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  • You Ask, I Answer: Narcissism as a Success Trait?

    You Ask, I Answer: Narcissism as a Success Trait?

    In this episode, Christopher Penn discusses the best ways to gauge how well you are serving your clients. He suggests asking for feedback through routine surveys and Net Promoter Score questions to understand client satisfaction. Additionally, monitoring activity levels and using anomaly detection software to identify changes in communication frequency can help catch potential issues early. Christopher emphasizes the importance of a feedback-driven culture and grading your clients to better allocate resources and attention. Time tracking systems are also a useful tool in client service management. Watch the video for more insights on how to do a good job for your clients and team.

    Per the DSM, NPD includes:

    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and with lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood, as indicated by at least five of the following:

    • Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements, expects to be recognized as superior without actually completing the achievements)
    • Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty, or perfect love.
    • Believes that they are “special” and can only be understood by or should only associate with other special people (or institutions).
    • Requires excessive admiration.
    • Has a sense of entitlement, such as an unreasonable expectation of favorable treatment or compliance with his or her expectations).
    • Is exploitative and takes advantage of others to achieve their own ends.
    • Lacks empathy and is unwilling to identify with the needs of others.
    • Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them.
    • Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors and attitudes
    You Ask, I Answer: Narcissism as a Success Trait?
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    In today’s episode, Dave asks the very interesting question, is there any truth to the idea that successful people are inherently narcissistic? Okay, so, to answer this question, we first should probably define what that means.

    The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health, which is now in its fifth edition, the DSM five clearly defines narcissism as part of narcissistic personality disorder.

    And what does that mean? What is it what is? What is that narcissism? Let’s look at the definition it says, a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, fantasy or behavior, need for admiration, and with lack of empathy beginning by early adulthood, as indicated by at least five of the following.

    Now I should also disclose, before we go on, I am not a mental health professional at all.

    If you’re dealing with a situation or a person, for whom you have responsibility, you should be helping them receive qualified Treatment Treatment from a qualified health care practitioner.

    Some dude on the internet with a podcast or a YouTube channel is not a qualified healthcare practitioner, I have no medical degree whatsoever.

    This is not medical advice.

    And you should absolutely seek the care of a qualified medical mental health care practitioner.

    If you are someone that you have responsibility for you care about, maybe encountering the challenges that come from any kind of personality disorder.

    So with that disclaimer out of the way, narcissistic personality disorder according to the DSM five is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity need for admiration with a lack of empathy beginning by early adulthood as indicated by at least five of the following has a grandiose sense of self importance, eg exaggerations achievements expects to be recognized as superior without actually completing achievements to is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty or perfect love.

    Three believes that they are special and can only be understood by or should only associate with other people or other special people or institutions.

    Four requires excessive admiration.

    Five has a sense of entitlement such as an unreasonable expectation of favorable treatment or compliance with his or her expectations.

    Six is exploitative and takes advantage of others to achieve their own ends.

    Seven lacks empathy and is unwilling to identify with the needs of others.

    Eight is often envious of others or believe that others are envious of them.

    And nine shows arrogant haughty behaviors and attitudes.

    Now remember, according to the DSM, you need at least five of those to qualify for a narcissistic personality disorder.

    are successful people inherently narcissistic.

    Maybe, I think there’s a lot of variety.

    And and the challenge to answering this question is twofold.

    One, what defines a successful person? Right? What do you define as success? Are we talking financial success, political power, influence, happy? Are people who are deliriously happy? Are they successful? There’s the old Bob Dylan, quote, a man wakes up in the morning goes to bed in the evening and does whatever he wants in between that success.

    So what do you define a success? If we adopt the culturally common model that someone who is financially successful is a success, right? They have acquired a lot of money or property or things like that, or are in a position of significant power.

    Maybe they’re a government official of some kind, then do these, these nine traits co occur? Again, it’s kind of a mixed bag, because all of these traits exist in all of us to some degree.

    Right? And this is the this is the challenge and why we need to consult with qualified healthcare practitioners, because we have all of these things inside ourselves.

    These are part of the normal human experience.

    It is only when they are out of balance or exaggerated.

    Or the definition I tend to use personally is when they impair your ability to accomplish what you want to accomplish.

    Do they become a problem, right? Everyone has been at a point where they’ve wanted admiration, right, perhaps success or not.

    Everyone has believed at one point or another in their lives that they were special, you know, maybe it was written you’re very young.

    And you had a caring parent or a good caregiver.

    Maybe it was as an adult when you found that special romantic partner that made you feel special.

    Everyone has had some kind of fantasy of six SaaS by whatever metric of success, you choose money, beauty, love, power, you had that fantasy of the I really want this life to be this way.

    The problem is when that impairs your ability to work with others.

    And I think one of the key Defining Principles here in the definition is lack of empathy.

    Right? When you lack empathy, when you don’t understand what your behaviors and things are due to other people, what affects you have what affects you cause? Right? If you don’t understand based causality, then it becomes a problem.

    Our successful people, financially successful people, powerful people, do they have these traits in disordered ways.

    Certainly, the people who are very publicly successful, can have these and we’ve seen no shortage of examples of famous entertainers, famous politicians, things who have very clearly checked off a number of the items on this list.

    Right, and in ways that impair their relationships with others in ways that can make them dangerous people to be around.

    But is not the way Dave’s question, this phrase here implies that you need to have some level of narcissism to be successful.

    Again, by this definition of having that need for adversary admiration, and lacking empathy, I would say no, no, in fact, the lack of empathy at least these days, gets you in trouble.

    Right, it can impair your success rather than promote it, there is there is for sure.

    A cultural bias towards people who come across as very confident, who come across as very important, self important, perhaps, who have a very high opinion of themselves.

    People like other people that have confidence people like other people who can inspire that sense of confidence in themselves.

    And so there is that bias, but that lack of empathy is a major stumbling block, because you if you lack empathy, or a system for, for managing that lack of empathy, if you don’t, if you are not a purely empathic, empathetic person, you need a system in place to help you guide you when when you run into situations where you’re not sure what to do.

    People lose trust in you very quickly, right, because they get the sense that you don’t really understand them, that you’re not looking out for them, and that you don’t actually care about them.

    And that can be very problematic for being successful, because the reality is in, in today’s world, especially, you need other people to succeed.

