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    What’s On My Mind: The Great Marketing Reboot

    I was having a chat with a few professional friends recently about our shared experiences at conferences, at the way audiences were reacting to our content as professional speakers. Something really stood out that I thought I’d share and get your take on, see if you’re seeing the same thing.

    The headline: it feels like marketing has rebooted.

    I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago after Content Marketing World and since then I’ve caught up with even more friends from events like Inbound, B2B exchange, and many others. We’re all seeing the same thing – the profession of marketing seems to have hit a hard reboot.

    What does that mean? It means, in short, that a tremendous amount of institutional knowledge has just vaporized. There’s been so much churn, so much turnover these last two and a half years that the people sitting in the room with us as we’re onstage is a completely different crowd.

    Part of that, undoubtedly, is a function of time. When you go to the same event year after year, you see some change but you see people year after year, so the change isn’t as abrupt. With some of these current in-person conferences, we haven’t gotten together in the same physical space in 3 years now, so of course there would be some change.

    But I had a feeling it was bigger than that. Naturally, I turned to data to see if we could get a feel for just how much things have changed, and found it in the Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey (JOLTS), published by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Now, this is obviously USA only, but I suspect it holds true for many places since we all experienced the same pandemic together:

    JOLTS Data

    Yeah. When you look at 2020 and beyond for professional services job churn, the train leaps off the rails. We’ve hired more in the last 2 1/2 years than ever before. We’ve separated more (quits + fires) in the last 2 1/2 years than ever before.

    But the really telling line is that orange line – that’s the number of job openings. You can see that the pandemic utterly decimated the professional services workforce in March/April 2020 – and the pace of hiring has not kept up with the number of openings. Even with layoffs and a recession, there are still over 2 million professional services jobs left unfilled – and there’s a tremendous amount of churn. How do we know? The green line is hires. The red line is separations. We see they’re marching together, which means as fast as we’re hiring, people are leaving one way or another, too.

    Now, that’s all professional services jobs, not just marketing. But it speaks to just how big a dislocation the early months of the pandemic was in its impact on marketing as well.

    Which brings me back to the Great Rebooting of Marketing. What happens when there’s a big jobs dislocation? A bunch of very senior folks punch out and take retirement if they’re offered a good package. Those senior folks carry a tremendous amount of institutional knowledge. Then the hiring freezes come, so any attrition that occurs isn’t replaced – and when it is replaced, headcount tends to be more junior because junior folks cost less. By the time a company is ready to start hiring, they’ve lost their biggest reservoirs of knowledge and restaffed with new, fresh people. Those new, fresh people will bring new perspectives and new ideas, to be sure – but they will not have the benefit of large institutional knowledge reservoirs to draw on.

    Which means that marketing in a company that’s done that is effectively starting over. You hire new content creators and SEO folks and they’ve got to skill up on your environment and probably the profession itself, especially if they’re fresh off the graduation stage. You have to inoculate them with your culture and dust off the knowledge repositories of the people whose positions they’ve filled, hoping against hope that someone left any kind of documentation behind. (and they usually haven’t, so you’re literally going to reinvent the wheel)

    All this translates into who we’re meeting at conferences and events. We’re meeting the new crew, the new team at nearly every company. We’re meeting folks who are back to square one, back to the basics, back to needing to know how to do something before they can even consider what it is they’re doing or why they’re doing it.

    In turn, if we’re running marketing, we’re restarting. Maybe you’re lucky and you’re a long-timer at your company – you can get the new folks up to speed more quickly. But if you’re one of the new folks, you’re probably experiencing less than optimal conditions for getting up to speed.

    So here’s my unsolicited advice. If you’re a marketing manager, there’s never been a better time to start documenting what you do, why you do it, and how to do it at your company. As you can tell by the chart above, the level of instability in the job market isn’t going away soon – we have millions of unfilled jobs, which creates a lot of churn on its own as candidates can basically name their price and hop from job to job until they find what they like. And if you’re at a company that announces a hiring freeze, do anything and everything you possibly can to retain your people. Hiring freezes are arguably worse than layoffs because you slowly bleed to death as the remaining people inherit the remaining workload and burnout ramps up like crazy. Fire customers, beg, borrow, and borrow quietly any resources you can to keep your people around.

    If you’re a marketing executor, a do-er of marketing, there’s also never been a better time to start writing your own marketing cookbook. Catalog your knowledge, what you know how to do, the systems you work with, all your capabilities so that as opportunities arise, you know deeply what you can bring to the table. The more detailed your personal cookbook of marketing, the faster you can get up to speed in any position by adapting your processes and procedures to your new company. And when instability hits that company, you just take your accrued knowledge and your cookbook and move to the next place that values what you’re capable of.

    Finally, for those of us who market to marketers and serve marketers… as my friend, partner, and CEO Katie Robbert has been urging, it’s back to basics. Dust off the 101 and freshen it up. Help people with the how, so that you can better sell the what and the why – people who are too frazzled just trying to get things done have no interest in anything other than getting out of survival mode. The faster you help people out of survival mode, the faster you can start selling the big picture again.

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  • Crypto Winter and The Perfect Macroeconomic Storm

    Crypto winter

    Let’s talk about crypto winter for a bit. There’s obviously a lot going on, a lot of big headlines, but not a lot of attention on the macroeconomic picture that’s an underlying cause of crypto winter.

    First, let’s set some basic definitions since economics isn’t everyone’s cup of tea and talk about inflation.

    Economics 101: where does inflation come from?

    Fundamentally, inflation comes from increased prices. Sometimes it’s because it costs more to produce something. Maybe you make things out of wood and once you’ve cut down all the trees near you, it costs you more and more to get wood, so you have to raise prices to keep making a profit.

    Sometimes it’s because of consumer competition. If people suddenly want more of a thing, and there’s a limited supply of the thing, people will pay more to get the thing. Every holiday season, there’s some toy every kid wants and prices for that toy go sky high, especially on eBay.

    Money Supply

    Next, let’s talk about money supply. What is money supply? The short answer is that money supply is the amount of money that exists. If you found every penny in existence issued by the a government, that’s part of the government’s money supply.

    Where does money come from? This may be surprising to some. Money is invented. Created out of thin air. A government, any government, can simply say, “Okay, we’ve just printed some more money” and that money now exists.

    You might say, “But doesn’t money need something to back it, like gold? Isn’t that why Fort Knox exists in the United States?” That was true once upon a time. The US dollar used to be valued based on the amount of gold and silver the US government owned, but that hasn’t been true since 1971. And that’s not true for most currencies in the world.

    Here’s the unbelievable part. All the money that the government has printed? That’s only about 3% of the money in existence (in the USA).

    What’s the other 97%? Credit – aka loans – represent the vast majority of the money supply. How can that be? Well, let’s walk through the admittedly complicated process to see how banks create money.

