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Jim asks, “We’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using GA because of data privacy. Ever come across this?”

Plenty of times. There are situations in which Google Analytics would not meet regulatory requirements. Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant; the only industry certification for security it possesses is ISO 27001. And while no PII/SPI/PHI is ever supposed to be in GA, we know it happens. So best practice, if you are working in an environment that mandates a certification GA doesn’t have (like TS/SCI), you have to use something else.

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In today’s episode, Jim asks, we’ve actually gotten pushback internally for using Google Analytics because of data privacy.

Have you ever come across this? Yes.

plenty of times there are situations where Google Analytics does not meet regulatory requirements for data privacy, data security, things like that.

For the average business, as long as you’ve implemented correctly, it’s fine.

For businesses that require an ISO certification, like ISO to 7001, which is a cybersecurity standard, Google Analytics is fine.

for situations where you have sensitive personal information or protected health information, for example, Google Analytics is not fine.

And the reason for this is that there’s no way that you can prove the compliance to some of those standards, with Google as the data processor and the data living on remote servers that you don’t have control over.

And that is, and remains one of the biggest challenges for organizations that want to be able to use web analytics in a highly sensitive environment.

Generally speaking, a big part of compliance issues with Google Analytics, in general, is implementation.

If you are inadvertently passing protected information of any kind, even if it’s just personally identifiable information, you are creating a data security problem.

And you are also technically violating the terms of service for Google Analytics itself.

One of the prohibitions for using the software is that you do not attempt to store any personally identifiable information within Google Analytics.

So no email addresses, no names, no social security numbers, nothing that would create essentially a legal hazard for Google, as well as your organization, those things cannot be stored in there.

So a big part for all organizations is making sure that you have implemented and audited it on a regular and frequent basis to make sure you’re not pushing data in there that contains that information.

The biggest culprit are forms that do not use the HTTP POST protocol, there’s two protocols with forms GET and POST, get puts the data from the form into the URL of a form.

And then that gets processed on your website somewhere, post puts it in a different mechanism, that is not the URL.

And when you put personally identifiable information in the URL of the site, by default, you are putting it into Google Analytics.

And that’s where a lot of the trouble happens when you’re talking about getting data in there.

Now, there are other ways to put data into Google Analytics, the measurement API, the measurement protocol, custom dimensions, custom metrics, things like that.

But those typically require conscious intent, you have to want to do that to build it into your API calls, or to build it into a custom dimension or metric that you set up as a trigger in Google Tag Manager.

And so most companies, following basic compliance, wouldn’t do that.

It’s just not something they would do.

Whereas most companies don’t necessarily audit their forms to see what mechanism they’re sending.

And so you can be accidentally sending that data in.

So one of the critical things to do if you are using Google Analytics, regardless of your data privacy policies, is to audit your forms, audit your website, and make sure you’re not putting any obvious data into Google Analytics by accident.

Now, Google Analytics is not HIPAA compliant.

Google says so in the documentation on its website, it does not meet the standard for HIPAA, the health information Portability and Accountability Act.

As I said, the only certification has is ISO to 7001, the information security certification.

And so if you have higher restrictions, like FERPA, for example, HIPAA, top secret, special compartmented information, you absolutely should not be using Google Analytics, for pages that are involved in in those environments.

Now.

If you’re in, for example, a healthcare environment, you can have your public website running Google Analytics, right.

And then like a patient portal where people log in hmm that’s that’s a place where you don’t want to have it running.

You want to have a different solution in those cases.

Same for you know, finance or education.

If you’ve got you know, regulations like FERPA, for example, that governs education.

Your colleges website can absolutely run Google analyze Right, because you should not be collecting personally identifiable information on your public college website, on your student portal, on your academic portal on your faculty portals should not be running unless you have audited them, and made sure they are not passing sensitive information into Google Analytics.

Now, if you want to have web analytics in those situations, you need to have something that runs locally on servers that you own an audit and can pass it an auditor’s test.

And then you would run an open source web analytics package that runs on those servers that, obviously because you own them, and you own where the data is stored, you are then, in compliance with many of those things, the package that I recommend, is an open source package called matomo.

matomo runs, like I said, locally on a server that you set up, designate and run.

And it can be tuned to be, however strict or lenient, you want it to be with the collection of data.

But in those environments where you have, you know, user data, PII SPI, Ph I, that’s the kind of software you want to run, you want to make sure that they are kept separate, that you don’t use the same Tag Manager containers.

