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  • You Ask, I Answer: Power of Large Language Models?

    You Ask, I Answer: Power of Large Language Models?

    In today’s episode, Anne asks how I see the power of large language models having the most utility. I explain what agent networks are and how they allow multiple AI models to work together. This coordination unlocks capabilities beyond any single model, like integrating search engines and workflows. Tune in for examples of agent networks in action and how they will transform productivity.

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    in today’s episode and asks when you mentioned large language models are more powerful than people imagine, in which ways do you see that power having most utility? And what excites you about that? Okay.

    This is in relation to actually a whole conversation that we had on threads, because I’ve left behind the dumpster fire that is the network formerly known as Twitter.

    And this was a discussion about large language models and in specific agent networks.

    So if you’re not familiar, an agent network in in AI language is when you have multiple language models working together.

    So if you think about chat GPT, for example, that is a single instance of a language model, you are talking to one instance of it, you ask a question, it gives you answers, it tells you jokes, it writes limericks, etc.

    You’re used to that, you know how to use that.

    And you know how to ask follow on questions.

    If you say write a limerick, and you’re like, Okay, well, that wasn’t funny.

    So let’s let’s revise it.

    There are systems, technologies out there that allow you to glue together language models along with other systems, probably the most well known one is a system called Lang chain, which is a scripted environment where you tie together multiple language models.

    So real practical example, you have one language model that is maybe writing a trashy romance novel.

    And you have a second model that reads the output of the first model and edits it says, well, that doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense or that’s misspelled or that doesn’t you know that there’s no coherence.

    And you have a third model that inspects the overall output saying, Look, there’s a there’s no narrative arc here, right? Yeah.

    You know, and and Suzy, me in Act one and the Suzy are dating in act two and Suzy are riding hot air balloons.

    It’s like, look, there’s the so that third model’s job is to inspect the overall arc and say, okay, model one, go back and try again, you know, girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl.

    Hot air balloons, huh? It should be girl meets girl, girl falls in love with girl girl breaks up with girl, girl gets back together with girl and so on and so forth.

    And so that’s an example of an agent network, you’d have multiple models controlled by the software called Lang chain, that would be interacting with the outputs in ways that one model can’t do on its own right in the same way that a software developer really should not be qAing their own code.

    A language model really should probably not be trying to edit as it writes, just like you know, if you read my friend and Hanley’s book, everybody writes, including AI writing and editing are different tasks, you should not be editing while you’re writing.

    And so you would either do that separately, or you hire an editor to edit your writing.

    That’s what an agent network is.

    It is multiple instances of language models doing different tasks in coordination with each other.

    And these are really, really, really powerful because they can also talk to other pieces of software.

    So Lang chain, for example, can talk to something like a selenium web driver, which is a fancy piece of technology that just browsers the web, it’s just a web browser that a computer uses instead of your eyes.

    So it doesn’t need the all back button and all this stuff.

    It just is a text based web browser.

    Systems like chat GPT, or Claude, or whatever, they can’t browse the web.

    chat GPT used to be able to but it turns out that people were misusing it.

    So they can’t do that anymore.

    Selenium, selenium web driver can, but it needs to be told what to do.

    So now in an agent network, you have a language model doing some generation that Lang chain can take that output, pass it to a selenium instance and say browse the web and bring back the text from that web.

    And then hand either hand it back to the original language model or pass to another language model and say, hey, interpret this and do something with it.

    You can see this at work in Microsoft Bing.

    If you use Microsoft Bing with its with its chat GPT integration, when you ask a question of Bing chat, watch what happens it will, it will take your question out of natural language.

    And the GPT form model will rewrite that question as a Bing query and that will pass that to Bing search engine, pull the results back from the search engine, pass it back to the GPT model to say rewrite this into, you know, coherent narrative text, and boom, there’s your answer.

    It’s not asking the GPT model for the answer.

    It’s asking the Bing search engine.

    So Microsoft has sort of glued together different components to make this this ecosystem.

    It’s the smart way to do large scale implementations of AI.

    So that’s the power of these systems.

    The models themselves are very powerful, but they’re really good at language.

    They’re not really good at other things.

    They’re not really good at search.

    They’re not really they’re definitely not good at math.

    And they can they can lose their memory over time because of all sorts of technical limitations.

    But they’re really good at language.

    So if you take something that’s really good at language and glue it to a database, or you glue it to a web browser, or you glue it to a chat client, or you glue it to a spreadsheet, you are now creating networks of systems that can interact with each other and develop capabilities that are beyond what any one component itself can do.

    Again, this is where Google duet and Microsoft Co pilot are going to really really unlock the power of these these language models because in Microsoft Co pilot, you’ll be able to be in a Word document and say, turn this into a PowerPoint presentation.

    The language model is not going to do that.

    The language model is going to take your input and the document and use and it’s going to write code because code is a language.

    It’s going to write code to pass to like Visual Basic Script or Python or whatever the backend languages that Microsoft uses that will then create the output.

    And so that’s how these tools get around their limitations of you know, the tasks that are not language like making PowerPoints.

    Writing code is a language and therefore, a language model can control PowerPoint or Excel or Word.

    So that’s where I see these tools having enormous utility in agent networks, as part of an overall computational environment that brings in all these heterogeneous systems, and the unifies them with language the same way we do.

    Right? That’s the secret.

    That is the secret.

    We do this already as humans, we use language, we have keyboards and mice and they type and where we talk, and we click on things on the screen.

    We are interacting with our software that exists today through language.

    So getting a machine to use the same style of communication is not really a stretch.

    And therefore, that’s what’s going to unlock productivity.

    And that’s really exciting, right? If you would get good at, at prompt engineering, or just prompting, let’s just call it prompting.

    And you understand how specific you need to be to get good outcomes.

    As language models find themselves into every single piece of software, and as agent networks spring up, you will be able to do more than any other, you know, colleague who’s not using AI, you’ll be dramatically more productive.

    I think Boston Consulting Group just did a study saying that people who use AI within their job were 40% more productive.

    Now keep in mind, companies are delighted to see that.

    And they’re excited, like out of their minds, they get a 2% increase in productivity in employees.

    So when you see 40% increase in productivity, that’s like, your head just explode, you know, money starts raining from the sky.

    That’s, that’s what’s exciting about this stuff.

    If you get on board and you get proficient at it today, you are paving a path for yourself to be the conductor of the orchestra, right, the leader of the world.

    And bags of money to join existing companies that want to retain their leadership in the face of a highly disruptive trend.

    So really good question.

    It’s there’s a lot we can explore on it, but it’s a that’s a good start.

    So thanks for asking.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Adoption of Generative AI and Impact?

    You Ask, I Answer: Adoption of Generative AI and Impact?

    In today’s episode, Paul asks how prepared organizations are for generative AI and its impact. I explain why most companies are still early in adoption and not ready for the transformation ahead. There’s an urgency to understand AI’s effects, but many lack the baseline knowledge needed. Tune in to hear my full thoughts on where companies stand and how leaders can get up to speed.

