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  • You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for B2B Influencer Marketing in 2024?

    You Ask, I Answer: Predictions for B2B Influencer Marketing in 2024?

    In today’s episode, I explain how the demise of Twitter has created major challenges for measuring influence. With key conversations happening across new, disparate platforms lacking data access, brands must get creative. I advise asking your audience who influences them and embracing community-level influence in addition to individual influencers. Tune in to hear my predictions on the evolution of influencer marketing measurement and trends.

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    In today’s episode, Caitlin asks, What are your predictions for influencer marketing in the b2b space in 2024 and beyond? How do you foresee the industry evolving and what trends do expect to emerge? Okay, so here’s the biggest thing about influencer marketing that is going to be a challenge for pretty much the entire industry data.

    A lot of influencer marketing tools have been calibrated on Twitter data.

    Twitter was the most popular data source because it was an open network graph that everyone could look at that was predominantly accessible to by API.

    And with the recent changes, we actually let’s let’s call a spade a spade.

    Twitter is gone.

    We’ve got this new company called x that has a very different population than Twitter did back in in the old days.

    And a lot of the discussions, particularly for b2b marketing are happening in places where we don’t have data.

    So you have the Twitter diaspora after Twitter’s demise, you now have people on x you have people on threads on mastodon on blue sky, etc, etc.

    You have a ton of new communities, b2b communities, tech communities, on places like discord where there’s absolutely no monitoring whatsoever, nor is it even allowed.

    You have a lot of conversations and a lot of the social media influence, if you will, on LinkedIn, which is a huge b2b source.

    And again, very little data, there’s, there’s not a lot that you can get out of LinkedIn, at least not to the breadth and the depth that we get from we used to get from Twitter.

    So one of the big things that major players in the space are going to need to figure out is how do you calculate influence? And there isn’t a clear answer.

    There are obviously publications, things like news articles, for example, that you can you can see if someone’s in, say, martech.org, or martech post or any of the those publications, you can certainly gauge Okay, well, this person must have some influence to have you made a contributor.

    You have things like speaking at events, people who are on stage inherently have more influence than people who are not on stage.

    At least from a visibility perspective.

    And if you think about it, a lot of the categories of influence that are out there, you have people who are sort of network hubs, they’re the center of their networks.

    You have people who are subject matter experts, you have people who are broadcasters, big mouths, right? All of those different categories, again, we’re reliant on over reliant on Twitter data.

    So the big question becomes, what do we do instead? How does a company judge influence? The single best way to judge influence right now, and this is going to vary from company to company, is to ask your audience is to go to your audience and say, Hey, who else do you read? Who else do you pay attention to? Send out email surveys, ask on social media, etc.

    And gather that data, because ultimately, the point of b2b influence is to influence buying decisions is to influence awareness, consideration, and eventually conversion.

    So we need to ask our ideal buyers and our current buyers.

    Who do you pay attention to at each of these stages in your journey, so that we know where to spend our time and money.

    And it may turn out, for example, that influence is not a person anymore.

    This is a relatively infrequent perspective that a lot of people don’t have.

    Influence isn’t just a person, right? It’s only Hey, pay attention to Christopher Penn, right? It is now also at the community level.

    Hey, I’m a member of the analytics for marketers slack community, which is 3500 people.

    I’m a member of the marketing AI Institute slack community of the spin sucks PR community.

    And these communities have influence in of themselves.

    When someone’s in for example, analytics for marketers, they ask, Hey, I’m looking to buy this thing.

    Has anyone had any experience with it? No one person that community may be the influencer.

    But instead, you may have a network of hundreds of people contributing their answers.

    And if one answer keeps popping up over and over and over again, that community has conducted the influence.

    Now, here’s the challenge.

    Many of these private social media communities have absolutely no measurement.

    And outsiders are not permitted to measure them, I’m permitted to see the content.

    So this remains a challenge for B2B brands, that you need to have essentially ambassadors in as many communities as you can manage.

    So just not even to participate, just to listen, just to pay attention, just to see where people spend their time and what they talk about.

    So those are the major trends in B2B influencer marketing.

    And I think it’s really important when you’re when you’re looking at engaging influencer marketing firms, influencers themselves and things like that, you’d be looking at the person, the community, and what data you have to back those decisions.

    And it’s going to be really challenging for the industry to manage all three of those any of those three without a substantial amount of manual effort.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Almost Timely News, October 15, 2023: The AI Goldmine You Already Own

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    Something interesting is happening in the use of large language models. As more models become available, as open source models become more powerful, and as support systems and infrastructure pop up around the models, how the most successful companies use models is changing.

    Today, most people use large language models (and now large multimodal models) as a self-contained system. You log into Claude or ChatGPT and you just use the system as-is, asking it to be language model, interpreter, source of truth, and output machine all at once. We have a monolithic view of large language models as these giant black boxes that just do stuff that seems like magic.

    That’s fine for many tasks, especially tasks that are public, tasks that don’t leverage confidential information, and tasks that require common knowledge. These tools and models work absolutely great for that, and people should absolutely leverage them for that purpose.

    But what if you want to use confidential data? What if you need more up to date data? What if you need to work with your data specifically?

    This is where the current monolithic view of models falls down – even more advanced applications like fine-tuning. The idea of taking a model and trying to keep using it as some kind of all-seeing oracle is inherently flawed for more and more applications, especially business applications. Keeping a model up to date and capable using tuning methods is cumbersome, slow, and expensive.

    What we see the smartest, leanest organizations pivoting to is a hybrid architecture, a hybrid approach. Here’s a concrete example. What happens when you use Microsoft Bing chat?

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    What Bing does is very clever and the best use of these advanced models. It takes our conversation and our line of inquiry, translates it into queries that work with Bing’s existing search engine, and queries the Bing data store. It gets information back from the Bing search engine, reformats it, and returns it as conversation.

    Bing leverages the power of the model’s understanding of language to write expert queries and then parse the information returned from their proprietary datastore. They don’t rely on the model as the source of factual information.

    That’s the approach that makes the most sense for most commercial applications of generative AI. We want models that can understand us and talk to the data we already have. We want models that can produce trusted data, data we know we already have, data we know we’ve already audited and vetted in many cases – and data we are probably not too keen on sharing with any external parties.

    For example, suppose you’re a medical office. You want the ability for a patient to ask a “virtual doctor” questions in a chat portal even when their real doctor isn’t around. You would definitely want a language model that knew a lot about medicine, but you’d especially want a model that could access the patient’s records and medical history to provide custom answers to that patient. You certainly would not want that medical data going anywhere outside the walls of your office except to the patient themselves. That’s a clear use case where the language model would be useful for translating between the arcane syntax of electronic medical records and everyday language, but the specific, private information of the patient should absolutely never be in the hands of an unauthorized third party.

