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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Does ChatGPT Learn?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Does ChatGPT Learn?

    I explain the concept of reinforcement learning and how it is used to optimize Chat GPT for dialogue. OpenAI, the company behind Chat GPT, logs all interactions with the model and uses them to improve the system. Discover the research value that our interactions with Chat GPT provide and how they help improve the model in this informative video.

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    In today’s episode, Carol asks, Does chat GPT learn from my prompts and the text I feed it? And does it feed that knowledge to others? What research value do they get from our interactions? So with any AI service, it’s always a good idea.

    Always a good idea to read the Terms of Service to read the frequently asked questions and any technical documentation is provided.

    OpenAI, which is the company that produces chat GPT-3 has a good amount of actual documentation and disclosures on its website about what the model is and how it works.

    So from bullet point two in their frequently asked questions, chat GPT is fine tuned from GPT-3 point five, a language model trained to produce text chat GPT was optimized for dialogue by using reinforcement learning with human feedback, a method that uses human demonstrations to guide the model towards the desired behavior.

    So what this means when you’re talking about reinforcement learning, Reinforcement learning is when you train a machine learning model to perform a task of some kind, Shad, score things, guests things, categorize things.

    And then you essentially take the uses of that model.

    And you know, thumbs up, thumbs down, whether it did his job, and you feed that back to the original dataset.

    And then you retrain the model, you basically haven’t rebuild itself.

    And you keep doing this over and over and over again.

    So that over time, as long as the responses are intelligible, and well curated, the model gets smarter, the model gets better at doing what it’s supposed to do.

    Now, chat GPT does absolutely log everything you type into it.

    In fact, when when you read Terms of Service term number six, will use my conversations for training.

    Yes, your conversations may be reviewed by our AI trainers to improve our systems.

    So everything you type into this system is being logged.

    In fact, there is a specific note in here in the terms of service like hey, don’t put confidential information in here because this is not this is not the place where that it is being logged.

    So is it learning from your prompts and the text feed it? Yes, it is the most overt way you can give feedback to OpenAI is that thumbs up thumbs down when you are using the service, you’ll see a little thumbs up thumbs down icons right next to its responses and you’re reading each response.

    Yes, is a good response notice was not a good response helps the model learn how to provide that at training feedback for them to retrain their software.

    That said, you can tell a lot about some of the responses by how much refinement there is, right.

    So even if you don’t use the thumbs up, thumbs down, if you say, write me a poem in the style of Edgar Allan Poe, but about the 2020 presidential election.

    And it does its thing, and then you keep asking for refinement after refinement after refinement.

    That’s a pretty good indicator that the model is not doing what you intended to do, because he didn’t nail it on the first shot or the second shot or the third shot and so forth.

    So even in cases where you’re not using that built in ratings feature, there are plenty of behavioral signals that would indicate Yeah, this this thing is not going right.

    I don’t know.

    So this is purely speculation on my part, but it would completely not surprise me if the, the outputs and then our inputs were basically being added to the training data set.

    Add in hold, right.

    So when you write a prompt and submit that, that goes into training data, right for the next iteration of the model.

    So I would absolutely assume that that knowledge, any knowledge that we’re creating with the software is being incorporated into that reinforcement learning system, the human feedback of some folks in the AI community, we’ll call it active learning where it’s it’s retraining itself on a regular and frequent basis.

    OpenAI seems to release a new version about every month or so.

    So my guess is they they collect data for a certain period of time, they then retrain the model, and they roll out the newly retrained model.

    And obviously, if it goes sideways, for some reason, they can just roll back to the previous fall.

    But that’s, that’s what I’m pretty sure is going on underneath the hood.

    So what research value are they getting from our interactions? They’re rebuilding the model, right? They’re improving the model.

    OpenAI makes these really large language models, the GPT-2 series of models, a generative, pre trained transformers, so they had GPT-2, then three now 3.5, later this year, they’re going to be releasing four, which will, despite all the hype line is just going to be more of the same right? It’ll be better what it does, because it’ll have more data.

    And critically it this is the part that I don’t think people understand about these, these models, critically.

    Our interactions with it To provide richer training data that they can get just by scraping the internet itself, because if you scrape like a Reddit forum thread, yeah, you have some context.

    But you don’t have that, that thumbs up thumbs down that behavioral data, as if, as opposed to when we work with a model directly and say, write me a poem about slicing cheese, but in the style of, I don’t know, somehow what I can tell by betraying my lack of studies in English class.

    In the bath, these are very clear payers of information, a prompt response prompt response.

    And that’s better quality training data for someone who’s building a large language model.

    So that’s what’s happening with the data we’re feeding into this.

