Christopher S. Penn – Marketing AI Keynote Speaker

Category: Brand

Branded Organic Search: The One PR Metric Almost No One Uses
Public relations and brand folks measure lots of things, but almost none of them use the one metric that would prove the value of their work.

What is that measure?

Branded organic search queries.

What Is Branded Organic Search?

A branded organic search query is when someone searches for you by name – your company name, your products or services, your key employees, anything that indicates they know who you are and they have some interest in you.

What drives branded organic search?

Simply put, it’s when someone wants to know more about you. Not your category, not your industry, not the generic problem they have – no, they are looking for more information about you by name.

How do you create that kind of branded demand? Through things like advertising and PR, word of mouth. When you ask a friend for a recommendation and they say, “oh, go check out X company’s stuff” or “Go listen to X band” or “Go visit X’s website”, that’s branded demand. And branded demand is inherently more valuable than other kinds of search intent because there’s less competition.

For example, someone searching for “marketing consulting” is going to have a lot of different options. On the other hand, someone searching for “Trust Insights” really only has one thing in mind at the moment.

How to Measure Branded Organic Search?

How do you measure branded organic search queries?

This is provided to us for free by Google Search Console, and you can view it there, in Google Data Studio, or extracted using third party software. If you’re a public relations professional at an agency, you’ll need to ask for access to Google Search Console data, or ask for extracts from Search Console from your clients.

Here’s an example of branded search queries in Google Search Console, filtering query results by my name:

Here’s an example of branded search queries in Google Data Studio. I’ve connected to my Google Search Console account with the appropriate connector, then filtered the data to only use my branded search terms (mainly my name):

What we see here is fairly clear; we see impressions – the number of times a website came up in search results from the bucket of branded search terms – and clicks, the indicator that the site seemed relevant to the searcher.

It’s important to note that these are filtered ONLY to brand terms. That’s what we care about – people searching for us by name.

This is a great, important first step for any PR professional. Just reporting on branded search alone shows you have an understanding of how customers behave in the modern era. Any time we’re wondering about something, a Google search is literally a click or a tap away – so we should be measuring that on behalf of our brands.

How to Tie Branded Search Back to PR Efforts

You could make the argument that just because branded search term queries are on the increase from any number of reasons – advertising, great products, etc. So how do we know public relations efforts are the driver?

This is where we get slightly more sophisticated in our analysis. Nearly every media monitoring tool offers some kind of data export. In this case, I’ll export my media mentions from the last 90 days from the excellent Brand24 service (the service I use for media monitoring) into a spreadsheet. Then I’ll take my Search Console branded search query data and export it as well. I recommend using long timeframes – at least 90 days, ideally much more – so that you can smooth out any anomalies.

Using the statistical tool of your choice – Excel, Tableau, R, Python, etc. – summarize both data sets by date and then match the two sets of data up by date:

Now, run the correlation test of your choice. Excel users using the CORREL() function will be doing a Pearson correlation, which for this use case is good enough. If you have a choice, like in R or Python, use a Spearman correlation for this kind of data because marketing data is often not linear.

What do I find in my own PR data?

What we see, outlined in the red box, is a weak correlation between media mentions and branded search impressions, and a slightly weaker correlation between media mentions and branded search clicks. This makes intuitive sense; I don’t do any proactive public relations work on my personal website, so there wouldn’t necessarily be a ton of media mentions to work with. If I was paying a PR team or a PR firm to do outreach and such on my behalf, I would expect this statistical relationship to be stronger.

This is a very simple test to see if there is a relationship at all. For a more thorough analysis, you’d want to do something like multi-touch attribution analysis or uplift modeling to find out just how much of an impact PR has on your overall marketing strategy, but if you can’t prove even a basic correlation to branded organic search, then you know PR isn’t really doing much for you.

On the other hand, if the correlation is strong – above 0.4, ideally above 0.5 – then you know PR is knocking it out of the park for you and driving measurable search traffic to your site. Since most companies earn 40-60% of their overall traffic from search and many see branded search convert the best, this begins to surface the real, monetary value of effective PR.

Branded Organic Search Isn’t the Only Measure of PR

It’s important to note here as we conclude that branded organic search queries isn’t the only metric of PR’s effectiveness, but it’s a great one and one overlooked by almost every PR professional I know. If no one is ever searching for your brand by name, you’ve got a big problem. Set up your Google Search Console or Google Data Studio dashboard today for branded organic search queries, and start measuring how in demand your brand is!

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August 9, 2021
You Ask, I Answer: Which Brand KPIs?
Jen asks, “What are some solid KPIs that you will be looking for next year?”

Recall that our definition of a KPI is any metric for which you either get a bonus or fired. This poses a quandary for marketers responsible for brand, since brand tends to be one of the least well-measured metrics a company has. Fortunately, there are 4 metrics you can watch to gauge the strength of your brand.
- Branded organic search – broken out by sentiment
- NPS scores – buy again and recommend
- Social mentions in a recommendation context
- Point of conversion questions (how did you hear about us/what made you come in today)
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Christopher Penn In today’s episode, Jen asks, what are some solid KPIs that brands are we looking for this year and next year? So good question because brand KPIs traditionally for marketers have been a little difficult to measure, a lot of marketers struggle to measure brand in any meaningful capacity partly because for a lot of us, we have a very difficult time even expressing the definition of what a brand is.

The the definition I tend to enjoy is one by z, Frank from way back in 2006, where he said a brand is a an emotional aftertaste from a series of experiences.

And so I think that’s a fantastic definition.

How do you measure that? How do you calculate that? How do you make that something that is less subjective and more objective sense at its core, it is Emotional? Well, there’s a bunch of different numbers we can use to try to quantify brand.

But when it comes to KPIs, remember that the definition of a KPI is a metric for which you either get a bonus or fired, right? Anything that has no serious meaningful consequences in either direction is just a metric, right? If I saw somebody on social media was saying, you know, social media reach, I would not want to be held accountable for that because you had, there’s, you have very little control over that, at least on the unpaid side.

As social algorithms continue to ratchet the screws, right.

There’s very little that you can do as a marketer.

That will give you reliable, repeatable, measurable results.

You can do all kinds of stunts.

But did that really change anything from the business perspective brand has a lot of metal tracks that are meaningful from a business perspective will have a strong mathematical relationship and possibly a causal relationship to money in the bank.

So what are those metrics? Number one, branded organic search, meaning somebody goes to a search engine and types in your brand name is a good metric of brand, especially when you categorize your brand organic searches by sentiment and intent.

So if you’re say, Toyota, and you search for an hour talk about the Prius, if you search for a Toyota Prius, that’s a neutral brand intent, right? It’s someone just looking for the brand.

If you’re looking for Toyota Prius recalls or Toyota Prius sucks.

It’s pretty clear what you’re searching for, is not a lot of ambiguity about the intent of that query.

