Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Measuring the Effectiveness of Marketing?

    Stephen asks, “What data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing? In a dashboard published to senior management the last pages of the pdf were dedicated to marketing data. It was visitors to the website, impressions from paid media, Facebook Likes, Twitter Followers, and another data point or two that to me put an undue burden on the reader. Any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness (or at least influence) of marketing?”

    Fundamentally, it depends on marketing’s goal. Is it sales? Is it new customers? Is it revenue? This is why KPI mapping is so essential as an exercise. What’s the core outcome? Then run a multiple regression analysis to determine what other metrics correlate to that goal, then set up tests to prove causality.

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    In today’s episode Steven asks what data points speak to the effectiveness of marketing and a dashboard published a senior management here, the last pages of the PDF we’re dedicated to marketing data was visitors to the website impressions from paid media, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, etc.

    and it put an undue burden on the reader who had no clue how to do that translation any ideas on data that tells a story about the effectiveness or influence of marketing? So really good question because we see a lot of this in marketing reporting and analytics where people to sort of back the truck up, pour the data on the desk, and and make a huge mess of things.

    Avinash Kaushik calls it data puking, who got whatever you want.

    It’s not a good.

    Fundamentally, telling the story of marketing means telling the story of business impact and business impact for the most part for most organizations, most of the time.

    It’s going to be about revenue.

    It’s going to be about can we add dollars to the bottom line in some fashion either directly or as part of process marketing in many b2b organizations is all about feeding sales, feeding the sales team giving them leads.

    Glenn Glengarry Glen Ross, you know we need more leads, stuff, the leads are weak.

    And in a b2c company, it can be actually just getting customers in the door, right? It can be actual purchases, it can be people signing up for a tour, it can be people requesting a brochure, but whatever it is, there’s got to be a core business level goal that marketing is helping to serve.

    Again, most of the time customers revenue, sales, all that stuff.

    So this is why one of the first things that every marketer needs to do is to Part of the strategic planning is what’s called KPI mapping, key performance indicator mapping, that it reminded the definition of key performance indicators that if it doesn’t get you, it gets you fired or a bonus.

    It’s a KPI.

    And that’s the starting point to figure out what is the impact of marketing.

    So take the overall organization goal, the overall goal, probably revenue in some fashion.

    From there, what number or numbers directly feed revenue? Maybe it’s open deals.

    For example, in a b2b company, it might be shopping carts in an e commerce company, it might be admission requests or admission applications at a college right but there’s got to be something that leads to that, that revenue in a number and then from there, what number leads to that? And from there, what memories that new actually starting to build that story of that chain of evidence that leads to the business outcome you can About once you’ve done the basic exercise and you’ve gotten to a KPI that marketing is directly responsible for so let’s say in a higher education institution, for example, if applications are to applying to that college or university are the major goal, then what can marketing see of that? Does marketing actually see those applications? Does marketing have access to the data on the website for people downloading the applications? Maybe we’re filling them out online.

    If so, there’s your KPI.

    The next step is take all that other marketing data that you mentioned, paid media impressions, Facebook likes, Twitter followers, visitors to the website, email sent and all this stuff, and run what’s called a regression analysis to determine what is the mathematical relationship of all these metrics.

    To the KPI, right.

    So if we’re saying, I’m going to keep going with the higher education analogy, if we’re saying that applications, which really is like, sales, right? It’s a contract essentially, applications is your KPI.

    Then what of all those numbers has a mathematical relationship to applications? And if it turns out none of them, then guess what? We don’t need any of them.

    In our reporting, we just focus on the KPI.

    If, on the other hand, it turns out there is a mathematical relationship between say, Facebook engagements and likes, tweets and views on YouTube.

    And that relationship is statistically relevant.

    You now have a testing plan, right? Let’s go with YouTube views.

    If it’s a higher education institution, and there’s a views of the of the campus tour videos online, great Now what happens if you increase views? Do you see a corresponding increase in applications if you’ve, if you’ve established this correlation, you now have to prove the causation through testing.

    And then once you’ve done that, and you’ve proven that there is a relationship and the relationship is causal in nature, then fundamentally what you end up with is a KPI.

    And one, two, maybe three metrics that have the strongest relationship that you’ve proven to that and that’s the number that you tell in the story.

    That’s the number those are the numbers that go in your dashboard.

    Because you know that they they translate to your KPI and your KPI translates to business impact.

    Maybe as email subscribers, maybe it’s email, open rate.

    You’ve got all this data.

    But which of it matters.

    That’s how you build a story.

    Because a story is fundamentally nothing more than in many cases, sort of a beginning, middle and end recounting of what happened in a way that has a logical coherence to it.

    And it’s it was a very exciting story.

    But that’s a story.

    And so if you can sequence out those numbers and discard all the ones that don’t contribute to that story that are not relevant to that story, you will be able to have a, if not compelling, at least a a meaningful and useful story about the effectiveness of marketing, but requires you to gather all that data and do that analysis.

    That’s the way that I would approach any situation where you’ve got somebody who’s putting data on your desk, and you want to make sense of it.

    Do the KPI mapping, do the regression analysis, do this testing to prove it and then remove and went out everything that doesn’t belong.

    There is You don’t have the data, then you have to do your your, your best with what you’ve got, right? So if you only have certain data points, you can repeat the exercises as much as you can.

    If you don’t have control over the data itself, like if you don’t work in marketing, and you’re just curious, then you got to collaborate, got to work with a team that is responsible for the data and responsible for making the data happen in order to be able to, to really create a good story.

    So it’s a good question.

    It sounds easy.

    It’s It’s simple.

    It’s not easy.

    I think that’s an important point.

    It’s, it’s very simple to do.

    It’s not easy to do.

    It will take a lot of time, it will take a lot of effort.

    But once you do it, and you get good at it, you get really good at boiling down all the data.

    That’s only the stuff that matters, then focusing your efforts on that.

    And that’s the point of something like an exercise like this not only to be able to tell the story better, but then to focus your efforts in such a way You’re expanding your resources on things that really matter.

    So really good question, important question.

    I hope that this was helpful.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Best Practices for Consistent Reporting?

    Talesa asks, “What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, quarterly, yearly, even daily?”

    Start with this simple question: what do you need to make decisions on at those frequencies? What decisions do you need to make daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and yearly? That guides what data you need to look at – and then I recommend building Google Data Studio dashboards to pull out and highlight those data points, and then schedule regular emails from Data Studio.

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    In today’s episode to Lisa asks, What tips do you have on Google Analytics best practices for consistent reporting? What do you look at monthly, daily, yearly, even? What monthly, daily, quarterly, yearly, etc? Start with a simple question, what decisions do you need to make at those frequencies? Right? What decisions do you need to make every day, every week, every month, every quarter every year? chances are there’s some pretty typical data points you need for things like setting budgets, making calendars, etc.

    Those decisions should then drive what reporting you’re looking at.

    One of the critical mistakes people make with tools like Google Analytics is they just dive in, start clicking around, find a bunch of stuff and consume the data consume the analytics, but they don’t.

    They don’t have any reason for doing other than to look around accepted periods of time when they got to do like a quarterly reporting or something like a quarterly board reviews, etc.

    and not having a very clear purpose and function.

    Not having a very clear idea of what you want to use the data for means that it tends to become very onerous.