    It is, we know for sure from what’s disclosed, it is being used to retrain the model, it would not be surprised, because it would not surprise me in the slightest if it was being used to train the next iteration of the big model GPT for right with all the conversations because this thing has taken off like like wildfire online.

    And so 1000s If not millions of people are freely giving it a lot of information.

    And that you as a researcher, as someone trying to build software, as someone tried to acquire high quality data, you couldn’t ask for a better, better way to do that, than to have a bunch of people eagerly running in to provide you with more training data.

    So that’s what’s happening, but expect no privacy.

    It’s in the terms of service, expect no privacy.

    If you’re putting in like, you know, you have this rare medical condition.

    I don’t know that I would put that into a system like this that is going to be reviewed in some part by the AI team that builds this.

    So good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: ChatGPT Feedback?

    You Ask, I Answer: ChatGPT Feedback?

    Unlock the potential of ChatGPT with this informative video on the key feedback mechanisms for improving its responses. Understand the difference between in-session feedback and the built-in rating system, and learn how to effectively use them to enhance your experience. Enhance your knowledge and improve your results with ChatGPT. Subscribe now to stay updated.

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    Christopher Penn 0:00
    In this episode Carol asks, regarding chat GPT if I provide positive feedback after an answer, will the influence chat GPT-2 Next replies? Yes, but it depends on the kind of positive feedback we’re talking about.

    There’s two essential feedback mechanisms to chat GPT.

    One is you’ll notice next to each prompt, there’s a thumbs up thumbs down.

    That is the training data that we are asked to provide as users of the system as beta users to say this response was good or this response was not good.

    Doing that provides training data to OpenAI to essentially take those prompt response pairs, the ones that got thumbs up, when it basically was back into the training model and says, do more of this stuff.

    And it wasn’t got thumbs down, it goes into the back of the training while saying do less of this stuff.

    And so that feedback, it’s called reinforcement learning, helps AIS get smarter, essentially, get get more clever at what they do, by avoiding things that are that are not appropriate.

    That’s one of the reasons why fine tuning, which is a process where you retrain the AI a little bit or give some things additional weights is so important.

    That’s one aspect.

    The second aspect is if you’re talking about sort of just text interaction, that doesn’t amend the training dataset, not overtly, but what it does do is that it provides guidance for the model within that session to do less or more of something.

    And that data may may be used for reinforcement learning as well, if it’s clear enough that the feedback is about that prompt.

    But the the mechanism that for sure, we know impacts the reinforcement learning is the thumbs up thumbs down thing.

    When you’re working within a session within OpenAI within a specific conversation, providing positive feedback or corrective feedback will help more than anything, refine the results that you get, right.

    If you say to him, hey, good answer.

    It may say thank you and may do all these things and then say, Do you want to continue to want to do something more that that’s going to be sort of in session textual feedback, but it doesn’t change the model as much as the thumbs up thumbs down ratings.

    So if you want to influence chat GPT to overall provide a better experience use that the built in rating system if you want to see how it interacts with you within that session and the feedback that it gives you and the way the prompts and the outputs change.

    You can use in conversation feedback as well, but there’s been no indication that OpenAI overtly uses that training data as part of its reinforcement learning mechanisms.

    They may they may, we just don’t know that’s not disclosed in the documentation.

    Good question.

    Thanks for asking.

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    What’s On My Mind: AI Creation Vs. Refinement

    Let’s take a minute to talk about originality, AI, and content marketing. A lot of folks, myself included, have had a lot to say about generative AI, about how AI is ushering in a new age of generated content. Machines that write almost as well as we do on average, machines that can crank out incredible artwork.

    Yet, that’s not what these machines excel at.

    When it comes to the use of artificial intelligence, in particular, large language models like GPT-3 and the ChatGPT interface, what these models are good at is transforming inputs. Large language models, in general, are nothing more than massive statistical probability matrices. There was a great quote from the “This Week in Machine Learning and AI” podcast that goes something like “a word is told by the company it keeps.”

    This means that these tools and models understand language only to the extent of the statistical distributions of the words, phrases, sentences, and paragraphs that they appear in. That’s why they can replicate grammar very well because grammar is nothing more than statistical distributions of words. They’re autocomplete on steroids.

    For example, what’s the next word in these sentences?

    “For all you do, this Bud’s for _____”

    “That’s not a knife, this is a _____”

    “God save the _____”

    We know what these various sentences are because in their respective cultures, they’re so frequently used that we are accustomed to the word distributions, though the last one is now changing once again because the people it’s about have changed.

    What this means is that from a generation capacity, these tools can generate text very capably, but that generation is going to be mathematically an average of the text that most commonly surrounds those keywords. That’s why your prompts to generate new stuff have to be so incredibly detailed, so that the tools can understand the increased sense of probabilities for the words you’re asking them to generate.

