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    What’s On My Mind: Next Generation AI Models

    At the start and end of the 2024 Marketing AI Conference (MAICON), Paul Roetzer and team asked these ten questions:

    • How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?
    • How will generative Al model advancements impact creative work, and creativity?
    • How will consumer information consumption and buying behaviors change?
    • How will consumer changes impact search, advertising, publishing, etc.?
    • How will Al-related copyright and IP issues affect marketers?
    • How will Al impact marketing strategies and budgets?
    • How will Al impact marketing technology stacks?
    • How will marketing jobs change?
    • How will Al impact agencies?
    • How will Al impact brands?

    Each of these questions is practically a book unto itself, so over the next few pieces of content, we’ll tackle some of them. Every person will and should have their own answers to these questions – your answers should vary from mine based on how you use AI.

    So let’s dig (I should start using delve unironically) into the first big one:

    How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?

    Part 1: What is a Next Generation AI Model?

    The first big part of the question we have to tackle is what constitutes a next generation model. What exactly does this mean?

    Today’s models fall under two fundamental architectures: transformers and diffusers. Transformers predict the next token in a sequence based on all the previous tokens. Diffusers essentially compare noise to images they’ve already seen and chip away at the noise until they arrive at a blend of whatever the prompt is.

    After the release of OpenAI o1, many people are talking about the next generation of models as reasoning models, in alignment with the march towards artificial general intelligence, the ability for AI to be smarter than people at any given task. That’s certainly one dimension of next generation models, but not the only one.

    What is reasoning, and why do we care? Today’s models, when naively prompted, do not do anything more than they’re told to do. Give them a simple prompt, they generate a simple answer. New models like o1 have a certain type of reasoning, known as chain of thought (aka “think things through step by step”) built it, as a way to get generally better results out of AI that require thought.

    An interesting side effect of “reasoning” pointed out by my friend Ruby King is that reasoning is only applicable to some tasks. Others have noted, for example, that o1 is producing better reasoning but less creative writing. This makes logical sense; reasoning is all about finding logical steps to solve a problem. Logic inherently involves some level of probability.

    Creativity, in many ways, involves the antithesis of probability. What makes something creative is often something low probability. A piece of music that is made entirely of high probability notes is boring and uninteresting. A piece of music that has surprises in it – key changes, tempo changes, things that are less common – is more interesting.

    That’s one dimension of a next generation model – foundation models may split into different types of cognitive tasks. Some models may have more creative outputs at the expense of logic, and others may have the reverse.

    But that’s only one dimension. Other next generation models may ford significant gaps in today’s model capabilities. For example, transformers and diffusion models don’t work well together. If you’ve ever tried to make a slide deck with generative AI, you know what a frustrating and ultimately fruitless task that is.

    Why? Because transformer models – predicting the next word, effectively – are fundamentally different than diffusion models, which predict what pixels should be nearby based on words in the prompt. The net result is that you either get slide decks that are all words, or you get clip art slides that are trite and meaningless.

    On top of that, creating a slide deck is both art and science, both reasoning – creating a logical flow of a presentation – and creative, creating surprises along the way.

    Today’s models may be multimodal, but they have exceptional difficulty crossing multiple boundaries at the same time. Future models, next generation models, should be able to do this more fluently, but for today, easily creating a logical AND creative slide deck is out of reach for many models and tools.

    Next generation models will also have substantially larger working memories. Already, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro has a working memory of up to 2 million tokens, or 1.5 million words. They’ve extended that window experimentally to 10 million tokens, or about 7.5 million words. Once models get that large, they start to take on even greater capabilities and draw even more connections within data.

    Finally, next generation models will be taking in multiple different data types. Right now, transformers models handle tokens, and mostly text. Diffusers handle mostly images. But we’re seeing the advent of models that have sensory inputs – vision, audio, spatial awareness, tactile awareness, olfactory sensors. As more sensory data makes its way into model training, expect models to have greater capabilities that rely on sensory knowledge.

    Part 2: How Will We Use Next Generation Capabilities?

    So we have several different dimensions of next generation models, from reasoning vs. creativity, true multimodal, and sensory data. How will we use these capabilities?

    Every time we add new capabilities, we can infer several things. First, we’ll use those new capabilities at an increasing rate, proportional to how we think the models will do. People leapt to use models like GPT-3.5-Turbo back in the day, even when it was clear it had substantial limitations. Today, we use models like GPT-4omni or Gemini 1.5 at much greater capacities because of the models capabilities.

    This in turns mean that we’ll turn over more tasks to machines based on those capabilities. Suppose, for example, we have models that have true olfactory understanding. A perfect use case for such a model would be detecting things like spoiled food, gas leaks, etc. Anything that a person could smell, a model that has olfactory data could also smell. What does that change? How will we use it differently?

    Smell and taste, for example, are highly correlated. Today, language models are capable of processing enormous amounts of text data. It’s trivial to write a book review with a language model. Could we have a model with olfactory data provide food reviews? Yes.

    The potential of splitting foundation models into reasoning versus creative has already happened in the open models world; many people have done fine-tunes of open models like Llama 3.1 to make them more creative writers (less reasoning) or better coders (less improbability). Foundation models following suit is a logical thing.

