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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adopting Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adopting Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

    Kait asks, “How do you suggest to go about to creating a data-driven strategy standard and breaking the “because we’ve always done it this way” mentality?”

    Strategy is always a sale. Every sale has to answer the question, “What’s in it for me?” for the buyer. Not what’s best for the company, for the organization, for the big picture – what does that person get out of it? There’s a reason we call such efforts obtaining buy-in – people need to be convinced to buy.

    The greatest challenge is when people don’t understand the value of data or the decisions you plan to make from it. That comes from past efforts where you collected data but didn’t do anything with it, and thus had no results to show for it. Becoming data-driven means making decisions with data, and as with everything, if you can show early, easy wins, you’ll build momentum for your strategy.

    You Ask, I Answer: Adopting Data-Driven Marketing Strategy?

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    In today’s episode, Kate asks, How do you suggest to go about creating a data driven strategy standard and breaking the, because we’ve always done it this way mentality? So the the mentality of we’ve always done it this way, is one of comfort and security of predictability.

    We’ve always done it this way.

    means that, yes, you’ll always get what you’ve always gotten.

    But if things have been good, there, it’s difficult to sell that change.

    The greatest challenge to data driven strategy is that people do not understand the data, or the value of the data, and thus, don’t see a reason to change the decision making process.

    And it’s understandable why people feel that way.

    But a lot of the time when you have people who are not skilled at analytics, working with data, you get a lot of what Avinash Kaushik tolle calls data puking, where you just pour a pile of data on somebody’s desk and say, here, here’s the data.

    And they’re like, What am I supposed to do with this is not helpful.

    Part of the reason why it takes so long to change people’s minds is they don’t see that the decisions that you make from data are any better than the decisions that you made without the data, right? If, especially in cases where the data is confirmatory, where it says, Yeah, you know what, you made the right choice all along.

    And people go, why do we spend, you know, x months and X dollars? doing this exercise, you’re gonna tell me what I already knew.

    That’s where you have to take a step back and say, okay, is being data driven, a good fit for the organization, and there are organizations where it is not, for good or ill, there are situations where it’s an uphill battle, and you won’t realize any benefit.

    Particularly if you have people who are not just hesitant, but outright hostile, that is a boulder as a hill, you don’t want to push a boulder up.

    So being data driven, means making decisions with data.

    And as with everything, the easiest way to get people to change how they do things is to show some wins, show some early easy wins, that can help you build momentum for strategy, especially if it’s something that requires very little effort on your part, and can show somebody Oh, this is really cool.

    Like, I didn’t know that real simple example of you fire up Google Trends, right? And you can show just some basic search volume changes in something that a person cares about, and go, Oh, ha, I didn’t know that people searched more for my product or service in June, I thought they were searching more for in in August, when we typically see them in our CRM, and you can say, No, that’s true.

    People are searching for our product or service or whatever, two months before they contact us.

    So we can market to them early and think, Oh, that’s a decision, I understand.

    I’m going to market to them when they’re looking for it.

    And they’ll be more likely to buy it.

    So it’s looking for the early easy wins as best as you possibly can to build momentum for data driven strategy.

    strategy in general, but data driven strategy in particular is a sale.

    There’s a reason why when we talk about getting agreement on something, it’s called buy in, right, somebody is buying our strategy.

    And what is being exchanged is their time, their resources, possibly the people, certainly their patients are all currencies, of buy in to a new strategy.

    And yet, we do not approach strategy as a sale.

    Right? We’ll talk about all this this is the the trend that the industry is going in, or this is best for the organization.

    Right? How does that work? When someone’s trying to convince you to buy something? It doesn’t I there’s there’s no compelling value there to you.

    So when we have to approach data driven marketing, and data driven strategy, we’ve got to approach it from the perspective of a sale, not what’s best for the company, not what’s best for the analytics department or the IT department of the marketing department.

    But what is best for the person that has to buy in? What’s in it for them? Right, every sale has to answer the question, what’s in it for me for the buyer? Are we going to give the buyer of our data driven marketing strategy, better results? Are they gonna make more revenue? Are they gonna hit their numbers more easily? Are they gonna look better in front of the boss? What is for sale? What? What is it that they said, You know what? I want that? That looks good, I want that.

    And a lot of the things that we put in front of somebody for a data driven strategy aren’t all that appealing.

    Right? Oh, it’s, it’s the way the technology is moving.

    Great.

    That’s not a compelling reason to buy something.

    Right? Just because a company comes out with a new smartphone.

    And it’s like, minuscule differences from the model you have? Is that a reason to buy it? No.

    Right? You have to have some compelling emotional reason for the person to buy in to data driven strategy.

    So because we’ve always done it this way is a position of security is a position of comfort.

    The buy in, therefore is discomfort that someone is buying in with their discomfort, what do you have to sell, that makes the discomfort worth it? So early wins, easy wins, look at things that don’t require their data, look at search data, look at social media data, look at media data in general, look at data from your existing systems, and what can you say like, Hey, this is a decision that we would make better if we had this information, or Hey, I looked at the data.

    And have you tried doing it this way.

    And instead of being a hard pressure sales person, right, which nobody loves those, be a consultative salesperson, right? Think about it as How can I counsel and advise this person to make the right choice for them, to show them that the value of what they’re buying is worth it is worth more than the investment they’re making.

    And present your data driven strategy that way as a trusted advisor, rather than using role power in an organization use relationship power.

    That’s how you get buy in, that’s how you get someone to adopt a data driven strategy is to say that I clearly see what’s in it for me, I want to buy that I’m comfortable enough to being uncomfortable, because I see the benefits of what’s in it for me.

    And that requires a lot of hand holding, right? Because anytime we’re going to make a major system change, for example, switching from Google Analytics, three to Google Analytics for because it, it offers you more flexibility.

    flexibility in this case is kind of intangible.

    And there’s a lot of pain associated with that change.

    So what is the thing that you can show that says, oh, wow, that’s really valuable.

    We got to make that change, because I want more of that.

    Right? So that’s the way that I would approach getting someone to make a change, for adopting a data driven strategy.

    Standard is to say, when you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always gotten, and if you’re happy with what you’ve gotten, okay, but what if you could get this instead? What if you could get, you know, 20% better results? Would you want to be able to show your boss 20% growth or whatever the number is will based on your own research that you’ve done? That’s how you get by it.

    Then we go.

    Yeah, I kind of want that.

    So, if you got follow up questions, leave in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Who is an SEO Expert?

    You Ask, I Answer: Who is an SEO Expert?

    Masha asks, “What does it really mean to be an SEO expert? Considering the depth and breadth of SEO, is it even possible to be an expert on all aspects of SEO?”

    It depends on how we define SEO itself. SEO, or search engine optimization, is all about optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic, unpaid search. (the companion is SEM, or search engine marketing, for paid search) There are four branches of SEO – technical, onsite, offsite, and content, and each is a profession unto itself.

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    In today’s episode, Masha asks, what does it really mean to be an SEO expert considering the depth and breadth of SEO? Is it even possible to be an expert in all aspects of SEO? That’s a good question.

    But it depends how we define SEO because as Marsha points out, it is a very broad discipline, there’s a lot to it.

    Fundamentally, SEO is the process of optimizing our digital properties to be found in organic unpaid search, hence the name SEO or search engine optimization.

    The companion piece to this is SEM, which is the ability to to have your paid stuff, rank well.

    Now, to be an SEO expert, you’ve got to be able to essentially generate good results in search, right at the end of the day.

    If you’re not driving traffic, and leads and conversions and ultimately revenue through organic search, you’re not an expert.

    It doesn’t matter how many tricks or how arcane your knowledge is, if you can’t generate results, you’re not an expert.

    Now, the question is, which aspects of SEO Do you have specialization in and there’s four major branches of SEO, there’s technical SEO, which is where you’re looking at the server’s themselves, right, the technical infrastructure.

    And this, this is almost borders on it.

    So caching HTTPS, server side certificates, HTTP two minifying your content using a CDN, all the technical things that go into a website, and how well it runs, how smooth of an experience is the back end architecture.