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    In today’s episode, Paul asks, Paul sent over really, really long thing.

    Paul is Paul Retser from Marketing AI Conference, the Marketing AI Institute.

    I said, one, the vast majority of organizations are just getting started with AI.

    Even those that have been using it for a while, we’re not prepared for generative AI and the transformative impact it’s having on any industry, every industry.

    To most organizations are still thinking about AI solely as a technology challenge, not addressing the significant near term comprehensive change management through the organization.

    organization three, there’s a lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, why leadership and many of these organizations lack even a baseline understanding of what it is, and the effects it’s going to have.

    What are your thoughts? Wow, there is a lot to unpack there.

    So let’s tackle this piece by piece because yeah, there’s a lot to talk about.

    Number one, the vast majority of companies are just getting started with AI with generative AI 100% true.

    Most companies don’t have a generative AI strategy.

    If they even have an AI strategy at all.

    And specifically, there’s a lack of process and governance around the use of generative AI within organizations, even something as simple as hey, are you even allowed to use this thing? So take something like chat GPT, that is owned and operated by a third party company called open AI.

    Open AI is not your company.

    If you copy and paste corporate data that is owned by your company into somebody else’s system, you are effectively giving them that information is being recorded as being logged, and it may be used to train models, or who knows what else you don’t know.

    So companies absolutely need to have some kind of standards about what tools you are and are not allowed to use.

    And that’s really important.

    And it’s not happening.

    Secondly, the transformative effect that Paul is referencing about generative AI is the effect of lay people, non technical people, people who do not code people who do not play with servers.

    And their ability to use AI tools, right? That’s the transformation, suddenly, everyone can you can open up chat GPT.

    And you can have a conversation with it as if you were talking to another person.

    Very often we talk about how it’s, it’s, it’s like an intern, a very, very smart intern that you have on your staff now that can do lots and lots of things, but you need to be very specific about your instructions.

    Most people are not ready to have an intern, right? Most people aren’t sure how to manage an intern.

    And so this transformation is a big deal.

    It’s a big deal that people aren’t ready for.

    So that’s part one.

    And I completely agree, most companies are not prepared.

    They’re still not prepared.

    And they’re not thinking about what this is going to do to their companies.

    If you check out this past week’s newsletter on the death of the hourly business, this there’s a lot of companies that are going to be adversely affected if they’re don’t get on board and figure out how to do value based billing, and then how to implement AI point to people thinking of AI as a technology challenge.

    100% agree with this.

    So at trust insights, we have a five part framework, purpose, people process platform performance purpose, what are you doing? And why people who’s involved process? What are the things that are involved that anyone process wise in your organization, platform is the technology and performance is the outcome.

    Did you did you get done what you needed to get done? People don’t think of AI as encompassing all of those, but you’ve got to, you’ve got to think about AI as it is a technology.

    But it is a technology that a lot of people can use in a lot of different ways.

    Throughout your organization, it’s not just a marketing tool, it’s not just a finance tool, it’s an everything tool in the same way that a spreadsheet is an everything tool, right? Every department in your organization can use a spreadsheet and most of them probably do.

    AI is the same thing.

    And no one’s thinking about how does this impact the organization as a whole? Change management is hard.

    Change management is hard because it involves that really, really complex system known as people, human beings.

    And when you have a transformative technology like AI that can just eat up tasks and radically change how you do business, you need to have a change management platform in place a change management system, a change management strategy to deal with everything that’s going to happen.

    And many of the the effects of AI still are not completely clear.

    This is another really important part.

    We are in the early innings of the AI game, if you will, we are seeing the technology evolve very, very, very fast, and in ways that we did not anticipate.

    And so people need to be very clear about what’s happening and be prepared to have lots of scenario planning.

    And who’s doing scenario planning about AI? Almost no one.

    Almost no one is doing any kind of scenario planning.

    And that’s really bad.

    Because when surprising things happen, you’re totally unprepared.

    So number two on on Paul’s questions.

    Agree, most people are not prepared.

    Number three, the lack of urgency to solve for the wider impact of AI, because people don’t understand what it is.

    Yes, I agree with that.

    I don’t know that is not just a baseline understanding that it varies based on the organization, the people we talked to, there are some people who think it, like, you know, the smartphone or the internet is a fad.

    And in fairness to those people, they have been plenty of technology based fads that have come and gone, right? blockchain and Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, we’re really hot for like a hot minute there.

    And then not so much.

    Things like clubhouse, the audio app was was like red hot for nine minutes, and then it vanished.

    And so folks who are in who are not in the AI space are probably looking at generative AI going, is this just another clubhouse? Are we going to be still be talking about this in three months? Or will we have moved on to something else? This is a transformative technology that changes how you work.

    And it changes how everyone works.

    And that’s what is going to make it much more durable than say, a cryptocurrency, a cryptocurrency, as an example, really difficult to use, right, you have to buy into it, you have to figure out the technology to buy into it, then you have to figure out what ecosystems even accepted as a form of currency.

    chat GPT, there’s a very low, very, very, very, very low barrier to entry there, which is sign up for a free account, and then start chatting.

    And the capabilities of large language models are such that they can be applied to just about everything.

    If it’s language based, it can be applied to it.

    So education is part of it.

    And so so is cynicism in the sense of tech trends that that come and go very quickly.

    So I think on that last point, it’s a mixed bag based on who you’re talking to.

    But there definitely is a need for more education.

    There definitely is a need for more understanding of the technology, the implications, the risks, the opportunities.

    If your company has not done an AI based SWOT analysis, you really should.

    You really should what are your strengths with regard to gender of AI? What are your weaknesses? externally? What are your opportunities? What are your threats? Are there competitors that are ahead of you in adoption? Are there competitors that are reaping productivity gains that you can’t see yet, but you’re like, huh, that’s weird, they seem to be cornering the market in specific ways that we can’t get what’s going on over there.

    And so having an understanding of the technology, and understanding the application of the technology, and then a sense of where your your competition is, is really important.

    And one of the things I think that everyone in every role in corporations should be doing at a leadership level to CFO, the CMO, the CEO, the COO, everybody who is has a leadership role should be attending events and conferences and things, just regular industry events, and just be listening, listening going, huh, I sat down that lunch roundtable, and everyone else is talking about AI.

    I wonder if we should be doing something I wonder if we’re behind, right? Or you sit down that table, nobody’s talking about AI, and you’re like, there’s a market opportunity here, no one else is paying attention to this thing.

    Maybe we could get a sizable competitive advantage.

    You don’t have to go to a conference, right? You can go on LinkedIn, and look at the profiles of your your peer competitors, and they’re their executive, their executives and say, Oh, look, you know, 20% of our competitors are talking about AI, and 80% they never mentioned it.

    That will give you a sense of the urgency that you need to adopt it, the and implement it and get get on board.

    Whether people want it or not, it is coming to every piece of software that there is.

    And we’ll talk about this later on, but is coming.

    And as a result, you need to have a strategy, a plan and a system of measurement to to make it work.

    So Paul, really good questions, as always.