    Much as it would be nice to entertain the fantasy that that you pulled yourself up by your bootstraps, and you did it all by yourself.

    The reality is, that’s not true for anyone, because at the very least, you have to make money and people, other people have to give you that money.

    I mean, unless you’re out there robbing banks, there, you need other people to cooperate with you in order to get money from them.

    So there is some level of empathy required for that.

    Now, someone who has traits of narcissism does not necessarily have narcissistic personality disorder.

    Again, this is part of the human experience.

    So I’d be very cautious in even using the term narcissism.

    Particularly when you’re talking about judging someone else’s success, be very cautious about that, because it’s not.

    Again, it’s something that I would not tackle myself, I would say, let’s leave that to some mental health professionals to make those decisions.

    But you absolutely do know when you’re dealing with somebody who has a lack of empathy, and that somebody you probably probably doesn’t feel great to do business with them.

    It probably doesn’t feel great to, to talk to them, to go out to coffee with them and things like that.

    So I would say the opposite is true, that successful people generally

    do not lack empathy, at least people who are sustainably successful who have been successful for a long period of time and you know, didn’t accidentally get rich quick or inherit a whole bunch of money or things like that.

    People who have been successful for long period of time.

    Probably have a good have empathy they that’s not to say they don’t have egos, but they probably have a good enough amount of empathy, that they would not be considered narcissistic.

    Thanks for the very interesting question again, I am not a mental health care practitioner.

    So if you are someone you have responsibility for is running into challenges in life because of things like narcissistic personality disorders, please see a qualified professional to get the care that they need.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    We’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Doing a Good Job For Clients?

    You Ask, I Answer: Doing a Good Job For Clients?

    In this episode, Christopher Penn discusses the best ways to gauge how well you are serving your clients. He suggests asking for feedback through routine surveys and Net Promoter Score questions to understand client satisfaction. Additionally, monitoring activity levels and using anomaly detection software to identify changes in communication frequency can help catch potential issues early. Christopher emphasizes the importance of a feedback-driven culture and grading your clients to better allocate resources and attention. Time tracking systems are also a useful tool in client service management. Watch the video for more insights on how to do a good job for your clients and team.

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    In this episode, Jill asks, How do you know you’re doing a good job for your clients? Ask them.

    That’s, that’s the easiest way to do it.

    Ask your clients, how are we doing? It? One of the things that good client services managers do is asked their clients, Hey, how are things going? And there are no shortage of systems available that can automate parts of this sending out routine surveys asking people simple questions like How satisfied are you with the services he received? Do you feel like you’re getting your money’s worth? And of course, the most famous ones, the Net Promoter Score questions, how likely are you to recommend your company, you know, how likely are you to recommend Trust Insights to a friend or a colleague in the next 90 days? Those questions and those scores all help you understand and triangulate.

    Whether you’re doing a good job for your clients, or not, just like using something like an NPS score, like a survey, email surveys and things, polls, questions, all those should be collecting data about your client relationships.

    And that’s the best way to gather that data.

    So that you can analyze it on a regular and frequent basis and say, Okay, here’s the the scoring methodology we use to determine whether a client is happy with us or not.

    Likewise, your CRM system should be collecting this information, your CRM system should be logging your interfaces with your clients, your email interactions, and things.

    And this is a case where you can use some basic automation to help determine whether a client account is in trouble or not, let’s say on any given week, you interact with the client by email 25 times, suppose for maybe a week or two weeks or three weeks, that drops to 10.

    Right at that point, anomaly detection software within your system, either built in or third party should raise his hand and say, hey, you know, communication has dropped off here.

    66% Somebody go check this out, somebody go see what’s going on.

    Maybe the client, you know, the your point of contact took off for a month to go backpacking around Europe, then that would be it would be understandable.

    If that change, maybe you have a new point of contact, and that new point of contact just isn’t as responsive.

    You want to know that.

    Likewise, if you’d have normally 25 contacts with the client, we can that spikes to 50 or to 75, you can ask and say, Hey, what’s going on here? If you’re managing the overall relationship, is there something new happening? Is a new point of contact? Is there a crisis at the client that we need to be paying closer attention to? Our Are we out of scope, are we doing stuff that is is not within the responsibilities that we’ve agreed to all of those numerical anomaly detection mechanisms are really important for good client management.

    And the unfortunate part is that for a lot of software and a lot of systems, they’re not really programmed to tell you that, you know, if you go into Hubspot, or Salesforce or the CRM of your choice, you will often find that there is no anomaly detection for things like contact frequency, and there really should be, so that, you know, hey, something’s up here.

    So those are really the two gold standard mechanisms.

    You look at the activity levels around your clients, to see if there’s any anomalies.

    And then you look at the feedback that you get directly from your clients when you ask them, How are we doing.

    And if you don’t ask people how you are doing, now is a good time to start.

    Now is a good time to adopt that practice, because it will help you detect and repair problems sooner rather than later.

    At the old agency that I used to work at client surveys were sent out once a year.

    And when I asked her why are we collecting more data than this, I was told that there were some people on the team who didn’t want to hear bad news from the clients.

    I’m like, Well, you can either hear the bad news sooner when it’s less bad.

    Or you can hear the really bad news when the client just fires you.

    And it’s no surprise that certain folks on the team their clients churned faster because they didn’t want to hear the bad news.

    So part of client management and client feedback is also having a culture where feedback is encouraged, where feedback is not penalize and where you have a solutions oriented culture to say hey, this client is unhappy, what can we do to make them happier? within the boundaries of the scope at a different place I used to work at there was a an unfortunate tendency to do a lot of scope creep.

    So if a client was unhappy, you would go well above me on what was defined in the scope of work to try and keep that client happy, there’s a time and a place for that.

    But it comes at the expense of your team.

    And as we all know, from the past few years, replacing your team is a lot harder than replacing a client for good or ill clients come and go all the time.

    retaining good team members, is a substantially more difficult challenge.

    So you do want to make sure that you’re balancing, doing a good job for your clients, and doing a good job for your team.

    I would say if you wanted to clarify that statement, how do you know you’re doing a good job for your good clients? And how do you know that you’re serving the clients that adhere to the scope of work that are our equal partners in your business relationship that are respectful, that are professional things, they pay their bills on time, for example, all those would, should go into that definition of a good client.

    So that’s my answer numbers to look for activity changes.