    So how would you go about building something like this for your organization, something that leveraged the data you already have? The answer will depend on the resources you have available, but broadly speaking, you’ll need a few components. First, you’ll want a language model of some kind. You can use the GPT family of models from OpenAI, Anthropic’s system, or an open source model like something from the LLaMa 2 family. This is the part that does all the listening and talking.

    Second, you’ll want some kind of compatible database that a language model can talk to. There are special databases called vector databases which contain mathematical representations of your data. If you look in a regular database, you’ll see all the words and phrases and writing of your data. If you look in a vector database, you’ll see that plus all your words represented in numbers:

    Vector data

    Third, you’ll need the technology to connect your data to the vector database, and connect the vector database to your language model. The system of record most people use is a technology called LangChain, but you can accomplish pretty much the same thing with any major programming language with varying degrees of effort. Most modern AI-powered companies use LangChain because it’s both free and efficient at its job.

    Fourth, depending again on how sophisticated you want to be and the resources you bring to the table, you might want to build an add-on to your language model that contains specific domain knowledge which might or might not be in a bigger model. Going back to the medical office example, suppose your office specializes in allergies. You might have access to repositories of clinical research about allergies that aren’t available on the public internet. You might work with a technical resource to convert those papers into a special kind of add-on called a PEFT, a Prompt Efficient Fine Tune, that can make an off-the-shelf language model much smarter at a specific field of study.

    Those folks who’ve done a lot of work with open source image generation models are probably familiar with these technologies; there are many addons that help your AI-generated images look like a specific style, like 1990s cartoons or sci-fi movies.

    With that special add-on, you can make a foundation model expert in your field and industry with your repository of non-public research papers that you pay for, and then connect that now-specialized model to your private, proprietary data, creating an AI system that is incredibly expert at the task you’ve set before it. It will know your industry, know your company, know your customers, and be able to answer questions with a high degree of specificity and a lower degree of incorrectness because it’s relying on the data you give it, rather than expecting it to know everything.

    This system, this architecture, applies to everything. Imagine starting with a foundation model, then creating that special add-on that knows everything there is to know about how to be a great email marketer, and then connects to your company’s email marketing system. It will be able to craft emails that sound like you and adhere to best practices because it has domain expertise AND it has access to your data.

    And here’s the juicy secret, the business secret, the way to make a big pile of money. It’s the AI goldmine you already own. Your data? The data you’ve been generating for years, maybe even decades? That data – once cleaned of anything that is confidential – can be turned into one of those special add-ons as well. Imagine having a special add-on that’s tuned specifically for intellectual property lawyers, or an add-on that’s tuned just for real estate agents. Our companies are all sitting on mountains of non-public data that could become guides, trainers, and refiners for AI.

    Now is the time to start auditing the data you own. Now is the time to start experimenting with these tools to understand how to build these customizations, because they can be a powerful strategic advantage – especially if your company has a large amount of legacy data. You might just be sitting on the next AI goldmine.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Fairness and Mitigating Bias in AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Fairness and Mitigating Bias in AI?

    In today’s episode, I tackle the big question of mitigating bias in AI. I explain the differences between statistical bias and human bias, and equality of outcome versus opportunity. There are no easy answers, but understanding these concepts is key to documenting and implementing fairness policies for your models. Tune in for an in-depth look at this critical issue!

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    In today’s episode, Megan asks, Can you talk about mitigating bias in AI? This is a really big question.

    And there’s no satisfactory answer.

    So let’s start with that.

    There’s no satisfactory answers to this question.

    Here’s why.

    Managing bias and AI is tricky for a variety of reasons, the most critical of which is understanding what bias and fairness means.

    We don’t have a good definition for this.

    There is no universal answer for what is fair, and for what is biased.

    For example, there’s just fundamentally there’s two kinds of bias, there’s human bias, which is emotional in nature, and there’s statistical bias, which is mathematical in nature.

    Statistical bias is when your sample data does not represent is not statistically representative of the, the population that you’re sampling from.

    So if you were picking up beans from a bucket, and all the buckets, the beans you picked up were red, and in the bucket, the rest of the beans are green, you have a statistically non representative sample right.

    So from a question of fairness, you have you have some skewing.

    That’s the machine version.

    The human version talks more about things like protected classes, things like age, gender and gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, veteran status, religion, ethnicity, disability, all those things are what are called in law terms, and I’m not a lawyer, stay that I’m right away.

    These are called protected classes.

    And in many nations, it is illegal to use those protected classes to do things like make business decisions because they’re protected classes.

    For example, the Fair Housing Act says you may not discriminate on on housing based on race.

    If a Korean person or a Caucasian person who have equal credit scores and equal incomes, they should have an equal shot at that, you know, the apartment that they want to rent, you can’t say well, I I prefer Korean people.

    So this this Caucasian person shouldn’t get this apartment.

    That’s that is unfair.

    And is unfair, specifically along a protected class.

    So that’s an example of just statistical versus human bias.

    Here’s the problem.

    When it comes to fairness, there is no good definition because there are a lot of ways to slice and dice fairness.

    There’s two big categories of fairness, there is equality of opportunity, and equality of outcome.

    And depending on the culture you live in, depending on who you are, depending on the people around you.

    You may have different ideas about what is fair.

    And you may say, Well, I care about equality of outcome.

    And I another person may say I care about equality of opportunity.

    So let’s let’s talk through some examples.

    Because again, this is going to impact AI because and it already impacts other decision support systems that we already haven’t been using for decades, sometimes to very, very unfair effect.

    Let’s take gender and hiring.

    If you go by broad population statistics, any given population is roughly going to be about 45% male 45% female and 10% non traditional, right, non binary, etc.

    If you believe in equality of opportunity for a job, then you probably believe that everyone should get a fair shake that no one should be turned away from applying for a job or the chance of getting a job simply because of a protected class, right.

    So if if you’re doing going on gender, you would say let’s remove all identifying information that could give away someone’s gender, so that we make a fair hiring decision so that everyone has the same opportunity for the job.

    You would take their CV or their resume, cut off all the names and all that stuff, and just have the just have the raw data and you would compare those candidates who’s more qualified.

    That’s equality of opportunity.

    Is that fair? Some folks will say yes, that’s completely fair.

    Hey, everyone gets a fair shot.

    No one person has an advantage over the other.

    However, there’s also equality of outcome.

    If you believe in equality of outcome, meaning that your workforce and your hiring decision should represent the population as a whole, we’re actually aligning human bias to statistical bias, then you would have to retain and use that gender information and hire in such a manner that your employee population matches the broad population.

    So ideally, after a year of hiring, you would have a an employee base within a discipline that was 45% male 45% female 10% non traditional.

    Is that fair? How do you decide who decides what fairness is? There are folks who are particularly in in highly individualistic societies, believe equality of opportunity is the way to go.

    You might say, Hey, if we remove this information, this identifying information equality of opportunity should eventually lead to equality of outcome over a long period of time.