    And Google Analytics is a fantastic application.

    I love it.

    It is the backbone of a lot of the work that we do at Trust Insights.

    But it’s a lot of information.

    And so the first thing you need to do is figure out what exact information you need from it.

    And then I would say, don’t use Google Analytics.

    Be like, Okay, wait, you just said you loved belt.

    Don’t use it for reporting.

    Google Analytics is a great tool for analysis.

    Hence, the name is a great tool for data collection.

    It is not a great tool for reporting.

    The tool you want to look at for reporting is Google Data Studio, which is a dashboarding tool that plugs into Google Analytics natively.

    allows you to extract just the pieces and bits that you need in order to make decisions and put them on dashboards.

    So, based on the decisions you need to make, like I need to make monthly reports on these topics, or I need to make decisions about my SEO program for the next month, or I need to make a budgeting decision on advertising.

    Every week.

    Make write out a list, maybe start a spreadsheet or a Word document or something like that.

    Have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, yearly.

    Make a list of what questions you need to answer or what decisions you need to make.

    And then identify the key data points within Google Analytics that answer those questions.

    If you’re saying like I need to judge my, my, my ad effectiveness for display ads, okay, great.

    You need to get data about display advertisement performance from Google Analytics and you can then make a list up like the channel grouping that you want Or the source, medium, etc.

    and then build a Data Studio dashboard for each of those key questions.

    So you might have a daily dashboard for daily questions you need to answer, weekly dashboard monthly dashboard quarterly dashboard yearly dashboard.

    And the reason to do this is you want those dashboards to be distilled down to the data points you need to make decisions on, and then have them be pre built so that when it comes time to make that decision, you know, like, I gotta, you know, take two hours to go trawling through Google Analytics and get the data points from everywhere, don’t just go to the dashboard that you made, put the work in up front to get the great reporting structure, and then just go in and grab the information that you need to make those decisions.

    I also recommend with Data Studio, you can schedule it to email you.

    And this obviously lacks the internet interactivity of the real dashboard.

    But more than anything, it’s just a good way to remember yourself to actually look at those dashboards.

    If you know that you have a quarterly board review coming up at the end of every quarter, that a week before have Data Studio drop, essentially an email reminder in your inbox saying, Hey, here’s the data.

    And again, that will help you help reduce those last minute crunches when it comes to dealing with reporting asks, right because the you built the dashboard, the data is there.

    And you can, you can take the time then to do your analysis, to derive your insights from it rather than just copying and pasting and, and ignoring the data.

    That’s probably the most impactful thing you can do use tools like Google Analytics and Google Data Studio to get the data together.

    And then the time that you would have spent clicking around and taking screenshots and Google Analytics and stuff, it is time you can now spend doing actual analysis to say hey, These are the trends we see.

    And here’s what this means.

    And here’s how it impacts the business.

    Here’s the decisions that either we’re going to make, or the decisions we need approvals on TrustInsights.ai One of the things we have is called the st reporting framework, which is just a five part structure about how all reports should start.

    And then you customize it customize, which is summary of the stakeholder has two minutes, they should read that the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happen, the next steps as to what decisions you need made, and then the timeline, the timeline of those decisions.

    And by focusing down into that very clear framework, you can eliminate a lot of fluff that goes into reports.

    And the reports purpose is clear.

    Either you’re giving someone a report to to obtain a decision or you’re presenting a decision and waiting for them to effectively negated override it either way By being that focused in your reporting, it’s very clear what it is that the reports purposes.

    And again, I can’t emphasize enough, have those dashboards in place so that you don’t need to run the reports.

    They’re just pulling data all the time.

    Anytime somebody opens the thing up, that will save you enormous amounts of time I was doing some client work the other day, and I put on my agenda of, you know, send report monthly reporting to this client for some of their SEO stuff.

    And I’m like, I could just build a Data Studio dashboard.

    And then every month, send, have it automated, send them a reminder, like, Hey, your reports ready.

    There’s no extra work for building the report every month.

    Now I can invest my time for that client, something more valuable to them, which is doing the analysis of it, and giving them recommendations or suggestions or asking them for decisions like hey, I noticed this thing slipped here.

    How do you want to optimize that page? Or I noticed this page is doing really well.

    Maybe you should add it to add some paid dollars behind it to boost it.

    That’s the that’s the value that you bring as an analyst or as a data scientist.

    It’s not regurgitating data.

    It is presenting your interpretation of the data, and the ways you think it will help the business grow.

    So use the tools, use the schedulers, save time, and then and then use the saves time to add additional value that the report alone can convey.

    That would be my best recommendations for Google Analytics reporting.

    Great question.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Marketing Data Science Fixes Analytics Tools?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Marketing Data Science Fixes Analytics Tools?

    Monina asks, “Where do our current analytics tools lack, and how could a data scientist help?”

    If we think about what we expect of our tools, we ask them to tell us what happened, why, and what we should do about it. Almost every analytics tool only does the first part. A data scientist has to help complete the rest of the hierarchy of analytics – descriptive, diagnostic, predictive, prescriptive, and proactive.

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    In today’s episode menina asks, Where do our current analytics tools lack? And how could a data scientist help? This is an excellent question because it relies on a bit of understanding of what analytics is, and what we are and are not getting.

    So there’s a hierarchy to analytics, there’s a structure to it that indicates sort of what we want to have happen.

    That’s called the hierarchy of analytics on surprisingly, let’s actually bring it up here.

    So the lower portions of the left side of from Gartner incorporated and then the right side of the top or additions I made, the hierarchy of analytics begins at the bottom, you have descriptive analytics answering the question of what happened, and this is exactly what every single analytics tool does today.

    Go to Google Analytics, Facebook, anywhere you go.

    You In digital marketing, you’re going to get a data dump of what happened.

    What you don’t get is the rest of the hierarchy, right? You don’t get diagnostic analytics Why Did something happen? website traffic was up 40% yesterday, why you have to go hunt for it the tool is not going to tell you why something happened.

    And in some cases, you may not be able to even know why.

    There are tons of different marketing data points where you need qualitative research to essentially asks ask someone asked a customer, why did you do that thing? And only then will you start to answer those white to happen current analytics tools.

    Can’t do that.

    Of course, predictive analytics third on hierarchy if you have a data point, what’s going to happen next.

    This is for things like time series forecasting, what’s going to be the the trend for our topic or our term or our email numbers in the next six to 12 months after You have prescriptive analytics, what should we do about it? What? What’s the logical next step to take? And this is, remember, in data science, you have those four key skill areas, business skills, scientific skills, technical skills and mathematical skills.

    This is where those business skills come into play, where you need to have a sense of what the business is doing in order to be able to offer that prescription like here’s what we should do.

    Now we know what we know.

    We know why we know what’s going to happen next, here’s what we should do.

    And finally, where really it’s the almost nothing in the market, except for custom built solutions.

    And maybe the biggest tech companies is proactive analytics, which is starting to use machine learning artificial intelligence to essentially say, Okay, what can we get this tool to do for us? What can we take our hands off the wheel and let you know self driving marketing If you will happen and it just doesn’t there’s there isn’t that a lot of vendors will say there is a lot of vendors will promise you the moon.

    But realistically, there is no such thing as self driving marketing.