    And there is a tremendous amount that you can do with services, for example, like CloudFlare, that can help improve your server’s performance.

    Because one of the things that that is taken to account in SEO is, how quickly does your page load? Google does this for its mobile, first indexing, how fast is a page on a mobile device.

    And as of May of 2021, the core web vitals will be a part and parcel of search rankings, how quickly how a web page paints, how long it takes to load stuff, those will function as part of the rankings.

    Google made this announcement not too long ago.

    So that’s one aspect of SEO.

    The second is on site, SEO, and this, we talked about structure of stuff on site.

    So proper schema, proper markup, JSON LD, all the technical stuff that you can do on a webpage itself, to make it function correctly understanding how for example, how Google renders a page, and how Google indexes pages and structuring your content to function while making a page is mobile responsive, making them free of errors, you know, no, for forced making sure your internal linking structure is good.

    There’s a tremendous amount of stuff that again, goes into on site, technical SEO, using the right plugins and making sure the plugins are configured correctly.

    is all part of on site SEO.

    The third part is content.

    Content is not necessarily the we differentiate it from onsight.

    In that onsight is technical stuff content is the content itself.

    The topics you’re writing about the words, the phrases, the semantic associations, the the interactivity of content, the media types, the making the stuff, right, How valuable is the stuff, you know, for example, on on, on this show, we’ve got a YouTube video got an audio podcast, we’ve got the blog post that goes with this, got the imagery, all that is the content.

    And there are things you can do to optimize your content.

    simple stuff, for example, like with YouTube videos, if you’re not uploading a closed captions file, you’re kind of doing it wrong.

    If you want your videos to be found on on YouTube itself on your own site, making sure you’ve got transcripts for any kind of rich media to make sure that there’s enough text for Google to crawl, making sure that you’re using words and phrases and topics that are relevant to what people are searching for in the language, they search for it.

    So doing a tremendous amount of research into your audience to figure out okay, this is how my audience asks this question.

    So I should answer this question in that same language.

    And then the fourth branch of SEO is off site SEO.

    And this looks a lot like public relations.

    This is doing outreach.

    Making sure that you’re getting links to your articles, you’re getting links to your website, you’re getting links to all the relevant content.

    You spend all that time creating, building relationships with media outlets, influencers, other bloggers, other websites, appearing on podcasts, appearing on people’s YouTube shows and live streams and essentially building a brand around the content that you’ve built.

    So that when Google and other search engines index, all the links that are out there, you have a fair number of inbound links headed your way.

    Each of these branches of SEO is a profession unto itself, right technical SEO, like set is like it off site.

    SEO is like PR, content marketing its own thing.

    On site SEO is, you know that a lot of ways the job that we used to call back in the early 2000s, a webmaster right, all four professions? And can you be expert on all four of them? Yes, you can.

    You will, you can be proficient at all four are you do have enough time in the day to do all four on a frequent basis, probably not.

    Particularly offside, offside is one of the most time consuming parts of SEO, if you do it well.

    If you do it poorly, it’s, it’s not so time consuming, but you don’t get good results that way.

    And so you will probably have a specialization in one or two of these areas, but not necessarily all for you, you won’t do all four all the time.

    Most of the time, though, if you have enough knowledge to be competent, each of the four areas, you can then contract out with agencies, or contractors or partners or whoever to handle aspects that you’re not as proficient at, or you just don’t have time to do.

    So for example, with technical I mentioned a service like CloudFlare.

    That’s is a great supplement to your technical SEO capability.

    So it’s not a replacement for knowing what you’re doing.

    But it is something that you can offload some of those tasks.

    With off site, if you have a really good public relations team, they can handle an awful lot of that workload, getting you links to your stuff as they pitch the just giving them the guidance.

    Hey, as you pitch the story, make sure that you get us a link to back to our website.

    When it comes to content marketing, if you know that you need to work on video and video is not your strength, and you work with contractors to help produce videos and stuff.

    And then you use transcription software or transcription contractors to build the content for Trent to be transcribed.

    But you want that experience, you want that knowledge in each of the four areas so that you can act as a manager act as a project manager or coordinator to help keep your SEO efforts on tracks.

    And there’s a fifth area that is not SEO tactics, that is important.

    That is Seo management, being able to coordinate to build project plans to keep a team moving in the right direction to broker arrangements with other contractors and agencies, particularly when you have inter agency conflicts.

    Those are all skills that are sort of at that fifth, a morphus all encompassing area of SEO and again, like project management a profession of its own.

    So an SEO expert has proficiency in at least one of these areas.

    They have knowledge of all four, and they have a specialization in at least one.

    And can you be expert on all of them? Yes.

    If it’s all you ever do day in and day out and you fulfill those different roles for different clients or within a company? Yes, you can be expert in all of it.

    But you will still have a strength probably in one area in particular.

    That’s a good question.

    It’s an important question because a lot of people still 20 years later, are a little fuzzy on SEO.

    So important, important stuff to know.

    You got follow up questions on this? Leave it in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

    Sandeep asks, “How do you stay aware of new marketing trends?”

    The answer here is straightforward: your communities. The communities you belong to will lead you to what’s new, especially in private communities where members aren’t being blitzed by spam and ads all the time, like Discord and Slack. Join a handful, show up, and listen.

    You Ask, I Answer: Staying Aware of Marketing Trends?

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    In today’s episode, Sandeep asks, How do you stay aware of new marketing trends? Okay, well, the answer here is relatively straightforward.

    Your communities, your communities that you belong to, are the ones that will be providing you intelligence on what’s new on, on what’s happening.

    And based on the questions that people ask if you belong to Facebook groups would not be my first choice.

    But LinkedIn groups, a slack servers, discord servers, wherever it is that you spend time online with your peers.

    Those are the communities where you’ll see people asking questions.

    Hey, has anyone heard of this Tiktok thing? Hey, has anyone joined parlour? Has anyone done this? Has anyone done that? And after you see it a couple times in the feed, you go, Okay, this is a thing that we need to pay attention to? That would be the very straightforward answer.

    Now, here’s the catch.

    It requires time, it requires you to invest the time in joining those communities, and stopping by and listening, doing your own assessments of them.

    And then ultimately, making decisions and doing some research based on what you find.

    If you’re not a member, of any communities, or significant ones, where you’re getting enough intelligence, that’s probably the first place to start.

    So go to, you know, go to Facebook, go to LinkedIn, hunt around in the bigger public groups that you’re a member of, you know, social media marketing, world group, secret team, any of these the larger communities.

    Those would be the first places to start and ask people, hey, what slack servers or discord servers do you belong to.

    And again, you can join, if people are willing to let you know that they exist, they probably want you to join them.

    For example, the analytics for marketers community on Slack, it’s the one that my company runs Trust Insights, go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for markers.

    There’s about 1400 people in there.

    And the most recent questions have been very heavily about things like Google Analytics for so after enough of those you go, okay, there’s clearly I think here, if you’re unfamiliar, this is what a slack group looks like, this is the spin sucks community from Spin sucks.com.

    And this is about 1000.

    I think maybe more than that, people who are talking about media relations, public relations, community management, influencers, etc.

    The most recent question on, you know, ebooks, ebook formats.

    So what you will find is, these communities are great sources of intelligence.

    The more that you participate in them, the more that you become a, a full fledged member in the sense of being active in the community, the more people will ask you specific things that you might have answers to as well.

    And that is of great benefit, because then you’re going to get the tough questions about things that you have expertise about.

    And that may indicate new use cases, new challenges, etc.

    For example, I’m this morning and one of my community, someone was asking where the referral exclusions are in Google Analytics for they’re missing, they’re not there.

    You have to have a packet yourself.

    But that’s not something that I would have thought to talk about.

    Unless someone from one of my communities asked the question.

    With a lot of these online communities, too, you can ask people like, hey, what things are you working on? What things are you trying out what’s crossed your desk recently? That’s new.

    And again, get some useful information, folks, as long as you have a reputation in that community for being a a upstanding member, if you will.