    And then the qualitative feedback that you get that says, Yes, this client relationship is in good condition, or this client relationship is not in good condition.

    And if you have clients, well, let’s put it this way, you should think about grading your clients, right, just as you get feedback from your clients, you should be giving feedback to your management team, to your executive team, to your your key stakeholders to say, You know what, this client here, they suck, they are not worth it, they’re there, the juice is not worth the squeeze for that one.

    As soon as we can, let’s replace that revenue and throw them overboard.

    This client is awesome.

    They pay the bills on time, they’re polite, their meetings run on time, they take action on the stuff that we give them, they’re clear in their direction.

    Let’s make sure that they get treated well.

    Right, that they are first in line for new features, they are first in line for news from the company, they are first in line for any kind of discount.

    Feedback in general is essential.

    So do a good job for your good clients, do a good job for your good team members, and balance all that carefully by looking at the numbers by looking at the metrics.

    And that’s why things like time tracking systems when you use them properly, are a really good idea, a really good management tool for keeping a client and your team on the rails.

    But good question.

    It’s a very, very tough question.

    I mean, it’s an entire profession of client service management, but that’s those are the measures that I look at.

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  • Mind Readings: Paid Services That Should Be Included

    Mind Readings: Paid Services That Should Be Included

    In this video, Christopher Penn discusses the new trend of public social networks and SaaS based services offering more paid services to generate revenue. He questions the companies’ motivation for moving security behind a paywall and notes that it may compromise data security for non-paying customers. The video suggests exploring alternative social media platforms like Mastodon, Slack, Telegram, and Discord, where the revenue model is clear and basic account security is built-in. The video serves as a warning to consumers to be cautious of public social media companies that are primarily focused on making money from their users.

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    In this episode, let’s talk about a different and new phenomenon that we’re seeing with public social networks and with other SAS based services.

    So you may have seen recently in the in both on Facebook and on Twitter that these companies are now starting to offer more paid services or more things included with paid memberships that come across as kind of, kind of almost not scammy, but definitely poorly thought out.

    So this past week, Twitter started sending notices to people who have two factor authentication turned on their accounts, saying that two factor authentication would only be available to paying members of the Twitter blue membership.

    Now, if you recall, two factor authentication, which is where you have a password, and then something like a SMS message or in authenticator app or whatever, is a way for you to make your account more secure.

    On the premise that even if someone compromises your password, if they don’t have the app, or they don’t have access to your your text line, they cannot access your account.

    And it’s a very common place.

    system of authentication is a very good system of authentication, that does dramatically improve security.

    And it is ironic that the new management at Twitter would make a judgment like this study a core security feature designed to reduce fraud designed to reduce accounts being compromised and boded etc, we’ll get moved behind a paywall when said new management was talking not so long ago about the problem with bots and things on Twitter as a justification for not wanting to go through with the deal.

    So clearly, this is not a a management that is used to consistency of message.

    But they’re not the only ones.

    This past week, Facebook announced that they were rolling out the meta verified program as well, where for $15 a month, you could get a blue checkmark on your profile, enhance security features, and so on and so forth.

    And both of these platforms announcing these services.

    It’s understandable why why someone would be doing this.

    After all, as advertising dollars soften, which we saw in the fourth quarter on several earnings calls, these companies are naturally looking for more revenue, and what better source of revenue than to get people to pay for your services directly.

    This raises an interesting challenge, though, because for the longest time, it has been something of a truism that if you are not paying you are the product, right? If you are participating on social media, you are the product that is sold to advertisers.

    And now you are still the product being sold to advertisers in Twitter in its Twitter blue benefits statement says that you will see 50% fewer ads, but you will still you are still being sold to advertisers.

    And of course Facebook has announced that these measures don’t improve, you know, your account performance or anything, they only for security and validation that you are you are who you say you are.

    And so it now creates this interesting conflict of interest where yes, you are the product, but you are also the customer.

    And it remains to be seen how widely adopted these these measures are.

    When you look at another service, say like YouTube premium or YouTube premium you buy essentially no ads, you buy that so that you don’t see advertising anymore at all.

    And that’s on a per account basis.

    So if you happen to have, you know, several YouTube accounts, you will still see ads on your other accounts students, you have to buy it for each account if you don’t want to see ads.

    Same is true for Spotify.

    If you if you pay for the upgrade, you get no ads.

    And so I think people will be watching in with close interests to see how many consumers choose these options.

    The reduced ads or just the blue checkmark as the almost a status symbol does have some weight with some consumers, but not with all of them.

    More to the point though, it is concerning from a data security perspective that a service would essentially sell something that keeps that service safer.

    And when you think about it, it is inherently in that services best interest, so keep their platform secure.

    But by moving security behind a paywall they are effectively saying we are okay with a certain percentage of users being less safe because they’re not paying customers.

    And as a result again, it changes that balance of power to say okay, if you are not paying then you really are I sort of the the bottom of the barrel.

    But even if you are paying, you are still not a premier customer, right you are still not entitled to the benefits that other paying customers on other platforms receive.

    So what do we take of this? What do we make of this one? If you haven’t already, it’s probably time to look at other platforms, right look at a platform like Mastodon look at a platform.

    Any of the other platforms that are being developed, that will be alternatives to the mainstream social media sites.

    Look at private social media.

    Go look at Slack and telegram at Discord.

    Discord in particular because Discord revenue model is super clear.

    Slacks revenue model is super clear, right slack charges you per seat.

    There is no ads at all of any kind.

    Same is true on Discord.

    You pay for your nitro subscription.

    But there’s no ads period you pay for nitro because you want to use more emoji and have to upload larger files.

    As public social networks and many tech companies in general, start realizing that basic economics still applies to them.

    And they have to make up money where they can that will naturally push consumers who are not used to paying for these things to different services where the economics are, are pretty clear.

    You know what you’re getting when you buy it.

    And you know that some stuff like basic account security is built right.

    And in fact, I was seeing I saw the other week that for certain accounts I know on Hubspot and on Slack.

    And I believe on Discord.

    Now to depending on the server by server, you’re required to have to fire two factor authentication just to be able to use the service for those sensitive situations.

    So the takeaway is beware of these public social media companies, right? They still have absolutely no interest in you other than how much money they can make on you.

    And their lack of care and their lack of security overall, and their willingness to essentially almost blackmail here for basic account security should be a good indicator that it’s time to move on.