In fact, for servers that run sensitive information, I would not use Tag Manager at all I would use matomo has a version of its own Tag Manager that again, runs on a server that you control.

And keep those things separate, you’ll have to build separate reporting, you’ll have to go through the hoops of keeping those systems totally separated.

But in doing so you’re meeting the compliance requirements, as long as the server you’re running it on, of course, meets those compliance requirements as well.

So matomo, on a locally run server will get you web analytics without running into the data privacy issues.

Now, for organizations that don’t meet those regulatory requirement, but don’t have those regulatory requirements, they are not HIPAA organizations are not healthcare or education or finance.

And you’re just getting pushback internally.

A big part of that, again, goes to configuration and setup and doing audits.

And if you can demonstrate to your stakeholders, yeah, we’ve done an audit, we’ve validated that we’re not sending any data to Google that we shouldn’t be, then I think you can make a pretty strong case, that’s fine to use in those situations where you’re not going to be collecting sensitive data.

But it’s really important to do that audit.

There are any number of very straightforward techniques to do do that kind of auditing.

A lot of it involves you if you’ve got Google Analytics already running, just looking through the data you’re collecting, as well as being on the website itself and measuring to make sure that forms behave properly, that you can’t see something obvious in the URL like Oh, look, there’s my name, just submit the form.

That’s a pretty clear indicator that you’re not doing something correctly.

But it’s a good question.

It’s an important discussion, because not enough organizations think about privacy.

Not enough organizations think about data privacy, and where the data lives, and what data we’re sending and to whom.

So some good questions.

What I would do is contact your legal counsel and get a list of what you are required to comply with, and then use that to decide Can I make Google Analytics do this? Or is this something that Google Analytics simply cannot do? And if the latter is the case, and you have to use a different solution? Got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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Tara asks, “It seems pretty quick and simple to set up GA4, but do I need to set up all of the different triggers in the Tag Manager separately? Or can I just set up one Tag with all of the triggers?”

Google Analytics 4 relies much more heavily on Google Tag Manager than GA 3 did. To answer this question, we need to clarify the roles of each piece of Tag Manager.

A tag is the thing GTM does.
A trigger is the thing GTM listens for.
A variable is data GTM does something with.

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In today’s episode, Tara asks, it seems pretty quick and simple to set up Google Analytics for but do I need to set up all the different triggers in the Tag Manager separately? Or can I just set up one tag with all the triggers? Okay, so Google Analytics for leans much more heavily on Tag Manager than Google Analytics three ever did in Google Analytics, three or Universal Analytics.

You could do everything in one application.

Now it’s broken up into a couple of different places.

So to answer this question, we have to clarify the roles of the different pieces of tag managers so that we understand what each piece is supposed to be doing in order to make, say, a goal work.

Let’s go ahead and flip over here.

Let’s go to Google Tag Manager, we have three fundamental things, we have tags, we have triggers, and we have variables.

Variables are where data is stored in Google Tag Manager for things that you want to track.

And initially, you’re going to rely heavily on the stuff that is built into the application.

So for example, there’s all these built in variables.

So these are the things that you can track, these are pieces of data that you can collect.

The ones that I find we typically use the most for Google Analytics are things like the URL that somebody is clicking on the page that somebody is on maybe the page title, although that’s really unreliable, the form that somebody is filling out.

So those are some of the big ones that out of the box, we tend to use things like scroll depth, etc.

Also, you’ll typically also have like a Google Analytics for variable in here, which is your tracking ID, it’s best practice to always have that just as a as a preset variable so that you don’t ever miss type it particularly since the new tracking codes are now letters and numbers and not just numbers.

So that’s what variables do.

Again, you probably won’t spend a whole lot of time there.

Triggers are what happened when Google Analytics, Google Tag Manager listens for something listens to something, the user doing something.

And when the user does the thing, Tag Manager raises its hand says, Hey, I see somebody doing the thing.

So Tara’s question, can you set up one tag with all the triggers? Not really, unless you want to have all these different triggers go off at the same time, which most the time is not going to be the case.

You know, for example, in Google Analytics for when somebody completes a newsletter signup, right? Then they reach this page has this URL fragment, I want this trigger to raise its hand say, Hey, I see somebody doing the thing.

Let’s let you know, I’m letting you know somebody is doing the thing.

Tags are what tag manager does.

So it listens for the trigger.

And then when the trigger goes off, it says, Hey, I heard the thing.

And then the tag is what tag manager does with the thing.