    And this transformation is still in its early days.

    At the speed at which the technology is picking up from newer models, open sourcing, agent networks.

    It’s, it’s difficult to even look at the landscape now and try to see where it’s going, because it’s going so fast.

    But if even if you froze the technology to where it is today, that would still be transformative to every company.

    And the sooner people are on board with it, the sooner people are ready for it, the more benefit you will reap from it.

    So really good questions.

    Thanks for asking.

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  • Almost Timely News, September 17, 2023: AI And The Death of the Hourly Business

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    What’s On My Mind: AI and the Death of the Hourly Business

    What do most lawyers, accountants, PR professionals, marketing agencies, and consultants have in common?

    Their businesses are doomed.

    Okay, that statement probably needs some explanation. They all bill by the hour. These firms charge by how much time we customers consume of their talent. Lawyers at Big Law firms charge in 6 minute increments – and at anywhere from 350 –750 per hour. Marketing agencies and PR agencies bill by the hour as well; back when I worked at a PR agency, we all had to track our time down to the 15 minute increment and input that time into time tracking systems. That data then went to billing for clients, and the entire profitability of the agency was based on charging essentially 3x the effectively hourly rate of the employee. If you got paid 25 an hour, your bill rate to the customer was75.

    Believe it or not, this made sense in the old world. Hourly billing is never at cost because you have a lot of overhead. Your talent is never at 100% utilization – meaning that every minute of the day that your talent is working, they’re billing. And you have entire roles or even entire departments that still cost money but do not bring in money, like accounting, HR, etc. Even sales people don’t bring in direct billable time because they’re out selling, but they don’t service the accounts.

    So that business model worked really well for the last hundred years.

    No more. AI is about to Miley Cyrus the hourly billing model for white collar professional work billed by the hour and come in like a wrecking ball.

    Let’s look at a couple of examples. A while back, my company needed to have a particular legal agreement written, and we were billed for 10 hours of work by our law firm. That seemed fine at the time, and it was, the attorney did a fine job. We got what we needed to take care of business. Bill? 4,500.

    Not too long ago, a friend asked me for help with a similar legal agreement. She couldn’t afford a full attorney. What did I do, not being an attorney myself? I of course used generative AI to create the same document. It was quite good. I then took it to a different large language model and asked that model to check the first model’s work, looking for omissions and deviations from best practices. It found a couple of minor things, but nothing significant, and then the agreement was reviewed by a human attorney friend who gave it their blessing with no changes. (graciously, at no cost)

    Whoa.

    The agreement – written by machines – was reviewed by a human attorney with no changes.

    That is a big, big deal.

    How long did I spend on the task? About 15 minutes. That’s87.50 in billing if you go by the rate of 450 an hour. If I were that attorney we paid4,500 for the same amount of work, I’d be very, very concerned about no longer being able to bill that much based on time.

    Here’s a second example. At the aforementioned PR agency, we had a junior role called an account coordinator (AC). Despite the name, they didn’t coordinate much; what they did was grunt work, from photocopying stuff to taking notes on client calls to copying and pasting Google results into spreadsheets. I kid you not, on one team, there was an AC who copied and pasted Google search results for 40 hours a week. I would have clawed my own eyeballs out in that kind of role. (that’s not true, I would have automated my entire job and then just wandered around with a cup of coffee all day)

    The agency even had utilization standards for how much billable work each role was supposed to do. The staff roles were 100% utilization – every minute of work, they were supposed to be doing billable work. The managers were at 75%; 25% of the time, they were supposed to be doing non-billable work like helping out with sales, professional development for their teams, and generally trying to help their teams be more productive. The executives – directors and VPs – were at 50%. Half the job of those people was sales because there wasn’t a dedicated sales team, so half your day, half your week, etc. was supposed to be pitching new business.

    Many of the tasks that the staff level roles fulfilled – taking notes during meetings, writing press releases and content, copying and pasting stuff – those are all tasks that machines can and probably should do. There is no reason in the world for a human to manually transcribe a call now and then extract meeting notes from that call. None. Services like Otter can record the call and then with a large language model produce meeting notes and action items by speaker or team very easily. There is no reason for a human to write a generic, bland press release filled with self-congratulatory praise of a mediocre product or service. Machines can already do this better than humans, and even inject a little levity into it.

    Which means that account coordinator role, as well as the account executive and even senior account executive (the three staff roles at the agency) cannot possibly be at 100% utilization any more. There simply isn’t enough billable client work to go around when you use AI intelligently to streamline operational processes. The days of an account coordinator writing a press release, an account executive editing it, and a senior account executive proofing it are and should be over. A machine should write it, another machine should edit it, and a human should be the last set of eyes on it.

    And the task, which could take up to 8 billable hours – 4 for the coordinator at 125/hour, 2 for the account exec at150/hour, and 2 for the senior account exec at 175/hour – would now bill at 2 for a human’s final review. Let’s be generous and say the senior account exec would keep that task. Instead of billing1,150 to the client, as an agency owner, you could only bill $350.

    That’s a massive loss of billable time, more than enough to push an agency from profitable to unprofitable in a hurry.

    So how do we solve for this? How do we accommodate the usage of AI without destroying our profitability? We have to do this in two steps.

    First, if your company bills by the hour, you need to make the pivot to value-based billing immediately. Today. Perhaps even stop reading this newsletter and call a meeting of your senior leaders to do so. (Alan Weiss’ Value-Based Fees is an excellent read.) Value-based billing is where agencies should have been for the last 20 years anyway; the value of what you do isn’t how long it takes you to do it, but the knowledge and applied skill to do the task.

    A press release costs 1,000 not because it took 8 hours to do it but because you know what language to use to help that press release achieve its goals. Hell, your expertise is what helps you set those goals to begin with as a master practitioner of PR.

    An NDA costs4,500 not because it took you 10 hours to copy and paste a template and adjust it, but because you know the law and what clauses should or should not be in it. Do you need a data protection clause that’s GDPR compliant if a company does not do business in or with the EU? No. You know that as an attorney. You can tell the machine what to put in and what to exclude and let the machine do the heavy lifting.

    If you switch to value-based billing, how do you know what to bill? This is where the data you’ve collected thus far will help. You know from your existing data that on average, a general ledger review takes 12 hours and you bill that out at 2,400. Go through all your services, all your tasks in your current time tracking system and look for the median billing for that task. If you have a lot of anomalies, choose the measure of centrality that makes the most sense for your business, but in general you should be able to arrive at a sense of what any given task is worth just from the data you have on hand.

    Switching to value-based billing is the single most important thing you can do to protect your business from the impact of AI if you own or have responsibility for an hours-based business. When Katie and I started Trust Insights, we threw away the hourly model from the get-go because you’re not paying for time, you’re paying for the combined 50 years of unique professional experience we bring to the table. The old adage of a plumber charging you500 for the 5 minutes to fix your boiler because they know which part to fix holds true. Do you care how long it takes me to run an attribution model? No. You care that it’s right and it’s useful. Whether it took me an hour, a day, or a minute is immaterial to the purpose.