    Sometimes that’s true.

    Sometimes that’s not true.

    There are some fields, for example, like tech, where there’s a crazy gender bias that leans like 90 10 male.

    If you take samples that are representative from that population, statistically, your sample is going to retain that 90 10 bias, right? The same is true.

    In reverse, if you look at, say, hiring nurses, statistically, that field leans female.

    So do you want the a do you need to have a population that represents the broader populations that does that matter? I used to work at a company that was based in Atlanta.

    There were no black people on staff at a company of 150 people headquartered in Atlanta Buckhead specifically.

    And the question I asked was, where are the black people because Atlanta’s population is like 53% black.

    They should be at least somebody here.

    And there wasn’t.

    Now, that pretty clearly is biased.

    And what they said was, Oh, there aren’t any any qualified candidates, like really, okay.

    So just to start, I said, let’s focus on equality of opportunity, because there’s no way we’re gonna get into a discussion about equality of outcome with these people.

    Is it just to start, we’re gonna get the scissors out, cut off the names off the resumes.

    And we did, and put out some hiring position firing, got a bunch of responses, cut off the names of the resumes and anything else that was identified, obviously identifying of a person’s ethnicity, and then just handed out, I think we had 47 resumes, I think it was 47.

    And just had people, you know, rank choice, you know, 12345, we’re your top five candidates.

    When we did that, we had about 50% black folks, but another 20% Hispanic folks, 10% Middle Eastern folks, and then whatever is left over.

    That was a case where equality of opportunity as the bare minimum showed that there was a very clear bias in hiring there.

    And we actually ended up hiring someone who was Iranian, Iranian ethnic origin.

    That bias was pretty, pretty bad.

    Right.

    And that was a case where I’m pretty sure it was conscious.

    Was that fair? Did we approach the hiring decision fairly? Yes.

    But the employee workforce still did not represent the broader population.

    So we started with the equality of opportunity.

    But we didn’t get to a quality of outcome, at least not in the time that I worked at that company.

    Now, take all these examples and bring them into AI.

    AI is a reflection of us.

    And whether we’re talking classical AI or generative AI, these same principles apply.

    Do we care about equality of opportunity? Do we care about equality of outcome? This is a big decision.

    This is a decision that matters a lot.

    And it matters because it determines how you’re going to set up the systems, how you’re going to judge fairness, how you’re going to implement fairness and how you’re going to enforce those rules for fairness within your system.

    Let’s say you are all in on generative AI, you think it’s going to save you a ton of money on customer service, you’re going to do what’s called call volume deflection.

    How can you reduce the number of calls to your call center by having a machine answer questions to customers upfront seems pretty straightforward, right? You have a model, maybe you work, I don’t know, let’s let’s make something up, you work in banking, and customers have questions about their that your certificates of deposit, you train a model on answering those questions you deploy and boom, it’s out there.

    Now, suppose you have someone like me, I have a I’m of Korean descent.

    I have a Korean name, I have an American name.

    If I’m interacting with your bank’s chatbot, should I receive different treatment by that chatbot based on the name I use? equality of opportunity would suggest that in my conversations with the chatbot.

    We all started the same place and then how the conversation evolves should be dependent on those responses.

    equality of outcome says no matter who you are, you should get the same quality of service.

    You should get the same courtesy get the same answers.

    The machine should not be mansplaining to you, etc, etc.

    Is that really what happens? No.

    Few weeks ago on the Trust Insights podcast, live stream, we did a test with a few different prompts with open AI, with Google bard with anthropoclon two.

    And these were a couple of paragraph prompts in sales and marketing and HR and management.

    And the only word we changed in the prompts was to change the name Larry to Lena.

    The answers we got were different and substantially different.

    In some cases, the there was a lot of what some people refer to as correctile dysfunction, aka mansplaining when you change one of the names to a female identifying name, that should not be happening.

    equality of outcomes just that that should not be happening yet it was.

    So these models have biases in them.

    And in many cases for the way that we want to use large language models and generative AI in general, in the context of business in the context of marketing of customer service, equality of outcome probably should be the standard we should be holding ourselves to which is no matter who you are.

    You know, if you’re Chris, or you’re a mule hole or your Leticia or your Adrian, you should get the same service.

    You should get the same courtesy you should get the same treatment.

    And right now that’s not the case in language models.

    It’s not the case in AI.

    So in other cases, right, when it comes to things like opportunities, applying for a certain type of loan.

    In those cases, there may be factors that are valid, where you cannot have equality of outcome.

    Because rarely are two things identical except for one discerning characteristic.

    And even in those cases, you need to have a an internal counsel for diversity, equity and inclusion to say, Okay, well, what are the thresholds after which we’re going to say, Hey, this model has gone off the rails.

    Because what you don’t want to have happen is a machine that’s just making decisions autonomously, and creating statistical drift.

    And then you wake up one day and you’re in a lawsuit because your loan approval process stopped giving loans to women, right, which can happen.

    If you’re not careful, if you don’t know how to implement, you don’t know how to make a decision about fairness, and then you don’t know how to implement it using artificial intelligence.

    bias and fairness are exceptionally difficult to navigate because we will each have different perspectives on what is and is not fair.

    Your cultures will vary cultures that are more collective in nature, where the good of the many is placed ahead of the good of the few.

    Those are typically cultures in for example, like many Far Eastern cultures, Japan and China and Korea, etc.

    very collectivist cultures, they will have a different perspective on equality of outcome versus equality of opportunity.

    There are hyper individualistic cultures like the United States of America super crazy individualistic fairness will change based on who you’re talking to there.

    So we have to figure out within the context within the circumstances of our businesses of our the culture we operate in what is fair.

    And the key takeaway is no matter what decisions you make, you have to be able to document them, you have to be able to show that you’re doing what you say, and that what you say you do is is legal and moral and ethically correct.

    There is no one answer.

    But there are ways to mitigate your risk by demonstrating here’s how we’ve implemented fairness.

    And people can disagree about that implementation, but at least you can say, hey, we’ve got something and here’s what we’re doing to to adhere to that.

    So really good question.

    Very, very complicated question is a complicated question, it will provoke a lot of very emotional responses.

    And you want to make sure that you do have policies and procedures in place to document fairness and your implementation of it.

    So thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What’s The Difference Between Good and Great Data?

    You Ask, I Answer: What's The Difference Between Good and Great Data?

    In today’s episode, I answer the question, “What is the difference between great data and good data or great data and data?” I explain how data is like the ingredients for cooking. Good data enables quality results, but bad data ruins everything. To find out more about the key role data quality plays in AI, be sure to watch this video!

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, What is the difference between great data and good data or great data and data? And what are the practical applications of AI to that kind of data? That’s an interesting question.

    Think about data like this.

    You’re in your kitchen, you’re getting ready to cook dinner, got your appliances, you’ve got your cookbook, you’ve got your skills.

