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Jenny asks, “What’s the best resource for 2019 social media strategy development?”

The same as 2018! The overall strategy, the why – use social media to accomplish business goals – doesn’t change. What changes is the what and the how. Watch the video for details about how to build your 2019 social media strategy.

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We begin with clear, measurable business-level goals. This data has to come from a CRM and/or marketing automation software.

Next, gather three sets of social media data – your company’s data, your competitors’ data, and your industry or niche.

Run a statistical analysis of your data and the data from your CRM and marketing automation to determine what social media activities, if any, drive business outcomes. Use statistical techniques like variable importance calculation to do this. ML will be very helpful.

Once you’ve identified the variables that potentially drive performance, compare your performance to your competitors and industry using the same variables if possible, minus the marketing automation and CRM data, which you won’t be able to see.

Identify what works and what doesn’t. Begin qualitative research to answer the “why” for all the “what” questions you ask.

Do more of what works and less of what doesn’t.

If you’re concerned that your industry lags behind, it’s fine to compare to a different industry, but make sure that industry has the same functional buying process.

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In today’s episode, Jenny asks, What are the best resources for

social media strategy development? Well,

so the same as 2018 and 2017 and 2016, the overall strategy of social media the why why you’re doing it doesn’t change. You’re using social media to accomplish business goals, What changes is the what what are you going to do and the how, how you’re going to do it.

The way that we do it at trust insights is with a multi step process based on data. So you begin with clear measurable business goals. What is the business goal that you’re trying to accomplish in a business goal is going to be one of really

six right

On the b2b side, it’s going to be make money, save money, save time, those are those business goals on the b2c side, for the customer, it’s going to be make things better, faster, cheaper, so that the customer is more likely to buy it. So, but for the most part, companies are going to ask social media to to help them make money. Now, this may be expressed in terms like building brand or awareness and things like that, which is fine, but it still has to tie back to a a measurable outcome. And the way you get to that is you take all of your data from your CRM from your era p system, perhaps for your marketing automation software, and you extract that out into in a format that you can analyze. After that you gather your social media data and anything that sits between social media and the system. So chances are your web analytics are going to be in there.

possibly even things like email marketing data, maybe if that’s an integral part of how your company communicates its business proposition to its customers.

Once you have that, you want to gather three sets of social media data, you want to gather your data, you want to gather your competitors data, and you want to gather your industry’s data.

After you have those, that set of data you’re going to want to your data and then all of your down funnel data. So that is web analytics CRM, marketing automation, CRM, etc. And you’re going to run a statistical analysis complex statistical analysis to determine using I recommend the certain machine learning techniques I recommend looking into one called variable importance.

You’re going to run a statistical analysis to say okay, what an of the social media variables drives business outcomes.

Any and you’ve got to be prepared for the answer to be none Do you have to, you have to be

prepared for that potential outcome.

However, once you’ve identified the variables that potentially drive performance, you’re gonna want to compare that performance to your competitors. And then the industry using the same social media variables. If possible, you’re not going to get the marketing automation and CRM data, not legally. So you’ll want to identify your own variables, the things that matter the most, perhaps it’s dates or times or particular types of content or

actions that users taking its comments, for example, on Instagram,

whatever the variable is, you then want to do the competitive competitive analysis with the your competitors and the rest of industry to determine

is somebody else doing a better job with those things? And if so, what is it that they are doing that allows them to to win within your space?

Identify what works and what doesn’t work.

Now, here’s a tricky part which a lot of people get wrong. No amount of data mining is going to completely answer the question of why something works. You have to do qualitative research. You have to do focus groups. You have to do

interviews, maybe do some surveys, something that once you understand why you don’t want to understand what is happening, you can ask the audience Why do they make those choices? Why do you like this brand? And why is this brand was brands, coffee, the one that you go to

that will help you make more sense of the data and inform your strategy

ultimately for every what

variable you have, whether it’s comments, whether it’s likes, whether it’s

follows you want to have a companion why question you’ve asked a sample of the population of

Your population, why they made those choices. And then your strategy is you do more of what works and less of what doesn’t work. Now, one thing that people will say when you’re doing a social media audit is that in particularly will say

my industry lags behind it, or my competitors are lagging behind. I’m concerned that following best practices, it’s totally fine to compare it to a different industry, but the industry that you compare to has to have the same functional buying process. So suppose you work in the car industry, the purchase of a car is a long expensive complex sale, if you were to use social media strategy from like a chewing gum manufacturer. Well,

people are going to react differently to that product and and they will make different purchase decisions. It is a much smaller purchase than a car. And so things like awareness, consideration and evaluation.

compressed

the and the way audiences by is compressed. So you may want to compare the buying of a car to maybe what’s working in the mortgage industry or what’s working in the college industry because again, choosing an education is a big

cumbersome and very expensive purchase. And so the purchase decision, the the purchase deliberation that people will go through it will be very different other other prized expensive possessions because people take a lot of pride in the vehicle. Do they own other other prized possessions that are expensive that people purchase that they would interact with a brand on social media perhaps, you know, certainly some laptops and very high end phones are very expensive and you might be able to get some comparative data about that. But even that the laptop purchase process even if it was several thousand dollars for the best ones is still different than a cars purchase. There’s no title there’s no paperwork

Bring your credit card. And then you’ll marveling at the bill when you get it. So be aware. If you want to do competitive industry look for something that has the same functional buying process so that you are doing apples to apples with how a customer is going to interact with that brand.