    A central bank, like the ECB or the US Federal Reserve, creates money and lends it to the biggest financial institutions. Banks are required to only keep a small amount of the money they borrow in their reserves; a bank that borrows $1,000 is only required to keep, say, 10% of that on hand at any given time. The rest can be loaned out.

    So say the Fed loans a commercial bank $1,000. In turn, that bank lends $900 and keeps $100 on hand. Let’s say that’s your local community bank.

    Why would a smaller bank need to borrow from a bigger bank? Well, what happens when you buy a house, for example? You take out a mortgage, which is a loan from your bank. In turn, your bank needs to pay the seller of the home and it may not have that much money laying around from people who make deposits at the bank. So it borrows from a bigger bank to pay the seller of the home the amount of the sale.

    Now, you owe your bank for the value of the home you bought, which you’ll repay over 30 years.

    And your bank owes the bigger bank for the money it borrowed to pay off the seller of the home.

    Here’s why this matters for money supply: every time money is loaned, it is “created”. A loan counts as the creation of money.

    You may be saying, okay, but how does this create more money? The answer is in that fraction of money the bank is required to hold onto, that 10%. That’s the money a bank has to have ready in case you want to make a withdrawal. Banks can issue multiple loans against the money they have on hand; in the USA, that rule is 10%. In other words, a bank that has $1 can loan out $10, because the probability of every depositor wanting their $1 at the same time is low – and in the USA, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) guarantees that it will loan banks money to cover deposits if the bank doesn’t have enough money on hand.

    A bank that loans out $10 for every $1 it actually has is creating money, creating 10x more money (in the form of loans) than actually exists.

    Crypto Winter

    So what does this have to do with crypto winter? At the start of the pandemic, confidence in the entire economy was so shaken that to reassure consumers, investors, and banks, governments opened the floodgates of free money.

    In the US, the government did two things. First, the Federal Reserve Bank cut the federal funds rate to 0% – that’s the interest charged to banks to borrow money from the US government. Second, the US government itself handed out a boatload of money to businesses under programs like the Payroll Protection Plan, which allowed businesses to obtain grants and loans to keep people employed despite not working due to the COVID-19 outbreak.

    Many countries around the world followed similar actions. The European Central Bank, Bank of Japan, Bank of England, and many others cut their interest rates to almost nothing. In many nations, especially nations that invest heavily in their citizens, citizens were outright paid an entire monthly income to stay home and avoid going out in public for months.

    In other words, central banks and governments made it free to borrow money by other banks, and handed out a lot of money to citizens and businesses. How much? In the USA, the government created US $4 trillion, taking the money supply from $15 trillion to $19 trillion in one year. In Europe, the ECB went from 12.5 trillion Euros to almost 14 trillion Euros in the same year. China increased the renminbi from 200 trillion RMB to 220 trillion RMB in the same year.

    It’s impossible to simply add 10-25% more money to your economy without there being long-ranging and deep economic impacts, substantial inflation. Consumers bought stuff while staying home, increasing demand substantially. They paid off debts and bought stuff because their traditional forms of service-based expenditures, such as dining out, concerts, and travel were substantially curtailed.

    At the same time, supplies dwindled because of worker shortages, lockdowns, and illness – conditions which persist today. As you recall from the beginning of this piece, increased demand and decreased supply means prices inevitably go up as people are willing to pay more for purchases.

    On top of that, all the effectively free money in the banking system got loaned out and businesses themselves were able to claim vast amounts of money for paying employees.

    Where did all that money go? Recall that interest rates were effectively zero for nearly all banking operations. That meant banks could lend money at extremely low rates, but savers and investors – people who want to make money by investing it – needed a place to spend it where they’d earn something on their money. Putting your money in a bank did literally nothing with interest rates effectively zero, and the same was true for investments like US government bonds.

    Enter cryptocurrencies. While Wall Street markets were in turmoil, cryptocurrencies became an attractive investment tool for people with a sudden amount of extra money on hand, and money poured into the cryptocurrency space. It’s absolutely no surprise that nearly every cryptocurrency in existence flourished in 2020 as investment-minded people needed something to do with their money. Real estate wasn’t selling much, travel was curtailed, and Wall Street was suffering from lockdowns.

    It was crypto summer. Money flowed like cheap beer at a frat party and people invested in literally any marginally viable project.

    So What Happened?

    Well, this is where macroeconomics comes back to bite. Every central bank has a mandate to control inflation, to keep prices stable with modest amounts of inflation. When money is cheap to lend or is just handed out like candy, people spend more. People spending more means prices go up because supply is limited. So what can central banks do to tame inflation?

    They can make money more expensive to create. They can, in some cases, just outright delete money out of existence. And with inflation spiking, central banks all over the world have been making money more expensive to create. That in turn reduces lending and reduces demand for lending by consumers. From our lesson on how lending creates money, the same way that banks create money by enabling lending, they destroy money by reducing lending.

    On the flip side, higher interest rates mean more traditional financial instruments like bonds pay more, incentivizing savers to put more money away in interest-bearing tools. Prime Rate, for example, is higher in 2022 than it’s been since the early 2000s.

    At the same time, the Great Resignation and the Great Reshuffling have made labor costs for businesses increase steeply as workers are able to command higher pay. Higher pay also increases the cost of products and services, which means buyers have to pay more.

    Combine that with prices for everything being higher because of massive system shocks like the illegal invasion of Ukraine by Russia, and what do investors and consumers do? They pull money out of other places to use for consumption or investing in interest-bearing financial instruments. And where do they get that money from? Well, all those investments in crypto, for one. The stock market, for another.

    What’s happening is a macroeconomic storm of gigantic proportions. Supply is dwindling from worker shortages and raw material shortages. Demand is still very high, especially because demand for complex products like cars and computers is still unfulfilled; the wait time for a new vehicle in many places is measured in months. Prices are high all over the planet (so forget blaming any one politician, no matter what country you’re from). And lending is expensive again. Money will flow out of other assets like crypto and back into the regular economy for consumption.

    So what’s the outlook for crypto? Not good, not for a while. The macroeconomic picture is much more than a “dip”. It’s a structural realignment of markets as all the excess money created over the last two years drains away and central banks try to impose price stability around the world with the tools they have on hand. It’s likely to be years before crypto prices return to where they were at the peak of the easiest money ever to be had by investors.

    Will they return? Perhaps at some point. Climate change means that crises will become more frequent and more severe over time, necessitating more rapid actions by governments and central banks to deal with them, but climate change also means prices will continue to be pressured by those natural disasters, continually eroding the value of money.

    Next Steps for the Economy and Crypto

    What should your crypto strategy be? Treat it like any other investment. Don’t invest money you can’t afford to lose, and diversify your investments across many different asset classes, including cryptocurrencies. Look carefully at the supply and value chains of your business, your career, and your investments and try to spot vulnerabilities to macro events and trends like climate change, then invest accordingly.