If you’re looking for Toyota Prius reviews or Toyota Prius recommendations or Toyota Prius prices? Those are a little more on the positive side, right? You’re you’re trying to ascertain, is this something that I should buy? I’ve heard things about it, the things might be good, I should probably check it and see what other people have said.

So that sort of spread organic search is a powerful tool for measuring brand.

Number two, NPS scores are essential for brands.

So an NPS score Net Promoter Score is a two question survey that brands ask customers.

The first question is, what is the likelihood that you would recommend it was likelihood that you would buy from us again in the next 90 days? And number two is what is the likelihood that you would recommend us to a friend or colleague in the next 90 days, core of zero to 10, right, and companies that do NPS really well measure that at every transaction.

One of my favorite airlines Jet Blue, sends out an NPS score for every leg of A trip.

So not just how was your flight to San Diego and back? It was how was your flight from Boston to San Diego? How was your flight from San Diego back to Boston, two separate customer experiences and therefore two different NPS scores because it could be that your experience with the the San Diego based ground crew was not great, right? And they want to know that.

So it was really smart, good usage of NPS scores.

Third, to a lesser degree, social media mentions and a recommendation context This requires advanced text mining, and in many cases is actually not worth it.

Unless you’re a very large brand, but social media mentions in a recommendation context are when somebody asks on Reddit or Facebook or Twitter.

Can anyone recommend a hybrid car? If you can identify that question and and then the subsequent answers, everyone says Toyota Prius, guess what you Brands doing well, if everyone says avoid the Toyota Prius like, okay, so our brand and marketing is not gone so well.

Right? And number four, which I think is one that is deeply underused by marketers, is point of conversion questions.

When you fill out a form on a website, when you text a brand, when you walk into their store, when you send them an email, Heck, even when you subscribe to the newsletter, if you as the brand not asking a question like how did you hear about us or what made you come in today, you’re missing a key opportunity to measure the strength of your brand.

If you’re asking how did you hear about us, and nobody says like Facebook, and you’re all in on Facebook marketing, guess what? You’ve got a problem.

Right? That is a a serious mismatch between the effectiveness of your brand and and the things that you’re trying to Do right and that starts to get into, like social media brand KPIs, which is a whole other story than just the brand KPI overall.

But if you had to pick one of those To start with, I would start with that categorization of branded organic search.

Because again, as was detailed in the book, everybody lies.

People type things into a search engine, they would not ask another human being right, they are more honest there because they think they’re not being watched, even though they everything they do with their search engines being watched.

As such that honesty allows them to ask questions of search engines, and get reasonable answers.

And so if you can measure that and you don’t need like, gazillion dollar technology to do that, you can if there’s not a lot of search volume, you can, you can make the intern count up the numbers in your SEO tool.

of choice.

Better uses for in terms of that.

But if you had nothing else, that’s where you could start.

Any good SEO tool should help you with that Google Search Console, the free tools from Google will help you with that.

So that’s where I would start.

If you have nothing else, then I would go to point of conversion questions because you have total control over that at every point in the conversion process, and then look at the other options afterwards.

So that’s how to do brand KPIs or how to start doing brand KPIs.

Understand that brand, and market research our professions unto themselves within marketing, you can hire a market researcher to do all this stuff, it will be reassuringly expensive, but it is a profession unto itself.

So start with the metrics I mentioned.

And then once you feel confident in those numbers and your collection methods, and you have numbers from what you can make a decision about what to change, then you can take on more and more Advanced market research as well.

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December 12, 2019
The Dangers of Brand Dilution
One of my favorite definitions of brand is by artist and comedian Ze Frank, who defines brand as:

An emotional aftertaste from a set of experiences.

Brand is identity, true, but it’s also how that identity feels, how it resonates with us. When we think about our favorite brands, we don’t consider those brands dispassionately. We don’t see brands as merely a collection of data points. Our reactions to brands are emotional – how the brands make us feel. Brand is emotion because emotion is what triggers recognition.

If brand is an emotional aftertaste, then brand dilution is when we spread that taste too thin, like too little butter on toast. We can spread a brand too thin by using it everywhere for everything, or by applying it to things that don’t live up to their promise.

For example, one of the worst cases of brand dilution I can think of is Wolfgang Puck. The famous TV chef licenses his name to just about everything food-related, even food that’s terrible quality. Here’s an example of his brand at an airport food kiosk which serves terrible food:

If you put the famous chef in front of the case bearing his name, what are the chances he’d say that the recipes were his own and were being displayed in the way he wants to be known? Probably zero.

What are the chances, if you were able to invite him to your kitchen, that he’d cook exactly what’s in the case if asked to produce that dish? Also probably zero.

What are the chances that, if you put his name-branded food on a plate in front of him, unlabeled, he’d think it were anything other than mediocre? Still probably zero.

Yet, he permits his brand – and a personal brand at that – to be used for things which are clearly out of alignment with what his brand stands for.

What happens when a brand dilutes itself? Our brand anchors, the memories that create the emotional aftertaste, change. They shift. They become anchored to the majority of the experiences we have with the brand, a new aftertaste. My anchor to Puck’s brand has shifted over the years. When I see Wolfgang Puck’s name on a product, the feeling it conjures up isn’t the sensual power of food his publicist is probably hoping for. It instead summons up crappy quality goods at very high prices, like the airport sandwich bar or crappy hotel room coffee, laughably billed as “Wolfgang Puck’s Chef’s Reserve”.

What does your brand stand for?

What emotions do you want associated with your brand?

Be very careful who you lend your brand to, who may use your name. If the product or service doesn’t fulfill your promise, your brand will suffer until the only emotional aftertaste left is bitterness.

Be doubly careful with your personal brand! It’s relatively easy to switch companies. Ruining your personal brand is just as easy and takes far longer and far more work to repair.

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August 16, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: Personal Branding in 2019
Bruno asks, “What is your main advice to someone getting started on building a reputation and working on personal branding in 2019?”

Search is back on top of the pile when it comes to people finding us and driving traffic. Watch the video and take these 5 steps to build your personal brand and reputation in the modern era.
- Decide what you want to be known for
- Create things that reinforce what you want to be known for
  - A portfolio / case studies / book of business / golden rolodex
- Build your home base
- Build your outposts
- Advertise as necessary
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In today’s episode, Bruno asks, What is your main advice to someone getting started on building a reputation and working on personal branding? In 2019?

Oh, that’s a interesting one. So

let’s,

let’s set a definition first.

personal brand is just a fancy term for reputations. How does someone build a reputation in 2019? And the answer is, the same way that you build a reputation have,

since time I’m aware of which is be known for being good at something. That’s, that’s the fundamental underpinning of everything. If you are not good at anything, get good at something first, and then build a reputation around it. So we’re going to presume that you know what you’re good at.