So that’s your social media strategy for 2019 or any year it’s the why the what and the how,

where you will run into trouble is

not doing enough with your data or especially when you do that statistical analysis trying to do in Excel trying to do it by hand. There is no time

there’s there’s no convenient easy way of doing that without using some sort of machine learning technology because there’s just too much data you’re going to want to look at, you know, a year to date or or possibly a rolling year

if you’re

brand has five or 10 or 20 social media accounts or is on 15 platforms or you get the idea. That spreadsheet starts getting real big, real fast. And it becomes very difficult to analyze without the assistance of machine learning technology. So know that that is going to be something you’re going to have to have in your arsenal. If you want to use the method, we use it trust insights, you’re going to need to have machine learning on your side to pull that off. But great question. It’s a fun question. And this is the time where you’re when everyone’s starting to do the Hey, what worked, what didn’t work you want to answer those questions and do it with data so that you have the best possible answer for your planning. Thanks for watching. Please leave a comment in the comment and subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. What help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems. This is trusted insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you.

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In this episode, we talk about feature engineering and text, especially social media content. Social media text is often accompanied by very little data, so what can we do to enhance and expand it? That’s feature engineering. Watch the video for details about what kinds of features we can add to social media content to make it more understandable.

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In today’s episode of Fun fact, Friday this week at the trust insights annual summit, which

was held in my dining room, because we’re startup

we were talking about some of the different ways you can do

data tasks like feature engineering because the ability to use topic modeling and text mining and all these different machine learning algorithms is contingent upon what you put into the algorithm.

The more data that you have that’s valid, clean, compatible, chosen, well, the better the algorithm will perform.

When you think about it from that lens, then

the average piece of texts that you feed to

an algorithm, it isn’t very rich,

for example, take a tweet, right? 280 characters at most probably 1015 words

that in and of itself, this not a lot in that it’s just a bunch of words, what are the things that you can extract from that that could help you to better understand it better quantify it and and build better predictive outcomes around

it?

feature engineering is a data science term, which means, well, it’s engineering features. A feature is a dimension if you think about

putting a tweet in the first column of a spreadsheet, right? And you put all your tweets in one column that is one feature the text itself, what other columns could you add to that spreadsheet that would be meaningful, that would describe the data that you could engineer out of that single tweet you can get from Twitter, for example, the author, you can get the date and the time, those are useful meta attributes that could provide some clarity about

the tweet itself, you know, tweets sent in the middle of the night might have a different point of view, different language than a tweet sent in the middle of the day,

if you run automated sentiment analysis, you can start to pull out things like specific emotions that are tagged from

very well known libraries like UD pipe,

you can get this the sentiment numbers plus one minus one and the scale along that line. And you can start you can extract things like character count, word count, number of capital letters, number of emoji in in

in a tweet, for example,

why would you want to do this? Why would you want to add more columns, given that we’re already talking in many cases about all this too much data, and there’s too much they have for us

to analyze? Well, the reason you want to do feature engineering is

you want to be able to start chipping away at the why now, no amount of this very clearly no amount of feature engineering can substitute for good qualitative research, no amount,

but it can help enhance your qualitative research.

It can give you more interesting questions to ask in your qualitative research. And it can eliminate things

that are might be questions you would ask and qualitative research if you can show that there’s no relationship whatsoever.

So for example, time of day, if you do feature engineering, and you have the data and you run it through

an algorithm that says, hey, time of day, it’s not important to the end result that you care about,

then you can eliminate questions in your in your focus group about time of day if there’s

complete lack of statistical significance about time of

day because say, okay, we don’t need to ask that question. It can make your

your qualitative research more focused. The other thing that

feature engineering does is it helps you

start to, to understand

hidden relationships within your data

that you might not think to ask. Otherwise, if you use a

user, build your own feature engineering library,

you can have it do very specific things like how many capital letters do something using that’s, that’s not something that a person who’s analyzing, say, a book might think about, because it’s not helpful. But think about the people in, for example, social media conversations, if you got a tweet, that’s all in caps, either the caps lock key was stuck on a keyboard, well, that person’s really angry and wants to yell really, really loud, well, then us angry, they want to yell really, really loud.

That’s a feature that knowing how many capital letters, or what percentage of a social media post is all capital letters is

actually could be a distinguishing feature, especially when you pair it with something like emotion.

And if you have a target variable, like number of clicks, or

number of retweets, or shares or comments, or whatever it is, you want to use your endgame

metric, then creating all these additional features could help you understand what are the little subtleties within that text that

indicate the up there’s a there there, there’s something else to dig into this deeper to dig into. So

give some thought, when you’re doing your social media analytics, when you’re doing your marketing analytics, when you’re doing

your blog analysis, your content marketing, give some thought to how you analyze text, how you extract features, what features you look at, remember, features or columns in the spreadsheet,

and ask whether you’ve done enough

on the feature engineering front to find hidden meaning. Now, a a prerequisite of feature engineering is that you’ve got to have an algorithm that allows you to analyze all these features in combination and figure out which ones that matter the most

trusted insights this we use three or four different algorithms depending on the type of data set and what’s in it.

But all of that software is free. It’s open source software, academia has done an incredible job, the academic world of sharing working code for all of us to do enjoy and use important to make sure that academia remains well funded for

that very reason.

But the answers are knowable. And I think that’s probably the most important thing of this entire Fun Fact Friday is that

the code is available, the data is available, we have to be the ones to engineer the features

unless you use deep learning, in which case it can do automated feature engineering.