    It’s time to move on from them and go to greener pastures where you and I as consumers are more respected.

    Thanks for tuning in.

    We’ll talk to you soon.

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  • Almost Timely News, February 19, 2023: The Buyer’s Guide to Expertise

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    What’s On My Mind: The Buyer’s Guide to Expertise

    This past week, a colleague on LinkedIn messaged me about an upcoming conference where someone who, in their perspective, was clearly unqualified to be giving a talk about AI was slated to present at an upcoming conference about AI – ChatGPT, specifically. This colleague’s rather pointed question was whether this bothered me or not (they referenced that a lot of crypto bros on LinkedIn were suddenly AI experts), and more generally, how could they know the difference between experts and people just hopping on the trend?

    So today, let’s go through a buyer’s guide to expertise. How do you know who’s a real expert and who isn’t?

    First, I think it’s important to draw a distinction – as Google does, in its Search Quality Rating Guidelines – between experience and expertise. Experience is something everyone can have, and whether or not we agree with someone’s experience, as long as they’re not outright lying about it, one person’s experience is equal to another’s. If I have a dinner at a restaurant and I love it, and you have dinner at the same restaurant – perhaps even at the same time as me – and you hate it, is either of our experiences invalid? No. We have had different experiences, but each is a valid point of view.

    Now, here’s where we transition from experience to expertise. Suppose I am a Michelin-starred chef and you are not. Perhaps we’re at a sushi bar and I notice that the wasabi is actual, fresh wasabi. You, being someone who is not a trained sushi chef, might not know the difference between real, fresh wasabi and regular wasabi. As an aside, in America, 99.9% of wasabi is just colored horseradish. Real, fresh wasabi is sweeter, more pungent, and highly volatile. Once it’s been ground, it loses its potency in about an hour, which is why the best sushi restaurants serve you a chunk of the root and a grater and you grate your own right at the table.

    Or perhaps we’re at a restaurant where pasta is being served and I, as a chef, can tell they used real truffle oil instead of synthetic truffle oil (real truffle oil, amusingly, doesn’t taste as strong as synthetic). That expertise might give me a different perspective on my experience, but I can also objectively say that this restaurant is a better restaurant than that restaurant because of their technical proficiency.

    My technical expertise as a chef is separate from my experience as a diner, and that’s one major difference. Someone can be on stage talking about their experiences with AI, with large language models like ChatGPT, and their experiences are valid. But they may lack the technical expertise to go into great detail about it and ways to use it that align best with the underlying technical details of the model.

    For example, a few weeks ago on the Trust Insights livestream, we walked through the underlying algorithms that power Twitter and LinkedIn, and in the process disabused a few myths about how they work. (feel free to use as many hashtags as you want, for example, it makes no difference one way or another) By understanding the way the system works, we can craft advice and counsel that goes beyond experience and into expertise.

    Experience is what happened to you. Expertise is knowing why you had those experiences.

    A second dimension of real expertise is something I learned from my martial arts teachers, especially Mark Davis and Stephen Hayes. Someone who is a legitimate expert knows the material, obviously. They understand it in a deep way. But what they have that separates them from others is they know what will go wrong before it happens. When you’re learning a martial arts technique, you can copy the rote movements from just about anyone. You can watch videos on YouTube to copy the movements like a robot. What you can’t learn without an expert teacher is all the ways that technique will go wrong, and a true master practitioner, a master teacher, will teach you and train you in all those ways a technique will go wrong so that you’re never surprised when something does go wrong.

    For example, in Google Analytics 4, Google supposedly switched to an event-based model as its foundational measurement strategy, and that’s more or less true. If you read the official documentation and all the tutorials out there, you’ll learn about the event model and how events are the most granular measurement, and with events you can measure everything.

    However, I can tell you with certainty that there are certain reports your stakeholders will ask you for that you absolutely cannot build in Google Analytics 4 because there are still scoping issues. You can’t use events and the month dimension together because they’re incompatible (you have to use the date dimension instead). You cannot use the datetime dimension with events either, which is really annoying when you’re trying to build a granular attribution model. These are intricate technical gotchas that you only know from both experience and expertise.

    In the context of something like ChatGPT, if you understand how large language models work – the attention algorithm – and you understand how embeddings and vectorization and a bunch of other arcane technical details inform those models, then when someone’s ChatGPT prompt doesn’t return what they want it to return, you can diagnose their prompt with efficiency and help them get on the right track very quickly.

    This is where expertise and experience diverge significantly. You can have a bunch of experiences with something but still not know why things went badly. You might know what to avoid, but you have no idea what the root cause is, only that there are certain things to do and certain things to avoid. Someone with true expertise can tell you why you had those suboptimal outcomes.

    A third dimension of real expertise is your network. You don’t have to know everything, and in reality, you can’t know everything except maybe in a very tiny slice of the subject matter, in a really detailed specialization. But the network of people around you who are also professionals in your area of expertise can probably fill in the blanks. They know who to go to – you – for your specialization, and you know who to go to when you need their specialization. For example, I know a casual amount of information about AI and law. My friend and colleague Ruth Carter is an actual expert in AI law, and they even have a law practice around it.

    So when you’re trying to evaluate whether someone’s an expert in something, ask who else knows them as an expert, and what they’re known for. If you see someone, as my colleague did, on stage talking about AI but their entire network knows them for misadventures with Bitcoin, then chances are they don’t have a ton of acknowledged expertise in AI. As my friend Mitch Joel says, it’s not who you know that matters – it’s who knows you.

    That’s the buyer’s guide to expertise:

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    • Knowing what will go wrong in advance
    • Being known for your expertise

    If you’re unsure of someone, these are the three areas to start digging in to establish or discredit their expertise. Chances are you will dig into any one of these areas and establish very quickly whether someone is an actual expert or not.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Action Steps After Algorithmic Understanding?

    You Ask, I Answer: Action Steps After Algorithmic Understanding?

    In this video, Christopher Penn explains the importance of having a clear hypothesis to test when analyzing data for social media algorithms. He provides examples of how testing a hypothesis can help determine whether or not to take certain actions, such as what days to post on Instagram or which hashtags to use on TikTok. He also emphasizes the need to run statistical tests and the benefits of making data-driven decisions.

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    In this episode Robin asks, I watched the Trust Insights live stream that you did on social media algorithms.

