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  • Almost Timely News: 🗞️ AI Use Cases for Ideal Customer Profiles (2024-10-06)

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    What’s On My Mind: AI Use Cases for Ideal Customer Profiles

    Katie asked me this week to cover synthetic ideal customer profiles intended for use with AI. Now, we’ve talked at length about these, which you can see here, here, and here, and of course my company offers the creation of these as a service, which you can find here.

    So since we’ve got all that covered, let’s talk about what you DO with an ideal customer profile. All too often, people take a document like an ICP and… shelve it. It becomes attractive binder-ware, sitting next to your SWOT analysis and that expensive product-market fit analysis you hired that very expensive consulting firm to do.

    This is a terrible fate for any useful document, but none moreso than an ideal customer profile. Let’s dig into some examples of what you can DO with these things.

    I strongly recommend you watch the video edition of this week’s newsletter because I walk through many of these examples onscreen.

    Part 1: What’s Inside?

    A good ideal customer profile is going to have these basics, which will vary based on your business to some degree but are pretty standard:

    • Demographics: classic 1990s IRC A/S/L (iykyk)
    • Psychographics: stuff like values, opinions, attitudes, activities
    • Firmographics: mainly for B2B, the corporate equivalent of demographics
    • Goals and motivations: what does the customer want to do?
    • Needs and pain points: what stands in the way of the customer’s goals?
    • Buying behaviors: details about how the customer makes decisions

    The difference between a buyer persona and an ICP is that ICPs are generally synthesized from actual data. When Katie builds them for clients, she gathers up a half dozen different data sources and uses generative AI to blend them together.

    Here’s the key to a good ICP. In general, for making use of an ICP with AI, it should contain as much relevant, specific information as possible. More is better as long as it’s relevant and specific, because we’ll be using them with generative AI. You don’t have to worry about overwhelming a stakeholder’s mere human brain with lots of details when you’re using ICPs with AI – a key difference between the ICPs you’re probably used to and a synthetic ICP intended for use with AI.

    Part 2: Obvious Use Cases

    Once you’ve got a solid ICP that’s ready for generative AI, there’s a universe of things you can do with them. Load into a generative AI system of choice and have it:

    • Validate your marketing copy
    • Brainstorm ideas for content by talking with your ICP
    • Test things like email subject lines, ad copy, etc.

    How you do this is more important than the tasks themselves. A lot of people approach these tasks very naively as opposed to rigorously. What do I mean?

    Naive use of an ICP is giving it to generative AI and then just asking it basic questions like “Hey, what do you think of this idea?”. With a detailed ICP, that will still generate good results, but they’re not going to be optimal results.

    What should you do? There’s a defined process I use with things like ICPs when it comes to evaluation:

    • Prime the model with background information, including the ICP
    • Summarize the information into best practices to reinforce its importance within the conversation (changing the in-conversation weights)
    • Build a scoring rubric for the evaluation process
    • Evaluate using the rubric and the best practices
    • Encapsulate the rubric and best practices into an app

    Here’s a simple example. Suppose I want to evaluate whether a blog post meets the needs of our ICP. I’d do the following:

    • Ask the model what good quality blog content is using the Trust Insights PARE framework
    • Load the ICP
    • Summarize high quality content
    • Build a scoring rubric for quality content that aligns with the ICP
    • Evaluate a piece of content to ensure the system works as intended
    • Put the rubric and quality outline into a Gem/GPT/artifact

    For simple evaluation tasks, building apps like Gems, GPTs, and Artifacts is the easiest way to effectively scale the use of AI with an ICP at your company. Once you go through this process for a specific task, you can hand over the finished app to others and then they can benefit from your expert development.

    Part 3: Less Obvious Use Cases

    Asking an AI model to evaluate something like content against an ICP is a great, simple, easy use case. A less obvious but similar use case is turning your ICP into buyer personas and having those buyer personas have a conversation with you for things like product market fit.

    Here’s an example. Katie and the Trust Insights team built an ICP for me as a keynote speaker, to help better guide my marketing efforts at being hired as a keynote speaker by events and conferences. That’s a solid, straightforward use case. We have no shortage of data about who event planners are or the things that are important to them.

    I could just hand a talk or talk summary to that ICP and ask it to evaluate and score how well the talk would meet their needs as an event planner. That’s useful. But what if I took a step back and had several different event planners at a table, and had a conversation with them about an upcoming talk?

    Using the ICP, I’ll direct my AI tool to split it into three synthetic customers – an event planner for a major marketing conference, an event planner for an industry conference in a vertical like healthcare, and an event planner for an individual corporation.

    Why do this? Because an ICP is so rich and robust with real data, assembled from real data, generative AI tools can infer a great deal from that data, extrapolating it into personas that have differing goals and motivations. The needs of a corporate event planner needing a speaker for a sales kickoff are somewhat aligned but somewhat different from a speaking planner for a major marketing conference.

    Unlike talking to a monolithic profile, using the ICP as the basis for personas also allows you to create adversarial variants, personas that might not be as receptive to your sales and marketing. This is a great way to see how different segments of the market might react; telling the model to generate a skeptic or an outright critic of your company can give you a much wider perspective of how the market might see you.

    Part 4: Challenging Use Cases

    Now, let’s kick things up a notch, as the cooking show aphorism goes. What are some more technically challenging use cases for ICPs?

    Well, for one thing you can talk to them directly, as though they were real people. I have an example using OpenAI’s ChatGPT Advanced Voice Mode in the video edition. This week, OpenAI announced we can use those same voices via their API, so you can build entire apps around them.

    I did an example this week using Google’s synthetic voices for a live, phone call-style focus group in which I talk to two variants of our Ideal Customer Profile. You’ll see a snippet of that in the video edition as well.

    Beyond this, you can build an entire synthetic advisory service. For example, you could take one of your personas, a pile of marketing news for the week, and have your ICP-based persona email you asking questions about what the news means for their business. Or, since everyone’s in love with podcasts made by AI, have one or two of your personas discussing marketing news of the week and then interviewing you as the expert on the topic.

    Want to kick it up even more? Take the ideal customer profile and use it with a CRM agent as an advanced form of lead scoring. Every lead that comes in, a generative AI model can use the ICP to score how similar the new lead is to the ICP. Think of it instead of product market fit as lead fit, and use it as an additional scoring mechanism to prioritize and sort your prospects and leads in your marketing. (more on building AI agents here)

    Part 5: Wrapping Up

    As with so many other things, people have a tendency to treat ideal customer profiles as just another document on the pile, when in reality they’re the basis for some of the most powerful generative AI work you can accomplish. You know who your customer is, or who you want your customer to be. Now bind that knowledge to as many aspects of your operations as possible, and you’ll turn shelfware into real revenue.

    Blatant pitch: if you’d like one of our AI-powered synthetic ICPs, just visit here and book some time with Katie to get one.

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  • Almost Timely News: 🗞️ Small Language Models and Generative AI (2024-09-29)

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    What’s On My Mind: Small Language Models and Generative AI

    Small is the new large.

    Okay, maybe that’s a bit of a stretch, but there’s a logic to that statement. Large language models, like the ones that power tools such as ChatGPT, have historically been gigantic pieces of software that require entire data centers and even nuclear reactors to power. They consume crazy amounts of electricity and fresh water to keep massive clusters of computers operating.

    Since the beginning of the generative AI era, there has been parallel development of open models (sometimes called local AI, private AI, open weights models… clearly marketing has not been involved in this naming scheme) that are smaller but still capable of doing many generative AI tasks.

    This past week, we saw another entrant in the small models field, Meta’s Llama 3.2 1B and 3B, joining a family of models like Gemma 2 (Google), Phi 3.5 (Microsoft), Qwen 2.5 (Alibaba), and others. These models, all under 5 billion parameters, are small, lightweight, fast, and consume far fewer resources than their massive siblings like GPT-4o, o1, etc.

    So let’s break down what this all means, why you might care and want to implement it, and how to decide what to use small language models for.

    This week’s newsletter is very technical, so here’s the TLDR.

    TLDR:

    Smaller AI models are emerging as a more efficient and accessible alternative to the giant, power-hungry ones.

    Think of AI models like libraries: bigger models have more books (knowledge), but are also slower and use more resources. Smaller models have less knowledge, but are faster, more private, and can run on your phone or laptop.

    Smaller models are good for summarizing text, extracting information, and rewriting content. They are less good at complex tasks or generating creative content without a lot of guidance.

    Choosing the right size AI depends on the task: you don’t always need a huge model for simple jobs. Smaller models can be a great option for everyday use, especially if you value privacy and want to save energy.

    Part 1: Model Sizes

    To get a sense of how to think about language models and their sizes, we should talk about how they’re made. All language models (and their multimodal cousins) are built using massive amounts of data, typically scraped from the Internet and other public and private data sources. Model capabilities are measured in the number of word pieces (tokens) that are used to build them; more is better, but increases the cost of building them. That’s why you see the usual list of suspects like Google, Microsoft, and Meta as the originators of many models – they have the budget, compute capacity, and facilities to build these things.

    Meta’s Llama 3 models are trained on 15 trillion tokens; to give you a sense of how much text that is, that’s about 12 trillion words. That’s a bookshelf of text-only books which stretches around the equator twice. It’s a huge amount of text.

    Once a big tech company makes a model, they then make various size versions, labeled by the number of parameters. Parameters are the statistical relationships between tokens. There’s a clear statistical relationship between word pieces, observed when the models are made. For example, can you predict the next word in these text sequences?

    • I pledge allegiance to the ____
    • God save the _____

    There’s a good chance you can predict these if you’re American or British, or familiar with American and British cultures. The probability is nearly 100% in the first sequence of the next word being “flag”, and a mix of probabilities in the second sequence being “Queen” or “King” depending on the dataset.

    The relationship between each of those words is a parameter. When we say a model has 1 billion parameters or 3 billion parameters, we’re talking about the number of statistical associations it knows about.

    Here’s a concrete example using hair color. A small model, if you gave it the word blonde, might come up with a few associations:

    Small shelf of hair color

    A big model, if you gave it the word blonde, might come up with far more associations:

    Large shelf of hair color

    The bigger the model, the more associations it has for every word you ask it. If these models were libraries, a small model might be a little community library or a tiny library. A big model might be a library like the Boston Public Library or the British Library in London. They have more knowledge to draw on because they have greater numbers of statistical associations.

    So don’t we want the biggest number of parameters all the time? No – more parameters means the model has more associations – but is bigger, consumes more resources, and is slower. More memory, more processing power, more electricity, etc. The bigger a model is, the more resources it consumes and the slower it works.

    Models under 5 billion parameters can run on modern high-end smartphones. Models under 2 billion parameters can run on most smartphones (albeit not quickly for low-end smartphones) – but a phone consumes far less power than a data center.

    Here’s how these two metrics – training data tokens and parameters – interact. The more training tokens that went in, the more robust the model is compared to a similar size model with less training data. That’s why a model like Meta’s Llama is so incredibly smart for its size. Even though it has a small number of parameters, it had a huge training data set, and thus its performance is better.

    Going back to our hair color example, if your training data set was a small shelf of products, then your knowledge would be limited to what you saw, and you wouldn’t have the vocabulary to describe exotic hair colors. If your training data set was a manufacturing facility for hair coloring, then you’ve seen every possible combination of hair color, and even if your vocabulary is relatively small, it still has more range of knowledge about hair colors.

    Part 2: What Small Models Are and Are Not Good At

    Let’s extend our analogy of the model size as a conceptual library. A small model has a small number of books. A large model has a large number of books. Because the small model has less knowledge, it’s less fluent, especially when it comes to generation.

    As an aside, the irony is that despite us calling it “generative AI”, generation is what most language and image models are least good at.

    There are 6 major use case categories of generative AI – generation, extraction, summarization, rewriting, classification, and question answering.

    Here are my three rules for working with models of any size:

    1. The smaller the model, the more likely it is to make things up, all other things being equal.
    2. The smaller the model, the more data you need to bring into the conversation.
    3. The smaller the model, the more granular you need to make the task. Reasoning declines with size.

    If you follow these 3 rules, small models can be just as capable as large ones for a wide variety of tasks. Which tasks depends on how much data you’re bringing.

