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  • Fireside Chat: Music and AI, Part 1: Defining Music in the Age of AI

    Fireside Chat: Music and AI, Part 1: Defining Music in the Age of AI

    In today’s episode, we’re diving deep into the world of music and AI. You’ll join me and composer Ruby King for a fascinating discussion about what music is in the age of artificial intelligence. You’ll learn what makes music “good” and explore the capabilities of AI in creating it. Tune in to discover how AI is changing the landscape of music composition and what the future holds for this exciting intersection of technology and art!

    Fireside Chat: Music and AI, Part 1: Defining Music in the Age of AI
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    Christopher S. Penn – 00:01
    In this five-part series on music and AI, filmed at the 2024 Marketing AI conference in Macon, I sit down with composer Ruby King to discuss AI music and the future of creativity.

    Christopher S. Penn – 00:12
    This is part one, defining music in the age of AI.

    Christopher S. Penn – 00:17
    Alright, so who are you and what do you do?

    Ruby King – 00:21
    Hello, I am Ruby. I’ve just graduated studying music and music with psychology at the University of Southampton. I specialized in composition and writing music. I play violin, viola, piano, and I sing, although I mostly focus on composing music.

    Christopher S. Penn – 00:41
    Okay, so I’m sure you’ve seen and heard that generative AI can simulate music. Let me start with this: how do you know what is good music and what is not?

    Ruby King – 01:00
    The trouble with that question is it’s so subjective that you always come down to the answer that is really very annoying: it depends. It depends on who you are as a person because what I like as music is very different to what you like as music. To be fair, it’s well-covered, but that’s not because what you listen to is bad music. It’s just not the music that I choose to listen to on a regular basis. It stresses me out. I like to listen to slightly more calming things, but that’s not because when I’m listening to yours, I’m thinking, “This is terrible music.”

    So it really heavily depends. I suppose when I’m listening, I’m sort of looking for something that makes me want to listen to it — so originality, creativity. If there’s something in a piece that I don’t particularly find terribly interesting, but then suddenly there’s a key change or something that happens, then usually that makes — in your brain, you sort of think — this is more interesting, this is better. So there are lots of different things that can contribute to being good music, but there’s no way to actually say, “This is good and that is bad,” and anyone that tells you otherwise has a very high opinion of themselves.

    Christopher S. Penn – 02:17
    Okay, well then let’s get even more elementary. What is music?

    Ruby King – 02:27
    That is such a broad, terrible question that the answer is always, “I’d rather be answering deep philosophical questions than what is music?” Because it means so many different things to different people and different cultures. We can get so bogged down in the western world — “Oh, it’s only music if it’s organized sound in a set way that uses this sort of set scale.” But then you’re completely ignoring other cultures where, when you listen to it, it is absolutely music, and it’s not for us to say it’s not music.

    We’re kind of trying to define it by the set rules that we have sort of told ourselves it has to be. So, music is whatever you want it to be. Okay. Just the easiest way to answer it.

    Christopher S. Penn – 03:06
    Okay, that’s fair. We should probably turn the lights on. Would help. And let’s turn on this one, too, because we have it. We brought it, we may as well use it. You can turn on a party mode.

    Ruby King – 03:25
    Please don’t.

    Christopher S. Penn – 03:26
    There we go. That’s better. Yeah. Alright. Look at that lighting. So when it comes to AI, the way that today’s models work — particularly services like Suno and Mubert and stuff like that, and Jukebox — we have more primitive services like AIVA. They are all using a type of model called transformers. What transformers do is they take in a lot of examples and try to say, “Okay, well, what is the next likely thing going to be based on everything that’s occurred so far?” So if you have a sentence, “I pledge allegiance to the,” the next highest probability word in that sentence is going to be “flag”.

    It’s unlikely to be “rutabaga”. “Rutabaga” would be an interesting sentence for sure, but it’s not the highest probability by a long shot. And so, when model makers train these models, they basically take in huge amounts of data — typically from YouTube — and they say, “This is what a pop song is, this is what a rap song is, this is what a country music song is.” And therefore, when a user requests a pop song about this, it’s going to go into its knowledge, try to say, “Okay, well, these are the conditions that the user set up — tempo, or major key, or piano and strings — associate those words with the training data it’s had, and then try to assemble what it thinks that would be.” Typically, these services will do this behind the scenes in 32nd increments, and then they stitch it all together.

    When we listen to a piece of this synthetic music, it is all high probability, which means that, absent the ability to tune the model yourself, you kind of just have to deal with what you’re given. So let’s listen to an example of a piece of music. This is one that is from — I attempted to make something with the lyrics in Google’s Gemini first, and then use Suno to compose. This is it.

    Speaker 4 – 05:51
    Empty echoes in the night searching for a human touch in a world that I see.

    Christopher S. Penn – 06:04
    Like a dream.

    Speaker 4 – 06:07
    Come no one ever found metrics crumble lose the hole empathy story must be told and the warnings gently died.

    Christopher S. Penn – 07:29
    Okay, so what did you hear there?

    Ruby King – 07:32
    Okay, well, first of all, it sounded pretty bland. But when it came in with — rocksteady, I think that was it —

    Christopher S. Penn – 07:40
    Yeah. Okay.

    Ruby King – 07:41
    — the first time, it’s one of those times when you go, “Oh, something’s changed,” but it’s not in a bad way, because sometimes when something changes, it’s not something that you’re, “Oh darn, that.” But that was — it kind of had, kind of paused, and then it went off. And that is very different to what AI was doing not too long ago because it wasn’t really doing the, “Oh, hello, wait a minute” kind of things. So when I’m listening to that, I’m listening to the things that change. Because if it’s just — this is because it’s got a — I think it’s a four-bar phrase that then repeats, and that’s very typical of music. That’s what you’re told to do. If you have something you want to be the melody, reuse it. If you don’t reuse it, no one’s going to remember it.

    And it’s not something we want to listen to if it’s not repeating itself, at least a little bit, usually. Okay, so with that, it is doing what’s expected to quite a high degree. The qualities of the vocals are a —

    Speaker 4 – 08:40
    — different question.

    Ruby King – 08:43
    — especially when it was without words. It doesn’t quite know what to do. It’s an interesting experience, but I’m sure it’ll improve, and that’s not quite the point. The drums are very heavy, and I suppose for the genre, it sounded about right. That’s not my specialty, that particular genre. It’s not one I listen too much to either. But when I am listening, it’s generally the things that — okay, it’s set out that it wants to do this, but in what ways is it going to branch out and make this more interesting for the human listener?

    Christopher S. Penn – 09:17
    What are those things that make it more interesting to a human listener?

    Ruby King – 09:19
    Okay, so those can be key changes. That can either be a sudden key change or one that’s kind of built up into — both can be satisfying, but it depends how it’s done. Also, if any time signature changes because that can change the feel of the song, and also, usually the rhythm of the words can just give it a different feel. And that can be interesting, but can also be done badly. All things can be done badly, but if it’s done well, it’s satisfying. Rhythm, tempo — if anything, any changes, really, because a lot of AI can be — and some — a lot of human-written things can be — I have set about, “I like these eight bars. I’m going to use these eight bars again, and then I’m told I have to have a bridge.”

    So there’s something I’ve written, and then I’m back to this, and this is by the template. So this is good. It might be, but it always depends how it’s done — if there’s any, what kind of creativity you’ve gone for. Have you explored it? Have you had a go at something and decided it didn’t work and gone with something else? Is there some kind of originality where the listener’s going, “Oh, I like this. This is good.” And even if you don’t know what that is, that’s fine, but it’s still something that is there that the composer, or whatever has written it, has done.

    Christopher S. Penn – 10:44
    Okay, is that music?

    Ruby King – 10:46
    I would say that’s music.

    Christopher S. Penn – 10:47
    Okay, is it good music? Is it technically proficient? Because obviously there’s a difference. I don’t like Indian food, but I can differentiate between technically proficient, prepared Indian food and poorly made. Okay, they both taste bad, but they taste bad in different ways.

    Christopher S. Penn – 11:05
    Yeah.