    Telling a large language model to write a blog post about social media marketing is going to generate extremely bland, average content. Telling it to generate social media content about the engagement rates on TikTok with regard to time of day and gender is going to give you more specific content because the large language model itself can understand based on the additional words you’ve provided, more of the context. It is drawing from additional statistical probabilities from those words – a word is known by the company it keeps.

    However, what these tools produce is still a statistical average of what they’ve been trained on. They’re not going to produce anything original because they can’t by definition. Certainly, they’ll produce original orderings of words to some degree, but they can’t produce new concepts that aren’t in the original model. That’s why it’s such a big deal when new versions of models – bigger models especially – get released, because the models have more original ideas in them to work with.

    So some marketers are going to create an avalanche of average, a swamp of sameness as they dramatically accelerate the quantity of their content production but not the quality. Their use of AI will be to scale quantity in the hopes that wins them the game, or at the very least frees up their time to do other things. And for some companies, that will be a win, and that’s okay. If your company blog is atrocious now, a completely machine-generated blog of mediocrity will be a GIANT upgrade for your company.

    But what if you don’t want average? What if you aspire to more than mediocrity? What role do these tools play? Here’s the part everyone is overlooking: these tools are better at refining than creating, and that’s the secret we need to understand to unlock their power.

    Because these models – their technical name really is transformers – are adept taking in inputs and transforming them into outputs, they are actually BETTER at refining text than they are creating it. About a third of this article, the first third, was written with the help of ChatGPT. But it’s not what you think – it took my words and just cleaned them up. Here’s how – I did a voice recording while I was waiting to pick my kid up from art class, and fed it to Otter:

    Otter transcript

    then took that transcript and fed it to ChatGPT:

    ChatGPT input

    Is what you’re reading my words? Yes. It’s my words, but changed from one medium to another and cleaned up. My words were transformed by the GPT model – which stands for generative pretrained transformer – into text that’s almost exactly what I said, minus some things that weren’t helpful.

    This is what these tools excel at – taking data and transforming it, rearranging it, making it more useful. This preserves our originality, our ideas, our language, while improving the quality – and that’s what they’re best at. Because they’re not relying on a gigantic average of all the content they’ve ingested, because they’re using our own words and just cleaning up or rephrasing, they perform great AND keep the spirit of what we’re trying to say. There was a great story on Buzzfeed about an AI app made for a contractor who is dyslexic, helping refine the inputs into better quality outputs.

    We can even use multiple, different voices to create something useful from original inputs. My martial arts teacher, Mark Davis, has said it’s challenging sometimes to create social media copy that resonates with audiences. What better way to create ads than to use the voice of the customer itself? I wrote this prompt for GPT-3, using real customer reviews from the school’s Google Business profile:

    Martial arts school GPT-3 prompt

    What will happen? The large language model will digest not just my directions, but also the language of what customers had to say in their reviews of the school, then generate social media copy based on that. It’ll preserve the main ideas, the original ideas it was provided rather than resort to dipping into the pool of average commentary about martial arts schools.

    And what was the outcome?

    GPT synthesized reviews

    Those are some good suggestions to get started with social media content. They’re clear, they’re specific, and they’re appealing.

    This is the power of transformer-based large language models. You can have them create something average from scratch, or provide them with the raw materials and they’ll create refined products – but keep your originality and spark in the final product.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: ChatGPT Predictions?

    You Ask, I Answer: ChatGPT Predictions?

    In today’s episode, Cathy asks, “What predictions do you have for the future of ChatGPT for the rest of this year?” I share about large language models in general, some useful applications, Microsoft’s interest, and more.

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    trying something different today using Adobe podcast with along with the wireless lavalier.

    Mic, and the phone.

    So let’s see how this turns out.

    Because if this works really well, then it means that for folks who are content creators, you can do more than one thing at a time as long as you’re safe and aware of your surroundings.

    So in today’s episode, Kathy asks, what do we think the implications of chat GPT are upon the rest of the year? That’s an impossible question to answer.

    Here’s the thing.

    I would like for us to stop referring to that specific product, when we’re talking about the applications of large language models, right.

    GPT is a great tool, right? It’s built on the GPT-3 model, which is by OpenAI, that is not the only large language model out there.

    In fact, there are many, many large language models, each town has their own applications, their own parameters, the Eleuther.ai, AI made a whole bunch on their desk at the pile.

    So large language models, we talk about something like chat GPT-2 is like talking about Microsoft Word like what are the implications of Microsoft Word, as opposed to what’s the implication of word processing? And how, how is word processing going to change content creation? It sounds different, right? It sounds a little more broad.