    And I was puzzled as to how you knew what to do.

    I’m assuming the question is, how do you how do you make those determinations? The biggest thing that makes drawing a conclusion easy is having a clear hypothesis to test right? So if you are checking to see does the day of week matter to your posts on Instagram, and you have all the data that you’ve analyzed, you logically should have a proof or disproof of that hypothesis, you hypothesize that the day of the week matters.

    And then you run your statistical test, and you’re done.

    And you look at it and go, the day of the week does not matter, then you know, that you’ve disproven your hypothesis, and that you no longer have to take actions and or focus on we can only post on Instagram on these days of the week.

    Or you can only maybe use pictures of this kind of dog, whatever the whatever the hypothesis is that you are testing.

    That’s how you know what action to take.

    Where people run into trouble is when they’re looking at data, and they don’t have a clear hypothesis, they don’t have a provably True or False single condition statement to their data.

    Let’s take a look at Tiktok.

    And you’re asking, for example, how many of the four year page hashtags should you be using? If you run a test, and you look at it and say, well, there’s no statistical relationship between for your page hashtags? And how how much reach your videos have, you know that it doesn’t really matter whether you put those hashtags in or not.

    The converse may be true, right? If the converse is true, and it turns out that is very important, then you know that you need to take that action.

    I’ll give you an example from my Twitter account, I was running that statistical analysis, trying to figure out what correlated to newsletter signups for my newsletter.

    And I was stunned.

    I was shocked that one of the correlates was Twitter followers, the number of Twitter followers that I gained on any given period of time during that the testing period.

    And I was like, wow, that’s, that’s awkward, because for years, people have been said, Oh, don’t don’t believe in vanity metrics, right? vanity metrics, don’t matter how many people follow you.

    That’s a vanity metric doesn’t matter? Well, that’s not universally true.

    For some principals, you may find that a metric matters to you or your data, your business that may not matter, matter to others.

    And the only way you do that, is by running those tests by testing those hypotheses.

    But once you do, then you should have a pretty clear idea of what to do next, right? Say, the number of Twitter followers matters.

    What do you do? You run a test, you go out and you get a bunch more Twitter followers, and you see, does newsletter signups go up commensurate with the amount of new followers you’d have? If the answer is yes, then you have causal impact, right? You’ve you’ve gone and done the thing, and seeing the proportionate rise in the outcome you care about, you have proven that that is that is real for your account.

    Now, that may not be true for everybody, it may not even be true within your company.

    But for that specific testing scenario, if you can first find a correlation and then prove its causation, then you have a pretty good idea of whether it’s working or not.

    So that’s the secret to using this data to using this understanding of machine learning models to use an understanding of an algorithm understand what it does, you build a hypothesis, test that hypothesis, and then whether you prove or disprove it, that guides your next steps that creates the action that you need to take or the thing that you can stop doing because you know, it doesn’t really matter.

    So if you are not in a position to run those kinds of statistical tests, ask someone who is right, there’s, there’s no, there’s no easy substitute for doing the work.

    There’s no easy substitute for running the analysis yourself.

    And if you just winging it, then you know, it’s kind of a flip of the coin as to whether you get a good results or not.

    I would much rather someone invest the time to learn how to run these tests and then go, go run them if you can’t afford to hire somebody, teach yourself learn how to do it so that you can make decisions with confidence.

    You can make decisions that are based in reality in the data in front of you that are not guesswork.

    And most critically, when you have to defend your decision to your the powers that be whoever they are.

    You can say here’s the approach that I took and the mathematics behind it.

    If for some reason you Got a variance that doesn’t agree with the data that you can say, Yeah, this is an anomaly, because here’s the tests that I ran that prove that this decision I made was actually mathematically the correct one.

    Whereas if you have a hunch, it’s a lot harder to prove that the hunch was good or bad.

    So, really good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Proving Algorithmic Understanding?

    You Ask, I Answer: Proving Algorithmic Understanding?

    Christopher Penn discusses the importance of testing assumptions in social media algorithms, using machine learning and data science tools. To understand the impact of hashtags on reach and engagement, for example, one would download all of their Twitter data and run a statistical analysis to determine if there is a significant effect. Penn emphasizes the importance of testing assumptions using a large and well-balanced dataset, ideally one’s own or one’s competitor’s data, to draw accurate conclusions. Testing is key to understanding the true impact of different social media strategies, and ultimately, improving marketing performance.

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    Jen asks a follow up question from a previous episode of the Trust Insights livestream on social media algorithms.

    She asks, How do we know that the conclusions? For example, hashtags do or don’t matter for retweeting or for visibility? How do we know that that’s a true statement? The answer is, you test, you build models to test those assumptions.

    And the way to do that is using machine learning using some data science tools to prepare the data.

    And then machine learning to build models that are statistically valid, statistically accurate.

    To understand the outcome, I’ll walk you through this pretty briefly, let’s say we want to test to see if using too many hashtags dampens our reach on Twitter, how would we know? Well, to start, you would download all of your Twitter data, right? You would maybe spend a week, a couple of weeks doing tweeting with extra hashtags, maybe instead of one hashtag, you put in three, or four or five, you vary it up, but it’s more than what you usually do.

    And then at the conclusion of that period, you would take all of your existing data, maybe six months worth of data.

    And using either causal inference or causal inference with Bayesian static time series modeling, or propensity score modeling, you would essentially say, Here’s my treatment period, this is the period of time when I applied this treatment, I used double the number of hashtags to triple the number of hashtags.

    And here’s my control period of the past six months worth of data, these software packages will say great, let’s take a look at everything else that is in this dataset.

    And then look at our treatment period d noise any variations or any variability that that is statistically present in both sets, you know, sort of the things you would have happened anyway, business as usual.

    And then from the remainder say, Okay, this is the, the impact of the treatment of the change that you made.

    These techniques, these these datasets, techniques are very common, they are very common, particularly in things like biostatistics, where you’re taking an actual medication, and you’re applying it to some people and you’re applying a placebo to other people.

    In doing so, because you can’t AB test a person might you can’t split that person in half and give half the person one treatment and half the person not.

    You try to find people who are similar to that person in age, physical condition, maybe ethnicity, things like that, you try to control for as many variables pot as possible.

    And you have control group and you have a test group, the exact same thing applies when you’re testing out a social media algorithm, maybe you and five or six other social media managers all team up and you run a test together.