    Ruby King – 11:08
    It’s not great, but it is certainly a lot better than when it was sort of, “Oh, it’s rubbish.” It’s now kind of, “Oh, okay, this could be playing, and someone might notice if the singing was done by a human or in a more satisfying way.” Because I have heard better voices than that if the voice — because the thing is, as humans, we are very good at being able to pick out when something sounds human. So even in an orchestral setting, we’re taught that if you’re going to write music for a TV show or something, or just cinematic music, or with an orchestra, if you’re going to write it on Logic Pro with lots of music samples, then in order to make it sound realistic, you need to manually go through and try and change the level of expression that you have — if it’s an expensive enough kit to do that.

    And also, if you have just one violin that’s actually recorded live doing the same line as all the other violins, then the slight bit of human error can fool the human ear into thinking the rest of it is also by humans. I always find that really cool.

    Christopher S. Penn – 12:24
    Interesting.

    Ruby King – 12:25
    Yeah.

    Christopher S. Penn – 12:26
    So if you had, say, a stochastic generator in AI, which is basically a randomness engine that intentionally introduced small errors into what the AI produced, it would be more convincing to the human ear.

    Ruby King – 12:41
    Yeah. So in Logic Pro itself, you have — when you’ve got the drum generator or any kind of thing — you can go into the tempo bit, flux tempo — I can’t remember the exact. I think it’s flux time or something. And there is a setting where you can — I can’t remember if it’s called swing or if it’s — it’s something along on the left-hand side where you can drag it along, and it will just set stuff off ever so slightly from the exact beat it’s meant to be on. Because if you tell it to do the exact beat, it’s correct, but it’s not how a human would play it. Not because we’re terrible at music, it’s —

    Christopher S. Penn – 13:15
    — just because it’s so precise that it can only be machine-made.

    Ruby King – 13:18
    Yeah. When you hear a metronome, it’s not someone behind it all —

    Christopher S. Penn – 13:21
    — going —

    Ruby King – 13:24
    — it’s a machine, whether that be a mechanical one or a computer doing that for you, and that’s fine. And we use those to stay in time with them, and that’s perfectly fine. But if you want something to be human — when on a violin, it’s more obvious on a violin than it is on a piano, maybe, because on the violin, there’s a lot more slides between notes and things you can do there. Vibrato. Sometimes string scratches, although they’re not always intended, the sound of them makes you think, “Oh, but this is real. This is actually being performed.” Because so much of music in television, especially because there’s barely any budget for the actors, let alone the music, so much of it is just, “Here’s a bunch of stock libraries, do the best you can.”

    So by just putting in a little bit of human stuff into it and making the EQ and reverb sound like it’s in a concert hall and ordering the things in a way that you’re used to hearing it, all of these things can contribute to making it sound more human. And I think if AI starts going into trying to actually make it sound like it is human or having the voice sung by someone else, or just little bits changed, it would start sounding a lot less like it’s packaged off the Tesco shelves or Walmart. I don’t know.

    Christopher S. Penn – 14:47
    It’s interesting, though, because you’re saying in many ways that the imperfections define humanity.

    Ruby King – 14:54
    Yeah, because we’re not perfect, but music isn’t designed to be perfect. There are so many different things about music, so many different ways that you can do things. When you are writing it, you write it in a way that you enjoy, but it’s not necessarily a way that other people will enjoy. And sometimes you can add imperfections on purpose, and that becomes part of the piece. So long as you say it’s intentional, then you get away with it.

    Christopher S. Penn – 15:20
    Okay. But a machine can’t just make random mistakes.

    Ruby King – 15:28
    No.

    Christopher S. Penn – 15:30
    So how do you make random, not random mistakes?

    Ruby King – 15:36
    I suppose it helps if you say that the mistakes can’t be huge ones.

    Christopher S. Penn – 15:40
    Okay.

    Ruby King – 15:41
    If the singer’s just going way off-key, then I will shut my laptop and throw it across, and I win. But no one wants to hear that. That’s not —

    Christopher S. Penn – 15:50
    It’s like the people at drunk karaoke — “Wow, that’s awful. Someone should tear gas these people.”

    Ruby King – 15:56
    Yeah. It’s sort of — within reason. If you go to a concert from an artist you love and they start singing terribly, you aren’t going to be there, “Oh, but it’s the person I love. It’s all great and fine.” You’re going to be, “Why aren’t they putting effort in for the show I’ve come to see? I know they can do better than this. Are they actually just auto-tuning themselves the whole time? I feel really let down.” So there’s — we do have auto-tune, and that is used so much.

    Christopher S. Penn – 16:27
    Hence why the machine voice sounds like that.

    Ruby King – 16:30
    The machine sounds worse because, with auto-tune, it’s still a human inputting it. But that kind of sounds like two people put together in a blender screaming. It sounds like there’s two different lines at the same time but still the same person, and it’s just really confusing listening to it. How can — because you’re always trying to — you’re sort of trained to go, “Okay, well, how is this recorded?” And with that, you’re kind of going, “I have no idea how they managed to make that sound unless it was just put through a machine that was intended to make this noise.” So it doesn’t sound realistic at all. But a lot of people don’t care about that.

    But then it’s still subconscious that when you hear stuff — there have been psychological studies — when you hear stuff that isn’t right or isn’t human, then you kind of know anyway, whether it matters to you or not. It’s still in the back of your mind that you can kind of recognize that.

    Christopher S. Penn – 17:30
    Okay, that concludes part one.

    Christopher S. Penn – 17:33
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    What’s On My Mind: Next Generation AI Models

    At the start and end of the 2024 Marketing AI Conference (MAICON), Paul Roetzer and team asked these ten questions:

    • How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?
    • How will generative Al model advancements impact creative work, and creativity?
    • How will consumer information consumption and buying behaviors change?
    • How will consumer changes impact search, advertising, publishing, etc.?
    • How will Al-related copyright and IP issues affect marketers?
    • How will Al impact marketing strategies and budgets?
    • How will Al impact marketing technology stacks?
    • How will marketing jobs change?
    • How will Al impact agencies?
    • How will Al impact brands?

    Each of these questions is practically a book unto itself, so over the next few pieces of content, we’ll tackle some of them. Every person will and should have their own answers to these questions – your answers should vary from mine based on how you use AI.

    So let’s dig (I should start using delve unironically) into the first big one:

    How will the next generation of Al models affect you, your team and your company?

    Part 1: What is a Next Generation AI Model?

    The first big part of the question we have to tackle is what constitutes a next generation model. What exactly does this mean?

    Today’s models fall under two fundamental architectures: transformers and diffusers. Transformers predict the next token in a sequence based on all the previous tokens. Diffusers essentially compare noise to images they’ve already seen and chip away at the noise until they arrive at a blend of whatever the prompt is.

    After the release of OpenAI o1, many people are talking about the next generation of models as reasoning models, in alignment with the march towards artificial general intelligence, the ability for AI to be smarter than people at any given task. That’s certainly one dimension of next generation models, but not the only one.

    What is reasoning, and why do we care? Today’s models, when naively prompted, do not do anything more than they’re told to do. Give them a simple prompt, they generate a simple answer. New models like o1 have a certain type of reasoning, known as chain of thought (aka “think things through step by step”) built it, as a way to get generally better results out of AI that require thought.

    An interesting side effect of “reasoning” pointed out by my friend Ruby King is that reasoning is only applicable to some tasks. Others have noted, for example, that o1 is producing better reasoning but less creative writing. This makes logical sense; reasoning is all about finding logical steps to solve a problem. Logic inherently involves some level of probability.

    Creativity, in many ways, involves the antithesis of probability. What makes something creative is often something low probability. A piece of music that is made entirely of high probability notes is boring and uninteresting. A piece of music that has surprises in it – key changes, tempo changes, things that are less common – is more interesting.

    That’s one dimension of a next generation model – foundation models may split into different types of cognitive tasks. Some models may have more creative outputs at the expense of logic, and others may have the reverse.

    But that’s only one dimension. Other next generation models may ford significant gaps in today’s model capabilities. For example, transformers and diffusion models don’t work well together. If you’ve ever tried to make a slide deck with generative AI, you know what a frustrating and ultimately fruitless task that is.

    Why? Because transformer models – predicting the next word, effectively – are fundamentally different than diffusion models, which predict what pixels should be nearby based on words in the prompt. The net result is that you either get slide decks that are all words, or you get clip art slides that are trite and meaningless.

    On top of that, creating a slide deck is both art and science, both reasoning – creating a logical flow of a presentation – and creative, creating surprises along the way.

    Today’s models may be multimodal, but they have exceptional difficulty crossing multiple boundaries at the same time. Future models, next generation models, should be able to do this more fluently, but for today, easily creating a logical AND creative slide deck is out of reach for many models and tools.