    And you got data, right, you have ingredients.

    If you are a skilled chef, as long as the ingredients are fundamentally okay, you can make something or you can make a dinner.

    Now the better the ingredients are, the better the dinner you’re going to be able to make if the ingredients are fresh and organic, and this and that chances are you’re going to be probably able to make a pretty nice dinner.

    If the ingredients are rotten, with a few notable exceptions, most rotten food is inedible, most rotten food will make you sick.

    And no matter how good your appliances are, how good your recipes are, how skilled a chef you are, you are still stuck with a creative rotten food, and there’s very little you can do with it.

    It’s not going to make somebody sick.

    So when we talk about data, particularly in the context of AI, that’s the way that I like to think about is data is your ingredients are your raw ingredients for using AI or using anything, even using a basic spreadsheet.

    If your numbers are wrong, even just doing stuff in in a spreadsheet, you’re going to get the wrong answers, you’re gonna get bad answers.

    So you have to create good data or get a hold of good data so that you can use it properly.

    Now, if you have great ingredients, and you have someone who is incompetent in the kitchen, then yeah, even with great ingredients, you’re still not going to get something that’s that’s necessarily all that good, right? You can give someone a Australian Wagyu marbling score seven pecania cut, which is a really, really, really nice piece of beef.

    And if you hand it to the village idiot, who puts it in a blender? Yes, you’ve essentially wasted that ingredient unless you want to beef soup.

    Even that is not gonna be very good beef soup.

    But it’s still technically edible, because the the village idiot didn’t ruin it completely just mostly.

    So your people matter, your processes matter, your platforms matter, but the quality of your data is paramount.

    Because, again, you can give good ingredients to a bad cook and get a not a great result, right? You can give good ingredients to a very talented cook and get a great outcome.

    But nobody’s making anything good out of rotten ingredients.

    Nobody.

    And the same thing is true with AI, with machine learning, data science, etc.

    We are the chefs, our tools are the platforms.

    And our data is the raw materials from which we are going to cook.

    And if they’re bad, what we’re going to produce is bad too.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Different Types of Machine Learning and AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: Different Types of Machine Learning and AI?

    In today’s episode, I explain the three main types of machine learning – regression, classification, and generation. I provide examples of how each one works and how they can be applied by businesses like printers. There’s a ton of valuable info here, so be sure to watch to learn how to leverage AI and ML to improve your operations!

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, Could you share the different types of machine learning and AI that businesses like printers should be aware of and how they can apply to their operations? Okay, so all machine learning and AI falls in three big buckets, three broad categories, regression, classification, and generation and arguably good argued generation is actually a combination of regression and classification.

    But those are the big three.

    At Trust Insights, we use the acronym fog to explain these categories, find, organize and generate.

    regression is when you have a series of numbers and you have an outcome, what mathematical relationships in those numbers do you see to the outcome? So if you have say marketing channels, and you have sales or sales qualified leads, you would use regression to say, Okay, what have all these variables, all this data that I have, has the strongest mathematical relationship to the outcome that I care about.

    And in doing so, I can then say, Well, these things are the most important and the most relevant, or at least the things we should test out.

    So if you did that, and you were looking at Facebook and LinkedIn and tick tock, and, you know, tick tock had the strongest correlation to the outcome you care about, you could then say, Okay, well, tick tock appears to have this relationship.

    Now let’s build a tick tock marketing program, or invest more in it.

    And do we see a increase in the results that tick tock generates commensurate to the investment that we are making.

    So that’s regression.

    And you again, you see this in attribution modeling, you see this in sales modeling, you see it in forecasting of almost any kind, when you’re doing those activities, you’re using regression modeling.

    And certainly for a company like, you know, a printer or a physical goods manufacturer, forecasting and predictive analytics are really important because your your content costs a lot of money to manufacture it costs, you know, real materials, physical, tangible materials.

    And so doing those predictive analytics can help you optimize your spend to focus on what’s going to deliver results.

    Second category is classification.

    This classification is exactly what it sounds like you’re organizing data.

    When you have a big pile of data like social media posts or the contents of your customer service inbox, transcripts from your call center.

    That’s all we call unstructured data.

    And it’s a big pile of lock cases, just a big pile of words.

    When you do classification, you’re going to try and organize all that data.

    What are the highest performing social posts, what are the lowest performing social posts, what are the topics that they’re about, and things you’re not trying to find an outcome.

    You’re just trying to figure out what’s in the box, what kind of sense can you make from your data? And classification, there’s all sorts of things like, you know, K nearest neighbors and clusters and support vector machines and all these different ways to, to classify data.

    But at the end of the day, what you’re trying to do is make sense of the data trying to organize it with things like topic modeling, labeling, clustering, just to just to clean things up to make it workable to make it manageable, in a lot of cases to classify things so you can reduce them from being huge data sets to just large data sets.

    And then you can run other things like regression on the results of that, so that you’re not trying to boil the ocean all at once because some of the most complicated analyses they have a they require a lot of horsepower, they require a lot of compute power.

    And if you are trying to first use up an enormous amount of compute power just to do the first round of feature engineering, you might never get done with your work.

    If you can classify it, you can reduce the dimensionality number of variables there are find patterns in the data and then run the analysis on those patterns, which is a big time saver.

    The third category, of course, is generation the making stuff we’re all familiar with what that does when it comes to again, printers or the physical world, direct mail, things like that.

    Generation is a great set of tools that you can use to, to build creative to build visuals to revamp creative and content.

    Do things like persona analysis and then persona based creative development with language models, you say, Hey, here’s my ideal customer.

    Here’s my sales copy, rewrite my sales copy in a way that will appeal to the the the ideal customer based on their personality or based on that what you know about this industry and these these kinds of people.

    Those are those are really powerful tools.

    And I would say you need to have all three you need to classify your data to organize it.

    You need to use regression to figure out what’s working.

    You need to use regression.

    Also, if you want to train you on a custom train, some stuff along with classification, and then you generate you make stuff with the data you have.

    So really good question.

    There’s a lot to dig in here too.

    There’s a ton of math.

    I think that’s a good place to stop for now.

    So thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How To Vet AI Vendors?

    You Ask, I Answer: How To Vet AI Vendors?

    In today’s episode, I share the top questions marketers should ask AI vendors to avoid getting duped. I explain what to look for in their architecture and abstraction capabilities. Asking the right technical questions helps reveal who’s the real deal. Tune in to get my insider tips on vetting vendors to make informed AI purchasing decisions!

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, you discuss the importance of marketers asking the right questions to vendors, what are the top questions you believe marketers should be posing to AI vendors to ensure they’re making informed decisions? Okay, this is a really good question because a lot of the time marketers don’t necessarily know what to ask vendors, but they know that they’re well, they’re concerned that a vendor is going to try and pull a fast one, right? sell you something that isn’t really theirs, it’s vaporware, or there are less ethical vendors are hoping you just don’t ask tough questions.