    We saw on the news, this past week that Microsoft is looking at integrating the GPT-3 model, the large language model into its search engine, and especially into some of its products like Word, PowerPoint, and Excel, ooh, this is a really good idea.

    This is a really good idea.

    Because when you’re being creative, even nominally creative inside the office and stuff, you’re I mean, we’ve all had that experience, when you’re sitting down to write something and you’re like, I don’t know what to write, I don’t know what to put on this slide, and so on, and so forth.

    And that’s where a large language model is a really good idea to have available to say, ah, gosh, what should I name this presentation? Well, hey, let’s take a look at all the notes and distill down some, some title suggestions, right? To name this presentation? Or I’ve written this chapter of this book in my word processor, and like, what should what should the chapter summary be right? For those people who write cereal, pieces of fiction, choosing your your summary, choosing your, your sort of snippet for promotion really difficult.

    If you’re creating content, and you want promotional material from it, this is something that we’re seeing a lot of tools starting to explore, where you give it your content, and you say, Make me some social posts, right, make me something that I can use to put on Instagram, or Facebook or, or LinkedIn or whatever, and it will generate those things.

    And those are really good applications of large language models, as adjuncts to the creative process.

    And I think that’s an important part.

    It’s an adjunct to the creative process.

    That means it’s not doing the work for you to follow.

    And it kind of is, it’s not building the main corpus of the work.

    It’s building all the promotional stuff around it.

    And let’s face it, a lot of people who are really good creators, right? Authors, filmmakers, musicians.

    Many of them don’t like making promotional material, right? Many of them don’t like pimping their stuff.

    They feel awkward about, well, what does the machine just does it for you? Right? So you’re, instead of trying to struggle to make some promotional content, the machine doesn’t worry, hey, here’s the tweets you need to promote this thing.

    That’s a great use of this technology.

    That’s a great use of large language models.

    So that’s what I foresee as being the the useful use cases.

    There’s a lot of novelty uses for these large language models.

    One of my personal favorites is meeting notes, summarization, I will feed a long transcript of 2025 minute call and say, give me meeting notes and action items out of this.

    Now I have a whole prompt written down to make sure it behaves the way I want it to behave.

    But in doing so, it dramatically shortens the amount of time I need to get action items out of a call, particularly It was a long Cornett remember everything? It’s a great way to summarize.

    So are there gonna be other applications? Of course, we see all sorts of things like actual conversations.

    I saw a piece of news this morning on how someone was using it to more than say that was using it to test for mental health stuff.

    Experiments in the controlled laboratory setting by qualified professionals to see if these bots could act as therapy adjuncts right now up, not replacing therapists because the liability on that alone would be impossible, but as a supplement to regular therapy, so that’s where I think we’re going with these things.

    I it’s going to be interesting to see how it turns out.

    What are the big questions right now that was announced in the OpenAI discord was hey, we’re thinking about commercializing this, what should the pricing be? What should the model be? And a lot of people pitch their their ideas and but the era of this stuff being free, is coming to a close very fast.

    So if there’s a lot of things you want to get done with it now.

    Get it in, if you don’t have the budget, it’s probably not going to expense for it.

    OpenAI is regular pricing is surprisingly affordable.

    It’s like two cents, I think, per 1000 tokens.

    So if you put in 1000 word essay, you know, cost you two pennies to process that thing to generate that much token data.

    And we see with chat GPT in particular, that it doesn’t seem to take into account the input length nearly as much as the regular GPT-3 model does.

    So you can put in really long crops man should to get results out of the system.

    So how that changes once they start charging for it? We don’t know.

    But it will be will not be free forever.

    It will not be freezing for a while.

    It’s that that research favor that I believe is coming to a close.

    I don’t think OpenAI expected it to be the huge hit that it was.

    But now this BERT folks, they’ve got a bunch of doctorate degrees and things.

    They know that they’ve got to hit on their hands and they need to capitalize on it sooner rather than later.

    Anyway, thanks for the question.

    Talk to you soon.

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  • Mind Readings: Adobe Podcast Review

    Mind Readings: Adobe Podcast Review

    Join Christopher Penn as he reviews Adobe’s Project Shasta, a new AI-powered tool for cleaning up audio. In this episode, Christopher puts the software to the test by recording in various challenging environments, including a moving car with high road noise and in a parked car while wearing a p100 mask. Tune in to see how well Project Shasta performs and how it uses artificial intelligence to improve audio quality.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, we’re going to do a bit of a bake off and review of Adobe Podcast.

    If you’re not familiar, Adobe rolled out this product, which has been in beta for a while.

    It’s called Project Shasta, and now it’s in production and people can try it out.

    I imagine eventually it will find its way into Adobe Audition or something similar.