    And so if we think about what we asked them our tools, what we expect of our tools, we are expecting, at the very least the first three rungs on the ladder and we’re only getting the lowest rung.

    But what happened and so that’s where a data scientist and data science team will help us fix, fix, but help us augment what our analytics tools are capable of doing.

    There’s so much in the data that, frankly, is very difficult to parse out.

    Simple example if if you’re doing regression analysis where you want to figure out okay, I have all these different data points, time on site bounce rate, traffic from Facebook traffic from email, thanks.

    And I have an outcome, like goal completions on my website.

    One of all of this data actually matters, what has a relationship to this outcome that I could test.

    And if you have all these different data points, again, how looks tools today can’t do that, even though mathematically, it’s actually not that hard to do.

    It is very computationally intensive.

    And it requires some experience interpreting the results.

    So a data scientists in that case would take all that data out of Google Analytics or wherever, run it through a regression model of some kind, everything from straight, simple linear regression to gradient descent gradient, boosting extreme gradient boosting, you name it, there’s so many different techniques to use.

    The data scientist look at the data, look at the the distributions and things make a decision about which method to choose, maybe try a few of them and come to a conclusion.

    Okay, here is the method we’re going to use is the the mathematical technique, we’re going to use the code, run it and say now, we have this outcome, we care about conversions.

    And we have these 500 data points in Google Analytics, here, the three in combination that have a relationship to the outcome that we care about.

    And now we can start the science part of Okay, now let’s set up a hypothesis that these three matter most to conversion, and start running tests.

    Okay, if we increase, you know, time on site by 10%, we just see a 10% increase in conversion.

    Good hypothesis right can be provably true or false.

    We then go and build some test, run some tests, optimize the site, using, you know, Google Optimize, or whatever, to focus on a goal of increased time on site, and then look at our conversions and see, did we see a proportional increase in time on site that was matched Is the proportional increase in conversions? If so, our hypothesis is true, if not, our hypothesis is false.

    And that’s where a data scientist can really take these analytics and turn them into meaningful results that guide our business.

    Now, as we’ve talked about in this series of questions, it’s not going to be cheap.

    And it’s not going to be fast.

    Because this is science.

    This is experimentation.

    This is testing as not something you can just, you know, snap your fingers or buy a piece of software and do the most important value add that a data scientist offers, in addition to just being able to do the thing is to look at the data and tell you where it’s going to go wrong or tell you that the data is just not good enough to reach the conclusion that you want to reach.

    So again, that’s where data scientists can help fill in the gaps for these these current analytics tools lack, they just can’t get there yet.

    Will they get there someday? Maybe would depend on how accessible the results are to an end user.

    Because a company like Google is not going to make these crazy additions to Google Analytics for the benefit of data scientists only they need it to benefit everybody.

    And they have the API and the programming interface, so that a skilled data scientist, a skilled data science team can extract the data for themselves and do those computations without them needing to add and clutter up the interface for end users.

    So really good question, because there’s a ton that data scientists can do in these other rungs of the ladder that today’s tools can’t do and that’s okay.

    doesn’t need to be in there.

    If you have follow up questions to this topic, please leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Specific Link Clicks in Google Analytics?

    Will asks, “I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are one of my basic product landing pages. The problem I’m trying to solve: boss says, “I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on that other page onto this page.”

    There are three answers here. First, Behavior Flow will give you usable insights into what someone’s next steps are, with the caveat that there can only be one destination link on the source page. Second, Google Tag Manager special events will allow you to fire specific events on specific clicks or interface elements. Third, Google Optimize will answer your boss’ question of what’s working by setting up testing scenarios.

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    In today’s episode we’ll asks, I’m searching for something that tells me what people click on when they are on one of my basic product landing page is the problem I’m trying to solve.

    boss says, I bet this particular button gets a lot of clicks, which means we need to move some of the content on the other page on this page.

    And you want to find out for us what’s really working.

    So there’s a couple of different ways to do this.

    In Google Analytics, the easiest way would be to use behavior flow.

    In fact, let’s go ahead and switch this over.

    So in the behavior section of Google Analytics, there’s overview there’s behavior flow, behavior flow shows you the page they start on and then sort of the the pathing.

    They take map, there’s a specific page you want, click on that little gear icon here.

    And then add a match type item.

    So the match type contains For example, let’s do my speaking my public Speaking, eight people come in on that page.

    And then actually all eight leave this is for last seven days.

    So this tells me what people have gone to next.

    Now, this is contingent on a couple things.

    One, there’s only one link from your landing page to whatever the next pages are.

    So if there was page A, B, and C, you had them, you want to know what’s going to get the click, if there’s five links to page be on page eight, this is not going to tell you that.

    To fix that, you’d have to go into Google Tag Manager and specify other specific buttons that you can put a tracking tag on to fire an event.

    And that event would then show up in Google Analytics you could do and set that up under events to track what events those things are.

    They can track those as as flows pages, things like that.

    Let’s see we’ve got one here we can look at YouTube.

    Entry content, medium button specific buttons you can see I’ve got events set up in Google Tag Manager that then track what it is that people are doing on my website.

    And these have a flow as well.

    So if you know, there’s a specific sequence of a type of clicks that you want, you can, you can track those clicks.

    However, this is a very manual process.

    This is okay for answering a specific question about one interface element.

    But if you’re trying to figure out what’s best, what works best, or what combination of changes work best, this is not the way to go.

    Because this is just going to give you a headache.

    And this doesn’t tell you anything really about the effectiveness of that page.

    What you really want to be looking at is Google Optimize.

    So you go to optimize google.

    com.

    It’s part of the Google Marketing Platform, it’s free of charge, so it should be easy for you to get started.

    And you can see here, there are different tests you can run to set up a B testing on Different interface elements.

    And sometimes you’ll get a winner sometimes to say no clearly was found.

    And you’ll get nice statistics.

    But what makes this good is that it’s tied to a specific goal, not just did somebody click on something, but your Google Analytics goals, you can specify, I want to know, does this change cause someone to convert better, right? conversion rate optimization.

    Google Optimize is the best tool for this overall scenario, which is your boss is saying, hey, there’s some stuff here that I think will work better over here.

    This is the way to go.

    So three different answers for tracking specific link links.

    Number one behavior flow.

    If you know there’s only one link on the page that goes where you want number two events in Google Tag Manager tracking link clicks, and three, the best scenario here, Google Optimize, Google optimizes free by the way, there’s, there’s a paid version, but the free version will definitely do easily.

    exactly what it is that you’re trying to do here.

    And it’s the best choice for testing.

    A because it’s automated, lets you set up testing parameters and be it statistically valid, which I think is an important part.

    If you don’t have that statistical validity, then yeah, you can say this gets more clicks, but does it result in the net impact that you’re looking for? So check those three things out.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Proving the ROI of Analytics and Data Science?

    You Ask, I Answer: Proving the ROI of Analytics and Data Science?

    Gautam asks, “What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science?”

    Proving ROI of analytics is one of the thorniest problems you’ll run into in marketing data science. The reason for the difficulty is that analytics is one degree removed from everything; analytics itself never makes a company any money – only the actions you take based on the data. Recall that ROI is (earned – spent)/spent – proving the ROI of the earned part is the difficult part. Watch the video for three different models.

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    In today’s episode, Gautam asks, What is your recommendation for proving the ROI of analytics and marketing data science.