And

it’s just a matter of putting the pieces in the right order and having everything prepared well, to do this extraction, what do you get out of it, at the end,

you get a model that says these are the top five or 10 things that create

should not create that have a high statistical correlation to the end metric you care about. So if it’s retweets, for example, these are the five or 10 things that matter most out of this library of

of data

for example, I am working right now with a data set

that is medium posts 1.4 million medium posts and

the this is a massive massive data set

and there’s an end target

collapse and then there’s not much else right so I have to engineer

about 15 new variables in order to do the feature engine but at the end of the day I want to know what has a high mathematical relationship to collapse and then we use that as the basis for

our testing plan to say okay let’s go and test to see if we do more of X y&z do we get more claps

at the end on medium

that’s what you do with this that’s the value of this is gives you a much more focused testing plan. and that in turn means that your marketing can get more effective. So

feature engineering is the name of what you do in data science to get

at this stuff, try it out

dig into your data you already have and see what’s in there see if it if there’s value that is hidden within your data and see if you can use feature engineering and then some machine learning statistical techniques to

to unlock that

value. As always, please please please leave comments and questions in the comments box below and subscribe to our YouTube channel and I newsletter and I’ll talk too soon.

Take care what help solving your company’s data

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Jim asks, “Do you know what are the best tips for confident public speaking?”

This is a great and tough question. Many, many people are terrified of public speaking. At the end of the day, public speaking is just another form of content marketing. Learn the three basic rules and public speaking tips for being a confident public speaker in this video.

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In today’s episode, Jim asks, Do you know what are the best tips for confident public speaking,

public speaking, is it really in many ways, nothing more than a form of content delivery, right. So if you are good at content delivery, in some format, you will be probably good at public speaking, there are two fundamental things that create great confident public speaking. Number one, you need to have content that the audience desperately wants, and to, you need to know your material cold. So let’s unpack these a little bit

most public speakers in order to in order to feel like they’re, they’re getting kind of energy of the audience, they want

to all sorts of stuff. And, and there’s three basic at aspects to the performance itself. If there’s entertainment, there’s engagement, and the education or the sort of the three things that you can do as a public speaker, to get the audience to, to respond to you. So being entertaining as one being provocative and saying things are doing things or dressing a certain way to get a rise out of the audience. And being educational teaching people something,

but at the end of the day, your content, your speech, or talk your whatever else has to be what the audience desperately wants to learn about to get something from, especially if you’re talking about professionally speaking,

as in the business world,

the audiences are there to be entertained to some degree to be motivated, because there’s an enormous number of people who, who actively look for things like motivational speakers, and to learn something that they can use to make their own lives better.

That may be technical things like how to do a certain type of work better, it may be

things to avoid risk, again, ton of conferences and events, which are all about risk and regulation, well, then they look dry on the outside. But if you’re in that world, those could be very, very compelling topics, new regulation, new IRS regulation, 127 a could be a keynote topic, if it is a value to the audience and the audience is all CPA is and they know all their customers are going to be knocking on the door in January, asking about this regulation, then, then that talk could be extremely viable, very compelling,

but

where a lot of people who are not

great public speakers fall down is the content that they deliver is much too much about themselves or their company. And not enough about the audience. When the audience is there for their own benefit. They want to, they want to learn something, they want to be motivated, they want to be entertained, and the speaker doesn’t do that the speakers and said all about themselves. So that’s the first part.

The second part is knowing your material cold. And what makes you a confidence speaker is not knowing the material itself rigidly cold, I can have just, you know,

to read off the memorize the talk and read off it, but actually be an expert in your content in your field, having that expertise so that no matter what happens, you can deliver value to the audience.

So for example, I talk a lot about marketing analytics. And I know it’s in my talk, I know the general layout, I’m about to do a talk in San Francisco on a is application and marketing analytics. And I have my presentation on all that stuff. But if the power where to go out, or the project didn’t work, or whatever, I could deliver the entire talk as it is without a single visual, because it would be harder for the audience to see because some of the things are highly visual, like, hey, imagine a chart

of colorful blue squares

with words in them. And the bigger the square, the more important the word, that’s what you know, a way of visualizing a certain type of analysis. It’s a lot harder without visuals, but

because I know not only the talk itself, but also have the domain expertise in pieces that went into that talk, then I can speak confidently about it. Because

no matter what the audience does, no matter what the venue does, I can still deliver value and

one of the things I’ve started doing in the last few years is is leaving a third of the time, whatever time we have been a lot It is Liga third of the time for Q amp a because that is where as a speaker, you can deliver additional value and demonstrate your expertise because someone will ask you a curveball question, like it’s not really all that much of a curveball and you answer the question and and you deliver value to that person in the audience. And other people in the audience may have that exact same exact question. And so you can help the questioner. You help the people around the question. And

you can show without telling that you know, what you’re talking about

knowing your material cold and having the domain expertise is the way you get to

enduring confidence when you speak, because after a certain amount of time, if once you’ve done the same talk 510, 2050

times you know it all the questions are, you’re not going to be surprised by a question.

And so you can be very confident in your talk in the q amp a in the audience in everything that happens within that performance.

Confident public speaking.

Guess the third aspect of it. And this is one that’s not changeable is whether you are comfortable and enjoy being in front of other people. A lot of people don’t, a lot of people are, do not enjoy public speaking, they do it because they have to work requires it or their position at work requires it. My old CEO and friend Todd Devon was very uncomfortable

public speaking. But he did it because as the founder of his company, he had to

until a lot of people

don’t enjoy that.