    Disclosure and disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor. This article does not constitute investment advice and you should seek out a qualified financial professional before making investments or changing your financial strategy. I hold approximately US$200 in cryptocurrencies in total, including the $TILT coin, my own long-ignored creator coin, and $DESO. Neither I, nor my company TrustInsights.ai provides services around cryptocurrency.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: In House vs Agency KPIs?

    You Ask, I Answer: In House vs Agency KPIs?

    Mara asks, “Can you touch upon expectations of an in-house marketer has on Social Media, vs Agency, like in terms of content and KPI’s for example?”

    The expectations for an in-house marketer and an agency should be the same in terms of content and KPIs. The main difference is in resourcing. An employee costs less than an agency, but an agency should be able to generate more results. The key is to have clear KPIs that are aligned with the business goals.

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    In today’s episode Mara asks, Can you touch upon expectations of an in house marketer has on social media versus agencies like in terms of content and KPIs.

    I would say the expectations are or should be the same, which is some kind of result, depending on what the mandate of social media is, will determine the metrics.

    For example, if brand awareness is your KPI, then in your marketing mix model or your attribution model, you should have some kind of brand awareness outcome metric that says yes, we’re achieving brand awareness.

    And then regardless of in house or agency, whoever’s doing the work should be hitting that number should be hitting whatever, whatever you agree brand awareness is.

    And there are a variety of ways of doing that.

    You can do it through attribution, modeling, marketing, mix, modeling, surveying, polling, etc.

    The there’s no choice.

    There’s no shortage of ways to do that.

    But where the differences between in house and agency is typically in resourcing.

    Right? So an employee costs x dollars an hour, like 40 an hour.

    And they have presumably, dedicated a part or whole of their job towards doing the social media function at your company.

    An agency will charge some kind of rate, retainer, and so on and so forth, and then deliver whatever is in the scope of work.

    So the real question you have to say is, can you do an apples to apples comparison of both results that an agency gets versus as an employee and the costs of an agency versus an employee agencies are almost always gonna be more expensive than employees, almost always, the general rule of thumb that agencies operate on is sort of a 3x rule.

    So whatever a person’s salary is, you need to build them out at 3x their salary in order for that employee to be profitable, because certain percentage of the time that employee is probably not billable for a client.

    So if you’re paying Sally40 an hour as your in house Social Media Manager, then Tom at the agency is probably going to be billed out at 120 An hour assuming that Tom makes40 an hour that agency.

    So the question is, for that money, can Tom generate 3x The results that Sally does? If the answer is no, then an agency is not worth it.

    Right.

    Then Then, in terms of KPIs, one of the things you have to think about is what is your cost per result, or as cost per outcome? If both Sally and Tom are assigned to improve the your brand recognition score by 4%.

    And you’re paying Sally 1/3 of what you’re paying Tom, Tom had better create three of that 4% Right Sally create 1% of that lift, top bidder create 3% to be commensurate with the money that you’re spending on Tom versus Sally.

    If they’re if that’s not clear, who’s doing what, then you’ve got to figure that out with a more sophisticated analytics solution to help you understand yes, this is what Tom generates is what Sally generates.

    If you can’t do that, you may want to pause one or the other maybe reassigned Sally to some different work and then see, you know, how much of a Delta there is between the work the result that was happening when Tom and Sally were working together versus when we reassigned Sally maybe to organic search or email marketing.

    And it’s just Tom at that point that at the agency generating the social media results, the KPIs you care about, if you do that, and you see that suddenly, instead of 4% left, because Sally was doing one and Tom was doing three, you should see, you know, 3% Social media lift because Sally’s gone Tom’s to cut the other 3%.

    If you go down to 1%, then you know Tom wasn’t carrying his weight.

    Right? You know that the agency was not doing what it was supposed to be doing.

    That’s the that’s the trade off between an agency versus in house in house, like I said, is almost always going to be cheaper because you have the full time employee.

    The challenge is, do you have the budget to maintain that headcount? Over the long period of time you need to make

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    social media KPIs worthwhile.

    Social media KPIs, if you’re doing them well are going to be things like brand awareness are going to be things like lead Generation those metrics take time to create.

    You can’t just hop on Twitter tomorrow, or put up stuff on Tiktok tomorrow and expect overnight results, that almost never happens.

    More often than not, it takes sometimes a year, two years, three years to ramp up your production and work the kinks out so that you can create great results consistently.

    And so, if you’re going to hire an in house social media marketer, one of the things you’ve have to ask is, can we maintain this presence for three years with this, you know, this full time employee, and you asked the same question of your agency to you may change agencies, but your expectations are that an agency will create that outcome in a commensurate with the budget you give it.

    So maybe you allocate 5,000 A month internally for a social media resource, and you allocate10,000 a month for an agency resource.

    It is not unreasonable to say the agency resource had better generate 2x The results, the in house resource does cover paying 2x The money if they don’t generate that result might be time to switch for different agency.

    More important.

    It’s great.

    And important to be clear upfront to say like this is what we expect.

    These are the results we’re trying to create.

    And we want you agency to generate these can you achieve this 4% brand recognition lift? And if an agency says yes, we can, then you have them sign on the line.

    And you hold them accountable, do that.

    Right.

    This is you wouldn’t employ it’s making sure that you have KPIs that are meaningful that contribute.

    And that can be seen in an attribution model or a marketing mix models so that everybody’s held accountable to the same outcomes.

    And the outcomes are commensurate with the resources you invest in them.

    So those would be my expectations of content and KPIs for an agency versus in house.

    It’s commensurate to the resources you invest.

    And you choose the metrics based on the outcomes that makes sense to the business.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: SaaS Lead Flow?

    You Ask, I Answer: SaaS Lead Flow?

    Vijay asks, “For a SaaS Product I have experienced lead flow is high on facebook but the conversion is very low as compare to Google Ads. What you say about Inbound/Outbound Ads – what would be the metrics that matter for results?”

    The key metrics to look at when determining whether Facebook or Google ads are more effective for lead generation are conversion rate and cost per acquisition. If Facebook leads are converting at a lower rate than Google leads, but they’re cheaper on a per-lead basis, then Facebook is still the better option.

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    In today’s episode, Vijay asks for SaaS product I’ve experienced lead flow is high on Facebook, but the conversion is very low as compared to Google ads, what do you say about inbound, outbound? And so it’d be the metrics that matter for results.

    There’s not really a difference in terms of metrics that matter for results, right? If you have a SaaS product, you have some kind of sign up, maybe it’s a free trial, maybe it’s a paid conversion, but you have some way of determining, yeah, somebody did the thing we want them to someone has signed on the line and bought the thing.

    If that’s the case, then it doesn’t really matter.