    So proving the ROI of analytics of data science of anything data related is going to be one of the thorniest problems you run into in marketing data science.

    And the reason for this is think about what ROI is.

    It’s a very straightforward mathematical formula.

    It is earned minus spent the essentially sort of the the net earnings, right, divided by what you spent.

    That’s ROI.

    Now, here’s why this is tricky.

    Analytics, data science, big data, whatever you want to call it.

    is one step removed from the things that actually generate profit, the things actually generate revenue, right? When you use Google Analytics, Google Analytics never ever generates you money.

    Right? Your website generates you money in Google Analytics measures that when you are doing a B testing using basic data science, the testing doesn’t generate money.

    It’s the result that you get the knowledge that you then make a decision on.

    Remember, data without a decision is a distraction.

    But that means that essentially analytics and data science if you think about these things like tools to fill their measurements of tools, so there they are technically tools but they are measurements of tools.

    It’s like the frying pan is what you cook with and the thermometer that you use a little laser thermometer measures the frying pan right But the laser the thermometer doesn’t cook the food, the frying pans, one cooking the food.

    So it’s very difficult to understand the value of the thermometer as a discrete dollar amount, you understand the value intuitively right? If you if you’re trying to get the frying pan to a certain temperature and you don’t want to burn the oil is at the pan it says it’s, you know, 380 degrees, great.

    Let’s go ahead and start cooking or it’s 500 degrees in it too hot turn down the heat, otherwise, we will burn the oil and, you know, make a terrible tasting dish.

    What’s the ROI of that thermometer? Well, it’s not ruining the dish, or it’s making the dish better.

    But how do you quantify that right? Because again, is one order removed.

    So in a situation like this, you are measuring the measurement of the actions you’ve taken based on data.

    And that’s essentially the definition of how you measure the ROI of analytics and data science.

    So the spent part is easy, you know Know what you spend on analytics in terms of hard dollars, you know what you spend on analytics in terms of labor and soft dollars, that’s your spent part.

    That’s pretty straightforward.

    The earned part is the hard part.

    So there’s three different ways to tackle the Earned part.

    And they’re in decreasing order of usefulness, but also tactically decreasing order of complexity.

    The most accurate and the most complex way to to measure the ROI is when you make a decision, like, should we increase our decrease our Facebook spend, should we run ads on YouTube? You take you you create one version and a B test saying Okay, let’s use data to inform this decision.

    And the B test is let’s just wing it, right? Let’s just do what we’ve always done.

    And you carefully document and you run these campaigns and parallel one campaign with the best analytics.

    You’ve got The other campaign with just kind of winging it and hoping it all works out.

    And you measure the difference and you do this for many, many different campaigns.

    Now this requires extremely good data governance and marketing governance to be able to carefully document both scenarios, and keep them separate and distinct in a laboratory conditions to the best of the abilities you can’t.

    And you do this for all any kind of campaign we have the ability to do a B testing for some channels.

    This is impossible to do, right you you cannot really organic search as a whole for SEO as a whole.

    You cannot just store Well, I guess I guess you could have optimize a website, but that’s probably detrimental to the overall nature of the company, right.

    The second way is to AB test different groups and teams.

    And this works if you have a larger company and larger teams, you have one team that uses the best analytics practices.

    The other team that doesn’t, at most large companies, you can easily find a team that does does not use data to make decisions.

    And over time you measure each team’s performance.

    You know, if you have two e commerce teams, maybe for slightly different business lines, one uses analytics one doesn’t, you can relatively easily differentiate the two smaller companies, that’s not going to really work out very well.

    The third and least good way to measure that impact of analytics is period over period comparison.

    So if you are, say, a company that is not especially data driven, and you go ahead and implement analytics, and data science and machine learning, and all these fancy things, you make an annotation in your analytics, Google Analytics, your CRM, whatever, saying on this date, we did this on this date, we did this and you and you start to really know when you’ve Become a data driven company.

    We’ve made that commitment.

    And then you start doing period over period comparisons on, you know, July of 2020.

    We were a data driven marketing team July of 2019.

    And we were not how does how do things compare? The reason this is the least good method is because there is a tremendous amount of potential interference.

    market changes, if you’re running on campaigns, advertising changes.

    Certainly we all know, Facebook’s algorithm could have changed dramatically, then.

    And so it’s very difficult to come up with a clear case that analytics was the reason for all of the changes that happened when there’s so much interference.

    So again, the A B testing of decisions with careful documentation is the best choice.

    You can do the teams if you have the capability and then period over period comparison, if you just have nothing else, it’s not going to be great.

    So that’s the the methodology for proving the ROI of analytics and data science.

    The funny part You’re actually using data science to prove the value of data science, right? Is the scientific experimentation, a hypothesis that analytics has an ROI and then creating the testing conditions to do that? So Good question.

    complicated question.

    It can be a very frustrating question.

    So I’m just remember that too, it’s going to be, it’s going to be frustrating.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Display Ads?

    You Ask, I Answer: Tracking Display Ads?

    Chelsea asks, “How do you organize and track which display ads you’re running and where?”

    You should be keeping track of all ads with Google Analytics UTM tracking codes, governed in a Google Sheet, measured in Google Data Studio. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode Chelsea asks, How do you organize and track which display ads you’re running? And where? Well, the answer to that Google Analytics, specifically, Google Analytics UTM tracking codes are the best practice for tracking all kinds of ads, not just display ads.

    There’s five kinds of UTM tracking codes, there’s medium, which is what is the way in which this case that we display, there is source which is typically where you put the vendor, whether it’s a company like StackAdapt, or basis, or Google Display Network, that the source and then you have three more tags campaign content and keyword campaign is the logical campaign cluster that an ad group blogs and so if you’re doing say, January coffee shop, as that would be the campaign name that would go there.

    You would that further content, describe what it is in the ad that you’re showing.

    And then keyword if you’re doing any kind of sem add the keyword be a literal keyword of ad, if you’re not doing an SEM ad, then it would be another additional descriptive that could help you differentiate the content.

    The reason you do it this way is so that you can not only have a distinctive taxonomy for all your different advertising, but then you can actually see its impact inside Google Analytics and run proper attribution analysis.

    So how do you keep track of all that? Well, there’s a couple different ways you can do it.

    If you do it just with the campaign content, keyword tags, you’ll see that in Google Analytics under some of the campaign acquisition source campaigns.

    However, if you’re trying to keep it all straight in advance of launching campaign, simplest thing to do is put together a spreadsheet I put together a Google Sheet So it’s collaborative and multiple people can work on it, and have each of those columns filled out.

    So you can have medium source campaign content keyword.

    Once you’ve done that, and you’ve got all that stuff inside of a spreadsheet, then it is relatively trivial to keep track of that within Google Analytics to see which campaigns which content which vendors are performing the best, right, because remember, you’re using the vendor name is that UTM source, you can see right inside most of the standard views inside of Google Analytics, you can switch to source medium, and see which source is giving you the highest amount of performance.

    That’s also why it’s less advisable to use a some kind of custom tracking codes just use what’s built into Google Analytics.

    It’s designed for exactly this purpose.

    So medium is display.

    And be sure to differentiate to if you are working with different vendors that have different types of advertising.

    If you’re doing sem, it should be either CPC or PPC.