    Or maybe you download very large datasets from bunches of different accounts, if it’s on a network where you can do so like Tiktok, were Twitter.

    And you run those models.

    And you see, is that statistically valid? is the number of hashtags does that change? The reach or the engagements of these different accounts? That’s how you draw those conclusions.

    When I ran those tests to see if the number of hashtags impacts the level of engagements, which is a proxy for reach, because no one can engage if they don’t reach them? The answer was, it had almost no effect it was there was no statistically relevant effect over it was three and a half million tweets.

    So as certainly a large enough sample size to look at people who used two or fewer hashtags, or people who use more than two hashtags in a in a treatment, and it didn’t really matter, there was no difference.

    The same thing was true for other things like time of day and day of week.

    So to answer John’s question, you have to test your assumptions using the data that you have available to ideally a lot of it, ideally, data to well balanced, that is that has the ability to remove noise or remove effects in the data that could be causing accuracy issues, remove covariance, for example, and correlates.

    But in doing so, you can ask the questions of the data that you want to know.

    And what’s critically important is you want to run this ideally on your data, or your data, MAE and maybe your competitors data, because as we know, for particularly things like social networks, where there are these graph networks, and they’re things can happen and phenomena that can happen locally within part of the network.

    That is not true for the network as a whole.

    You want to run this with your data to see if there’s something that is true about you and your peers and your competitors.

    That might not be true about a Kardashian as an example.

    Those people and and people outside your industry, maybe they’re going to have different types of interactions and their portion of the network.

    So build your models, test your assumptions, look for those statistical outcomes that tell you that something does or does not matter, and then apply the appropriate strategies.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Value of Content Marketing in an AI World?

    You Ask, I Answer: Value of Content Marketing in an AI World?

    In this video, Christopher Penn discusses the impact of large language models on content marketing and the challenges that come with it. While these models are good at generating and refining content, the lack of an exchange of traffic between the models and content creators creates a new economic equation. Christopher suggests that instead of solely focusing on top-of-the-funnel awareness, content marketers should shift their focus to creating content that nurtures and retains existing customers. By investing resources in creating content that makes customers happy and building a strong community, companies can reduce churn rates and improve customer loyalty.

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    In today’s episode, Jason asks, What is the future of content marketing.

    Now with tools like chat GPT and other large language models, this is not surprising question after our conversation last time about the effects on SEO, in terms of the way these tools are going to impact content marketing.

    Right now, the tools are good at generating content, they are great at refining content, or transforming it from one type to another.

    This is easily seen when you take something like a transcript from a call and ask one of these tools, some of these large language models to go ahead and rewrite that as a journal article or a newspaper piece or something along those lines, where it can reformat the data that you’re giving it.

    Hence, the name, transformer generative pre trained transformer.

    That’s what GPT-2 stands for.

    And those are really powerful and very effective, what they do in the bigger picture of how these tools are going to impact content marketing is going to depend a lot on settling some legal issues.

    Namely, the data that these tools are trained on may not have what we know for sure has not been given conceptually, because you were probably not asking when these tools made their crawl the web, hey, can we use your blog as part of the training data set? This is also true for images, there is no precedent set in law yet that would determine how these tools could or could not use that data.

    But that brings to a much bigger question about the value of content, and the purpose of content and the the system of exchange that we’ve had in place.

    For the last 25 years.

    Now, we’ve had sort of a tacit agreement with technology companies, companies like Google and Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, etc.

    And the agreement has been this, we give you content for free, that we take our time and effort to publish and to make.

    And in exchange, you send us new potential customers for free.

    And that’s sort of the bilateral exchange, we make this stuff for you.

    And then you send us prospects, the large language models in particular, but all the generative AI models, sort of break this arrangement.

    Think about it, when you go on to the new Bing, or the new Google and stuff that Google borrowed from the demos that have been shown.

    Where is your website, listed in the citations and in the sources for these new models, if you look at beings beings are tiny little pillbox citations, like footnotes and the results and then the Google demo, there wasn’t any.

    That means that a large language model that was trained on our stuff collectively, is not sending us traffic back.

    Right.

    So it breaks that economic model, it breaks that model of saying, We’re gonna give you this for free, and you send us customers for free.

    Now, the large language models and these generative AI models are effectively saying you give us your content for free, we give you nothing back.

    Now, you don’t need to be an economist to figure out that’s a pretty raw deal.

    And so a big challenge for content marketers is to say, Well, if the economic equation is broken, why do we need to do content marketing? Right? Why do we need to publish stuff in the hopes of these technology companies sending us traffic when we know they’re not going to? This is not the first time we’ve dealt with this think about, for example, Facebook, in the first five years of Facebook’s public availability really thinking 2010 to 2015.

    They sent businesses a lot of traffic, a lot of potential customers, sharing links, sharing all sorts of content and people were thrilled people made Facebook a core part of their social media marketing strategy.

    Today, you know, really the last seven or eight years, that equation is totally different.

    Now, you have to pay for anything on Facebook to be seen at all much less to be able to contact your followers in any reasonable method or period of time.

    And your organic your unpaid reach is pretty much zero, right? So the economic equation changed however, in exchange companies have largely recognized Well, is there a point in publishing organic content to Facebook? No, cuz you’re not gonna get paid for it.

    Right? Your your pay is the form of new customers and if you get no reach, why bother doing it? That doesn’t materially harm Facebook’s model because a lot of the the interactions they are interpersonal reactions on a person to person basis and not business.

    As in something like training and building large language models, who publishes the majority of content online, there are certainly many, many individuals who published and post content blogs like the one you’re reading now.

    But there’s way more corporate content, right? All these different websites and such.

    And if the value is no longer in search for that content marketing, we’re, what is the value? Here’s what to think about.

    The value of content marketing, is not just as a discovery mechanism, it is as a nurturing mechanism.

    It is as a loyalty mechanism.

    And it’s those areas of the marketing operations funnel that we should probably pay more attention to anyway.

    Think about it.

    How much time and effort do you currently put into your content marketing right now at sort of that top of the funnel awareness slash discovery phase, I’d be willing to wager it’s the majority of your time, right? You’re trying to get improved search listings, you’re trying to get more traffic out of social media, you’re trying to attract eyeballs, you’re pushing out content on YouTube, and Tiktok.