    Facebook, or Google ads, or Instagram, or LinkedIn or whatever, what you’re looking at, in terms of the key metrics is, did you get a conversion, right? Did somebody convert? And then was the quality of the conversion? Good.

    So your lead score, which, again, many SaaS companies have marketing automation software and CRM software that will enable that kind of lead scoring? And then what was your cost per acquisition? Right? What did it cost to get that lead? So it’s a it’s a balancing act? If, let’s say your leads are scored like academic rates, A, B, C, D, and F, right? F is a failing lead, this lead has no ability to buy anything.

    They’re, they’re worthless, right? And then A is like, Yeah, this is our perfect customer.

    They’re big spender.

    They’re going to be a longtime client, etc.

    The question is, what is your balancing line? Right? Clearly, nobody wants F’s, no one wants a bucket of F’s, right? And in abstract, everyone would love a bucket of A’s.

    But if a C costs 10, and an A costs1,000, the question is, is the return that you’re going to get worth that a or not right, if your product makes 100 bucks, then the C is worth it, right? Because you’re getting a C quality, so maybe every third lead is going to be good, but you’re paying effectively 30 bucks for a quality lead if one and three is good.

    But your product is, is 100 bucks, you’re gonna make a net of 70 bucks afterwards, right? On the other hand, if you’re paid 1000 bucks for that A, and you only get 100 bucks in revenue, you’ve lost 900.

    And so at that point, your lead quality and your lead cost of the things you have to balance and say, at what point is it no longer worth while using a particular lead source? Now in this scenario that you’re describing, if your lead flow is high, and your conversions are low for Facebook, then it sounds like Facebook’s lead quality is not great.

    The question you have to ask is, what are you paying? If you’re paying1 A conversion on Facebook and you’re paying 2 A conversion effectively in Google ads, then yeah, even the quality is terrible, you’re still better off with Facebook in that instance, if on the other hand, it’s the reverse then stick to Google ads.

    One of the challenges that people run into with analytics is that they take each number sort of in its own right out of context.

    And the business decisions that we have to make are typically a lot more complicated than a single number.

    If it’s just cranking out wrong number of leads, that’s, that’s not great.

    If it is just cranking out super high quality leads, regardless of cost, that’s also potentially not great, we need to have that big picture context of here is, here’s the trade offs we are willing to make.

    I think that’s the best way to put here the trade offs we’re willing to make, we are willing to accept C leads at10 instead of a leads at $1,000.

    Because the profit margins dictate that if we want to be profitable, who want to make money on a sale, we have to do X, one of the things that I’ve seen companies choose to do and

    Christopher Penn 4:18

    it’s questionable whether it’s a good idea or not, depending on the business is do loss leader stuff, and say we’re going to spend a whole bucket of money on acquisition and growth and hope that people stick with us and hope that people, you know, pay off in the long term that the lifetime value of a lead is higher than the acquisition cost.

    And then, you know, maybe the first year’s value if you’re banking on a five year value from that lead.

    If you don’t have that data or the data to support it can be very risky as a strategy.

    So that’s what I would say about these different kinds of ads and comparing them and looking at the metrics you have to look At the basket of metrics, you have to look at the the net profitability from any given channel and say, What is the cost of this business? What is the revenue of this business? And is it ultimately positive because no matter how you slice it, if you’re spending more than you’re making, eventually you’re going out of business, it might not be tomorrow, but eventually that catches up with you.

    If on the other hand, you’re making money, right? If you are if your cost is less than your value that you extract, you can do that as much as you want.

    And eventually your business will hit the goals you set up.

    So that’s the answer.

    I would suggest to that question in terms of lead flow and and metrics, I look at cost per acquisition, value, net profit, conversion rates, and all those things together, build a weighted score, use it to build your scoring mechanism, and then you can assign the lead score based on those different factors for your marketing automation software to do score leads and come up with good answers for your dashboards.

    So that’s how I would tackle that your mileage may vary, but I find that’s the best way to balance all those competing factors together.

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    One of the things I hear people complain about, especially in social media content, is that “lessons learned from x” posts or “what you can learn from x” posts are both trite and not especially helpful. Why is this the case?

    Very often, these pieces of content don’t offer any insight because their conclusions are very surface, very obvious. For example, there was a piece floating around on LinkedIn back in April about the sinking of the Titanic and lessons businesses could learn.

    For folks who have been around for a while, what could we have gotten from that piece? What conclusions might we have reached that are not obvious? And how do we get to those conclusions, those insights?

    The answer to this, to building content that’s a little more interesting, is to understand what’s wrong in the first place. Most of these content pieces simply describe what’s observable, and that’s why they’re so trite. Want to get a sense of what’s already obvious? Use one of the many writing AIs and ask it to generate a piece. Because they’ve been trained on the most common content – and the most common content is obvious – you’ll get a sense for what’s been done already. Here’s an example:

    I gave the prompt, “Write six paragraphs about lessons marketers could learn from the sinking of the Titanic:”

    Here’s what one of the machines came up with.

    1. Always have a backup plan: The Titanic was sunk by an iceberg, but if the ship had had a backup plan (like a second set of engines), it might have been able to avoid the iceberg altogether.

    2. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket: The Titanic was designed to be unsinkable, but of course, it sank. Marketers should never put all their eggs in one basket and should always have a contingency plan.

    3. Things can go wrong even when you’re prepared: The Titanic was as prepared as possible for sinking, but things still went wrong. Marketers should always be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.

    4. Don’t underestimate your competition: The Titanic was the biggest and best ship of its time, but it still lost to an iceberg. Marketers should never underestimate their competition, no matter how big or small they may be.

    5. Always test your products: The Titanic was tested extensively before it set sail, but it still sunk. Marketers should always test their products thoroughly before releasing them to the public.

    6. Don’t get complacent: The Titanic was the pinnacle of maritime technology, but it still failed. Marketers should always be on the lookout for new and innovative ways to stay ahead of the competition.

    Obvious, right? This content reads like pretty much every common piece you’ve read in blogs and online.

    So what’s the remedy to this? There’s a three step process I use to try finding stuff that people haven’t already covered, or at least covered less frequently: frame, parallel, oppose. (unfortunately, I haven’t come up with a catchy acronym just yet)

    How does this work? Let’s start with frame. What’s the underlying framework of a series of events or something you’re trying to explain? Suppose you’re looking at something like Chernobyl or Titanic. The underlying framework is a series of compounding errors that people made which caused or worsened the natural disasters. Once you distill down a seemingly random collection of facts to a coherent framework, you’re ready to start finding the non-obvious. This, by the way, is usually the point that most content stops at.

    The second step is to parallel. What other frameworks do you know that operate in parallel with the framework you’re working with? For example, let’s take the Titanic framework – a series of poor decisions and mistakes that compounded the problem, like poor/broken communication, bad decisions, and lack of situation awareness. Next, let’s select a parallel framework, like hacking into a company’s systems. Penetration testing has a clear set of operational standards – project scoping, reconnaissance, identification of weaknesses, determining vectors of exploitation, performing the exploits, reporting the findings, and remediating the weaknesses.