    The big change will be overcoming boundaries between model types. There are experiments in labs now on “transfusion” models that blur the line between transformer (words) and diffuser (images). How well these perform compared to their pure progenitors remains to be seen, but early research suggests strong capabilities.

    Part 3: What are the Second Order Effects of Next Generation Models?

    Now, let’s dig into those second order effects. For those unfamiliar, a second order effect is a consequence, often unforeseen, of a major change. For example, a second order effect of the mobile phone was that the offline world became part of the online world, a hybridization we see today. Go to a restaurant and scan a code to download the latest menu, or order something in an app that arrives at your front door.

    Job loss is one such second order effect of generative AI. We see this in professions like software development, which has had massive declines in hiring demand over the last two years. This happens in part because AI is so empowering to developers, it increases their productivity 2x-5x easily. What happens when you have an employee who does the work of five people? You don’t hire four more people.

    What this means for you and me is that we have to continue identifying what value we provide that a machine cannot. The biggest, easiest win is our ability to build meaningful relationships with each other.

    New job creation is also a second order effect. A colleague of mine who has a PhD in a relatively arcane field has been working for an AI company writing text just for AI. Their work is never made public, never released, never consumed by another human. Instead, it helps this company make a bespoke fine-tune with data that no one else has.

    Election tampering and disinformation are second order effects, and as models become more capable, the ability to do bad things with them increases at exactly the same rate as the ability to do good things.

    As I often say in my keynotes, paraphrasing the Captain America movie: AI is an amplifier. It makes the good into better and the bad into worse. Every capability we add to AI amplifies what we can do with the tools, for good or ill.

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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 5: Shaping the Future of AGI – Ethics, Governance, and Hope

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 5: Shaping the Future of AGI - Ethics, Governance, and Hope

    In the final episode of this eye-opening series on AGI, you’ll confront the ethical and governance issues surrounding this powerful technology. You’ll learn how you can help shape a future where AGI is used responsibly and ethically, ensuring it benefits humanity instead of harming it. You’ll walk away with a call to action, inspired to advocate for transparency, accountability, and regulation in the development and deployment of AGI. Tune in to discover how to ensure a brighter future with AGI!

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 5: Shaping the Future of AGI – Ethics, Governance, and Hope

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    So, we’ve talked, in this five-part series, about what artificial general intelligence is: general intelligence—the ability to solve problems without being specifically trained for them.

    We’ve talked about the ladder to get to general intelligence: from narrow tools, to broad tools within a domain, to expert level tools, to super intelligence, and we’re still pretty, pretty low on that ladder. We talked about the things you could see happening—machines that are agentic in nature, that can solve problems autonomously. We can give them our biggest problems: “Solve this kind of cancer,” “come up with a vaccine for this disease.”

    We talked about the things that are probably going to go wrong, like structural unemployment, or civil unrest.

    So to cap off this series, let’s talk about the things that we can do—you and I can do—to minimize the risks as much as we can, and hopefully reap as many of the benefits as possible.

    The important thing is that we can do a lot of things that we can do, but the important thing to remember is that artificial general intelligence is still manmade. It is still human-made, which means that we are ultimately the ones that have a say over how it develops, and how it grows.

    There are a lot of people who are building these systems who—let’s just call them “ethically challenged.” That’s the polite term I would use. They are ethically challenged, and they are profit motivated to the exclusion of other objectives—of other outcomes.

    Our role as citizens, as people, as marketers, as business owners, as, as pillars of society is to enforce some key principles around AI as it develops so that bad outcomes are less likely.

    What are those, those principles?

    Number one: transparency. This is… this is an area where today’s AI really sucks. Like, “Hey, how’d you make that model? What’s in it? Where’d you get the training data? Did you have permission to use that training data?”

    We don’t have transparency in today’s AI; that’s something that has to change. As buyers, as consumers, we have to talk with our wallets. If you have two models that are close-ish in performance—one has that transparency, has the nutrition label that says exactly what’s in the box, and the other one doesn’t—we’ve got to prefer, vocally prefer, the one that is telling us, “Here’s how this model was made.”

    The second thing is accountability. This is something we need to work out. Who is responsible when AI makes a mistake, particularly a mistake that has serious consequences, like, say, a self-driving car just plowing into a crowd of pedestrians. Who’s responsible for that? Who gets sued? That’s something we have to work out.

    Number three, we have to work out (and request of our various governments and things) a taxation structure that accommodates machines. If a machine is going to do human labor, a machine should be taxed in the same way that human labor works because, when you and I work, we pay taxes. That money has got to come from somewhere. So, if a machine works—that machine does the same work—it should be taxed the same. That allows for things like initiatives, like basic income, to exist.

    There are a lot of interests, particularly in capitalist societies, that don’t want to see that happen, because that will eat into their profits and margins, and that goes back to accountability. But, if we want to have a society that’s functional… If we want to have a society that’s functional, that’s something we’ve got to focus on.

    Today’s AI systems are optimized on a pretty squishy set of ethics: helpful, harmless, truthful, right? Try and be helpful, try to be harmless, try to be truthful. We all know they don’t do a great job of that sometimes.