    Just lurking I’ve been asking a question out of the blue every now and again, it’s probably not as effective as you contributing answers and help to the communities feeding the communities with your insights.

    Now, you can do this with more public sources, like Twitter, for example.

    But you tend to get a lot more junk that way.

    You tend to get a lot more junk and a lot more self promotional stuff.

    A lot of these communities, particularly on slack and discord are strictly non promotional.

    To the point where members will be expelled, if they’re, you know, out there Hawking their stuff.

    And that’s what you want.

    You want places where the actual discussion has happens.

    The really critical thing though, is that you need a community for your customers.

    Where do your customers spend time online? You know, depending on who your customers are, it could be an old fashioned, you know, bulletin board system.

    It could be a web forum, it could be an email list.

    It could be a slack group, it could be a Discord server, it could be any of any of these places where people hang out.

    But you need to figure out where your customers are hanging out.

    And then spending time in those places to stay in tune with your customers, not just marketing trends, but what are your customers up to? What questions do they have? And this, you can only get that through asking them.

    So if you’ve got an email list, send out an email saying, hey, what online communities are you members of? And where do we find them? We want to show up and listen.

    Is there a Discord server so if you are a gaming company, you better have not only your own Discord server, but you better know, you know, the top five or six in your industry and be listening constantly to see what people are talking about there.

    If you’re in b2b, yeah, you better have your own slack group.

    But then you better be joining you know, other networking, slack groups that can provide you useful intelligence about what your customers care about.

    Because with a lot of these communities, especially ones that are private, that are not in the Facebook ecosystem, you get more honest conversation.

    So you can ask people, hey, what do you think of TrustInsights.ai Oh, god, these people is so difficult to work with.

    And that can give you some really good unfiltered feedback about your company and help you understand where you stand in your ecosystem, where you stand, stand in the world of trends around your company’s products and services.

    So that’s how you stay aware of marketing trends, you spend time with people who you care about, and you listen to them.

    And then, as appropriate, you adjust your marketing strategy based on the things that they’re talking about.

    And if you’re not doing that, you’re kind of flying blind.

    You’re kind of not tuned in to the pulse of your customers, and the things they care about.

    One of the things you’ve got to find out, by the way, no, particularly with marketing technology, is that your customers lag behind you a fair amount of time unless you yourself are lagging pretty far fine.

    But things like good old fashioned email newsletter may still be the best way to reach your customers.

    Despite all these new technologies and platforms, your customers might be there, but you may not be engaged there.

    Whereas a simple email newsletter may generate more business for your company than all these social networks put together.

    So keep that in mind that and that’s why having that community of your customers is so important so that you can listen to them and go, Oh, we’re gonna launch this whole new thing, but turns out nobody cares about that thing.

    Right? That’s, that’s the value of these communities.

    Good question.

    You have follow up questions about communities? Leave in the comments below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel in the newsletter and join the slack group.

    Go to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers join the slack group you can ask questions.

    In fact, somebody just asked question seconds ago and saw my notification pop up about Google Analytics for so join the slack group join the communities that can benefit you the most to keep an eye on those marketing trends.

    Thanks for watching.

    I’ll talk to you soon take care.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trend and Strategy Alignment?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trend and Strategy Alignment?

    Yulia asks, “How will you know if a marketing trend is right for your business or brand or whether you should stay clear of it?”

    The answer to this question is straightforward: how well does a trend align to four key factors:

    • Audience
    • Values
    • Offers
    • Creative

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    In today’s episode, Yulia asks How will you know if a marketing trend is right for your business or brand? Or whether you should stay clear of it? This is a good question because there’s obviously always lots of new things to try out lots of new things to explore new social networks, new tactics, new strategies.

    And the answer to this question is relatively straightforward.

    There’s a framework that Bob stone came up with, I think, was Bob stone 1968.

    Was that 61? for direct marketing, called list offer creative, right? And back, then it was do you have the right list for direct mail? Do you have the right offer to put in front of the customer, and you have the right creative, meaning the actual mail piece itself, and if there’s a lack of alignment, in those, any of those components, the campaigns that you put out simply won’t work? We can repurpose stones framework for this with an additional piece, which is values.

    So when you’re looking at any new application, for example, or a new technology, the first thing you have to ask yourself is, does it resonate with your audience, and you have to do some research.

    If you don’t already have a focus group, have some kind of your audience, it’s time to get one.

    Something like a slack group or Discord server would be ideal, or a handful of people that you can just email, or text or whatever, within reason anytime and say, Hey, have you heard of this thing? Are you aware of it? Things like that.

    For an example, go over to Trust insights.ai slash analytics for marketers, you’ll see our analytics for marketers slack group, and I’ll ask people questions all the time.

    And they’re like, have you heard of this thing? What’s your take on it? So audience? Is your audience there? And you find that out by asking them? Second, does whatever the trend that we’re talking about fit your values, there will be some places where Yeah, your audience may be there.

    But it may not be appropriate for your brand.

    For example, there’s a relatively new couple years old, I think, app called parlor.

    That is has a very, very specific viewpoint and has a whole bunch of people that endorse that viewpoint, and it may not align with your brand.

    There is a new DSP that is has a huge, huge audience.

    By Pornhub, right? Again, you may have your audience may be there, but do you want your brand to be advertising there? That’s a question for your values and whether you feel it’s brand appropriate.

    The third thing is offers.

    And that is Do you have something to offer a value with this trend? Again, this is a very much in alignment thing.

    Going back to the Pornhub example.

    People go to that site for very specific reason.

    And to see your b2b SaaS firewall appliance ad there, the author is going to be misaligned with what the audience is seeking.

    Right? That’s a better thing to advertise, say on, you know, PC Magazine or network world, as opposed to Pornhub.

    And then the fourth thing is the creative.

    Do you have the capacity or capability to make the creative appropriate for that format? And this is a big one for apps like Tiktok.

    Can you publish creative that is in alignment with what that the format of the application is? For some brands and some marketing teams, that’s super easy to do.

    They have the right kind of culture, the right kind of people, the right equipment and capabilities to publish.

    Really good Tiktok videos.

    Same for Instagram reels, other brands, they don’t have not been able to crack the code on how do we publish content that meets the requirements of what the audience is looking for here? Again, and that company with that, you know, b2b firewall application, it’s going to be a hard, it’s not impossible, but certainly there are plenty of brands that have done interesting, creative, thematically appropriate creative, but it is hard to do that in an environment say like Tiktok than it is say on LinkedIn.

    Right? And again, a lot of that comes down to capacity to do you have someone on staff who is a good video editor.

    Do you have somebody on staff who’s good at audio? If you don’t, for example, making a good quality podcast is very difficult.

    Your audience may be listening to it.

    podcasts, podcasts may be a value and ethically neutral media meaning there’s no inherently challenging part of that you may have offers relevant to have on a podcast, but you don’t have the creators who can record audio cleanly edit it, process it and prepare it for distribution.

    And so anytime we’re evaluating any kind of marketing trend, we have to look at these four factors and how well our brand is aligned.

    Some of them are operational, some of them require a lot of research.

    And the more research you do on things like valid offers, the type of creative, creative, unique type of creative that performs well, who the audience is in as much detail as you can find, the better, you will know whether or marketing trend is right for your business or brand.

    How do you know when you should stay steer clear of something? Again, I would say, if you’re really really bad, at any one of these things, or there’s a real substantial deficit, any one of these things, you know, audience values offers creative.

    And it’s not something that you can patch up or build capacity capability for, then you steer clear of it, you know, for example, if your audience just isn’t there, wait, you know, if you’re, if the the place you’re looking at simply does not align with your values, it’s probably not going to change a whole lot.

    So you either wait or just pass it by, if you can’t find relevant offers relevant things that would be important to the audience there.

    You can experiment some for sure, but it’s still gonna be an uphill slog.