    Those are the built in channel definitions, we’ve been display display.

    If you’re doing native, you can put native in for the medium type, but then you’re going to need to declare it in the default channel groupings are will get tracked as other and that’s a really bad sources the vendor campaign is the campaign content is the descriptor of the ad itself.

    This is by the way, good is very, very useful if you’re doing you know many variations if you have like 50 graphics that you’re doing massive testing on that UTM content is the great The best way to differentiate it and the key word either for an additional descriptor or the actual keywords.

    One of the best things you can do to keep trying rack of the performance of these things is actually don’t try and do it in Google Analytics itself.

    Do it in Google Data Studio, Google Data Studio is a lot more flexible about bringing in and manipulating the different fields.

    And with either native connectors or the different third party community connectors, you can connect to many different ads systems directly.

    So that you can see your their data, and then put it side by side with what Google Analytics sees.

    And that way you can make sure a that you’re tracking is right, because if the ad system says you got a million clicks, and Google Analytics says you got five, that didn’t work out so well.

    And second, you can obviously get a holistic picture of everything that’s going on.

    So Google Data Studio would be the preferred reporting mechanism to make sure that the ads are delivering some kind of performance, but for the actual governance, do that in Google Sheets.

    Now there are more advanced illusions if you want to get really fancy, there’s a great piece of software called work front that does marketing operations management, it is substantially more expensive than a spreadsheet.

    But it does have things like governance and approval cycles.

    If that’s something that your shop needs to have in place, I would say 95% of the time, spreadsheets a good place to start and then once you find it becomes unwieldy then start looking at marketing operations management software, but until then, keep it simple.

    So, good question.

    If you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Social Media War Room Displays?

    You Ask, I Answer: Social Media War Room Displays?

    Martha asks, “What software and what content should we put on our displays in our social media war room/command center?”

    An interesting question. The answer is, it depends on what decisions you need to make. War rooms are very often just for appearance, and they tend to be an expensive waste of money unless you’re making real-time decisions and need visibility across many different channels in order to intercept problems.

    Two partners I recommend – FTC disclosure, my company, Trust Insights, is a partner of both and earns a small referral fee if you do business with them through us:

    • Talkwalker, for great visualizations and rollups
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    In today’s episode Martha asks, What software and what content should we put on our displays? And our social media War Room slash command center? An interesting question and the answer is it depends really on what decisions you need to make remember dashboards without decisions are decorations, right? And you can buy all sorts of useful you know, decorations like art if you want to just have something on the walls, social media war rooms and social media command centers in the past have been very often for appearances sake, you put one in to show off to your senior executives to your board to your customers.

    Look, we’ve got this great thing What the hell, all these screens and it looks like something right out of the movies? Well, of course we also know that the movies are fictional but an awful lot of people like The way they look, it’s a very expensive use of money.

    War rooms and command centers are useful for real time decisions.

    So if you are running, say a big event, and you need to make a decision in real time, and you need to see a lot of screen real estate, you know multiple TVs showing multiple screens.

    Though that’s a valid use of command center, you’re doing something really big that you’re just you couldn’t do on just one single monitor or even a couple of displays, you need eight or 12 displays just to get to have the relevant information in front of you.

    Now in terms of what you should be displaying, there’s three categories of information.

    Number one, you should be displaying anomalies.

    So any good social media management software is going to collect data and present to you in some fashion the better packages of software are going to Show you anomalies, if you normally get, you know, five likes on a post in the first hour, and you get 10 or 15 or 20 something as a multiple change into what’s normally there.

    That’s an anomaly.

    So, anomaly at speed of engagement is something that you want to have in a command center so that you can see there’s something going on with that post and we don’t know why.

    Let’s keep an eye on that.

    And you should then be able to take that post and monitor that specifically in the responses to that you want to monitor content types are people there sudden spike or anomaly in the responses to you, right? people responding with videos, if so, you should probably watch those videos and see if you know there’s some kind of known problem that people are sending you video evidence of.

    And the third anomaly to watch the sentiment.

    Even automated sentiment, which is here percent accurate, it’s not great.

    And that’s a whole different topic.

    But even that can detect like, hey, something’s taken a sudden sharp down turn a sudden sharp turn to the negative, or sudden sharp turn to the positive you want to be able to see that you want and you want the system to identify.

    This is an anomaly.

    This something is unusual, that stands out from all the other statistical data that you’re collecting about the different social media channels you’re on.

    Second thing you’re going to want to display art trends and trends are best generally displayed is like liner bar graphs, and you want to be able to see in very short intervals, what’s happening.

    So your software should be pulling your channels at anywhere from 30 seconds to one minute to five minute intervals, depending on on how fast you need to make a decision.

    And being able to see those trends over time rolling averages of engagement of responses, things like that, again, you’re looking for changes out of the norm.

    Something that’s happening that like, That’s weird.

    And it’s one of those things that you should be able to see and understand through good color coding, like, yeah, something’s up there.

    The third thing to have on any dashboard, particularly a command center are your KPIs.

    And remember, KPIs and number four, which you are either promoted or fired.

    And that should probably be on its own screen, just sort of a scorecard of what’s happening so that you can see, okay, these are the things that have been happening, and the things that we need to pay attention to.

    So you probably need at least three different screens, to display anomalies, trends and KPIs.

    And then, more important is you need to have procedures in place when an anomaly occurs.

    What do you do what is the playbook, they should literally be a binder sitting out on a desk somewhere that everyone has been trained on it says when this happens do this when this happens do this when somebody shows sends us a video of a person spinning on load employees food sent, you know, this is the policy and procedure manual for handling that.

    A command center is only as good as the commands you execute.

    So you need to be able to have those written out in advance, ready to go.

    And the command center screens shouldn’t require a whole lot of reading the software that use whatever software you use should be using color coding should be have very obvious displays, so that if you’re standing across the room, you look like hmm, there’s all of our social posts and their normal code, but there’s five of them that are red.

    Okay, let’s go take a look at the five red ones.

    Right.

    That’s the kind of thing that at a glance, you should be able to see something’s up.

    It is no different than if you look for example, at how an airplane cockpit is designed.

    There’s not a lot of access, right? Even though it’s complicated.

    There’s not a lot of excess in an airplane.

    cockpit.

    There are everything there is essential and therefore a reason and a well designed dashboard in a cockpit when a vehicle should have the most important things placed in front and center and obvious alarms when something is not right.

    So give that some thought when you’re thinking about a command center, you’re designing one.

    Now whose software should you use, there’s any number of vendors out there that do excellent dashboards.

    To that we recommend that my company is partners with so FTC disclosure.

    If you buy from either of them through us you we get some small financial benefit.

    Number one on the I would say is price Talkwalker.

    So you want to check them out for their dashboards and widgets.

    And then if you want really, really good real time, like we be 2024 Olympics, and you absolutely need to know within seconds that something is up, you want to check out Zignal Labs those would be the two that I would recommend the so Talkwalker for really good roll up summaries, and like really nice lobby displays.

    And then if you have to have an actual command center, because and you need 62nd response times or less, take a look at Zignal Labs, those would be the two that I would recommend.

    Good question.

    Be clear on what you’re going to do in the command center be absolutely clear how you’re going to use it and make sure that the expense you go to is going to have a positive return on investment for that expense because they are expensive, and very often people have them for the wrong reasons.