    So I tend to ask very technical questions because I want to know the architecture of what’s underneath under the hood, right? I want to know what’s happening on the inside.

    And in a lot of cases with artificial intelligence, especially you don’t need to give away if you’re a vendor, you don’t need to give away the secret sauce, right? But you can tell someone what the architecture is just like, you know, if you go to a can of soda, you can see what the ingredients are, you don’t get the recipe, you don’t know how much of each ingredient there is, or there’s a secret process, but you get the ingredients.

    So if you open up a can of Coca Cola, you’re not getting Coke’s secret recipe, but you are being told here’s the things that are in this thing that can that make it work or not work.

    When it comes to AI, for example, when I’m looking at a company that offers generative AI capabilities, like language generation, I will ask that company, what is your foundation model? Right? And less skilled sales folks will say, Oh, what’s a custom proprietary model that we developed in house and stuff like, yeah, okay.

    What’s the foundation model that you tuned on? Because if you know the generative AI space reasonably well, you know that there’s about five companies on the planet that can put together really good, true foundation models.

    Now, granted is more than but basically, you need a company that has roomfuls of servers and roomfuls of GPUs to build a foundation model and you need months of time to build one of these things.

    Most, most startups, you know, most marketing vendors, they’re not going to have the hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, the people, the server rooms, etc.

    To make a true foundation model and we’re talking about models like GPT for which powers chat GPT and GPT for V, Claude to llama to etc.

    etc.

    The, the big names when it comes to foundation models, these models are huge, they’re huge, they’re complex.

    And there are not that many companies can make a true foundation model.

    Now, yes, you can build a small foundation model on your laptop, right? There’s actually tutorials online, if you want to build the equivalent of like a GPT to you can do that, and it will take you a really long time.

    So when you look at a marketing vendor, a company in the marketing space, they are almost certainly using someone else’s model as their foundation, and then they have custom tuning to that model.

    Now, they may have a private fine tuned model, like you can make inside of open AI, they may have an API, they’re just calling an API to talk to somebody else’s model, they may have what’s called prompt efficient fine tunes, which includes things like Laura’s low rank adapters that essentially are like plugins to a foundation model.

    So you have a foundation model like llama to and you make a plugin called, you know, the Trust Insights plugin, it’s got all of our blog content in there, it’s got all of our email, newsletters and things.

    And it’s been trained on us and you plug it into the foundation model.

    And that then in turn, gives you the ability to specialize, or behind the scenes, these companies may have a vector database where a client’s text goes so that the again, the language model knows what things to say.

    And you might even not have one model, you might have several, you might have an ensemble of models.

    But again, a vendor that doesn’t have anything to hide can explain this right again, there’s no secret sauce being given away.

    You might say, yeah, we have an ensemble of models, you know, three of which are based on the llama to family, one of which is one of open AI is models and we counterbalance across all four models.

    Great.

    That is useful architecture that tells me, you know what you’re talking about, that you that we know what’s behind the scenes was under the hood is the real deal.

    But you haven’t given me any of the secrets or you haven’t told me exactly how your model works.

    You haven’t told me, you know what your prompting looks like, what your data storage looks like.

    And those are all parts that in the final application make a big difference with the user experience and so on and so forth.

    But the truthfulness and willingness of a vendor to answer that question about the foundation model tells me a lot about the vendor, right? A vendor who is cagey or deflecting, that’s a vendor I don’t trust, because they should know what’s under the hood.

    They should, they should be able to say Yeah, we are we use this or that, right? It’s kind of like go to a restaurant and asking who their ingredient supplier is or is there gluten in this food? And we’re not asking for the recipe.

    We’re asking for the chef to come out and explain step by step exactly how it’s made.

    We’re just asking, Hey, what’s in this thing so that we know whether or not it’s safe to eat? Especially when it comes to generative AI, the second question I asked is about abstraction.

    So abstraction means you have the ability to take a model and swap it out with a different model, right? vendors who tie their entire business to a model they picked at a specific period in time, they put themselves and their customers at risk, at risk of being underperforming being out of date, new models and particularly new foundation models come out all the time.

    If you were building your company two years ago and the state of the art at the time was opening eyes GPT three, and you just built everything around that you hard coded in and you’re really proud of this application.

    Well, since then, GPT three has been superseded by GPT 3.5 GPT 3.5 turbo GPT 3.5 turbo 16k GPT four GPT four V and you’re now like five generations behind the the current up to date foundation models.

    Right? If you have done a good job of building an abstraction layer into your software, then as circumstances change, you can say to the customer, Hey, do you want to use GPT four V for this? Do you want to use Claude to for this? Do you want to use llama to for this? That abstraction if you thought through in your product means giving customers choice.

    And those choices can sometimes be very beneficial for customers, your customer who gets a lot of choice in the models they’re allowed to pick, they can, they can choose a model maybe on cost GPT four V is a costly model to run llama to is a relatively inexpensive model to run and depending on the task and maybe your software if it’s very clever can even recommend Hey, for this task, it looks like, you know, llama to is the best choice for you.

    That’s those are the questions that I ask AI vendors when I’m having a conversation with them to build the ability to just say like, Hey, what’s in the box? Explain your architecture explain your decisions and the choices you’ve made.

    So that I understand how far along you are in your own AI journey.

    And I can make good purchasing decisions based on the way you’ve got your system set up.

    And so that those are my questions.

    Those are my answers to those questions.

    So what I look for and you know, there may be other considerations.

    There may be considerations like price or data privacy and stuff.

    So this is by no means an exhaustive list of the questions to ask.

    These are just the ones that I look for.

    Because it helps me judge very quickly whether or not someone is the real deal.

    So really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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    This past week, I had the pleasure and the privilege of speaking at the MarketingProfs B2B Forum in Boston, Massachusetts. One of the questions that consistently comes up time and time again when I’m doing my talk about artificial intelligence is how to get started using artificial intelligence, how to pilot an AI project. So today let’s look at the three-step process for piloting an AI project at your company, organization, or team.

    Step 1: Understand The Use Case Matrix

    The first part of developing a pilot project for AI is having an idea of even what kinds of tasks you’d want AI help with. You can’t undertake a pilot successfully if it’s solving a problem no one has; solutions in search of a problem never go well. So let’s start here, with the Use Case Matrix:

    The Trust Insights Use Case Matrix

    What have here is a straightforward matrix with two axes – internal vs external, and innovation vs optimization. First, internal vs external: for any given task, is it internal or external, meaning within your organization or customer-facing? This is an important consideration because, at least when it comes to AI, customer-facing tasks tend to be higher priority and the aversion to risk is (sensibly) higher.