    How do you apply a penetration testing framework to the timeline and decisions of the Titanic? Suppose instead of the Titanic accidentally sinking, you wanted to sink it on purpose. What steps from the penetration testing framework would you apply to the Titanic framework of events? Reconnaissance and weakness identification would be your keys to making it happen – from the arrogance of the builders to the crew to the guests themselves. From the perspective of a hacker, everything that went wrong with Titanic is something you could engineer into pretty much any major project, but the root cause of it all is human arrogance. That’s the real, not as obvious theme that weaves through the entire narrative of the Titanic.

    The third step in the framework is to oppose. Flip the script now – knowing the root cause of the Titanic’s sinking was arrogance (“unsinkable!”), where are the vulnerabilities in your company’s marketing operations? What are the arrogant blind spots that a competitor could engineer in your operations? What are the system safeties that could fail to work correctly?

    For example, in your sales scripts, how self-centered are they, knowing that selfish messaging is a symptom of arrogance?

    In your C-Suite, what decisions are your executives making that run contrary to literally every known piece of data available to you?

    In your marketing automation system, how many safeties are built in? For example, GDPR compliance requires that audiences opt-in for the use of their data and you face substantial civil and even criminal penalties for violations of it. Yet there’s an increasing threat of bots and spammers leveraging real people’s data in click farms – how prepared are you to counter that threat? Were you even aware that was a threat?

    By taking a parallel framework and changing our thinking to how we might make an accident like the Titanic happen on purpose, we reveal more to the story that’s useful from a content perspective and create content that isn’t blatantly obvious (and therefore adds little to no value). This meta-framework – frame, parallel, oppose – will help you unlock more value for the content you want to create.

    Here’s an exercise. Go onto Twitter and search for “what marketers can learn from”. Choose any one of the many pieces that pop up and ask yourself – or do as an exercise with your colleagues – how you’d reframe the piece to be much more useful using frame, parallel, and oppose.

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  • Mind Readings: Frameworks and Checklists

    Mind Readings: Frameworks and Checklists

    Strategy and tactics are commonly intermingled and they really shouldn’t be. Here’s the difference.

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    In this episode, the speaker talks about the difference between strategy and tactics. He says that strategy is like a menu, while tactics are like recipes. He suggests that if you want to be doing more strategic work, you should be working with more menus (frameworks). If you want to improve the tactics and execution in your company, you can sit down and make better recipes (checklists).

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    In this episode, let’s talk about frameworks and checklists.

    I was at an event recently Content Marketing World, listening to one session and seeing a presenter kind of commingle strategy and tactics, right.

    What are we going to do? And how are we going to do it kind of thing.

    And they’re commonly intermingled, and they really shouldn’t be because they’re different things, or different things.

    Generally speaking, if you’re talking about strategies, you should be doing things and working with things like frameworks, for example, some kind of framework that helps you eat, elucidate your strategy, and make it easy for people to understand such as Porter’s five forces or a SWOT analysis, or the four P’s of marketing, right? These are frameworks that help you define your strategy.

    The Trust Insights five P model is an example of a framework that applies to a strategy.

    When you’re talking about tactics and execution.

    Frameworks don’t really apply as much there they can to some degree, but at that point, you’re really talking about checklists, right? You’re talking about checklists, almost recipes or cookbooks on how do you do the thing in a repeatable, scalable, efficient, effective manner.

    So if you find yourself working with frameworks, you’re probably doing strategy.

    If you find yourself working with checklists, you’re probably working on tactics and execution, and the vice versa is true.

    If you are being asked for strategy, and you’ve come up with a checklist you’ve not you’ve come up with a set of tactics.

    If you have come up with a framework, then you you’ve probably started on the road to strategy.

    Here’s a good analog for this.

    A strategy is like a menu, right? When you go to a restaurant, and you read the menu, that is a framework, right? There’s appetizers, main courses, desserts, drinks, that framework helps you make decisions about what to have, what should I eat? And, you know, depending on the the restaurant, you go to the you could have a lot of challenging decisions in front of you, like, do I want the cramp or lay later? Do I want the steak? What kind of wine do I want the steak and so on and so forth.

    The tactics and execution, those are the recipes.

    Here’s how to cook a medium rare stick right, you get the center 235 degrees Fahrenheit.

    And don’t let it go above that.

    Here’s how to make mashed potatoes.

    Here’s how to do this.

    Here’s how to make a salad that that tastes good.

    I always salt your tomatoes.

    Because tomatoes contain glutamic acid, adding salt makes it form a natural form of MSG.

    Those are all recipes.

    Right? Very tactical, very executional.

    And can you imagine sitting down in a restaurant, and having someone hand you a cookbook full of recipes and say up here, just use what we have available? You’d be like, I don’t need know how to cook it, man.

    I just want to I just want to order some food.

    Right? Can you imagine working in the kitchen saying okay, so the customer just ordered veal piccata.

    And, and your sous chef just hands you a menu, like know how to cook this thing helped me out here.

    That’s the difference between strategy and tactics, frameworks and checklists.

    Right, the menu is a framework.

    The recipe is a checklist.

    If you are working with one type of content like framework or checklist, you know what you’re working on.

    If you want to be doing more strategic work, right, if you’re you aspiring a career to be doing more strategic work, you should be working with more menus, you should be working with more frameworks, you should be introducing frameworks.

    Even if your company doesn’t do that.

    You could be blogging about it, putting it up on YouTube, things like that.

    That’s how you move from one to the other.

    Right? If you want to improve the tactics and execution in your company, maybe you’re the CMO, maybe your VP of marketing, and your marketing team is just not getting the job done.

    You can sit there and yell like, well, this is this is not aligned with our strategy.

    Or you can say show me your cookbook.

    Show me your recipe show me your checklists show me the order of operations and how you do things.

    And let’s sit down and make better recipes.

    Right so you can step down into tactics execution to sticks and tune them up.

    Christopher Penn 5:03

    But the distinction between the two is really important.

    You don’t want to commingle them.

    You don’t want to mix them up.

    You don’t want to think you’re doing one thing and not the other.

    You don’t want to think that you’re doing strategy, but you’re actually doing tactics because then when someone comes along and says, show me your strategy, and you hand them a recipe, they’re gonna look at you like, you don’t really know what you’re doing, do you? So that’s my suggestion for how to tell whether you are working on strategy or whether you’re working on tactics.

    You’re either working on frameworks or checklists, menus, or recipes.

    Thanks for tuning in.

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  • Mind Readings: No Excuses for Lack of Diversity in Content

    Mind Readings: No Excuses for Lack of Diversity in Content

    With the dawn of AI models that can create many different kinds of content, there’s no excuse any longer for a lack of diversity in content.