    So as always, please leave your comments below.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: What Belongs in a Social Media Audit?

    You Ask, I Answer: What Belongs in a Social Media Audit?

    Summer asks, “What do you include in a social media audit for a client?”

    An excellent question. The first and most important thing is: did social media contribute any business impact? Make that determination first – it may save you a lot of time if social media has no business impact, because the rest of the audit is moot. Watch the video for full details.

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    In today’s episode summer asks, What do you include in a social media audit for a client? This is an excellent question because there are some tips and tricks to help you do this much more easily.

    And the number one thing you have to do before you do anything else before you start planning any data polls or charts or visualizations is to understand whether or not social media had any business impact.

    You have to make that determination First, if social media had no business impact, guess what? You don’t need to do the rest of the audit because it doesn’t matter.

    If it does have business impact, then you want to drill down and understand what are what in specific within social media is having impact.

    Now there’s three different ways to make this determination.

    The first and the probably the simplest for most people is going to be within Google Analytics, if you go into Google Analytics, you go to conversions go to multi channel funnels go to assisted conversions.

    If your channel groupings your default channel groupings are set up properly, this will be an accurate report that will tell you the impact of social media.

    That said, most of the time, most people’s Google Analytics are not set up correctly.

    For default channel groupings a lot of the time social media gets lumped into referral rather than social because of the nature of the way so people do the tagging and the tools that they use.

    And the very, very non standard way people tend to tag their social media links with the UTM tracking codes will put all sorts of random stuff in those fields, and not use the approved conventions by Google to tell Google Analytics Hey, this is social traffic.

    Quick tip on that front, your UTM medium code if you’re doing social media should be social Keep it simple, keep it social, for any UTM tracking codes on social media and then things will be attributed properly within the default channel groupings.

    So, let’s take a look here.

    This is my website.

    This is all of 2019 looking back at the year, and we see for assisted conversions last touch conversions last click value.

    Let’s sort my last click value first just to see what impacts social had social responsible for me for 460 of last touch conversion and then additional45 of assisted conversions.

    So this to me says, Okay, I think I have some value here and social media.

    Let’s switch this to source medium, just to see just to get a sense of what those things might be.

    And we see here this is important look, T dot CEO, Twitter links are coming in as referrals.

    That’s not set up in here correctly for attributing t that co links This is something that by fixing my fix, we see 226 came from Twitter.

    Okay, so in my social media audit, I should probably spend a decent amount of time on Twitter if I’m getting good economic value from that.

    So number five source, ignore direct non because direct non means Google doesn’t know what happened there.

    LinkedIn73 and 60 worth of revenue there.

    Now this is for my e commerce side.

    And let’s see.

    Yeah, so that’s, that’s it for the top 10 sources here.

    So should my social media audit contain extensive charts and graphs about Facebook? No, there’s no Facebook here.

    Facebook is completely absent from the top 10 revenue generating sources.

    And we can see with about7,000 worth, if I actually flip this to pie chart mode here, we can see that everything else in the other outside of the top 10 is Only 10% of all revenue.

    So by far, we have organic search, is it responsible for the lion’s share here, followed by my email newsletter, and then then Twitter is my number three, source for assisted conversions, we flip this to last conversions value.

    Here we have Google organic direct, company website, email newsletter, Twitter number five.

    So this is what, when you do a social media audit, this is what the starting point is to say this is the economic value, the business impact.

    And even if you don’t have ecommerce setup, or you’re not an e commerce company, you could still use things like the total number of conversions either direct or last touch to illustrate, yes, social media is having business impact.

    Now if you want to get more advanced, you have to start to leave Google Analytics behind and use more sophisticated tracking tools.

    This is an example of one using a machine learning technique called Markov chains, which is sort of like, imagine basketball players playing basketball.

    There’s always that person who scores the basket.

    But you got to check out the passing game with the people who are around that person to get the ball to that person so that they can score the baskets.

    That’s sort of what this chart looks at it, it looks at who scores the most baskets, but then also looks at how to the different channels interact with each other in terms of placement.

    Here again, we see Twitter about 5% of conversions impact, in line with what we saw inside of Google Analytics, but we can see the Twitter and sort of at the end of the engagement, customer journey, we see actually no, I’m sorry, it’s it’s within the conversion.

    So really the last touch channel so it was email.

    So that tells me from a social media audit perspective, I should be looking at my messaging on Twitter, to validate that is the language I’m using is the Sort of the closing language rather than introductory line of people apparently know who I am on Twitter, because they’re buying stuff from it.

    Whereas organic search when when people come to my website organic search, I would want to check the messaging of the top searched pages to make sure this introductory stuff so that they’ll Oh, this is who this person is.

    And again, we see Facebook is in their tiny little dots and things.

    So from the perspective of what to include, I would start with that strong foundation of this is the business impact of any given social media channel and then build upwards from that say, okay, so if we know Twitter’s the thing when it comes to social media, what things on Twitter work best, do more of those what things on Twitter didn’t work? And then do comparative analysis to say okay, what do our competitors doing on Twitter? what’s working well for them? And should we do similar ideas as those competitors in order to try Gator audiences more.

    So that’s what I think belongs in a social media audit.

    Keep your audits light.

    I know and I’m guilty of this, as well, of throwing everything in the kitchen sink in an audit.

    But at the end of the day, like any form of analysis, you want people to make decisions.

    What decisions are you looking for somebody to make? I’m doing an audit of my own website here.

    The decision is what social networks right not spend time on Facebook, right, I should clearly not be spending any time on unpaid Facebook because it’s just not delivering any results.

    I should be spending to the extent that I can time on Twitter and then maybe experimenting on some some smaller platforms like Reddit, etc, to see if I can get some juice out of those.

    But any audit should be very lightweight, to keep it to the decisions that you want somebody to make in order to grow to create that growth.

    The the general format I recommend for any kind of report is strategy, tactics, execution, you know, sort of next steps and then timeline.

    Call it st strategy or summary analytics insights, next steps timeline.

    And that’s sort of what is goes in a really good audit is the quick summary, the analysis of what happened, the insights as to why those things happened.

    Why is Twitter better than Facebook? What are the next steps do more Twitter? And then what’s the timeframe? Do more Twitter right now and just stop messing around with Facebook? Stop trying to make Facebook work.

    It’s just it’s just not that way.

    you summarize for people this is what it is that you need to do.

    And that’s what makes a good audit.

    So great question, important question because a lot of people will be doing year and wrap ups.

    Around this time of year as I record this, a lot of people do quarterly wrap ups monthly wrap ups and you always want to have a very concise, here’s what we need to do.

    Here’s the decisions and the approvals I need from you report reader.

    Let’s go ahead and either make those decisions or continue on the way we are.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Discrepancies Between Facebook and Google Analytics?

    You Ask, I Answer: Discrepancies Between Facebook and Google Analytics?

    Enoch asks, “Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook Ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my ad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook.”

    A very common question. There are a bunch of reasons why one system is reporting differently than others:

    • Bot clicks/non-human clicks
    • Filtering in Google Analytics
    • No attribution data, so the clicks vanish into Direct/None
    • Outright lying

    Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.

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    In today’s episode Enoch asks, Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my dad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook, what’s going on? This is very common questions a very common situation.