    In a nutshell, it’s a pretty cool product.

    It uses artificial intelligence to clean up sound, and we’ll talk about the type of AI it uses, because it’s not what most people think.

    But first, let’s talk about the audio clips we’ll be listening to.

    The audio clips in this episode are going to be audio only, because a number of them were recorded in a moving vehicle.

    For safety reasons, there’s no video because I was operating the vehicle.

    The four samples we’ll be looking at were recorded in a parked car, just on a phone; in a moving vehicle with the ventilation system on high; in a moving vehicle with high road noise; and in a parked car while wearing a P100 mask.

    This last scenario is not ideal for having conversations, as the mask is great for stopping bad things in the air from getting in your lungs, but not for having clear conversations.
    Let’s listen to each of the samples and then discuss what the software does.
    [Audio samples played]
    Okay, it’s pretty clear that Adobe Podcast does an incredible job with some really terrible audio.

    All four samples were very short because they were difficult to listen to.

    We did hear some distortion, of course, because the recording scenarios were poor.

    But the really interesting thing is that last sample with the P100 mask.

    It did a very credible job of trying to reconstruct my voice.

    That’s an important part of the product – it’s not just doing the usual leveling tools you find in audio software, it’s actually reconstructing the voice.

    It has a trained library of known voices, so it can compare the distorted audio to the known voices in its library and try to reconstruct the original audio as closely as possible.
    Overall, I’m really impressed with Adobe Podcast.

    It’s not perfect, but it does a fantastic job given the terrible audio it’s working with.

    If you’re interested in checking it out, you can try it out now that it’s in production.


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  • Mind Readings: How Do We Know Content Is Made By A Human?

    Mind Readings: How Do We Know Content Is Made By A Human?

    It is difficult to tell if a piece of content is generated by a human or a machine. To know if a piece of content is generated by a human, look for markers within the text itself, like typos, and grammatical oddities. Machines generate text that is usually mechanically perfect and lacks the imperfections of human-generated text. You can also look at the format of the content to determine if a human was involved, as humans are necessary for multimedia formats. If you want to communicate that a piece of content is human-generated, have a human involved in the delivery of the content.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about how do we know if a piece of content is generated by a human. It’s really difficult with large language models like the GPT-3, which is the underlying model that powers things like chat GPT, and so many other similar models that are being used in all sorts of content-based AI tools. One of the questions that you legitimately want an answer to sometimes is did a person actually make this? Or is this machine generated? Now for very low stakes stuff? You know, maybe it doesn’t matter. But certainly, if you’re a marketer, maybe you’re paying a writer to write blog content for you, you might want to know, am I paying for a human to write this or am I paying for a machine to write this? And there’s no good way right now to just look at a piece of text and go, “Okay, that came from a human or that came from a machine just on the text alone.” But what you should be looking for are little markers within the text itself, that can give you a hint as to its provenance. Machine-generated text, generally speaking, obeys the general rules of grammar and spelling pretty well actually. And in that respect, content is a lot like diamonds. When you have synthetic diamonds, the way that you determine that a diamond is synthetic is by looking at it through a variety of instruments and looking at the crystal and structure. What you will notice about a synthetic diamond that is different than a natural diamond is that synthetic diamonds are perfect. When you look at them, they are perfect; their crystal and structure is perfect. It’s flawless. When you look at real diamonds, there are flaws. Sometimes the flaws are big, like the diamond is the wrong color. Sometimes the flaws are small, like certain molecules in certain carbon molecules and atoms didn’t line up just right. And so there’s tiny little imperfections throughout it. But it tells you, “Yeah, this was naturally grown. This is not laboratory grown, not assembled quickly.” Content is the same way. When you look at the output of a lot of these large language models, they’re creating mechanically perfect content, good grammar, good spelling, no strange misuses, no weird turns of phrase. And so you can tell in text, “Yeah, this was probably generated by a human” when you spot those unusual constructs; for example, spelling errors, typos. Generally speaking, machines don’t produce typos in generated text, grammatical oddities. For example, you might say, “I got that,” right? Somebody asked, “Hey, what about the set headphones?” I got that. Grammatically, it’d be more correct to say, “I have that. I have that model. I got that model. I have that model” is the grammatically correct way to do it. And so those little quirks of grammar that are unique to you differentiate your text from machine-generated text.

    I’ve been doing a whole bunch of writing for my book, Beyond the Velvet Rope, and I what I’ve been doing is I’ve been doing a lot of voice recording and then taking the ugly transcripts and washing them through one of the API’s to clean up the language. And what it spits out is mechanically correct, kind of bland text; it loses a little bit of flavor. And so when I take those summaries, I then blow them back out and and retype an awful lot of them and reintroduce the unique quirks, the imperfections that are my personal voice, the way I speak, the way I write, the way that I use language is unique to me. And unless you are someone who can personally train and fine tune AI models, chances are you’re probably not going to be doing that with one of these large language models to make it sound exactly like you said, you’ll just kind of use the mechanically generated texts. That’s how you know a piece of text is human.