    In order, these are the tasks that small language models excel at, from best to worst:

    1. Extraction: it’s super easy for a language model to return an identified portion of data.
    2. Summarization: pretty easy for a language model to boil down existing text.
    3. Rewriting: pretty easy for a language model to rewrite things like writing style and tone as long as you provide solid examples and strong prompts. Small models do suffer issues with things like translation.
    4. Classification: depending on the complexity of the classification, small models may not be able to think things through for complex classification.
    5. Question answering: depending on the complexity of the question, small models may not be able to stitch together complex knowledge.
    6. Generation: absent you providing data, small models will happily hallucinate all kinds of things.

    By keeping these guidelines and rules in mind, you’ll be able to decide what tasks you do and don’t want to hand off to small models.

    Part 3: Choosing a Model

    We’re going to have some more thorough documentation up on the Trust Insights website about this soon, but for now, here’s a good rule of thumb. Every computer has three main resources: CPU power, regular memory (RAM), and video memory (VRAM). For maximum generative AI performance, you need as much VRAM as possible.

    For people with M-series Macs, whatever your Mac’s total memory is, divide it by half and that’s how much VRAM you effectively have, give or take.

    For people with Windows computers, your computer should be able to tell you how much VRAM you have. If you can play Call of Duty at full resolution with no issues, you probably have a lot.

    The rule of thumb is this: whatever your VRAM is, you can run a model that’s 1.5 times that size in billions of parameters.

    For example:

    • If you have 4 GB of VRAM, you can run a model up to 6 billion parameters with a good size conversational memory.
    • If you have 16 GB of VRAM, you can run a model up to 24 billion parameters with a good size conversational memory.
    • If you have 64 GB of VRAM, I envy you. You can run a model up to 96 billion parameters with a good size conversational memory.
    • If you have 512 GB of VRAM, you have a server cluster in your house and you probably have an electric bill with many digits before the decimal. But you can run pretty much whatever you want.

    There are more complex and arcane rules for selecting a model (things like quantization level, model format, etc.) but those are for another time. The above rule of thumb is generally a safe one.

    Now, what kind of small language model might you want? Here’s where it gets tricky: as of yesterday, there are over a million to choose from on Hugging Face, the world’s largest repository of open models.

    A million.

    Why? Because with open models, people can download a foundational model like Llama 3.2 and customize it to their needs. Some people might customize it to be super good at programming but bad at writing. Other people might make a version that’s great at writing fiction but terrible at writing non-fiction.

    Generally speaking, you want to use foundational models to start, models from companies like Meta, Mistral, IBM, Google, etc. Because those models will be as versatile as they can be in a small package.

    Part 4: Prompting Small Models

    We’re all used to writing great, highly detailed prompts for big models like Google Gemini and GPT-4o, and those complex, multi-step prompts do well in big models. It’s what we teach in our Generative AI for Marketers course and our lectures, workshops, and keynotes.

    Those big prompts don’t work nearly as well in small models because they simply do not have the reasoning capabilities of larger models. To accomplish similar tasks, we need to break up our big models prompts into the individual steps they’re composed of, and either manually or programmatically (using code) feed them to our small language models.

    For example, suppose you have a multi-page prompt for generating a blog post in your writing style that contains examples, instructions, and a scoring mechanism. A big models like Gemini 1.5 Pro will run that as is. A small models like Gemma 2 will need you to break it into individual pieces – first telling it what the writing style is, then what is a good example and a bad example, then the instructions, then the scoring mechanism. Each piece has to be executed separately and during development should absolutely be inspected by a human to make sure the model is doing what it’s supposed to be doing.

    Small models tend to have smaller conversational memories – that is, they can remember fewer things during a conversation session. Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro, for example, as a giant models can remember a conversation that’s 1.5 million words long – effectively 2 copies of Shakespeare’s complete works. Meta’s Llama 3.2 can only hold about 80,000 words – the length of a business book – and will run very slowly at that size.

    By breaking down prompts into tiny pieces and feeding each piece into the model, we’ll take advantage of what small models are capable up without overwhelming them or confusing them.

    Additionally, small models will have less of a vocabulary than larger models, so one of the first tasks you’ll need to do is ask the model to take your existing prompts and rewrite them to work best with it. For those folks who are highly technical, a framework like DSpy can help you automate that (though it’s vast overkill for most tasks).

    One way around the shorter conversational memory of small models is to provide them with extra data in a custom database. This is a technique known as retrieval augmented generation (RAG) – where you take your data, encoding it in a format that models can read, and then make that database available to the model. If we think of a model like a library, retrieval augmented generation is like building a new wing on the library. The librarian still has the same general tasks, but now has more resources to help answer questions.

    Part 5: Okay, But Why Small Models?

    With all these tradeoffs, why would we use small models? My MAICON 2024 talk explored all this in detail, but the short version is that small models you run on your hardware are private (no data goes anywhere off your device), low power (good for sustainability), and always available. I’ve used models on my laptop during flights without WiFi and had the power of generative AI ready to help me whenever I need it, especially with a robust setup.

    This opens up tremendous doors of access. A person might want access to basic generative AI for summarization, but not using third party services. Maybe you’ve got a doctor’s note you need to have explained, or a document you want summarized that’s confidential. Local AI, open model AI, allows you to do this on your own hardware with no Internet access at all.

    For places with fewer resources like developing regions, this makes generative AI available at no cost besides powering your phone. It levels the playing field even more, especially for people who maybe can’t afford the 20-30/month for paid online services, but still would like to enjoy data privacy.

    The reality is that for many AI tasks – like “write this email in a way that won’t get me fired” – we don’t need big foundational models that chew up huge amounts of natural resources and energy. It’s like taking a Harrier to the grocery store when a bicycle will do perfectly fine.

    If we want generative AI to not only live up to the hype, but not cause more harm than good, we need to begin looking at how to choose the right size AI for the task at hand. We’ll save a lot of energy that way, enhance privacy, and still get the jobs done we want AI to do.

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    This week, let’s do a deep dive into AI agents. You’ve heard a lot about these recently from companies like Salesforce and Hubspot, all the things they can supposedly do, all the power they will allegedly unlock. How much of the talk is hype versus real, and how will you get started on your AI agent journey?

    Part 1: What Is an AI Agent?

    Let’s start with the bare basics. What is an agent? An agent is infrastructure around an AI model that lets the model communicate with the world around it.

    Think of an AI model – like OpenAI o1 or GPT-4o, Google Gemini 1.5 Pro, Mistral Nemo, etc. – as the engine of a car. Incredibly powerful, comes in a bunch of sizes for different applications, very capable. Some engines you’re allowed to modify (open models), others not so much.

    A model is the heart of AI. These things cost millions of dollars and hours to make, by training them on crazy amounts of data. But you never use a model directly. In the same way that Microsoft Word is a piece of software written by humans for human use, AI models are pieces of software written by AI for AI use.

    We use models through an interface, something like ChatGPT or Claude or Poe, or within a service like Slack or Salesforce. These interfaces are essentially the rest of the car – the seats, the wheels, the windshield, the gas tank, etc. You never drive down the road sitting on an engine – you drive down the road in a car or truck.

    And like a car, a consumer interface like ChatGPT does nothing without us to drive it. Open up ChatGPT and stare at the empty screen and it will not do anything. It won’t take action on its own, just as our Toyota Prius in the driveway doesn’t go anywhere without us getting in and turning it on.

    Suppose we wanted our vehicle to do something on its own. We’d need a self-driving car or other autonomous vehicle, one that had instructions for what to do, one that could drive itself.

    That’s what an agent is. It’s a different kind of infrastructure around an AI model, one that has greater autonomy to perform a specific task.

    Think about an agent like a self-driving vehicle with a specific purpose. A commuter electric vehicle (EV) isn’t a pickup. A pickup isn’t a commercial tractor or plow. You wouldn’t drive a John Deere X9 1100 industrial combine to work (or you shouldn’t, anyway), nor should you plow a field with a Prius. The Prius engine might be able to do some light plowing, but the rest of the vehicle is unsuitable for that purpose.

    In the same way, while an agent has a very powerful generative AI model at its heart, it still has clearly defined infrastructure around it that guides its purpose, and that infrastructure dictates what it should be used for.

    What kind of infrastructure? An AI agent’s infrastructure looks a lot like any other app. There might be connectors to external data sources, talking to APIs upstream like your CRM. There’s likely code, middleware that performs specific tasks in sequence. That code will talk to an AI model of some kind, and then when results come back from the AI model, there will be more code to send the results somewhere else. Finally, there will be some kind of scheduler or triggering mechanism that will tell the agent to do its thing.

    I’ll give you an example of an AI agent I built. I built an agent to score blog posts. The agent’s components are:

    • A Python script to grab URLs from an RSS feed and extract the main page content, storing it in a SQLite database
    • An R script that talks to the SQLite database, feeds each blog post, one at a time, into a language model along with the Trust Insights Ideal Customer Profile
    • The same script takes the scores returned by the language model, stores them back in the database, and then makes a bar graph of the scores over time

    This agent is manually triggered, but once it was written, it’s something that can just run and do its thing without my intervention. It can’t do anything else EXCEPT this task, but it does this task well.

    AI Blog Post Scoring Output

    If this sounds like an app, it is. “AI Agent” is just fancy, expensive language for a self-driving app.

    Part 2: Why Do We Care About AI Agents?

    The reality is that consumer tools like ChatGPT scale poorly. You can, and should, have things like prompt libraries where you can share and improve prompts, but ChatGPT still requires a human to operate it.

    What if you wanted to take a high performing prompt, like writing a monthly report, and have a machine do that task autonomously? Instead of you having to download the data, clean the data, pass it to an AI model, and copy paste the results into an output format, you’d have an agent perform that sequence of repetitive, predictable tasks instead.

    Agents are a natural evolution of the most repetitive generative AI tasks, where you have clearly defined processes and outcomes that are as predictable as the sun coming up or the phases of the moon.

    That part, the repetitive part, is critical. Agents are best suited for repetitive tasks with predictable outcomes, where minimal human supervision is needed. Language models give us far more flexibility than traditional agents – anyone who’s ever used old-school chatbots on websites know how little flexibility the past generation had – but are still best suited for tasks with clear outcomes. It’s a poor use case for an open ended chatbot, for example, to run on your website where people can have conversations about anything. (Not to mention expensive)

    How do you know what’s a great task for an agent? Here’s a simple benchmark. If you use generative AI in a system like ChatGPT and you’re just copy pasting prompts and copy pasting outputs with very little thinking or review needed, you’ve got a task that’s ideally suited for an agent.

    That SWOT analysis you run quarterly where you just copy paste data, upload files, copy paste the prompt, and then copy paste the results into a slide deck? That’s 100% an agent task that can and should run autonomously. The final product should just appear in your inbox.

    The example earlier of scoring blog posts? Doing that one at a time, copy pasting the post in, and copy pasting the results out? Giant waste of time for a person to do that. Having AI do that with the help of code around it? Perfect use case to unlock the power of AI at scale.

    A lot of people think AI Agents are just chatbots, in the same way they think of ChatGPT as just a blog post writing tool. Yes, they can do that. But using it just for that purpose is like taking a Harrier to the grocery store. It can do that, but it’s capable of so much more.

    What are some common AI agent use cases? It depends on the industry. In marketing, these can be things like shopping assistants, price optimization, consumer-facing chatbots, customer service, etc. Here’s the easy rule of thumb: if it’s a valuable prompt today, it’s an agent tomorrow. Someone will wire up the necessary infrastructure to turn that high-performing prompt into a self-driving app.

    Part 3: What Does the Agent Ecosystem Look Like?

    As we’ve seen and heard at major conferences and trade shows this fall, everyone and their cousin is rolling out a low-code/no-code agent framework. Salesforce has AgentForce. Hubspot has Agent.ai. There are dedicated platforms like Poe, Character.ai, etc. that are low-code or no code.

    There are advanced, heavy-code platforms like Google Vertex. And in the various marketing technology landscapes, there are hundreds more agent vendors. All of them promise the same thing – powerful, easy to build, easy to deploy agents. Many of the no-code ecosystems offer pre-build agents that you can simply pick up and use, in the same way that you use any SaaS service.

    All of the SaaS agent platforms have the same purpose: to get you to buy (or stay) with their platforms by fully automating agent creation and management. In some ways, it’s another form of vendor lock-in – everyone wants you to build agents in their ecosystem, on their platform, so that it’s harder to leave.

