Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

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  • You Ask, I Answer: B2B or B2C Benefits More From AI?

    You Ask, I Answer: B2B or B2C Benefits More From AI?

    Unlock the benefits of AI for your business with this expert analysis. Discover which industry, B2B or B2C, will see more advantages from AI, and why. With insights into cost-effectiveness, scale, and expectations, find out how your business can leverage AI for greater efficiency and success. Watch now to learn more. Hit that subscribe button for more expert advice.

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    In today’s episode, Mary asks, which industry, B2B or B2C will benefit more from artificial intelligence? And that’s a tough question to answer.

    But my inclination is that B2B will enjoy more of the benefits of AI with fewer of the costs.

    And here’s why.

    When you’re talking B2C, we’re talking business to consumer, we’re talking about many times scale, the ability for a chatbot to be able to run on your website and address millions of people handle customer service issues and things like that.

    Personalization, doing RFM analysis doing predictive forecasting for customers.

    All of that is incredible value that AI can unlock for a B2C company.

    But one of the challenges that comes with that is scale.

    If you’ve got millions of customers, you have a compute problem, in the sense that it costs a lot of money to deploy some of these engines.

    To add scale.

    If you’re using a an API based service like OpenAI, for example.

    Every time you hit that API, you’re costing money.

    And if you’re sending out a million messages, or a million tweets or things like that, bill gets pretty big pretty fast.

    To the point where for the largest enterprise B2C companies, companies like Target or WalMart, for example, it’s going to be more cost effective for them to build their own in the long run.

    Because of just the sheer scale this your amount of scale they have.

    B2B companies typically don’t have that problem.

    B2B companies have audiences in the 1000s, rather than the millions have addressable audiences in the 1000s, rather than the millions and have.

    They have the same needs for customization personalization forecasting generation.

    But because the scale is so much smaller, they can afford to do use the nicer stuff.

    They can afford to build an integration with OpenAI, for example.

    And instead of having, you know, millions of people hitting their app, they might have 500 people hitting a chat GPT-2 Like app within the company.

    And so their bills will be much lower.

    But those those tasks that AI handles will make them far more efficient, and make them far better at their jobs.

    And so, as I look at the landscape, both B2B and B2C companies stand to benefit substantially from the use of AI, particularly the use of AI and marketing, AI and sales, etc.

    But B does B2B companies feel like this is this is subjective opinion, but B2B companies feel like they will be able to benefit more from the particular strengths of AI.

    Without the costs of scale, they will be able to use more computationally expensive technologies, because again, you don’t have to deliver massive volume.

    For example, inside of a CRM package, you might have something like a chatbot, like a chat GPT-3 in there to help construct dialogue, or to generate messages.

    In those situations, a B2B company might not have the same latency demands that a B2C company might example, you are on a B2C companies website and you’re working with a chatbot, you expect that chat bot to be fast and responsive to get back to you to answer as though it were a real person.

    Contrast that with something like in B2B, where you’re in your marketing automation software, and you tell it to generate a bunch of tweets.

    You’re okay, if it says like, yeah, come back in five minutes, right? And they’ll be done.

    Like, okay, cool.

    I’m gonna go on to another thing on my to do list and let it do its thing.

    That difference in expectations means that B2B companies will be able to leverage the more computationally expensive models because people are okay with that experience.

    They’re used to it experience where yeah, there is some batch processing, there’s some delay, etc.

    Whereas consumers and B2C are a lot less tolerant of that kind of thing.

    So again, both types of industry will benefit from AI, but I definitely see B2B as being able to use it more and to get greater benefit from it.

    It’s a really interesting question.

    It’s a really interesting question.

    So thank you for that.

    Take care.

    I’ll talk to you soon.

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  • You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    You Ask, I Answer: Switching from B2B to B2C Marketing?

    Arryck asks, “What tips do you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing, focusing on moving a lot of product in store and online?”

    Fundamentally, B2B and B2C are the same thing. The question is how complex the sale is. A lot of B2B marketing also resembles mortgages, college educations, etc. – lots of decision makers, long buying cycles. A lot of B2C marketing looks like transactional B2B, like when you buy a software license with your credit card. Beyond that, focus on where customers get stuck, and fix the least well-performing stage in the buyer’s journey.

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    In today’s episode arc asks what tips you have for a marketer who is switching from B2B to B2C marketing focusing on moving a lot of products in store and online.

    So fundamentally, b2b and b2c at the same thing, right? You’re selling to human beings.

    The real question is how complex is the sale now a lot of b2b marketing it is complex sales.

    Lots of decision makers long buying cycles.

    Emphasis very strongly on relationships.