So in this case, with the newsletter subscription goal, what we see here is here, we see that it sends an event to Google Analytics for right it says it listens for this trigger.

And then it sends this piece of information, what’s the value of this thing? And what is the newsletter subscription goals.

So that’s how you understand the concept of the way Tag Manager sends data to Google Analytics.

So in order to build goals, we have to have a trigger for to listen to, or to have a tag for it to do something.

And we have to track the corresponding event and make sure we understand that set up as a conversion in Google Analytics.

So since I actually haven’t have not gotten around to fixing my own website yet, for a lot of these things, let’s build one of these sequences right now.

I want to know, when somebody let’s see, let’s let’s do when somebody visits this page, my public speaking page, right, I think that’s a important page for me to understand if you’re visiting or not.

So the first thing I’m going to do is I’m going to make a trigger I want to listen for when somebody visits that page, let’s name it something intelligent, GA for public speaking, trigger, one of the most important things you can do is have a good lexicon, a consistent lexicon, so that you can under so that your tag manager doesn’t get cluttered up with stuff is like I don’t know what that even means anymore.

We’re gonna do a page view, why do we some pages I want my page to contain public speaking.

Generally speaking, there are very few situations where you’re gonna want to do an exact match.

Or an equals very, very few because for example, if you get to a page and from Facebook, it’s gonna have that fb clid ID on the end.

And if it is, equals and stiff, contains Tag Manager won’t raise its hand.

Okay, if you have contains, that’s our trigger.

We’re saying Tag Manager, raise your hand when you see somebody on the Public Speaking page.

And here’s what I want you to do.

So we’re gonna call this ga for public speaking goals.

I like to call them goals, even though g4 calls them conversions just so that I remember, oh, that’s the thing.

We’re going to go to this to ga four tags, right? There’s the configuration, which is the base pixel, that you do once, and then you never touch it again.

And then there’s the events, this is effectively a goal.

We’re going to choose our ga for tag here, we’re going to call this public speaking goal.

Again, they’re not called goals anywhere.

But if you are trying to maintain sort of a lexicon is especially if you have Junior people on your team who may not have spent a whole lot of time working in in ga four, but they’re familiar with ga three, call it something intelligible.

Is there a value that goal goes with this goal? I’m going to call this let’s call it $25.

Right? Are there any user properties? I need to add? No, not at this time.

Anything else I need to do with the sequencing? No, not at this time.

I’m going to map this to my ga for public speaking trigger.

So now, could I add more than one trigger to terrorists? question, yes, if I wanted to fire this trigger on a bunch of different things.

In this case, I don’t in this case, I don’t want to know, I don’t, I only want one specific condition for this to match up to when hit save, actually, we’re going to copy this public speaking goal.

And then hit save.

And now we’re going to submit because otherwise, nothing ever happens.

And now we want to tell analytics.

Hey, listen for Tag Manager.

And when tag manager says something, here’s what we want you to do with it.

So I’m going to go to my conversions.

In gf, we’re going to create a new conversion event, and how to paste in the exact matching name from Google Tag Manager.

And now I’ve got this goal, effectively to conversion, it’s marked as a conversion already, you’ll note that you can set up just an event.

And then once it appears, you can flag it as a conversion.

I don’t trust that, I want to make sure that I’m declaring it upfront.

So I’m going to go ahead and make sure that that public speaking goals in place.

So now we’ve built this goal, we’ve set it up in Tag Manager, we’ve got our trigger, the condition we want it to listen in, and this, this is why Google has gone this way, there’s so much more flexibility with the kinds of things you can listen for, you can listen for link clicks, you can vote for some kinds of link clicks, you can listen for form submissions, whatever triggers you want that have support here, because there’s a whole bunch of different types you can support.

Java JavaScripts time on page, if you if that was a goal in the previous thing.

You can do all these things, how far down the page, somebody get on like, say a key landing page would be a cool trigger to listen for.

And then the tags that you have, of course, give you again, a lot of flexibility.

And you’re going to send data to different places, right.

So in my tags, I’ve got some Google Analytics, three goals in here, which here is marked with Universal Analytics.

And I’ve got a bunch of my Google Analytics for goals starting to be put into place as well.

So that’s how we, we do this.

It’s a lot more granular, right, it’s a lot more to keep track of.

If there’s more than one person working in a Google Analytics, for instance, in your Google Tag Manager instance, I would strongly suggest using things like workspace environments, to keep things straight, having policies and procedures, maybe even the spreadsheet to track what each tag does.