    The other thing that you could look for is format, right? Multimedia formats. This piece right here that we’re talking about: is this machine generated? Well, no, clearly not. I’m sitting here talking to you. Right. Do you hear the sound of my voice? You can see me on the screen. Even if I read it off of a script, but I’m not. There’s still a human involved, right? You can still tell, like, this is me. This is I. Am not yet computer generated, maybe someday. But for right now, that’s not the case. That’s the easiest and most prominent indicator that you know a piece of text is human is there’s a human involved right here: I am.

    If your customers, if your employees, whoever, if people want that authenticity, they want that certified organic, human generated content, the easiest way to prove it to people is have a human in the mix, right? Have a human delivering the content, even if a machine wrote it. So that okay, well, yeah, there’s, there’s a real person there. Because in a lot of ways, the concern that people are expressing is just a fear, in some ways, that we have been replaced. So if you can show yourself or someone who works at your company, you show a real person behind that. It communicates consciously and unconsciously to somebody else, “Oh, yeah, there’s a person in there. There’s still people behind the wheel somehow within the content that you’re delivering.”

    So as you start evolving your content offerings to use artificial intelligence to use generative AI, you may want to deliver that in as human a way as possible. And that means turning on the camera, turning on the microphone, and having a human being be part of the delivery.

    Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you soon. If you liked this video, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.


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  • You Ask, I Answer: Why is ChatGPT All The Rage?

    You Ask, I Answer: Why is ChatGPT All The Rage?

    Donna asks, “So why is ChatGPT all the rage now?”

    Chat GPT is popular because it is an easy-to-use interface for the GPT-3 language model. It allows people to easily interact with the model, ask it questions, and give it tasks. It has opened people’s eyes to the capabilities of large language models, as it can generate coherent, high-quality text. People are using it for a variety of tasks such as writing term papers and assignments, generating blog content, and more.

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    In today’s episode, Donna asks, “Why is Chat GPT all the rage now?” If you’re unfamiliar, OpenAI Corporation released a new interface to its GPT-3 model. GPT stands for “General Pre-Trained Transformer”, and it’s a large language model that has been accessible to people for small fees for a few years. Last year, they released a chat interface to it, so that people who had no technical skills whatsoever could chat with it and discover what the GPT-3 family of models was capable of.

    So why is it all the rage now? It’s because it’s easy. The previous version, “Playground”, is very easy to use, and provides a writing space as well as controls to tune the performance of the model a little bit. But for a lot of people, that blank box, along with the buttons and knobs that have words that they don’t necessarily understand in the context of a generative AI, is still intimidating. A chat interface, something that looks like a chatbot or a text message, is something that people understand and can use right away. People started to talk to this thing, asking it questions, giving it different tasks, and as expected, because it was the same model underneath, it did a great job. People were able to have it generate tweets, rewrite lyrics as parodies, write horoscopes, and more.

    It really opened people’s eyes to the capabilities of what large language models can do today. In the last four years, they have evolved very quickly and can now produce coherent, high-quality text. People started using it for every possible use case, like writing term papers and assignments, generating blog content, and more. And because it’s a less intimidating interface, it has taken off in a way that the previous version didn’t.

    So that’s why Chat GPT is all the rage now. It’s easy to use, and it removes a lot of obstacles for people. It’s interesting to watch the reaction to Chat GPT, as you’re now seeing a lot of other vendors building chat interfaces into their AI products. It’s a no-brainer when you see how people respond to it.

    The next step for a lot of folks should be to use it with bigger or complicated prompts, or more detailed prompts that take advantage of what the model is really good at. For example, you can feed it a transcript of a meeting, and it can generate meeting notes and action items. This is a huge time saver, and it’s a great way to extract value from recorded calls and to miss fewer details.