    Here’s the thing: remember that AI agents are nothing more than self-driving apps. That means that like AI models themselves, you can build agents entirely within your own ecosystem and infrastructure. If there’s a use case for generative AI that you feel is valuable enough to turn into an agent, then there’s good reason to consider building that agent in house as opposed to having it live in a third party’s ecosystem.

    How do you decide whether to buy or build? It comes down to whether or not you have the people, skills, and infrastructure to support the agent or not. Again, they’re just apps. If you already self-host apps at your company, then you can just as easily self-host AI agents.

    Part 4: How Do You Build an AI Agent?

    You’re probably at least 50% of the way towards your first agent. Let’s go through the evolution of an agent. We start with basic generative AI, with prompts in tools like Claude and ChatGPT. You use these tools with prompts. This is old hat by now.

    Over time, you should be systematizing your use of prompts, with things like prompt libraries. These are stock prompts you’ve built that create high-performance outcomes, and these prompt libraries are things you share with your team at your company. For example, at Trust Insights, we have a ton of shared prompts in our Google Drive that we can just drop right into Gemini whenever we need to. And because they’re nothing more than Google Docs, anyone can edit them, upgrade them, etc.

    After your prompt library, you might get to a point where you want to turn your prompts into hosted apps, using custom GPTs (ChatGPT), Gems (Gemini), or artifacts (Claude). These apps are sophisticated prompts and background information that are designed for a specific task like writing Google Ads or analyzing competitive corporate strategy. They’re tuned for that specific purpose. They’re not self-driving – a person still has to operate a Gem, a GPT, or an artifact, but they’re very close to an agent. A user who picks up one of these apps doesn’t have to do any prompting, they can just get right to work.

    It’s at this point where you would convert the Gem/GPT/artifact into an agent. Instead of you, the human, using the app, you might convert the app into an agent that can retrieve the appropriate data, pass it through a generative AI model, and then send the outputs somewhere for other use.

    How do you do this? It’s at this point where you would decide to use a third party platform or build it yourself. The best way to make that determination is to use the Trust Insights 5P Framework; we should define the purpose, people, process, platform, and performance of our agent and how it evolves.

    First, the purpose: what is the AI agent supposed to do? What outcome should it generate, what problem should it solve? If you’re extending the work you’ve already done with GPTs/Gems/Artifacts, then you should have a pretty clear idea of what this is. If you’re starting from scratch, take the time to write out some user stories and do requirements gathering – the same as you would for building any kind of app.

    Second, once you have a robust list of requirements, take a look at your people. Who will be using this agent? Just internal employees? The general public? That’s important to know. Equally important is to determine what skills your agent needs. If you’ve identified that the agent will need serious coding, do you have those skills in-house? If not, then you’ll almost certainly need to use a third party platform.

    Third, it’s time to look at your current processes, your current prompts and AI. Do you have specific requirements you need to meet, standards for compliance, data privacy, etc.? The same standards you use for regular, human-driven generative AI will apply to your agent, so if you have to use AI solutions with a certain level of data privacy, that will in turn help you choose your AI agent strategy. You can’t reasonably put an agent on a hosted service that doesn’t meet the same standards as the models themselves.

    Once you’ve done these steps, then you can start evaluating what platform you want your agent to live on. As with all AI, remember that choosing the technology and platform comes last, after you’ve worked out the requirements for everything else.

    Finally, decide how you’ll measure the performance of your agent. At a fundamental level, it obviously has to work. Additional KPIs will be determined by your purpose; if your goal is to serve X number of customers, then you can measure that and determine if that’s working as intended. If privacy is a critical concern, then you measure how much data is leaking in your ecosystem. If marketing is your purpose, then you measure marketing activity like how quickly customers are advancing through the customer journey. Whatever your purpose is, measure it.

    In the video edition, I walk through the building of a simple agent based on my language translation system instructions.

    Wrapping Up

    AI agents are a natural evolution of our generative AI use cases. If we’re already getting benefit from our human-driven AI usage, getting benefit from our agents is the next logical step in the process.

    I would add that for minimum frustration and maximum value, you don’t want to skip straight to building an agent most of the time. Instead, think about using tools like Claude, Gemini, and ChatGPT essentially as R&D tools to develop the use case for an agent, prove the concept, iron out the bugs in your prompting, and only then build it into an agent. You’ll save yourself a tremendous amount of time and headache that way.

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    At the start and end of the 2024 Marketing AI Conference (MAICON), Paul Roetzer and team asked these ten questions:

    • How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?
    • How will generative Al model advancements impact creative work, and creativity?
    • How will consumer information consumption and buying behaviors change?
    • How will consumer changes impact search, advertising, publishing, etc.?
    • How will Al-related copyright and IP issues affect marketers?
    • How will Al impact marketing strategies and budgets?
    • How will Al impact marketing technology stacks?
    • How will marketing jobs change?
    • How will Al impact agencies?
    • How will Al impact brands?

    Each of these questions is practically a book unto itself, so over the next few pieces of content, we’ll tackle some of them. Every person will and should have their own answers to these questions – your answers should vary from mine based on how you use AI.

    So let’s dig (I should start using delve unironically) into the first big one:

    How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?

    Part 1: What is a Next Generation AI Model?

    The first big part of the question we have to tackle is what constitutes a next generation model. What exactly does this mean?

    Today’s models fall under two fundamental architectures: transformers and diffusers. Transformers predict the next token in a sequence based on all the previous tokens. Diffusers essentially compare noise to images they’ve already seen and chip away at the noise until they arrive at a blend of whatever the prompt is.

    After the release of OpenAI o1, many people are talking about the next generation of models as reasoning models, in alignment with the march towards artificial general intelligence, the ability for AI to be smarter than people at any given task. That’s certainly one dimension of next generation models, but not the only one.

    What is reasoning, and why do we care? Today’s models, when naively prompted, do not do anything more than they’re told to do. Give them a simple prompt, they generate a simple answer. New models like o1 have a certain type of reasoning, known as chain of thought (aka “think things through step by step”) built it, as a way to get generally better results out of AI that require thought.

    An interesting side effect of “reasoning” pointed out by my friend Ruby King is that reasoning is only applicable to some tasks. Others have noted, for example, that o1 is producing better reasoning but less creative writing. This makes logical sense; reasoning is all about finding logical steps to solve a problem. Logic inherently involves some level of probability.

    Creativity, in many ways, involves the antithesis of probability. What makes something creative is often something low probability. A piece of music that is made entirely of high probability notes is boring and uninteresting. A piece of music that has surprises in it – key changes, tempo changes, things that are less common – is more interesting.

    That’s one dimension of a next generation model – foundation models may split into different types of cognitive tasks. Some models may have more creative outputs at the expense of logic, and others may have the reverse.

    But that’s only one dimension. Other next generation models may ford significant gaps in today’s model capabilities. For example, transformers and diffusion models don’t work well together. If you’ve ever tried to make a slide deck with generative AI, you know what a frustrating and ultimately fruitless task that is.

    Why? Because transformer models – predicting the next word, effectively – are fundamentally different than diffusion models, which predict what pixels should be nearby based on words in the prompt. The net result is that you either get slide decks that are all words, or you get clip art slides that are trite and meaningless.

    On top of that, creating a slide deck is both art and science, both reasoning – creating a logical flow of a presentation – and creative, creating surprises along the way.

    Today’s models may be multimodal, but they have exceptional difficulty crossing multiple boundaries at the same time. Future models, next generation models, should be able to do this more fluently, but for today, easily creating a logical AND creative slide deck is out of reach for many models and tools.

    Next generation models will also have substantially larger working memories. Already, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro has a working memory of up to 2 million tokens, or 1.5 million words. They’ve extended that window experimentally to 10 million tokens, or about 7.5 million words. Once models get that large, they start to take on even greater capabilities and draw even more connections within data.

    Finally, next generation models will be taking in multiple different data types. Right now, transformers models handle tokens, and mostly text. Diffusers handle mostly images. But we’re seeing the advent of models that have sensory inputs – vision, audio, spatial awareness, tactile awareness, olfactory sensors. As more sensory data makes its way into model training, expect models to have greater capabilities that rely on sensory knowledge.

    Part 2: How Will We Use Next Generation Capabilities?

    So we have several different dimensions of next generation models, from reasoning vs. creativity, true multimodal, and sensory data. How will we use these capabilities?

    Every time we add new capabilities, we can infer several things. First, we’ll use those new capabilities at an increasing rate, proportional to how we think the models will do. People leapt to use models like GPT-3.5-Turbo back in the day, even when it was clear it had substantial limitations. Today, we use models like GPT-4omni or Gemini 1.5 at much greater capacities because of the models capabilities.

    This in turns mean that we’ll turn over more tasks to machines based on those capabilities. Suppose, for example, we have models that have true olfactory understanding. A perfect use case for such a model would be detecting things like spoiled food, gas leaks, etc. Anything that a person could smell, a model that has olfactory data could also smell. What does that change? How will we use it differently?

    Smell and taste, for example, are highly correlated. Today, language models are capable of processing enormous amounts of text data. It’s trivial to write a book review with a language model. Could we have a model with olfactory data provide food reviews? Yes.

    The potential of splitting foundation models into reasoning versus creative has already happened in the open models world; many people have done fine-tunes of open models like Llama 3.1 to make them more creative writers (less reasoning) or better coders (less improbability). Foundation models following suit is a logical thing.

    The big change will be overcoming boundaries between model types. There are experiments in labs now on “transfusion” models that blur the line between transformer (words) and diffuser (images). How well these perform compared to their pure progenitors remains to be seen, but early research suggests strong capabilities.

    Part 3: What are the Second Order Effects of Next Generation Models?

    Now, let’s dig into those second order effects. For those unfamiliar, a second order effect is a consequence, often unforeseen, of a major change. For example, a second order effect of the mobile phone was that the offline world became part of the online world, a hybridization we see today. Go to a restaurant and scan a code to download the latest menu, or order something in an app that arrives at your front door.

    Job loss is one such second order effect of generative AI. We see this in professions like software development, which has had massive declines in hiring demand over the last two years. This happens in part because AI is so empowering to developers, it increases their productivity 2x-5x easily. What happens when you have an employee who does the work of five people? You don’t hire four more people.

    What this means for you and me is that we have to continue identifying what value we provide that a machine cannot. The biggest, easiest win is our ability to build meaningful relationships with each other.

    New job creation is also a second order effect. A colleague of mine who has a PhD in a relatively arcane field has been working for an AI company writing text just for AI. Their work is never made public, never released, never consumed by another human. Instead, it helps this company make a bespoke fine-tune with data that no one else has.

    Election tampering and disinformation are second order effects, and as models become more capable, the ability to do bad things with them increases at exactly the same rate as the ability to do good things.

    As I often say in my keynotes, paraphrasing the Captain America movie: AI is an amplifier. It makes the good into better and the bad into worse. Every capability we add to AI amplifies what we can do with the tools, for good or ill.

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    My martial arts teacher, Mark Davis of the Boston Martial Arts Center, asked me this intriguing question:

    “If you were going to start from scratch with absolutely nothing, how would you launch a podcast today?”

    What makes this interesting is that I’ve done cold starts before. There’s a reasonably tried and true process for doing this. So today, let’s incorporate our latest and greatest knowledge to help Mark and anyone else starting a podcast get up and running.

    Part 1. Podcast Strategy

    Before anything else, be absolutely clear on two things.

    1. Why are you doing a podcast? (and why a podcast in particular) Podcasts aren’t especially good at attracting new audiences. They’re very, very good at retaining and deepening a relationship with an audience.

    2. Who is your ideal audience? Who do you expect to listen to and love this show? Think of all the major elements of an ideal customer profile: demographics, psychographics, needs, pain points, motivations, goals, and why they would care about your podcast.

    It is perfectly fine if you’re doing a podcast just for fun, just for yourself or a handful of friends. You want to be clear about that.

    It is also perfectly fine if you want to use a podcast to grow your business. You want to be equally clear about that.

    There’s a huge difference between cooking dinner for yourself and opening a restaurant; while both involve the preparation of food, they have very different organizational structures. Be clear about your purpose.