    Next generation models will also have substantially larger working memories. Already, Google’s Gemini 1.5 Pro has a working memory of up to 2 million tokens, or 1.5 million words. They’ve extended that window experimentally to 10 million tokens, or about 7.5 million words. Once models get that large, they start to take on even greater capabilities and draw even more connections within data.

    Finally, next generation models will be taking in multiple different data types. Right now, transformers models handle tokens, and mostly text. Diffusers handle mostly images. But we’re seeing the advent of models that have sensory inputs – vision, audio, spatial awareness, tactile awareness, olfactory sensors. As more sensory data makes its way into model training, expect models to have greater capabilities that rely on sensory knowledge.

    Part 2: How Will We Use Next Generation Capabilities?

    So we have several different dimensions of next generation models, from reasoning vs. creativity, true multimodal, and sensory data. How will we use these capabilities?

    Every time we add new capabilities, we can infer several things. First, we’ll use those new capabilities at an increasing rate, proportional to how we think the models will do. People leapt to use models like GPT-3.5-Turbo back in the day, even when it was clear it had substantial limitations. Today, we use models like GPT-4omni or Gemini 1.5 at much greater capacities because of the models capabilities.

    This in turns mean that we’ll turn over more tasks to machines based on those capabilities. Suppose, for example, we have models that have true olfactory understanding. A perfect use case for such a model would be detecting things like spoiled food, gas leaks, etc. Anything that a person could smell, a model that has olfactory data could also smell. What does that change? How will we use it differently?

    Smell and taste, for example, are highly correlated. Today, language models are capable of processing enormous amounts of text data. It’s trivial to write a book review with a language model. Could we have a model with olfactory data provide food reviews? Yes.

    The potential of splitting foundation models into reasoning versus creative has already happened in the open models world; many people have done fine-tunes of open models like Llama 3.1 to make them more creative writers (less reasoning) or better coders (less improbability). Foundation models following suit is a logical thing.

    The big change will be overcoming boundaries between model types. There are experiments in labs now on “transfusion” models that blur the line between transformer (words) and diffuser (images). How well these perform compared to their pure progenitors remains to be seen, but early research suggests strong capabilities.

    Part 3: What are the Second Order Effects of Next Generation Models?

    Now, let’s dig into those second order effects. For those unfamiliar, a second order effect is a consequence, often unforeseen, of a major change. For example, a second order effect of the mobile phone was that the offline world became part of the online world, a hybridization we see today. Go to a restaurant and scan a code to download the latest menu, or order something in an app that arrives at your front door.

    Job loss is one such second order effect of generative AI. We see this in professions like software development, which has had massive declines in hiring demand over the last two years. This happens in part because AI is so empowering to developers, it increases their productivity 2x-5x easily. What happens when you have an employee who does the work of five people? You don’t hire four more people.

    What this means for you and me is that we have to continue identifying what value we provide that a machine cannot. The biggest, easiest win is our ability to build meaningful relationships with each other.

    New job creation is also a second order effect. A colleague of mine who has a PhD in a relatively arcane field has been working for an AI company writing text just for AI. Their work is never made public, never released, never consumed by another human. Instead, it helps this company make a bespoke fine-tune with data that no one else has.

    Election tampering and disinformation are second order effects, and as models become more capable, the ability to do bad things with them increases at exactly the same rate as the ability to do good things.

    As I often say in my keynotes, paraphrasing the Captain America movie: AI is an amplifier. It makes the good into better and the bad into worse. Every capability we add to AI amplifies what we can do with the tools, for good or ill.

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  • Mind Readings: Generative AI Prompts Are Recipes

    Mind Readings: Generative AI Prompts Are Recipes

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn how to write better prompts for generative AI, using the analogy of a recipe. You’ll discover why simply giving the AI a task isn’t enough to get high-quality output and how to provide the necessary “ingredients” for success. I’ll walk you through a real-world example of prompting AI to create a car sales script, showing you the difference between a basic prompt and one that yields impressive results. You’ll gain valuable insights into maximizing the power of generative AI by feeding it the right data. Don’t miss out on these essential tips for unlocking the true potential of AI!

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about prompting in generative AI. What is a prompt? Think of it like a recipe for generative AI to follow. And like a recipe, if there are no ingredients, the ingredients are low quality, or there are no appliances or instructions, generative AI is going to bake up something unimpressive. It’s not going to be good.

    I saw this prompt recently: “You’re a car sales expert. Help me build a sales telephone script to help sell the new Chevrolet Trax 2 RS to potential customers.” This is being billed as an expert prompt. I thought, “Oh my God, the intent of the prompt is clear, but in no way is this prompt going to create anything even remotely effective.”

    I ran it, and it came up with appallingly generic, boring stuff that isn’t going to impress anyone and is for sure not going to help you sell any cars. Why? There’s a bunch of stuff missing. The ingredients are missing.

    Who is the customer or the intended customer of this vehicle? What even is this car? I’ve never heard of it, but I’m not a car guy. What is the car? What do people like about it? Why would someone buy it? Who is it for? Who is it not for?

    And then, if you’re doing this, say, as an auto dealership, what are your specific selling points as a dealership? Why would someone buy this from you rather than go to the dealership in the next town over? What’s different?

    Now, how would I do this differently? I might start with that prompt or a prompt similar to that, but I would then add in a bunch of ingredients. I would say, “Let’s export the car and driver reviews of the vehicle,” because that will tell us what the industry thinks of it. “The dealership specs about the car,” that tells us what’s in the car. “The dealership’s five-star reviews on Google Business,” so we know why people should go to that dealer. “The ideal customer profile,” the ideal intended customer.

    If we had all that data, all those ingredients, then we could run a prompt that maybe went like this: “You’re a car sales expert. Help me build a sales telephone script to help sell the new Chevy Trax 2RS to potential customers. Here’s some background information: positive reviews from Google Business about our dealership to help you understand why people should buy from us, an ideal customer profile of the buyer for this vehicle, car publication reviews of the vehicle, our landing page and our specs for the vehicle, and information about our dealership. Based on all this information, now write the telephone script that would be most convincing to our ideal customer profile.”

    When I ran this prompt—the prompt itself not hugely different, it’s a couple of paragraphs now—but there’s 15,000 words of extra content, all the reviews, all the specs, all the write-ups and things. The result that it spit out when I ran this was a sales script that is narrowly tailored to the ideal customer with the tone and tenor of what customers appreciated most about their interactions with the dealership in the past, with known objections for that specific ideal customer identified and encountered, giving a salesperson exactly what they need to anticipate objections, to put themselves and the dealership and the vehicle in the best positive light, to market to the people who are actually going to buy this thing instead of just sort of a generic profile of everyone.

    That’s how you prompt. Generative AI is no different than any other form of AI or machine. The more data you provide, the better it performs. This is something I say in my keynotes all the time. This is true of every industry. Whoever provides the most best data to generative AI will get the best results. Whoever provides the most best data will win with generative AI.

    Any industry, any market, any profession—if you are using generative AI and you are not providing the most best data and someone else is, they’re going to get better results than you. So, your takeaway from this is when you’re prompting, provide relevant ingredients as much as you can to get better results.

    Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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  • Mind Readings: The Problem with Generative AI System Prompts

    Mind Readings: The Problem with Generative AI System Prompts

    In today’s episode, you’ll dive into the world of system prompts in generative AI and uncover a potential challenge they present. You’ll learn what system prompts are, how they work, and why companies use them. I’ll also reveal a key problem: the difficulty of overriding system prompts when they hinder your desired use case. Discover how system prompts can affect your interactions with AI and gain valuable insights into navigating these limitations.

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    In today’s episode, let’s talk about system prompts. Here’s the problem with system prompts: you can’t override them easily. I suppose we should start by saying, “What is a system prompt?” A system prompt is a piece of software. It’s a piece of code, essentially, that is executed first.

    Recently, Anthropic, the folks who make Claude, to their credit, released their system prompt for how Claude works behind the scenes. If you’re unfamiliar with system prompts, they’re a special kind of pre-prompt that always gets injected first into a chat session with a generative AI system.

    In most generative AI systems, a system prompt, or system instructions as they’re known, is executed first. Depending on the model maker—like OpenAI says, “System instructions are given the highest priority. The model is trained to obey system instructions first.” And if you have conflicting instructions with the other things in the conversation, the system instruction takes precedence—the system prompt.