So that you know who put it in, and what they did with it, those are going to be really essential for keeping this a sensible, clean environment, you can see that this is just my account.

And there’s still a fair number of things in here, right? This is just my account, one person’s in here.

And it still can get a little bit messy.

So if you’ve got multiple people in there, you definitely want governance of some kind, maybe even having, you know, tags named, not just with what they do, but maybe who put them in, and maybe an expiration date to say like Yeah, when this after this date, remove this tag, or at least pause it so that you keep it clean.

Because your tag manager account as people switch to Google Analytics for your tag manager accounts gonna get a whole lot more busy because you can see for each individual goal and I’ve got to have a tag and a trigger to make it work well so it’s gonna get crowded in here.

So make sure you have good governance.

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Reid asks, “are you saying that we should use properties in the same way we would use views in UA? And if so, does that mean a separate tag for each property in GTM?”

To understand the layout of Google Analytics 4 and where stuff has or has not gone, we have to understand the design philosophy. GA 4 looks at events done by users, so all the settings are centered around those. Views aren’t focused on either, so aren’t in the application; that’s something we now do in Google Data Studio.

Likewise, segments still exist, but they’re now in the Analysis hub and are limited to Google Analytics 4 only. If you want to replicate the segments functionality of GA 3, you’ll need to use event parameters and values, constructed in Tag Manager, to permanently tag that traffic as of this writing.

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In today’s episode Reed asks, Are you saying that we should use properties in the same way we would use views and Universal Analytics? And if so, does that mean a separate tag for each property in Google Tag Manager, this is in reference to Google Analytics for.

So no.

To understand the layout of Google Analytics for and where stuff has or has not gone, we have to understand the design philosophy around it.

So Google Analytics for really just like Firebase Analytics, which if you’re familiar with Firebase, for app measurement, Google Analytics for is basically extending Firebase to the web.

It is a market contrast to the way that Google Analytics three, aka Universal Analytics function, which was still an offshoot of the really the old, urgent analytics software at Google acquired back in 2005, right, so Google Analytics four is not just a version change in software is a completely different piece of software.

It does not share the same code base, it does not share any of the, the the legacy stuff that has been with Universal Analytics really forever.

And so part of that is that we have to understand there’s a new hierarchy.

Let’s go ahead and flip over here.

So this is Google Analytics three, if you remember, you have sort of a hierarchy of the account, which is the logical organization, you have the property, which is a logical website.

And then you have the view, which is the logical division within your company, that would be looking at a Google Analytics data in a certain way.

When we look at Google Analytics for the and the admin, for that, we see a very different view of the world, right, we have the account, which is still the logical entity, we didn’t have the property, which is the logical collection of users, that’s really important.

And then within that, you think of things like data streams, which are individual pieces of data about groups of users.

Now, why this matters is that the view is administrative, right? There’s nothing here that is unique to the user that you would be doing user level stuff with.

Whereas in g4, they acknowledge that we’re saying, Yeah, there’s no view because all that admin stuff should be somewhere else.

It doesn’t belong in Google Analytics.

So let’s look at a few of these things and see, where did they go? goals? Pretty straightforward goals has become conversions.

Right? So if we go into analytics, here, we have our conversions.

And the conversions come from events, right? So we specify where you can either automatically detect many events, or build custom events, either in Google Tag Manager or in Google Analytics and denote them as conversions.

So that’s a user level thing.

And that’s now done in the main application.

We have things like content groupings, that’s administrative that does not exist here at all, that would be something that we would do in reporting, if we want to in Google Data Studio, and to some degree can be done in, in Google Analytics for by building comparisons, right? comparisons are kind of the in application ad hoc way to build what we used to call segments and a lot of ways, right, well, you can look at dimensions and metrics and and and group things together.

For for logical ad hoc analysis, we look at filters.

Filters are done at the data stream level now, and there are not many right now.

There are, I believe, honestly, like, IP filters, let’s take a look here.

I just have some measurement stuff, I believe you can.

I don’t remember where it is in here.

Oh, there is cross domain tracking.

So modify events, create events, configure domains, that’s where you do your cross domain stuff, and define internal traffic.

So you can do modification of tagging stuff within there.

You can also access some of the stuff through the API.

Channels don’t exist at all in Google Analytics for that the concept I guess, didn’t work out.

And understandably so when, if you’ve done any work with Google Analytics, three, you know, what a pain it is.

To get channels to function correctly with the default channel groupings have been such a hot mess for so long, because people are inconsistent about how they do source and medium tagging, right.