Or you have decided what you want to be known for. And it’s okay for that to change. It is absolutely okay for that to pivot pick something that you have an aptitude for, that you enjoy doing, that you’re good at. And that is a skill or a focus or you capability that the market is willing to pay for.

So that’s number one. Number two, is you need to create stuff that reinforces what you want to be known for. So if you are a graphic designer, guess what you need a portfolio I mean, need an extensive one, even

if, you know even if you don’t, you haven’t done a ton of commercial gigs. Even if you haven’t had more than a few jobs.

You still need to have that, that demonstration of your capabilities.

And that can be all mockups that can be all comps that can be all

examples can be school work, but fundamentally you need to demonstrate your skills. If you are a strategist, guess what you need case studies. maybe don’t have any go make some right go volunteer to nonprofit, go volunteer at a local civic organization. But demonstrate your capabilities you know how to think you know what you’re doing. If you are a sales professional, and guess what, you better have a golden Rolodex, you better have a network.

And even someone who is relatively young, relatively Junior can be networking can be building their reputation can be putting together sales materials. So whatever

profession you’re in whatever

focus you have for a career and for reputation, you can you need to have that stuff.

where most people go wrong. As they reverse these two things. They go out and they build their home base in their social media outpost, set their Instagram channel and and

set up LinkedIn and go all

crazy building the outposts. But they don’t build the portfolio, you need to build a portfolio of stuff first, because it makes it much easier, easier to build your own personal website to build your social media channels and things. If you know what it is you want to share what you want to talk about.

If you do it in reverse order, you create a whole bunch of things, then you have to go back and rework it later. Or you create a bunch of stuff that’s substandard, and you make a terrible first impression. So get that portfolio in order. And, again, if

you don’t have a ton of experience, there is no shortage of organizations in this world that would love your help, for free, you’ll have to do you will have to work for free.

And the beginning to build that.

That book of business, whatever that looks like. Then

build your home base. And that is a website that is under your control that has a domain name that people can remember easily. So that you can direct people there to find things like a resume or CV or LinkedIn profile videos about you your blog.

You should plan on blogging.

Yes, it seems like a an archaic thing to do in the age of Instagram and the and the selfie, but in terms of being able to prove that you are a capable communicator, which is an essential skill, regardless of profession these days. And in order to help search engines find you, and and especially if you have a name that is somewhat unique, you

need to have that that home base on the internet. And that is

powered by a blog that is powered by relevant fresh, frequent

content. So plan on blogging, if you are early in your career, you probably have some free time to do it. If you don’t have,

for example, the major obligations that folks a little more gray hair to have like you know, family.

Yeah, and you just have a dog or whatever, you have the time to invest in yourself, build out that that blog, that weekly or monthly email newsletter, where you share stuff that is maybe not all yours, maybe it’s 8020 80%

other people’s stuff that you curate, and then you provide perspective on and 20% stuff that’s yours. Then you build your outposts, your social media, outposts, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, where that wherever it is that you think your audience is the people that you want to reach the people whose you want your reputation to proceed you to go where they are,

build those outposts share content on them, that helps

illustrate that you know what you’re talking about that you know who the players are any space. And if necessary, if it’s essential, you you may need to spend a few dollars, not many, but a few dollars on advertising your website or your blog to the relevant

managers or hiring managers or recruiters what the case may be, to build that reputation to build that awareness that you exist, and that you are available. And that you are worth talking to.

This takes time.

So if you are thinking about a career change,

or

you know it is April 2019, as I record this, you’re graduating in a couple of months, you kind of behind the eight ball level, you need to kick things up into gear, ideally,

you spend three or four months working on that, that portfolio building out the materials approval you are, let me spend a couple of months promoting it. So it is sort of a six month process. If you’re crunched on time. Still build those case studies, you’re just gonna have to spend

a little more time up front on yourself. So as much as

I personally don’t think that the the whole, you know, work 20 hour days and and sleep four hours a day thing. It’s that’s not a sustainable thing you can do in the long run. But if you are

if you know that like a company layoff is coming, or you know that you’re graduating soon, it wouldn’t hurt to burn the midnight oil a couple of times to bolster that book of business that you can show, hey, here’s

what I’m good at. And then start promoting that. So a good question, a tough question. There’s a lot that goes into this. And there’s a lot of time and care that you have to

put into it and invest in yourself. And that is the part that I think is the most important. When you’re building your reputation, your personal brand, it is an investment in yourself and just for the long term.

You absolutely can pivot and change what you’re known for, but it takes time. It takes a long time I used to be known as the podcasting person or one of the podcasting people back in 2005. I pivoted to analytics in 2009. I pivoted to data science and machine learning and in 2014 2015,

so there’s it takes time to change these reputations. Make logical flows from one to the next. So it’s not something that happens overnight.

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April 15, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How To Measure Personal Brand?
Bruno asks, “What is the channel that most impacts your personal branding?”

That’s an interesting question and is contingent on a couple of things:
– How we measure our personal brands
– How we align that data with our channel data

The statistical technique you’d use to find the answer is something called driver analysis, which is a fancy term for multivariate regression analysis. Watch the video to find out how to measure your brand.

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In today’s episode, Bruno asks, What is the channel that most impacts your personal branding?

That’s an interesting question.

It’s going to

depend on a couple things. Number one, it’s going to depend on

how do you measure your personal brand? Or how do you measure any brand? And then to how do you align your channel data

with your,

with your personal brand data. So

to begin,

measuring a brand

is probably one of the most complex and difficult things you can do in marketing because

brand is in a Morpheus term, there are so many definitions of of what a brand is.

My personal favorite definition is by a comedian named a frank who says,

brand is the emotional aftertaste

of a series of experiences and he goes on the site. That’s why the term grandma’s cookies gives you a certain emotional

sense, but old people’s cookies, not as much, even though they’re synonymous terms.

There’s definitely a cognitive dissonance between the two.

So that’s a good example of brand. So what is your brand? What is your personal brand? I would, I would argue it’s the the

ability for you to be known. Mitch Joel has a great expression for this as well. It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.

And I think that’s a great starting point for the measurement of a personal brand.

It’s not who you know, it’s who knows you.

So

you may have things like social media audiences, or email lists of things. But at the end of the day,

if no one remembers you, if no one knows who you are, if no one knows what you do, then

I would say that you have you don’t have a strong personal brand.

So how would you find that? How would you get that information, but easiest place would be

if you have a personal website, and you really should. These days,

if you

have a personal website that has Google Search Console setup,

what you would want to do is look in Google Search Console for branded organic search, which means people searching for you by name.

Now, if you have a common name, where you share a name with someone who’s famous, that can be tricky, believe me, I know there’s a a deceased actor who shares my name, and I’m still trying to outrank him and search and it’s been 12 years since he died. Sorry for the family. Still working on that.