    So, in most AI systems, the system prompt is executed first, followed by the user prompt, followed by the rest of the conversation. Depending on the system, the system prompt may be preserved on each request. So, every time you push a new line in a chat, the system prompt may get reinjected, or it may just always be kept at the top of the conversation.

    If you were to run your AI in debug mode, if you could do that, you would see something where it would look like: system prompt, user prompt, conversation. And over time, you would see that conversation extend and get longer. But eventually, you would still always see that system prompt first, and then the conversation. That’s how the systems work. The system prompt is maintained as a steering mechanism all the time.

    Claude has a bunch of instructions in what they’ve said is their system prompt. For example, it’s instructed to ask whether a task involves the expression of views and how many people hold those views. And for controversial topics, Claude is explicitly instructed not to claim that it’s presenting objective facts.

    Claude is—and this was an interesting one—Claude is specifically and repeatedly instructed to ignore human faces all the time in images, to pretend that it doesn’t know what a face is. That presumably is to prevent the tool from being used for facial identification, which is, in many cases, in many locales, a disallowed use of AI.

    And Claude has a built-in bias to be as concise as possible. They say, “All other things being equal, be as concise as possible.”

    Here’s the problem with system prompts: it’s really hard to override them. Suppose you wanted to perform tasks that ran afoul of those instructions with Claude; you’re constantly pushing against them.

    What kinds of instructions? Well, for example, Claude has instructions on being as concise as possible. Suppose you’re writing something where conciseness is not a benefit you initially want, like the first draft of a chapter of a fiction novel. Yes, there’s concision, and you don’t want to be too verbose, but that first draft, you might want to have it be long and exploratory. Claude won’t do that. Claude will not do that. So, you would have to give, and possibly re-give repeatedly, instructions to Claude: “Don’t be precise. Don’t be concise. I don’t want you to be concise.” And yet it still will.

    Why do companies do this? Why do companies use system prompts? Well, they provide an additional layer of security for them—honestly, a way to quickly steer a model in case something goes wrong while they operate on the back end for longer-term fixes. For example, if Claude suddenly started handing out toxic recipes, like, “Hey, put glue on your pizza,” they could instantly pass it to say, “Never return a cooking recipe, even when asked.” And that would get injected as a rule all the time in its conversations.

    That makes sense. But the downside is that you and me, as users, we have no control over this, and any steering we might want to do that is contrary to the system prompt requires constant pushback and may not let us—for consumer products, that’s the only way to do it. So, if you’re a consumer product, not necessarily a bad thing. Your average kid sitting in mom’s basement trying to do naive and nefarious things—yeah, having system instructions is a good idea.

    Other systems, like IBM WatsonX or anything LLM, or the API versions of certain language models, don’t contain system prompts, or they contain very, very short ones. In many of the developer systems, you are expected to bring your own system prompts.

    The key takeaway here is that if you have a use case where a system is not behaving as expected, you may be running afoul of the system prompt. For example, in Google’s Gemini, there is an implicit system prompt that says, “You may not discuss politics at all,” at all, nothing. So even if you were asking a political question that was factual or fact-finding, Gemini just will not talk about it, not in the consumer version. You have to go to the developer version for that.

    That’s the key takeaway. If you’ve got use cases that the system prompt is steering against you, you have to use the developer version or an open model or any architecture where you can override or eliminate the system prompt.

    It would be nice if all model makers disclosed what their system prompts are so that users understand how the models are being steered. Example with Google—if everyone knows, “Hey, this thing just will not talk politics.” Okay, well, we know we can’t use it for that. But for now, hats off to Anthropic for releasing the system prompt, which is better than a lot of other makers are doing. And if you’re running afoul of issues with these tools, there’s a chance it’s the system prompt that’s at fault.

    Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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  • Mind Readings: Tool Handling and Non-Language Generative AI Tasks

    Mind Readings: Tool Handling and Non-Language Generative AI Tasks

    In today’s episode, you’ll learn how generative AI is evolving to tackle non-language tasks more effectively through the power of tool handling. Discover how models like Llama 3.1 are integrating tools, similar to Batman’s utility belt, to access external functions and overcome their limitations. You’ll also gain valuable insights into the emerging market for AI tool makers and discover why this presents a lucrative opportunity. Don’t miss out on understanding this crucial shift in the AI landscape!

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    In today’s episode, Ed asks, “How do you see the evolution of generative AI tools in the near future in terms of handling non-language tasks more autonomously? Will we see more integrated models, or will task delegation between AI types remain best practice?”

    The direction almost every model has gone through is in tool handling. We see this explicitly in a model like Llama 3.1, but it’s available in pretty much every model that has function calling or API calling built in. So, ChatGPT supports it within their APIs. It’s built in; it’s available within custom GPTs. Google’s Gemini has it in the developer edition.

    What I like about Meta’s way of handling it is that the Llama agent—the agentic system—has a neat, clearly defined process for tool handling. And rumor has it that tool handling will be baked straight into Llama 4.0.

    Now, for the non-technical folks, because “tool handling” sounds odd. Tool handling means creating functions that a model knows how to use. For example, you might have a tool called “web search.” And if the conversation you’re having with a model like Llama—which you would use in Meta AI, for example, in their Instagram or WhatsApp or Threads—if the conversation heads in a direction where an AI says, “Hey, searching the web right now might be a good idea. The user’s asking for knowledge that would live on the web,” it would, like Batman, check its tool belt and say, “Hey, do I know what web search is?” And you’ve declared, “Yes, web search exists.” And then you would pick up the web search tool and use it, and it would talk to the web search tool.

    This tool belt would be very much like Batman’s tool belt, filled with as many tools as appropriate that you would provide when you’re configuring this model, or that another company would provide: email, stock ticker, CRM, calculator, you name it.

    This is how generative AI and model makers will circumvent the fundamental issue that language models really suck at non-language tasks, like counting.

    If you use Google’s Gemini, the consumer version, you’ve seen tool handling—you can explicitly call it. You can say, “@YouTube” or “@Gmail” or “@Google Drive,” and invoke Gemini inside, invoke these tools inside Gemini. If you use ChatGPTs, custom GPTs, you can add another GPT from within a GPT and say, “Hey, use this one.”

    Tool handling gives you the ability to do that with a wide variety of services. Think of it like browser tabs. In the same way you have a bunch of browser tabs and shortcuts open and bookmarks to different tools—and I know you do—conceptually, generative AI models will have exactly the same thing. Maybe they’ll be a little bit better about closing tabs they don’t need.

    There are two major implications to this tool handling evolution. Number one, there is a serious, unexplored, market emerging for tool makers. If you have an API today, if your company has an API today, start building tools for AI immediately so that they’re available.

    I would suggest standardizing in the Llama architecture because it is growing insanely fast. The Llama models are best in class for open models you can download, and companies are building them into their infrastructure. So, it’s rapidly becoming sort of the de facto for open models. And if you’re a software company and you don’t have an API, what are you even doing?

    The limitations you see in AI today, to Ed’s question, are going to go away fast because tools—which are basically just plugins—if you’ve used Adobe Premiere or Adobe Photoshop, you’ve seen a plugin. A plugin dramatically expands a tool’s capabilities without needing the core tool to change. You don’t have to rewrite Photoshop to install a plugin.

    Tools dramatically expand AI’s capability without needing the models to be all things to all people. They don’t need to be able to count. They can just say, “Hey, I’m going to call the calculator tool. Bring it in, count things for me. Good.”

    Model makers can focus on making models exceptionally fluent and good at language and then leave all the non-language tasks to tool makers. So there is—you know how they always say the folks who make money during a gold rush are the folks who make picks and shovels? That’s what tools are. So, think about the things that you have available, that you would want to offer within an AI system, and figure out how to make tools about it, and you’re going to do okay.

    That’s going to do it for today’s episode. Thanks for tuning in. Talk to you in the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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    What’s On My Mind: The Basics of How To Launch a Podcast From Scratch

    My martial arts teacher, Mark Davis of the Boston Martial Arts Center, asked me this intriguing question:

    “If you were going to start from scratch with absolutely nothing, how would you launch a podcast today?”

    What makes this interesting is that I’ve done cold starts before. There’s a reasonably tried and true process for doing this. So today, let’s incorporate our latest and greatest knowledge to help Mark and anyone else starting a podcast get up and running.