    And if you can’t build creative, you have to ask yourself are those capabilities things that we would need elsewhere in the organization, and if so, is that need enough to justify the expense sometimes it will be like, I firmly believe that pretty much every organization should have access to some video and audio capabilities, whether it’s through an agency, whether it is through into in house talent doesn’t matter.

    You can have something that allows you to create good quality audio and video.

    Other things like if you have someone who’s just got a very specific niche, and all they do is, you know, tick tock videos, that might not be as useful.

    But those would be the indicators to steer clear of really bad at any one thing, steer clear.

    But bad, two or more things, definitely steer clear because you’re just not gonna be able to make up that deficit.

    Unless you unless for some reason, you believe it’s a strategic imperative.

    And that would be governed by your audience and values.

    If your audience is there, and this and the trend is aligned with your values, and you just don’t have the offers and creative to do it, then yeah, if you are pretty sure you can make a go of it, then you would, then you would invest heavily.

    Understanding, you might have negative ROI for quite some time, until you can turn things around.

    But if say customer acquisition is imperative and not ROI, that might be an okay strategic decision to make.

    So that’s how to know whether a marketing trend is right for your business alignment to the four categories.

    And then no showstoppers and each of the four categories.

    It’s a good question as an important one to think about.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Advice for Brands in 2021?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Advice for Brands in 2021?

    Michelle asks, “What one piece of marketing advice would you offer to brands as we head into the new year?”

    Get your analytics infrastructure in order. So many companies are in terrible condition, analytics-wise, and if you’re a mess, then you can’t make data-driven decisions. You want to be data-driven. You want to make decisions rapidly under changing circumstances, which defined 2020 and will continue to define 2021.

    The toughest part of any disaster is surviving it long-term. When that initial wave comes through, be it hurricane or pandemic, a lot of damage is done, and that damage takes much longer to clean up. The effects of this pandemic will probably last at least half a decade, longer in some parts of the world. You’ve got to have a finger on the pulse of your business and your industry – and that requires good data.

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    In today’s episode, Michelle asks, what one piece of marketing advice would you offer to brands as we head into the new year? is a time of year again, isn’t it? Alright, so here’s the thing.

    The toughest part of any disaster, being a hurricane, tornado pandemic, whatever is the cleanup, right? surviving the initial wave, whatever it is, you know, storm comes ashore, disease runs rampant, is difficult.

    And we are still in the middle of a pandemic, despite what various folks would like to think we are still very much in the middle of the actual disaster itself.

    And so our first priority for the next year is surviving that.

    And then what happens after that is the hard part.

    And that is the cleanup.

    Look at any region after it’s had a hurricane, you know, the cleanup takes years, five years, 10 years, there are some places that simply don’t recover.

    And the effects of this pandemic are going to last a substantial amount of time, half a decade, a decade, for some, there’ll be some permanent damage.

    Look at the number of businesses that are simply closing that will never reopen the effects of that the effects of this, this disaster that we are in are still not written.

    We still don’t know the implications of all of this, there’s so much we don’t know, we don’t know how the wave of bankruptcies and business closures will affect our markets.

    We don’t know how the long term health impacts of the pandemic are gonna affect our customers, there are indications that there may be serious substantial long term effects for as many as one in five people.

    So in order to adapt to this environment, we have to become data driven.

    And we already have made substantial changes towards becoming more digital companies this year, right? We had to those companies that did not adapt in some way, didn’t make it.

    And there’s still a lot of trouble to go through.

    In order to be as adaptive as possible, as nimble, as agile as whatever you want to call it.

    Businesses have to be data driven.

    And that means they need good data.

    And they need good analytics infrastructure to process that data.

    And this is where businesses fall down.

    And this is where the marketing advice for brands is, you must get your analytics infrastructure in order.

    So many companies are in terrible condition from a marketing data marketing analytics perspective.

    If you’re a mess, if your data is not correct, if your your infrastructure is not set up, well, if you’re tracking the wrong things, if you don’t have any data driven goals, you can’t make agile decisions.

    Right? If you are relying on quarterly report on your market for your marketing team, you’re doomed.

    Right? So much happens in a week, in a week these days, that waiting for a quarterly report is madness.

    And so you need those systems that bring you closer to real time.

    That means good web analytics, good tag management, strong business intelligence, a data facility that your employees in multiple disciplines can access and analyze people who know what to look for in that data, and can understand it and say, Oh, this means this or this means that here’s the decision we should make from it.

    And a cultural change in your organization that says when the data tells us to change, we change regardless of our opinions on it, regardless of how we feel about it.

    When the data says this is the problem.

    within the boundaries of your ethics and your values and your laws, you make changes.

    Right? So if just a silly example, if your data is telling you, hey, you should be on Tiktok.

    It doesn’t matter whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter whether you think it’s a silly thing or not.

    If the data’s tell you, you have to go that way, then you have to go that way.

    You have to make that decision, and pivot your business to do that.

    If you don’t, again, you’re in trouble.

    of all these things.

    Fixing the infrastructure is probably the easiest, right? It is straightforward.

    Companies like mine do it all the time for other companies.

    But it is essential.

    The hardest part really is the cultural change of getting people to make a cultural shift within your organization to understand the value of data, understand the value of monitoring your data frequently, making the time in your work day to look at the data, even if it’s just as simple as walking by a screen, whether it’s you know, in your home office or in your actual office that has your KPIs, and you can look at and go Hmm, that’s down sharply, isn’t it? Oh, no, I, and having that set up for individual employees for each of their roles, so that they can see, you know, hey, this is the amount of time and the key indicator that I have to pay attention to.

    And that applies to every employee in the organization.

    Even even people not in marketing, right? You know, somebody who’s in in facilities in ordering, management should be keeping an eye on the prices of commodities that the organization uses.

    And you can say, Hey, that looks like there’s a big spike in the price of toilet paper, we should probably order some backup supplies, because this looks like it might be getting scarce.

    Right? A whole bunch of people found that out the hard way this are in 2020, didn’t they? So that’s the most important advice I can give you get your analytics infrastructure in order your marketing analytics infrastructure is essential to pivoting when situations and times change.

    And there will be big changes in the year ahead.

    There will absolutely be we will just in the context of this pandemic, we will have likely one or more vaccine candidates, we will have a gradual reopening of certain kinds of businesses.

    Ideally, ideally, we will even see, you know, some kinds of businesses like real world conferences come back by the end of 2021.

    Ideally, that is contingent upon everyone following public health measures.

    That is contingent on all of us actively rooting out disinformation and intentional manipulation.

    That is, all of us, essentially doing what we’re told, right? When it comes to making sure that we follow public health measures from qualified experts.

    And I’m not optimistic about that.

    I think there’s a big challenges ahead in the year.

    But assuming things go well, you need to be keeping an eye on your industry with real time or near real time analytics to say, hey, demand for our products and services is starting to shift dramatically.

    Something has happened some you know, maybe it’s our our customers have reopened and are able to move around freely, etc.

    Our geography is out of lockdown, whatever the case may be, you won’t know that unless you have your ear to the ground in the form of marketing analytics.

    So get your data in order.

    Get your infrastructure in order, get that working soon.

    And then start making that cultural shift towards data driven decisions by showing people here’s the value of the data, here’s the value of the decisions you can make from the data.

    Here’s how you’re going to get you know, your bonus or whatever.

    In order for people to go, okay.

    I’m going to put my emotional impulses my feelings about a decision secondary to the data, not to say that we’re gonna get rid of it.

    Just secondary, making that cultural shift debt to get people to go, Okay, I’m going to try making decisions with data would be my advice for 2021 Good luck to all of us in the year ahead.

    It’s going to be a tumultuous year.

    Let’s say that right now.

    It’s gonna be it’s not gonna be pretty, but we will eventually get to where it is that we want to go.

    Yeah, follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Consumer Data and Privacy?

    Nicole asks, “What should our strategy be with CPRA and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers?”

    It’s inevitable that consumer data will become more private. Intelligent Tracking Prevention for Safari and Firefox have blocked third party cookies. CPRA – just voted into law – will restrict sharing of data (not just selling). Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by 2022.