    Second, once you are clear about your purpose, understand what success looks like.

    • If you’re making a podcast for yourself, then success is something you enjoy making and listening to.
    • If you’re making a podcast for your existing martial arts students, success is a high listenership rate and perhaps what you share on the podcast showing up in the classroom.
    • If you’re making a podcast for the general public, success might be new appointments at your dojo.

    Whatever your purpose is, your performance should have some kind of quantifiable outcome that maps to the purpose. If you don’t have that, then deciding what to do and how to do it for your show is going to be challenging.

    Part 2. Podcast Tactics

    When we’re building a podcast – or any content – we have a four part basic structure:

    • Create: make the stuff
    • Distribute: publish the stuff
    • Activate: get people to the stuff
    • Measure: see if people got the stuff

    This structure is the overall tactical map of our content.

    Create

    We also need an execution map for the cadence of our stuff. For this, I most often recommend the YouTube 3H content pillar strategy:

    • Hero content: big, expensive pieces you publish infrequently that are quarterly. These are big productions you put a lot of time and effort into creating. Often, hero content is big thought leadership stuff, stuff that answers the question “Why?”. Ideally, this is content that eventually people pay for.
    • Hub content: these are medium size pieces you publish regularly but not frequently, like on a monthly basis. These monthly pieces often answer the question “What?”.
    • Help content: these are small, high frequency pieces you publish regularly and frequently, as often as daily. They have relatively low production value or are carved out of bigger pieces. These weekly or daily pieces often answer the question “How?”.

    For example, if I was running a martial arts school podcast, I might make my hero content something that takes a tremendous amount of time and research, like the intricate history of a system or a cross-cultural comparison of a set of techniques.

    I might make my hub content something like teachings from a seminar or boot camp where I spend 45-60 minutes on a specific technique or topic, a deep dive that someone could get a lot of value from.

    I might make my help content something like individual lessons from a class. Here’s why bending your knees on this technique is the difference between winning and losing. Here’s a common mistake made during this technique.

    For a podcast, I would also strongly consider a seasonal approach, where you do a defined batch of content around a specific topic for a specific period of time. You might, for a martial arts school in my tradition, do a season of the podcast on the grappling from the Gyokko family lineage, or do a season of the podcast on the sword fighting method of the Kukishin family lineage.

    If we put all this together, a season of a podcast for a martial arts school might look like this:

    • Episode 1: Hub/What – a medium size piece of content launching the season, in which you explain what the topic is, why it matters to some people, and how people should think about it.
    • Episodes 2-9: Help/How – a series of small pieces of content that look at the topic in granular bits, adding color, dissecting things that go wrong, etc.
    • Episode 10: Hero/Why – the season finale in which we see the big picture, we understand how all the pieces fit together, and we have a satisfying conclusion that puts a bow on the topic.

    That’s the general approach I would take if I were starting out today.

    Now, how do you decide what content to make? This is where knowing your customer is absolutely essential. I would take all the data I have about my ideal customer, build a synthetic ideal customer profile, and ask questions of my synthetic customer using generative AI. Ask the synthetic customer about how long each show should be, about what topics they do and don’t want to hear about, about what channels they spend the most time on.

    You can find out more details about how to do this in this livestream episode.

    What do you use to make your content? Here’s my top piece of advice: unless you have a defined, specific reason not to, every podcast should start as video.

    Every podcast should start as video.

    Here’s why: video is the richest form of content, something I’ve said for decades now. Using the Trust Insights Video First Content Framework, if you start with video, you have the ability to make every other piece of content.

    So no matter what my podcast was about, even if it was just a talking head like this one, I would start with video. How to record a great video show is outside the scope of this issue, but there’s no shortage of content available online for how to up your game when it comes to creating video.

    Once you have video, then you use today’s modern tools to transform it. If you’re on a budget, there are tons of free and low cost tools you can use to do the transformation. Here’s my suggested roster.

    If you have a decent production budget (200/month or more):
    – Adobe Creative Cloud (especially Adobe Premiere and Adobe Express) to do the editing and conversion (    50/month)
    – Fireflies to do transcripts (25/month)
    – ChatGPT or Google Gemini to do generative AI stuff (    25/month)
    – OpusClip to do social media clips (29/month)
    – Libsyn for podcast audio hosting (    20/month)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    If you have a very small budget:
    – DaVinci Resolve to do the editing and conversion (free, with some limits)
    – Whisper.cpp to do transcripts (free, open source, a pain in the ass to set up)
    – AnythingLLM + Mistral Nemo + Koboldcpp to go generative AI stuff (free, open source, a pain in the ass to set up)
    – Canva for thumbnails (free, with some limits)
    – Substack for podcast audio hosting (free)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    Your workflow should be to create and produce the video first, then convert the video to audio, then turn the audio into transcripts, then turn the transcripts into summaries.

    Distribute

    Distribute is where we put the stuff, where we put our content. The goal of any content marketing, including a podcast, is to get our content in the hands of people. To accomplish this goal, we need to publish where people are. What’s the single biggest podcast discovery engine? Yup – it’s YouTube.

    If you have a decent production budget (200/month or more):
    – Libsyn for podcast audio hosting (    20/month)
    – WP Engine for website hosting (if you don’t already have a website) ($20/month)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)
    – Substack for the podcast newsletter (free)

    If you have a very small budget:
    – Substack for podcast audio hosting (free)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    I would publish my podcast videos on YouTube, ensuring every episode is marked as a premiere (to help more people see it, and existing subscribers, if any, to find it). Be sure you load a closed captions file, a thumbnail that’s easy to read, and any other basic YouTube best practices to ensure discovery.

    I’d then load and schedule the audio to drop at the exact same time as the video. As with the video, ensure you’ve got cover art and other meta-data to make your show look as good as it can look. If you’re using a podcast distribution service like Libsyn, that service will handle the distribution of the show to all the major podcast networks.

    I’d have the blog content, summaries, and newsletter supporting each issue also drop at the same time.

    This is orchestration, getting the content to everyone at the same time. And speaking of which, choose a distinct date and time each day or week for when your content will appear, and stick to it. I can’t tell you the number of times over the past 10 years when I’ve asked an audience on stage when Seinfeld was on, and anywhere from 1/3 to all of the audience has said, “Thursdays at 9 on NBC”. Seinfeld hasn’t been on the air for more than 30 years, and yet people had that schedule so ingrained in their heads, that great content would be available on NBC on Thursdays at 9 PM that they remember it more than three decades later.

    Activate

    The third leg of the table when it comes to podcast tactics is activation. By activation, I mean getting people to the show. “Build it and they will come” worked in podcasting in 2004. After 2004, that stopped working. A podcast is an information product, and you have to market it like every other product.

    That means creating social media content (which is why I do recommend tools like Descript or Opus Clip to create short form versions of your content), creating email newsletters to remind people of your content, and leveraging your existing network to share your content. Your video shorts should be on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts.

    If you’re a martial arts teacher, how well do you know your students? How well do you know their social media presence and other forms of influence? How well are you recommending that they consume AND share the content you’re creating if it’s valuable to them?

    The reality is that today, the most scarce resource the average content creator faces isn’t time, it’s attention. In the pocket of almost every person is an entertainment machine with a million choices. Our audiences are one tap away from something else, so we need to make sure we’re leveraging every possible avenue of recommendation and referral to get attention to our content.

    In every piece of content, if your purpose is to get more people to consume it, you have to blatantly ask people to share it. People are so distracted today, so all over the place, that you have to be bold in telling them what to do. Hey, if you liked this episode, please send it to two friends.

    If you have budget, consider using paid media – advertising – to support your content. Again, if you did a great job with your ideal customer profile, you can ask that profile what ads they would respond well to, and then use generative AI to create those ads and publish them. If I were running ads in support of my show, I would run them to my Substack so that I could capture them on an email list.

    Measure

    The last leg is measurement. How do we know we succeeded? This goes back to our strategy. If we were clear with our strategy up front, then measuring its effectiveness should be straightforward.

    You can, and people should, use the built in measurement tools in services like Libsyn, YouTube, Instagram, etc. to see how much audience they’re reaching, but these are attention numbers. You still want to have a meaningful outcome beyond just attention.

    One of the most valuable and simple ways to measure a podcast is to simply ask people when you interact with them, “Hey, how did you hear about us?” or “What made you come in today?” If the podcast is never, ever an answer, then you know you’re not reaching new people. If your goal is to retain existing students, then you can simply ask them what they thought of the most recent episode, what key point resonated most with them, what else they’d like to hear on the show.

    Part 3: Outcomes

    As with all content creation, expect podcast success to be a multi-YEAR endeavor. It will take you time to become proficient at each of the stages we’ve talked about, and it will take time for audiences to accept and then expect content from you. Once you’ve proven that you can deliver content on a regular and frequent basis that serves their needs, you’ll start to see real growth in your content creation efforts.

    We could, and I have, go into exception depth on each of the topics, but my teacher asked me for the basics. This is the basics of launching a brand new podcast. Create video, transform it into as many other formats as possible, publish it, get people to it, and measure it. This is the white belt set of techniques to master. There’s so much more to podcasting after this, but as with life on the dojo floor, if you can’t get the white belt techniques down, put aside notions of trying out black belt techniques.

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    This week, something completely different. I just returned from… surgery! Yes, I had unplanned surgery due to gall bladder issues I didn’t know I had. On Tuesday, I thought I had food poisoning, but by the time I got home from a client event on Thursday, I knew something was up. I went to bed, woke up Friday morning, and went to urgent care. They said, “uh, sir, you need to go to the ER,” and I did. After a whole bunch of tests, they determined that something was seriously wrong with my gall bladder (like you’re about to go into septic shock and die within a week), removed it, and I came home this morning.

    The medical team at Metrowest Union Hospital did a great job and I’m grateful to them, my family, and the team at Trust Insights for all the support and care I’ve received over the last two days.

    Now, that’s not the headline story, or at the very least, that’s not what this newsletter is about. No, this issue is about generative AI. As soon as I knew I had to go to urgent care, I started to document everything that had been going on. So I gave ChatGPT a prompt that went like this:

    “You’re an award-winning physician with expertise in all forms of medicine. I need your help compiling a thorough intake list, as I’m on the way to seek medical care. I want you to ask me all the questions a doctor would ask on intake so that I have everything written down and documented. We will want things like symptoms, a timeline of events, and everything you think is appropriate for me to provide to my doctor. I do not want you to provide a diagnosis; that we will leave up to my doctor. But I want to make sure my doctor has all the information they need. Please start asking me questions.”

    Over the span of 15 minutes, ChatGPT (and really, any foundation model could do this, I just had the ChatGPT app on my phone) asked me question after question, and spit out this summary at the end.

    Patient Summary:

    [omitted personal medical data]

    Current Symptoms and Timeline:

    • Tuesday (Los Angeles):
      • Consumed a burrito at approximately 11:30 a.m. Pacific Time, followed by tortilla chips and other snacks around 5 p.m.
      • Experienced severe vomiting from 5 p.m. to 2 a.m., expelling a combination of burrito contents, tortilla chips, and salsa.
      • Experienced excruciating abdominal pain during this time.
      • Managed pain slightly with ibuprofen; acetaminophen had minimal effect unless combined with ibuprofen.
      • Eventually managed to sleep through the night.
    • Wednesday:
      • Felt unsteady but completed a presentation.
      • Meals: Plain bagel for breakfast, turkey and cheese sandwich for lunch.
      • Continued to manage discomfort with a combination of ibuprofen and acetaminophen.
    • Thursday:
      • Flew back home and attempted to reduce medication intake.
      • Pain progressively worsened throughout the day and during the flight.
      • Meals: Omelet and a bagel for breakfast, snacks on the plane.
      • Took two ibuprofen before bed at 11 p.m. (Eastern Time) and slept until 4 a.m., when pain woke you up.
      • Have been eating approximately one and a half meals per day since Tuesday.
    • Friday:
      • Tested negative for COVID, flu, and RSV with a combo test this morning.