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  • 2022 Rewind: Making Sense of Seasonality and Predictive Analytics

    2022 Rewind: Making Sense of Seasonality and Predictive Analytics

    This year, I had the chance to sit down with Dave Armlin of Chaos Search. Here’s what we chatted about:

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    Data At Scale: Unlocking The Power Of Big Data With TrustInsights.Ai
    – I’m here with Christopher Penn, the co founder and chief data scientist at TrustInsights.ai
    – This program is about data at scale, looking at how to handle large sets of data efficiently
    – Christopher shared that TrustInsights helps marketers make their data work better for them
    – They focus on the 6 C’s of Data: cleanliness, completeness, correctness, comprehensiveness, chosen well, calculable/usable by both machines & humans
    – They use various tools and technology to blend heterogeneous data sources into a normalized format so it can be used for reporting or machine learning tasks
    – To provide an example Christopher noted that they have looked at digging deeper on popularity metrics such as TikTok videos

    From TikTok To AI: Harnessing The Power Of Data With The Right Tools
    – Stakeholders often ask what the impact of a TikTok video is on sales, and there are tools such as Segment I/O or Google Data Flow that allow us to bring data sources together.
    – We use open source technology to build our product, including BigQuery and the AMP stack. The language we typically use is R but more kids these days prefer Python.
    – Chaos Search uses cloud object storage models like GCS (Google Cloud Storage) and S3 (Amazon Simple Storage Service). They also offer an ElasticSearch API for querying events and logs, with JDBC connections soon to come too.
    – For AI integration, they follow a consumer experience model you push a button in an analytics tool and expect an answer right away. However, at times machine learning requires compute time before providing a response; this can take anywhere from minutes up to hours depending on the data set size.

    Unlock The Potential Of Data With Google Data Studio
    – The way data is presented to customers varies based on their expertise with the software they are using.
    – Google Data Studio Software encourages less manual labor and fewer human errors in data entry.
    – Visuals can communicate thousands of words quickly and easily, so utilizing free tools like Google’s free Data Studio Software is encouraged.
    Marketing data comes from unifying conceptual ideas rather than just unified data; descriptive analytics tends to be the focus of most software available today, making it difficult to do diagnostic analytics with it.

    Data Privacy: Keeping Real Data Safe With Synthetic Solutions
    – I recently learned about California’s new data privacy act that takes effect on January 1st, 2021 and the implications it has for companies used to sharing customer data.
    – Customers must consent to having their data sold under this legislation or else companies are unable to share it.
    – To comply with this law without violating user privacy, many businesses have begun creating synthetic marketing data by building models of their original datasets which then fill in dummy information instead of using personal information.
    – This requires more sophisticated skills than what is typically found in marketing professions today and vendors may need to provide assistance with processing such complex algorithms and transformations.

    Quilting Together Compliance: Understanding Privacy Laws For Your Business
    – There is a patchwork quilt of privacy laws that marketers need to understand and abide by in order to keep their business compliant.
    – One example is the Chinese Intellectual Property Protection Law which has similarities to GDPR but with much stricter penalties, including imprisonment if found violating it while in China.
    – It is important for businesses to not only know what data they have on hand, but also how they are using it.
    – Tools like Chaos Search can help businesses classify and analyze data within their organization in order maintain compliance with applicable regulations.
    – Additionally, companies should be mindful of preventing misuse of their platform as individuals may use protected classes without consent or authorization.

    Data Governance: Stopping Inferred Class And Synthetic Variable Misuse
    – I’m learning about inferred class issues and synthetic variables, which have the potential to be used in ways that are disallowed or unethical.
    – SAS vendors need to come up with tooling to help prevent these types of issues from being an issue.
    – IBM is leading the forefront on this issue, creating solutions that provide good governance over data and privacy concerns.
    – Chaos Search strives to be a good citizen when it comes to using data ethically, staying in compliance with laws regarding data privacy and providing plumbing for customers where needed.
    – Dual use technologies related to AI and data itself can lead toward misuse if not monitored properly.


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  • 2022 Rewind: Choosing the Right KPIs for Your Business with Appfire

    2022 Rewind: Choosing the Right KPIs for Your Business with Appfire

    This year, I had the chance to sit down with Kerry Gorgone of Appfire. Here’s what we chatted about:

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    The Needle Point: Using KPIs To Guide Your Business Success

    • I recently had the chance to talk with Christopher Penn, a Chief Data Scientist and authority on analytics digital marketing, marketing technology and AI.
    • We discussed key performance indicators (KPIs) in relation to business teams and how to choose the right ones for success.
    • The KPIs should usually be related to what your boss gets their bonus from or what you get your bonus from if you don’t know then it may be time for an update!
    • To find out which metrics will work best, use regression analysis or decision trees combined with data surrounding key outcomes such as revenue or employee retention rate in order to figure out which are the most statistically relevant numbers correlated with that outcome that we care about.
    • KPIs must also have some form of control over them in order for us to manipulate progress positively choosing those without manipulation capabilities is not recommended!
    • Finally, when it comes down do it, choose KPIs that can effectively move the needle one way: up!