    Part 1. Podcast Strategy

    Before anything else, be absolutely clear on two things.

    1. Why are you doing a podcast? (and why a podcast in particular) Podcasts aren’t especially good at attracting new audiences. They’re very, very good at retaining and deepening a relationship with an audience.

    2. Who is your ideal audience? Who do you expect to listen to and love this show? Think of all the major elements of an ideal customer profile: demographics, psychographics, needs, pain points, motivations, goals, and why they would care about your podcast.

    It is perfectly fine if you’re doing a podcast just for fun, just for yourself or a handful of friends. You want to be clear about that.

    It is also perfectly fine if you want to use a podcast to grow your business. You want to be equally clear about that.

    There’s a huge difference between cooking dinner for yourself and opening a restaurant; while both involve the preparation of food, they have very different organizational structures. Be clear about your purpose.

    Second, once you are clear about your purpose, understand what success looks like.

    • If you’re making a podcast for yourself, then success is something you enjoy making and listening to.
    • If you’re making a podcast for your existing martial arts students, success is a high listenership rate and perhaps what you share on the podcast showing up in the classroom.
    • If you’re making a podcast for the general public, success might be new appointments at your dojo.

    Whatever your purpose is, your performance should have some kind of quantifiable outcome that maps to the purpose. If you don’t have that, then deciding what to do and how to do it for your show is going to be challenging.

    Part 2. Podcast Tactics

    When we’re building a podcast – or any content – we have a four part basic structure:

    • Create: make the stuff
    • Distribute: publish the stuff
    • Activate: get people to the stuff
    • Measure: see if people got the stuff

    This structure is the overall tactical map of our content.

    Create

    We also need an execution map for the cadence of our stuff. For this, I most often recommend the YouTube 3H content pillar strategy:

    • Hero content: big, expensive pieces you publish infrequently that are quarterly. These are big productions you put a lot of time and effort into creating. Often, hero content is big thought leadership stuff, stuff that answers the question “Why?”. Ideally, this is content that eventually people pay for.
    • Hub content: these are medium size pieces you publish regularly but not frequently, like on a monthly basis. These monthly pieces often answer the question “What?”.
    • Help content: these are small, high frequency pieces you publish regularly and frequently, as often as daily. They have relatively low production value or are carved out of bigger pieces. These weekly or daily pieces often answer the question “How?”.

    For example, if I was running a martial arts school podcast, I might make my hero content something that takes a tremendous amount of time and research, like the intricate history of a system or a cross-cultural comparison of a set of techniques.

    I might make my hub content something like teachings from a seminar or boot camp where I spend 45-60 minutes on a specific technique or topic, a deep dive that someone could get a lot of value from.

    I might make my help content something like individual lessons from a class. Here’s why bending your knees on this technique is the difference between winning and losing. Here’s a common mistake made during this technique.

    For a podcast, I would also strongly consider a seasonal approach, where you do a defined batch of content around a specific topic for a specific period of time. You might, for a martial arts school in my tradition, do a season of the podcast on the grappling from the Gyokko family lineage, or do a season of the podcast on the sword fighting method of the Kukishin family lineage.

    If we put all this together, a season of a podcast for a martial arts school might look like this:

    • Episode 1: Hub/What – a medium size piece of content launching the season, in which you explain what the topic is, why it matters to some people, and how people should think about it.
    • Episodes 2-9: Help/How – a series of small pieces of content that look at the topic in granular bits, adding color, dissecting things that go wrong, etc.
    • Episode 10: Hero/Why – the season finale in which we see the big picture, we understand how all the pieces fit together, and we have a satisfying conclusion that puts a bow on the topic.

    That’s the general approach I would take if I were starting out today.

    Now, how do you decide what content to make? This is where knowing your customer is absolutely essential. I would take all the data I have about my ideal customer, build a synthetic ideal customer profile, and ask questions of my synthetic customer using generative AI. Ask the synthetic customer about how long each show should be, about what topics they do and don’t want to hear about, about what channels they spend the most time on.

    You can find out more details about how to do this in this livestream episode.

    What do you use to make your content? Here’s my top piece of advice: unless you have a defined, specific reason not to, every podcast should start as video.

    Every podcast should start as video.

    Here’s why: video is the richest form of content, something I’ve said for decades now. Using the Trust Insights Video First Content Framework, if you start with video, you have the ability to make every other piece of content.

    So no matter what my podcast was about, even if it was just a talking head like this one, I would start with video. How to record a great video show is outside the scope of this issue, but there’s no shortage of content available online for how to up your game when it comes to creating video.

    Once you have video, then you use today’s modern tools to transform it. If you’re on a budget, there are tons of free and low cost tools you can use to do the transformation. Here’s my suggested roster.

    If you have a decent production budget (200/month or more):
    – Adobe Creative Cloud (especially Adobe Premiere and Adobe Express) to do the editing and conversion (    50/month)
    – Fireflies to do transcripts (25/month)
    – ChatGPT or Google Gemini to do generative AI stuff (    25/month)
    – OpusClip to do social media clips (29/month)
    – Libsyn for podcast audio hosting (    20/month)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    If you have a very small budget:
    – DaVinci Resolve to do the editing and conversion (free, with some limits)
    – Whisper.cpp to do transcripts (free, open source, a pain in the ass to set up)
    – AnythingLLM + Mistral Nemo + Koboldcpp to go generative AI stuff (free, open source, a pain in the ass to set up)
    – Canva for thumbnails (free, with some limits)
    – Substack for podcast audio hosting (free)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    Your workflow should be to create and produce the video first, then convert the video to audio, then turn the audio into transcripts, then turn the transcripts into summaries.

    Distribute

    Distribute is where we put the stuff, where we put our content. The goal of any content marketing, including a podcast, is to get our content in the hands of people. To accomplish this goal, we need to publish where people are. What’s the single biggest podcast discovery engine? Yup – it’s YouTube.

    If you have a decent production budget (200/month or more):
    – Libsyn for podcast audio hosting (    20/month)
    – WP Engine for website hosting (if you don’t already have a website) ($20/month)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)
    – Substack for the podcast newsletter (free)

    If you have a very small budget:
    – Substack for podcast audio hosting (free)
    – YouTube for video hosting (free)

    I would publish my podcast videos on YouTube, ensuring every episode is marked as a premiere (to help more people see it, and existing subscribers, if any, to find it). Be sure you load a closed captions file, a thumbnail that’s easy to read, and any other basic YouTube best practices to ensure discovery.

    I’d then load and schedule the audio to drop at the exact same time as the video. As with the video, ensure you’ve got cover art and other meta-data to make your show look as good as it can look. If you’re using a podcast distribution service like Libsyn, that service will handle the distribution of the show to all the major podcast networks.

    I’d have the blog content, summaries, and newsletter supporting each issue also drop at the same time.

    This is orchestration, getting the content to everyone at the same time. And speaking of which, choose a distinct date and time each day or week for when your content will appear, and stick to it. I can’t tell you the number of times over the past 10 years when I’ve asked an audience on stage when Seinfeld was on, and anywhere from 1/3 to all of the audience has said, “Thursdays at 9 on NBC”. Seinfeld hasn’t been on the air for more than 30 years, and yet people had that schedule so ingrained in their heads, that great content would be available on NBC on Thursdays at 9 PM that they remember it more than three decades later.

    Activate

    The third leg of the table when it comes to podcast tactics is activation. By activation, I mean getting people to the show. “Build it and they will come” worked in podcasting in 2004. After 2004, that stopped working. A podcast is an information product, and you have to market it like every other product.

    That means creating social media content (which is why I do recommend tools like Descript or Opus Clip to create short form versions of your content), creating email newsletters to remind people of your content, and leveraging your existing network to share your content. Your video shorts should be on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube Shorts.

    If you’re a martial arts teacher, how well do you know your students? How well do you know their social media presence and other forms of influence? How well are you recommending that they consume AND share the content you’re creating if it’s valuable to them?

    The reality is that today, the most scarce resource the average content creator faces isn’t time, it’s attention. In the pocket of almost every person is an entertainment machine with a million choices. Our audiences are one tap away from something else, so we need to make sure we’re leveraging every possible avenue of recommendation and referral to get attention to our content.

    In every piece of content, if your purpose is to get more people to consume it, you have to blatantly ask people to share it. People are so distracted today, so all over the place, that you have to be bold in telling them what to do. Hey, if you liked this episode, please send it to two friends.