    And all those places.

    How much of that content that you’re creating is directed at your loyal customers is specifically made just for them, and nobody else? Not as much as attracting new folks, right? It’s the same kind of thing that companies do with their marketing budgets, they spend inordinate sums of money attracting to attract new customers, and they kind of ignore the existing customers, which creates customer churn.

    Because customers recognize, hey, I got a better deal.

    If I abandon this company, and come back in a month than I that I get staying with them and being a loyal customer.

    So if you flip your content marketing strategy, to creating content that makes your existing customers deliriously happy, your content marketing will still serve a vital function, probably a badly neglected function.

    And in turn, those now very happy customers who no longer feel like they’re getting ignored in favor of you know, the new customers will probably be more likely to recommend you to refer you to spread news about you via word of mouth.

    So that to me, is the the sensible future, for content marketing, yes, there will still always be a place to to create awareness based content.

    But if search and social continue to change as dramatically as they do, and incorporate much more generative AI capabilities that might free us up, to be able to really focus in on building those relationships with our loyal customers, building our communities, for our loyal customers, and making them as happy as possible so that when behind closed doors in Slack, and and discord and telegram and all these places that that machines can’t read.

    Our customers are talking about us in a positive light, our customers are recommending us to others in the private discussions and that group chat or that group text, that that people have.

    That’s the future of content marketing, that if we invest our scarce resources wisely, will probably provide the biggest bang for the buck.

    Think about it.

    How often have you heard the correct trope that it costs x times more money to acquire a new customer then does to retain an existing one that isn’t just for customer service? That is for all marketing.

    If you took 80% of your content marketing budget that you’re using for acquisition and put it into attention, what kind of impact would that have on your business? What if you could cut your churn rate by 50%? Just with the power of great content marketing? give that some thought.

    That’s a it’s a great question about the future of content marketing and the answer, I feel is in in making our existing customers happier.

    Thanks for the question.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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    We’ve talked a lot recently about ChatGPT and SEO, about how organic search itself is going to fundamentally change in the very near future. A lot of folks have understandably reacted very strongly to the news, asking what they should do, what the consequences will be. The reality is, no one knows. We can make some very educated guesses about how people react based on how people generally react to massive technological change, but we cannot promise or guarantee any outcome.

    What we can promise, what we can guarantee, is something that Amazon founder and former CEO Jeff Bezos advocated for, and it’s a sensible strategy: focus on what doesn’t change. What are the aspects of our behavior, of our customers’ behavior that won’t change no matter the technological intermediary?

    At the most basic level, generally speaking, all consumers (and I include B2B and B2C here in the term consumer) want things to be better, faster, and cheaper. I know of no one in a position of responsibility, of decision-making who says “yes, you know, I think I’d like to pay more for absolutely no good reason”. That doesn’t happen. But people want to pay less all the time. People want things to be faster. People want things to be better. That doesn’t change.

    Our biochemical brains don’t change, not really. We haven’t had significant hardware upgrades in millennia; the human being who walks the earth today isn’t substantially different than the human being who walked the earth 2,000 years ago or even 10,000 years ago. We are still motivated by base emotions like joy, anger, fear, sadness, and love. The mechanisms that we might use to express those emotions certainly differ now, but the driving forces themselves are the same.

    Habits like word of mouth don’t change. We still talk to our friends, families, and colleagues about strong positive or negative experiences. We still rage at poor service or gush over exceptional experiences. The merchant at the bazaar in ancient Sumeria marketed with the same word of mouth we use today.

    Where should our focus be, if we want to succeed in our marketing and our business? The same place it should have been all along: on making our customers as deliriously happy as we can, so that they are compelled to share their experiences with the wider world. Investing in things that make us remarkable in the literal sense – worthy of remark, as Seth Godin says.

    If you have something that’s worth remarking on, it makes it a lot easier to do everything we’ve talked about. Word of mouth spreads, regardless of channel. People ask about your brand specifically. Ad costs go down a little as performance increases. People join your communities and stick around for the value you provide them.

    Is this new? No. Is this revelatory? No. Is this insightful? No.

    It’s obvious, isn’t it?

    So why aren’t you doing it already?

    When any new technological innovation comes out that has the potential to disrupt your marketing or your business, ask yourself first if it substantially changes the things that don’t change. Smartphones, for example, make it substantially easier for people to document their experiences, good and bad alike. They make word of mouth easier. The Internet opened up whole new channels for people to perform the exact same behaviors, just online.

    As for AI-mediated experiences like ChatGPT? The jury’s still out, because people still generally prefer to deal with people. We’ll see how it all plays out, but if you remain laser focused on the things that don’t change and being actually remarkable, chances are you’ll weather the turbulent seas ahead better than your competitors who flail and drown.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: B2B or B2C Benefits More From AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: B2B or B2C Benefits More From AI?

    Unlock the benefits of AI for your business with this expert analysis. Discover which industry, B2B or B2C, will see more advantages from AI, and why. With insights into cost-effectiveness, scale, and expectations, find out how your business can leverage AI for greater efficiency and success. Watch now to learn more. Hit that subscribe button for more expert advice.

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    In today’s episode, Mary asks, which industry, B2B or B2C will benefit more from artificial intelligence? And that’s a tough question to answer.

    But my inclination is that B2B will enjoy more of the benefits of AI with fewer of the costs.

    And here’s why.

    When you’re talking B2C, we’re talking business to consumer, we’re talking about many times scale, the ability for a chatbot to be able to run on your website and address millions of people handle customer service issues and things like that.

    Personalization, doing RFM analysis doing predictive forecasting for customers.

    All of that is incredible value that AI can unlock for a B2C company.

    But one of the challenges that comes with that is scale.

    If you’ve got millions of customers, you have a compute problem, in the sense that it costs a lot of money to deploy some of these engines.

    To add scale.

    If you’re using a an API based service like OpenAI, for example.

    Every time you hit that API, you’re costing money.

    And if you’re sending out a million messages, or a million tweets or things like that, bill gets pretty big pretty fast.

    To the point where for the largest enterprise B2C companies, companies like Target or WalMart, for example, it’s going to be more cost effective for them to build their own in the long run.

    Because of just the sheer scale this your amount of scale they have.

    B2B companies typically don’t have that problem.

    B2B companies have audiences in the 1000s, rather than the millions have addressable audiences in the 1000s, rather than the millions and have.