Anyone who’s worked with any agency any To have more than one, you know that the UTM tracking source, medium tracking is just a free for all.

And that makes it really difficult to do any kind of analysis because there’s no consistency, right? So half of the time, half your social traffic was miscategorized as referral traffic, and things like that.

So Google just got rid of it entirely.

Now you have these choices, medium source, source, medium combo campaign, and then a few other things here.

Which means that if you’re looking at things like source medium, this gives you an awful lot of data.

Now, is it as conveniently grouped together? No, not anymore.

But is it something that you can look at and see now logical clusterings? Yes, you can see, you know, Twitter and Facebook, LinkedIn, and so on, and so forth.

So channel groupings, kind of got ecommerce, ecommerce as a whole big bag of arms, there is there’s actually a great post by a CMO Ahava, that is like 40 pages long on all the differences between Google Tag Manager, Google Analytics three and Google Analytics four when it comes to setting up e commerce and how much of it has to be done within Google Tag Manager.

So if you have not read seamos blog, go to Sema hava.com.

And he’s got a huge amount of stuff on it.

calculated metrics, again, mostly administrative segments, were an administrative thing that still technically exists in Google Analytics for, you have to go into the analysis hub for them.

And inside the analysis hub, you can build segments, but they’re unique to Google Analytics, for as far as I know, I have not been able to replicate getting them into Google Data Studio.

So if you want to do for example, social media traffic, you can still put together the you know, these crazy regex is and build all your let’s see, all your traffic comparisons, let’s do a traffic comparison here.

Let’s put in our social media traffic as another segment.

And so you can still do that.

If you want to be able to pass the data from application to application meaning from Google Analytics to say Google Data Studio, that’s no longer the case, you used to be able to do that.

But now, if you look inside of Google Data Studio in the GA for connector there, you really have a couple of different things.

And it depends on how you use segments did you use segments to essentially be a type of filter, if so now, you just use the filters.

If you use as a logical group of users, you would now build that in Tag Manager with events and parameters or event parameters and values, and then pass those parameters and values to analytics and then to Data Studio so that you could create those analytical segments.

So it requires you to rethink how you use the segment and decide, is it just a filter? If so you can replicate it natively in Data Studio? Is it a logical grouping of users that you need to have cross platform cross application functionality that needs to be denoted in the event at the time the event is created.

So it’s a very different way of thinking about these things.

But what used to be in the view, is now in a bunch of different places, and a lot of that has been offloaded to other functions.

If you use views for logical groupings inside of your company, you don’t want to create new properties, that’s just a mess waiting to happen.

What you want to do is offload that segmentation of your internal use to Google Data Studio.

That’s where, you know, you create a dashboard for accounting, you create a dashboard for HR, you create a dashboard for the inbound marketing team, you create a dashboard for the PPC marketing team.

And that’s the logical way to handle what used to be digging into it and letting him have it every 40 people have access to Google Analytics, it’s really not intended for that anymore.

It’s now an analysis tool.

And Data Studio is the reporting tool.

A lot of people got used to using Google Analytics for reporting.

And that’s not its function anymore, at least from what I can tell.

Now, I also have no internal knowledge of how Google debated isn’t based on what we can see in the application.

So it’s a good question.

I would not set up more than one property for more than one distinct user base.

Instead, use the different features and use the the applications that are there to make those distinctions now, I’ve got follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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Brian asks, “When should a company really consider shifting over to Google Analytics 4?”

Interestingly, reports from Reddit say people setting up new properties are not given an option for GA 3 (aka Universal Analytics, it is available as an ‘advanced’ option) so we’re already seeing Google pushing hard for GA 4 adoption.

You should deploy it as soon as possible to begin collecting data in parallel with your existing Universal Analytics properties. You should also consider setting up a training property you can muck around with.

You should begin using it as the standard of measurement once you can replicate everything that mattered to you in GA 3. That will take some time as the configuration and setup to do so will take a little while. This also requires proficiency with Google Tag Manager and Google Data Studio.

Everyone who works on the affected team should take and pass the GA 4 migration course available for free from Google.

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Christopher Penn 0:07 In today’s episode, Brian asks, When should a company really consider shifting over to Google Analytics for? That’s a really good question.

Because Initially, I was saying that, you know, give yourself a lot of time to get used to it and things like that.

But over on Reddit in the Reddit analytics subreddit, people are setting up new properties are not being given an option for ga three.

And agencies are saying clients, big clients are asking asking for asking to switch over.