    Second, innovation vs optimization: for any given task, is the task one in which you want to make incremental optimizations, or something net new? For example, if you’re an insurance company, a large language model that can answer customer questions would be innovation; a large language model to scan in claims and categorize them for speeding up claim prioritization would be an optimization.

    Think through all the problems that your company is facing right now, and see where they fit in. For example, the other week, Katie and I were discussing some shortcomings in Hubspot’s built-in reporting. I used ChatGPT’s code generation capabilities to write new code that performed the reporting tasks exactly the way we wanted them done. That is an example of an optimization that’s internal. Customers won’t see it, and it’s not breaking new ground, but it does make an existing internal process much better.

    Sit down with your stakeholders and jot down all the processes which are problems you face with your company onto this 2×2 matrix so that you can start to assess which ones AI could help you with.

    Step 2: Understanding The Use Cases

    One of the challenges of artificial intelligence, particularly generative AI, is that generative AI uses language and imagery. In turn, that means any task which uses language and imagery could potentially be a task suited for generative AI. Think about it for a moment. Can you name a single function in your company that does not use language or imagery as part of the core tasks that you perform? I certainly can’t.

    So a part of the challenge of determining where to pilot AI is to look at the categories of use cases for generative AI. I break them up into six broad categories: generation, extraction, summarization, rewriting, classification, and question answering. Let’s talk through these relatively quickly.

    Trust Insights Use Cases of Generative AI

    Generation is very straightforward. Everyone understands generation; write me a blog post, write me an email, create an image of a dog on a skateboard – generation is intuitive for us and doesn’t require a lot of explanation.

    Extraction is the process of taking data out of provided data. For example, if I give a generative AI system a PDF that has some tables in it, I can use large language models to extract those tables from the PDF and convert them into a CSV file for Microsoft Excel.

    Summarization is when we take big text and turn it into small text. Take a transcript from a conference call and extract out the meeting notes and action items, take a long YouTube video and convert into a bullet point summary, etc. We summarize things all the time and language models are capable of summarizing things quickly, and very capably.

    Rewriting is equally straightforward. Take this English language paragraph and rewrite it in Swahili, explain the concept of quantum superposition in terms of pizza, convert this profanity-laced diatribe into a professional memo – that’s rewriting.

    Classification is when we apply language models to understanding a body of text and what categories it fits into. Think about a pile of blog posts from your company blog; a large language model could automatically assign topics and categories for every post so you wouldn’t have to do that manually.

    Finally, question answering is when we ask language models questions from a body of knowledge we want answers to. For example, imagine loading up an RFP response to a language model and then asking it the five conditions you care about most, and whether or not the RFP meets those conditions. That’s question answering.

    Once we understand the core use case categories, we can examine all the ways we’d like to apply AI and see if the tasks which make up our use case fit in these categories or not. This is an essential step because it helps us to understand whether generative AI is the right fit or not; if a task doesn’t fit in one of these six use case categories, either you haven’t broken down the task enough into its component tasks, or you have a task that isn’t suited for generative AI.

    So you would take the results of your 2×2 Use Case Matrix, and then tag each of the tasks with one of the six use case categories. If a task doesn’t fit into a use case category, then AI probably isn’t the right choice and it should be removed from the matrix.

    Step 3: Applying User Stories

    Once you’ve laid out your use cases from your matrix and tagged each use case with which of the six use case categories are the best fit, the final step is to assess priority. Assessing priority isn’t just a gut feeling; we want to clearly articulate the use case’s solution so that the priority becomes evident. We do this through user stories.

    Here’s the basic template for a user story:

    As a {role} I need to {task} so that {result}.

    In the example above, Katie’s user story would be:

    As a CEO, I need to know what prospects in our Hubspot CRM haven’t interacted with us in 30 days so that I can commission an outreach process for reactivating prospects to increase the sales pipeline.

    In this user story, it’s clear what the ask is, what the outcome is, and how the outcome matters to the company. This use case is all about revenue generation, and it would be wise for us to prioritize if it we want more sales pipeline.

    Your next step would be to write out clear user stories for each of the tasks in the Use Case Matrix, as clearly as the one above. We want that clarity so that we can prioritize and organize all the ways we COULD use AI into a coherent list of what we SHOULD use AI to accomplish.

    The final step in this example would be for the stakeholders to review all the user stories in detail and decide, based on what those stories focus on, which tasks you should pilot AI with first. If you follow these steps, you’re much more likely to see positive and meaningful results from generative AI than if you just wing it or create solutions in search of a problem.

    And shameless plug, my company, Trust Insights, does exactly this kind of evaluation for companies. From basic strategic consultation to workshops to having us sitting in the room with you, guiding you through more advanced versions of this exercises, if you want help with this, let us know.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact Direct Mail?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact Direct Mail?

    In today’s episode, I discuss how AI can make direct mail more effective. AI image generators create compelling, impossible visuals for printed materials. AI algorithms help target the right audiences so expensive physical mail only goes to likely buyers. Join me to explore the two ways artificial intelligence enhances direct mail results.

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, you mentioned that direct mail could become more valuable due to artificial intelligence.

    Could you elaborate on this? How could AI enhance the effectiveness and ROI of things like direct mail and print? So there’s two different aspects at work here two different ways that this can happen first.

    In particular for printed items, generative AI, especially diffusers, image generators.

    These things can create visuals that are incredibly eye catching incredibly compelling.

    When you look at some of the stuff that comes out of Dolly or mid journey or stable diffusion or any of these systems, you look at them and go, that is incredible.

    There are ideas that you can bring to life that are prohibitively expensive, if not physically impossible to create right now.

    Moonlit moonscape with a science fiction city and spaceships flying by like, yeah, you can hire a designer to do all that 3d work and stuff where you can have a machine, create that and then put it into a physical publication into a print publication.

    You know, you have think about the the time and expense of doing a photo shoot for cover of a magazine.

    And then imagine what it would look like to generate the same thing with today’s models.

    Today’s image generation models are they are so difficult to tell apart from reality when you choose to make them photorealistic.

    They have largely solved things like how many fingers does this person have right? It’s sort of the ongoing joke about diffuses that they just can’t get hands and fingers right.

    They’re much, much better now.

    Even that from six months ago, the quality they generate is incredible.

    So we have all these images that we use that, in all honesty, they’re kind of stock commodities, right? If you think about the cover of something like Better Homes and Gardens, it’s a garden as a garden there with a chair and some flowers and stuff like that.

    Or it’s a kitchen with something, you know, someone cooking something that is commodity content that can be generated by machine and be just as good as the real thing.

    And less expensive, less work to do faster to iterate.

    And you can again do things that might not be possible, or might not be within your budget.

    And if I wanted to have a a book cover made for an AI book.

    In fact, I did this recently with my woefully incomplete book of generative AI.

    I wanted a pizza box with one slice of pizza left in it because I do a lot of pizza analogies.

    I use generative AI to make that book cover and it looks good.

    Is it perfect? No.

