn’t get into it.

Even though people talked about how good it was, I just could not get into one note, and so never, never really made that work.

So it depends on what you you personally feel comfortable with.

Now, for for images, any kind of image, photos, screenshots and stuff, I use Google Photos, it has the best AI hands down for being able to automatically tag and catalog your images and then retrieve them later.

So if you like French restaurant, you type into the search box.

And it finds everything that it thinks is a French restaurant.

And more often than not, it’s it’s pretty good.

So what I think I have something close like 400,000 photos in there.

Obviously, I’m not going to spend the time to autumn to tag and categorize that many photos.

But if I can do that, if I can have an AI do that, absolutely going to do that for notes themselves.

Like right down ideas.

There’s two places for that for short form notes.

I use apples reminders.

And the reason I use apples reminders is that I can write down notes quickly using Siri, I could just, you know, hey, set a reminder about hierarchical ontology and SEO.

And it’s good enough that store that little idea until later.

For longer form stuff like writing things like what things I want to write down, I will use Evernote and store those things there.

Or, you know, snippets of code, I store ton of code in Evernote, just a little little snaps and things read your regular expressions and such for links, like things on the web, I use pocket pocket because it again stores it into one place.

And pockets API allows me to then get data out of pocket and bring it to somewhere else, which is a key ingredient for me for being able to curate content and reshare it in an efficient manner.

four major concepts that I haven’t fully baked I store I built in store those in a mind mapping software, I use my node for the Mac.

And this is where I either got an idea that I’m trying to explore.

Or I need to be able to move things around inside of an idea.

So like, I’m putting together a new keynote speech moving pieces and things in a way that is much more fluid than cutting and pasting or having a bullet point outline.

I don’t work as well in those environments.

That’s me personally, there are other people who cannot use mind maps, they hate them, and they just can’t find anything.

That’s totally okay.

Right? Everyone does this stuff differently for the baked goods in terms of like, this is a now a framework, this is something that I’m gonna put my company’s logo on, that all goes into PowerPoint I have, and there’s a video in the past, good backups dig it up.

It’s called a golden cookbook.

And it’s the idea of a golden Rolodex, right? This is all the stuff that you created over however many years you’ve been in business that you value, for example, make a marketing framework or social media framework or some kind of diagram that communicates an idea quickly and easily store those in PowerPoint.

So it wasn’t just one one big deck and to let that deck evolve over time, keep it clean, too.

Because if you don’t keep it clean, it gets really unwieldy very, very quickly.

I have a whole section on the consultants in two by two matrix ease and every now and again to go in and go, Oh, this was a, you know, repetitive to the last three agencies that are in here for audio, if it’s speech, it goes in otter otter.

ai Auto transcription of the spoken word essential, absolutely central, nothing better for for that in terms of cost and efficiency and getting and getting good output.

And finally, for video, YouTube, again, auto transcription of videos using the auto closed captioning features.

If you have video that you’ve captured, which is in a language other than the one that you speak, the auto is closed captions can do translation, it does not do it well.

But it can do it enough that if you have a sense of what the person is saying already, it can help you get a little bit more context.

It especially struggles with non Western languages or Western languages from better better outside of like the romance languages, doesn’t do a good job with us.

I occasionally will watch like videos from the Ukraine and it’s Ukrainian to English translation is pretty bad at and partly because Ukrainian, Russian or similar languages and a miss identifies Ukrainian a lot is Russian.

But if you want to be able to watch a video in another language and get some subtitling, YouTube is the only place to do that right now.

So that’s where I store all my stuff.

And that’s again subject to change.

Things happen over time tools change I do, I store a lot of ideas in just plain text files in the markdown format, which is a variant of plain text because plain text never becomes unreadable.

Some document formats over time, like if you go into Microsoft Word, for example, and you click the Save as button and there’s like 15 different kinds of Microsoft Word 97.

Where do thousand word 2010s, that’s too much too risky for me, compared to good old fashioned plain text which a plain text note written in 1993 perfectly reasonable today.

So keep that in mind to think of a long term and common easily shared formats.

But good question.

The better thing keep in mind is having a sort of a mental map of what stuff you’ve done and where you store it or what stuff you’ve read.

So you do need some level of either search or categorization and I think that’s an important piece.

Like I said, Google Photos that search obviously very good Evernote has built in search to it.

The Mac itself has a credible search engine locally gold spotlight, a PowerPoint deck is easily searchable, YouTube is easily searchable, so having search available for your content is is important so you can go back and find things later.

So really good question.

Fun question.

I would love to hear what you use because I’m again always looking to see what people are using for their stuff.

So if you use a tool mentioned that isn’t in this list, please leave it in the comments below.

Or feel free to put it in the analytics for marketers Slack channel because this stuff is fun.

This is like Christmas you get to open new packages all the time and see what they do.

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Thinking Outside the Box: Two Stories
One of management’s longest-standing tropes is the expression, “think outside the box”, a reference to the 9 dots problem. In this problem, a businessperson is given a sheet of paper with nine dots on it, and directed to connect all the dots by drawing four lines, without the pen ever leaving the paper. In order to successfully solve the problem, you must draw outside the perceived boundaries of the box:

Management consulting has taken this literal solution of thinking outside the box and turned it into a cliche. However, the lesson remains relevant – solutions to challenging problems may require thinking outside conventional assumptions.

At a CEO retreat I attended a while back, participants who’d been in business for decades shared stories of thinking outside the box, of finding solutions that were unconventional and atypical, but solved the business problem at hand. These are just two of the stories shared.

Turning Crisis into Opportunity

A manufacturer of a durable good faced a plant closure due to environmental concerns. They had to close the plant and building a new one in a permitted area away from where their current plant was located. The problem was, the local government told them the plant had to be closed in 3 months, and the time to build a new plant was at least 18 months.

How did they solve for such a difficult problem? They couldn’t afford to be out of commission, not generating revenue, nor serving customers for 15 months. They approached all the customers of their product and said, here’s the situation. They laid everything out and then said, “we’re going to give you the opportunity to buy two years of inventory at favorable pricing right now so that you can stock up and not run dry while we rebuild”. Amazingly, almost all of their customers took the deal, which not only kept their business alive, but gave them the capital they needed to build their new plant without taking on significant debt.

Making Multiple Stakeholders Happy

The second story was about how to deal with the inherent competition between using a distributor and selling directly to the consumer, a fairly common problem. Distributors hate competing against direct to consumer sales because in many cases, the manufacturer undercut them on pricing or eat into their margins. Some companies work around this by setting up territories or forcing exclusive agreements, neither of which is the best strategy to increase overall growth.

Goodyear, the tire company, went outside the box and started manufacturing an entirely separate line of tires for their distributors that were not in direct competition with their direct to consumer goods. They were sold by distributors who could market them as Goodyear-branded tires, but with different features and benefits than the direct to consumer product. As a result, Goodyear effectively doubled what it could sell and kept its distributor network happy and profitable.

Listen When The Opportunity Presents Itself

Too often, we fail to pay attention to stories. Technology solves a great many problems, but technology is hardly the only solution to our problems. In the Japanese martial arts, the term sensei means someone who has gone before you and can show you the way.

When you have the opportunity to listen to war stories and tales of campaigns past, pay attention. Take notes. These stories become part of your own marketing and strategic DNA, and you never know when you’ll need them. Learn from the experiences of those who have gone before you, and you may both avoid their mistakes and replicate their successes. The best way to find solutions outside the box is to see who’s already drawn outside of it.

Author’s note: this post was originally published in 2012 and has been updated several times since. The most recent update provided the example of the 9 dots problem.

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March 19, 2019

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