    And there are b2c products that look just like that.

    mortgages, car purchases, college education, high risk transactions where someone’s going to have a long time to wait.

    A lot of decision makers, a lot of consultation, a lot of checking reviews and things to make sure that Making a good choice.

    Now, a lot of b2c marketing looks like transactional b2b, right? You go on to your favorite SAS software provider where you can go and just swipe your credit card and got your software you may not even interact with a human being just get up and go write a short buying cycle, low risk, low budget, and very fast.

    So there’s no structural difference between b2b and b2c.

    What there is a differences in the complexity of the sale and how complex your company’s products and services are in terms of complexity of sale.

    So the first thing to do is find out how complex is the sale of media question comes to mind is how long is the buying cycle from first touch, meaning awareness, all the way to purchase, how many days weeks months years is the product if it is yours, you’re going to have a buying process and marketing technology and all those things.

    It looks just like B2B There’ll be an advanced CRM, they’ll be sales agents, nurturing people through the process, etc.

    If the product has a very short sale cycle, you know, under 30 days, and you’re going to have things like e commerce, probably, you’re going to have more maybe distributors or resellers in the mix there somewhere.

    And you’re going to apply the same strategies you do for any non complex sale, we’re instead of creating a individual long term relationship, you’re probably gonna be working with large audiences and working with segments.

    Working with brand awareness overall, getting people to trust the brand, be loyal to the brand, building a large community around the brand, trying to make sure that people stay in touch, keep coming back, and building that recommendation engine or referral engine I should say where consumers who have a positive experience Going back and evangelizing and making sure that you are getting new business from satisfied customers in b2b, or average taking complex sales that’s, you know, very much in a one to one basis in b2c that’s going to be for transactional stuff much more large scale.

    So focusing on things like reviews, sites, product reviews, ratings, depending on where you sell, there may be a built in rating system if you’re selling your product on on Amazon, for example, gathering up Amazon reviews, weeding out trolls and robots etc.

    No matter which type of sale you’re you are working with in terms of complexity.

    The number one thing you need to do when you make the switch from one company to the next is look at the overall buyers journey awareness, consideration, evaluation purchase and However granular your new company gets you I’ve seen some people with operations funnels that look 15 stages of funnel, whatever the organization does, you’re going to map out your key performance indicators, your here your funnel metrics from stage to stage and that funnel and determine at what stage Do you lose customers the most? Is it from website visitor to prospect is from prospect to qualified lead is it from lead to sale.

    And again, regardless of whether it’s simple or complex sale, you may have just an audience and go right into a credit card purchase but there will still be stages at which that audience member is giving things like consideration and evaluation plan.

    They may not do a whole lot of it.

    Right? No one almost no one We’ll spend months researching a pack of chewing gum.

    But there will still be that moment of consideration when they come they get up the supermarket counter, you look at it go look at the price, they look at the packaging.

    Yeah.

    And either they pick it up and buy it or not map out your operations funnel and then start by fixing the least well performing stage in the buyers journey as long as it’s under marketing’s control, it’s not under sales.

    It’s not a sales issue.

    If the company is that divided and fixed the least well performing stage and marketing the least performing stage that you are responsible for and you will automatically create multipliers of growth everywhere else.

    So, if you have awareness consideration evaluation purchase and the transition rate or the conversion rate from awareness to consideration is 10%.

    And consideration to evaluation is 2%.

    And evaluation of purchases 15% fix that consideration to evaluation phase, if you could take that from 2% to 3%, you’re going to have 50% more sales downstream, right? Because you have increased that stages conversion rate by 50%.

    A lot of people tend to focus on what they know best, or what is easiest to fix.

    Fix the thing that’s most broken.

    And you will see multipliers of of performance down funnel it it’s the one the easiest simplest tactics I can I can recommend.

    Now, depending on what the problem is fixing the underlying problem may not be so easy but at least in terms of what’s your first order of business, your first order of business.

    And this is true even for if you’re in your job right now.

    You’ve been there for I don’t know 15 years.

    Do that exercise map out your marketing operations follow map out the stages, from stage to stage and figure out Okay, where are things broken? Where have we fallen down the most? And what can we do to improve that and again, if you can improve conversion rate from one to 2% you’ve automatically doubled the performance of everything thereafter in the funnel because you’re sending twice as much traffic through that stage is like a, it was like kids sand toys with the sands going from stage to stage and rock gets stuck in one of them and clogs it, remove that clog.

    Everything else from there on out flows.

    So that’s the immediate tip.

    Again, regardless of its b2c b2b, simpler, complex sale, map out your operations funnel.

    Remove the clogs.

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