    That’s the first step. The second step, once you’ve switched to a value-based billing model, is to wholly embrace the use of AI everywhere that’s feasible within your business. Every task we’ve just discussed, every task that you’ve charged by the hour for, convert to use AI as much as possible.

    Wait, what? Didn’t AI just cause us to need to make massive changes to our business? Why would we embrace it?

    Because the changes it’s forcing on your business are universal, but the benefits it brings are not. Every hourly business will need to pivot to deal with the changes AI is bringing, but not every business will benefit from AI evenly. The business that goes all in will be more efficient, more effective, and more profitable than the business that dabbles or resists AI.

    Let’s get hypothetical. You have two PR agencies, one that embraces AI and one that doesn’t. Both switch to value-based billing and have a rate card that says a press release is 1,000. That’s your revenue. AI is now the X factor on the cost side. If you bill following the 3x rule, your cost per hour for a fully human process that takes 8 hours is383 for the account coordinator, account executive, and senior account executive to keep doing things the way they’ve always been done. Your ROI is (earned – spent / spent) so (1,000 – 383) / 383 or 161% ROI. That’s good.

    If you’re the business that adopts AI to do everything except the final pass, your cost for the two hours it takes for your senior account executive to do human review on the machine-generated press release is $116 (remember we are counting our cost, not what we used to bill this person at). Your ROI is (1,000 – 116) / 116 or 762% ROI.

    Which business would you rather be? The business that has 161% ROI or 762% ROI? You don’t need to be a data scientist to figure out that one. Moreover, the business with the 762% ROI has a lot more wiggle room to undercut pricing or do other things to capture market share because their expenses are just so much lower.

    This is what is coming to hourly-based businesses in every industry that has office-based hourly billing. Obviously, AI isn’t going to replace your plumber or other tasks that are in the physical world yet. But your language-based tasks, your white-collar professional tasks are all up for grabs by AI, especially with the most advanced systems today like LangChain-based AI networks. You MUST switch to value-based billing, and if you want a competitive edge, you should adopt AI every place you possibly can, as quickly as you can once you’ve made the billing switch.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How to Find AI Work at AI Companies?

    You Ask, I Answer: How to Find AI Work at AI Companies?

    In today’s episode, I share advice for new grads looking to work in AI – contribute to open source GitHub projects to showcase skills. Tuning public models with limited resources demonstrates aptitude. Participate in repos, do forks and merges to get on tech pros’ radar. Aim to attract big names by customizing models for industry use cases. Tune in for more tips on standing out in the AI job market!

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    In today’s episode, Alan asks, My son wants to work in AI as a new graduate, where can he go to look? That’s not obvious.

    Okay, so if you want to work at AI companies, honestly, most of them are starving for people as long as you’ve got a good CV that shows you know, you you have the appropriate mathematical skills or programming skills.

    Again, they’re they’re starving for people.

    And so the that’s that’s the obvious approach.

    I’m assuming your son’s already tried that equally obvious things like LinkedIn and networking, non obvious things would be where’s your son’s GitHub repo? Right? Where’s his GitHub profile? What stuff has your son done to build or customize or tune models? If you take something like some of the the GPTQ models that are the open source floating point 16 models? How can you quantize them down and provide them as a resource to the open source community? Because an awful lot of people who are looking at models and customizing and building these these open source models, they work in pretty big AI companies, right? They work in in advanced tech companies, because they have the resources to do stuff like, you know, the the requisite amount of time you need to have farmfold a 100 GPUs to do really advanced model builds.

    But with things like Laura, low rank adapters, and prompt fine tuning, you can you can do some level of tuning and customization that you don’t need a gazillion dollars worth of hardware for but it demonstrates that you know what you’re doing.

    It demonstrates that you know how to use these models, that you can tune them that you can build with them.

    You can do model merges and things.

    And that of course goes up on a site like GitHub and helps build a reputation like this is a person who knows what knows what to do, knows how to how to customize, look at different industries and different companies that he’s talked to and say, Okay, if I had a base model, a foundation model, like Facebook’s metas, llama to model, how could I tune that for common use cases, say in insurance, and build a a starter tuned model for that.

    It doesn’t have to be perfect.

    And doesn’t have to be, you know, even amazing, it just has to work.

    And it has to demonstrate that he has the aptitude that companies will be looking for to make those hires.

    And places like GitHub are one of the best if not the best place for technical talent to to network and be discovered.

    LinkedIn actually is is okay.

    But LinkedIn is not where the hardcore tech folks work like so if your son really wants to be doing the nuts and bolts of AI, GitHub is a much better place to be contribute to repositories, right contribute, do forks, do merges, do PRs, pull requests, do all that stuff within the developer ecosystem for AI projects to demonstrate that you can do the thing because on one hand, there is saying you can do something and you put it on your resume, you put it on your LinkedIn and stuff like that.

    On the other hand, there is just demonstrated evidence that you can do the thing like, hey, this is a ggf quantized q5 model that I that I custom tuned to do this task.

    That’s a lot more impressive, right? That is a lot more impressive than just saying that you know something about AI and LinkedIn profile when you can say here’s my repo, go check out the content and see if there’s anything you like.

    That’s what I would do if I really needed to get the attention of some of those super hardcore tech folks within the AI field.

    In the AI industry.

    I would be participating in their repos, I would be building my own I would be inviting other people to to look at the model merges I can make because if you’ve got a decent gaming laptop, you can do model merges and model fine tunes, at least with the open source products.

    And who knows if you come up with some way that provides a different kind of benefit or a different kind of optimization.

    You may catch the attention of some of the biggest names in AI.

    So that’s where I would go with that.

    It’s a it’s a good question.

    It’s an interesting question.

    And I hope the answer is helpful to you and your son.

    Thanks for asking.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Brand Impact of AI Content Creation?

    You Ask, I Answer: Brand Impact of AI Content Creation?

    In today’s episode, I discuss how using AI for content creation impacts brand image. It depends on your brand promise – if authenticity is key, AI could undermine trust. But for most, as long as content quality stays high, the source likely doesn’t matter. Know your audience through surveys. AI aligns with some brands more than others. Tune in for more on balancing AI and brand identity!

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    In today’s episode, Mel asks, What is the impact on our brand if it is known that we are using AI instead of humans to write our copy? It depends on your brand.

    If you are making claims that your brand is all authentically inhuman, and there’s no AI used and, and authenticity, human authenticity is part and parcel of your brand.

    Then yeah, you could see some negative impacts if people run a checker on your website says, Yeah, it looks like a lot of the content machine generated.

    On the other hand, if those things are not implicit is part of your brand’s promise, right? If you’re if your brand is maybe similar to to mine or Trust Insights, where you’re known for providing valuable information, who wrote it is less important than the fact that it’s valuable, whether machine wrote it, whether human wrote it, as long as the the audience is getting what they came for is getting what they wanted, then, yeah, it doesn’t really matter who wrote it.

    It does from a legal perspective, from a copyright perspective, there are issues with using AI generated output, namely, you cannot copyright it.