The one suggestion there is find a format that works for you. Maybe instead of standing up on the stage being the talking head for 45 minutes, and maybe sitting down on stage with a panelist and having a sort of like a coffee chat where you can interact with the person where you’re more conversational, rather than being a solo performer. So there may be different ways for you to perform. And

if you are absolutely unhappy, public speaking, don’t do it unless

circumstance dictates that you must, but you will not be a confident public speaker. If you hate it, it’s not something that you enjoy,

because you will be uncomfortable on stage.

And yes, you can hide it to a certain degree. But audiences know the difference between someone who’s there because they have to be and someone who’s there because they want to be and they love it. And that is their thing.

So

have content that the audience desperately wants. Number one, and the most important by far to know your material cold three want to be there. So those are the three basic tips for confident public speaking, there’s a whole bunch of other things that you can do. And the I would

check out the book steal

the show by Michael Port. It is a fantastic book if you want to learn more of that confidence. And that performance of public speaking is fantastic. So check that out if that’s something you want to dig more into. As always, thanks for asking the question, leave your question in the comments below. Please subscribe to the YouTube channel newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. What help solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems.

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LinkedIn’s algorithm focuses heavily on engagement. We want our posts to be seen by our networks; however, getting seen means being engaged. Here’s a simple, powerful tactic you should add to your daily social media tasks to boost your visibility in the LinkedIn algorithm:

Say hello to any first degree connection on LinkedIn that visits your profile.

You’ll find them in this section:

And then just say hello by sending a message.

My only suggestion on what to say is don’t pitch unless you know the person well and you’re already in the process of doing business with them. Instead, just say hello.

The catch is that you have to do this regularly. The easiest way to remember to do it is to set a calendar reminder daily for it.

Do this daily, and you’ll deepen the connection to your social networks and make them much more valuable to you than a largely faceless group of people that you only see reported as a number of connections. Unless you have a wildly popular profile, once a day should cover everyone and anyone who stops by. Of course, if you see someone who’s a second degree that you know, offer to connect with them while you’re doing your daily hello.

Why else is this important? Someone visiting your profile on LinkedIn probably has a different intent than, say, someone visiting your profile on Facebook. By saying a simple hello, you’re opening the door to conversation that they might be hesitant to have – after all, chances are they don’t want to be seen as a stalker following you. Assuage that fear with a friendly hello, and see where the conversation takes you. At the very least, you’ll demonstrate to the algorithm that you’re a real person who’s highly-engaged with your network.

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While this post is aimed primarily at US citizens, conceptually it applies to every participatory government.

Now that you’ve voted… you did vote, yes? Good. Now that you’ve voted, let’s talk for a moment about two things, teams and steps.

First, realize that after the election – as is the case after every election – we are all still on the same big team. The powers that be want us divided into camps. Red vs. blue. Black vs. white. Women vs. men. The more division, the easier it is for them to get their way. Trevor Noah discussed this at length in his book, Born a Crime, about how the ruling party managed to keep apartheid for so long in South Africa: by turning individual groups against each other.

My martial arts teacher, Stephen K. Hayes, has a wonderful expression:

Chaos at the bottom means order at the top.

Order at the bottom means chaos at the top.

When ordinary people fight each other and distract each other with trivialities, the powerful benefit. When ordinary people unite, those in power tend to lose it if they’ve not governed well.

The first step to taking power away from those who want to control you is to see the game for what it is. Every time a news story or a social media post provokes you to anger, recognize that it’s part of the control mechanism to encourage you to hate someone who’s on the same team. Refuse to play along and instead find something that does the opposite. Go for a walk, meditate, volunteer somewhere – anything that does the opposite of invoking anger. Refuse the play the game, refuse to be controlled, refuse to see someone else as the enemy just because you’re told to.

Second, let’s talk next steps. No matter what the outcome of the election is, you likely have a point of view about how the world should be, how the world should work, how you want to be treated. What are the positive manifestations of those views? What will you do to bring those to life? Voting is important, a critical civic duty. But it’s not the only thing we could do. If you believe, for example, in equal pay for equal work for women, what project, research, or work will you do tomorrow to advance that cause?

A popular term in business circles lately is the side hustle, the thing you do outside of work. I agree that everyone should have one, but it doesn’t have to be for profit. Your side hustle could be socially-related – advancing a cause, helping those less fortunate, donating time, money, and effort to making the world a better place. From that perspective, what will your side hustle be after the polls close?

Side hustles don’t have to be big, and can leverage what you’re already skilled at. If, for example, you know SEO well, donate some time and effort to a non-profit whose mission you care about to optimize their website and attract a few more donations.

If you voted in the election, thank you. Now, take the next step and invest a little time each day towards a side hustle that helps make the world a better place.

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Robert asks, “This is good information, but I have a more basic question about B2B influencer marketing. My company manufactures specialty chemicals for a niche market. We know that companies use our products, but we need some influencers to help drive our sales more. The problem is that companies that use our products are typically quite secretive about their patented products, which are typically used in highly regulated environments.

To counter this secrecy, I have been blogging for my company on the company’s blog site about published reports in scientific journals where individual researchers and research groups have used our products successfully. This has helped drive sales a little bit, but not much. I also do social media outreach (Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn) on behalf of my company.