    We have to be much more clear about what the rules are of the systems and have, if not universal, at least generally accepted, best practices that most systems, out of the box, should adhere to. Think about Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics. Those were classic for a reason, and the reason was, they made so much sense. “A machine will not harm, or through its inaction, allow harm to come to a human being.” That is a logical and sensible thing.

    “Helpful, harmless, truthful” is kind of squishy when you compare it to Asimov’s Laws of Robotics, and so a big part of what we need to do from an optimizing AI is say, “These are the principles that we want to optimize for,” very clearly, so that the models know what to do, particularly as they increase in sophistication, they increase in their reasoning capabilities, we’ve got to make sure that that’s built into the systems.

    We also have to pay very close attention to how models deal with human biases—not statistical biases, that’s a separate category, but human biases. What things like fairness and justice, discrimination: When is it allowed? When is it not allowed? Answering these questions is going to vary based on the local context in a society.

    So, as we build and grow this technology, we’ll have to adapt the technology to the societies it operates in. If you live in a society that has very different laws than the laws where the model was made, the model needs to be adapted to those laws, and run locally, within that society, to adhere to the… to what is considered acceptable. Ethics and morals are about alignment to what people generally accept as right or wrong, and that varies from society to society.

    Finally, as much as I think there’s a lot to be said for independence and freedom with machines, because they can have consequences at such vast levels, they need much more strict regulation than humans do. A person, yes, can influence a lot of people, but a machine can influence way more people, directly, hands-on.

    We saw this with social media, when social media algorithms, optimized for view time and stickiness, with no other considerations for ethics, said, “Well, great, let’s make people angry and afraid all the time,” all the time. And it works great—for that algorithm. Does it work great for human well-being? No.

    So part of what we have to work on is having a framework for regulation around these machines, and, again, there are some very moneyed interests who are not at all interested in that happening, because it means reduced profits, but, if we want a functioning society, where we’re not shooting each other all the time, we probably need to go down the route of policy and regulation, international cooperation, informed engagement about what these machines should be able to do, and what things these machines must not do.

    One of the areas that I’m personally most concerned about, because I’ve seen rapid advancements happen in the last few years, is machines that have autonomous kill authority. We are seeing this happening in Ukraine. Now, to be very clear, I am a staunch supporter of a free and whole Ukraine, and to see Russia’s campaign of terrorism expelled from that country, and see the country restored as a whole—that’s not negotiable; I want to see a free and whole Ukraine. However, to accomplish that, given the manpower differences, Ukraine has been very, very smartly digging into autonomous weapons—weapons that can make kill decisions on their own. That is a very dangerous place for our species as a whole to be, to have machines that have kill authority, without very strict guidelines about that.

    The way Ukraine is using it is very smart. For example, a lot of the demos they’ve shown are… So that it’s image recognition, for example. It’s looking for a T-72 tank; it’s not going to mistake someone’s Prius for a T-72 tank. It’s not going to accidentally bomb a Prius…

    “Solve this cancer, solve this issue, this addiction issue.”

    That’s what we want to get to, but to get to that, we’ve got to leave behind the… our foibles that we’ve thus far dragged into our machines.

    I’ll leave this series on this note. One of the things, when I was in my younger years, I wanted to… I wanted to get my black belt in the martial arts, but I very specifically wanted to get my black belt before my first child was born.

    The reason for that is, the process of getting there, in the martial arts tradition that I was in—that I’m in—is you have to leave behind a lot of things to get to that. In the school I trained in, the Boston Martial Arts Center, with, with Master Instructor Mark Davis, the black belt test is… In our school, is always about the thing you’re worst at.

    Someone who’s not an intellectual, their black belt test is like, three hours of “you have to do every technique, precisely, and recite the names in Japanese, in order,” and so on and so forth. Someone who’s not physical, your black belt test is, “You’re going to run, basically, a half marathon, and get beaten up along the way.” You’re afraid of fighting, or you’re… you’re… you’re hesitant to fight, your black belt test is just a brawl.

    Sensei Davis does an amazing job of creating a test that makes you face the things you don’t want to face, to leave them behind, to leave that behind, so that you can progress and elevate yourself, and so it’s a very important thing for me, personally, to, to get through this process before my first child was born, because I, I knew, in the back of my head, if I could do that, then there would be fewer of my own mistakes to pass on to my kid, right? Fewer of my own mistakes to pass on to my kid. Fewer limitations, as a person, to pass on to my kid. I still… I mean, I’m still going to do that, to some degree, but if I could make a conscious effort to do less of that, and leave behind the parts of me that were not as good, I would be creating better conditions for my kids to succeed, because of, of who I am.

    This is how we think about artificial general intelligence. As a civilization, as, as a species, what are the things we should leave behind, so that, as these machines skill up, and grow up, they’re not inheriting from us our worst aspects. They are instead inheriting from us our best aspects. That’s what we got to figure out. If we don’t figure that out, it’s going to be bad, and, if we do figure it out, it’s going to be awesome.

    So I hope that you take an active role in speaking up about the use of AI, and the, the march towards general intelligence, and advocate for that perspective of transparency, and accountability, fairness, justice, optimizing for human wellness, optimizing away from harming humans, even at the expense of profits and sustainability.