    But that’s not a branding issue.

    That’s a legal issue.

    What is your brand promise? What is your brand? Ze Frank, back in 2006 had a great expression.

    He said a brand is the emotional aftertaste from a series of experiences.

    And I love that definition is is such an apt definition of what a brand is because it is an emotional aftertaste.

    Part of those series of experiences.

    It might be depending on a brand, it might be contingent on human versus machine made content, it might not.

    Real simple example, if I go to the Department of Motor Vehicles website to renew my driver’s license, do I care who wrote the copy? No, do I care the copy is correct? Yes, so that I know what to show up with a you know, when I get to go to do my license renewal, I tried to do online, I don’t care who wrote it, I care that it’s correct that as a consumer, I’m getting the right information.

    If I’m reading sales techniques, you know, that might be something that requires more of a human touch.

    And so if you’re if your brand promise is all about the authentic art of selling, then yeah, you could you could see some negative impacts there.

    But there’s no one blanket answer here.

    You have to know your brand, you have to know your audience, you have to know what their interests are, you do have to consult with your legal department.

    But ultimately, it will be your audience that determines whether or not anyone cares that you’re using AI to generate copy rather than humans.

    There are knock on effects, which is important if your brand is all about supporting small business and and employees and stuff.

    There is an implicit belief to which is correct to some degree that AI can cost jobs.

    It absolutely can AI won’t take your job.

    But an employee who is skilled AI will take the jobs, plural of people who are not skilled at AI.

    And so the use of AI if you are a workers rights advocate, that could be a mixed message.

    And that could in turn arm your brand.

    If on the other hand, you are known as a ruthless, bloodless corporate, you know, corporate raider.

    Using AI would be perfectly aligned with your brand.

    There’ll be no question at all.

    Like, yep, that is consistent with their your brand.

    So it depends.

    It depends.

    If you have concerns, if you’re worried about about your brand and the use of AI, pull your audience survey your audience ask them, Hey, do you care if on it? You know, here’s a blog post, go read it, and then run a survey like did you care that a machine wrote this or not? And if people say no, I didn’t care, then you know that there probably won’t be much of an impact on your brand.

    If people see no, no harm in consuming content that was generated by machines, you’ve got to ask your audience, you’ve got to know your audience to be able to answer this question.

    But it’s a good question.

    It’s worth asking.

    Anyway, that’s the question.

    Thank you for tuning in.

    We’ll talk to you next time.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Using Generative AI to Make Money?

    You Ask, I Answer: Using Generative AI to Make Money?

    In today’s episode, I answer a viewer’s question about how retired folks can leverage AI to make more money. I explain that AI is just a tool, and provide examples of using it to optimize existing efforts or try innovative new business approaches. The key is to treat AI like a smart intern – provide enough details and it can analyze data, write content, and even suggest new income streams. Tune in for a full discussion on putting AI to work for you in retirement!

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    In today’s episode, Dan asks, I’m retired, what how can I use generative AI to make more money? Well, I mean, generative AI is nothing more than a tool, right? It’s no different than a word processor or spreadsheet.

    Yes, it has more capabilities, but it’s not magic.

    It’s just software.

    So the question is not how can you use it to make more money? The question is, what are you doing to make money that you could apply artificial intelligence to improve upon? There’s, there’s two fundamental things you can do with AI, right? One is optimize the things you’re already doing.

    And two is offer some innovative way to do business with you that doesn’t exist yet.

    Real simple example of the latter, if you have a website, and you have a like frequently asked questions page, you could train and tune a large language model to answer customer questions, right? Have conversations, things, it’s very simple, straightforward application.

    But it would be different than sort of the more programmatic chatbots people have been relying on in the past.

    For optimization, that’s where you can really get into things that will help you make money faster.

    So let’s say, just on a whim, that you have a burgeoning eBay business, right, you go around to yard sales, you buy stuff, and then you flip it on eBay.

    Writing the listings for stuff is a super simple example of how to how you would use generative AI to improve one, right, you would take the listings you have maybe write 10 to 15 to 20 different copy variations for different items you have for sale and see which ones resonate best track it carefully and see which one resonates the best.

    That’s a very simple application where you’re taking something that you already do, and improving on it on speed, perhaps accuracy or quality, and convenience, because the less time you spend doing those listings and writing stuff, the more time you have to go shopping at yard sales to find new new stuff that you can flip, or extending your marketing to include things that you’re not currently doing because you don’t have the time.

    Another example would be maybe your maybe your yard sale flipping businesses doing so well, that you want to, you want to stay engaged with your buyers.

    So you will start up an email newsletter, but you’re not sure what to write.

    Again, this is a case where you can use generative AI to create the draft copy that explains to your customers, hey, here’s the deals that I’ve found this week.

    These tools, treat them like really smart interns, really smart, maybe the junior most employee in your business.

    They don’t know anything about your business.

    They don’t know anything about this, your customers, you don’t tell them, but they’re very, very smart.

    So if you are detailed in what you tell them and how you tell them to speak and act do things, you can make them do incredible tasks that are huge time savers.

    Another example of how to how to use these things to make more money, as long as you’re comfortable with it, because you would be handing over sensitive information.

    You could take, for example, your an export from your bank of your personal finances, feed it into something like chat GPT is advanced data analysis tool and say, Hey, I’m trying to save more money every month, or I’m trying to spend less on on things I don’t need to spend money on.

    examine this ledger and tell me, help me categorize it maybe then tell me where I’m spending my money that I shouldn’t be that what do I need to cut back on and the tools can analyze the data and provide that analysis for you.

    So there’s all sorts of ways you can use these tools to do more optimization of things you’re already doing and potentially offer new, new services, new products and things like that.

    That would be my suggestions, particularly if you’re retired and you got time, you may not have a ton of money.

    So you’re probably not going to be training your own models at home, at least not right away.

    But you can use the off the shelf models to improve the stuff that you’re already doing.

    And frankly, if you’re looking for multiple streams of income, ask one of the the large language models, hey, I’m retired, here’s my situation.

    Here’s the things I like to do these things I don’t like to do.

    Here’s where I live and the economic circumstances around me.

    What are some other ways to to make money? See what it says? Again, these are very, very, very smart interns.

    So if you can just phrase the questions in ways that they understand, you can do very well and getting good answers out of them.

    So good question, interesting question.

    I hope the answer was helpful.

    Thanks for tuning in.

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    What’s On My Mind: The Future of Work in the Age of AI

    This week, let’s talk about the future of work in the age of AI. It’s a topic that’s been on the minds of lots of folks, from questions about jobs to how AI will impact productivity, to the nature of work itself. To dig into this topic, we need a foundational understanding of the impact large language models and generative AI have.

    Why is generative AI such a big deal? We’ve had AI in some form for decades. You’ve been using AI in some form for decades, from maps to get you to a destination on your smartphone to spam filters for your email. AI isn’t new in any way. Many of today’s theories and implementations of AI are based on theories and academic work done as far back as the 1950s.