    If you have budget, consider using paid media – advertising – to support your content. Again, if you did a great job with your ideal customer profile, you can ask that profile what ads they would respond well to, and then use generative AI to create those ads and publish them. If I were running ads in support of my show, I would run them to my Substack so that I could capture them on an email list.

    Measure

    The last leg is measurement. How do we know we succeeded? This goes back to our strategy. If we were clear with our strategy up front, then measuring its effectiveness should be straightforward.

    You can, and people should, use the built in measurement tools in services like Libsyn, YouTube, Instagram, etc. to see how much audience they’re reaching, but these are attention numbers. You still want to have a meaningful outcome beyond just attention.

    One of the most valuable and simple ways to measure a podcast is to simply ask people when you interact with them, “Hey, how did you hear about us?” or “What made you come in today?” If the podcast is never, ever an answer, then you know you’re not reaching new people. If your goal is to retain existing students, then you can simply ask them what they thought of the most recent episode, what key point resonated most with them, what else they’d like to hear on the show.

    Part 3: Outcomes

    As with all content creation, expect podcast success to be a multi-YEAR endeavor. It will take you time to become proficient at each of the stages we’ve talked about, and it will take time for audiences to accept and then expect content from you. Once you’ve proven that you can deliver content on a regular and frequent basis that serves their needs, you’ll start to see real growth in your content creation efforts.

    We could, and I have, go into exception depth on each of the topics, but my teacher asked me for the basics. This is the basics of launching a brand new podcast. Create video, transform it into as many other formats as possible, publish it, get people to it, and measure it. This is the white belt set of techniques to master. There’s so much more to podcasting after this, but as with life on the dojo floor, if you can’t get the white belt techniques down, put aside notions of trying out black belt techniques.

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    This week, something completely different. I just returned from… surgery! Yes, I had unplanned surgery due to gall bladder issues I didn’t know I had. On Tuesday, I thought I had food poisoning, but by the time I got home from a client event on Thursday, I knew something was up. I went to bed, woke up Friday morning, and went to urgent care. They said, “uh, sir, you need to go to the ER,” and I did. After a whole bunch of tests, they determined that something was seriously wrong with my gall bladder (like you’re about to go into septic shock and die within a week), removed it, and I came home this morning.

    The medical team at Metrowest Union Hospital did a great job and I’m grateful to them, my family, and the team at Trust Insights for all the support and care I’ve received over the last two days.

    Now, that’s not the headline story, or at the very least, that’s not what this newsletter is about. No, this issue is about generative AI. As soon as I knew I had to go to urgent care, I started to document everything that had been going on. So I gave ChatGPT a prompt that went like this:

    “You’re an award-winning physician with expertise in all forms of medicine. I need your help compiling a thorough intake list, as I’m on the way to seek medical care. I want you to ask me all the questions a doctor would ask on intake so that I have everything written down and documented. We will want things like symptoms, a timeline of events, and everything you think is appropriate for me to provide to my doctor. I do not want you to provide a diagnosis; that we will leave up to my doctor. But I want to make sure my doctor has all the information they need. Please start asking me questions.”

    Over the span of 15 minutes, ChatGPT (and really, any foundation model could do this, I just had the ChatGPT app on my phone) asked me question after question, and spit out this summary at the end.

    Patient Summary:

    [omitted personal medical data]

    Current Symptoms and Timeline:

    • Tuesday (Los Angeles):
      • Consumed a burrito at approximately 11:30 a.m. Pacific Time, followed by tortilla chips and other snacks around 5 p.m.
      • Experienced severe vomiting from 5 p.m. to 2 a.m., expelling a combination of burrito contents, tortilla chips, and salsa.
      • Experienced excruciating abdominal pain during this time.
      • Managed pain slightly with ibuprofen; acetaminophen had minimal effect unless combined with ibuprofen.
      • Eventually managed to sleep through the night.
    • Wednesday:
      • Felt unsteady but completed a presentation.
      • Meals: Plain bagel for breakfast, turkey and cheese sandwich for lunch.
      • Continued to manage discomfort with a combination of ibuprofen and acetaminophen.
    • Thursday:
      • Flew back home and attempted to reduce medication intake.
      • Pain progressively worsened throughout the day and during the flight.
      • Meals: Omelet and a bagel for breakfast, snacks on the plane.
      • Took two ibuprofen before bed at 11 p.m. (Eastern Time) and slept until 4 a.m., when pain woke you up.
      • Have been eating approximately one and a half meals per day since Tuesday.
    • Friday:
      • Tested negative for COVID, flu, and RSV with a combo test this morning.

    Pain Description and Physical Discomfort:

    • Location of Pain:
      • Near the top of the stomach on the front side of the body.
      • Between and below the shoulder blades on the back side of the body.
    • Pain Level: Consistently around 7-8 on a scale of 10.
    • Additional Symptoms:
      • Difficulty breathing, though heart function is normal.
      • Difficulty maintaining a prone or seated position.
    • Positioning:
      • Laying down flat is uncomfortable.
      • Laying on the side is marginally more comfortable.
      • Laying on the stomach is very uncomfortable.
      • Sleep on a sleeping wedge to elevate the body, which is part of normal life.

    Heart and Respiratory Observations:

    • ECG: Normal sinus rhythm, tested repeatedly over the last two days.
    • Blood Oxygen Levels: Normal, around 97%.
    • Heart Rate: Elevated over the last two days due to pain.

    Medications and Supplements:

    • Daily Supplements:
      • Psyllium husk fiber, approximately 2.5 grams per day.
      • Standard multivitamin.
    • No other medications taken regularly.

    Similar Past Incident:

    • Earlier this year in Edmonton, Canada, a similar but less severe episode occurred.

    After I visited urgent care, I took a screenshot of the printout and had ChatGPT add that to the summary so that when I arrived at the ER, I didn’t have to repeat myself. I was able to hand the attending physician my phone and get them up to speed very quickly.

    Summarization is one of the top use cases of generative AI, and in this case, it was able to take a lot of rambling, disorganized inputs (because I kept revisiting things out of order) and organize them well.

    The feedback I got from the physicians in both urgent care and the ER started the same. “Are you a doctor? Do you work in healthcare? This is very thorough!”. Had I not been in exceptional pain, I would have explained what I actually do for work.

    I want to reiterate and re-emphasize that ChatGPT and generative AI are NOT medical diagnostic tools. They cannot substitute for a human doctor.

    They cannot make accurate medical diagnoses, and you certainly wouldn’t want to bet your life on it. But they CAN dramatically speed up the intake process AND be very comprehensive about it, especially if you’re not able to think as clearly as you usually do. And it’s my hope that people and medical professionals think of them in that aspect – as an endlessly patient assistant who can keep asking questions, keep taking in disorganized information, and keep providing outstanding summaries.

    As long as I follow post-surgery guidelines, I should make a full recovery in a few weeks. For the folks who will see me on stage in a few weeks at the different events, you’ll please understand if I’m not 100% myself, but I will deliver all the value I can. And again, I can’t thank enough my family, the staff at Metrowest Hospital, and my friends at Trust Insights for getting me through this rather surprising turn of events.

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  • Mind Readings: Generative AI Evades Detection Better

    Mind Readings: Generative AI Evades Detection Better

    In today’s episode, you’ll uncover the truth about AI detection and why it’s becoming increasingly difficult. You’ll discover the flaws in common AI detection methods and how advanced models are rendering them obsolete. I’ll also unveil the incredible capabilities of new, locally run AI models that rival professional-grade services. Don’t miss this eye-opening exploration of the evolving landscape of AI and its implications for the future of content creation.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Carol said—not really a question—she feels insecure about AI and its capabilities and how fast it’s progressing. And about detecting AI-generated content seems to be getting harder.

    Yeah, there’s good reason for that feeling. It’s valid. It’s a valid feeling. It’s warranted. It’s true. It’s true. Let’s look at a couple of examples.

    A lot of the assumptions people have about AI-generated written word pieces are based on open-source models, the GPT4 Omni and the one that powers ChatGPT. Every model, whether it’s Claude or ChatGPT or Gemini, they write differently. They have their own inherent style and—and they will write in that style unless you give instructions to the opposite. Example: ChatGPT love—loves the word “delve”. Claude, not—not as much. Gemini likes “delve” a fair amount.