    Pain Description and Physical Discomfort:

    • Location of Pain:
      • Near the top of the stomach on the front side of the body.
      • Between and below the shoulder blades on the back side of the body.
    • Pain Level: Consistently around 7-8 on a scale of 10.
    • Additional Symptoms:
      • Difficulty breathing, though heart function is normal.
      • Difficulty maintaining a prone or seated position.
    • Positioning:
      • Laying down flat is uncomfortable.
      • Laying on the side is marginally more comfortable.
      • Laying on the stomach is very uncomfortable.
      • Sleep on a sleeping wedge to elevate the body, which is part of normal life.

    Heart and Respiratory Observations:

    • ECG: Normal sinus rhythm, tested repeatedly over the last two days.
    • Blood Oxygen Levels: Normal, around 97%.
    • Heart Rate: Elevated over the last two days due to pain.

    Medications and Supplements:

    • Daily Supplements:
      • Psyllium husk fiber, approximately 2.5 grams per day.
      • Standard multivitamin.
    • No other medications taken regularly.

    Similar Past Incident:

    • Earlier this year in Edmonton, Canada, a similar but less severe episode occurred.

    After I visited urgent care, I took a screenshot of the printout and had ChatGPT add that to the summary so that when I arrived at the ER, I didn’t have to repeat myself. I was able to hand the attending physician my phone and get them up to speed very quickly.

    Summarization is one of the top use cases of generative AI, and in this case, it was able to take a lot of rambling, disorganized inputs (because I kept revisiting things out of order) and organize them well.

    The feedback I got from the physicians in both urgent care and the ER started the same. “Are you a doctor? Do you work in healthcare? This is very thorough!”. Had I not been in exceptional pain, I would have explained what I actually do for work.

    I want to reiterate and re-emphasize that ChatGPT and generative AI are NOT medical diagnostic tools. They cannot substitute for a human doctor.

    They cannot make accurate medical diagnoses, and you certainly wouldn’t want to bet your life on it. But they CAN dramatically speed up the intake process AND be very comprehensive about it, especially if you’re not able to think as clearly as you usually do. And it’s my hope that people and medical professionals think of them in that aspect – as an endlessly patient assistant who can keep asking questions, keep taking in disorganized information, and keep providing outstanding summaries.

    As long as I follow post-surgery guidelines, I should make a full recovery in a few weeks. For the folks who will see me on stage in a few weeks at the different events, you’ll please understand if I’m not 100% myself, but I will deliver all the value I can. And again, I can’t thank enough my family, the staff at Metrowest Hospital, and my friends at Trust Insights for getting me through this rather surprising turn of events.

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    This week, let’s tackle one of the most common complaints about content generation using generative AI:

    “It doesn’t sound like me.”

    Why doesn’t AI sound like you, and what can you do about it?

    TL;DR

    Don’t feel like reading this week’s issue? Here’s the AI-generated summary, summarized with Google Gemini and complete with very AI-sounding content.

    This issue of the newsletter explores the mechanics of how AI writes, emphasizing the influence of training data and the prevalence of common, and often bland, language. It delves into the complexities of writing style, highlighting the numerous components that contribute to an individual’s unique voice. The newsletter then provides a step-by-step guide on how to prompt AI to emulate your style, involving detailed analysis, scoring rubrics, and iterative refinement.

    Now, if you’re ready to dig in, grab a beverage, your laptop or computer, and a comfortable chair.

    Part 1: How AI Writes

    Let’s go back to the basics to review how generative AI systems – language models in particular, like the ones that power ChatGPT and Claude – work. These models are built using massive amounts of text data. As I mentioned in last week’s newsletter, the average model is trained on 7-10 petabytes of text data. That’s a bookshelf full of text-only books that stretches around the equator twice.

    Every word is broken down into small word fragments (tokens), and then each token’s position and frequency is measured against every other token, word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, and document. What you end up with after this extremely time-intensive process is a giant database of statistics.

    When we prompt AI to generate text with naive, short prompts, it naturally selects the highest probability tokens and assembles them into words. Here’s an example from a LinkedIn post I wrote the other day.

    LinkedIn image

    You can see that in this naive example – the prompt was, “continue this LinkedIn post” – it’s choosing the most likely word pieces to assemble.

    Here’s the problem: by definition, the most probable words are also the most common. And the most common words are… well, boring.

    Take some of the hallmark words of unguided AI-generated text like “delve”, “absolutely!”, and “embark”:

    Delve chart

    Why are these so frequent in the text AI generates?

    Well, because they’re frequent in the text AI was trained on. Think about it for a moment: what’s one of the largest sources of publicly available, free text data? Marketing content. We’ve been generated marketing content at a blistering pace for 25 years, ever since the dawn of SEO and search engines. Company websites are filthy with terms like “embark” and other corporate mumbling. And all that has filtered into the content AI generates.

    Here’s an additional gotcha about this kind of language. Remember that AI generates content based on what it’s already seen in any given conversation. If it can tell just from our prompts or a couple of paragraphs of sample information that we’re working on marketing content, the probabilities it chooses will be from… marketing content it’s already seen.

    Cue the tsunami of “delves”.

    Delve occurs in the style of text we’re writing; if you give generative AI a different kind of starting document or prompt, it’s going to come up with different high-probability words. Give it some purple prose, and you’ll see an avalanche of words and phrases that commonly occur in fan fiction (one of the largest sources of text data from sites like Archive Of Our Own).

    Here’s an example. This is with a very short prompt:

    Gemini WLW fiction snippet

    Not a delve in sight. Why? Just from the prompt alone, the language model understands that this isn’t marketing content. Delve isn’t going to show up because in the context of this language, it’s not common.

    That’s a key point we’ll come back to. Language models choose words based on the context of the words that have been in the conversation so far.

    If we want less boring writing, we need to instruct the language model to generate less common words.

    Part 2: Writing Style Basics

    What is writing style? How do we know what does and doesn’t sound like us? This is a more complicated question than it first seems, because writing style isn’t a thing. Writing style is an umbrella concept that rolls up dozens of sub-concepts.

    For example, diction – word choice – is a huge component of writing style, and one that sets up apart from other writers (including AI). Every individual person’s diction is different because we’ve all been exposed to different language, different words. The words you remember are tied to your emotional experiences in life; even if they’re broadly common words, the order in which you remember them is unique to you.

    Don’t believe me? Can you remember the words someone you cared about said that made you fall in love, or broke your heart? Probably. You might even remember the tone of voice they were said in. But that sequence of words is seared into your brain and when you write, it’s part of how you select language. If you’ve ever tried your hand at writing fiction and really gotten into it, you’ve probably noticed that little bits of language that you’ve said or had said to you crept in.

    Diction is just one of more than two dozen pieces of writing style, like pacing, tone, clarity, conciseness, sentence length, paragraph length, etc. – all things that identify you individually, like a fingerprint.

    This is why it’s so hard for the average user to prompt AI well to write like them. If you can’t articulate the fine details of your own writing style, there’s no way you’re going to be able to tell AI what to do.

    Part 3: Prompting AI to Write Like You, Step by Step

    So if we want AI to write like us, how do we do that? We have to create a writing environment that helps AI understand what it’s supposed to be doing. To accomplish this, we need samples of our writing – and more is better. Ideally, we have samples of our writing in the context we want to use AI for. How we write an email is different than how we write a book, or how we write a LinkedIn post, or how we caption an image on Instagram.

    More is better. A lot more. How much more? AI is going to struggle capturing your style from just a handful of blog posts, in the same way that a ghostwriter would struggle to capture it. If you had 20? That’s better. A year’s worth? Even better. When I build prompts for writing style, a year’s worth of content is good, two years is better.

    That’s the bare ingredients. Second, we need a language model that can hold that much information in memory. A year’s worth of content might be a couple hundred thousand words, depending on how prolific you are. A model like GPT-4-Omni, the model that powers ChatGPT, can only remember about 90,000 words or so. If you have more than that, you need to move to a larger model. The model I use for this sort of work is Google’s Gemini 1.5, which can remember about 1.5 million words in a conversation. Use the model that best fits the amount of data you have to work with.

    With an appropriate model and a corpus of our own data, we’re ready to get started.

    Step 1. Ask the Model What It Knows

    We’re going to follow the Trust Insights PARE AI Framework for this process, and the first step is to prime the mode. We ask the model what it knows about writing style components, because every model is different. Here’s an example prompt:

    Today, we’re going to analyze the writing style of an author, (your name here). What are the major components of a writing style (such as diction, intertextuality, etc.) for an author in the (genre)?

    Here’s what it would look like for me:

    Today, we’re going to analyze the writing style of an author, Christopher Penn. What are the major components of a writing style (such as diction, intertextuality, etc.) for an author in the nonfiction business book genre?

    What we’re doing is invoking the model’s knowledge of writing style from a specific, technical perspective. This is one of the reasons many prompts fail; you need at least a little domain expertise to know how to word your prompts with the specifics a model needs to know. We’ll want to augment it with the other questions in the PARE framework, like:

    • What are common mistakes made when analyzing writing style components?
    • What aspects of writing style components haven’t we talked about?

    Once the model has returned all the major knowledge it has about writing style, ask it to outline all the best practices for analyzing writing style in an outline. This helps reinforce the things we want to focus on.

    Step 2: Build an Analysis

    Now that we’ve got an outline of what writing style even is, we’re ready to move onto the next part, which is analyzing our writing. Here’s an example prompt:

    Using the best practices for analyzing a writing style’s components as outlined above, analyze the writing style of (your name here) based on these uploaded documents. Provide a detailed, comprehensive analysis in outline format.

    Then upload the text files of your writing. Remember, more is better and more task-specific is better.

    Let the language model produce its detailed analysis of your writing style based on the components it analyzed. We’ve now got some very nice details about our specific writing style, broken out by component. This is critical; remember that writing style is an umbrella term. By getting far more granular with each of the components, we’ll be able to give the model better directions.

    We’ll also want to have a page or two of examples in a separate document, perhaps a signature piece of content you’ve written. We’ll come back to this part later. Having a piece of signature content is important because it shows the frequency of our writing style components, something that is almost never captured correctly in an analysis of our writing style.

    Step 3: Build a Scorecard

    As we covered on this past week’s Trust Insights livestream, one of the ways to force a model to do a better job is to force it to self-evaluate. The best way to do this is to have it analyze and score its own work, but to do that, we need to give it a framework for doing so, a scorecard. The magic word here that invokes the right form of analysis is rubric. A scoring rubric reliably helps a model understand what we’re doing.

    Here’s an example prompt.

    Using the analysis of (your name here)’s writing style components, build a scoring rubric to assess how well a piece of content aligns to the writing style of (your name here). The scoring rubric should use variable integers (0-3, 0-5, 0-7) to score each writing style component, and the scoring rubric should total 100 points.

    The model should return a scorecard that we will use to evaluate whether a piece of writing aligns to our writing style or not.

    We should now have four documents: a list of writing style best practices, an analysis of our individual writing style, component by component, a page of signature content, and a scorecard to measure content to see how well it aligns with our writing style.

    Step 4: Generate Content

    We’re now ready to put these pieces into action. Let’s give the model some instructions and a starting topic to build some content in our writing style. This point is where you could start a new chat; all the work we’ve done up to this point is preparatory work that you only have to do every so often, as long as you saved the documents generated in the previous steps.

    Here’s an example prompt. Note that we are still using the Trust Insights RACE AI Framework to guide the model.

    You’re an expert in (roles). Your task is to (action). Some background information: (context). Using the writing style of (your name here) as provided, write the blog post about (topic) in the writing style of (your name here). Write 800 words in three sections: what the concept is, why the concept is important, and how to implement the concept. Use the writing style of (your name here) strictly; reference the (your name here signature content) to understand how the writing style should read.

    Here’s what it would look like if I did this:

    You’re an expert in marketing analytics and marketing attribution. You know Google Analytics 4, Google Tag Manager, data layers, attribution analysis, multi-touch attribution, uplift modeling, and marketing mix modeling. Your task is to write a blog post about the importance of uplift modeling to measure the effects of offline marketing activities. Background information: uplift modeling is a useful way to determine the impact of an activity outside a clickstream and digital analytics, by declaring which time periods in a measurement set have the activity question. Using techniques such as propensity score matching where the control and test units are individual days, we can measure the impact of a tactic while discounting data that’s “business as usual”. Using the writing style of Christopher Penn as provided, write the blog post about uplift modeling in the writing style of Christopher Penn. Write 800 words in three sections: what the concept is, why the concept is important, and how to implement the concept. Use the writing style of Christopher Penn strictly; reference the Christopher Penn Signature Content to understand how the writing style should read.