But

using organic search data, branded organic search table data, the number of people who search for Christopher Penn

and and click

through to my website, because that clearly indicates that I was the person they were searching for, not the actor,

measuring that over time as a

great proxy for that

brand. And then long tail queries about your name too. So Christopher Penn

analytics Christopher Penn and data Christopher Penn and Google Analytics Christopher Penn and machine learning Christopher Penn and AI, those are all things that I

would want someone

to be searching for,

that are relevant to me that are relevant to what I do. So

think about

your own brand terms. What are the brand terms that

you have?

That you’d want to track? To see how, how are people finding me? How are people finding what I do.

So that’s part one,

is getting your branded search data together, your render organic search did together

to part two is alignment that data with your channel data, which means extracting out all of your

Twitter data, your Facebook data, wherever it is you’re posting your email marketing statistics, your LinkedIn stuff, your blog, and putting it all in a giant spreadsheet

with your branded organic search data as

sort of the outcome of the goal that you’re

after.

And you would run

something called driver analysis would you can learn a whole lot

more over if you watch any of the webinars, trust insights,

Ai, my company’s website, the whole bunch of things on predictive analytics, look for predictive analytics talks. But what you’re essentially doing this what’s called driver analysis, which is a fancy way of talking about multivariate regression analysis. And what you are

doing is trying to figure out

what combination of variables

like number of tweets per day or

new signups to your news letter, or

any of these things that you do, what of the of all things that you do have a relationship to branded organic search

have a mathematical relationship that you can then go and test so you find out that tweets on Tuesdays plus

emails longer than 1000 lines, that’s a really long email. But

if those combination of things really

seem to have a highest mathematical relationship with personal brand searches,

then you have the opportunity to go test that it’s okay. If tweets on Tuesdays is one of the things that that the analysis says is really important. Guess what I’m going to

double the tweet, the amount of tweeting I do on Tuesdays and see if the branded organic search number goes up by proportional amount.

So it

really is, you find the relationships, and then you test the relationships for causality. If If emails are the thing, tried doubling the number of emails for a short period of time does the amount of branded organic search and double

as well.

Make sure if possible in your calculations that you account for lag.

So knowing how long it takes for your brand to become known, if someone receives an email from you, how long does it take for them to search you?

That’s something that you can also compute within the data.

So that’s

the

answer to that question.

Your answer is going to be different than my answer. When you run this analysis, it is going to be very, very different. The way we do things what we do how we do all will vary. So there is no good answer that you could pick up from me and apply to your own marketing Do you have your own personal market just doesn’t work. You are a different person. You have

different

channels, you are effective in different places, and it’s not going to work

the same.

So keep that in mind.

So what channel most impacts my personal branding,

I don’t know I haven’t run the analysis yet. This will take some time. But that’s how to do it. That’s how to end the by the way this is same method

goes beyond personal brand it works for your company’s brand it works for your products or services and their brand. So

try this out with your own data

and see what answering you and your analytics teams come up

with.

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April 9, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How Brokers and Agents Market With a Brand?
Mila asks, “In the insurance industry, there are several models of distribution. The insurer or direct model, online, through agents and brokers. Interestingly insurers who work through brokers spend significants amounts of money in developing online marketing sharing some of this with their brokers, but those who jump on board with that, in a way lose their individuality and identity. Is that better than not doing anything at all?”

This is a fascinating question that affiliates, value-added resellers, and brokers have been struggling with for years. The answer to this problem is based on what your competitive advantage is as a reseller.
- Geography/territory: focus on being locally helpful and useful so the brand halo translates to a local level
- Price: avoid competing on price – it’s a race to the bottom
- Value: what value does the reseller add?
- Brand: how does the reseller bolster the brand and provide a unique take on it?
- Operations: can you market more effectively than other resellers?
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In today’s episode Milla asks in the insurance industry there’s several models of distribution, the ensure or direct model online through agents and brokers. Interestingly, insurance who worked through brokers spend significant amounts of money, developing online marketing, and then sharing it with their brokers. Those who jump on board with that in we lose their individuality and identity. Is it is that better than not doing anything at all?

Interesting question. This is a question that affiliates value added resellers brokers agents have been struggling with three years. And the answer to this problem is dependent on where your competitive advantage it’s now is using somebody else’s marketing like it using the brand’s marketing better than not doing anything at all? Yes, absolutely. Because you’ve got to do something to attract audiences, get them to consider your products, evaluate you, and then make a purchase from you. So franchisees, for example, in the fast food world use and leverage the the halo of the parent brand, the national brand in order to sell, you know, hamburgers locally, for example. So there is definite value to using what the parent brand is sending out. Unless the parent brands marketing is terrible, in which case, yeah, you might be better off doing it yourself. And then just selling that as one of a basket of products. It depends on the type of company you are, I used to work in the financial services industry, and we sold loans from four or five different providers. And a lot of cases, we built our own brand because we wanted to be able to be provider agnostic, to be able to sell stuff from Citibank or stuff from chase or stuff from you know, this bank over here. And by having that that separate brand the we were able to do that and have that flexibility especially because in that industry products and services and companies change so fast all the time. So there’s really four vectors that you can do reseller level marketing at number one. And the worst one by far is price baking your brand and your promise on price, it’s a race to the bottom and there’s always going to be somebody cheaper. So avoid just just avoid doing that. Number two is geography and territory. If you are part of an organization which a lot to a certain specific geography and territory, then you have the opportunity as long as you have a unique hold on that territory to be able to market to it and provide a unique spin on that. So whether it’s a fast food restaurant or an insurance company, what are the things that you can do that a brand consistent but locally focused, and that could be everything from sponsoring, you know, the cleanup a highway kind of stuff, too much more complex things like being having products and services in the mix that are tailored to the environment you’re in. So in insurance, for example, if you are marketing to Cape Cod, Massachusetts, you going to have a very different perspective than you are say, if you’re marketing to, you know, the the Worcester area which is about 45 miles to the west, Cape Cod is ocean front, literally. So your products and services going to be different, your rates are going to be different. The types of things you will cover will be different. You can do that local advertising, local marketing being locally helpful, and you may even tackle things that are hyper local. For example, you may want to do a mapping of local pizza shops in the restaurant and purchase advertising on tops of pizza boxes for your hyper local area, just the area that you serve. So geography is certainly an aspect the third area is the value itself What value does the reseller add what comes with your purchase of insurance from affiliate Neil 1272 verses? If I wouldn’t purchase from affiliate 1218 What’s the value what is do you add on to add additional consultations do you add add on products what’s the perspective and this is where content marketing and and sort of inbound marketing really comes in handy because you can create helpful content, local content, unique content, things that allow you to differentiate yourself online and frankly there there may be additional opportunities, little niches little things that people just not paying attention to. Again, even little PDF handouts like hey, if you are a Massachusetts resident, you should be doing this with your insurance or at the end of every year if you are a Nebraska resident, these are the 15 things you should be doing to to bolster your coverage and the fourth thing is brand which is how does the reseller bolster the national brand or take advantage of the brand Halo provide a unique take on it. So if you are, say, a coffee shop owner, right? I’m a chain of coffee shops, you’re going to have some standardization, you know, the, the wood paneling inside has to be a certain color, the logo is displayed in a certain way. But then what’s unique, what is it what is the the spin on that, that you can provide that local that is fixated on what you your restaurant or or company or organization or franchise can provide that is an enhancement. And sometimes that may be personal. So for example, this this coffee shop over here is managed by Bob and Bob is but Neil spent 40 years doing coffee and will answer your questions about things that you know, secrets from Bob that you won’t get from any other coffee shop in this chain. So things that are are on brand and align to the brand but are your perspective and I guess a fifth one now that I think about it would be operations marketing operations, are you simply a better tactical marketer? Can you check the boxes can do more than check the boxes and excel at marketing within any of these categories? Can you market better locally, can you mark create better content, so how is your marketing operations, those are the ways that a reseller and affiliate or broker or an agent can do more and and when at a local level. Even when their parent company is giving them things now the only catches the restrictions that your your parent franchise or parent brand puts on you. Some brands are super, super prescriptive, and say you must only do these things and nothing else. And if that’s the case, you follow the directions that you’re given. And you or you, you decide, you know what I’m going to opt out of being a member of this particular franchise the which if you think that you can make a better go of it, then what the Nationals providing you do it there are lots and lots of startups that have one or two or three for your five locations where they’ve said, yeah, we want to do more than what our national is allowing us to do if you’re working with a more flexible national, that gives you some flexibility about how you use the brand gives you guidelines obviously, but does not put total handcuffs on you then you can start taking advantage of these vectors. So price pretty much no no geography or territory value brand and operations. So those are the five factors that you can use to improve upon them a brand in a reseller arrangement. But