    What’s different about generative AI – in particular large language models – is the language part itself. Language is foundational to our civilization, to our species’ ability to communicate intelligently to each other in a highly compact, highly efficient manner. We understand language not just as words, but as entire concepts wrapped up in little storage containers called words.

    Think about it for a second. How much information density is packed into a word we understand? If I say the word sunshine, how much is compressed into that single word? Images, perhaps moving pictures in your mind, a feeling on your skin – there’s so much nestled into the context of the word sunshine that it’s an incredibly efficient way to communicate a whole bunch of concepts at once.

    Because language is so information-dense, any kind of system that leverages and uses language well will communicate a lot of information in a very compact format – and that’s what generative AI and large language models do so well.

    Take the six word Hemingway poem as an example:

    For sale, baby shoes, never worn.

    There is so much to unpack in just that single sentence, and that makes language an insanely efficient knowledge compression mechanism. Even in cases when we’re not necessarily specific, language dramatically narrows down the field of information. If someone says “Chris is a jerk” unironically, that may not convey why Chris is a jerk, but it certainly removes a bunch of possibilities for the kind of person Chris might be, just with that single assertion.

    Okay, but what does this have to do with AI? Large language models are built with those same inferences, those same probabilistic assertions, and as a result, they use language like we do. That’s the single most important concept to understand. Large language models use language like we do.

    They learn language through context, just like we do.

    They remember things based on association, just like we do.

    They construct words and sentences in a predictive manner, just like we do.

    That in turn means we can communicate with them in incredibly information-dense ways (prompts) that create high-density outputs, outputs that convey a lot of information.

    So what does this have to do with the future of work? It fundamentally alters the equation of work itself, of the value created by the outputs of work – most of which for office jobs is language in one form or another. Think about how much you use language every single day, in every profession. Even jobs that are highly physical and non-verbal still use language in parts, from workers receiving instructions about what to do to reporting the results of work.

    The classic case that highlights this quandary is education itself. Large language models, with good prompting, arguably will write a better term paper on nearly any non-novel topic than any student will. The papers will be coherent, will be grammatically correct, will be well-structured, and generally will accomplish the task of ingesting a lot of information and then summarizing it from a certain point of view.

    Many schools and colleges have attempted to forbid the use of generative AI in schoolwork as a result. And this speaks to how fluent and capable the technology is; if the technology were as bad as critics claimed, then there would be no need to ban it.

    So the question is, what is the value of the task of writing a term paper? By extension, what is the value of the task of writing a blog post, a whitepaper, an email, some marketing collateral, a call center script, an investors report… the list goes on of things that are language, that we use language to communicate, and that machines could arguably do better.

    What is the value of work?

    Think about this carefully. Before the internet, we had to remember things. Once search engines came along, we didn’t have to remember nearly as much because we could use a search engine to find the information we needed, at the time we needed it. Did that make us dumber? Less capable? Poorer workers? Of course not. It made us smarter, more capable, and better workers because we could accomplish the same tasks but faster and better.

    Before smartphones, we had to work in prescribed locations, either in the convenience of an office or by lugging around a large piece of technology like a laptop computer to get work done. With smartphones and wireless networks, we can do more from wherever we are. Does that make us less skilled workers, less productive workers? Of course not. That would be a ridiculous assertion. Mobility enabled us to be far more productive workers.

    In both technology examples, we are still generating the outputs of work – language, in many cases – but we are enabled to do so faster, better, and cheaper by giving us capabilities we did not have. And this is the key to understanding the role of AI in every scenario. Each wave of technology has brought us closer to the work, faster at the work. But we were still doing the work. AI abstracts that away at a much greater level because now it’s doing a chunk of the work. It’s doing the summary, the extract, the first draft, and we’re polishing it to ensure it meets our standards.

    Schools that ban the use of AI are like schools that ban the use of smartphones. They’re doing their students an incredible disservice by handicapping them, by forcing them to learn to work in less efficient, less effective ways, and when those students – particularly higher education students – enter the workforce, they will be behind their peers who have had years of practice with the best tools available.

    Imagine you went to culinary school and your instructors forbade you the use of any electrical appliances. You had to do everything by hand – all the chopping, slicing, etc. You enter the workforce and while you conceptually know what a blender is and what it does, you’re not skilled with its use. You are inherently less employable than someone with the same time in education but more skilled with the tools of the trade.

    AI is a tool of the trade for every profession. That’s the crux of the issue. Generative AI and large language models are premier tools of the trade for every profession that uses language – which is pretty much every profession. I can’t think of a single profession where no one communicates with language.

    But that still doesn’t answer the question about what the value of work is, does it? If a machine can write a term paper or a blog post, and do a better job than we can, what is the value of work? The answer is that our value is in the asking. The machines can produce the answers, but they produce answers commensurate with the skillfulness of the question. If I prompt, “write a blog post outline about B2B marketing”, that’s not a particularly skillful prompt. The answer, the output will not be particularly skillful either.

    If I prompt, “You are an expert B2B marketer. You know lead generation, demand generation, scalability, marketing, market share, customer acquisition, customer retention. Your first task is to write a blog post about B2B marketing. The post should focus on the evolution of B2B marketing from analog to digital, from transaction to experiential, and from selling to helping. Be sure to cross reference key societal changes such as the Internet, the smartphone, and the dawn of generative AI and their influences on B2B marketing. Be sure to prescribe solutions for B2B marketers to remain effective in an era of constant change and deep uncertainty. Be sure to focus on lead acquisition as a key outcome in B2B marketing. Write in a professional, warm tone of voice. Avoid business jargon. Avoid business cliches and tropes. Avoid adverbs and passive voice. Write the post outline.”

    That is a much more skillful prompt. It’s a better question, and the answer the machine generates will inevitably be better. Try out both to see what the results are.

    Better questions lead to better answers. Better prompts lead to better outputs. Better ideas create better realities. That is the value of work, and that is the value we provide. A term paper that is just a regurgitation of existing information teaches very little except rote memorization. A machine can and should write that paper. But a term paper assignment that asks for deep synthesis, for novel thought, for making difficult or imperceptible connections is going to be a much more interesting read, whether written by human or machine.

    The people who are fighting AI on the grounds that it can’t be original or creative fundamentally misunderstand that AI is as creative as the person operating it. The institutions who want to prevent its usage – schools, workplaces, governments – also fundamentally misunderstand the role of AI in work is to replicate and extend our capabilities with language. Those who embrace the technology will dramatically outperform those who don’t, in the same way that those who embraced automobiles dramatically outperformed those still riding horses.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Influencing Large Language AI Models for Brand Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Influencing Large Language AI Models for Brand Marketing?

    In today’s episode, Jay asks, “How can we influence large language models to show our brands more favorably?” To accomplish this, you need a robust PR strategy to get your brand mentioned widely across the internet. I explain how language models work and why broad exposure is key to optimizing for them. Tune in to learn more about this important emerging strategy for marketing!

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    In today’s episode, Jay asks, How can we influence large language models to show our brands more favorably? So call this language model optimization or AI optimization, if you will, I should probably come up with a bunch of other phrases that I can get trademark.