    You’ll add the Signature Content and the Writing Style Analysis documents along with the prompt.

    What does the model produce? A really nice blog post:

    Gemini First Draft

    Now, we’re not done. We’ve only done the generation. We need to know how well the model did.

    Step 5: Score the Content

    Like an intern or a student, we need to give feedback to an AI model about how well it did on a task. The most precise way to do this is the same as we do with schoolwork: we give it a grade. The nice thing about AI that isn’t true of schoolchildren is that AI is capable of grading its own work. We’ll use a prompt like this:

    Using the (your name here) Writing Style Scoring Rubric, analyze and score the blog post you wrote according to the rubric. Return your analysis and a score of your blog post.

    The model will return its outline of what it did well, what it did less well, and how it scored:

    Model score

    Not bad, right? We’re not done. This is only the first draft.

    Step 6: Refine the Content

    Now that we have a grade, we want to give our AI model a chance to improve its grade. Here’s an example prompt:

    Using the score and analysis of your blog post and the (your name here) Writing Style Scoring Rubric, create a refinement of the blog post that improves on the score.

    Let the model do its work to create a revision. Once it does so, ask it to score its revision:

    Using the (your name here) Writing Style Scoring Rubric, analyze and score your revision.

    What you should get is a score that helps you understand what the model changed and improved to achieve a higher score:

    Gemini Score Analysis

    And let’s take a look at the final output. How well does this match me?

    Gemini Final Post

    Not bad, right?

    Part 4: Scaling Your Writing Style

    You’ll notice that this process is incredibly thorough. It requires a lot of effort the first time around, though you can see after step 4 that it gets more efficient with subsequent uses. However, there’s still a lot of manual work.

    What if you wanted to do this at scale? That’s a topic for a different newsletter, but the short version is that tools like Google Gemini have APIs. The APIs can take things like prompts, documents, etc. And programmatically run and repeat the process from Step 4 onwards as many times as you want – with the caveat that each use of the API costs you money above and beyond what you already pay for generative AI.

    But if you had a need to drastically scale you, the process is something that can be automated and still do a very good job.

    While that might not be something you want to do with your personal writing, you could see how useful that would be for deploying with a corporate style guide, for example. Suppose you’ve had a series of bloggers over the years at your company and all your content is a wild mashup of styles. With code, an API, a credit card with a decently large limit, and the pieces we’ve generated here, you could have a language model rewrite every piece of content to conform to your current style guide.

    Shameless plug: if you want help doing that, that’s something that Trust Insights can do for you.

    Part 5: Wrapping Up

    I’m impressed that you made it all the way to the end. Congratulations. And I’m even more impressed that you tried each of the steps in the process and saw how they work. Perhaps you even have the necessary pieces to do this on your own now, and if so, I’m glad it was helpful.

    The reason AI can’t easily mimic writing style without the extensive set of processes we walked through today is because writing style is such a complex beast. There are tangible aspects an AI model needs to know to create. There are intangible aspects that a model needs to know to mimic. And like all writers, the first draft is rarely the best draft. By forcing the model to self-evaluate and then improve, we force it to become a better writer.

    Is it an exact match of how you write? No. It never will be. So much of your writing, as we talked about with diction, is rooted in your emotional knowledge, something the machines don’t have access to. But will it generate a piece that’s really good? If you follow the process, the answer is yes.

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    Be very cautious of AI search results tools.

    Not that it’s a bad idea to think about how your brand is positioned within language models like GPT-4o (the model that powers ChatGPT today), Claude, or Gemini, but because it’s a nearly impossible task to make that determination.

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    Today’s newsletter is going to be very technical so here’s the TL;DR:

    Using “AI optimization” tools to determine your “AI SEO” is a bit of a fool’s errand because AI models do not work the way search engines do. If you want to influence AI models, the best thing you can do is publish very high volumes of very high quality content – in other words, traditional SEO. The main difference is that instead of links as the gold standard of measurement, it’s appearances around the public web.

    That’s it. Go home. See you next week.

    …now, if you’d like to stick around for the detailed explanation, grab your libation of choice, find a comfortable position, and let’s dig into the weeds.

    Part 1: How AI Models Work

    To learn why trying to measure our findability in AI models is a bit of a fool’s errand, we first need to know how these things work. As a reminder, a model is the engine of today’s generative AI tools. Services like ChatGPT use models like GPT-4omni under the hood.

    When these models are built by deep-pocketed technology companies, they’re trained on massive amounts of text data, 7-10 petabytes of text, mostly extracted from the public web. To give you a rough sense of how much text that is, all of William Shakespeare’s plays fit inside roughly 5.4 megabytes. 7 petabytes is 1.3 billion copies of Shakespeare’s works. If each volume is about 3 inches tall, 7 petabytes is a stack of Shakespeare’s books that circles the equator twice.

    That’s how much text you need to train today’s models. It’s also why only a few companies can make state of the art foundation models – it costs millions of dollars in time and hardware just to digest that amount of text.

    The first part of the process is breaking down words into tokens, little three and four letter fragments of words.

    Then, every token is turned into a number.

    Then, every token’s position is compared to every other token’s position in a massive statistical database. That’s what is under the hood in every large language model: a big pile of statistics. The way I recommend people think about this conceptually is to think about word clouds. In any given piece of text, what’s the word cloud for EVERY WORD in that text? That’s essentially what’s going on, conceptually. (Mathematically, that’s not true but no one wants to do linear algebra in a newsletter)

    When we ask a model something, using a prompt, the model breaks down our question into tokens, then goes into its library and fetches all the word clouds it can find that match those tokens.

    For example, suppose you looked at all the word clouds on the Internet around the term Starbucks. You would see words like coffee and tea. You would also see thousands of other words. That’s what is inside a large language model. When we give a model a prompt, what comes back are the most related words (actually tokens, but words is fine for this conceptually) that the model maker’s software has seen all over the Internet.

    Starbucks word cloud

    This is why attempting to measure a brand’s presence in a language model is a bit of a fool’s errand. It’s not like regular SEO, where you can see how web pages relate to each other through links. Instead, every part of every word is related to every part of every other word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, and document.

    Part 2: How People Behave

    The technical obstacles to measurement are tough enough to deal with. However, there’s an additional wrinkle. In old school SEO, we pay attention to things like words. You’ll still see things like keyword lists floating around, and keyword planning tools. Those are fine when you’re measuring links and checking the text of words in links as a way to determine what a page is authoritative about.

    All that goes out the window in generative AI, because that’s not how people talk to AI. People don’t type in things like:

    “Trust Insights consulting” or “management consulting firm”

    They ask real questions and have real conversations: “Give me a list of recommended management consulting firms that specialize in healthcare in the Boston area,” and “Who is Trust Insights and what do they do?” And “What’s a good recipe for guacamole for people who are allergic to citrus?”

    You might think, “Oh, then we can just ask common questions and measure how often we come up in responses, right?”

    Except, going back to part 1, every word gets tokenized when we prompt a model. The more words, the more tokens, and the more specific and clear the response… and the harder it is to predict what people themselves are going to type into an AI model, and the more likely it is the model is going to return different results.

    Here’s an example. Suppose I type in:

    “Who is Trust Insights and what do they do?”

    I’ll get a response from Google’s Gemini model that looks like this:

    Gemini Results

    Now, suppose I type:

    “What does Trust Insights do and who are they?”

    Before we look at the results, it should be clear that these are basically the same question. We should get basically the same answer, right?

    Nope.

    More Gemini Results

    These are wildly different answers. Both are factually correct, but you could not easily predict what the answers would be. If you’re trying to measure even whether or not your brand is in an AI model, you can see how complicated this could get.

    Why does this happen? Remember that the way these models work, they take into account the order in which words appear when they’re first trained.

    The order of words matters. In search engines, in traditional search, word order matters very little because it’s a much different language technology. In language models, word order and even seemingly unimportant words can trigger different token activations and lead to very different results.

    Imagine how problematic this becomes when an informational query like “Recommend some top consulting firms in the Boston area” and “Recommend some Boston area top consulting firms” yields totally different results. Good luck measuring your brand presence on every possible way of wording informational queries.

    Part 3: A Cornucopia of Models

    Okay, so the conversational nature of generative AI means it’s very, very difficult to predict what an AI model will even say, much less measure our brand strength in it. Let me add an even bigger wrinkle.

    There are many, many more models in generative AI than there are in traditional search. In traditional search, you mainly have to worry about ranking well in Google. In generative AI, you have a much, much wider field. Here are just a few:

    • Google’s Gemini powers Gemini (the app) as well as Google’s AI Answers and every other place they try to stuff Gemini.
    • GPT-4omni powers ChatGPT and the many, many companies that have built their infrastructure on OpenAI’s platform, like Hubspot’s ChatSpot.
    • Anthropic’s Claude models power a variety of writing apps as well as their own web app.
    • Meta’s Llama family of models power Meta AI and the AI search in all of Meta’s apps like Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and Messenger.
    • Mistral’s family of models power apps and services around the world but especially in the EU.

    And there are many, many, many more. You can see and test the top 89 (yes, 89) in LMsys’ Chatbot Arena:

    Chatbot Arena example

    Any company or tool saying they can measure your brand’s presence in AI had better be able to query at least these major models, not to mention the tens of thousands of smaller models that are in production, like IBM’s Granite in WatsonX.

    In fact, IBM WatsonX is a great example of how challenging even answering the question of AI presence can be. People building enterprise apps on that platform can choose from over a dozen different models. If you want to influence large enterprises using the WatsonX system, you’d need to influence each of those models.

    If any company or piece of software is telling they can measure your brand’s presence in an AI model, and it can return that result in less than a day, they’re lying. There’s no kind way to put it. They’re lying. You would need to query dozens, if not hundreds of different ways of asking a model questions about your brand, tens of thousands of different ways to ask questions about your industry or niche, and ask those questions of at least half a dozen, if not more models. Chatbot Arena, one of the top sites for testing and measuring models, has 89 top models to test. Even fully automated, you’re not getting that answer in under a day, and certainly not for free. The compute costs alone would be in the hundreds of dollars just for one model.

    Part 4: Ground Truth

    Most generative AI services that offer consumer interfaces have started creating grounding in their software; that is, the software gets answers from the model and then essentially fact checks them with website data, typically from search engines. Meta’s AI model does this. ChatGPT does this. Google’s Gemini does this.

    Which means… while people may not necessarily use search engines the way they used to or as much as they used to, optimizing your content for search engines is still vitally important. Showing up in search engines means that when an AI model is unsure about its answer, if the model has the ability to call tools (like web searches), it’s going to ask the nearest search engine.

    Those sites and pages that do well in legacy, traditional search will be the points of reference for AI models that are checking their own work, which is a polite way of telling you not to fire your SEO team just yet.

    Part 5: So What Do We Do?

    Let’s get to the So What? as Katie Robbert likes to say. Okay, we effectively cannot measure our brand presence in an AI model because the architecture of the model simply makes that infeasible.

    But what we can do, what we know how to do, is create content on the Internet that’s available for models to learn from. Almost every AI company making models uses some or all of the Common Crawl archive of public web pages as the base data for its model training. Common Crawl is a regularly updated massive archive of text, 6.2 petabytes as of the last crawl, and is something you can – if you have the disk space – inspect yourself to see what’s inside. You can download portions of it and see what part of your website has been scraped. You can see what news outlets, what blogs, what podcasts, etc. are inside their archive – and by extension, inside the training data for language models.

    We can and should be creating high quality, high volume content everywhere we can. Make YouTube videos at scale – we know for sure companies like NVIDIA have scraped millions of hours of YouTube video for their model training. I am almost 100% confident OpenAI has scraped the same from YouTube, because in their voice transcription model, Whisper, it recognizes and tags my voice in audio

    We should be creating content in all the places we know scrapers go, and AI models go to obtain training data. Github. StackExchange. Reddit. YouTube. Local news sites. Substack. Various social networks.

    And finally, but probably most important, we should be building brand like crazy. You should be building your personal brand by being in as many places as you feasibly can be. You should be publishing guest content wherever you can. You should be on every podcast that will have you. You should be joining livestreams and being on any YouTube channel you can be.