I guess having heard of the the presumed benefits of Google Analytics for so we’re already seeing an adoption push for the technology for Google Analytics for and funnily enough, when I went over to my Google Analytics account here today, when I went to go here, and go to create a property, guess what it’s now Google Analytics for so anyone creating new Google Analytics accounts, is being shown this and getting set up by default in Google Analytics for which, if you watch other videos in this series, can present a bit of a challenge, right? If you’re not familiar with it, now, Google Analytics three, aka Universal Analytics is still available.

It’s under the advanced options here.

So you can also create an older legacy account as well.

But clearly, Google has decided that GTA four is what people should be using, there’s even an upgrade option here to convert a Universal Analytics account, do not do this.

Do not upgrade your universal account just yet.

Create a new property for GTA four and have them run in parallel for a little while.

And here’s why.

We’ve talked about this a bunch of times.

But the the measurement philosophy in Google Analytics is very different, very different from Google Analytics, three, in the sense that things are measured differently, configuration is done differently.

And if you’re not proficient in that philosophy, Google Tag Manager and Google Data Studio, then moving to Google Analytics, four could be a bit of a learning curve.

And by the a bit, I mean, a greased wall made of marble.

So when should you be doing this? When should you be making the leap? Well, you should be deploying Google Analytics for as soon as reasonably possible, given any challenges you have in your culture and an organization.

Because, as with everything with Google, nothing is retroactive.

So the sooner that you can deploy it and get it collecting data, the better.

Even if you don’t fully configure it, just get it out there and get it listening and gathering up information.

Right.

So that’s one.

And it should be done ideally, in parallel with your existing accounts.

Don’t touch that upgrade button, just don’t do it.

And you probably should also set up a training property as well, you’re allowed, you know, 80 or 100 properties per Google Analytics account.

So set up a Google Analytics for core account, and then label one your training ga four account and that can be the one that you mess around with and blow up and, and you’ll accidentally create all sorts of chaos on but have those two setup in parallel, it’s a good practice to get into is have a training ground.

If, as in this case, you’re not resource constrained, so that you have a place for you and your team to be experimenting, and nobody’s gonna feel bad like, Oh, dang, we just nuked all of our company’s data by accident.

That will necessitate because the property and operate to the property level that will necessitate duplicate tags and Tag Manager for your training in your Live account.

So just keep that in mind that you’re going to need those the duplicate sets of tags.

So that’s the deployment side.

The bigger question, the one I think you’re really getting at Ryan is you should begin using Google Analytics for as a standard of measurement as like this is the now the the system of record.

Once you can replicate everything in GA, for that matter to you in ga three.

This will take some time.

Because the configuration and the setup requires Tag Manager proficiency requires Data Studio proficiency requires organizational change behavior proficiency because you are talking about going around and interviewing stakeholders and saying, Hey, what did you use to use in ga three that was really important to you.

One of the most important things you can do if you’ve been using Google Data Studio for a while is embed a Google Analytics tracking tag in there to see just how you know how often are people using it right if people remember that it even exists.

If you’ve got a Christopher Penn 5:02 really important dashboard for marketing purposes, I would, I would suggest the one of the best practices there is have it be people’s homepage tab, right? When they open a new browser tab, boom, there’s their dashboard just pops up, that’s their starting page, they remember Oh, it exists.

certainly better than putting it up like in the lobby of an office and having it be on the big screen TV.

You know, back when we went to offices, having in someone’s browser makes it very apparent that oh, this, this is the important stuff.

So I would say, that’s when you should start using it as a standard of measurement.

Once you are getting the data.

And you feel confident that everything is set up, right.

And you’re you’ve been able to replicate all the, the custom values in the parameters and everything in ga for the use of rely on in ga three, that’s when you can say, Okay, now from this day forward, we are now at ga for shop.

You should also make sure that people go anyone on your analytics team goes through and takes the free course from Google the next generation of Google Analytics, for course, it’s it takes about an hour to get through it.

And you get a cute little award at the end.

But it helps make sure that everybody understands the differences between the systems and understands how, how they’re designed to work.

I don’t think personally, the course does a great job of explaining the measurement philosophy kind of have to figure that out yourself.

But at least it gets to the nuts and bolts of like, what used to be this is now this, for example used to be sessions and users and, and pages now all events up and down.

And you’ll see some other changes in the measurement philosophy too.

For example, channel groupings and are completely gone, Google has decided that the medium is effectively the new channel grouping.

So part of that standard of measurement.