    The answer to this question is challenging because it depends.

    It depends on the model.

    It depends on your domain, and it depends on your resources.

    Fundamentally, it’s important to understand that a language model is nothing more than a statistical database.

    It is a database of probabilities that one word is going to be followed by the next word or one word is going to be in proximity to another word.

    So for example, if I say, I pledge allegiance to the if you’re an American, you can’t you almost have this reflex to yell flag, right? Because that’s the next word.

    If you are English, you would say if I say God save the most people reflexively will still say Queen even though it’s now technically God save the king.

    Just because we have these statistical associations in our heads.

    And that’s what the language model is, it is a series of statistical associations.

    So what Jay is asking is how would you get a model to associate a brand with other phrases and words so that in natural conversation with a language model, your brand would naturally be invoked.

    That’s the heart of the question.

    And the answer to that question is, it’s really hard.

    It is really hard because these models are trained on essentially the public corpus of text on the internet, right? They are trained on things like common crawl, which you can go check out at common crawl.org.

    You can even download it.

    If you have six petabytes of disk space available, which most of us do not.

    That is the sum total the public crawlable internet and that’s how these models are built and trained.

    And so from a basic structural perspective, the way for models to associate your brand with your topics of choice is to have a lot of content all over the internet mentioning your brand and the topic of choice, right.

    So for most brands, particularly larger brands, this means you open your wallet and you hire the best PR team or the best PR agency you can possibly hire and you get yourself everywhere, right? Yes, absolutely.

    Go get that placement if you can in the New York Times, but equally important would be like the East Peoria sunset evening news, right? I’m making that up.

    From a reputation perspective, from a human perspective, obviously being in the New York Times is better more people read the New York Times than the East Peoria sunset news.

    But from a language model perspective, the amount of text in a New York Times article versus an East Peoria sunset news article is probably about the same.

    And so having 100 local newspapers covering your brand from a statistical representation perspective is better than one article in say, the New York Times.

    Now, obviously, there’s there are many human reasons why you still want to be in the New York Times.

    But what this means from a PR strategy is you want to be everywhere.

    You want to be everywhere you can possibly be scale as much as you can to to build your brand and be in every podcast as long as they put up transcripts be on YouTube all over the place, make sure transcripts are getting loaded to YouTube, closed captions that have the words properly in there.

    You want to be on Instagram, you want to be on anything public, you want to be on Reddit, because Reddit is crawled like crazy, you want to be in Wikipedia, anywhere that your brand can be that had that will have the statistical associations of the topics you are about.

    You want that out on the internet and you want a lot of it.

    Now this is again, this is a change from normal PR strategy.

    Normal PR strategy breaks media up into like tiers, what tier one tier two, tier three, and more value is placed on the tier one publications, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, CNN, whatever.

    In the language modeling space, it’s all the same.

    So if you can get 100 articles about yourself in tier three media, and you get none in tier one media, that’s okay.

    That is perfectly okay, because you are still getting that data out there where it is then crawled by language model companies and assembled and built into their language model.

    And so it’s it’s a bit of a flip.

    But that’s how you would do that.

    That’s how you would influence these things.

    Now.

    Again, bear in mind, these are trained on the public corpus of data about the internet.

    You’re gonna have to spend a lot of money to this a lot of money, if you wanted to influence it, because you need to be a lot of places, a lot of the time.

    And that costs big dollars that that costs big dollars to pull that off.

    But if you can do it, it’s very, very difficult for anyone else to take that mind share because you’re everywhere.

    For brands that don’t have a gazillion dollars to spend on on PR company like Trust Insights, for example, having an open policy like, hey, we will show up as guests on any podcast that will have us have it having a policies we’re gonna blog every single day, whether we need to or we mean it or not.

    Having policies as yes, we’ll guest blog anywhere that will take us to the extent that you can do those things and get your brand and your topics associated in text on the internet, you will do better than a company that’s not in terms of what the language models will see.

    We are also seeing things like the way Microsoft Bing works and way Google’s search generated expense experiments work where they are pulling from traditional SEO databases, traditional search databases.

    So when you ask a big question, it does not ask the GPT for model for the answer.

    It asks the GPT for model to write a Bing compatible query that it can then go and search a database for.

    So traditional SEO still really important, because it looks like more and more that’s the way the big public models are going to be generating fresh information, they will talk to, you know, the traditional search engine, get the text out of the search engine search engine and then rewrite it into a conversational tone for for chats.

    So you want to make sure that you are investing heavily in SEO so that you are in those databases favorably.

    At the end of the day, you want to be everywhere, everywhere you can be.

    And the nice thing is, if we’re wrong about this, and this isn’t how to influence LLMS, you still win, right? Because you’re still in publications, people are reading, you’re still in, you know, in the news, you’re still all over the place.

    And so you still win one way or the other.

    But it’s a really good question.

    It’s an important question.

    And it’s, it’s good for marketers to be thinking ahead now, how do we influence these models in the years to come? Because as time goes on, they will get more complex, they will get more skilled, they will get more knowledgeable.

    And the early movers, the early adopters will have the advantage people who have more text on the internet today than a competitor will do better in language models tomorrow.

    Great question.

    Thanks for asking.

    Talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Will AI Get Worse Reading AI-Generated Content?

    You Ask, I Answer: Will AI Get Worse Reading AI-Generated Content?

    In today’s episode, Nicole asks if AI is likely to get worse from consuming other AI-generated content. Surprisingly, studies show AI-generated content actually improves AI models. The reason is AI generates content based on statistical probabilities, resulting in above average quality. This means training on AI content lifts overall data quality. However, we must be cautious of potential drawbacks. We’re still in the early days of understanding this complex issue. Tune in to learn more!

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    In today’s episode, Nicole asks, Is AI likely to get worse if it’s reading and consuming other AI generated content? The answer is, surprisingly, no.

    A recent new study came out that showed how AI trained on other AI output actually generated better output than a model trained solely on human generated content.

    There’s an attention getter, right? Why is this the case? How did this happen? What does it mean? Here’s the thing about AI generated content versus human generated content.

    Remember that when a large language model and we’re speaking about language here, when a large language model is generating content, it is generating content based on statistical distributions based on probabilities.

    When a model searches for the word cat and understands all the different potential meanings that surround that, or the word pizza, and all the potential things that surround that and it starts assembling probabilities for what the likely next word is going to be.

    It’s doing that from a huge library of knowledge, but it’s assembling the top most probable words and phrases.

    There’s actually if you dig into the guts of a language model system, you will see there these are actual variables you can set how many optimum choices to evaluate, etc.

    Which means that the language model output that is generated will be in a mathematical average of the probabilities that it finds right.

    It will be by definition average content.

    However, depending on the specificity of your prompts, and how much background information you provide with your prompts, and what the specific topic is, that average of a very small subset of its language database may actually be quite high.

    It may be quite good, right? If the prompt is really good, you’re going to get a good result.

    That good result is then used to train another AI system.