    What all this means is that we have to own our data and audiences – and as quickly as possible.

    How? By asking consumers for their data directly, rather than relying on third parties of any kind.

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    In today’s episode, Nicole asks, What should our strategy be with cpra and cookies inevitably being taken away from marketers cpra is California’s new legislation was just passed into law by a vote in the most recent 2020 election, it will supersede the existing ccpa law, which has been in effect will supersede it in 2023.

    It is inevitable that consumer data will become more private and less accessible to marketers.

    We’ve been on this march for four or five years now.

    And between changes in browser architectures to themselves legislation, and the absolute dominance of ad blocking technology, it’s no surprise that the data that marketers used to be able to get access to is diminishing.

    If we look at things like intelligent tracking, prevention and enhanced privacy protection in Safari and Firefox, respectively, they block third party cookies and cross site tracking out of the box.

    It’s not allowed.

    Now that takes out about 25 30% of your marketing data from third parties.

    Google Chrome will be implementing third party cookie blocking by default in 2022.

    So what all this means, in short, is, as marketers we cannot rely on third party services to provide us usable data.

    Right? There’s just no way to do that.

    What we need to do instead is we need to be focusing very, very heavily on first party data.

    And, quite frankly, we maybe need to focus on understanding the value of the data itself, not for us, but to the consumer.

    When we talk about first party data, we’re talking about information that consumers give to us directly, what is it that they are willing to volunteer? And what are we willing to trade to them in exchange? This is a big was a big open question for a lot of marketers, because the reality is most of the things that marketers have to trade are not particularly valuable, right? What do we have to trade to a consumer in exchange for their data, some white papers, free downloads, maybe some credits or something if you know, depending on the kind of business we have.

    And we need to be thinking much more from a marketing perspective about the value of data, getting a consumer to give us their data, is now going to be a sale in and of itself.

    And think about that, from that perspective getting a consumer to give us their data is a sale unto itself.

    So a sale means that there is a transaction, right? There’s an exchange of value, what do we have to give that is worth enough that a consumer would say yes, I will buy that I will buy whatever you’re offering a value.

    And the collateral I’m putting up is my data.

    most marketers don’t have anything to give, right? You read your average company newsletter that’s out there, what’s in there, it’s a lot of chest beating and puffery.

    That, frankly, is uninteresting even without, you know, any personalization data, you read a white paper, and it’s a more often than not a very self centered piece of content intended to persuade you to buy as opposed to being of legitimate value to you.

    You attend the conference session, and an unpleasant percentage of the time is a sales pitch.

    So we’re already not providing value to customers, to consumers, we’re already trying to sell them something without giving them something in the first place.

    And now, most marketers will be in a situation where they’re not going to earn the right to that consumer data, they’re not going to earn the sale.

    So what do we have to give? What do we have to offer, and this is going to be the foundation of your first party data strategy.

    Your first party data strategy looks like this.

    It looks like an email list that’s robust.

    It looks like private community of some kind that is not a major social network, like discord or slack.

    It looks like a list of mobile numbers that you can text.

    It’s basically a form of contact where you can reach out to the consumer directory directly you have earned the right to do so.

    And so we have to ask ourselves what value are we providing? What is? What are our options to increase the value of the data that we have? There are certainly techniques like progressive profiling, for example, where you can ask for a minimal amount of information at registration.

    And then over time, ask for, you know, one or two new pieces of information, with each new login each new launch each new download, so that you eventually build that profile.

    But that’s kind of like taking a large purchase and breaking it up over a bunch of payments, right? You still have to earn that every single time.

    When we look at the content we’re providing, can we create enough value that somebody wants it to begin with? And then can we upsell for additional data? A number of years ago, I used to do a thing called premium content in my newsletter in exchange for people’s information.

    Turns out, I stopped doing that because I wasn’t using the additional information, it wasn’t of any value.

    And so I stopped doing it, because they really was no reason to do that.

    But most marketing automation systems will support that it will support dynamic content where you can say, only display this block if you have these pieces of information in the database.

    So you can do a premium content model.

    Instead of asking for money, you’re asking for the data.

    But again, it’s got to be valuable.

    It’s got to be worth trading for.

    So the bigger question is, what could you be doing to offer value in the content you provide that is worth paying for? Right? That was Jay Bear’s thesis in his book utility A number of years ago? Is your content good enough that someone would pay you for it? Well, now, we are at that situation where consumers will pay with their data in exchange for valuable content.

    Again, looking around at what comes in inboxes, and in the mail and at trade shows, the answer is no, it’s not worth paying for it.

    So that’s the mission for marketers in the next two years, right? Because Chrome is still the largest browser, it’s 70% of the market, give or take.

    And when it implements its own third party cookie blocking, it will be a substantial disadvantage for many, many marketers who are relying on that data for things like cross channel attribution stuff, not from websites and website data but from ad networks.

    So what will you do over the next call the next year, what will you do over the next year to make your content so valuable, that someone would pay for it with their data? Right? That may mean original research on a regular and frequent basis.

    That may mean curated content that has a point of view that nobody else else can get from anywhere else.

    That may mean subject matter experts offering legitimate value without trying to sell you something that may mean unique stuff that isn’t available.

    If you’re For example, I have a mobile app to be discount codes.

    For in app purchases, or freebies or contests, giveaways.

    Whatever it is, you have to have something that’s worth paying for with somebody’s data.

    That’s the biggest takeaway, you have to treat consumer data as a sale, and be collecting it on a first party basis voluntarily from consumers.

    Because if consumer gives you the data, voluntarily having read all the disclosures, they then cannot take any legal action if you use that data, now, they can revoke consent at any time.

    And you have to make it easy for them to do so.

    But again, the idea is if continuing to provide value, they should continue to provide consent.

    That’s pretty straightforward.

    So good questions are going to be a question that you might hear a lot of in the next two years.

    So make sure that you’re staying on top of it and working on building your content value.

    Guy follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trends vs. Tactics and Strategies?

    You Ask, I Answer: Marketing Trends vs. Tactics and Strategies?

    Oleksandyr asks, “What defines a trend versus a tactic or a strategy?”

    Mathematically speaking, the definition of a trend is a sustained change in a metric over a period of time that can be proven with a statistical test.

    In the context of this question, I assume we’re talking about usage of particular channel, tactic, or strategy and whether or not to align them to marketing trends.

    The key to understanding trends is in the statistics. Once you have enough data to prove the trend is real, you act on it.

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    In today’s episode, Alexander asks what defines a trend versus a tactic or strategy? They’re, they’re totally different things.

    A strategy is why you do something, what’s the purpose of it? tactic is what you’re going to do, right execution is how you’re going to do the thing.

    Let’s do strategy, tactics and execution, that’s pretty straightforward stuff.

    A trend is something totally different.

    mathematically speaking, a trend is a sustained change in a metric over a period of time, that has been proven with some sort of statistical test.

    So again, a sustained change in a metric over a period of time, that can be proven, with a statistical test of some kind.

    That’s what a trend is, when you look at a chart of, you know, dots or lines or whatever, if you can use some sort of mathematical test, like, for example, linear regression, a logarithmic regression, polynomial regression, exponential regression is something that can fit a line to the data, and have that be reasonably statistically sound meaning there’s a correlation, there is something that you can mathematically show Yes, there’s an increase in this.

    There’s a cyclicality to this.

    That’s a trend, right? I’m guessing by the intent of this question, we’re talking about what is the usage of a particular channel or tactic or strategy? And whether you should be doing those things? Right? So is Tiktok.

    a trend? Or an anomaly? Well, depends on the period of time and the data you’re using to make that assessment.

    How many users are on it? How quickly is the rate of use changing? It would be things you could test out, you could also test out, for example, how often people search for it, how often people talk about it.

    And in that sense, you’re looking at a chosen metric of some kind, probably some measure of popularity, and whether there’s enough of it there to warrant you participating in it.

    There’s a new social network or social media app nearly every day, most of them don’t survive.