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    In this episode of Mind Readings, the speaker talks about diversity in content, specifically visual content. They say that in the past, companies would give excuses for why their content wasn’t diverse, like they couldn’t find anyone suitable or they didn’t have any employees who were diverse. However, with new technology, there are no excuses for not having diverse content. With a few clicks, companies can create any image they want, without having to leave their desk. This means that the only reason companies aren’t being more inclusive in their content is because they are choosing not to be.

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    In this episode of Mind readings, let’s talk about diversity in your content, particularly your visual content.

    One of the things that people have said over the years is that, you know, with, with content they’ve created, when asked, Well, why why is there more representation in your content, people would say things like, you know, we couldn’t find anyone suitable, we don’t have any employees who are in that group of people, we don’t have staff that are that diverse, we didn’t have an aid, the right agency or agency didn’t have the talent.

    And for years, we’ve heard excuse after excuse from Creative organizations and companies that they couldn’t find her for diversity and representation, right in their marketing materials.

    There’s other things at play there, right? Putting aside demographic data in the fact that these folks, some of at least some of them were probably just unwilling to create marketing materials that involves people didn’t look like them.

    Those excuses are now permanently over, like, permanently.

    Why? In the last year, we have seen astonishing astonishing leaps forward in Creative Technologies with things like open AI is Dolly to or hugging faces, and stability, AI is stable diffusion, mid journey, these systems can generate images, right, you give them a text prompt, prompt, and it creates an image.

    And these images are royalty free, they are copyright free.

    They are labor free, in a lot of cases, right? Obviously, you have to generate them.

    But it’s not like you have to go hire a crew of actors and film directors and stuff like that to do a photo shoot.

    And you still get representations of people, right, you still get images that look like people.

    So you can create clipart, stock photography, etc.

    of people of any age, ethnicity, nationality, background gender, without leaving your desk, you don’t have to, you have to leave your chair to do this.

    So instead of the stock image, you know, like two people sitting at a meeting, you know, staring awkwardly at each other, you can create that and not have to pay a stock photography company, the licensing keyboard, which means that you can ask these machines for different people, right, instead of saying to two guys sitting at a table, right in an office, you could type in an Indian man and a black woman sitting at a table and an office, right.

    And it will create and render semi realistic images or paintings or watercolors or whatever medium you want to choose.

    That would be totally appropriate for business use, write it all in all clipart we use all looks the same anyway.

    It’s it’s people in nice suits to having conversations, etc.

    No one would blink an eye about it.

    But that generic clipart image can now represent whoever you want it to represent.

    Right? Maybe you do live in an area where there are no Latino people.

    Oh, well now now you can just type in Latino man and a black woman at a data desk in an office, right? Or a Latino man and an Indian woman talking at a water cooler, all the all the typical marketing imagery.

    And you don’t have to go and find talent.

    You don’t have to rent a location.

    You generate this image quality you German right the stuff of this artificial intelligence.

    Which means there are no excuses anymore for you to not have diverse populations represented in your marketing materials.

    None.

    With a few typed commands a few clicks your mouse.

    You can create literally any grouping of people you want.

    Right, you can create three black women in grey business suits.

    Holding iPads sitting at a conference room table and machines will create a credible representation of that.

    You might need to tune it up with like GFP Gan to tune up the faces a little bit but you can create it If you can make it you can have it you can use it in your marketing materials.

    Christopher Penn 5:07

    Which means that from today on from this day forward, the only reason you are not being more inclusive in your marketing materials is because you are making a conscious choice not to be right, you are making a conscious choice not to be when the alternatives are free and relatively easy.

    That’s the important part.

    As of today, with these tools you can make free like unlicensed, relatively easy imagery of any kind of people you want.

    And some of the artwork that people are creating with these tools is astonishing.

    It’s so realistic and look so good.

    You’re not being represented because you choose not to be you’re not being inclusive, because you choose not to be and customers consumers remember the public will absolutely start to judge you that way.

    Because creating five Guatemalan kids make a building a battle robot is within these creative tools capabilities.

    So you choosing people who only look like you, whoever you are, means that you’re making a conscious choice not to be inclusive when being inclusive is just as easy and just as low cost.

    That’s today’s thoughts.

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  • Mind Readings: Peer Pressure

    Mind Readings: Peer Pressure

    At a recent event I was at, I spoke to someone who had some very interesting things to say about why they don’t wear a mask.

    Summary:

    In today’s episode, the speaker is talking about peer pressure. He was at an event recently, where he was wearing a mask, and his colleague said that he felt pressure not to wear a mask because nobody else was. The speaker was stunned, and he thought about how much the opinion of somebody else matters to him. He decided that he was going to live his life the way he wanted to, and not let the opinions of others dictate his choices.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about let’s talk about peer pressure.

    I was at an event recently, and as, as I do, I was wearing my super heavy duty Gentex ops core mask my tactical respirator, which makes me look like bein really cool, very comfortable.

    And I was at a party.

    And this colleague of mine says, oh, man, look at you, representing wearing a mask via doing the right thing.

    And this person was saying, you know, my, my partner was on my case, making sure that was going to wear a mask this week.

    And he goes, but I just I just feel such peer pressure when I’m at these things to not wear masks because nobody else’s.

    And you do this, imagine a needle on the record scratching noise my, my like, what? What episode, did you What did you decide to do? Just say, you feel peer pressure to not wear a mask.

    I was stunned.

    I was absolutely stunned.

    I appreciated my colleagues, you know, honesty.

    And it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other, whether somebody else wears a mask around me I wear a mask because a it keeps me safe and be really cool.

    And see it’s super comfortable.

    And so I have no, I really don’t care one way or the other, whether someone else is wearing a mask around me or not.

    doesn’t make me feel better or worse in any event, but listening to that person say that they felt such peer pressure as as a grown adult, right as a, because this person is probably around my age, my other 40s I was speechless.

    absolutely speechless.

    How much does the opinion of somebody else matter to you? I did not say this out loud to my friend because I just wanted to let them enjoy their evening.

    But that’s that’s what occurred to me.

    How much does someone else’s opinion matter to you is it matter so much, that in a pandemic, which we’re still in, as of 2022, you would take additional risk, which you could avoid, you could avert, but you don’t, because you value the opinions of other people more than you value taking care of yourself.

    And we see this play out in so many different aspects of life, right? We see people by status objects, cars, and houses and all sorts of things.

    Because of the, the gratification, the stimulus that they get from their peers, about what their purchase, right, it makes them feel better about themselves.

    And to me, that seems like something we should have left behind a while ago.

    Right? Like it was totally normal in high school.

    You know, we were in our teens, who had the coolest backpack or the nicest clothes or whatever.

    But once you get out and about in the world, and you start realizing that the only person who’s really responsible for your happiness is you.