What I would really like to do if find influencers who can speak credibly about our products. Unfortunately, the people who would be the best influencers work in this niche industrial space and are bound by company policy and/or NDAs not to talk about what they do. So, given all of that, how do I go about finding people who are influencers but who can also talk about how our products can make these products better? Or am I sort of stuck since this is a normally-highly-regulated niche market?”

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In today’s episode, Robert asks, I have a more basic question about b2b influencer marketing. My company manufactures special chemicals for a niche market. We know that companies, user products, we need influencers to help drive our sales more. And I’ve been blogging, my company’s blog and social media, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, on behalf of my company, etc. What I really want to do is find influencers. You can speak credibly about our products. Unfortunately, people who’d be the best influencers work in this space and are bound by MBAs and company policy to not talk about what they do. So given all that, how do I go about finding people who are influences but it can also talk about our products

make these products better and or my stuck since this is a highly regulated market. Good question. not uncommon and b2b because b2b, especially once you get down in the specific niches does have

not as many industry

interest and those influencers typically are as you mentioned locked down to some other company so you have two choices here fundamentally it’s builder by

the first choice is to build your own influencers and this is it may be you but it may also be other people in the company who are subject matter experts that you can use and instead of focusing on building an influencer program, you’re going to help them build their personal brands. So you’re going to help them get published more you’re going to help them be prominent on the networks and then the places where they are most credible and have the highest reach

in specific markets, especially scientific, medical and pharmacy markets. Though the influence there may not be in LinkedIn, for example, although that’s not a bad place to be.

But it may be in scientific journals. It may be in books, maybe an academic publishing it may be at conferences for

example if if you make chemicals that would be appropriate for say oncology, you may want to look at it at a an event like ASCO, the American Society of cancer oncologists.

And so you’re going to build your own influencers, that’s one avenue. And that’s going to take a long time, it will take a while for people to get comfortable building their personal brands, be proficient at it, make the time for it, which is a real problem with subject matter experts. They are quite rightly focused so heavily on being experts that they don’t have time to do the legwork around it. And so if you’re committed to this path, you may want to have a someone who’s a junior marketer or a coach or an admin or something, do the legwork on behalf of that person posting for them, for example, recording conversations and transcribing them and creating content around those so you

You up, you may want to create a content engine around one or more subject matter experts. I recommend having as many as possible

in highly regulated markets, in all b2b markets. If someone leaves the company, they take their personal brand with them there, there is no way to transfer that brand to somebody else. So one of the most important things is to have a deep bench of subject matter experts so that if one or more leave, you have the ability to continue on with the program and have people be prominent, ideally, at least one of the people who is on your bench is

an executive, especially someone who’s got a big stake in the game. So a founder, a co founder, a CEO, someone who is materially invested in the company and is unlikely to leave because they have this this massive commitment. So that’s the bill to push the by approach.

is even more

could be more expensive. But it’s more interesting because just as people leave companies to go elsewhere to go to what they perceive as greener pastures, there is the opportunity to go scout and recruit someone. So if there is someone in your field in your industry who is highly influential, that might be a consideration for hiring, like equally true, you might have things like how large is your LinkedIn network as part of the acquisition process for new talent.

Now, again,

you might end up just grabbing true subject matter experts and then having a team of people around that person to help create and promote and things for them

but that’s not the worst thing in the world to consider when you’re when you’re hiring is what kind of of publicity priorities do we also want a high ranking or a highly visible person to have within the industry and I would suggest

When you do that, make sure that it is explicitly stated as part of the job description. And perhaps even in their employment agreement that they agreed to spend a certain amount of time promoting the company on your behalf and with clear requirements so that they know what they’re getting into. And you know what it is that you’re likely to get

when I worked with a couple of pharmaceutical companies at a at a past role. There were folks who were legitimate subject matter experts and they had speaking and publishing as requirements the same as like a tenured professor almost. So they had to do a certain amount of work in order to maintain their their status within that community.

If I had to pick an approach I would pick the build approach because once you have a personal branding team established within a company, it becomes easier to apply that team to multiple executives to multiple subject matter experts and as people come and go

They go into the machine and as and then see their brand rise. That machine also is in some ways a a fringe benefit for employees. If they if an employee wants to participate, wants to promote the company and wants to grow their personal brand, having that team of experts or having a team of marketers who are skilled in building someone’s personal brand be available is the way to go. Because

not only is it a benefit to the employees, but it’s actually a disincentive for people to leave because they know once they leave the company and once they lose that access to that team, the train stops rolling right there. They then have to do all that work for their personal brand. They no longer have someone doing it for them. So they’re

if they care about that prominence, if they care about that publicity, they may be less inclined to leave for greener pastures. So it is

A potential fringe benefits. So good question. challenging question.

If you want to take a look at, you know what a team like that looks like,

go to an into

some of the the video is on Gary van or Chuck’s YouTube channel. Now, he has a team of 20 doing his self promotion. And so that’s almost certainly unrealistic for any initiative. You start out with, at least in the in the beginning, you’re going to have one person a more junior person, the beginning but they can still fulfill the same basic activities which is creating content it’s it’s the the standard content marketing content, create, distribute, activate measures a little create content on behalf of your subject matters. They’ll publish it, they’ll distribute it they’ll reach out to other people who are prominent in the space who are not competitors publications for example, and then they’ll measure and provide updated reporting to the subject matter experts about what’s happening with their personal

brand

but that would be that would be the start get somebody who’s got a year to a marketing experience who can be trained and can learn things like crazy teach them how to do personal branding on behalf of someone else and then set them free and provide provide metrics for it. So great question Robert. As always, if you have additional questions, please leave them in the comments. Subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter and I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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Tammy asks, “In theories of persuasion from social psychology, the effectiveness of a message to persuade someone is significantly harmed when a receiver of the message becomes aware of any ulterior motivations (i.e., getting compensation) that the source of the message may have for making that argument, or they believe that someone is trying to persuade them. This has always concerned me when it comes to formal agreements being set with influencers. While your goal is to be transparent, the second that you disclose that you are in a relationship with a company, I begin questioning whether your recommendations come from truly loving and believing in the product or because you are receiving some sort of compensation. Therefore, the whole thing backfires. Any thoughts on combating this?”