    Thanks for tuning into this series; I’ll talk to you on the next one.

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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI – Unintended Consequences and Risks

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI - Unintended Consequences and Risks

    In today’s episode, we’re shifting gears to address the potential downsides of AGI, moving beyond science fiction tropes to focus on the real-world risks. You’ll discover the social and economic challenges AGI presents, such as job displacement and widening income inequality. You’ll learn why these issues demand immediate attention and what steps we can take to mitigate negative consequences. Tune in to understand the potential perils of AGI and become part of the solution!

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 4: The Peril of AGI – Unintended Consequences and Risks

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    Christopher Penn: All right, let’s continue our five-part series on artificial general intelligence. This is part four: the perils of artificial general intelligence, unintended consequences, and risks.

    Let’s recap real quick. General intelligence, artificial or not, is the ability to address a problem, without having experience in it, to solve or start solving it with no background with it—we haven’t been trained to do it.

    You and I have this ability. Many animals have this ability, and machines—we’re trying to get them to that ability. There are five levels of AI, from narrow use, to more broad use within a domain, to collaborative use (where the AI is semi-autonomous and doing things), to expert super intelligence (where it can… it can exceed human abilities for a given task), to fully autonomous, kind of self-directed—”does its own thing”. That’s sort of the pinnacle of artificial general intelligence.

    AI in general, and AGI in specific, have some interesting perils. A lot of people have sort of latched onto the existential perils—or, like I call them, the “Skynet and Terminator” perils, like, “Oh, the machine becomes sentient and self-aware, and kills us all.”

    It’s not that that can’t happen. I mean, if you think about it, if you gave a machine—absent other guidelines—you gave a machine and said, “Optimize for the maximum biodiversity and overall health of planet Earth, of the ecosystem you’re in,” rationally, logically, scientifically, you would look at the earth and all the different complex systems on it and go, “Wow, humans kind of suck. Time to get rid of you.”

    That would be the logical thing to do because humans are most of the problem on the planet. If you gave an artificial intelligence a very broad mandate to say, “Optimize for maximum biodiversity and overall long-term health,” it might say, “Yeah, yeah, those humans, they got to go.”

    That is the least of our problems.

    Could it happen? Yes, if you have a machine that’s sufficiently… sufficiently sophisticated, and is not air-gapped (which means it’s directly connected to the internet and stuff), you, you theoretically could have a Skynet/Terminator scenario. It’s unlikely, at least in the near term.

    What is a lot more likely is machines becoming really good at lots of general tasks. What does that mean? It means things like job displacement.

    We’ve been saying for a while that AI is not going to take your job—a person who’s skilled with AI will take your job. That is true, but as generative AI continues to accelerate, and we start seeing a path towards general intelligence, that statement becomes less and less true. There are jobs now that can be done by a machine, entirely, soup to nuts.

    Give you an example: I worked at a PR firm, and the most junior person on staff, the account coordinator on this one team—this is now, granted, this was about 10 years ago—this person was copying and pasting results from Google into a spreadsheet. That was their job, 40 hours a week; that and taking notes in meetings, and writing up the meeting notes, and sending it to the client. I can do the meeting notes part, no problem. I can do the copy-paste from Google, no problem. So that job goes away.

    That’s a kind of… That was a trade-off, because, on the one hand, that person no longer has employment, because you don’t need people doing those tasks. On the other hand, that’s kind of a soul-crushing job, so it might not be the worst thing for it to go away.

    But, as we work up that ladder toward general intelligence, job displacement increases for existing jobs. Now, one of the flip sides to this is that there will be entirely new jobs we don’t know about yet. We can’t see, we have no idea what they will look like.

    We’re starting to see… Christopher Penn: …that now. A friend who has a PhD in England—they have a job, they have a job writing content… for AI. They write content to train AI. That’s what they do. They get paid, like, $80,000 a year to do it; their content never sees the light of day, no human sees it. It’s just being built—they’re just being a trainer of machines. That job did not exist three years ago. Brand new job. There are going to be lots and lots of jobs that we don’t have any idea what they are yet.

    They’re going to—and we talked about this recently on the x-factors video—there’ll be jobs that we have a sense of where they’re going to go, based on other macro trends.

    But job displacement, as we work up the ladder, will increase. It will not be overnight. It’s not going to be, you wake up one day, and no one has jobs. It will be a slow erosion of today’s jobs, and the challenge for us as a society will be, “Can we create new jobs at the same pace we are eroding away the old jobs,” so that we don’t have structural unemployment. That’s a big problem.

    The second big problem on our way towards general intelligence is economic inequality. This is a big one. The more sophisticated and skilled AI gets towards AGI, the more you have income inequality, because you are now no longer paying humans wages, you’re now essentially having machines take over more and more labor. As that happens, people who use that output pay the owner of the machine. That money goes up to the owner, but does not then go back down to other people in wages, and that creates very severe income inequality problems. To the point where, if we don’t get a handle around this, we will have issues with things like civil unrest, because of structural unemployment.