    Can you tell it’s a made by AI sure can.

    Is it good enough? Yes.

    Is it? Did I have to stage it and buy a pizza? No, I didn’t.

    I didn’t have to go to all that work.

    Now, to be clear, we don’t necessarily want to rely solely on these technologies and have dramatic negative consequences on the economy, right.

    But I was for my book cover.

    I’m not taking work away from anyone.

    I would have done something myself anyway.

    So just use AI instead.

    So I got higher quality and more of what I wanted.

    And it didn’t change the economics of it.

    Could I have hired a designer to but to do my book cover? Sure, I could have.

    Did I have I have only done that once and it didn’t really make a big difference.

    So in that instance, AI was a great solution.

    It was fast.

    It was easy.

    It was inexpensive, and it made a great piece of art that I could use for that.

    So that’s the first aspect.

    The second aspect of how AI can be used to enhance the value of a print industry is using classical AI.

    So remember, there’s three branches of artificial intelligence, regression, classification and generation, and generation really is a mash up of regression and classification.

    Regression is hey, here’s a bunch of data and an outcome what data corresponds to this outcome.

    classification is hey, I’ve got a bunch of data organized it so that I can see what the commonalities are.

    And those are those are very common, but we don’t pay much attention to them.

    And we should regression algorithms in particular you see in things like attribution modeling.

    And in the direct mail and print industry, I am constantly astonished how many people do not a great job of attribution for their direct mail pieces, right? When you get a piece of direct mail, there’s no customization, there’s no tracking, there’s no, there’s no thought given to how to measure its effectiveness when it’s not hard to do.

    If I have a mailer going up from my website, trust insights.ai.

    I could just put the URL there.

    Or I could put trust insights.ai slash mail 23 and set up custom tracking codes in that redirect that send people to the right place, but allow me to track it properly and intelligently.

    And again, so many marketers just don’t do this.

    So many marketers just skimp on the tracking, they skimp on the, the analytics, and they lose out.

    And then they can’t tell what’s working.

    Having that data helps you prove what’s working where your money went.

    So using regression and classification algorithms with customer data, doing things like assembling cohorts, identifying members of your database, the most likely to convert the most likely to convert from print, right? If you know, you if you have the data, you know who’s going to do what you can then do the attribution, I’ll say this is who converts from print, versus who converts from other channels, you’ve just got to have the data in there.

    So those are kind of the two main avenues, you can use artificial intelligence to improve the effectiveness and efficiency of your marketing, don’t send, for example, direct mail, which is costly to send, because it requires physical resources compared to email, don’t send high cost high value messages to people who are not likely to buy.

    That’s, that’s pretty straightforward.

    But again, most people don’t do that.

    And second, using the technology to to generate new stuff to make stuff that otherwise would be out of reach, particularly if your brand doesn’t have a ton of money.

    If you trust insights, we don’t spend millions of dollars a year on marketing.

    And so anything that gets us results that punch above their weight, right results that look more expensive than they than they actually are.

    That’s a good thing.

    That’s an advantage.

    That is a strategic advantage for any company, but especially companies that are not as resource rich as their larger competitors.

    So that’s the answer to the question.

    Thank you for the question.

    And I’ll talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Print Companies in the Digital Age?

    You Ask, I Answer: Advice for Print Companies in the Digital Age?

    In today’s episode, I look at how print and direct mail can capture attention in our increasingly digital world. As inboxes overflow with emails and DMs, tangible mail stands out as something scarce. Well-designed, highly targeted print publications connect with audiences in a tangible, memorable way. Join me as I explore the unique value print companies can offer brands in the digital age.

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks, What advice do you have for partners like print companies to offer more value to brand owners? How do they stay relevant? Print is an interesting industry.

    Because for a long time, people have regarded as slow, inefficient, very costly, environmentally damaging and out of step with the modern world, right? We’re all on these devices all the time we’re running around, connected, we’ve got companies saying, Hey, now we’re gonna slap a pair of goggles on your face and, and so on and so forth.

    And yet, print and direct mail in particular, print has a unique opportunity in the current environment, it is different.

    It is it is different and it is scarce.

    Take a moment and think about the contents of your postal inbox, the mailbox where physical mail gets dropped off at your house.

    What’s in it? Some bills, maybe even that kind of going away because paperless billing saves time and money for a lot of folks.

    Maybe some local flyers, maybe one of the folks who still still subscribes to like a paper newspaper, but not much.

    It’s a pretty empty place these days.

    Now, think about your digital inboxes, right? Not your not just your email inbox, but your DMs on Instagram and Facebook and LinkedIn and tick tock and Twitter, and so on and so on and so on.

    So there’s so many mail boxes, they’re all full, they’re bursting at the seams.

    That’s what there’s a lot of messaging.

    What happens when we are swamped by messaging, we ignore it, right? Mark, all is read, archive this delete inbox zero.

    We are our tension in our electronic inboxes is scattered at best.

    And again, it’s across all these different systems.

    That’s even harder to figure out as to where should I be paying attention.

    And that’s why print is an interesting opportunity because when when you get something that is is physical is tangible, it’s different, right? Take a book like everybody writes a J bears new, the time to win, right? These are print publications, a they work without the internet, right? They work really well on things like planes, power outages and stuff.

    And, you know, this is I think J’s is really, really powerful and clever because it’s so small, right? It’s, it’s valuable.

    It’s it’s a good read.

    I don’t like the font inside, but that’s just my personal preferences.

    But this is print, right? This is could even be direct mail, you could mail somebody these books and Jay hands out a pack of three one for you one for someone you work with and one to give away.

    This is different.

    This is scarce, right? This is tangible in ways that that electronic communications are not this is durable.

    When I turn off my computer, all my inboxes go off to I when I turn off the lights, this book still exists, I can’t read it anymore.

    But it still exists, right? It’s still there.

    And it’s this scarcity.

    It is this, this tangibility, this fungibility that is so interesting.

    It stands out.

    More and more and more of our lives are becoming digital every single day.

    Right? We now have conversations with AI, for example.

    So even our conversations are becoming digital in some ways.

    So as things go more digital as more companies say, hey, let’s save money by pushing our communications into into digital format.

    What’s tangible becomes more scarce and therefore more noticeable.

    When someone hands you one of these go, huh? That’s different.

    I hand you another email, you can go is that different? Nope.

    Now, this does not mean a return to sending out piles of crap junk mail, right? Nobody wants that either.

    But if you took a high quality publication in tangible format and digital format, and handed it out to people who would be interested in receiving it, I would wager I can’t prove this, but I would wager that the tangible version would at least be remembered.

    Because it’s different.

    It stands out.

    It’s scarce.

    So we’re talking about print publications that are highly tailored, highly focused because this stuff is expensive, right? These things are not cheap.

    But think about books, glossy magazines, mailers that are truly innovative and creative.