Full disclosure, I’m not a psychologist. That said, I refer to Robert Cialdini’s factors of influence from his many books on the topic:

• Reciprocity
• Consistency
• Social proof
• Authority
• Liking
• Scarcity

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In today’s episode, Tammy asks, as a follow on to the previous question in theories of persuasion from social social psychology, the effectiveness of my message to persuade someone is significantly harmed when a receiver of the message becomes aware of any ulterior motivations, such as getting compensation that the source of the message may have for making that argument or they believe that someone is trying to persuade them. This is always concerned me when it comes to formal agreements being set with influencers, while your goal is to be transparent. The second you disclose that you’re in a relationship with the company. I question whether your recommendations come from truly loving and believing the product or because you’re receiving some sort of compensation. Therefore, the whole thing backfires. Any thoughts on combating this?

I’m not a psychologist,

probably the work that comes to mind. Most is Robert Cialdini has many, many books on influence.

And sort of his six core factors of influence reciprocity, consistency, social proof, authority, liking scarcity and

very quickly reciprocity is someone does something for you you feel a social depth to do something for them consistency is people wanting to do things that are consistent with their past behaviors social proof is bandwagon effect everyone everyone else is doing and I should be to authority which is trusting people who are in authority figures buying from people who would like liking and scarcity a limitation you’re on sale now limited time or limited numbers those are the sort of the the six ways that businesses and people in general can influence other people now of those six three of them relate to influencers social proof is one the other people are doing it particularly if you see an influence talk about something and then all

whole bunch of other people share it, comment on it retweeted etc, as a way to, to to show us social proof that hey this is a an important thing so somebody talking about

a server and encryption method in b2b a perfume a fragrance a coffee and b2c,

there’s a social proof element to that. The second factor that makes a lot of sense is authority so influencers by default are somewhat authoritative figures in the sense that we look up to them we look up to them we pay attention to what they have to say right now.

So political season in the in the United States and a very famous entertainer Taylor Swift has been highlighting people to go and vote and a number of places that reported unusual upticks since her announcement in voter registration voter participation so

that authority

It is very real and obviously companies have used this one for a really long time you guys like I’m not a doctor but I play one on TV Of course we pay attention to that and the third is liking and liking us where other influencers really do well which is

we buy from people we like we trust people we like and so if an influencer is likeable if an influencer focuses on that those the human aspects of course we’re going to buy for them. So

from that question

if an influencer is using any of these principles that that Cialdini outlines and his books of course, they

they still have that person that that element of, hey, you’re being paid to say this but it can be overwritten.

The other thing I think I add to this list which is sort of in here sort of not which is

is demonstrated expertise not necessarily authority but subject matter knowledge if an influencer

especially if it’s something you don’t necessarily know well but have been inflicted demonstrates credibility they demonstrate the ability to to know what they’re talking about

that can also help overcome that bias because yes

you know a real simple example is sponsored product placement if you go on to a site like all recipes and you pull up a recipe for something, and there are certain sponsored recipes, you know, sponsored by Campbell’s soup and this is this recipe that inevitably has a Campbell Soup product unit

you may or may not go out and buy Campbell Soup to make that recipe but at the very least you can you still trust that recipe because it makes sense like okay put a mushroom soup in your in your

string bean casserole and will taste better than just using regular milk and so there’s a level of expertise there that

I think adds to the credibility of an influencer especially around more complex subject matters, like b2b influence.

That said

the authority the liking and the social proof are incredibly powerful. When you look at

a really good example when when one of the Kardashians got in trouble, got a fellow fellow, the FTC for Hawking a nutraceutical product

Do you honestly believe that

someone like that has the deep subject matter expertise into the nutraceutical probably not not saying for sure because people can surprise you famous actor, Dolph Lundgren has a master’s degree in chemical engineering from MIT really smart guy

but

on the whole an influencer does not necessarily need something

matter expertise if they have that authority and that social proof working for them. Now, if you are

if you are an influencer, if you can get all six working for you, you’re gonna you’ll obviously be that much more influential. And so some of the other principles like reciprocity, consistency and scarcity May May equally be at work, especially with this something like a giveaway, hey, I’ve got 1000 of these things to give away is automatically scarcity. And there’s automatically reciprocity which is one of the reasons why influences do giveaways

and why people tend to fall in camps. So for example, I do a lot of work with IBM.

And so if if I’m talking to people who for whom IBM has already in the consideration set maybe they haven’t bought yet but but they are advocates of or believers in the way IBM does things,

then

that consistency principle will be applied.

One of the things we see right now in the very, very polarized political environment of the us is that consistency principle being taken to extreme

where just because you will you believe in the blue team or the red team

and you stick with that consistency that commitment to a perspective or a team color or whatever.