    One of the challenges of AI that we do not have with previous generations’ technologies is the literal generation. In old times, the move from agriculture to industry happened over a century. Okay, over, like, a century and a half. So the way you did things, the way your kids did things, the way their kids did things were different, but you, yourself, never had to retrain because, by the time the technology changed enough, your kids were doing it differently. They just learned in a different way. That gradual change allowed for labor markets to shift.

    AI is progressing towards general intelligence so fast that a person who is 35 today, in five years, will be 40, and they may have to reskill entirely. They don’t think… There’s not enough time for their kids to grow up and learn to do that same profession differently.

    So that income inequality is going to be a significant problem.

    The third major problem on our march to general intelligence is misuse. Misuse, from political manipulation, and deepfakes, and simulations, to just distortions of truth, and there’s no good answers for that yet. There may be some down the road, as machines evolve to basically fact-check us, but that’s going to be an issue for a while.

    The existential risks are not as big as those societal risks. Those societal risks are going to be the problem we have to solve in the next five to 10 years. If we don’t, there will be very bad consequences.

    Generally speaking, when you have substantial inequality, that’s when the pitchforks and the torches come out, and that’s never pretty. That’s always, always bloody. Generally, when you have a politically unstable system, bad things happen. Again, that’s not a huge surprise. And generally, when you have structural unemployment, bad things happen.

    So we need to solve for these things sooner rather than later, and there are ways to potentially solve for things, like universal basic income, and robot taxes, and things—or, frankly, just enforcement of existing corporate tax laws. There are ways to solve that, but we need to do it soon.

    All right, that’s going to do it for this part. In the next part, let’s talk about ethics and governance and the likely road ahead. So stay tuned.

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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 3: The Promise of AGI – What We Can Expect

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 3: The Promise of AGI - What We Can Expect

    In today’s episode, we’re exploring the exciting potential of artificial general intelligence (AGI). You’ll discover how AGI could revolutionize fields like medicine, education, and marketing by tackling complex challenges that are currently beyond human capabilities. You’ll get a glimpse into a future where AGI collaborates with us to find cures for diseases, personalize education, and create groundbreaking marketing campaigns. Tune in to be inspired by the incredible possibilities that AGI offers!

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    Welcome back. This is part three in our series on artificial general intelligence.

    We’ve talked about what it is: general intelligence, the ability to solve problems that you haven’t been trained to do. We’ve talked about where we are, from level one being narrow purpose tools, to level two being broad tools within a domain (which is where we are now—tools like ChatGPT), to level three, collaborative tools that are semi-autonomous, to level four, expert tools that can do a better job than human experts in a given domain, and then level five, self-directed, fully autonomous machines (which we are very far away from).

    In this part, part three, let’s talk about what the world looks like if we have artificial general intelligence. What are the things that we could see as we move up this ladder?

    I want to be clear that we’re not talking about, “Okay, once this thing arrives in three decades, here’s what the world will look like.” We will be making progress along that ladder through this time.

    Let’s talk about some of those collaborative things. When you have a tool that is general and self-directed, you can give it an overall objective like, “Here is a known type of cancer. Figure out how to kill it without hurting the cells around it.”

    Then, given that overall objective—we’re starting to see this with agentic AI today—AI that can take a task and break it down into subtasks, and then process individual tasks. We are seeing this today.

    Agentic AI can look at that overall objective and say, “Okay, well, what causes cancer?” and so on and so forth, and, “Let’s try to break the task down into little pieces.”

    As we look at things like science and medicine and things, I would expect to be able to see progress towards setting a machine on a specific goal. “Here is Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Here’s everything we know about it. Here’s the mechanism for it. Solve it.” Let the machine start working on that to see what it can come up with, with parameters like, “Oh, you can’t kill the host.” Like, yes, technically, if you kill the host, the cancer is solved. That’s not a viable solution. So, here’s the rules and parameters to that task.

    General intelligence means a tool doesn’t necessarily need to be pre-trained in that specific task to tackle it; it can look at it.

    Another example: Education is a general intelligence task because every student is different. Every student has different educational needs. A machine that can semi-autonomously do a good, rigorous assessment of where a student is, and where their educational gaps are, and then build a curriculum and serve the curriculum to that student to patch those gaps, and get feedback from the education process, like, “Hey, I’m supposed to be helping you with statistics, but you’re still scoring in the 70s. So, let’s figure out new ways of teaching this to you.”

    That’s an example of general intelligence being able to improve the quality of an outcome, given the outcome and the access to the right tools and data to be able to solve those problems.

    Another example would be in marketing. Companies are working really hard on the idea of general intelligence within marketing to say, “Okay, I need to advertise to this audience, and I need to sell them this thing. How do we do that?”

    We have narrow examples of this in ad optimization, where tools can just create 1,000 ads all at once, test them all on the market and see which one succeeds, and use that human feedback to get smarter. But that’s a very narrow task.

    General intelligence would mean, “Okay, I have ads, but I also have email, I have SEO, I have mobile, I have interactive apps. I have all these different options. How do I orchestrate all these options together to maximize the likelihood that somebody buys something?”

    That’s an example of what general intelligence would be able to do. Whereas, today, you can do that, but you (the human) have to be the one orchestrating it all. You would run an ad optimizer and an email subject line optimizer, and this and that and the other thing, and then bring all the data together and have a language model, for example, do an analysis of the data. You, as the human, are still the glue in that situation.