    You got to watch your budget because again, the tangible things cost more because they they need to be made.

    Right? They’re not just piles of electrons.

    But when you reach the right people in your audience, it makes a difference.

    When you reach the right people in your audience.

    People show this off, right? Think about your favorite streamers on Twitch or YouTube or Instagram, when they’re when they’re doing live streams.

    What was the last time you had one of them hold up like a tabloid to the screeches? Hey, look at this amazing email I got.

    I’ve never seen that.

    Certainly not in the business of consumer streams.

    But do people hold up physical goods that they’ve received? Sure do.

    They sure do.

    People love tangible items to show off they can show this off.

    You can’t do that with a digital good nearly as easily.

    Yeah, I could hold up your iPad and like, hey, here’s this thing I got.

    But the physical tangible goods are are powerful because we we instinctively as as animals recognize this is a thing that I can pick up and hold I can smell it.

    It’s real in a way that digital communications are not.

    So that is the opportunity for print companies for manufacturers for 3d printers, all these things.

    That’s, that’s how they provide brand value and how they stay relevant by helping brands realize what is scarce, where attention is, is rich, but there’s not a lot of competition, and then going to those places and bringing physical goods to those places.

    So it’s a good question.

    Thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Generative AI Will Reshape Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Generative AI Will Reshape Marketing?

    In today’s episode, I look at how AI will reshape marketing as it transforms language and imagery. With its skill for generating content, AI brings unlimited scaling to communicate and persuade. For analytics, AI coding workarounds compensate for poor math skills with excellent language abilities. Join me as we explore the huge potential of AI to truly personalize the customer journey.

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    In today’s episode, Mark asks in your perspective, how do you foresee AI reshaping the future of marketing, especially in areas like content marketing, customer journey, mapping and analytics? This is always a challenging question.

    I get for literally every professional discipline, how is going to reshape finance and HR and sales and marketing, etc, etc.

    And the reason is challenging is because of the nature of generative AI, because of the nature of things like diffusers and transformers.

    These, these tools are based on things like language and imagery.

    Look at your own profession.

    What percentage of your tasks every day are image based, or language based? When you think about that, when you think about the customer journey, for example, as a real simple example, how much of the customer journey is impacted by my language, all of it, the whole thing.

    At no point in the customer journey, do you communicate with anybody as a customer who in some way is not using language, right? Except maybe like music videos, right? Where there’s no words is just music and a video.

    But that’s pretty rare.

    Most of the time, we’re communicating with language, and we are sending emails, we are in online chat, we’re in face to face meetings, we are in zoom calls, we’re using language all the time.

    And because we’re using language all the time, it can be very challenging then to say like, well, what is what is generative AI not going to impact? If it uses language, a large language model can impact it, it can change it, it can alter it.

    Today’s language models can generate very, very skillful language, right? That’s a great way of saying they are skillful at language, they can write content that can inform that can persuade that can convert, and they can do it at scale at scale that we can’t match as humans.

    We are not as fast.

    We are not as prolific.

    And we’re limited by our physical selves, right? I can sit down my keyboard and write and if I’m super caffeinated, whatever, I can write a whole bunch.

    But I can’t clone myself.

    I can’t spin up another version of Chris and write some more stuff.

    Machines can machines can do that machines can spin up another version or versions of themselves and just go and go and go.

    And so if you have a model to maybe trained on how you write, that’s very likely to be a very successful way to generate a lot of content, a lot of language.

    If you have a chat bot, that chat bot can handle as many customers as you have compute power for.

    You can’t hire that many people.

    If you’re a big company, you can’t hire that many people to cover what a language model could do in your call center.

    When we talk about things like analytics, machines are large language models are bad at math.

    They’re really bad at math.

    But what they’re not bad at is language.

    They’re very good at language.

    And what we’re seeing now, particularly with tools like chat GPT is advanced data analysis feature is that they know they’re not good at math, but they’re good at language.

    And so they can write in language aka code to have the code do the math, right.

    So that’s sort of the workaround that these tools have discovered is they can create code in Python or R or the language of your choice, execute that code.

    And get math solutions that they know they can’t solve.

    And so we’re seeing tremendous usage of these advanced data analysis features in chat GPT to process data to look for anomalies in our data to to create algorithms and analyses that maybe we can’t do or we certainly can’t do fast enough.

    The other day, I trust insights Katie and I have been working on trying to get reporting out of HubSpot for quite some time, right, we’re not paying the premier, like most expensive fee.

    And so there’s a lot of stuff that in the interface isn’t available.

    But there’s certain it’s in the API.

    And so what we’ve been doing for a while is just trying to write the code necessary to basically build our own version of the reporting.

    It was taking a really long time.

    The other day, thanks to the GPT form model, and me knowing what I wanted it to do knowing what I wanted to ask it.

    I knocked out like eight major reporting tasks that previously were going to take me four to eight hours at a time to do I got all eight done in a day, because the tools generate the language needed to make things happen.

    And the last way that for marketing is going to be huge is true, actual personalization.

    We have been giving lip service to personalization for 20 years, right? We’ve all gotten the email saying, you know, hi, for F name or high first name.

    And the reality is, we don’t have the human scale to personalize not beyond real basic stuff, right? Hey, here’s a here’s an email creator for this segment or this persona in our database.

    It’s not personalized, right? It’s it’s cohort based.

    And yes, that can improve things.

    Certainly, if you are someone who maybe you’re, you’re black, or you’re female, or you’re queer, or whatever, and you get communications that are at least addressing your segment of the market, it feels more personalized than Hey, F name, but it’s still not actually personalized because it’s not a one to one communication, except in the most personal businesses, right? When you go to the local diner, and the server recognizes you as a Bob, good to see you again.

    That’s sort of the dream that marketers have had for personalization that is just not coming true.

    But AI gives us that ability.

    AI has the ability to with enough scale with enough compute power to do real personalization have a language model that remembers who you are that can pull your customer data record up and talk to you as you the person, not the customer cohort, not the group of the category, but but you.

    It’s still very early days that a lot of companies have not figured out how to do that well, or at all yet.

    But the potential is there.

    The potential is there for you to log on to a chatbot on a company’s website, and have that chatbot say, Hey, Chris, it’s great to see you again.

    Last time we talked, you were thinking about this new microphone system.

    Are you still thinking about it? Because there’s other one that’s coming out now that maybe you might like better.

    Or, hey, I remember you’re having that tech support issue to get resolved because if not, it might be easier just to buy a new thing, right? You can imagine that level of personalization in our marketing.

    That’s where this stuff can go.

    If we let it if we are careful about it, if we are thoughtful about it, and we are willing to do the experimentation to make it happen.

    That’s the potential that we see in these systems.

    So really good question.

    Challenging question.

    There is no place where language or images are not used that generative AI cannot provide serious transformative capabilities.

    So thanks for watching.

    Talk to you next time.

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