As the message drifts into more and more absurd extremes you still stick with that because of that consistency of that that commitment. So if an influencer is able to have a consistent message, or even go so far as to create their own tribe, Taylor Swift for example, you can extend your message to

you can extend your influence by by by working with companies and products that are consistent with your audience are consistent with your past behavior or consistent with what you and your tribe stand for, so

The payment thing

is impactful. I think if none of these factors of influence are in play once, one or more of these much stronger factors are in play, I think the payment thing kind of goes out the window,

or at least its impact is significantly diminished and the more boxes you tick off of shoddy nice list, the less than less the payment matters. So something to think about. And we’d love to hear your opinions because Tammy who’s commented on this post is actually a doctor of psychology is I’d like to hear from someone who actually is an authority figure

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Tammy asks, “Are you seeing the use of #socialmedia influencers for B2B on the rise? I think most of us primarily think of it in terms of B2C.”

B2B #InfluencerMarketing is already huge, especially in tech #B2B. I work with IBM on this front as well as a few other companies. Many of our peers do as well.

The difference between B2B and B2C is real in #influencer #marketing compared to the rest of marketing. B2B requires, I’d argue, much more refined domain expertise and specific chops than B2C.

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In today’s episode, Tammy asks, Are you seeing the use of social media influencers for b2b on the rise, I think most of us primarily think of it in terms of b2c

as funny because, for me b2b influencer marketing is already huge, especially in technology and b2b technology, marketing technology, it a Service Cloud all that stuff there is a tremendous influencer marketing wave already in place. So I

work with IBM, for example, the lovely IBM certificate right here.

I work with IBM on cloud and on analytics and things like that and help promote things like IBM Watson studio, for example, FTC disclosure My company is an IBM Business Partner, if you buy anything from us for IBM, we get some compensation for it.

And there’s a trouble this amount of I would say smaller influencer activity

than b2c. When we think of b2c we have a tendency to think of like really big B to C influencers, like the Kardashians, right, and, and,

and major celebrities, but they’re also a ton of other

folks in b2c with smaller audiences. The same is true in b2b. There are a few, like really big b2b influencers, typically, they’re also speakers, for example, someone like a Malcolm Gladwell,

who is very popular in b2b circles, somewhere to Seth Godin, very popular in b2b circles, that wouldn’t necessarily popular in in the b2c circles. And then there is a, I think, a much larger tier of mid level influencers than and b2c and b2c, it’s kind of, you know, you have the major celebrities and you have everybody with 500 followers, Instagram, trying to be a food, influencer,

in b2b there is, I think, much more of that

granularity, which is you can have people hundreds of thousands of followers, thousands of followers, even hundreds of followers as far in terms of audience sizes,

and they do okay, because

the dynamics of b2b sales are that you don’t need a lot of people, you need the right people, whereas on b2c, you do need volume except for high value sales, like mortgages.

But on b2b, if the top 50 CMOS in the world all follow you guess what, you only need

50 people

to be interested, incredibly influential,

because most b2b sales are also complex sales. There’s also more nuance about where an influencer plays a role with b2c, particularly transactional, b2c, the purchase cycle is very short. So an influencer has to be able to get awareness, build consideration, get evaluation and, and purchase all within a very short period of time with b2b

you can be influential just in a very now a part of a very large sales cycle and still be able to deliver tremendous value to a company because the company selling for example, say firewalls, they may have no problem with awareness, but they may have a great deal of issues with credibility, like people may not understand that their their firewall is

slightly more secure than the competitors, but in a unique way. And so an influencer, who can

speak credibly about how modern threats are targeted to as a very specific little angle can be very influential in overcoming bias hesitation. Someone like a Brian Krebs, for example, or Bruce Schneier would be the type of people that say, okay, yep, that that person can help overcome our credibility issue. So there’s a difference there. b2b,

particularly complex b2b, I would argue is also requires a lot more very specific domain expertise than their counterparts and b2c, someone with

5000 followers and b2b who’s specify specific in, say, machine learning,

that’s someone

who’s going to need to be able to talk to their audience credibly

about the very detailed specifics

of machine learning. Like this person is an expert, maybe even in in just reinforcement learning.

Or maybe they’re just influential in ATL, whereas someone with 5000 followers and b2c, they still require expertise, they still need to know what they’re talking about,

but there may not be as much nuance to it. Someone if, for example, is who’s doing travel photography

and has 5000 followers, they’ve got to go to interesting places,

and they should have a unique point of view that is

different than everybody else who’s doing travel photography,

but they don’t know necessarily need to be exacting in their in their expertise in order to be to be credible, and in order to create influence to

to create awareness, consideration, evaluation and purchase.

So those are

there those are the differences I would say between two influencers. And one of the reasons why people don’t think of b2b influencers first, I think there’s tremendous potential for influencers in b2b. There’s also one other catch

b2c is very difficult to quantify, particularly when there’s so much other interference, big brand campaigns and stuff like that.

On the b2b side, b2b,

his tradition has been much better at analytics, tracking, and ROI marketing automation systems are typically tuned for b2b, which means that influences have to be able to prove their value much more rigidly than B to C, and B to C. And you can have some say, hey, the celebrity was at our car launch and got 100 million people to look at the car. And that’s a success in b2b. It’s like, hmm, so how many leads drive, right? How many? How many mq else showed up in in, in our marketing automation software? How many opportunities Did you bring in? How many deals Have you pushed forward,

because of the nature of b2b analytics, it can be a little more challenging

for influencers, to be able to really prove their value.