    But also, there are other trends, people try to take a look at what is the usage of Facebook, how many news media outlets are there? Pretty much any number that occurs over time, can be measured to see if there’s a trend.

    Here’s the challenge for a lot of marketers.

    most marketers do not have any kind of statistical background.

    Mathematics was, for some, the reason why they got into marketing, because they didn’t want to do math, and statistical assessment and analysis is definitely not something they signed up for.

    So in a lot of cases, marketers are making decisions on very qualitative data, like, hey, five of my friends just signed up for this new thing, it must be popular, as opposed to actually looking at the data and using some form of statistics to make that determination.

    So how do we understand this? Well, the key to understanding trends is in the statistical test, when you look at any time series data, any data that occurs over time, and you fit a line to it of change over time.

    Do you see in the given period of time that you’re trying to assess a meaningful, sustained change in that metric? If you were to take a chart, and it had the dots all over the place, and you know, for each individual day and drew a straight line through it, and it was just completely flat, there’s no change, right or going down would be would be bad.

    As opposed to going upwards, either as a straight line or maybe a curve.

    Those would be the tests you would run to determine is this thing, an actual trend.

    And there’s three different kinds of things you’re going to see right you’ll see anomalies, which are where, you know, you’ve got dots that are way above or below whatever line you’re drawing on the chart.

    Those be things that are odd, but definitely not indicative of a trend because remember, a trend is a sustained change.

    A breakout would be the beginning of a trend where the dots or the lines on the chart, slowly start to go up and then stay going in that direction.

    And then the trend is the sustained momentum.

    In that direction of that change, trends can go up and down, right.

    So you can have things that are D trending or becoming less and less popular.

    There are, you know, for example, bell bottoms were a trend, upwards in the 1970s have been on a trend downwards ever since you have not really seen them come back.

    So, you’ve got to be able to run the statistical tests.

    Now, the good news is many, many software packages can do basic trend analysis very well, Microsoft Excel does it very well.

    Tableau does it very well, IBM Watson Studio does it very well.

    You don’t need like heavy duty machine learning software to find, you know, the four basic trend types.

    But you do need to know how to, to run them.

    And you do need to know be how to interpret them.

    And that’s the challenge that again, a lot of folks will run into.

    But remember, the four basic trend types are linear trends, which is a straight line.

    logarithmic, no logistic, sorry, logistic trends, which is where let’s have an S shaped curve, exponential where it’s a straight up or straight down curve.

    And polynomial, which can fit a line to waves.

    most marketers are going to run into polynomial trend curves, with cyclical data, especially if you are a b2b company.

    You work with polynomial trends every single day, you just don’t know it.

    Because your traffic or your leads, or whatever goes up Monday through Friday and goes down pretty sharply, Saturday, Sunday.

    So your chart looks like this every week, right? So you have a polynomial curve.

    When you fit a trendline to that, you’re obviously looking for the inter day or inter week changes, but then you’re going to add an additional trendline on top of it to say, okay, in general, is my website traffic going up? Or is my website traffic going down to determine what the trend is? So when we’re talking about identifying a trend, in order to apply marketing strategies or tactics about it, we’re talking about doing the data assessment first, and then making a decision is something that we want to be part of.

    And you’ve got to do this frequently.

    It’s not something you can do just once and make a decision.

    For example, a year ago, well, more than a year ago, Tiktok was like, Yeah, okay.

    The trend data was starting to, you know, move upwards, but it wasn’t really as hot.

    Fast forward six months ago, it takes off, right.

    And so if you’re not measuring trends frequently, or looking for trends frequently, you may miss things.

    This is, again, why a lot of really good marketing analytics, departments or groups have automated software that pulls the data in and looks at it very frequently to say, yes, is there they’re there this week? You know, are you starting to see Oh, it’s merging upwards, you know, real ugly version of this.

    Look at the number of coronavirus cases, there are trends up and down and up and down.

    And you’ve got to be keeping a careful eye on it.

    Because it can change rapidly, it can change, you know, within days and see a change in that the velocity was called an inflection point.

    That’s something that gets out there’s a new trend to starting.

    So we’ve got to have the tools to to look for them frequently, and be able to react to them.

    The most important thing when it comes to trends is being able to make a decision from it.

    You look at a trend change and say yep, it’s now changed enough that we should do something about it.

    And again, you need to be monitoring constantly for that.

    So in this context, that’s what a trend is sustained change in a metric over a period of time that can be proven with a statistical test of some kind.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Understanding BERT’s Role in SEO?

    You Ask, I Answer: Understanding BERT's Role in SEO?

    Tara asks, “With the confirmation of BERT’s role in search ranking as Google DeepRank, could you explain more what this means?”

    BERT is a model, which is like saying it’s a blender or a frying pan. It’s how BERT is used that impacts our understanding of its SEO impact.

    BERT is great at:
    – classification of text
    – named entity recognition
    – question answering
    – concept and text extraction
    – understanding complete text context

    Based on those capabilities, how do these impact search, and how is it likely being fine-tuned? For that we turn to the Search Quality Rating Guidelines, aka at least part of the fine-tuning/training data set, along with user behaviors in production.

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    In today’s episode, Tara asks, with the confirmation of burts role in search ranking as Google deep rank? Could you explain more what this means for SEO? So it’s a good question.

    This is comes from a revelation on search engine roundtable that the BERT model is being used as part of what Google is called Deep rank.

    They’re part of their ranking algorithm.

    And to understand this, we have to understand what the BERT model does.

    And what it’s good at.

    BERT is a piece of software, right? It’s no different in some ways than say on Microsoft Word.

    And so it’s less about it, the technology being used, and more about how it’s being used.

    You could write a book with Microsoft Word, or you could write a shopping list, there’s so many different applications of it.

    The same is true for the AI model.

    So in order to understand this, from an SEO perspective, we need to understand a few things, what it’s good at what those capabilities have offered, you know, search and ranking, and then what we should be doing about it.

    So BERT is great at really about what, four or five big things one, classification of text, being able to say, you know, this text is good, this text is bad.

    It’s good at named entity recognition, being able to say like, Okay, this is a, you know, a person, this is a place this is a thing understand context, it is good at question answering, being able to give a reasonable answer based on data, it’s extracted from text.

    It’s good at extracting pieces of text out from a larger passage and understand the importance of any given sentence or paragraph.

    And all that comes from this is ability to look at a block of text as a whole, not just look at, say, the next word in the sentence.

    That’s what makes it such a different model from other older natural language processing models.

    So based on those capabilities, what’s the impact on search? Well, first, you know, classification of texts is good or bad is pretty straightforward.

    As Google gets more and more training data, from its search engine, Search Quality Rating guidelines, as Google gets more user data from people how people use Google, BERT gets better and better at classify text.

    This is a high ranking page.

    This is a medium ranking page.

    This is a low ranking page, and so on and so forth.

    When you think about concepts like expertise, authority, and trust, which is a core part of the Search Quality Rating guidelines, those are things that are not explicit in text, but you human users, rate pages, sample pages, and then deep learning model like Bert goes through and says, Okay, well, the hiring pages, what do they all have in common? How do they use prepositions? How they use named entities? Do named entities show up? And what’s their relationship to text and all this happens in the software that’s not influenced by humans that we know of? And I should caution This is speculation, because nobody that I know of has an inside line to Google to ask them exactly how they change their model.

    And if they did, they wouldn’t tell us.

    But this is based on the understanding of the model.

    So the Search Quality Rating guidelines, essentially, is providing a training data set for Google to say, Okay, what pages that are rated favorably have in common, what pages that don’t, and relying on things like those named entity recognition, capabilities, and snippets of text, to understand the context of a page.

    All of that is fed into work.

    And then live pages on the web are fed into it, and it classifies them.

    Right? It says, This is what it should be ranked us Now, again, BERT is a really big computationally intensive model.

    And we know it is not the core part of Google search algorithm.

    It is part of it.

    Just like core web, vitals are part of it, just like, you know, the the the knowledge graph is part of it.

    And we don’t know the percentages.

    That’s what we do know that it’s in there, at least somewhat.