    They have the same needs for customization personalization forecasting generation.

    But because the scale is so much smaller, they can afford to do use the nicer stuff.

    They can afford to build an integration with OpenAI, for example.

    And instead of having, you know, millions of people hitting their app, they might have 500 people hitting a chat GPT-2 Like app within the company.

    And so their bills will be much lower.

    But those those tasks that AI handles will make them far more efficient, and make them far better at their jobs.

    And so, as I look at the landscape, both B2B and B2C companies stand to benefit substantially from the use of AI, particularly the use of AI and marketing, AI and sales, etc.

    But B does B2B companies feel like this is this is subjective opinion, but B2B companies feel like they will be able to benefit more from the particular strengths of AI.

    Without the costs of scale, they will be able to use more computationally expensive technologies, because again, you don’t have to deliver massive volume.

    For example, inside of a CRM package, you might have something like a chatbot, like a chat GPT-3 in there to help construct dialogue, or to generate messages.

    In those situations, a B2B company might not have the same latency demands that a B2C company might example, you are on a B2C companies website and you’re working with a chatbot, you expect that chat bot to be fast and responsive to get back to you to answer as though it were a real person.

    Contrast that with something like in B2B, where you’re in your marketing automation software, and you tell it to generate a bunch of tweets.

    You’re okay, if it says like, yeah, come back in five minutes, right? And they’ll be done.

    Like, okay, cool.

    I’m gonna go on to another thing on my to do list and let it do its thing.

    That difference in expectations means that B2B companies will be able to leverage the more computationally expensive models because people are okay with that experience.

    They’re used to it experience where yeah, there is some batch processing, there’s some delay, etc.

    Whereas consumers and B2C are a lot less tolerant of that kind of thing.

    So again, both types of industry will benefit from AI, but I definitely see B2B as being able to use it more and to get greater benefit from it.

    It’s a really interesting question.

    It’s a really interesting question.

    So thank you for that.

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  • Mind Readings: Build Your Own Event

    Mind Readings: Build Your Own Event

    Get motivated to create your own event! In this episode, we dive into the world of unconferences, where communities come together to self-organize events with minimal costs. Discover how creating an event from scratch can lead to lifelong friendships, business relationships, and even professional debuts. Don’t let the lack of a company hold you back, if your community is asking for it, it’s time to take the leap and show that you can make it a successful business.

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    I was reading a conversation not too long ago, in one of the discord servers I’m in that folks were folks had been petitioning a convention and events company to hold a convention for their particular area of interest in the convention company said, we don’t think there’s money in it, so we’re not going to do it.

    And so a lot of folks were really upset about this really, really angry.

    And I found that interesting, because there’s two things that I think are challenging about that approach.

    One is, people’s reaction to being told no for business decision was vigorous.

    And that’s fine.

    People are entitled to react to the things however they want.

    But the second was, the automatic presumption that an events company was necessary for you to have this convention to have this conference.

    That’s absolutely not true.

    In 2006, now, 17 years ago, my friend Chris Brogan and I got together with three other folks.

    And we said, let’s do a new media conference.

    That wasn’t one that at the time, we felt, suited the, the needs of the community, and was affordable, and was easy for people to participate in.

    And so borrowing off the bar camp model, we created PodCamp, PodCamp, Boston was September of 2006.

    And it’s funny because this is the time of record this in about a month’s time, I’m gonna be going down to Philadelphia for PodCamp Philly.

    17 years later, the event still exists is still going still going on.

    And I bring this up because there was no blueprint, there was no company that wanted to take on this harebrained scheme, right.

    For those who are unfamiliar, an unconference is barely controlled chaos, where you invite a bunch of people together.

    And the people sort of self organize their own event, you provide a facility.

    And then anybody is welcome to start a session in as many spaces and places as you have, regardless of qualification, and things just either happen or don’t.

    And people are encouraged to use what’s called the law of two feet, which is if you’re not getting something out of the gathering, and walk to another one.

    So if somebody gets up there and starts being a jerk, we’ll get up and walk out.

    These kinds of events are not expensive.

    There, there is still a cost, right you have to have a facility have a venue where you can have people gather, you have to provide some minimal accommodations, you know these coffee for people.

    But it’s entirely possible to do that.

    And to not only do that, but then to extend it, create it turn into a movement where other people can take the same template and run with it.

    That’s what the whole unconference movement is about.

    And unconferences sort of came and went, they had their their heyday right around the same time as the first golden age of podcasting.

    But they the system, the idea that the template is still very valuable for anyone who wants to create a community driven event where other people aren’t willing to take the chance.

    For the same price is like buying a billboard, you can rent a facility and encourage people to come on over and participate, participate in an event that is run by people.

    Keep your costs minimal.

    Ideally, you might even do something like publish your ledger so that people can see like, yeah, you’re not pocketing all the money.

    And actually, any money being collected is being put back into the event that people tend to like that sort of thing.

    But the important takeaway here is that, especially for something like a conference and event, you have the ability to create your own.

    And if there’s a market there of even 50 people, right, just get your local exhibits hall or something like that at your local city hall.

    And you can create an event and if it’s successful, then you can create additional events and grow and build this thing until you have an event franchise that either another events companies want to buy out because it is so successful, or that your community just enjoys for what it is and it may not match the the spectacle of a huge event like a dream force or IBM think or something you know the 100,000 was in person conferences, but it doesn’t have to.

    And in fact, the bigger an event gets, the more challenging it becomes to get that sense of community feeling out of it.

    The first PodCamp was 300 people.

    And yet, the number of friendships and business relationships and things that came out of that.

    And the ripple effects is had within the new media community are still felt to this day, there are still people who are at that first PodCamp, who really that was their their professional debut, in some sense.

    And now, they are extremely successful creators and things like that.

    So there is no restriction except your willingness to work at it to create an event yourself.

    You absolutely can do it, you should do it.

    If your community is asking for it, and people are willing to chip in, in time in labor in money, create your own event.

    And when somebody else says no, that’s when you can say Fine, I’ll do it myself.

    And then you can lament not having this business that we will have proven is a successful one.

    So a little bit of showing folks that there is a market for your interests for the things that you care about, and then being willing to just go out and demonstrate that in a very tangible fashion.

    Anyway, that’s today’s thoughts.

    Thank you for tuning in.

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