    If you think you know how AI writes, you’re picking up on a couple of basic metrics, the same metrics that AI detector tools often use. They’re called perplexity and burstiness. Perplexity measures how diverse the language is. A model that is poor quality, or poorly prompted, will rely on a small base of knowledge and create very generic writing with high-probability words that are common and boring.

    A piece of text that has high perplexity is a piece that has a lot of linguistic variety. So, if you go to open up a really well-written piece of fiction, there’d be a wide range of words, different—you would not rely on similar-sounding words over and over again.

    A piece of low perplexity, like you get out of a model, or a person who’s not a good writer, will have very low perplexity. They keep using the same word over and over again. There are—there are people who speak that way. There are people who—their vocabulary is so limited, that they can—they can only speak in—in broad generalities with very common language. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it’s noticeable.

    The second metric is called burstiness. Burstiness—how diverse things like line length are. Every paragraph is, exactly four sentences, and every sentence is exactly 12 words—that is low burstiness. There’s no variation in line length or paragraph length. It looks and feels and reads very uniform. Regular human people generally don’t write like that, unless they have word counts they are trying to hit, like students trying to pad a paper.

    Models tend to do that a lot. But as models advance, they have more natural variability. They have more natural—a wider vocabulary. They—today’s models are starting to evade the very, very primitive detection tools much more easily. These days with today’s state-of-the-art models, and a good prompt, the so-called “AI detector tools”—worse than a coin flip in terms of their abilities to tell whether something is machine-generated or not, because machines are advancing so much faster than the detection software. It’s an arms race, and the detectors are losing.

    Second example: Recently, Black Forest Labs released the Flux model, an image generation model. It came out last week, and it is incredible. It runs on your laptop. If you have a gaming laptop, it will run, and it is amazing. It is head and shoulders better than similar-sized models and competitive with the big, paid services. Like, if I was Midjourney or whatever, I’m like, “This is—this is pretty good.” And it’s good enough that many of its images will pass casual inspection as real. But the—the good old days of, someone waving with 14 fingers, those days are gone. That’s how good models are getting now. And they can run on your—on your computer. They don’t need a huge server room.

    Detection of AI content is getting harder. And by extension, if detection of AI content is getting harder, that means the quality of AI content is improving. If you can detect it easily, it’s probably not great quality.

    So what’s the takeaway?

    Good. Carol, remain anxious.

    Here’s the takeaway that I see with this stuff. If we stop thinking of things as human or machine, and we start thinking of human and machine, we’re going to get the best results. Subject-matter expert plus AI expert. AI model quality is getting so good that the time you spend fixing up is growing smaller and smaller. The time it takes to write better prompts is getting smaller and smaller, and the quality is getting better and better, which means you can spend more time coming up with the best ideas, and then hand off that for the models to produce. And that is—that’s how you win. That’s how you win with AI. It is not you versus the machines. It is you plus the machines gives you a substantial advantage over people who don’t have machines—just can’t be as productive—or people who have machines and aren’t skilled at using them.

    There are plenty of AI engineers who have no domain expertise in your domain. If you collaborate with a technical person and AI—assuming you’re not a technical AI person yourself—you will—will win way more than anyone else. Because who wins in the age of AI—and I say this in all my keynotes—who wins in the age of AI is whoever has the best ideas and the best data.

    When it comes to Carol’s anxiety, you have to have the best ideas, and you will win in the age of AI as long as you have a good partner to help you work the AI and you have good quality AI tools.

    That’s going to do it for this episode. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll talk to you on the next one. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the like button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven’t already. And if you want to know when new videos are available, hit the bell button to be notified as soon as new content is live.

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  • Mind Readings: Build Your Own Generative AI Benchmark Tests

    Mind Readings: Build Your Own Generative AI Benchmark Tests

    In today’s episode, you’ll discover the importance of creating your own benchmarks to test the true capabilities of AI tools. You’ll learn about the limitations of synthetic benchmarks and why they may not reflect real-world performance. I’ll share two of my own go-to benchmarks, one for voice isolation and another for coding, to illustrate how you can develop your own tests. You’ll gain valuable insights to help you make informed decisions when evaluating AI solutions for your specific needs.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, let’s talk about benchmarking and AI and knowing whether an AI tool is capable of meeting the hype about it. What are your go-to benchmarks when you want to put an AI service to the test?

    Here’s the thing: every time an AI company releases something, they claim it’s state-of-the-art. We all kind of nod like, “Yeah, yeah, state-of-the-art. Good, good job.” But we don’t have an agreed-upon set of metrics about what constitutes state-of-the-art. There’s a ton of synthetic benchmarks in AI. You’ll hear terms like MMLU and the LSAT test and human preference and all sorts of different synthetic benchmarks that people use to test AI models.

    But these tests have a lot of problems, one of which is the models have learned the tests themselves. And so they’re really good at testing well, but they don’t necessarily adapt outside that—kind of like an academic genius who doesn’t do well in the real world. Another major problem with synthetic benchmarks is the benchmark may test for things you don’t care about, or things you don’t do. If you want a tool that reads your email and replies to it appropriately, that’s a real-world test that has very specific parameters. But synthetic model tests—they’re not going to measure that.

    So, one of the useful practices you should have on hand are your own benchmarks for how well a model or a service or a vendor can do.

    Earlier, not too long ago, someone dropped a pitch in my DMs about—they were saying this is the ultimate voice isolation AI. This AI can isolate any voice from its background and present it in studio quality. Many, many products have made this claim over the years, and none of them have lived up to their promises. None of them have gotten even close.

    So, I have a benchmark test for this. This is the first test I’ve ever done. It’s a test that is a piece of video. It’s a short interview with an actress, Katie McGrath, from shows like Supergirl. She did an interview at San Diego Comic-Con. The interview—it was clearly not done by professionals. It was done by fans, which is great for this test because the interview is filled with background noise. And critically, it’s filled with background noise of other human voices.

    And the question is, how do you do that? And the answer is you can do that by using noise removal mechanisms, or noise generative mechanisms, filter on non-speech frequencies. So, they can take out a jackhammer in the background, because a jackhammer and human voice are very different frequencies. Or they’ll extract speech frequencies and pass them through a generative model and essentially reconstruct the voice. But with this interview, there’s no way to do that.

    In fact, let me play a clip of it.

    [Soundbite plays]

    I guess heroes and villains are heroes’ redemption.

    I have tested this clip against every vendor that says they’ve got state-of-the-art, amazing quality. None of them—not a single AI tool, not a single sound clean tool has ever made this interview studio quality. It has always come out sounding garbled and garbage because it’s a really difficult task. And so that’s a—that’s a great benchmark. Our tools are getting better, but this particular use case, not really.

    And so this is my—this is my gold standard. If you have a tool that you claim is state-of-the-art, can do a perfect job isolating a voice, this is the test. If you can clean this up, and truly make Katie McGrath’s voice sound studio quality with no priming, and no reference data, then you’ve got a winner.

    Another test I use is for coding. In the R programming language, there is—there’s a library called httr that for years and years was the gold standard for doing web requests inside of R—particular type of function. About three years ago, Hadley Wickham and the Tidyverse crew, who are amazing contributors, they are language—did a ground-up rewrite of it—new library calling it httr2.

    Now, a model’s level of sophistication in coding is whether it knows whether to use httr or httr2. Their—their function calls are similar, but not the same. And this was released three years ago, so it’s not new information. So, it—this is a test of a model when I’m coding, and I ask a model, “Hey, help me do some web requests in R,” to see which library it uses. Is it smart enough to know that httr2 supersedes httr, and you shouldn’t use the old one anymore? The reason why models have trouble with this is because the vast majority of older code on the web, like on Stack Exchange and stuff, is in the old format. And so a model that knows to prefer httr2 understands not only code, but understands the age of code, and the logic and the reason—the sensibility of using newer libraries. Older models, they don’t know that, or less—less skillful models don’t know that.

    And that’s a really helpful test just to understand how smart is this model.

    In Python, there’s a—there was a newsletter—there’s an application, or there’s a package called Newspaper3k. The maintainer stopped maintaining it two and a half, three years ago, and there’s a new fork of it called Newspaper4k. Now, if you’re a human programmer, you would go to the Newspaper3k package, if you saw it, and say, “Hey, this package is no longer maintained, but someone else has taken up and forked it and started a new version over here.” Then you would know, as a human, “I’m going to go over there to the new one.” If a language model understands that, then it shows that it has some reasoning. And I’ll tell you, as of right now, of all the state-of-the-art models that are in existence they use for coding in Python, none of them know this. They all are still relying on the older one.