    By definition, you are training on better than average content.

    Compare that to the internet as a whole, right? You look at the spelling and grammar and and language used on places like Reddit, and you’re like, mmm, do we really want machines learning to talk like this? Right.

    So when machines are being trained on other high quality machine outputs, they are going to lift the overall quality of the data set.

    Because there’s more content that is higher probability, good quality within that database.

    And so it will naturally cause it to bump up.

    Now, does that mean it is better content? It depends.

    It depends on again on the prompting structure and things like that you can get a monoculture of ideas as a result of AI training on other AI generated content, right, you can sort of get that Ouroboros, the snake eating its tail thing.

    But the quality in terms of grammar, spelling, punctuation, coherence, perplexity, etc, is just going to be naturally higher when you have good quality AI outputs added to the human training data set.

    So it turns out from a mathematical perspective, the opposite is true AI is going to get better with AI generated content in the mix than with purely human content alone because of the nature of the mechanisms themselves.

    Now, is that always going to be the case? We don’t know it depends on how much content goes out there that is AI generated and how good it is how good the prompts are how clean the output is because there are certainly no shortage of people who are cranking out bad AI content just like there’s no shortage of people had cranking out bad human content.

    But from a a basic structural perspective, the materials generated by AI will naturally be statistically better than average, slightly better than average.

    So it’s an interesting question.

    It’s a very challenging situation right now for content creators.

    But we do have now academically researched proof that AI generated content certainly isn’t going to make AI worse at generating content and may make it better.

    So really good question.

    There’s a lot more to uncover here.

    We are in the early days of understanding how machines trained on machine content will interact and what they will do their early days.

    So thanks for the question.

    Talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact B2B Buying Process?

    You Ask, I Answer: How Will AI Impact B2B Buying Process?

    In today’s episode, Tim asks how B2B marketers should prepare for AI’s impact on the buying process. The key is strengthening your brand, establishing direct outreach channels, and building algorithm-free communities. Brand building will ensure your business stands out statistically. Direct channels like email newsletters keep you top of mind. Private communities on platforms like Slack foster meaningful connections. As AI tools continue to evolve, creatively implementing these strategies will help you stay competitive. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution, so stay nimble. Tune in for more insights on thriving amidst AI disruption.

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    In today’s episode, Tim asks, How should B2B marketers be thinking about how AI will impact the buying process? This is a big unknown.

    This is a big question mark, because we don’t know what form AI will take when it comes to impacting the buying process when it comes to helping people buy stuff, particularly your traditional B2B buying process where there’s a lot of decision makers, where there are a lot of stakeholders.

    What we do know for sure, is that machines are already doing a good job of summarizing things, right? We see this in search generative experiments within Google, we see this with Microsoft Bing, we see this, of course, with chat GPT.

    And what the machines are doing is summarizing things being able to summarize and distill down content and then provide comparisons, right? If you go to Bard or Bing or the search generative experiments, you can say, Hey, what are the major features of this software versus that software of this company versus that company? And in asking those questions, it’s going to draw from the data it has the content that it knows, and then assemble essentially a short answer.

    And so with summarization with extraction, with rewriting, these tools are essentially sort of they’re making it easier for the end user to do comparisons, they’re making it easier for the end user to wade through all of the marketing copy that we write, and turn it into shorter, more digestible content.

    That also means is rewriting our stuff.

    And that means in turn means that if there’s a particular way or voice that we speak with, that’s probably going to get lost along the way.

    So how should we be thinking about it? We should be thinking about a few different things.

    First, you do want to make sure that you’re building your brand, brand is going to be the one of the most, if not the most important thing that you can do as a marketer, B to B, B to C doesn’t matter in the age of AI, you need to have a strong brand because as AI engines become the standard as they become the way that people get information, they may not necessarily introduce you in an unbranded search, if someone’s looking for marketing and management consulting firm, they might not introduce trust insights by name unless our brand is so strong, that there’s a statistical significance to our brand plus the target concepts that we want to be known for.

    Here’s a way to think about it.

    If you were to ask a language model about a topic, it’s going to return the most statistically relevant bits and pieces of words about that topic and we’ll assemble it into coherent text.

    So if you’re entirely about, you know, pineapple on pizza, and that’s a sufficiently large enough topic that you are known for, then when someone puts in pineapple and pizza, they’re going to get a response that will probably include you.

    If you are not statistically relevant enough, if you don’t have enough presence in all the training data and all the texts that are out there on the internet, you won’t show up.

    So you’ve got to build your brand, build your brand by being everywhere, do as much as you can to be as many places as possible within the resources that you have available to you.

    So that’s one.

    Two, you need to have a way of reaching customers that is not mediated by AI.

    That typically means something like email, your email marketing, right, your email newsletter, if you are not sending out an email newsletter on a regular and frequent basis, you are, you are asking to be forgotten.

    If you can, and I know it’s it’s a lot of work.

    It’s a lot of work for me.

    It’s a lot of work for Trust Insights.

    We send out a weekly newsletter, I sent out a weekly newsletter of my own on Sundays, the company sends one out on Wednesdays.

    It’s a lot of work to put that together.

    But that weekly cadence keeps people remembering who we are.

    Monthly, not often enough, people forget and do you remember the number of companies heard from the last month? I don’t.

    And obviously, the email content has to be valuable, but email, text, direct mail, magazine subscription, anything where you can get your message to your audience in an intact format in a way that is not easy for a machine to rewrite is not easy for a machine to summarize that is not easy for a machine to aggregate and lump you with all of your competitors together, right, just a direct channel to your customer.

    And number three, you absolutely positively need to have some form of non AI mediated communities.

    So that means things like slack, for example, or discord, having a community in one of those places where chronological timeline, private place, no AI in the way.

    So not Facebook groups, not LinkedIn groups, because those are AI intermediated, and you are competing for attention with all the other stuff that’s in those algorithms, you want to have a community experience that has no algorithm has no algorithm.

    And there are, you know, plenty of other software packages out there that in B2B that people are trying to get up and running.

    But the one I would tell people today, the best platform built on his discord, and I’m not paid to say that.

    But that’s the sort of the three big things brand publication community, you’ve got to have those three pillars to impact the buying process and sidestep the impact of AI.

    Or in the case of brand make it work for you.

    It is going to be very challenging, very challenging for us as marketers to, to stand out from the crowd in an age of AI in an age of instant summarization, instant aggregation, instant comparison, in a way where what we think are our unique selling points may not be communicated by the summarization engines that that AI search tools are using or the AI knowledge bases using, we may not be we may not get that opportunity.

    So we’ve got to build our brand.

    So we’re known for something, we’ve got to have a direct line to our customers and our prospects.

    And we’ve got to have a community that is has no algorithms at all, so that we can, in, in essence, get a hold of people when we need to.

    So that is, that is the the answer to that question for today.

    At the time of this recording.

    Things may change, things may change a lot.

    It’s unclear what will change.

    But stay tuned because as soon as I know, I’ll let you know.

    Thanks for tuning in.

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