to answer the original question, yes, doing anything in marketing, as long as you do it well is better than doing nothing at all, especially if the national brand has spent a lot of money and has done their research and their creative Well, you want to take advantage of those those assets. So great question. Interesting question. Fun question. If you have additional questions, please leave them in the comments. And of course, please subscribe to the YouTube channel on the newsletter I’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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January 7, 2019
You Ask, I Answer: How to Measure Brand Awareness
Ciri asks, “What’s the best way to measure brand awareness? Among all the searching I’ve done, it seems like people have a lot of different takes on measuring brand awareness.”

The gold standard for how to measure brand awareness is unaided recall among your target audience, which typically requires a significant (five to six figures) but worthwhile investment in a market research firm like Edison Research. That said, you can begin to sort out brand awareness from a series of digital metrics that can inform your market research. The metrics to consider are:
- Branded organic search, and the metrics it generates
- Coverage, and the metrics it generates
- Conversation, and the metrics it generates
- Downfunnel metrics and business outcomes
These three categories will generate something on the order of several hundred variables to process, which requires some data science techniques to properly process.
- Ingestion and cleaning
- Centering and scaling
- Variable importance measurement
- Outcome modeling
- Intermediary KPI modeling
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In today’s episode, Ciri asks, What’s the best way to measure brand awareness? Among all the searching I’ve done? That seems like people have a lot of different takes on measuring brand awareness. Absolutely. People have tons of different takes on measuring brand awareness. A lot of those things being done at and put out there are by individual vendors promoting their software. There is there are a couple of different ways to measure brand awareness. The gold standard for measuring brand awareness is unaided recall surveying among your target audience. So if your target audience is Chief Technology officers, you would commission a market research firm to check in with them once a quarter or whatever and say hey

in your experience, please name five vendors who provide I don’t know email marketing services and see what these people remember. unprompted unaided. See if they recall Hall your brand and they do great, you’re you have brand awareness within your target segment. If it never name your brand at all. Is it okay, well, we’re not reaching the target audience. Now, market research. Proper market research requires significant investment. The firm I recommend typically is a company called Edison research. They do top shelf market research. And they do it properly.

There are a lot of companies to call themselves market research companies. But

market research like that should be the my friend Tom Webster who works at Edison research calls it reassuringly expensive,

you should be planning on your mid five figures to low six figures for the budget to do something like that. Because you’re you’re going to want to check in with these people frequently. And you need somebody if your audiences like senior executives, you’re going to need credible market research companies. To get to those executives. You can’t just spin up a survey monkey and email them and you’ll get like a completely statistically insignificant response, right.

So

the second way, which is a precursor to the market research is to use some of your digital metrics to start to assemble a score that will inform your market research, it is not a replacement for market research, it is a a prerequisite of the market research to make sure that you’re doing the things you need to do in order to get people in the door. And

that digital metric

combination really comes out of four buckets. bucket number one is a branded organic search the number of people who search for you by name over time, and then the conversion metrics that go along with that. So the brand number of brand organic searches, returning users to brand organic searches, etc, etc, etc. That’s going to be you know, 2030 variables

if it was a spreadsheet, like 20 columns coverage, so public relations, media relations, influencer relations, whose

writing about you, what are they writing? What’s this sentiment? What’s the tone? What’s the importance? What’s the SEO value, what are the number of clicks on articles, social shares, all those metrics around coverage are a second big bucket that’s you’re gonna you’re talking

potentially another spreadsheet of 50 or 60 columns. The third is conversation, people talking about you, and this could be influencers, but it could also be regular people, your target audience, and then all the subsequent metrics that those generate likes, comments, shares,

pro profile clicks, all the works, that’s going to be a gigantic spreadsheet. And finally, in the fourth bucket, you’re going to need off your down funnel metrics. So you have your awareness sort of top of funnel, then you have web traffic, new users, returning users time on page by segment, goal conversions, and then you get out of web analytics. You go into marketing, online system, your

marketing, qualified leads, sales, qualified leads, opportunities, deals, one deals, loft, etc.

You’re going to need to put together the spreadsheet and the spreadsheets going to have

probably several hundred columns,

you will need data science

techniques to properly process this data.

There is no there’s no human way to do this, at least not in anything that would take you less than two years are you doing nothing but that

because it is a massive undertaking

the it’s a five step process you need to do ingestion and cleaning mean take all the data info the sources, clean it up, fixed, missing, or broken data, remove anomalies, and so on, and so forth. So that’s step one. Step two is what’s called centering and scaling where you need to normalize the data so that you can do apples to apples comparisons a little more cleanly. For example, if you are looking at branded organic search, and you’re looking at social conversation, this is going to be have very different scales. So it’s very difficult to do a comparison of those metrics without normalizing them scaling sent to them, scale them, make them more like each other. The third step is doing what’s called variable importance identification. And that is that a lot of cases that’s going to take actual machine learning to run

every possible combination of those variables against a, a, an outcome, a target, like

sales,

and figure out which metrics in combination have a high correlation to the

actual outcome you care about.