    People have with reporting systems from different vendors.

    It’s one of the reasons why analytics is so challenging for marketers because the systems measure things sometimes in very different ways.

    Now, in this case, there’s clearly something wrong when you have essentially what’s almost a 10 x difference between one system and the other.

    And this is a four reasons probably, that this would be happening.

    Number one.

    Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.

    When you put on your UTM tracking code.

    Sometimes people Which is eat some never displays improperly, etc.

    The antidote for that, by the way is to use a link shortener in the ad itself.

    So using like bit.ly or something to shorten your fully encoded link and put that as the destination LinkedIn, Facebook, so the Facebook can’t overwrite those URL tracking codes.

    It’s a common best practice.

    So there’s, that is one of the things that configuration issues.

    There is the very very nonzero possibility that your ads are attracting bot clicks or non human clicks or click farms, essentially fraudulent clicks.

    Facebook, unlike Google ads, to my knowledge does not publish any data about percentage of fraudulent clicks.

    But we do know from news releases that Facebook has been deleting literally billions of accounts for being bots and fraudulent and farms and such like that.

    So there’s a good possibility that some of those clicks that you’re seeing the discrepancy is From non human, non valid clicks, let’s call them that.

    Another possibility is that you have filtering on turned on in Google Analytics in some way that is masking or deleting the data that is coming in, you’d have to check your filters to be sure that there’s that’s not set up incorrectly.

    There’s the possibility that there is no attribution data being passed along at all.

    So that’s where the UTM tracking codes are getting lost.

    And depending on your audience and the browser they’re using UTM tracking codes may not work correctly.

    There may be URL attributes either in the ad itself or on Facebook that is essentially stripping where the traffic came from.

    This is called the no refer attribute.

    And it’s really something kind of a noxious that that companies do if they use that attribute.

    It is essential saying don’t pass any offering information on to the destination site.

    And the fourth and final possibility is somebody like somebody, one of these ad systems is not telling the truth.

    The there, each of these companies has an incentive to make its own metrics look better.

    And by definition, therefore, they have an incentive to make other ad systems look not as good.

    And the reason for this is pretty straightforward.

    It’s who gets your ad dollars, right? Where do you spend your money? Where do you get results from? So I would go through and check very clearly your Google Analytics setup to make sure that it is bringing in data as accurately as possible, I would go through and check your Facebook ads to make sure they are all set up as correctly as possible.

    Make sure that you are hard coding your UTM tracking codes to ensure that they are showing up correctly in in Google Analytics Regardless of where they come from, to make sure that it’s all set up properly.

    And then if the discrepancy continues, if you’re still seeing, you know, five x or 10 x discrepancies.

    The thing to look at is in Google Analytics, if you assume you have goals and goal completion setup, is Facebook as a traffic source converting.

    Now even if, you know, in this example, if Facebook says, you’d sent 451 clicks, and Google says it sent 58 and 56 of those convert, guess what? That’s probably okay.

    You know, Facebook as a traffic source is okay, even if the metrics are wonky, because you’re getting to your actual business impact.

    If on the other hand, Facebook says is sending a million people to your site and Google saying okay, it’s you said 200,000 people site and one person converts.

    Doesn’t matter which system is right or wrong.

    It’s just not converting right.

    It’s it’s not good.

    Traffic regardless.

    So that’s, that’s the challenge there.

    Now, one of the tricky problems here is that when you have these massive discrepancies, your return on ad spend calculations are going to be off pretty wildly 10 x off in this case, in this instance, in terms of your return on ad spend, because Facebook’s going to give you all sorts of crazy metrics, like users and stuff, I would use the measurement system that is closest to the bottom of the funnel.

    So free for you that is Google Analytics rather than Facebook.

    So be it then that’s the system that you choose, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, measure, as close to the bottom of the funnel as possible so that from an operations perspective, you have a sense of which systems are working better or worse.

    So that’s the answer to this question.

    Again, Facebook ads.

    I’ve talked to a number of folks who run them who do Facebook ads professionally.

    Facebook is notorious for losing your data.

    And then sort of almost forcing you to rely on there as a source.

    At least that seems to be their intent.

    whether that’s true or not.

    I don’t know.

    But that is definitely what people’s experience has been so take that into consideration that Google Analytics may be giving you better data.

    As always, if you have follow up questions, leave them in the box below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon.

    Take care what helps solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems, visit Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you In today’s episode Enoch asks, Why do I see such huge discrepancies between Facebook ads and Google Analytics? Facebook says my dad got 451 clicks and Google says the corresponding landing page got 58 clicks from Facebook, what’s going on? This is very common questions a very common situation.

    People have with reporting systems from different vendors.

    It’s one of the reasons why analytics is so challenging for marketers because the systems measure things sometimes in very different ways.

    Now, in this case, there’s clearly something wrong when you have essentially what’s almost a 10 x difference between one system and the other.

    And this is a four reasons probably, that this would be happening.

    Number one.

    Facebook ads are notorious for losing tracking codes.

    When you put on your UTM tracking code.

    Sometimes people Which is eat some never displays improperly, etc.

    The antidote for that, by the way is to use a link shortener in the ad itself.

    So using like bit.ly or something to shorten your fully encoded link and put that as the destination LinkedIn, Facebook, so the Facebook can’t overwrite those URL tracking codes.

    It’s a common best practice.

    So there’s, that is one of the things that configuration issues.

    There is the very very nonzero possibility that your ads are attracting bot clicks or non human clicks or click farms, essentially fraudulent clicks.

    Facebook, unlike Google ads, to my knowledge does not publish any data about percentage of fraudulent clicks.

    But we do know from news releases that Facebook has been deleting literally billions of accounts for being bots and fraudulent and farms and such like that.

    So there’s a good possibility that some of those clicks that you’re seeing the discrepancy is From non human, non valid clicks, let’s call them that.

    Another possibility is that you have filtering on turned on in Google Analytics in some way that is masking or deleting the data that is coming in, you’d have to check your filters to be sure that there’s that’s not set up incorrectly.

    There’s the possibility that there is no attribution data being passed along at all.

    So that’s where the UTM tracking codes are getting lost.

    And depending on your audience and the browser they’re using UTM tracking codes may not work correctly.

    There may be URL attributes either in the ad itself or on Facebook that is essentially stripping where the traffic came from.

    This is called the no refer attribute.

    And it’s really something kind of a noxious that that companies do if they use that attribute.

    It is essential saying don’t pass any offering information on to the destination site.

    And the fourth and final possibility is somebody like somebody, one of these ad systems is not telling the truth.

    The there, each of these companies has an incentive to make its own metrics look better.

    And by definition, therefore, they have an incentive to make other ad systems look not as good.

    And the reason for this is pretty straightforward.

    It’s who gets your ad dollars, right? Where do you spend your money? Where do you get results from? So I would go through and check very clearly your Google Analytics setup to make sure that it is bringing in data as accurately as possible, I would go through and check your Facebook ads to make sure they are all set up as correctly as possible.

    Make sure that you are hard coding your UTM tracking codes to ensure that they are showing up correctly in in Google Analytics Regardless of where they come from, to make sure that it’s all set up properly.

    And then if the discrepancy continues, if you’re still seeing, you know, five x or 10 x discrepancies.