What about when to switch over? And not is when you have really good governance around source medium control when you’re doing tagging and tracking? Because now more than ever, you need to have that be pristine? Because if people are I’ve seen ad agencies like do you know, social media is the source of Facebook as the medium like no, that’s totally backwards.

The medium is the broadest category of UTM tracking code, the source gives detail about the medium.

So a consideration for that standard of measurement is Is everyone on board with governance, about tracking codes, tags, and syntax and structure it all your partners on board with it, you know, agencies and contractors and software tools.

Because if everybody’s not on board, and you still got people just kind of doing their own thing in ga four, that means your data is going to be even more of a hot mess than it already is.

Because you now you don’t have the channel groupings.

To roll things up nicely.

You will want to for example, if you if people have come to rely on Channel groupings as a form of reporting, like you know, social and referral email, in Data Studio, you’ve got to build that yourself now to replicate it so that you have clear ideas of what you want to report on.

So these are a lot of the considerations that go into, you know, when are we ready to make the switch? replicating everything that’s important to you also means knowing what’s important to you.

So auditing your own reports would take a look at the reports you publish for your stakeholders every, you know, week, every month, every quarter, have you replicated all those things in ga for so that you can produce that report again? Because even if you yourself have made the transition to ga for and how it’s thinking chances are your stakeholders have not and they want to see something that looks more or less like an apples to apples to the previous report so that they can say hey, x went up this month.

So if you if you were reporting on sessions and now you know you’re looking at page visits, you’re gonna get a very different number.

Even though page visit is one of the the core events in ga four, so there’s a lot of not only what has become what but can we make it as close to Apples to Apples so that when people do comparisons, they know what they’re looking at.

And finally, from a process perspective, you know, making sure that you’ve got everything documented, as much as it sucks.

I don’t like it either.

But document everything in ga three accounts so that when you’re working in g4, you’ve got it all clear.

So there’s a lot to do, but that’s when you should switch when you can do all that stuff.

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Ivelina asks, “I can’t find anything in the new GA4. So what if you are not that good at reading raw data?”

You’re not alone. Many, many people are having trouble, and it’s because of the change in mindset about how Google Analytics 4 collects data. When you compare the two side by side, GA4 appears to be missing a lot more, and that’s because they’ve made the application a lot more flexible. The tradeoff is that understanding your configuration is now uniquely up to you. Be sure you’re using it for what it’s intended for: analysis, not reporting.

That’s the key mindshift to understand: Google Analytics is no longer a reporting tool. That’s Data Studio’s role.

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In today’s episode evalina asks, I can’t find anything new Google Analytics for.

So what if you are not that good at reading raw data? Yeah, so you’re not alone.

In this, many, many people are having trouble.

And it’s because of the change in mindset about how Google Analytics four collects data, and how it displays data.

Google Analytics, four has a very different philosophy about measurement and about the way it’s structured.

It is a lot more freeform.

The onus of configuration has been, in some ways put on the user.

Let me show you an example.

So let’s let’s switch over here.

So what we’re looking at here, this is Google Analytics, three data, right? This is in Google Data Studio.

And one of the things you’ll notice is that when you set up your first table, or whatever, in Google Analytics, three classic Google Analytics, you’re given all these different options for the different things that you can report on, right? There’s a lot of them, if you count through the API guide, there’s 510 different dimensions and metrics out of the box that you can report on.

And this gets to be a lot, right? There’s, there’s an awful lot of stuff here that, you know, granted, many people have spent a lot of time over the last 15 years learning.

But from a configuration perspective is not very flexible.

When you look at Google Analytics major competitor Omniture, from Adobe, it’s a lot more Adobe’s Omniture is more flexible in that it tries to get things like you know, goals to be more flexible and have more options.

And it’s really, it’s difficult to do that, in classic Google Analytics.

When you look at Google Analytics for and what comes out of the box, you’ll notice this list is a lot shorter, right? It is down to events, conversions, you know, sessions users some of the real basics.

So the question is, where did it all go? Where it all has gone, is, instead of Google saying, here’s all the things that you have available to you, Google saying, you decide what is available to you, you decide what you want, in your configuration, build it with Tag Manager, and then the things that are important to you put in here.

So for example, I put in just a value field, right, even though obviously, there’s an event value.

But I can add fields and parameters.

So in Google Tag Manager, I would go in and define if there’s something really weird or unique about the way I want to be tracking a type of conversion, maybe a parameter that isn’t included out of the box.