    So with all this technical information, what are we supposed to do about it? Well, a few things.

    One, everyone should be reading the Search Quality Rating rating guidelines and understanding the training data set that’s being fed to BERT, because that’s critical for understanding how Google wants its engine to be trained.

    These human raters are going in and reading pages and saying go this is this looks good, this looks bad, you know, thumbs up thumbs down high, medium low in, in their rating guidelines.

    That gives us the information we need to know for understanding what the the model is likely to see on a page now, is it for sure.

    No.

    And part of deep learning is that deep learning can engineer features that are not there.

    are not explicitly declared.

    That’s one of the reasons why it’s so valuable.

    So we need to understand what the Quality Rating guidelines are and then use them as guidance to help improve our content.

    When we are using Google, we should be paying close attention to things like for example, when an outlines a snippet in their new passage results, why what made that snippet so important, that piece of text so important on that page? Can we get a sense of what makes that credible enough to display it as part of the search result? You’ve probably seen on Google too, when you click through on a result, at least in Chrome, it will highlight the the passage of text that is most relevant to your query.

    Again, this is something that based on Burt’s ability to extract text and understand, you know, individual passages and sentences within to be able to say, yes, this is important.

    So when we think about how we write our content, we have created our content, be thinking about, is there something that from a language perspective, they would say, this is like the most important point, how would you write your content to be determined? This is the important passage that belongs here that if Google highlighted it would answer the user’s question.

    And then, third, when it comes to interpreting how these models work, and how our content works, we need to be thinking about the features of the text and other things we publish, that things are named entity recognition, if you’re writing, for example, a post about I don’t know, coffee, right? What are the major expected entities that you would expect to see the named entities in a piece about coffee, right? If you’re writing about the history of coffee, you know, Lloyd’s of London should be in there, because it’s an integral part of the history of coffee.

    And so that demands domain expertise that demands subject matter expertise.

    And that, again, is is why the BERT algorithm is so powerful, because it can look at the stuff that would be considered credible, and see how many named entities are in there, how many certain types of texts, prepositions, and all these things are used.

    Our goal as marketers is to create content that looks and reads and sounds like the stuff that will be rated the highest quality in the Search Quality Rating guidelines.

    So original, in depth, well researched lots of citations, kind of like, you know, writing a really good paper writing a really good article.

    The good news is that if you actually are good at what you do as a as a brand, or as a company, and you have subject matter expertise, and you can put that subject matter expertise on display, the algorithm will naturally tend to favor you, as long as you check off a few of the tactical things, you know, like the the use of proper named entities and things behind because it’s going to be comparing your content versus what’s in the quality weighting guidelines, which is the training data set.

    So as long as you continue to pay attention to that, and keep your content up to date with its recommendations, and you write for the humans that will be reading your stuff, you will do well, you will do reasonably well with Google’s algorithm.

    On the other hand, if you create low quality stuff that’s thin, that doesn’t have any citation that doesn’t look like authoritative, credible content, you won’t do well, that’s just the nature of the way that the model is going to examine your text.

    And there’s other things that go into that, too.

    We can save that for another time about you know, some of the technical page layouts and things.

    But at the very least, you want high quality content, as governed by what’s in the training data set.

    So that models like BERT, when they look at your page, and they look at your content, we’ll be able to compare it side by side with the things that they know are valuable.

    And go Yep, this is valuable, too.

    Right.

    So it’s a lot of mimicry in some ways.

    It’s a good question.

    We could spend a long time on this, but that’s a good start.

    So if you got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?

    You Ask, I Answer: Email Marketing List Cleaning Frequency?

    Antonia asks, “How often should I be cleaning my email list?”

    Given the volatile nature of the economy and employment situation right now, I would suggest the following schedule for email marketing list cleaning:

    • Clean your email list on submission with good form validation
    • Clean your email list on batch upload
    • Clean your email list and investigate carefully bounces in your system after every send
    • Clean every address that hasn’t opened or clicked in 30 days

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    In today’s episode Antonia asks, How often should I be cleaning my email marketing lists? Good question.

    Given the volatile nature of the economy and the employment situation, regardless of where you are on the planet, cleaning your list is getting more and more and more important and cleaning it frequently.

    Because stuff’s going bad all the time.

    So why I mean, take a look at this chart.

    This is the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the United States of America, total unemployed, plus everybody who’s being underutilized, and at the peak of whatever we want to call this pandemic, as 120 2% of the workforce, right, we are still seeing large numbers of layoffs every week, no longer a million a week, but still very, very substantial.

    And what we’re seeing now as the pandemic drags on, is you’re starting to see this in b2b marketing as well, because obviously, if the b2c marketing supply chain is disrupted, that ripples upstream.

    So cleaning list is super important because stuffs going bad all the time, but much faster this year than in previous years.

    There’s four points really where email addresses degrade for one reason or another.

    The first point of cleaning should be on submission with the form.

    So the moment somebody fills out a form and submits it, that list should go through verification, that email should go through verification to check that it’s valid, right, somebody to just put like [email protected] in there.

    So that’s point number one.

    And there are plenty of services that will do that integrate with various providers and forms and can validate the email at the point of submission.

    So that’s, that’s number one.

    That’s important, if you don’t have any other validation mechanisms, because you don’t want junk going into your list if you can avoid it.

    The second point of cleaning is, depending on your marketing automation system, or email marketing software, is that point of upload.

    So if you have a system, I use, for example, Mautic.

    And that requires manual upload for some stuff.

    And at that point, that’s when you should be doing some cleaning.

    So I clean through million verifier on upload every week, when I move data from my website to my marketing automation system, could I automate that? Yes, but then I would have an issue where I’m not sure 100% of the addresses going in are clean.

    So I want to make sure that they are.

    The third point is, after every send, and need to be taking a very careful look at the bounces.

    A lot of email marketing systems software will try to manage bounces for you because it’s kind of a pain.

    You know, it is it is definitely not fun scraping through error logs and things.

    But what I find is that there are some systems which interpret the different error codes that you get from email marketing.

    And they don’t interpret them the same way I would I they classify a software as a hard bounce differently.

    Some are overzealous and unsubscribe people that, frankly, shouldn’t be unsubscribed.

    Like if you get a soft bounce message like you know user mailboxes folder over quota.

    That to me is not an unsubscribe, not immediately.

    So that’s the third point is going in and digging around in your email marketing system and your error logs and seeing exactly what has happened.

    You should be doing this anyway.

    If you depending on your email marketing software, and the service provider you’re using, you may get raw server logs, you may get notifications, I use Amazon SNS, and it gives me bounce reports for every single message I sent.

    I obviously don’t need to read the ones that succeeded.

    Those just go straight in the trash.

    And then the ones that did not succeed, what were they were they a complaint, meaning somebody hit the reporter spam button.

    Those go immediately into the unsubscribe bucket? Were they a hard bounce? What kind? What was the code? Was it a temporary failure or permanent failure for a hard bounce? Was it a soft bounce like mailbox full? And again, was it temporary or permanent? So that’s those are sort of the things I need to dig through it every time I send my newsletter so that I’m not sending to people who don’t want it.

    And be I’m not saying the addresses that are not working based on my understanding of the different error codes.

    And then finally, the fourth cleaning schedule should be cleaning and verifying every address in your database that has not been opened or clicked in 30 days, right if there’s no activity On an account for 30 days, run through a clear make sure that it’s it’s still valid.

    Because, again, we don’t know how quickly our databases are going bad.

    I do know that my own mailing list in 2020 has turned over about 40%.

    Right.

    So 40% of the addresses that were added there in January one are not there anymore, the list is larger now.

    So I managed to, thankfully with folks like you be able to keep my, my overall list size good.

    But there has been a tremendous amount of training.

    And one of the things I see people do really wrong in email marketing, particularly b2b is they say, you must use your work address, right, you must use cspn.

    At TrustInsights.ai.

    You can’t use your Gmail address, well, surprise.

    This year, with as much turnovers we’re having in companies that gmail address or hotmail address, or whatever, maybe the only way you have to stay in touch with that person.