    That stuff should start to fade away, that stuff should start to fall apart when realizing that somebody else’s opinion of you, particularly if that person is not paying you money, or involved with you in a romantic relationship or intimate relationship.

    Why does their opinion matter? If I go to an event, and everyone else is not wearing a mask, I’m wearing a mask because I like it.

    It doesn’t occur to me to think Oh, Gosh, I wonder if these other people are gonna think of me, I don’t really care.

    I mean, not to say that.

    I don’t appreciate the people around me, but their opinion has nothing to do with me and my opinion has nothing to do with them.

    Right? Whether or not somebody else is wearing a mask again, doesn’t matter to me.

    I can express my opinion to them if they asked for it.

    I don’t feel the need to express my opinion, if they don’t because it’s otherwise not my business.

    So do you live your life the way you want to, I live my life the way I want to, but to have someone and this is, you know, we’re this is a group of folks who are similar to me, we’re all public speakers, we’re all reasonably well known with our industry.

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    Just to hear that expression of still feeling peer pressure at four decades of age, was really shocking.

    And my hope, my hope is that for all of us, that’s something that we transcend, that’s something we leave behind, right to say, you know, what, I’m going to dress the way I want, or I’m going to be involved in relationships with the people I want, I’m going to wear the protective measures that I want pandemic, and be okay with that and be okay with you if other people like, Oh, he’s wearing a mask.

    So what I was thinking about why this stuff doesn’t bother me as much.

    And I think it has a lot to do with the martial arts experience I’ve had over the last 30 some odd years.

    You realize very quickly, that when you’re for example, my my black belt test was basically an organized mugging.

    It gives you a lot of perspective.

    When you’re sitting in a room full of people, and they’re not beating you up, it’s like, okay, cool.

    This is great.

    You know, someone’s saying, Oh, well, you know, look at Chris, he’s got that weird mask.

    Yeah.

    And you’re not punching me in the face.

    So I feel like things are going pretty well, compared to some of the days I’ve had.

    You know, if there’s somebody at this for guys, like, holding me down, somebody’s punching me in the face.

    That’s pretty severe.

    Right? That’s, that’s feedback that is harder to deal with, than somebody saying, you know, making snarky remarks about what I’m wearing.

    So I hope that in your own life, if peer pressure is something that bothers you, that you can find the perspective you need to free yourself from it to to put in a little box and put it aside and say, You know what, I’m gonna do the things that make me happy.

    When things make me feel safe.

    One of the things that you enjoy, and whatever someone else’s opinion of it is.

    They’re entitled to their opinion, but they’re not entitled to make you change because of their opinion.

    So give that some thought, because that’s important.

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  • Mind Readings: What Exactly is a Brand Voice?

    Mind Readings: What Exactly is a Brand Voice?

    At a recent event, I listened to a discussion about brand voice and it occurred to me that there really isn’t such a thing.

    Summary:

    A brand voice is the way a company or brand chooses to communicate with the public. It is the aggregate voice of the people who run that brand, the people who are in marketing, the people who are stakeholders and executives, and how they want that thing to sound. Most corporate brand voices are watered down because they are created by committees. It is better to have a few people who are authorized to speak on behalf of a brand and follow specific guidelines and restrictions.

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    In this episode, let’s talk about brand voice.

    At a recent event Content Marketing World, I listened to Ann Handley present her talk about brand voice and was a really good talk a lot of fun talking about how brand voice can can differentiate you.

    But I, it occurred to me and as I was listening to the talk, as I was listening to her to go through some of these examples.

    I’m not sure that brand voice exists.

    Well, let me rephrase it, I’m not sure that brand voice exists as a coherent entity most of the time.

    And here’s why.

    When we talk about a voice, we’re talking about something like you and I, right now, right, I’m speaking to you in my literal voice.

    And I’m using words and grammatical structures and vocabulary that are unique to me, right, that are part and parcel of how I grew up how I was educated, and ultimately how I choose to present myself.

    And a brand voice is, in theory, the aggregate voice of a brand, right? It’s the aggregate voice of the people who run that brand, the people who are in marketing the people who are stakeholders and executives, and how they want that thing to sound.

    You can imagine that, and this is why most corporate brand voices are awful, you know, anything by committee is generally going to create less distinct results than anything done by an individual.

    They may, you know, what an individual may create maybe better or worse, you know, higher or lower quality, but it’s distinct to that individual, when you start synthesizing voices together, blending people’s voices together, you’re gonna get sort of a watered down sounding voice, you’re gonna get a watered down point of view, especially if there are multiple layers of approvals and things like that, where the legal team has to weigh in and stuff.

    And so that got me thinking, Is there even such a thing as a brand voice? Or is there a person, or maybe a couple of people who are authorized to speak on behalf of a brand, and follow obviously specific guidelines and restrictions, but essentially, are proxies for that brand’s voice? For example, when we look at an example from our talk about the people who write the captions for Stranger Things on Netflix, at the end of the day, that’s one person and actually highlights this person in her talk.

    That’s one person’s voice that is working on behalf of the brand.

    But it is not a brand voice.

    If you polled 50 People at Netflix, you know, we’re working even on that production, that those are probably not the words that they would have chosen.

    If you think about your own company, how does your company decide how to sound? Right? This is something that, for example, Katie, and I Trust Insights, as the CO owners, we have very different voices, right? And so when you look at the content that we create, for Trust Insights is relatively straightforward to figure out who wrote what, right you can read a piece of text and go okay, that was definitely written by Katie, or that was definitely written by Chris.

    And there isn’t a voice that we have that is a an amalgamation of the two of us, because we’re just such different people.

    And we’re the owners, right? So we are the stakeholders.

    Now imagine a marketing team in place, a PR team in place trying to pitch this thing out and communicate into the world.

    I, I’m not sure that there would be a brand voice that would be as effective as a person’s voice.

    Now, can you have agreed upon standards? Absolutely.

    You can say yeah, there’s a style guide or these you know, there’s certain things we do or don’t do.

    And maybe you do use profanity, maybe you don’t use profanity, maybe you reference pop culture, maybe you don’t, but at least when we think about the voice of a brand, unless you’re the Borg right and hear your voices.

    No resistance is futile.

    You will be assimilated.

    I don’t know how valuable it is to try and and create one as opposed to finding the people within your organization who have the

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    voice that you’re looking for.

    People who can write, and speak and create content in a way that you think reflects well on the brand.

    And letting that team do their work, right, letting people create stuff.

    Obviously helping them collaborate, obviously helping them communicate.

    Obviously making sure everyone is on the same page about what’s going on and what you should be doing.

    But at the end of the day, if you find that your content is so watered down, that it is meaningless corporate dreck.

    It might be time to let individual people speak on behalf of the brand.

    They don’t necessarily take credit or be, you know, in front of the camera or anything.