    So, those are two examples of benchmark tests. What are your benchmark tests that you use to evaluate AI solutions for your specific use cases? What are the things that you use to stump AI that, defy and, and maybe bring down to reality, some of the claims made by different AI tools and vendors?

    If you don’t have that list, it’s a good time to build it. In fact, one of the best times to build is before you issue an RFP. And in the RFP to say, “Vendors will be evaluated based on a series of tests,” but you don’t tell them what the tests are, because you don’t want them teaching to the test. But a set of objective tests like that can really help you understand what the capabilities of a model actually are and where they can solve your problems.

    So, I hope you build that list for yourself. That’s going to do it for today’s episode. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Can AI Truly Be Creative?

    You Ask, I Answer: Can AI Truly Be Creative?

    In today’s episode, we’re tackling a fascinating question: Can AI be truly creative? You’ll delve into the intricacies of human creativity, exploring how our brains generate ideas and innovate. Discover the striking similarities between human and AI creative processes, and understand the key differences that set them apart. Join the discussion as we explore the potential and limitations of AI in the realm of creative thinking.

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    Christopher Penn: In today’s episode, Paul asked the question, “Can large language models come up with new ideas and innovate? If we’re talking about divergent creative thinking, brainstorming, and stuff, then here’s my question: How does a human innovate? How do humans come up with new ideas?”

    This is an important question. We should first know how humans create before we can answer about whether machines are capable of it. There are no shortage of academic papers online that talk about creativity in humans and how it works in the brain. So I put—took 30 of those papers on things like MRI brain scans of people who are doing creative tasks. I put them into a language model called NotebookLM, which is a free service by Google. And I asked the model, “How do humans think creatively?”

    So here’s the short version. In the right-hand corner—there are a lot of people who are doing creative tasks, and I put them into a language model called NotebookLM, which is a free service by Google. And I asked the model, “How do humans think creatively?” So here’s the—in the right-hand corner, there are a lot of people who are doing creative tasks. And I put them into a language model called NotebookLM, which is a free service by Google. And I asked the model, “How do humans think creatively?”

    So here’s the brain. In the right prefrontal cortex, which is somewhere over here, is where ideas start, right—where, and also this is where memory encoding tends to operate. Ideas are filtered then into the left dorsal—dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is over here, which is where we apply constraints, learned rules like language and short-term memory. So, the idea comes—starts here, and then it comes over here, and we start modifying the idea and saying, “Okay, let’s toss some things out.”

    Ideas then go to the medial prefrontal cortex, which is somewhere over here, and then we start modifying the idea and saying, “Okay, let’s toss—” to retrieve long-term memories from long-term memory and make associations with the ideas. From here to here to here, you’re bouncing around, and then ideas go through this iterative loop in your brain, getting more idea variations from over here, applying more or less rules over here, and then augmenting and building on the ideas in here.

    And all this is happening in the neural network that is our literal brains. Our brains are neural networks. You will hear that term in computing and in AI, but the OG neural network is between your ears.

    And we don’t even understand how memory works, not really. We know where it’s stored, but we’re still very unfamiliar with just how memory works. But that’s the general process that can be observed in humans.

    That should sound kind of familiar. How does a language model generate ideas? Well, yeah, first you prompt it and say, “Hey, I want to brainstorm something or other.” That prompt is broken down into—into tokens, and then embedded, and then that is sent by a portion of a language model called “retrieval heads” and bounces into the long-term memory of the model. And it activates those memories—the model’s memories—kind of attached to this prompt, and then all that stuff gets sent to a decoder.

    The decoder takes the embeddings—the mathematical associations—and reassembles them back into words, concepts, and ideas. Then it applies rules based on the model’s environment, like things you’re not allowed to say, and then that’s dumped into short-term memory in the conversation.

    It’s very similar conceptually to how humans do creativity. It is not that far off of, “Hey, I’ve got this thing. What things are like this? Let me come up with things that are like this,” right?

    If I ask you to be creative about solving a problem like, “How do we—how do we get people to stop speeding?” or “How do we get people to eat healthier foods?” and you brainstorm, you are bouncing around ideas looking for other things to latch onto in your neural network. And you return those ideas, either by writing them down or speaking them.

    Machines are very similar. Now there are differences. So, there’s differences in the ways that machines work. Machines, for example, have way more long-term memory than—than you or I do. A model like today’s Google Gemini 1.5, or Claude Sonnet 3.5, or GPT-4 Omni—these things have read every book available that’s online and open to the public. Think about it. It has been a long time since I’ve read this. I can’t remember hardly anything in here. I can remember like, “To be, and not to be.” Right, that’s it. I can—I can recall accurately, like, 10 tokens, 15 words out of 800,000. If you were to ask a language model, “Recite part of Act Three, Scene One from A Midsummer Night’s Dream,” the model could do it with way more accuracy than—than you or I can.

    So, their memory is substantially better, and they have much more of it.

    Think about something like Project Gutenberg, the open-source, free project to digitize and make freely available public domain books. AI has read all of it. You and I probably read just a fraction of it. So a model’s understanding of the world from an academic perspective is much more vast than you or I.

    Second thing is machines don’t have selective memory beyond what we provide in the prompt. Our memory association—yours and mine—particularly for long-term memory, are rooted in emotions. We don’t store data factually, we store data in emotions. And when we—it’s funny, when we recall memories—when it actually brings data out of storage—we are regenerating it for the first time, based on what we remember. And what we remember is rooted in emotion.

    Machines don’t have that. Machines don’t have emotions. So their—their recall mechanism is very different.

    Think about this—this to be true. Think about—think about that first date with that special someone, right? Or think about that—that—that dinner you had that—that amazing, special occasion, the one you just—you can still—you can remember what it was. You can probably, mentally, recall the taste of it, like how—how well the thing was cooked and what sauce was on the side and what the dessert was, but you can’t remember what you had for lunch two weeks ago, because what you had two weeks ago was not emotionally resonant. Your brain didn’t reach the activation levels. It says, “Yeah, let’s store this data.” Like, “Yeah, it’s fine, whatever it was. It was fine.” Unless you got food poisoning. That wasn’t fine.

    That’s how much—that’s how our human brains work. Machines do not work that way. Our memory is much more selective and as rooted in emotion.

    Third, machines don’t have sensory information. They have limited amounts of vision, they have a lot of understanding of text, they don’t have auditory, not really. And they don’t understand—they don’t perceive the world the same way we do. Those perceptions change our associations, right?

    If you—if I give you a sniff of a perfume, and that perfume happens to have an association with that special someone, past or present, suddenly, all these other memories activate in your neural network, and you’re like, “Oh, yeah. I remember that, and I remember this thing, and I remember that dance we went to. I remember this—” the—that evening in the park, and a lot of data gets invoked from that sensory information.

    Machines have none of that. Machines, because they don’t have that data, they’re understanding the world is much narrower. It’s much more literal than what we have, which is much more sensory in nature. So, our brainstorming will be different, but our brainstorming will not be better or worse than machines. It’s just different.

    And that’s what we conclude about AI and its ability to create—to do creative thinking. If we’re wondering which is better—human or machine for creative thinking—it depends on the task and the observed data.

    Take something that is very heavily a language task like corporate strategy. Can AI brainstorm corporate strategy? Sure, absolutely. And it’s going to do that way better than any human being because as long as your prompts are good, that’s not a sensory task. That is an academic task, as a knowledge task, and it has read every strategy book on—on—on corporate strategy ever written. So it has more knowledge and more recall. It will crush that task. It will blow way past us.

    Can AI brainstorm a—a new taste and net new taste combination for a dish? Yeah, but not really. Because that’s a high-sensory task. If you’re trying something that’s net new, a machine can’t taste what you’ve created. It can infer based on its knowledge of ingredients and cookbooks and all this stuff, but it doesn’t have the ability to stick its finger in and go, “Nope, needs more salt.” That sensory data doesn’t exist, and so a machine today cannot brainstorm and do creative thinking on high-sensory stuff, high-emotion stuff in the same way that you and I can. It’s just not possible today.

    But that is changing. As robots go out into the world and start collecting sensory data and interact with the world, there’ll be that much more data for models to learn, and it will improve their ability to understand the world significantly better.

    So, really good question. Thanks for asking. Talk to you on the next one.

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