    We want models to train on our names and our topics from as much text as possible, which means we need to create that text in as many places on the Internet as we can. However, instead of chasing inbound links as we used to in SEO, now we’re just chasing placements, period. Believe it or not, this is where public relations firms and teams could make a huge difference for their companies. The best firms and teams excel at getting media placements, so their strategy just has to pivot from “we want top tier media” to “we’ll take any media we can get”.

    You Can’t Reasonably Measure AI Brand Strength

    The bottom line is this: yes, you can measure your brand’s placement in AI, but it’s a time-intensive, compute-intensive, very expensive process to do so if you do it well. (it’s free and easy if you want inaccurate, incorrect answers)

    However, you can absolutely measure the impact of AI on your business using the gold standard of measurement: asking people how they learned about you. There is no substitute for this, there never has been, and when done properly, will always be a timeless, valuable source of marketing attribution.

    If you’d still like to try measuring brand strength in AI and feel like lighting a lot of money on fire, my company Trust Insights will try to talk you out of that but will still do it if you absolutely insist..

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    What constitutes good content? And can generative AI help us make it?

    I’ve been thinking a lot about good content lately, about compelling content. What makes one thing worth paying attention to, and not another?

    For example, you can’t go for more than two thumb swipes on any social network without someone complaining that reach is in the toilet, that engagement is down, that people aren’t paying attention. And yet, when you hit up the channels and accounts of the top tier content creators, or when you listen to system admins like Adam Mosseri of Instagram, they all say the same thing: there’s no economic incentive for content channels to throttle popular content. It makes no business sense to show people less of what they love. Taking away great content from people would reduce ad exposures, and that’s contrary to their business model.

    That makes sense.

    So why are people complaining about reduced reach? A good number of folks who are complaining are… just not creating content people want.

    This is a familiar challenge for marketers. Most marketers know we’re creating stuff people don’t love. We’re creating – on a good day – mediocre content, not good content, not great content.

    So how would we change this around? How do we build good content?

    Part 1: What is Good Content, Anyway?

    First we have to know what good content is. Quick, what is it? What are the common characteristics of good content, and how can we use generative AI to help?

    A lot of people crap on generative AI for making bland, boring, generic content, and there’s validity to that criticism. Generative AI is very much like the mythical genie of fairy tales and legends. You get exactly what you ask of it. If you ask bland, boring questions – like, “What makes good content?” – you get bland, boring answers. It’s the nature of AI itself to return probabilities based on the questions we ask it. The more average the question, the more average the answer.

    But that doesn’t answer the question of what good content is, does it? It just sort of shifts blame. So how do you define good content?

    Here’s how a couple of folks talk about it. My friend Ann Handley:

    “There are three keys to creating good, quality, engaging content… And the three keys are bigger, braver, and bolder, right? Bigger stories. Braver marketing or braver marketers as well. And bolder writing and bolder tone of voice.”

    Or this quip from Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart in 1964 in Jacobellis v. Ohio:

    “I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it…”

    While that’s Justice Stewart’s definition of obscenity, you could make the case that’s the definition of good content as well. Good content is content we like, content we enjoy, content we’re compelled to consume, whether it’s celebrities suffering eating increasingly hot wings or investigative journalism answering obscure questions like the hardest nightclub to get into in the world.

    And therein lies one of the greatest challenges of good content. It varies from person to person.

    Part 2: Good Content is Good Storytelling

    Okay, so if good content is an individual choice, how are we supposed to create it at scale? There are some fundamental truths to good content. One of those truths is that good content is often a good story.

    Invariably, good content tells a story, because we’re adapted well to consume stories. Millennia before the printing press, we were sitting around campfires telling stories. What to eat, what not to eat, why Bob isn’t around the campfire because he got mauled by a bear… we’ve learned through millennia to capture the information we need to share in a story.

    Here’s one of the challenges of storytelling. Besides the infinite number of ways there are to tell a story, our audience has specific kinds of stories that resonate with them best. If we want to be effective in our storytelling, in our content creation efforts, we need to align our content with what our audience finds most compelling.

    How do you do that? This is an area generative AI can’t help you with, but a real audience can. With your existing audience, ask them a simple question: what shows do you enjoy, especially long form content like podcasts?

    This is a critical question because the marketplace has already produced good content. The audience has already decided for themselves what is good and what isn’t, especially for content people consume outside of work. We don’t need to define what good content is – and in aggregate, we can’t anyway. But we can absolutely get a sense from our audience of the content they already appreciate.

    Once you have some answers from your audience, we can put generative AI to work in a way that we really can’t. Here’s why.

    Stewart’s definition encapsulates a really important concept. Language itself is a form of code, a way to take very deep concepts and shorten them. Think about how much data is encoded in the word apple or daughter or sushi. There’s two challenges with language like this. First, the language is so compact that we have to fill in a lot of the blanks ourselves.

    What kind of apple? Fuji? Granny Smith? The computer company? There’s a lot of concepts packed into that one word.

    Second, almost every word is relative to our experiences. I love sushi. You may hate sushi. And there are so many kinds of sushi that my association of the word may bring up a very specific kind of sushi as a mental concept, and that is guaranteed to be different in someone else’s head.

    For example, I might have a certain mental and emotional association with even a simple word like mother. Some people have strong positive associations with it. Others have strong negative associations. When we use that term, we may be invoking wildly different associations in people’s heads.

    Because of this, we have a very hard time putting into words why we like something. We know when we like it. We know when we don’t like it. But we generally struggle to explain it in a complete and comprehensive way, partly because of how much language we need to encapsulate it, and partly because we have our own emotional associations that can color our perceptions.

    That’s what Justice Stewart was talking about 60 years ago in his ruling. We know it when we see it, not because we don’t have the words to describe it, but because the sheer amount of language we’d need to surround the concept would be greater than an army of ants surrounding a slice of watermelon.

    Part 3: Generative AI Understands Good Content If We Tell It To

    Generative AI models don’t have these problems. They have a nearly infinite vocabulary, and because they’re not sentient, self aware, or emotionally intelligent, they don’t have the loaded associations that you or I might have as individuals. That same averageness that causes them to generate bland content with poor prompts becomes an advantage when we need to find words to describe something.

    Let’s put this to practical use. Suppose we learn from our audience that they really love shows like Freakonomics or Search Engine. That alone is helpful information, information that could go in something like an ideal customer profile. But what if we could understand the meta-structure of these shows, to see how they’re formatted and structured to be compelling?

    We absolutely can. Today’s generative AI models like GPT-4-omni, Claude Sonnet 3.5, and Google Gemini can all accept things like audio and video files as inputs. Instead of trying to describe good content ourselves, what if we could have a generative model consume some of our audience’s favorite shows and help us understand the practices these specific shows use to create good content?

    In other words, we take the final dish and we reverse engineer the recipe using generative AI. If we can understand the recipe, then we can take the recipe’s concepts and apply it to our own content, converting it from good to better.

    Let’s step through the basic process. The video edition of this newsletter shows each step in action, should you want to see it. First, using the Trust Insights PARE AI Framework, I prompt the model to spit out everything it thinks it knows about great storytelling. This step helps us diagnose whether the model even knows what it’s talking about or not. It also serves to build an insanely rich prompt for future questions because every subsequent prompt in a conversation is composed of the entire conversation to that point.

    PARE Prompt

    Once we have a solid base of knowledge for what good storytelling is, by adjusting the model’s output if necessary, we need to show, not tell the model what good storytelling is. We need, as Justice Stewart said, to help the model know it when it sees it. Once we’ve loaded a few episodes, we ask the model to analyze the structure of the shows. How do they do what they do? What are the strategies, tactics, and ways they implement their practices?

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    We next ask the model to build us a scoring rubric, a way for us to analyze our own content against the best practices that the model observed from what we know to be good content. This scoring rubric accomplishes two things. First, it helps the model be more granular about how it assesses and analyzes content. Second, it helps us, the humans, better understand the criteria for content we create.

    Build a scoring rubric

    Finally, once we’ve built the informational infrastructure for understanding compelling storytelling in a very specific format, we can take that as a template and have generative AI examine our existing content and reformat it, apply these best practices to it. It’s important to note here that we want to apply the structure and the concepts of our best practices content, not replicate the content itself.

    Depending on the level of control you want to have over the final output, you could direct generative AI to rewrite your content to adhere to the general best practices, or simply produce an outline that you can then manually reorder your content with.

    Conceptually, imagine you had a country song, and you knew what made a great rock song. You’d apply the principles of rock to your song, but it would still be your song. This is critical – if you want this technique to work well but you don’t want to lose your own voice and unique style, you have to bring your own first draft to the party. Don’t have AI build it – you build the country song, then have it make the rock song from it.

    And if you want to turn the dial to 11, you could also incorporate your ideal customer profile in at this stage as well, to have the model critique not only your storytelling skills but also how well aligned the content itself is to what your audience cares about.

    Part 4: Let AI Help You Make Good Content

    So, let’s wrap up. There is no such thing as good content in aggregate, any more than there’s such as thing as the average person. There is content your specific audience appreciates.

    There are thus no best practices to create good content for the average audience member, but patterns we can learn from other content our audience already appreciates.

    We use generative AI to identify these patterns, distill them down into concepts we apply to our own content, to better make it fit what our audience appreciates – but we do so with an eye towards maintaining our voice and originality, just putting the content in a more appealing format.

    And when we do so, when we apply the structures and practices our audiences appreciate to our existing content, we’ll make something they specifically like better.

    The road to good content has been paved by the marketplace as a whole. We just need the sense and the tools to see what’s been done and travel down that road with our own content.

    And if you’d like help doing this sort of content analysis work with AI, shameless plug, my company Trust Insights does that (and much more).

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    What’s On My Mind: What’s the ROI of AI?

    “Remember that Time is Money.” – Benjamin Franklin, Advice to a Young Tradesman, 1748

    Let’s talk about the ROI of AI today; while the focus will predominantly be on generative AI, it can be classical AI too. A lot of folks are asking the very sensible question, what is the ROI of AI? How would you go about determining it? So let’s dig in.

    Part I: ROI

    What’s the ROI of [insert thing here] is an age old question. Those folks with my color hair probably remember questions like “What’s the ROI of a website?” to skeptics in the 1990s. “What’s the ROI of social media?” in the 2000s, “What’s the ROI of mobile?” And so on. Sometimes the questions were asked in good faith, trying to figure out how much to invest in a platform. Other times, for more conservative folks, it was asked in bad faith to shut down any kind of initiative.

    The amusing thing is, most people get ROI wrong. ROI – return on investment – is a financial calculation. It is expressed either in dollars or percentages, and there is no substituting anything in the equation. (There are a lot of people who love things like “return on [insert buzzword here]” that are nonsensical in this context)

    Here’s the equation:

    ( earned – spent ) / spent = return on investment

    That’s it. That’s ROI. To calculate the ROI of anything, you have to know what you earned, and you have to know what you spent.

    If you don’t have those numbers, you cannot calculate ROI. Period, end of story.

    A fair number of folks use the term ROI when they really mean value. That’s incorrect. The value of AI is different than the ROI of AI; things can have value that you might not be able to express in monetary terms.

    For example, suppose you’re running a campaign to get someone elected to office. There’s a clear, measurable binary outcome – either the person is elected or they are not. But that result is not financial in nature (unless the person is corrupt and then you can measure bribes later, I suppose), and so while there is value, there is not ROI.

    Here’s something else that’s rarely discussed with ROI. Even when you have the numbers, it’s not always an appropriate measurement. ROI is best suited for low resource environments, for when you have very limited resources and you need to make every dollar count. You use it to judge whether or not something is worth investing in.

    However, not every scenario or situation is a low resource environment. There are plenty of companies who are in growth mode, who want to acquire audience or customers regardless of cost, or with cost as a secondary consideration. They need market share more than anything else. In those situations, ROI might unnecessarily constrain your strategy, and it would be an inappropriate measure of success.

    Part 2: Calculating ROI

    It’s at this point where I wish I had written this with AI, but I did not. So we press on. Let’s talk through calculating ROI. It seems pretty simple – (earned – spent)/spent fits on a sticky note. The challenge is, what does that mean?

    Earned is the gross revenue earned by a particular thing, be it a strategy, tactic, or technology.

    Spent is what you spent to achieve that earning.