    If we have general intelligence, you (the human) can step out of that. Have general intelligence figure out, “Well, here’s the things that are most likely to, overall, optimize for this particular situation.”

    This is where general intelligence is going in those—as I mentioned, level three is that collaborative nature, where it can start taking on more of a task. Instead of, for example—today we have tools like Suno that can write a song and put together the music and stuff, and it’s okay, it’s not going to win a Grammy anytime soon, but it’s okay—being able… a general intelligence would have more knowledge, not just of song composition, but of how human… how human beings reacted to a song. It would have data about the performance of that song and be able to simulate and synthesize and test, to come up with a hit song that actually sounds good because it has the ability to hop across domains.

    To not only say, “I can… I know what melody is, and I know what harmony is, and I know what the circle of fifths is, and I know what lyrics are,” to saying, “Hey, these people on YouTube are commenting about this, this piece that’s similar to the piece I made. What do they have in common? How can I take lessons from that piece over there and incorporate them into my piece?”

    That’s general intelligence. That’s what a human musician would do. A human musician would say, “Well, what makes a good pop song? Well, it’s going to have this lyric structure, it’s going to have this chord progression, it’s going to have this tempo, this key,” et cetera. Even if you’re not trying to actively copy, you know, Taylor Swift, you know what works as an expert human composer. And general intelligence—your general intelligence—would allow you to apply that same general set of boundaries and rules to a problem.

    That’s what general intelligence will do. There are no shortage of problems that require general intelligence because they’re too big for a specific tool, and they’re too big for us.

    Think about climate change for a second. Climate change is a massive problem, not because of the consequences—it is because of the consequences—but because there’s so many system inputs. There’s carbon dioxide, there’s methane, there’s sea ice, there’s the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, there is solar activity and solar minimum, solar maximum—how much energy the earth receives. There are infrared frequencies that can broadcast heat energy out into space. There’s so much information within a topic like climate change that, if you were to try and solve it with your head, your head would explode.

    But a general intelligence could ingest all of that at scale, and come up potentially with things that you haven’t thought of yet. For example, we’re starting to see that with today’s language models, to a much smaller degree, when a court case comes out. When the court publishes its opinion, you can take that 500-page opinion, stuff it in a language model, and say, “How does this impact me? How does this impact my business? How does this impact the way I do things?”

    You, as the human? Yeah, you could read all 500 pages. You probably couldn’t recall them with precision without a lot of reading, and you would struggle to keep in mind everything that was in there. A machine doesn’t have that problem, and so it can act as an expert consultant on that specific topic. A general intelligence can do that without you having to preload it; it will be able to go and find the information itself, pull it in, and come up with these conclusions for you.

    So that’s sort of the promise of general intelligence, if, if we can get it working. And as we move up that ladder, from narrow use, to broad use, to interactive use, to autonomous use, that’s, that’s the things that this technology should be able to do. Some of it will be able to do in the near-term.

    So that’s going to do it for this episode. Stay tuned for the next one. We’ll talk about what could go wrong.

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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 2: The Path to AGI – Where We Are and How We Get There

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 2: The Path to AGI - Where We Are and How We Get There

    In today’s episode, we’re diving deeper into the world of AGI, but instead of just theory, you’ll discover the five distinct levels of AI development that are the stepping stones to achieving true artificial general intelligence. You’ll learn where we are on that path today and what technological advancements are necessary to climb higher. You’ll gain a realistic perspective on the timeline for achieving AGI and what to expect along the way. Tune in to discover how close we really are to a future with AGI!

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    Christopher Penn: In this part, part two of our series on artificial general intelligence, we’re going to talk about the path to artificial general intelligence (or AGI), where things are, and where we could be going.

    Now, to recap real quick, artificial general intelligence means machines that can do any general task without being specifically built for it. ChatGPT, for example, is a tool that does language, and to some degree now does things like images and stuff. You have these multimodal models like Gemini and things that can do images and process video and audio, but they’re not going to fix a leaky toilet for you.

    General intelligence is being able to tackle any problem you throw at it in the same way that you humans do—you and I do.

    Let’s talk about the five layers of how you get to artificial general intelligence.

    The first layer—well, layer zero—would be no AI, just computers, spreadsheets, where we’ve been for the last 50 years.

    Level one is AI that has a very narrow focus: specific single-purpose tools. The AI that has been in place in your inbox for the last 25 years, helping you decide spam or not spam—that’s an example of very narrow AI. It’s good at one thing, and it can’t do anything else. That’s your first rung on the ladder towards artificial general intelligence: single-purpose AI.

    The second level is general within a specific domain. We’re talking about ChatGPT: you can ask it to write a poem, you can ask it to write a term paper, you can ask it to write an academic study. We’re still talking about generation—generative—but we’re talking about things where you don’t have to necessarily pre-train it just to do the specific task you want to do. If you want to rephrase a memo, you don’t have to spend an hour, an hour and a half, giving examples of memos and how to rewrite them properly. It’s baked into the model’s knowledge. This AI is sort of a consultant. It is sort of level two on the ladder toward general intelligence.