    The thing to look at is in Google Analytics, if you assume you have goals and goal completion setup, is Facebook as a traffic source converting.

    Now even if, you know, in this example, if Facebook says, you’d sent 451 clicks, and Google says it sent 58 and 56 of those convert, guess what? That’s probably okay.

    You know, Facebook as a traffic source is okay, even if the metrics are wonky, because you’re getting to your actual business impact.

    If on the other hand, Facebook says is sending a million people to your site and Google saying okay, it’s you said 200,000 people site and one person converts.

    Doesn’t matter which system is right or wrong.

    It’s just not converting right.

    It’s it’s not good.

    Traffic regardless.

    So that’s, that’s the challenge there.

    Now, one of the tricky problems here is that when you have these massive discrepancies, your return on ad spend calculations are going to be off pretty wildly 10 x off in this case, in this instance, in terms of your return on ad spend, because Facebook’s going to give you all sorts of crazy metrics, like users and stuff, I would use the measurement system that is closest to the bottom of the funnel.

    So free for you that is Google Analytics rather than Facebook.

    So be it then that’s the system that you choose, generally speaking, as a rule of thumb, measure, as close to the bottom of the funnel as possible so that from an operations perspective, you have a sense of which systems are working better or worse.

    So that’s the answer to this question.

    Again, Facebook ads.

    I’ve talked to a number of folks who run them who do Facebook ads professionally.

    Facebook is notorious for losing your data.

    And then sort of almost forcing you to rely on there as a source.

    At least that seems to be their intent.

    whether that’s true or not.

    I don’t know.

    But that is definitely what people’s experience has been so take that into consideration that Google Analytics may be giving you better data.

    As always, if you have follow up questions, leave them in the box below.

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel and the newsletter, I’ll talk to you soon.

    Take care what helps solving your company’s data analytics and digital marketing problems, visit Trust insights.ai today and let us know how we can help you

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Campaign Timeouts and Lookback Windows

    You Ask, I Answer: Google Analytics Campaign Timeouts and Lookback Windows

    Mike asks, “In Google Analytics, is lookback window the same as conversion window?”

    Good question – at first they can seem similar, but they’re different features. The conversion window’s proper name is campaign timeout, and it’s the length of time someone can be attributed to a campaign, without subsequent activity, before they’re dropped out. This is in reference to the utm_campaign tracking code. Lookback window is just how far back to look in conversion analysis for more complex attribution models like time decay. Watch the video for a walkthrough.

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    In today’s episode Mike asks is in Google Analytics is look back window the same as conversion window? So this is a good question.

    It’s the first two can seem similar, but they’re they’re very different features a conversion window.

    In this case, the proper name is campaign timeout.

    And it’s basically the amount of time that somebody can be enrolled in a campaign, which you did to them by tagging a link they clicked on with the UTM campaign tracking code.

    And subsequent actions within that campaign before they stop.

    So everything within Google Analytics operates kind of on like a timeline.

    You do something and then some time goes by and you do something again, and it’s almost like a clock resets and says, Hey, you just didn’t a new thing.

    I’m going to say that you’re you’re back in the game, right? And then you some more time goes by, and then that person doesn’t do anything.

    Then, whatever that window is you set Google Analytics will say, Well, you know, that was the last time you did something, and it’s a long time has passed.

    So the next time you come back, if it’s outside the window, you set me saying, I’m gonna put you in a new campaign, or I’m going to treat you as though you’re in.

    Maybe a similar the same name campaign, but you are essentially a separate person at that point, because you’ve gone outside that window.

    This is important for attribution analysis.

    Because if your campaign windows are too short, then essentially, every time that person comes back outside of that window, they’re treated as a new person.

    And that’s not something that you want to have happen.

    You want to know that that’s the same person as much as possible.

    And so there’s two schools of thought this one is is making campaign windows long as possible which there is some sense to that.

    But if you have a product or service which has repeat buyers, things and you want to know and that Windows, US super short window, you may want to know that yes, this person came back and really should be treated as a new person for the purposes of understanding things like upsells and stuff like that.

    Another school of thought is, you know, keep the the window as short as a sales cycle, which can be risky because again, if you want to treat that person as a new person, who do you want to know, it was the same person the whole time.

    So let’s look in Google Analytics where this is stored.

    I’m going to bring this up here.

    In Google Analytics, that campaign timeout, if you go to your settings in the lower left hand corner, go to tracking info, and then you go to session settings and this is where campaign time at a store and you can see it’s got a maximum 24 months out of the box, it comes with a six month campaign window are the general recommendation here is if I would say if it’s your campaigns are less than six months, then keep it at this.

    If it’s more than the six months, then it should be ideally double what you’re asking.

    average sales cycle is so if your average sales cycle is nine months, make it 18 months Why? Because you won’t be able to catch those people who are anomalies who sit outside that window and know that they’re essentially are this still the same person if you have a sale that occurs yearly, you definitely want to have this beat maybe even be that 24 months to see is that person the same person over and over again? Right.

    So you have to do some analytics.

    Now look back window is something different look back window.

    If we go into multi channel funnels here into assisted conversions, you will see the the look back here.

    Look back window is how Google uses time to do the attribution analysis itself in this window and it’s it always resets itself to 30 days.

    Look back window is how long of a time Google should take into account data for more complex attribution models.

    Generally speaking, most people use Google Analytics with the default, which is last touch with and look back window doesn’t really matter for that.

    It’s also a bad attribution model.

    Look back window is more helpful for more complex models like time decay, where essentially, there’s HalfLife windows every seven days that Google assigns decline and credit to conversions that are two touches that happened earlier in the past saying, hey, yeah, you open email, but you open the email 80 days ago.

    So the credit x is very little compared to that Facebook ad that you just clicked on two days ago that you get more credit, and the conversion because it’s more recent, your look back window, essentially tells Google take into account however little or much information we have here in order to from from a time perspective in order to get a more nuanced view of how much how far back should we be looking to to give conversion credit to different channels.

    So if you’ll see I have another 11 assists conversions 60 last touch conversions here.

    If I set this look back window, crank it all the way to 90 days.

    I didn’t really change anything.

    Let’s do this year 113 one fifth one there and let’s see if there’s a substantial difference here.

    You can see the assistant conversion value went down a little bit when I shorten that window because essentially we’re saying when you get when you shorten that window give credit only up to how far back to look.

    So stuff that happened previously suddenly starts to lose credit because they happened so long ago, it’s outside this window.

    So instead, generally speaking, for most companies, most of the time, there isn’t a harm in keeping that window at 90 days just to be able to see what as far back as you can go deserves some credit when you’re looking at these assistive versions, what deserves a little bit of credit and attribution for those conversions.

    So that’s the way how to use this look back when but this is especially important for e commerce, because e commerce has actual dollar amounts built in.

    But it also does use the dollar amount set when you set your goals and goal values.

    So those are the two timeouts and Windows within Google Analytics that are important.

    And they’re both very different and application.

    It’s important to know what to use and where in order to get great answers.

    Remember the wit especially when it comes to look back window, and attribution models and stuff.

    The ultimate goal is not to have a fancy model, the ultimate goal is to make good decisions to say okay, what should I invest more in? What should I invest less than what’s driving better results or worse results for me? And that’s the purpose and function of this information.

    So good question.

    Good.

    Follow up.

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