We know that, you know, there’s, there’s a sequence within the funnel, people don’t necessarily, you know, they don’t follow linearly, but they there is a path from awareness to purchase, people don’t make a purchase without awareness. That’s a, that’s a logical. So the variable importance measurement helps you identify the variables, a mathematically high relationship,

once you’ve done that you’ve gotten rid of, you know, 80, 90%

of the variables that don’t have any mathematical relationship to the outcome you care about, you’ll want to build a couple of models, you’re going to build an outcome model which says, Hey, we, if we want more sales, we need to test doing more of these things. And then you’ll go back and rerun variable importance to do what’s called intermediary KPI modeling.

And this is especially for bigger companies.

There are a lot of dependencies on a sale

problem. I used to have it at a company just to work with was that marketing kept being asked for more and more and more leads every quarter more leads, more leads, more leads, and sales was closing at something like a 1% closing rate. So benchmarking off of sales, as the only outcome meant that a lot of marketing data got thrown out. Because the salespeople were incompetent. They they couldn’t have sold fire to a freezing person, and

so intimidated KPI modeling says, okay, for your department, what outcome Do you have responsibility for if you work in corporate communications awareness, maybe the variable to measure for if you’re the web guy or the web girl, you know, new traffic to the website is your KPI. And so you’ll want to rerun that variable importance for each departmental outcome so that each department understands, hey, these are the things that

we know contribute to the outcome that we care about. And again, build models for that. And then the last step of the process is, once you’ve got these models, you have to test them. If, for example, tweets on Tuesdays, that contain a poop emoji have the highest mathematical correlation to the outcome you care about. You cannot assume that correlation equals causality, you have to build a testing plan to say, Okay, now let’s do five more tweets on Tuesdays and put three poop emoji and the tweeting instead of two and see if that commensurate increase in activity

yields to the command a commensurate increase a proportional increase in outcome. And so there’s that testing plan to bring to life that model and and validate that the model either works or does not work it this is the scientific method, just using a lot more math and data, you come up with a hypothesis, you test it, you analyze it, you find your hypothesis, until you’re you have a proven model. And that’s how you develop a working model, a working measurement model for brand awareness. You can’t just throw a bunch of numbers on a spreadsheet, average them and add them all up and call it brand awareness. Because you don’t actually know what does and does not contribute. You have to go through this process of testing. And you need to use data science and machine learning if you want the model to be credible and proven and and develop a testing plan that is workable because again, if you’ve got a spreadsheet with 500 variables, testing each one and then testing each combination of one you have run out a lifetime before you you get through you. One testing machine has to help you do it. So great question is a complex question and it requires data science help. It’s not something that you can build a credible model for by yourself just with a spreadsheet. If you have follow up questions, please leave them in the comments. And of course, subscribe to the YouTube channel newsletter

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December 13, 2018
You Ask, I Answer: Local Value-Added Reseller Marketing
Ava asks, “How can a local reseller market effectively against entrenched brands and big box stores?”

Local resellers – like plumbing supply, home decor, electronics, appliance showrooms, etc. – fit in the category of value-added reseller. The key is the value-added part – a reseller is typically more expensive than a big box retail store or the ubiquitous Amazon, so how a reseller communicates value is essential. Watch the video for full details.

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Consumers want:
– Better
– Faster
– Cheaper

VARs cannot beat, for the most part, cheaper.

The strategy, then, is build a strong brand on your value, which by definition must be better and/or faster. What constitutes better? Service, and the knowledge of context that comes with that service. Amazon cannot do context. Big box stores do context poorly. Shop small and shop local are only meaningful if you are also better.

Faster is faster fulfillment, which will eventually be a losing proposition against Amazon, but faster service, which Amazon simply cannot do in the near future. Faster answers, faster help, faster guidance.

How do you build a brand? Pick the pillar you deliver on and serve up marketing that doubles down on that pillar. Better service? Educate people for free on their top problems. Faster service? Leapfrog the big box stores and figure out how to do apps and bots better.
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In today’s episode Eva asks How can local reseller market effectively against entrenched brands and big box stores really good question a local reseller like plumbing supply store, a home decor, electronics, consumer electronic stores, appliance show rooms, all these fit in the categories of value added resellers. Now the the key for the marketing is that first phrase value added because a reseller is by default going to be more expensive than a big box retail store or everyone’s you know, ubiquitous Amazon presence, you’re always going to get beaten on price as a reseller unless you want no margins. So the key is how what the value is that a reseller delivers and how it communicates that value? consumers want the three things right, same thing

things they’ve wanted for centuries or millennia better, faster. Cheaper.

Value Added resellers cannot for the most part beat cheaper. So that leaves you better and faster. So your strategy for marketing your brand is to build a crazy strong brand on your value, which by definition is either going to be better or faster. So what constitutes better, what constitutes better for a reseller? Well, resellers are known primarily for their service. So what service do you provide that is better than what the competitors can provide? A big part of that is based on context. So a professional salesperson who knows the customer who knows what the customer wants, it has the opportunity to have meaningful conversations with the customer can build better concept someone may come in for a refrigerator but what they’re actually asking about is redoing the look of their kitchen right so the the big box stores

sees refrigerators being browsed. Amazon’s refrigerators being browsed on their site, but the the human salesperson who’s having the conversation with the customer can dig in and figure out what the actual goal is. And therefore, in theory should be able to provide better recommendations to the customer. Because they figured out what the customers overarching goal is. So that’s better service through context.

Other ways that virus can can focus in on that service is is in the better services post purchase.

Amazon will eventually beat everyone on fulfillment right on on on just getting stuff to you. But the process of packaging things up and mailing them back

and waiting for refunds and stuff is still not optimal. I’m sure they’re working on it, but it is still not optimal compared to

a reseller being able to just if they’re especially if they’re local.

In the market and pop buy in to see what’s going on with with the thing that you bought so it is that enhanced responsive high quality service that can also be part of the brand for faster faster fulfillment will eventually be a losing proposition against Amazon or whatever other may you know mega consumer company takes over but faster service Amazon still has not cracked and probably won’t in the near future because of the mechanism of

service fulfillment mailing things back takes time

know getting you get your refund as soon as Amazon has scam at the packages back in service but it’s still one those I got a package that thing up print out the thing and then you know wait for for the delivery service to combine and pick it up

contrast that with what a value added reseller delivers, which should be

faster for fashion repairing of problems because you may not have to it may not be defective enough to warrant being mailed back just come over and fix the thing but

Faster also means faster answers faster help faster guidance, how can you get answers faster to the customer that are meaningful? Again, you can talk with a chat bot or you can talk with the lowest paid person on the floor at a big box store and get on satisfactory answers.

You can talk to an expert at a reseller and get an actually helpful answer. When when I bought the solar thing from my from my house the we bought from the most reputable company in the industry and their service is white glove service. They were significantly more expensive than their competitors. But the service side is the reason we made the purchase because we get faster answers to get better answers.