    But there’s something to that, I think, because we as humans, as people, we resonate best with other people, right? I don’t go to sleep at night dreaming of a brand, right? I have dreams about people I know.

    I might interact with a brand’s products and that dream, but I don’t have a conversation with that brand.

    I don’t imagine having a chatbot session speaking to this Borg voice of a brand.

    So give that some thought.

    give that some thought about whether you’re taking the route of an amalgamated sort of bloodless and soulless voice or whether you’re letting the individual voices of people who are authorized to speak on behalf of your company.

    You’re letting those voices shine through.

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  • Mind Readings: Advanced Questions

    Mind Readings: Advanced Questions

    At a recent event, one of the speakers talked about answering the advanced questions. That got me wondering… what exactly are the advanced questions, anyway?

    Summary:

    In this episode, the speaker talks about how to create content for key stakeholders, instead of commodity content that search engines would find. He talks about how there are two or three different models and frameworks for getting to things like advanced questions or to any advanced topic. The first framework he talks about is the “how, what, why” framework. The second framework is the Google “hero, hub, help” model. He talks about how research is a big part in finding these advanced questions. He talks about how to create hero content, and how it takes a lot of time and effort to create truly original and unique content.

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    In this episode, let’s talk about the advanced questions.

    At a recent event, I was at Content Marketing World, Drew Davis did a great keynote talking about rarely answered questions on how we can create content for key stakeholders instead of commodity content that search engines would find.

    And I got me wondering, what exactly are the advanced questions anyway? There’s two or three different models and frameworks for getting to things like advanced questions or to any advanced topic.

    So the, the, the premise of Drew’s talk was that the Frequently Asked Questions are very often tactical questions that have a gazillion answers, right.

    They’re frequently asked questions.

    How do you do this? How do you do that? And if we think about the types of questions people will ask, How was a very common question, how do you do this thing? Right? How do you get more followers on Instagram or something along those lines? The second tier up sort of goes slightly more advanced would be a what question, what is Instagram? Right? What is the purpose of having followers and so on and so forth? And then the highest tier would be the why questions? Why would you even do this? And why do you care about this thing? In his talk, he mentions, one of the rarely answered asked questions is, why does content marketing take so long to work? Right? There’s plenty of questions on how long it takes to work, but very few pieces of content a why it takes so long to work.

    So that how what, why framework is very useful for trying to determine what those more advanced questions are.

    At the higher levels.

    I mean, Simon Sinek has been talking about this for a number of years, the whole start with why premise of asking really challenging questions about your brand, why do you show up to work? Why does your company exist? And so on and so forth? These are questions that you’re not going to Google and answer for.

    Right? There’s no, there’s no way to Google what is my company about? That is something that you have to answer.

    But that is absolutely something that a CEO or CMO will be interested in.

    The second framework, which mirrors the how what why framework very closely is Google’s hero hub help model and they use this for content marketing, specifically, they advise creators that there’s there should be a large pyramid of at the bottom of the pyramid sort of help content? How do you do things right how to make bearnaise sauce.

    Then there’s hub content, which is sort of monthly, bigger pieces that you promote more that you spend more money on that are more, they’re less execution more tactical.

    And then of course, there’s the Hero Pieces, the once a quarter big splash pieces of content that you roll out big premieres, for example, on your YouTube channel.

    And this hero hub helped model is there a suggestion for making content that does well, now, the hero hub help model sort of goes against what Drew was talking about in the sense that Google advises you create a lot of help content, relatively frequent hub content, and then relatively infrequent help a hero content because the hero content takes a lot longer to create, requires more investment of resources, more promotion, and requires really having these big ideas on a fairly frequent basis, some kind of big idea or big concept.

    For folks who have written books or given conference talks, you know, that big ideas are tough to create, right? truly original, unique, big ideas.

    They take a lot of effort, creating help content, tactical how to content.

    That’s easy.

    That’s that’s straightforward.

    Here’s the difference between that the strategy that drew presented and the strategy that that Google presents, Google is trying to get you traffic, right.

    Regardless of quality, they just want eyeballs on your content, because that benefits them.

    The more eyeballs that they have on YouTube, the more ads they can sell.

    But it does also jumpstart your community right because of your can attract a lot of people who are very tactically minded, that can create a community for you.

    Now, one of the things you have to do is if you’re going to take that approach out, you have to approach it for a long period of time, because if you want those people and your audience to be strategists and sees We,

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    you could be dealing with people, you know, in your audience for 10 to 15 years, right, as they ascend the hierarchies in their organizations, they naturally become more senior over time.

    And you’re able to take those relationships and work with them.

    But it takes 10 to 15 years, right? If you’re trying to get results, sooner rather than later, you might be better off flipping that and going for as much hero content as you can afford, targeted at the highest levels of a company.

    How else do you get advanced questions? Well, a big part is research.

    There is no substitute for going out to your target audience, people you really want to talk to? And asking them, what are the tough questions that you have? What are the questions that you’ve not been able to find the answers to? What are the challenges that are taking longer than you think.

    And this because your audience at those highest levels is not going to be huge, you’re not going to be rolling out a massive survey, you’re probably going to be bending someone’s ear at a conference, right? Maybe scheduling a one on one call if you can get onto somebody’s calendar, things like that looking at aggregating research done by other research firms that do have that level of access, if you don’t, to put together what those questions are.

    That’s challenging for a lot of organizations, right? And that’s challenging for any kind of research.

    Because if you want to talk to the fortune 50 CMOS, well guess what everybody else does, too.

    And it can be very tricky to get a hold of them.

    So you might have to look at people that level of seniority, but maybe not at the biggest companies with the understanding that a lot of the challenges that maybe someone in the Fortune 1000 is facing, probably at least some of them, there’s some overlap with challenges of the Fortune 50.

    Right.

    Think about ROI and marketing.

    We know what ROI is, you know, that’s that’s an easy question.

    It’s earned minus spent divided by spent, it’s a very common financial formula.

    We know less about what are the best ways to calculate ROI.

    And one of the challenging questions is why is ROI so difficult to compute? And why is this seemingly simple formulas? So out of reach for a lot of people? Why do consulting firms get paid millions of dollars to get that answer? That would be that sort of hero level content, and you’d have to invest some time in it.

    Think about hero content, like writing a book, right? When you write a book, this thing probably has a big idea in some kind.

    And it’s going to take you a long time, anywhere from six to 18 months to crank this out.

    So if you want a cadence of hero content, you’re going to need to have essentially, four books in progress at any given time throughout the year to crank out one per quarter.

    That should help you calibrate level of investment, you need to create those advanced questions to create the hero content that would answer those advanced questions.

    So that’s some thinking about how we can extrapolate from that particular talk into something we can do.

    Right? Your first step is going to be doing the research and then figuring out how you’re going to create the content about those multiple big ideas at the same time.

    So that’s today’s mind readings.

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