    So if you are overly strict on that policy, I would counsel being a little more flexible, right right now, because if that person is valuable as a human being, give them any way they want to subscribe, let them stay subscribed, right? Because you don’t know that that, you know, manager from a big corporation, that you’re trying to woo, maybe unemployed for a little while, and then may become Director of Marketing at a mid sized business.

    And instead of being somebody who’s, you know, low down on the totem pole, they may have suddenly have Signing Authority, but if you disqualified them from subscribing to your stuff, because they didn’t put in there because they put in the Gmail address, you’ve lost that opportunity.

    There is no harm in keep letting people communicate with you in the way that they want.

    So keep that in mind.

    So those are the four phases of claiming on some form submission, on upload to the system, on every send, and then anything that is older than 30 days with no activity.

    Doing your cleaning frequently will keep your list in good shape it will reduce complaints or reduce invalid sends it will set off fewer spam traps.

    Really, really important to keep your lists as clean as you possibly can.

    In terms of services, there’s so many to choose from.

    I use one called million verifier I think it’s coming It’s great.

    The pricing is good.

    There are others zero bounce never bounce.

    Melissa Data is taken take a look around do comparisons on pricing and accuracy.

    And let’s see, if you want to test a vendor give them a list of addresses and pollute it with 30% bad addresses stuff that you know is bad but doesn’t look obviously bad.

    and see which vendor comes back with the best results right? Here’s your hundred email sample and see what percentage comes back if they flag all the bad ones and they and they identify most of the good ones great.

    You can measure their accuracy and see how they do if you got follow up questions on this topic, which is a super fun topic.

    I love email marketing.

    I did it for years.

    professionally.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics and Data Privacy?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics and Data Privacy?

    Jim asks, “We’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using GA because of data privacy. Ever come across this?”

    Plenty of times. There are situations in which Google Analytics would not meet regulatory requirements. Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant; the only industry certification for security it possesses is ISO 27001. And while no PII/SPI/PHI is ever supposed to be in GA, we know it happens. So best practice, if you are working in an environment that mandates a certification GA doesn’t have (like TS/SCI), you have to use something else.

    Watch the video for a discussion of options.

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    In today’s episode, Jim asks, we’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using Google Analytics because of data privacy.

    Have you ever come across this? Yes.

    plenty of times there are situations where Google Analytics does not meet regulatory requirements for data privacy, data security, things like that.

    For the average business, as long as you’ve implemented correctly, it’s fine.

    For businesses that require an ISO certification, like ISO to 7001, which is a cybersecurity standard, Google Analytics is fine.

    for situations where you have sensitive personal information or protected health information, for example, Google Analytics is not fine.

    And the reason for this is that there’s no way that you can prove the compliance to some of those standards, with Google as the data processor and the data living on remote servers that you don’t have control over.

    And that is, and remains one of the biggest challenges for organizations that want to be able to use web analytics in a highly sensitive environment.

    Generally speaking, a big part of compliance issues with Google Analytics, in general, is implementation.

    If you are inadvertently passing protected information of any kind, even if it’s just personally identifiable information, you are creating a data security problem.

    And you are also technically violating the terms of service for Google Analytics itself.

    One of the prohibitions for using the software is that you do not attempt to store any personally identifiable information within Google Analytics.

    So no email addresses, no names, no social security numbers, nothing that would create essentially a legal hazard for Google, as well as your organization, those things cannot be stored in there.

    So a big part for all organizations is making sure that you have implemented and audited it on a regular and frequent basis to make sure you’re not pushing data in there that contains that information.

    The biggest culprit are forms that do not use the HTTP POST protocol, there’s two protocols with forms GET and POST, get puts the data from the form into the URL of a form.

    And then that gets processed on your website somewhere, post puts it in a different mechanism, that is not the URL.

    And when you put personally identifiable information in the URL of the site, by default, you are putting it into Google Analytics.

    And that’s where a lot of the trouble happens when you’re talking about getting data in there.

    Now, there are other ways to put data into Google Analytics, the measurement API, the measurement protocol, custom dimensions, custom metrics, things like that.

    But those typically require conscious intent, you have to want to do that to build it into your API calls, or to build it into a custom dimension or metric that you set up as a trigger in Google Tag Manager.

    And so most companies, following basic compliance, wouldn’t do that.

    It’s just not something they would do.

    Whereas most companies don’t necessarily audit their forms to see what mechanism they’re sending.

    And so you can be accidentally sending that data in.

    So one of the critical things to do if you are using Google Analytics, regardless of your data privacy policies, is to audit your forms, audit your website, and make sure you’re not putting any obvious data into Google Analytics by accident.

    Now, Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant.

    Google says so in the documentation on its website, it does not meet the standard for HIPAA, the health information Portability and Accountability Act.

    As I said, the only certification has is ISO to 7001, the information security certification.

    And so if you have higher restrictions, like FERPA, for example, HIPAA, top secret, special compartmented information, you absolutely should not be using Google Analytics, for pages that are involved in in those environments.

    Now.

    If you’re in, for example, a healthcare environment, you can have your public website running Google Analytics, right.

    And then like a patient portal where people log in hmm that’s that’s a place where you don’t want to have it running.

    You want to have a different solution in those cases.

    Same for you know, finance or education.

    If you’ve got you know, regulations like FERPA, for example, that governs education.

    Your colleges website can absolutely run Google analyze Right, because you should not be collecting personally identifiable information on your public college website, on your student portal, on your academic portal on your faculty portals should not be running unless you have audited them, and made sure they are not passing sensitive information into Google Analytics.

    Now, if you want to have web analytics in those situations, you need to have something that runs locally on servers that you own an audit and can pass it an auditor’s test.

    And then you would run an open source web analytics package that runs on those servers that, obviously because you own them, and you own where the data is stored, you are then, in compliance with many of those things, the package that I recommend, is an open source package called matomo.

    matomo runs, like I said, locally on a server that you set up, designate and run.

    And it can be tuned to be, however strict or lenient, you want it to be with the collection of data.

    But in those environments where you have, you know, user data, PII SPI, Ph I, that’s the kind of software you want to run, you want to make sure that they are kept separate, that you don’t use the same Tag Manager containers.

    In fact, for servers that run sensitive information, I would not use Tag Manager at all I would use matomo has a version of its own Tag Manager that again, runs on a server that you control.

    And keep those things separate, you’ll have to build separate reporting, you’ll have to go through the hoops of keeping those systems totally separated.

    But in doing so you’re meeting the compliance requirements, as long as the server you’re running it on, of course, meets those compliance requirements as well.

    So matomo, on a locally run server will get you web analytics without running into the data privacy issues.

    Now, for organizations that don’t meet those regulatory requirement, but don’t have those regulatory requirements, they are not HIPAA organizations are not healthcare or education or finance.

    And you’re just getting pushback internally.

    A big part of that, again, goes to configuration and setup and doing audits.

    And if you can demonstrate to your stakeholders, yeah, we’ve done an audit, we’ve validated that we’re not sending any data to Google that we shouldn’t be, then I think you can make a pretty strong case, that’s fine to use in those situations where you’re not going to be collecting sensitive data.

    But it’s really important to do that audit.

    There are any number of very straightforward techniques to do do that kind of auditing.

    A lot of it involves you if you’ve got Google Analytics already running, just looking through the data you’re collecting, as well as being on the website itself and measuring to make sure that forms behave properly, that you can’t see something obvious in the URL like Oh, look, there’s my name, just submit the form.

    That’s a pretty clear indicator that you’re not doing something correctly.

    But it’s a good question.

    It’s an important discussion, because not enough organizations think about privacy.

    Not enough organizations think about data privacy, and where the data lives, and what data we’re sending and to whom.

    So some good questions.

    What I would do is contact your legal counsel and get a list of what you are required to comply with, and then use that to decide Can I make Google Analytics do this? Or is this something that Google Analytics simply cannot do? And if the latter is the case, and you have to use a different solution? Got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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