And so we bought from that company instead. So when it comes to building and marketing your brand within that local market, pick the pillar that you deliver on and serve up marketing that that doubles down on that pillar that emphasizes that pillar.

You claim a better service, you better be educating people like crazy for free on their top problems doing things like YouTube videos, ad nauseum Instagram Stories like hey, here’s how you fix this. Here’s what to look for in this. Here’s how to know whether a faucet will scratch easily. Here’s to

here’s how to clean dog hair out of your refrigerators, events, all these things. And a big part is educating people on the problems that they’re likely to have before they have those problems. Because that tells the customer that you understand their context, you know what’s going to happen because you have the years of experience that a big box store is not likely to have when you’re talking about faster service. The Amazon of course has all sorts of AI behind that so you’re not going to beat Amazon on on faster and that fun but the big box stores and doing stuff like apps and and bots and stuff. There are opportunities to improve upon

Those things and do a better job but also as long as you can scale it properly there is a substantial part of the population that would feel better just talking to somebody especially with these lovely mobile devices being able to FaceTime or video chat with a customer and say oh yeah you’re you’re if your faucets leaking, or whatever it is turned into your camera and now let’s take a look and being able to immediately without leaving your shop, look at what’s going on and go oh, it’s probably this like your refrigerators making a funny noise Okay, what’s point your phone at got it and documenting and showing that showing how you do that? Because that instead of creating marketing, which honestly is probably going to come out very self serving if you document with permission the service that you provide, you will show people by example exactly what you do and convince them that okay, this is a level of service I don’t get

From the big box store, well, this is level of service that I don’t get when I’m clicking around on on Amazon’s website. And so that documentation of what you do, and then the sharing of it ad nauseum. You cannot create enough content that shows off with real customers how your service works, you cannot create enough content that is helpful educational that solves people’s problems. You could publish 100 Pinterest pins a day you could publish a 500 Instagram videos a day and the still wouldn’t be enough to to answer every customers questions before they have them. You know your customer, you know your market. You’ve been in business for a number of years. You know what’s going to happen, double down on that experience and show it off not by telling people that you have it but by documenting that you’re doing the thing is it doesn’t require hiring a professional video crew you have a camera

There are free apps there is YouTube to post the videos to just go and do it. But do it a lot and plan to spend a lot of time on it. If you are spending less than an hour a day on documenting what it is you do, or answering customers questions, you’re not spending enough time on it from the perspective of marketing so that you can beat the big box store and the Amazons of the world. Now if you just want to do the bare minimum you can but you’re not going to beat the entrenched local Martin you got to show off through example just why you’re a better so great question. There’s a lot to this and there’s a lot to doing this. It is not inexpensive from a time perspective but it can be inexpensive from a a a machine or you’ve already bought the phone you’ve already got YouTube and stuff make use of it. So if you have follow up questions, leave them in the comments box please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube

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November 30, 2018
You Ask, I Answer: How to Measure Brand Equity?
Marcus asks, “How do you measure brand equity?”

Huge question, but the answers have been well known for decades.

One of the best summaries of brand equity measurement comes from the Spring 1996 California Management Review. In that review, Professor David Aaker cites the following 10 dimensions of brand equity measurement:
- Price premium
- Satisfaction/loyalty
- Perceived quality
- Brand leadership and innovation
- Perceived value
- Brand personality
- Organizational associations
- Brand awareness
- Market share
- Price and distribution indices
When this paper was written in 1996, based on a 1995 book, the Internet wasn’t really a thing yet. Professor Aaker cited the exceptional expense and difficulty of measuring these dimensions. Today, thanks to our hyper-connected world, you can measure far more of these without ever leaving your desk. For several of them, the gold standard remains market research by a highly-qualified market research firm like Edison Research. For others, digital marketing analytics and customer data will provide the needed insights. Blend them together and weight them appropriately for your organization and industry.

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On today’s you ask I answer. Marcus asks, How do you measure brand equity? That’s a big question.

The good news is that measuring brand equity is something that has been well known a number of really good answers on this. For decades, consulting firms have had their own proprietary blend of measures. One of the best summaries I think of measuring brand equity comes from a an issue of the California Management Review. This is the spring 1996 issue. Professor David Acker cites the following 10 dimensions as good ways to measure brand equity one price premium satisfaction, quality, innovation and leadership value personality Association awareness market share and

Distribution price indices so let’s dig into a few of these

price premium is one that he and a number of consulting firms sort of rely on as the the gold standard for measuring brand equity, which is how much more of a premium does your brand command versus comparable alternatives.

For example, if you are looking at CRM software, how much cheaper does an alternative to Salesforce. com have to be in order for someone to say, Yep, I will choose that over over the reputation of Salesforce. com or how much more would you pay for a How much more do you pay for a soda that has a Coca Cola logo on it versus a generic so like, you know, the Rite Aid brand of soda, even though chemically they’re probably going to be fairly similar. What is the premium that that I think commands loyalty is obviously one that you can match.

Your

repeat business, how much people out will come back and buy from you

repeat customers things like that. And recommendation How much will people talk about your brand in a positive way and you can measure that

any number of ways. But your CRM is going to be a huge source of that data. price premium data. By the way, we can come from depending on where you sell on how you sell, that can come from market research, or it particularly on the b2c side you can use shopping API’s to pull pricing data across the internet whereas previously you would have had a massive in store surveys quality, how much do people perceive the brand as being higher quality than its competitors, that something that you would measure through surveying, brand innovation and leadership

is in a leading brand and again, that’s that

Serving unaided recall, if I were to ask you to name three coffee franchise, three coffee shop franchises, probably you’re going to names Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts and one other and who that is, we don’t know.

But almost certainly, Starbucks is going to be in one of the answers and and that’s that that kind of leadership again, serving perceived value do do people perceive that your brand is worth buying over competitors brand is it doesn’t provide good value for the money and that would be another

question you answer through serving

brand personality and reputation. Does the brand have a personality does is a brand aligned with the audience’s personality? You’d measure that through sentiment about the brand

organizational association is one we’re

the best.

brand itself has trust. So people say, I admire the company that makes this this product or service. So the if the brand is the iPhone, do people admire Apple as the organization and so there you’re measuring portfolio strength along with the overall corporate reputation strength. Again, that’s gonna be a lot of surveying, you’ll get some you can get some qualitative data through social media,

but you’re still probably going to need to do real market research to answer that question in a balanced way.

product differentiation is a part of that as well. Is this brand How does this brand differ from other brands?

Again, if you if you pick a

enterprise SAS Enterprise software appliance, how does this router differ from this router? is there is there a difference and if people can’t explain the difference than you have a brand strength problem a brand equity problems brand or

awareness, you know, name the brand’s this product less Have you heard of this brand? Do you know do have an opinion about this brand? That’s something that you can actually use search data for searching for if people are searching for anti virus software, what brand are they searching for? Or is there no brand? And it’s it’s a commodity in which case you have a brand equity problem

market share based on market. How much of the market does that brand have name a search engine?