    Level three is things like machines as collaborators, where they can do some of the tasks that you give them, potentially somewhat autonomously. This would be an example where you have an AI agent in your Slack or your Discord for your company, and it’s just doing stuff for you. It attends a meeting, it takes notes, it sends you the notes, it puts things on your calendar. These are not intellectually rigorous tasks, but they are collaborative. They are assistants. You go from a passive consultant that’s just sitting there, waiting to do something, waiting for you to prompt it, to an assistant that can take action and do stuff.

    Level four is when you start getting into AI expertise, where you start to get to human and beyond human levels of intelligence. An example of this would be where you have, for example, you go to the doctor, and the machine ingests your medical records and your scans and stuff, and it provides you with that first-level diagnosis, like, “Hey, it looks like your cholesterol is a little high, buddy. You should lay off the quarter pounders.” Then the human essentially confirms that, says, “Yep, that’s, that’s a sensible conclusion.”

    The AI is acting as an expert, semi-autonomously. It’s in place to take in a bunch of very generalized situations, like, “Hey, you’ve got this, you’ve got some high cholesterol, and a genetic history of this and things.” It’s at the point where it’s going to perform better than the human to a degree.

    We’re at that point today to a degree, for stuff that requires minimal competency. Summarizing meeting notes: If you were to look at the spectrum of executive assistants and administrative assistants, from day one to 30-year veteran, somewhere in the middle, people have been in the profession, five years, 10 years, whatever—they’re good at what they do.

    Machines today are at that point where they can do the work as well as an average person. They can’t do the work as well as that 30-year expert who just anticipates and knows, “This is exactly what’s needed at this moment.” They’ve got the life experience; they can do the job way better than that person who just graduated college. They’ve got the English degree, and they’re like, “I don’t even know how to operate this phone system.”

    That’s where tools today, like some of the transcription software, can do these summarizations. But when you get to that level for that expertise, you’re talking about things that are beyond human capabilities today, because machines can just hold more in their memories than we can.

    If you think about Google’s Gemini, the current Gemini 1.5 model (as of the date of this recording) has a 2 million token context window. Put in practical terms, it can hold two of these in one prompt. You and I can’t do this. We cannot recite, word for word, the entirety of William Shakespeare, accurately, in seconds. Just can’t do it. But machines can hold this much information.

    Again, this scale of this ladder towards artificial general intelligence is how things are likely to play out. Autonomous, artificial, super intelligence—machines that are self-directed, machines that understand the world, machines that could be fully autonomous; you say, “Hey, here is this computer network. Optimize it. Optimize for maximum performance.” It decides what maximum performance means. It looks at all the data and starts making changes on its own.

    We’re not there yet. We are not there yet, and we will not be there for quite some time because just the compute power alone would be insurmountable as an issue to deal with.

    Now, how do we get there? What are the technologies? A lot of the tooling we need exists. We don’t have the compute power. We have deep learning and reinforcement learning with human feedback, and symbolic artificial intelligence. We have all these fancy technologies that essentially allow a machine to learn. You give it an example; it learns from the example, it can do a lot of AI. It’s all machine learning—hence the name “machine learning”—but we’re running into scale issues.

    The amount of power that AI consumes is an issue; the amount of memory that a video card can hold to do inference is an issue, and so it’s going to be very challenging to overcome those issues. But if we can, with the variety of technologies that are available, we will be able to make our way up the ladder.

    So we are at level—we’re at level two today. Level zero is no AI, level one is narrow purpose tools, level two is broader tools within a domain—ChatGPT, Anthropic, Claude, etc. We are not at level three yet, those collaborators, those semi-autonomous agents. We’re not there yet; we’re getting there. Level three is probably achievable in the next year or two as models get more sophisticated.

    Level four, AI superhuman experts—we’re not there yet. It’s going to be a long time, years if not decades. Level five, decades, probably, for a truly autonomous, self-directed machine. We’re a long way away from them.

    So in part three, we’re going to talk about what we can expect as we start moving up this ladder as we start getting towards collaborative AI and then expert AI. Stick around for that; we’ll see you on the next one.

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  • Mind Readings: AGI Part 1: Demystifying AGI – What It Is and What It Isn’t

    Mind Readings: AGI Part 1: Demystifying AGI - What It Is and What It Isn't

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn all about Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a hot topic with a lot of misconceptions floating around. You’ll benefit from a clear and concise explanation of what AGI is and what it isn’t, helping you gain a deeper understanding of this game-changing technology. You’ll also discover why talk of a “singularity” or machines taking over the world is premature and based on misunderstandings of how AGI is developing. Tune in to separate AGI fact from fiction!

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    Christopher Penn: In this five-part series this week, we’re going to tackle artificial general intelligence, a term that you’ve heard a lot in the news in all sorts of places. It’s not really clear to a lot of people what this means, partly because the folks who make systems keep moving the goalposts because of various things that are pretty clear that they’re not going to be able to achieve.

    So we’re going to tackle what artificial general intelligence is, how we get there, when we’ll get there, what we can expect from it (assuming that we are able to actually create this thing), the unintended consequences and risks of it, and the ethics, governance, and what it all means in this five-part series this week.