Not always, but companies in b2b do, take a much harder look at like,

what’s the ROI here than a b2c company that is willing to accept like, Hey, you just help build our brand, right? You just we don’t, we’re not even gonna attempt to quantify it. We just know that having your name attached to our thing is a good thing

I would definitely say for any company that is considering b2b influence look at your cost per acquisition for new audience in particular,

go and do your numbers like what does it cost you to get a lead What does it cost you to get a prospect What does it cost you to get an SQL or an SQL or whatever it is in your marketing automation system and then when you start looking at influencers say okay influencer in your experience you have you brought in 50 prospects if I if we pay for you to speak at this show,

will you what’s likely you’ll move had the KPI that that you care about most

you will find depending on the influencer, if it’s the

right influencers, just like a VC, if it’s the right influencers, they will move the needle for you on the right metrics that that move your business forward.

I know a campaign I did for IBM, one of the things that we were being

asked to do is drive traffic to a particular site. And, you know, we have we all have very good analytics and the show Yep, hey, look, this many more people walked in the door and signed up for free trials of the thing. And that’s how success was measured. And so there’s a lot of great ways to measure b2b influencers. There’s a lot of great b2b influencers out there. And it is absolutely something that b2b marketers should be considering, and evaluating and deciding, yep, I want to I want that person’s expertise to to be loaned to my brand and my products and services to drive my marketing numbers. So great question Tammy. As always, if you got questions, please leave them in the comments and subscribe to the YouTube channel newsletter. I’ll talk to you soon. Take

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Eduardo asks, “Does it make sense to have an active social media account like Facebook if you’re not really active on it, I.e. putting likes, leaving comments?”

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In today’s episode of The Bardo asks, Does it make sense to have an active social media account? like Facebook? If you’re not really active on it, like putting likes leaving comments for a business? The answer is yes. And there are two primary reasons, actually, three primary reasons you’d want to do. This number one is a defensive reason, which is to save once you set up an account and and get to the point where you can establish a custom URL and things you want to secure your brand’s name or a relevant product name, if you’re going product side to make sure that no one else can get it.

This is important less so now Well,

it’s important in general, because it requires you to take some effort, but that secures your name. Now, there’s a good chance on the mature networks that

like Twitter and Facebook that the names already been taken. So you’ll have to do it p a little creative, just like domain names for your website, but you still need one. And you still want to make sure that you get that account and keep it somewhat active, at least in the sense of like, post something every month, so that

the network realizes that you’re still there, because some services will shutter your account after a certain amount of lack of activity. The second reason is for analytics and tracking purposes, using things like facebook, facebook, in particular, has web analytics. It’s called Facebook analytics. And it’s okay. But having the data certainly doesn’t hurt is attribution and analysis is completely centered around itself, no surprise there. But you still want to be able to see that data

and being able to track particularly things like your your web properties, your off off network properties, but also your fans to if you do have people who are liking your page, just because he stumbled across it. It’s not a bad source of data. So there’s the second reason to have an actual account is data. The third reason and the big one is advertising. You want the ability to advertise to other people and for good or ill social networks, especially Facebook, and the Facebook family are where all the action is right now. Yeah, Facebook covers 2 billion and change people.

That’s a substantial part of the human race, more so than any other single product in history. And so if you want to be able to reach those people with advertising, you’re gonna have to use Facebook,

not even Google AdWords has that level of reach, I don’t think at least within one product,

Instagram has what 500 million active daily users as part of the Facebook family man, you have all the other Facebook properties of which in which advertising is starting to appear now like WhatsApp and messenger. So if you want to be able to advertise to those audiences, you need a Facebook account. And it needs to be an account a page specifically for brands, it can’t be a personal account has to be a page

facebook advertising, though I will say this up front, if you’re not active on Facebook, and you don’t really know that ecosystem, Facebook advertising is potentially a giant waste of money and time because

like Google AdWords was when it first started out.

advertising on social media is very much its own profession. advertising on Facebook is its own profession is it is a discipline of its own, it’s got its own quirks, and you can hide you can be very, very specialized within just Facebook advertising in order to maximize the impact of the platform. So if you’re just getting started, is a really good idea to take some of the free courses that Facebook offers in their business portal to learn how to our ties on Facebook effectively, there are a lot of tips, there are a lot of tricks there a lot of gotchas, there are all sorts of different ways that it can go sideways. And so taking those courses is a good idea. It is worth your time, because it will save you money in the long run. So make sure that you do that. But those are the three reasons that you would want to have an active account on social networks. Now, should it be every social network defensively, I think so it doesn’t hurt you to have your Twitter handle and your LinkedIn company page and your Pinterest page doesn’t have to have those lockdown

from an analytics

perspective. If your audiences there makes sense your audiences on Facebook period. And the story 2 billion people, your audience is there more niche networks like Pinterest, for example, your audience may or may not be there. So they may or may not be data worth scraping. And remember, there are a lot of social networks, humbler is still a thing particularly in the teenage crowd.

Twitter is still very relevant especially if you’re a politician

read it is is a not only thing but growing. And then they’re all the the the the third tier networks the little one off niches that are unique to your space. Those are worth your time if your audience is there yet just got to get to know the spaces and then on the third front in again, if you haven’t taken any training, I’d be very hesitant to have you actively go out and advertising unless you try it out like at $5 apiece just to just for the experience, but be super careful because you can spend a lot of money unintentionally that way. So great question and if you have questions, please leave them in the comments

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