Your first answer is probably not in the within the United States is probably not Baidu,

your first answer is probably Google Now go to China and very different answer them. First answer will be Baidu. But even there people have heard of Google even if they may not necessarily have access to it. So certainly market share market share based on revenue as well. How much of the the available dollars does that brand consumed?

And then price and distribution indices which are less relevant than the internet age. Because back in the in when this paper was written,

it was

functionally still not the internet era, even though the internet was starting to rise in popularity, but the percentage of stores a carrier brand or the percentage of people who have access to your brand. Well, now if you have a website, technically 90% of

the 45% of the planetary population technically has access to your brand. Now

that’s where again, search data would be very useful comparing search data and traffic data to see what percentage of traffic among your peer competitor set does your website get versus competing websites? What percentage of available engagements and social media does your brand get versus other brands? So there’s there are ways to do that with digital metrics. And that’s an important point when the paper was written. He was 19

95 the paper. The paper was 1996 Professor ackers book was 1995 and he cited that you know measuring these these different dimensions will be extremely expensive. Extremely difficult.

Today, that’s less true. It is a much different world. Now 25 years later, and measuring some of these particular digital metrics is a lot easier. Things like market share, things like price indices. Things like brand awareness are much easier to measure pricing premium through shopping API’s depending on your marketplace. That said, for a good number of days, particularly around quality leadership value perception personality, the gold standard remains market research conducted by a highly qualified market research firm. I personally like Edison research but there are a number of them out there

but you still need to do the research properly. just slapping up any old survey and Survey Monkey

is not going to give you reliable intelligent answers you need, you need professional help for that. For the other measures, digital marketing analytics and especially CRM data, customer data will provide you a good chunk of the needed insights. So ideally a blend all those together and wait them to come up with an index that’s appropriate for your organization in your industry. And if you don’t have access to the funding, you can still put together some of these metrics

through things like search data and traffic data and stuff from from reliable third party data sources and come up with a blended brand equity measurement that is directional. It may not, you may not be able to slap $1 value on it. But you can put a directional number saying we have more brand strength this quarter than we did last quarter. We have greater branded search awareness for the company and for the products we have greater traffic data, we have generally more sentiment or more positive sentiment on social media.

Yeah, then we did the previous quarter. But again, the the gold standard is still market research. So use that as much as you can. So great question. Marcus is a very big question. So this is a very short answer to a very what is going to be a very, very detailed process for you to go through. As always, if you have questions, please leave them in the comments. Please subscribe to the newsletter and the YouTube channel. We’ll talk to you soon. Take care

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Most Social Media Influencers Have No Influence
When we speak of influence, particularly in marketing, what are we talking about? Do we even know what influence is? If we don’t, then we’re chasing something we may not understand; in turn, we may be paying for results that make no sense or are ineffective.

What is influence?

Let’s say we have a prospective customer who doesn’t like our brand. Perhaps they had a bad experience with us, or perhaps they don’t like our marketing. What’s our business goal? To influence that customer to purchase from us again.

If we examine classical definitions of social influence, we find three general levels as defined by Dr. Herbert Kelman in 1958:
- Compliance: when someone changes their behavior (even if temporarily) but not their beliefs.
- Identification: when someone accepts new beliefs based on input from others, especially someone liked or respected.
- Internalization: when someone changes their beliefs and behaviors.
When we talk about influence as marketers, we’re often talking about very superficial influence, the influence that leads to compliance. For example, if a celebrity or a peer group convinces us to buy something or do something, they exert influence over us that leads to compliance. Compliance is what most marketers and sales professionals are chasing – can we get convince prospect to buy so that we make our numbers this quarter?

Compliance is a temporary behavior change – we hold our nose and buy from a brand because of a great sale or because we have few viable choices. If we had another choice, we would purchase from a competitor. The brand is a last choice.

The second level of influence is much stronger, where we accept different beliefs and inputs from others. This is far beyond “buy our crap”. Identification changes how we feel. Suppose we’ve had a bad experience with a brand, or been exposed to enough negative perceptions about a brand. We identify a certain set of criteria, characteristics of that brand.
- United breaks guitars (and Asian passengers’ faces).
- Chick-Fil-A is homophobic.
Changing a brand’s identity requires significant effort, to overcome what the brand used to stand for. As marketers, we must change the inputs to our audience on a sustained basis, such that the new inputs overwhelm past inputs.
- T-Mobile no longer has crap service and coverage everywhere. (it’s actually quite good, esp. in cities)
- Apple is a valuable, progressive company. (in 1997 it was on death’s door)
With enough positive inputs, our beliefs, our understanding of a brand’s identity changes. That said, our behavior might not change immediately, but our understanding of the identity is a bigger shift than mere compliance. When identity changes, a brand becomes a parity choice; for example, we consider Android and iOS peers and choose based on commodity factors, rather than buy anything but Apple. Most brands occupy this space, a neutral ground in which they compete on benefits and features.

The third level of influence is the most powerful of all: we internalize new beliefs. When our beliefs change about a brand – when we fully accept the brand’s new identity, then we can be convinced to permanently change our behaviors. We now actively seek out the brand and prefer it, even if some features and benefits are not optimal. We even evangelize on behalf of the brand, representing it positively to others, exerting the brand’s influence over us to others.

For example, Starbucks has a brand strength that permits it to sell coffee at significantly higher prices than peer competitors. For brand advocates, they’ve been influenced so much that they’ve internalized the brand.

Fans of sports franchises are the ultimate brand internalizers. They will literally tattoo the brand’s logo on their bodies. The brand’s identity becomes so internalized that their own identity merges with it. Try convincing a New England Patriots fan to be a Buffalo Bills fan or a Seattle Seahawks fan.

This is the height of influence, and the goal that marketers aspire to. How do we build influence such that people want to tattoo our logo on themselves?

Social Media Influence Isn’t (In Most Cases)

Understanding these levels of influence, we now see that the vast majority of what marketers call “influence” in social media is anything but. Instead, social media influence is really little more than advertising in its current state, which has separate goals. Advertising builds awareness and affinity, but is highly unlikely to change identity.

Social media influencers won’t change the beliefs of our audience or convince them to internalize a brand as part of their identity. What will? Our own actions and values. In the same way that no friend talking about us will change the interactions we have with a customer, no social media influencer is likely to change the interactions of a customer with a brand, no matter how many followers they have.

How do we use social media to create influence, then? We use social media as a communications channel to deepen relationships directly with our customers. If we have a great product or service, exemplary support and care, and a willingness to create positive interactions with our customers on every channel including social media, we will influence our audience to compliance, identification, and internalization.

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December 15, 2017

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