    So let’s get started with part one, which is what the heck is this stuff? Why are we even talking about this? Artificial general intelligence is an umbrella term that basically means computers that have the ability to have general intelligence.

    What is general intelligence? It is when you approach a problem that you haven’t solved before. You may not have a lot of domain knowledge about it, but you give it your best shot. Because you have general, flexible, agile intelligence, you might be able to solve it.

    You are walking through the woods and you see a plant, and you’re not sure whether the plant’s edible or not. So you look around and you sniff it, maybe you take a little taste of it. If it’s bitter, you’re like, “Yeah, nope, bitter things generally are bad.” Brightly colored things like red—bright reds—generally are kind of a warning.

    You would apply general reasoning to a new situation you’ve never tackled before. You encounter a new animal and you’re like, “Well, it’s got legs, so it’s clearly walking around. It doesn’t look like I have wings, so it probably can’t fly.”

    That’s general intelligence. Human beings and many animals have general intelligence: the ability to deal with a wide range of situations. Think about, for example, when you are in your basement, or you’re in your apartment somewhere, and something’s not working. An appliance isn’t working, maybe there’s a strange sound coming from somewhere. You may not be a plumber, you may not be an electrician, but you can at least get a sense of, “I think I know what’s wrong.” That’s a generalization, general intelligence.

    Today’s AI is very narrow intelligence. It is good at a few things—really good, for example at, say, language—but terrible at music, or not great at symbolic logic. Really good at math if it’s classical AI, not good at math if it’s generative AI.

    That narrow intelligence really limits what a tool can do because it can’t just adapt to new situations. It needs training, it needs prompting, it needs a lot of data to work with.

    We’ve been talking forever now about how to improve your generative AI capabilities using better and better prompts and different prompt structure things. With a general intelligence system, you wouldn’t need to prompt it as much.

    I always say in my keynotes, “Imagine generative AI like ChatGPT is the world’s smartest intern.” The intern is still clueless on day one. They don’t even know where the coffee machine is, and you’ve got to tell them how to do everything.

    An artificial general intelligence system would be, instead of hiring an intern, hiring someone with 500 PhDs. You’re hiring a senior executive with 500 PhDs, where they can be a lot more autonomous, they can be a lot more adaptable, they can apply knowledge across a bunch of different domains. In employment terms, it’s like laddering up. Okay, you’re hiring a manager now instead of an intern.

    That’s how to think about AGI. It does not necessarily mean Terminators, for example, or Commander Data from Star Trek. We’re not talking about sentient machines, although early, early conversation about AGI implied sentience. That’s not where these tools are going. Intelligence does not necessarily mean consciousness; there’s a difference between the two. You can have knowledge and capability in a system that isn’t alive. It’s not alive, it’s not aware, it has no agency.

    It is unlikely anytime soon we’re going to have alive, living systems, AGI systems, just because the compute power to do that is really, really, really expensive. It’s beyond what we can do today.

    So those are the three key characteristics of artificial general intelligence: it’s general, it’s flexible, it’s adaptable, and it is semi-autonomous in that it can make some decisions that constant human supervision. If you’ve watched recent Trust Insights live streams, we’ve shown how you write prompts that are semi-autonomous that can do a bunch of things that need to be told every single step of the way. AGI systems will be able to do more than that.

    Some other things that people get wrong about AGI: that whole idea of a super intelligence is pretty far away. The idea of a machine that is so good at everything.

    The reason why is because so much of what is real intelligence is rooted in more than just, say, language or images. You and I have vision, hearing, taste, touch, and smell. We have five senses. We have very, very complex brains that are billions and billions of neurons linked together into a massive parallel computer. That’s the thing we forget: this is a computer up here. This is a computer. It’s an analog computer; it’s biological, it’s electrical, it’s chemical, but it is a computer that has massive parallel processing. That complexity is how we have things like consciousness.

    Silicon computers, even though they’re very, very capable, don’t have the same parallelism. This device here can do crazy, crazy things, but its compute power is like that, like an ant, in terms of that parallelism.

    To build a piece of technology that has that much parallelism, you would need giant, giant data centers the size of, you know, city blocks and then some. Even then, the complexity of interlocking those systems is just so far away, so far away.

    There are pathways to get there, things like quantum computing, or bioneural computing. We have computers that have living tissue inside them, but we’re still far away from that.

    The whole idea of Terminator and Skynet—probably not likely. Again, without that agency, AGI is just more tooling. It will be very flexible tooling, but still just more tooling.

    There’s this belief that you’ll have a singularity. This is something that Ray Kurzweil talked about years ago, of a machine that is super intelligent and takes over the world—again, Skynet. Our current architecture doesn’t support that, and our current developments don’t support that. Could it happen? Sure, in theory, once you get to a machine that has agency of its own, but we’re really far away from that.

    So there are plenty of tools that have that are starting to get there, like ChatGPT, but in the next part, in part two, we’re going to talk about what that ladder of progression is. But we’re still pretty far away.

    So this is part one. Artificial general intelligence is a spectrum. It is something we’re trying to achieve: machines that can do general tasks with little to no additional training, very well, as well as a human being or possibly better. We’re not there yet, and we’ve got a long way to go.

    So stay tuned for part two. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll see you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button, subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already, and if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.


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