Now, I can go in, for example, to Google Tag Manager and just set it up and just run that conversion or that event with my thing or the thing that I care about.

whereas previously in the in the older version of Google Analytics, I couldn’t do that.

Right.

So let’s look at this example here.

If I go to newsletter, so I can edit this now at and instead of having to mess around with, you know, categories and actions and labels and all that stuff in in Google Analytics three, I can specify what parameters I want to track, is it a button, click sure I can put that in here.

Is it the day of the week? Sure, I can put that in here, too.

And so this philosophy is that Google has switched to in and Google Analytics for is that you decide what’s important to you.

You decide beyond the basics, that it sets up out of the box, if there are specific values that you want to have.

And then they appear as fields and parameters in in Data Studio in the back end, and you can report on them.

So for example, if you wanted, if you had a website where you had users who are logged in, and I was something that tag managers already set up to track, right? You could, in your goals, specify a logged in user.

Right, so it’s a lot more flexible in Google Analytics, three, you’d have to jump to all sorts of kinds of hoops just to make that work, but in Google Analytics for you and make that available parameter that would be trackable.

And then you could measure those conversions, the event of the conversions, and split it up between logged in user and not logged in user.

So that’s the trade off that Google Analytics for is trying to make is, Google has said your configuration is up to you.

Instead of trying to guess what everybody wants and making 510 values, many of which most of us aren’t going to use.

Google is said you decide what you want to use, you program it into Tag Manager and will display it.

That’s one of the reasons why they can now offer BigQuery the database to everyone who’s using Google Analytics for account because there’s a pretty good chance that most of us are not going to try and replicate all 510 of the old fields right into into this.

And so the data storage footprint is going to be a much smaller for Google Analytics for in the beginning.

As you add more customizations, as you add more stuff, it will get bigger.

Now to the question of, you can’t find anything? Yeah, there’s, again, what comes out of the box is not designed for the end user, the business end user in Google Alex for it’s designed for someone who is an actual analyst.

So if we go into my ga four view here, Google Analytics four is an actual analytics engine, in the sense that there’s a few canned reports.

So acquisition is pretty straightforward.

Where’d my stuff come from, right users traffic engagement is pretty straightforward.

What got people stick around.

So this is the pages.

And then these are all the events that you could be sending.

Again, everything is at the event level in Google Analytics for so you get the standard ones here, but you can program and more you can program in return users, right, it’s not necessarily included out of the box, you can program in logged in users, you can program in users who have been on more than five pages, highly engaged users, any event that you could think of that fits within the event model, you can program in here, and then you can report on it.

monetization is pretty straightforward.

e commerce, I think it’s actually easier now for folks than it is in in ga three and that there’s less to turn on.

It’s a lot of e commerce stuff is baked right in.

And as long as your e commerce vendor is using a sensible structure and or an approved Google structure from ga three, it’s going to show up automatically in ga four.

So that is equally pretty straightforward.

And then retention.

You know, how did you keep your users is all pretty straightforward stuff.

But again, this is an analysis engine.

So you can see at any point in the application, you can add in more stuff, you can remove stuff.

And then if you go into the analysis hub, you can actually find individual templates.

This is where some of the more traditional reports from Google Analytics, three are now showing up.

So you can start to look at specific use cases and have these essentially, pre built reports brought into ga four.

But ga four is not where you’re supposed to be doing.

Your reporting.

So as you’re doing your analysis here, you do detective work here, and then you report in Data Studio.

So the big question that you have to tackle with Google Analytics for is, if you can’t find something, is it because g4 is has removed it or because ga four is now no longer the place to be doing that.

If you’ve got a canned report that you use a lot in ga three, there’s a very good chance that the intent is that you replicate it as a dashboard in Data Studio and ga four.

And that’s where you do that you look for those canned reports, because analysis is different than reporting.

analysis is figuring out what happened.

And then Data Studio and reporting is telling somebody else what happened and letting them have a consolidated view of that so that they don’t have to repeat the in the analysis process.

And that’s going to be a big, big head shift for a lot of folks is they’re used to ga being a reporting tool.

And it’s now an analysis tool.

So that means you’ve got to get really comfortable with Data Studio and start working with data, even with ga three, your existing Google Analytics account and get used to working with Data Studio get used to building reports that fit your needs.

And it will make working with Google Analytics for a lot easier.

Because you won’t have to be trying to force this interface to do things that it no longer does.

Instead, look at your ga three account and say okay, how can I take this report that I’m very familiar with and replicate it in ga four? tall order? If you have follow up questions about leaving the comments box below, subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter.

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