    Data Analysis: Thinking Beyond The Numbers

    • To draw meaningful conclusions from data, it’s not enough to just look at the numbers you have to think critically and test your hypothesis.
    • Correlation is not necessarily causation: two numbers may seem related but in reality be unrelated.
    • When testing a hypothesis, consider the KPI or outcome that you want to measure, then adjust your inputs and observe how this shifts the KPI.
    • For certain KPIs such as employee retention where direct testing might not be possible, retroactive A/B testing can help infer whether changes had an impact.
    • If teams don’t have the skills or resources available in house for statistical analysis, it can help to bring different departments together with a collaboration mindset even with something like beer!

    Data Math: Powering Up Your Business

    • Before getting into any data math, it’s important to consider the purpose of what is being done and how it might benefit the organization.
    • When considering people involved, think about their skillsets and if they need support from additional agencies or partners.
    • Also take a look at processes currently in place for gathering and analyzing data to determine which can be reused versus what needs improvement.
    • Finally, you’ll implemented planned changes based on the purpose, people involved and processes in order to build an internal model that adds value to your company.

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  • 2022 Rewind: Why You Need Data In Your PR Strategy

    2022 Rewind: Why You Need Data In Your PR Strategy

    This year, I had the chance to sit down with Amy Rosenberg of Veracity PR. Here’s what we chatted about:

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    Using Tarot Reading To Analyze Data: Unlocking Insights From The Unknown.

    • I recently had the pleasure of engaging in a conversation with Christopher Penn, co founder and Chief Data Scientist at Trust Insights and keynote speaker at numerous events.
    • We discussed the correlations between tarot card reading and data analytics he was previously a tarot card reader during his graduate school days.
    • In tarot reading, there is a discipline called “cold reading” where one can use verbal cues and inference to guess what’s on people’s minds based on collected data.
    • Utilizing this approach may also be beneficial in marketing as well using firmographic & technographic data to make inferences about a company.

    Data Driven Decisions: How Data Guides Your Path To Success

    • I recently discovered data driven PR, which uses data to make decisions.
    • Data is the primary factor used in making decisions, overruling any hippo or Highest Paid Person’s Opinion.
    • Finding the right data depends on the situation and outcome you’re trying to achieve.
    • Companies need to invest in better measurement tools for public relations professionals so they can make informed decisions using data.
    • Using Google Maps as an example, I have come to understand that this type of technology guides your decision making based on analytics and other forms of data that helps track route performance.
    • As a PR professional it’s important not only having access to good data but also understanding how best use it when looking into different paths of action towards optimal outcomes.

    Transforming PR Through Measurement And Data

    • Investing in measurement of brand strength is essential for understanding public relations outcomes.
    • Surveys, market research and data collection services are all ways to measure pr success.
    • Starting a campaign with data and measurement can give insight into successful strategies before launching any PR campaigns.
    • Branded organic search can be used to extract intent from consumers about a particular product or service.
    • Running premarket surveys based on search data gives an idea of what topics are important to the consumer base.
    • Cross matching social data with demographics allows us to target specific groups in our marketing efforts.

    Unlock The Financial Impact Of PR With Google Analytics And Search Console

    • I used Google Analytics and Google Search Console to measure PR effectiveness.
    • Google Analytics 4 is best for measuring activity on digital properties like a website or app.
    • Whereas, Google Search Console provides insight into how people are interacting with the search engine related to that property.
    • Through this tool, you can measure branded organic search and identify any uplift from a PR campaign versus days when it wasn’t running.
    • This can be especially helpful for B2B businesses since organic search is often a key driver of success for their digital space.
    • Using goals within these tools allows us to estimate the financial impact of a PR campaign from the increased searches it generates.

    Unlock The Power Of SEO To Measure The Success Of Your PR Campaign

    • Launching a successful PR campaign requires a look into google analytics and SEO tools to measure success.
    • Using SEO tools can help you compare your potential client’s performance compared to its competitors.
    • Inbound links are a proxy for interest, so if no one is linking to the website, there won’t be any interest.
    • Content creation should also be monitored when analyzing these SEO tools.
    • A data science workshop exists for marketers who want to learn more about setting up proper measurement of PR campaigns.

    Data Science & PR: Tackling The Old Boys Network

    • I recently learned about how artificial intelligence is an umbrella term that means teaching machines to replicate tasks typically needing human intelligence.
    • With PR specifically, we need to understand people’s search intents when they look up certain brands which can tell us a lot without dealing with salespeople breathing down our necks.
    • As PR practitioners and professionals, it’s important for us to have the right skillsets in order to tackle different situations and work efficiently with clients.
    • One of the primary reasons my partner and I stopped working in PR was because we wanted to focus on data science instead this enabled us to look at critical metrics like how many people are searching for a given brand or topic.
    • We also need flexibility when it comes to certain industries such as defense which remains largely an old boys network where gaining entry requires attending events such as steak dinners or golfing trips.

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