    Sounds simple, right? Except it really, really isn’t.

    Earned

    Marketers in particular have struggled to determine earned for decades, through attribution analysis. What does each marketing activity result in? Forget spent – can you even determine whether what you did earned any money or not? This gets into things like “what’s the value of brand?” And individual channel analysis. What’s the value of email marketing, of social media, of SEO, etc.?

    There was a brief period of time, in the mid 2010s, when digital attribution was something the average non-technical marketer could do with a reasonable level of confidence. Tools like Google Analytics and a total disregard for individual privacy allowed marketers to get a sense of what was working. However, those days are long past; today, with things like privacy blocking in many operating systems, dark social (places like group chats, Slack, Discord, etc. That offer zero analytics to marketers) and AI-powered guessing in software like Google Analytics make attribution substantially more difficult overall and impossible for the non-technical marketer. You can still measure and calculate attribution, but it requires substantially more investment and technical skill.

    So earned is kind of a mess. Let’s move onto spent. That’s easy, right?

    Spent

    Spent is another area where things usually go off the rails. Why? Because there’s two kinds of spent, hard money and soft money.

    Hard money is literal dollars or kroner or euros spent, given to some other entity. When you buy ads, you are spending hard money with a vendor.

    Soft money is the opportunity cost of doing something. We pay people to work for us, and every hour someone spends doing one task is an hour they can’t spend on another task. Thus, we have to account for that in the spent portion.

    Let’s say someone is in charge of writing social posts, and their hourly rate works out to be 30 USD per hour. If the task takes them an hour, then we effectively spent 30 USD on that task – and that goes into our spent calculation.

    This soft money cost can dramatically change our ROI computations. Let’s say you spent 5000 USD on Facebook Ads, and you earned 7500 USD in gross sales. So far, our ROI is:

    (7500 – 5000) / 5000 = 50% ROI

    That’s terrific. For every dollar you spent, you earned it back plus 50 cents. Good job, right?

    But… it took:

    • A meeting of the marketing team to decide what ads to run, which was 1 hour with 5 people
    • The creative team to design the ad assets, which was a designer that took 4 hours of design time plus two rounds of revisions for a total of 8 hours
    • The marketing team had to write the ads, which took 2 hours and 2 people, or 4 hours total
    • Someone to actually put the ads into Meta Ads, which took 1 hour
    • Someone to monitor the ads and adjust them, which was 2 hours a week for the 8 weeks the campaign was in flight

    Add up those hours spent at a blended rate of 50 USD per hour, and your spent was 5000 USD PLUS the 34 hours of labor, or an additional 1700 USD.

    Now your ROI calculation is:

    (7500 – 6700) / 6700 = 11.9% ROI

    That’s still positive, meaning if you spent a dollar, you earned back the dollar plus 12 cents, but it’s a far cry from 50% ROI.

    This is the challenge of truly measuring ROI, taking into account what you earned and what you spent. You can obviously do it at a very gross level on a company’s basic finances – the company’s overall gross revenue minus expenses, but once you start trying to break things down, it gets messy in a hurry.

    Part 3: You Probably Can’t Calculate The ROI of AI

    Here’s the zinger: calculating the ROI of AI is contingent on already knowing the ROI of what you’re currently doing.

    If you don’t know the ROI of what you’re doing today, you cannot calculate the ROI of AI’s impact on it.

    That’s the bench test for when a stakeholder asks about the ROI of AI. Ask to see the spreadsheet or ledger which shows your current ROI calculations for any given strategy, tactic, or execution. If that doesn’t exist, then you won’t be able to calculate the ROI of AI because you have no idea where you’re starting from.

    But let’s say you’ve vanquished the mythical beast of ROI computation. You have an operating understanding of ROI for something like the Facebook Ads example we showed above. You’ve figured out what the earnings are for a particular strategy, tactic, or execution and you’ve calculated the hard and soft money.

    Now you can finally start figuring out what the ROI of AI is. Here’s how. First, we have to determine where AI has fit into the picture, and what the benefits are. Fundamentally, we care about three things in business: save time, save money, make money.

    When we save time, we fundamentally reduce the soft money cost in any process. If a task takes 10 hours and we’re paying a rate 50 USD per hour and we can reduce that task to 5 hours, we save 250 USD in soft money through that time savings.

    When we save money, we’re just spending less. That one’s pretty obvious.

    When we make money, either we’re innovating and creating new lines of income, or we’re optimizing and we’re getting more income out of the lines of business we already have, the ways we already make money.

    So how might this apply to the very tactical process of running Facebook Ads?

    Remember that 1700 USD chunk of soft money that reduced our ROI from 50% to 12%? If we can reduce the amount of time spent, we reduce the soft money cost, and our overall ad campaign ROI goes up.

    If we generate ad copy or ad design using AI that performs better in testing and deployment than our current ads, then that performance brings in more revenue by getting people to convert or more better.

    If we improve our targeting, our audience understanding, etc. to the point where we can reduce our ad costs, then we reduce the hard money cost. You would think this would be baked into ad platform software, but it isn’t; ad platforms inherently have a bias towards getting us to spend as much money as possible with them, not get the greatest possible results. (This is a common criticism of many big AdTech companies – the “smart” bidding algorithms are smart and do a great job – for the ad platform.)

    Once we identify where we can put AI to use in one or more of these three dimensions, we can measure the change. Let’s look at our Facebook Ads example again.

    • A meeting of the marketing team to decide what ads to run, which was 1 hour with 5 people. This part probably won’t change. People love their meetings.
    • We use AI to generate most of the ad creative, which cuts down from 8 hours to 4 hours (because revisions and review still takes time)
    • AI writes all the ad copy. With a very skilled prompt and/or appropriate infrastructure setup, this will take 5-10 minutes.
    • Someone to actually put the ads into Meta Ads, which took 1 hour. This won’t change much unless someone automates this via the API.
    • Someone to monitor the ads and adjust them, which was 2 hours a week for the 8 weeks the campaign was in flight. This also won’t change much.

    We go from 34 hours of labor to 26 hours of labor, which is a savings of 8 hours. At our 50 USD hour blended rate, our cost drops from 1700 USD to 1300 USD, a savings of 400 USD. Obviously, if we can trim back more, like dramatically shorten that initial meeting or change how we do ad monitoring, we can find additional savings.

    Let’s also say that our AI ads perform better. Instead of earning 5000 USD, we earn 6000 USD on our campaign because AI helped write more compelling ads.

    If we add up the savings in soft money plus the increase in income, we have a total of 1400 USD that AI changed for the better. That’s the ‘earnings’ of AI. Now, we need to determine what we spent. If we’re using foundation models and skillful prompting, we’re probably spending 50 USD a month per user on the tools. If we’re using APIs and programmatic AI, the costs might be higher based on how many API calls we’re consuming. (your Dev and IT teams would be able to help with that)

    Let’s say for sake of example that we have a ChatGPT Teams subscription and four seats. That’s 100 USD per month. Let’s say we also consume 100 USD of API calls from a script we have that can mass generate Facebook ads. That’s 200 USD per month in costs. If we plug that into our ROI formula, our ROI of AI, in this example, is:

    ( 1400 – 200 ) / 200 = 600%

    Thus, our ROI of AI here is 600% ROI. For every dollar we spent, we got it back plus 6 more.

    Soft Money ROI Only

    Suppose the ads didn’t earn more. If we just went with the time savings and our ads didn’t perform any better, we would have:

    ( 400 – 200 ) / 200 = 100%

    The time savings ROI would be 100% – for every dollar we spent, we got it back plus another dollar.

    This is how most organizations will probably find the ROI of AI. And because it lacks the income side, the earned side, and focuses just on the savings side, this is the “worst case scenario” ROI for AI – and it’s still positive.

    Here’s a clear example I gave from a talk recently about a time savings-based ROI. I wrote a prompt to help a PR team build pitch ideas based on a piece of content it was given. For those who don’t know, I worked at a PR firm for 5 years prior to Trust Insights. I sat in on many, many of these meetings. For one set of pitch ideas – not the pitching itself, just the ideation – the cost that was billed to a client was 12,000 USD for 66 hours of a team’s time, at an agency blended bill rate of 182 USD per hour.

    That same process I replicated in Google’s Gemini for a client’s PR team. The client was very, very happy with the outcome and thought the ideas were quite effective, so we’re at parity in terms of quality of outcome. The same process that took a team of humans 66 hours in my agency days took Gemini 1 minute, 52 seconds. At a bill rate of 182 USD per hour, that was 5.66 USD.

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    What’s the ROI of AI? For a client in this case, it’s the cost difference as the earnings minus the expense of AI. Even if I used the highest bill rate I charge, 1000 USD per hour, the cost would be 33 USD to run the software. Let’s be generous and say it took me 3 hours to build and test the software (it did not) for a cost of 3000 USD. What’s the ROI of AI in this case?

    • ‘Earned’ is what the client didn’t spend on the old way, 12,012 USD
    • Spent is what the client spent in this instance, 3033 USD

    ( 12012 – 3033 ) / 3033 = 296% ROI

    For every dollar the client spent, they ‘earned’ (saved) that dollar plus 2.96 additional – on this run of the project. They can then take that project and reuse it, over and over again, to generate idea after idea. What does the ROI look like on the second run, when it’s just the cost of running it, even at my bill rate?

    ( 12012 – 33 ) / 33 = 36,300% ROI

    It’s a ludicrous 36,300% ROI. For every dollar they spend on subsequent uses of the project, they get that dollar back (in savings) plus 36,300 more.

    Part 4: What To Do With the ROI of AI

    If you’re able to calculate the ROI of AI for different strategies, tactics, and executions, then you’ll be able to build business cases for why you need to expand or enhance your offerings. But what do you do with that number, other than brag to your CFO?

    One of the most important use cases for a stellar ROI of AI number is to re-look at all your business processes. There are some strategies, tactics, and executions which, when human-led, have had negative ROI. They cost more than they earned, and it was judged that it wasn’t worth doing.

    Once you become skillful at applying AI to business processes, you can dust off those old use cases. If a strategy, tactic, or execution was only marginally negative in ROI, applying AI to it might be enough to flip the balance to a positive ROI. In the previous example, 296% ROI was great for the first use of AI to replicate a more manual process. 36,300% ROI is just bonkers and could make almost any unprofitable process profitable if the process itself is a good candidate for AI.

    Here’s an example. Many, many, MANY companies that do ROI computation correctly for organic social media find that organic social media generally has negative ROI. You do it because you have to, for brand reputation management, retention, community building, and crisis aversion, not because it’s intensely profitable. Very, very few companies can demonstrate strong profitability with organic social media marketing alone.

    Why? The soft money cost of organic social media is very high. Now, if you were to decompose your organic social media processes and apply AI to them wherever you could – especially on content creation – you might be able to change that balance. If you could reduce your soft money expenditures on social media content creation by 2x or more, then you might find that your organic social ROI could start heading towards positive ROI territory. What was previously not a viable channel in terms of ROI could be again.

    AI has the strongest impact today on soft money expenditures – saving time. Like Ben Franklin said, time is money. If you want to demonstrate the value of AI, that’s where you’ll find the easiest benefit, and unlike the tangled web that is attribution modeling and proving the impact of marketing methods, you can demonstrate the ROI of AI with cost savings alone. The example above where we ignored the increase in ad revenue and just showed cost savings in time is the easiest way to get to an ROI of AI.

    Wrapping Up

    Here’s the unpleasant reality: very few companies will be able to show the ROI for AI because they can’t show the ROI of anything they currently do. The best case scenario for them is showing the impact of AI on cost savings.

    For those companies that have their house in order, they can branch out into showing saving hard money or making more money through things like innovation, improved product market fit, better competitive analysis, etc. Like social media, mobile, and the Internet itself, AI has a transformative effect on business that is a direct correlation of how well the business itself is run. to paraphrase the first Captain America movie, it’s an amplifier. It makes the good into great and the bad into worse.

    My partner and CEO Katie Robbert frequently says that new technology can’t solve old problems, which is 100% true. If you’re not able to calculate the ROI of anything else, you won’t be able to calculate the ROI of AI either.

    If you can show the ROI of what you’re currently doing, then you’ll be able to show the ROI when you apply AI to those processes as well – and the numbers will probably astonish you.

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